December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Why I dislike Java. (was Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats")
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"perry(a)piermont.com" 3-MAY-1996 16:49:35.61 >The users can't afford not to have the numbers they are watching not >in front of them, even for brief periods. Its a real problem. Hmm.... has anyone ever created a specialized computer (or computer running a specialized program) that would put multiple screens on the same screen, perhaps with some GUI manipulation capabilities? If they're trying to read Netscape material while watching the other numbers, they're then in the exact same situation from their viewpoint. >And yes, this isn't a joke. They all eat lunch on the trading floor so >they don't have to leave their desks. They race back and forth to the >bathroom. The environment is tough. I should have remembered this from reading Liar's Poker; thank you. (One wonders if any of them will start using catheters...) -Allen

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RE: Calling other code in Java applications and applets
by Blake Coverett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I don't have any hints, but I think people need to be aware up front > that calling native code from a Java applet disables > any security that might otherwise be enforced for the applet. This, of course, presumes that the native code in question is less robust/trust-worthy than that Java runtime and the browser. It's not obvious to me why this should be the case. regards, -Blake (who figures its all a reputation thing again)

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by Jordan Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From unicorn(a)schloss.li Fri May 3 23:23:21 1996 Accounting costs as a result of a deduction based, multi-tiered, progressive, and supplimented system of income taxation are silly. By the way, the IRS (in spite of it's shortcomings) is (by far) the most efficient tax collecting organization among the major economic powers. It costs roughly $0.50 per $100 collected. Canada is second at about $1, Germany (for instance) is at about $7, mostly because they don't have payroll deductions. /jordan

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Re: encrypted Unix backup software
by VaX#n8 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message <199605030425.XAA05924(a)primus.paranoia.com>, Bill Stewart writes: >>Although I could probably hack up "catblock" to do the job, and use >>a line of the form >>dump -0uBf ... | symmetric_cipher | catblock blockfactor > /dev/tape >Yup [agrees on cmdline] >You don't need to write "catblock", though - there's the "dd" command >designed for just such applications... >Newer versions may handle multiple tapes a bit better. Hmm, I've got this a few times from people and I just wanted to clear up a few points. 1) BSD dd doesn't treat EOT specially: /* ... If a partial write, and it's a character device, just warn. If a tape device, quit. ... */ GNU dd (from what I remember) doesn't, either. 2) "dd" will only work safely across all tape types and all size pipes using the degenerate form "dd ibs=1 obs=(your_bf_here) conv=sync ...". I'll hack up catblock today. Who says we don't code :)

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Re: Edited Edupage, 25 April 1996
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:55 PM 5/3/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"educom(a)elanor.oit.unc.edu" 25-APR-1996 21:40:28.52 > >>FCC BOOSTS PROSPECT FOR SUPERNETS >>The Federal Communications Commission may reserve a band of radio >>frequencies to allow free and unlicensed transmissions at 25 megabit speeds >>of large volumes of data within a group of buildings. These so-called >>"supernet" wireless services, which would operate at no more than one watt >>of power in order to avoid interfering with neighboring supernets, could >>then be connected by high-speed phone lines to the Internet, thus largely >>bypassing local phone companies to get Net access. (New York Times 25 Apr >>96 C1) > > If these are not covered by the regulations against encryption in >the use of packet radio, this would seem to be an opening for such. Indeed, >encryption of radio messages would appear to be rather critical for security. FAIK, the prohibition on encryption applies only to hams transmitting on amateur radio frequencies. It wouldn't cover this kind of thing. I agree that encryption is going to be vital in this case, say 1024-bit RSA or better. Thus encrypted, it would be even better if the there was also a law which prohibited _the government_ from picking up these transmissions or attempting to decrypt them. Another useful purpose of such a "supernet" would be alternative telephone system competition. At this data rate, we're talking about the equivalent of 500+ simultaneous phone call capacity. That's enough to serve perhaps 5000 homes or more. >>HARDWARE SOLUTION TO E-COMMERCE SECURITY >>VLSI Technology and Tandem Computer's Atalla are developing chip-level >>security products to protect electronic transactions over the Internet and >>intranets. The products will incorporate DES, RSA and other encryption >>technology, and the companies hope their joint venture will establish a >>hardware-based security standard for electronic commerce. (Information Week >>15 Apr 96 p34) Remember, however, that VLSI technology is the company that built Clipper... Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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URLs for Capabilities
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am preparing a talk for this morning at CP in PaloAlto. Here are some relavant URLs. http://www.agorics.com/agorics http://www.agorics.com/agorics/allkey.html http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~KeyKOS/

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by jordan＠Thinkbank.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From sandfort(a)crl.com Fri May 3 21:52:50 1996 At 11:31 AM 5/3/96 -0700, brerrabbit(a)alpha.c2.org wrote: >Do tell. How would someone, just for instance, who is considering >leaving a "permanent" job for the higher compensation available to >contractors and consultants be able to structure a business in such a >way as to benefit from these techniques? 2) Take a vacation to a tax haven you like because of what you've read about it. I'm confused as to how "merely" putting your after-tax (you *will* declare this consulting revenue on your Schedule C, won't you?) bucks in an offshore account will "save" you money. This only "works" if you are able to use what you've taken away to advantage; you may generate a tax "savings" on those gains. Oh, and it also only works if you are willing to expose yourself to being arrested at some point for tax evasion. This is silly; there are legitimate reasons for structuring business efforts in other tax juristictions. Avoiding income tax on your primary source income isn't one of them. My answer to the original question: save your $1k you'd send to Sandy for the "advice" (plus travel associated with finding your 'haven') and open a SEP. /jordan

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RE: Why I dislike Java. (was Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats")
by Pete Loshin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

E. Allen Smith wrote: > From: IN%"perry(a)piermont.com" 3-MAY-1996 16:49:35.61 > > >The users can't afford not to have the numbers they are watching not > >in front of them, even for brief periods. Its a real problem. > > Hmm.... has anyone ever created a specialized computer (or computer > running a specialized program) that would put multiple screens on the same > screen, perhaps with some GUI manipulation capabilities? If they're trying to > read Netscape material while watching the other numbers, they're then in the > exact same situation from their viewpoint. Actually, this is the kind of application that seems ideal for X-Windows. There are a lot more, but it has never really caught on in the PC world, which is a shame since it makes much more sense than many of the solutions people have come up with over the years. -Pete Loshin

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NOISE.SYS v0.5.5 (Beta)
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Latest NOISE.SYS (/dev/random for DOS) is available, with incomplete docs. Reply with a subject "send noise" (or you can wait a few days for it to appear on an ftp site). The file's about 80k, includes '386 assembler source. --- No-frills sig. Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: Calling other code in Java applications and applets
by minow＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Marianne Mueller (mrm(a)netcom.com) writes that > >people need to be aware up front >that calling native code from a Java applet disables >any security that might otherwise be enforced for the applet. > Would it be more accurate to state that native code called by a Java applet disables Java virtual machine security, but is still bound by security policies enforced by the operating system itself? It would be most unfortunate if a browser run by an unprivileged user could attain "root" privileges by running a Java applet that called an appropriate (or inappropriate) native method. Of course, on inherently unprotected systems (PC's), there is indeed no protection. Perhaps Java will cause vendors to improve overall operating system robustness. Martin Minow minow(a)apple.com

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Justice Department looking for ISP's
by nobody＠ee.siue.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: <casey(a)justice.usdoj.gov> >To: Firewalls(a)GreatCircle.COM >Subject: Firewalls-Digest V5 #289 >Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:03:09 -0400 (EDT) >Sender: firewalls-owner(a)GreatCircle.COM > >I am looking for a list of all the Internet >Service Providers world-wide. Can anyone point me >in the right direction? > >Thanks in advance, > >Mary L. Casey, Program Analyst >Information Management & > Security Staff >Information Resources Management >Justice Management Division >U.S. Dept of Justice

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Re: "Bit Tax" proposed by satan@hell.gov
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:53 PM 5/3/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 11:13 PM 5/3/96, Steve Reid wrote: > >>The problem with a tax on data is that it would be *extremely* unfair. > >Chill out, it's not a real proposal. I just read the first few pages of the url, and skimmed a few more, and it's obviously a pile of socialist, politically-correct, statist liberal claptrap. They're more interested in maintaining their little interdependant world than anything else. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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RE: Calling other code in Java applications and applets
by Blake Coverett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> For example one security restriction is that applets aren't allowed > to read files. If an applet calls a native method then that native > method can read any files it wants. I'm talking about the model, > not about the quality of implementation. I'm not saying it's > a bad or untrustworthy thing to do (call native methods), I just > thought it was worthwhile to point out that once you call a DLL > from an applet, you have effectively chosen to disable the application > level SecurityManager. It's your call as to whether this is a problem > or not. I was right in the first message... it is a reputation thing. We don't disagree on any of the fact here, just on their implications. I see this from the point of view of the author of these native methods, cypherpunk still do write code sometimes. From that point of view where is the difference between calling my native code methods and calling the java.awt.*, or netscape.* methods that are native code? Yes, either can do anything they want, irregardless of the SecurityManager. For J. Random User on the net, Sun/Netscape's reputations are fairly strong and mine is non-existent. For the corporate IS folks to whom I contract this situation is reversed. (Despite impressive IPOs I still get a lot of friction about 'programs downloaded from the net'.) -Blake

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Re: LACC: proposed anti-pseudospoofing law in Georgia
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:18 AM 5/4/96 -0500, you wrote: >Can you please post the text of the bill? It was posted to cyberia-l on April 19th, among other dates, by Mike Godwin, titled "Georgia's amazing new internet law". Use altavista to find it. It's probably on www.eff.org also. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: PICS & CyberAngels
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"declan+(a)CMU.EDU" "Declan B. McCullagh" 4-MAY-1996 12:28:04.26 >Indeed. Under SafeSurf, I've rated the fight-censorship mailing list >archive site as suitable for all ages, which I believe it is, though the >CyberAngels think otherwise. I wonder what will happen now? SafeSurf is >supposedly sending me "an end-user license agreement" to sign... I believe this is another case, like that of the SafeSurf dislike of the mention of illegal drugs in any but the standard PDFA (sp?) manner, in which the Guardian Angels' politics are coming through. They may claim to be anti-CDA, but given their harrassment of various sexually-oriented businesses ("cleaning up Times Square" et al) their real opinions seem to be showing through. They'd make themselves even more unpopular if they were honest about it, of course. I have no doubt that, if the CDA is upheld (God forbid), they'll be secretly reporting violations to the DOJ. They already appear to have a policy of reporting allegedly "obscene" material. -Allen P.S. Feel free, anyone, to forward this (and my other stuff on the CyberAngels) to them. I'd like to see their defense, unless they're going to admit they don't have any.

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Gemplus' Crypto Cards
by Ben 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyoneknow anything about the Gemplus Smart Card systems? Specifically: http://www.gemplus.com/gpr400.html They claim that they're secure and can do things like 40Mbits/second in a PCMCIA form factor for Digital signatures and other uses. Thanks! Ben.

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Re: the cost of untracability?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"frantz(a)netcom.com" 13-APR-1996 01:00:57.74 >At 7:42 PM 4/12/96 -0400, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >> Another method would be for ecash to have a label on it as to when >>the issuer would redeem it. Until then, if you want cash from it, find >>someone else to trade to. ... >And if you are using a "first to clear gets the money" system like >Digicash, the holders can race to see who gets the money. What I had in mind is that the bank would still process the ecash if you sent it to them - for an equal quantity of ecash with the same label. If you want to convert it into a normal bank account or other ecash, you have to send it to the bank at the time of labeling, or trade it to someone else. If you trade it to someone else, they will want to send it to the bank to change it for more ecash _before_ sending you your compensation. Admittedly, all this then gets into the standard digital receipt, etcetera problems. -Allen

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Re: A MODEST PROPOSAL (fwd)
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 13-APR-1996 02:38:40.77 >>From: "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu> >> In other words, majordomo is broken. I should have suspected as much, >No, it's not broken, it just interacts badly with anon.penet.fi. >Of the two of them, majordomo is doing the obvious unsurprising thing, >while anon.penet.fi needs a bit more complicated support because of >difficulties with its implication and the workarounds it uses. >Somebody did comment that they modified majordomo to handle this, >but presumably vanilla majordomo can at least pattern-match block an######, >and if it can't, you can always pre-process with egrep or sed. The reason I say majordomo is broken is that it shows up with the address of the original sender, not the address of the list, as the From address. Other mailing list software does not do this. -Allen

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Re: Kid Gloves or Megaphones
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"shamrock(a)netcom.com" 21-MAR-1996 21:29:06.87 >It is true that the issuer is unable to discover that double blinding is >being used. The real problem with the protocol is that it requires >payor/payee collusion, which may make it difficult to execute. Can the payee discover that the payor isn't colluding before the bank can figure out who the payee is? -Allen

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Re: [Political Rant] Was: examples of mandatory content rating?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"hal9001(a)panix.com" "Robert A. Rosenberg" 15-APR-1996 03:46:01.05 >At 18:52 4/14/96, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >>I'm not sure if the major use for ratings may not be searching for >>material that the raters don't like. I'd be interested in many things the >>fundys don't like, for instance. One could even do this via one of the >>"services" that mails out listings of places to be locked from kids - just >>sign up one of your anonymous employees, and get the data and put it on your >>anonymous web access site. Doing so - if you don't admit you've done it - may >>be cheaper than doing the research yourself. Of course, you'll need to check >>out each such site to make sure that it isn't a decoy that they've inserted. >When you do the checking, make sure it is from an IPN that does not point >back at you (or at least only points to a Server Supplied not a Dedicated >IPN). You might also want to watch out for "Canary Trap" Decoys (where each >list has an unique set of Decoys [or at least one unique Decoy] so they can >tell which copy was compromised). I'm assuming that the Decoy is a "valid" >[possibly virtual] domain address which is being logged. The way to get around the second problem is to sign up with such a "service" twice, then filter out anything not appearing on both. Since at least some of the parental censorship "services" have customization for the parent, doing more than one would also be a means to pick up more specific evaluations of the sites in question. -Allen

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Re: Smartcards are coming to the US
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"shamrock(a)netcom.com" 21-APR-1996 21:08:17.34 >At 15:15 4/21/96, Brad Dolan wrote: >>Saw a CNN story Friday about an interesting special debit card >>application in Mexico. They're being issued to poor Mexicans, who can >>use them to buy tortillas and a few other foodstuffs. The cards are tied to >>a behavior-control database and failure to send kids to school, get >>mandatory medical exams/treatments/vaccinations, etc. results in card >>deactivation. >My first response was: he is making this up. But it shoudn't come as a >surprise to any reader of this list. Expect to see more of it. Ever read _The Bell Curve_? -Allen

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17 Dec '03

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YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four 4 REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four 4 names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF- ADDRESSED, STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. In lieu of sending an self addressed, stamped envelope, you may simply include your email address if you wish to receive your report by email. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the report requested to the person you are ordering from. You will need ALL FOUR 4 REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with yours, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 to REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the required changes in the NAME list, save it as a text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever email program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk emailing and acquiring email lists. Step (4) Email a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, email to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get email addresses from companies on the Internet who specialize in email mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35.00. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four 4 REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER ________________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Fredric Olsson Lillgårda Hagestad 276 45 Löderup SWEDEN _______________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Johansen Inc. Björkängsvägen 26 504 78 Sandhult SWEDEN ________________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: A. Valdus Trappv 2 517 37 Bollebygd SWEDEN ________________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: MAS Enterprises 509 East Perry Street Savannah, Georgia 31401 ________________________________________________________ CONCLUSION I am enjoying my fortune that I made as I send out this program, hoping to give you a chance to make this kind of money. You too, will be making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that costs me pennies to produce and email. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. They are obtaining information that will not only help them with this business venture but others as well. They also are obtaining the rights to reproduce the reports. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four 4 FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost off about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luck! ------------------------------------Testimonials:-------------------------- --------- "I had received this program before. I threw it away, but later wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get a copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed another copy of the program. Eleven months passed, then it came. I DIDN'T throw this one away. I made $41,000 on the first try." Dawn W., Evansville, IN "My late father always told me, 'remember, Alan, there is no free lunch in life. You get out of life what you put into it.' Through trial and error and a somewhat slow frustrating start, I finally figured it out. The program works very well, I just had to find the right target group of people to email it to. So far this year, I have made over $63,000 using this program. I know my dad would have been very proud of me." Alan B., Philadelphia, PA "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this program. But conservative as I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was no way that I could not get enough orders to at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever surprised when I found my medium sized post office box crammed with orders! I will make more money this year than any ten years of my life before." Mary Riceland, Lansing, MI --------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four 4 REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new company. You can use your own name if you desire. 2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. You must remember, your name and address go next to REPORT #1 and the others all move down one, with the fourth one being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain as many email addresses as possible to send until you receive the information on mailing list companies in REPORT #3. (It is a good idea to purchase bulk email lists, which generally cost around $35.00 for 100,000 names. Or you can start out the way I did, simply mailing out a few hundred to acquaintances and people who post to newsgroups.) 5. Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you send, and the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy the four 4 REPORTS so you are able to sent them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! 8. Make certain the letter and reports are neat and legible. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- YOUR GUARANTEE The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this: you must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. This is a must!!! If you don't within two weeks, email out more programs until you do. Then a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2, if you don't, send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, (take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, because YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000. Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above GUARANTEES-ALL have reached their $50,000 goal. Also, remember, every time your name is moved down the list you are in front of a different REPORT, so you can keep track of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!! REMEMBER: "HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED NOT HOPE FOR ANYTHING." "INVEST A LITTLE TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY NOW OR SEARCH FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SVENSKAR, LÄS!!! Skicka 40 SKR (2x20) istället för 5dollarsedlar för enkelhetens skull. Vem vill gå och växla 10000 femdollar sedlar??? Glöm inte e-mail adressen i brevet med sedlarna så du får dina reports! Ha ett bra liv!

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Re: Bank transactions on Internet
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"watt(a)sware.com" "Charles Watt" 16-APR-1996 13:06:06.52 >First, the U.S. banking system is very nice to account holders. The banks, >rather than the customers, assume all risk associated with security problems >in telephone banking, ATMs, etc... Internet banking is no different, which >explains why so few banks have jumped onto the net with real transactions. >If an SFNB customer should lose any funds due to a security problem, SFNB >pays, not the customer. That would depend on whether the customer can prove a security problem, because otherwise you're going to get a lot of con artists making a lot of money off of you. >Second, in order to break the SSL-protected password of an SFNB account >holder, you need access to the encrypted data. This is not easy to obtain >over the Internet, and would generally require illegal activity in order >to gain control of a host within the Internet infrastructure or collusion >with the account holder. Should an attacker crack the key and obtain >the account number and password of an SFNB account holder, they are clearly >warned upon login that they are engaging in illegal activity. Once they One, ever heard of a packet sniffer? If the account holder is on an Intranet, then someone within it could easily get such information. Two, somehow I suspect that the penalties for computer breakins are significantly less than those for bank fraud/grand theft; they aren't going to matter if you're willing to take the risk. >have logged in, there is no way to transfer money out of the account >without leaving a target address and phone number for the recipient. >Furthermore, any payment to an individual or unknown entity would be >made in the form of a physical check that would have to be cashed at >a physical bank. The whole process is heavily audited with real-time >audit filtering and pattern matching capabilities -- SFNB is, afterall, >running on a military grade secure operating system (see SWP at >www.secureware.com) Any security system that is deployed should be >compared against the value you are trying to protect. It seems like a >pretty big risk to an attacker -- and I assure you SFNB will prosecute. Target address and phone number? Make fake ID, get yourself a PO box and a telephone forwarding/answering service (giving the PO box as the address), then target it there. Use the fake ID at a check-cashing place. You can make the fake ID in whatever name you want, which makes it easier. >Finally, I whole-heartedly agree that 40-bit encryption is far too weak >for many applications, and that the current export limitations are absurd. I'm glad you realize that. I've edited out what look to be improvements, which I hope for your stockholders' sake you've implemented. -Allen

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Yahoo Internet Life on E-Cash
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The latest issue of "Yahoo Internet Life" has a listing of e-cash sites. There are only five of them, but what do you expect... The sites are referenced and reviewed at: http://www.zdnet.com/yil/content/profit/shop/cash1.html --- | Remember: Life is not always champagne. Sometimes it is REAL pain. | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Money Laundering Conference with Government Types
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I thought people might find interesting the following conference that I located at http://www.oceanlaw.com/20/conf/ml.htm. Know thine enemy, and all that. It has a section on Digital Cash (note the title includes "Cyberpayments"). -Allen [IMAGE] _OCEANA PUBLICATIONS, INC._ _in cooperation with the_ _Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies_ _Centre for Government Responsibility, College of Law, University of Florida_ [IMAGE] [IMAGE] [IMAGE] Money Laundering, Cyberpayments, Forfeiture, The Global Mafias, Offshore Investments, Securities, Corporate Security and International Financial Crimes [IMAGE] _A Unique Opportunity For_ Bankers * Compliance Officers Investors * Public Officials Accountants * Money Transmitters International Bankers * Attorneys Law Enforcement Officials * Securities Brokers _CLE/CPE Credit_ An Invitation from Fletcher N. Baldwin, Jr., Professor of Law and Director of the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies, and Robert J. Munro, Program Coordinator and Co-Director of the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies. _It's not enough to BE clean -- You must also LOOK clean._ Money Laundering and Asset Forfeiture are critical consequences for the banks, attorneys, securities dealers and corporations, both domestic and international, who may be inadvertently in non-compliance. _Our program will give you:_ A clear understanding_ _of the _existing, new and pending initiatives_ against Money Laundering. The necessary skills to _build or objectively trouble-shoot your own compliance program_ by enhancing your knowledge of your customers. _The latest Money Laundering schemes and how they are created_ to circumvent regulatory and compliance initiatives -- which may put you and/or your clients at risk. The skills to _develop strategies which identify and secure your assets _ and presence in the global banking community. An understanding of the _complex and subtle variances which exist in different countries and regions_. __Full Access to the Experts!__ Our program has been designed to afford you interaction with our international faculty of experts, and to ensure you a full-range perspective on the latest issues surrounding Money Laundering, Asset Forfeiture and White Collar Crime. _Ask questions and probe the speakers further_ -- each panel will open up into a question and answer discussion -- learn from the leading decision makers! _Make sure that specific interests are addressed!_ Submit questions in advance to ensure coverage, your confidentiality is guaranteed. Join our _Open Forum_ discussions for a dynamic _exchange of ideas. _ Make sure your position is heard! MONEY LAUNDERING, CYBERPAYMENTS, FORFEITURE, THE GLOBAL MAFIAS, OFFSHORE INVESTMENTS, SECURITIES, CORPORATE SECURITY AND INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL CRIMES WEDNESDAY, MAY 15, 1996 6:00-8:00 PM _PRE-CONFERENCE REGISTRATION, MARRIOTT MARQUIS IN NEW YORK CITY, NY_ THURSDAY, MAY 16, 1996 7:30 AM _REGISTRATION AND CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST_ 8:15 _WELCOMING REMARKS AND INTRODUCTION_ Professor Fletcher N. Baldwin Robert M. Morgenthau The Hon. Jack B. Weinstein 8:35 _CYBERPAYMENTS, SMART CARDS, DIGITAL CASH, CYBERBANKING AND ECONOMIC CRIME_ _* The Electronic/Criminal Threat to Bankers, Business, and Securities Firms_ * INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES AND &QUOT;STING&QUOT; OPERATIONS * EMERGING PATTERNS OF MONEY LAUNDERING SPEAKERS: Dan Soto, Moderator Thomas Firnhaber Bob Kaimin Ezra C. Levine 9:30 _COFFEE BREAK_ 9:45 _THE GLOBAL MAFIAS, MONEY LAUNDERING AND POLITICAL CORRUPTION_ * STRATEGIC ALLIANCES BETWEEN THE MAFIAS * THE EASTERN EUROPE AND RUSSIAN MAFIAS * ASIAN ORGANIZED CRIME: THE TRIADS AND THE YAKUSA _*The Drug Cartels and Narco-States in Central and South America and Russia_ * THE DECLINE OF NATION-STATES * POLITICAL INTEGRITY _Speakers_: Dr. Barry A. K. Rider, Moderator Ronald K. Noble Professor Fletcher N. Baldwin, Jr. 10:45 _OFFSHORE DOMICILES AND TAX PLANNING_ * INTERNATIONAL AND ESTATE TAX PLANNING * ASSET PROTECTION PLANNING * COMPARISON OF OFFSHORE DOMICILES _ __Speaker:_ Walter H. Diamond David Neufeld 12:00 _LUNCHEON_ 1:30 _KEYNOTE SPEAKER: RAYMOND W. KELLY; FORMER NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER, AND PRESIDENT, INVESTIGATIVE GROUP INTERNATIONAL, NY (INVITED) _ 2:15 _WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A BSA AUDIT AND FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS: OPERATIONAL DEFENSES FOR BANKERS, TRANSMITTERS, AND BUSINESSES_ * KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER * THE NEW CURRENCY TRANSACTION REPORT * SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT * EXEMPTIONS REQUIREMENTS: MANDATORY OR DISCRETIONARY * BSA EXAMINATION MANUAL * CMP DELEGATED AUTHORITY * BSA EXAMINATIONS: TEST DRIVEN; PROCEDURES REVIEW * UPDATE ON WIRE TRANSFERS REGULATIONS * STATE OF NEW YORK REVIEW _ __Speakers:_ Susan Galli_, _Moderator Richard A. Small John Shockey 3:30 _COFFEE BREAK_ 3:45 _CORPORATE AND BANK SECURITY, INTELLIGENCE AND COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE _ _ __Speakers:_ Dr. Barry A. K. Rider, Moderator Michael F. Zeldin 4:30 _OPEN FORUM AND EXCHANGE OF IDEAS _ 5:15 _COCKTAIL RECEPTION (CASH BAR)_ FRIDAY, MAY 17, 1996 7:30 AM _CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST_ 8:00 _WORKSHOP FOR BANKERS AND MONEY TRANSMITTERS: REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, CTR FORM, CMIR FORM, FORM 8300, SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT, WIRE TRANSFERS_ SPEAKERS: Amy G. Rudnick Ezra C. Levine 8:45 _A REGULATOR'S ROLE IN SUPERVISION OF BANKS AGAINST MONEY LAUNDERING _ SPEAKER: William A. Ryback 9:30 _NEW YORK - ORGANIZED AND ECONOMIC CRIME_ SPEAKERS: Mary Jo White John Moscow James D. Herbert 10:30 _COFFEE BREAK_ 10:45 _SECURITIES FRAUD, MONEY LAUNDERING, INSIDER DEALING AND MARKET MANIPULATION_ _ __Speakers:_ William McLucas G. Philip Rutledge Dr. Barry A. K. Rider 10:45_ OPEN FORUM AND EXCHANGE OF IDEAS_ 12:00 _LUNCHEON_ 1:15 _KEYNOTE SPEAKER: STANLEY E. MORRIS, DIRECTOR, FINANCIAL CRIMES ENFORCEMENT NETWORK, U. S. TREASURY, WASHINGTON, DC_ 2:00_ STRATEGIES TO FIND AND RECOVER ASSETS WITH FOCUS ON INSURANCE AND BUSINESS FRAUD_ _ __Speaker:_ Dr. Barry A. K. Rider 2:45_ COFFEE BREAK_ 3:00_ BANK SECRECY ACT: 1996 UPDATE_ * 1995-1996 STATUTORY AND REGULATORY CHANGES * PROPOSED CHANGES IN 1996 _ __Speakers:_ Peter Djinis Dan Soto 3:30 _UPDATE ON FOREIGN BANKING ISSUES_ SPEAKER: William A. Ryback 4:00 _THE FAIRNESS OF CIVIL FORFEITURE AND DOUBLE JEOPARDY ISSUES: A REVIEW OF RECENT AND UPCOMING U.S. SUPREME COURT DECISIONS ON FORFEITURE AND MONEY LAUNDERING_ * DEGEN V. UNITED STATES, 95-173 (CERT. GRANTED, JAN. 12, 1996) * UNITED STATES V. URSERY, 95-345 (CERT. GRANTED, JAN. 12, 1996) _* United States v. $405,089.23/100, 95-346 (Cert. granted, Jan. 12, 1996)_ * BENNIS V. MICHIGAN, ARGUED NOVEMBER 29, 1995 * LIBRETTI V. UNITED STATES, 64 U.S.L.W. 4005 (NOV. 7, 1995) _ __Speaker:_ Professor Fletcher N. Baldwin, Jr. 4:30 _OPEN FORUM AND EXCHANGE OF IDEAS_ CLOSING REMARKS: PROFESSOR FLETCHER N. BALDWIN, JR. 5:15 _ADJOURNMENT_ DISTINGUISHED FACULTY _Professor Fletcher N. Baldwin, Jr._, Conference Chairperson, Professor of Law and Director of the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies, College of Law, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, Co-Author, Money Laundering, Asset Forfeiture and International Financial Crimes _Walter H. Diamond_, United Nations Tax Treaty and Free Trade Zone Advisor, Senior Vice- President, Offshore Institute, Editor, Economist, Author, International Tax Treaties of All Nations _Peter Djinis_, Director, Office of Regulatory and Enforcement, Law Enforcement, Under Secretary for Enforcement, Department of the Treasury, Washington, DC _Thomas Firnhaber_, Policy Advisor, Office of Financial Institutions Policy, FinCEN, U.S. Treasury, Washington, DC _Susan Galli_, Vice President, Citibank, N.A., New York, NY _James D. Herbert_, Chief, Organized Crime Strike Force Unit, U.S. Attorney's Office,Boston, MA _Bob Kaimin_, Senior Advisor, Federal Reserve System, Washington, DC _Raymond W. Kelly_, U.S. Treasury Under Secretary for Enforcement Nominee, Former New York City Police Commissioner, and President, Investigative Group International, New York, NY _Ezra C. Levine_, Attorney at Law, Howrey & Simon, Ad hoc Industry Group of Nonbank Money Transmitters, Washington, DC _William McLucas_, Director of Enforcement, Securities and Exchange Commission, Washington, DC _Robert M. Morgenthau_, District Attorney, New York, NY _Stanley Morris_, Director, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, U.S. Treasury, Washington, DC _John Moscow_, Assistant District Attorney, County of New York, NY _Dr. Robert J. Munro_, Conference Co-Chairman and Program Coordinator, Co-Director of the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies, College of Law, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, Co-Author, Money Laundering, Asset Forfeiture and International Financial Crimes _David Neufeld_, Attorney at Law, Hill Wallach, Princeton, NJ _Dr. Barry A. K. Rider_, Director, Institute of Advanced Legal Studies, University of London Fellow of Jesus College, Cambridge University, England _Amy G. Rudnick_, Of Counsel, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, Washington, DC _G. Philip Rutledge_, Deputy Chief Counsel, Pennsylvania Securities Commission, Philadelphia, PA _William A. Ryback_, Associate Director for International Supervision, Federal Reserve Board of Governors, Washington, DC _John Shockey_, Special Assistant, Enforcement and Compliance Division, U.S. Office of the Comptroller of Currency, Washington, DC _Richard A. Small_, Special Counsel, Division of Banking, Supervision and Regulation, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System, Washington, DC _Dan Soto_, Senior Special Examiner, Division of Banking, Supervision and Regulation, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System, Washington, DC _The Hon. Jack B. Weinstein_, Senior Federal Judge of the Southern District of New York, NY _Mary Jo White_, U.S. Attorney, Southern District of New York, NY _Michael F. Zeldin_, Managing Director and General Counsel, Decision Strategies, Washington, DC and Former Chief, Money Laundering Section, Department of Justice, Washington, DC CONFERENCE DETAILS _Marriott Marquis, New York, New York_ - A block of rooms has been reserved at a discounted nightly rate of $189. To register at the hotel please contact the reservations department at1-800-843-4898 (local number is 212-398-1900) or fax to 212-704-8969, and mention the group name: "Money Laundering/Oceana.". The New York Marriott Marquis is located at1535 Broadway, New York City, New York, 10036. _Travel Discounts (Hotel, Airfare)_ - For travel discount information contact Chappaqua Travel at 1-800-666-5161 or 914-238-5151 or fax to 914-238-5533. Please refer to the group name: "Money Laundering/Oceana." _Tax Deduction of Expenses_ - An income tax deduction may be allowed for expenses of education (including travel, meals & lodging) undertaken to maintain and improve professional skills (see Treasury Ref. 1-162-5; Coughlin v. Commissioner, 203 F. 2d 307). Co-sponsor of the Conference is the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies, Center for Government Responsibility, College of Law, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida. _Continuing Education Credit: _ __Attorneys, Accountants, Bankers, Fraud Investigators__ - Continuing Legal Education Credits where applicable, are available upon request. For specific information about CLE or other professional accreditation, contact Robert Munro, University of Florida at 904-392-0417,_ prior_ to the conference. _Cancellations Policy_ - Refunds for registrations cancelled up to ten working days before the Conference will be reduced by a non-refundable administration fee of $125. _Program Confirmation_ - Written confirmation of your registration will be sent to you upon receipt. Please bring it with you to the Conference as proof of registration. If you do not receive the confirmation notice prior to the Conference, please call Oceana at (914) 693-8100 at least 48 hours in advance to confirm that your registration was received. _Conference Course Materials _- Course materials, developed and prepared by the Conference Faculty Sponsors, are included with the price of registration. _Payment_ - Registration Fees are payable by CREDIT CARD (American Express/Mastercard/Visa), CHECK (Payable to Oceana Publications, Inc., payable in U.S. dollars and drawn on a bank physically located in the U.S.), or by WIRE TRANSFER_ _(add $25 to the registration fees for banking processing charges and make payment to Bank of New York, 138 Mamaroneck Ave., White Plains, NY 10601 USA; Account # 670-9198651; Bank of New York ABA # 021000018.) Registration fees do not include transportation or hotel accommodations. Conference fees do include scheduled breakfasts, coffee breaks and luncheons as well as course materials. DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY. REGISTER NOW -- SEATING IS LIMITED! CALL OCEANA'S INTERNATIONAL SEMINARS DIVISION _toll free at 1-800-831-0758 or 1-914-693-8100 (outside the U.S.) for more information._

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Tracking Internet Infrastructure
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu" 14-APR-1996 07:00:37.86 From: Phil Agre <pagre(a)weber.ucsd.edu> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, send an empty message to rre-help(a)weber.ucsd.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:35:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Cook <gcook(a)tigger.jvnc.net> Tracking Internet Infrastructure: A Handbook on Business, Technology & Structural Issues Reshaping the Landscape of the Commercial Internet An Anthology of Recent Articles from The COOK Report The Internet has undergone huge changes in the year since the NSFnet backbone service was turned off. It has become a much larger, more stratified, and more expensive entity within which to operate. Since last September we have published a series of articles examining these changes in depth. We have concluded that it might be useful to gather them together into a single volume which is titled Tracking Internet Infrastructure: an organized, indexed Handbook on Internet Infrastructure Issues. This Handbook covers the following critical range of issues: * interviews with key industry players about viable Internet business models, * the hierarchical organization of ISPs through CIDR and routing pressures, * to the viability of the NAPS; * to renumbering and ownership of IP addresses; * to strains on backbone routers and backbone network redesign with switched cores; * to industry views on quality of service issues; to issues of settlements and route charging; * to issues of bandwidth availability in network design; and to ATM as technology savior or dinosaur. The rest of this message contains: (1) Our introduction to the Handbook (2) The Handbook table of contents (3) Description of the Handbook's audience (4) Price and ordering information 1. Introduction A Summary of the Operational Environment Power Consolidates at the Top of a Hierarchical Internet Less than three years ago, at about one twentieth its current size, the topology of the Internet was relatively flat. Service providers could attach to each other via the NSFnet backbone or CIX router and, for the most part, they could consider themselves plugged directly into the Internet with no one up stream of them. This meant that no one was in a position to dictate to them a multiplicity of rules, regulations and costs as part of providing Internet service. One paid the leased line costs for one's own backbone and, in the case of research and education, was connected to the NSFnet backbone for free. The R&E networks paid ANS a transit fee for their commercial customers. If the service provider were commercial, it joined the Commercial Internet Exchange and interconnected at the CIX router for the princely sum of $45,000 a year ($10,000 membership fee, $5,000 port fee and about $20,000 for T-1 line to the CIX. Or one was a downstream customer of Sprint and relied on Sprint to deliver one's packets to the CIX router without having to pay the CIX membership fee. Over the period of about a year Sprint, by allowing ISPs to resell connectivity, and by giving all ISPs downstream of it connectivity to the rest of the Internet Universe, created a situation where customers of Sprint received most of the benefits given those ISPs that connected directly to the CIX router. Some ISPs were shocked in mid summer of 1994 when the CIX proposed that those packets of SprintUs resellers who didn't pay the CIX fee would be blocked. Since then, as the Internet has grown by more than an order of magnitude in size, the importance of the NSFnet and CIX interconnects has either disappeared or faded. A very hierarchical Internet has emerged. One can have several levels of upstream service providers. Such service provision ends at a traffic exchange point known either as a NAP or a MAE. Address space in the form of IP numbers is no longer handed out the interNIC to all ISPs. To get address space direct from the interNIC, you have to do one of two things: (1) show that you have no one up stream. The only way to do that is to directly connect to a NAP or MAE and preferably to more than one. This level of the hierarchy is reached by perhaps 40 of about 2,400 ISPs nation wide. Or (2) an ISP can multi-home (take a connection from two different backbone providers). Perhaps four to five hundred ISPs are multi-homed. But even a multi-homed ISP is unlikely to get interNIC address space, unless it can demonstrate a rapid rate of growth. Connecting at a NAP or MAE, in an effort to put one's own operating environment under one's direct control, is very expensive. Unlike the $45,000 CIX fee the minimum annual cost is $100,000 and up. Once there, providers have to pay additional sums of money to those still higher in the hierarchy to see that their packets are delivered. These sums of money are known as transit fees. Multi-homing is obviously much less expensive. But even at traffic exchange points (NAPs or MAEs) there are additional hierarchies. Some find others who will peer with them. That is to say, they will engage in cost-free transit for a certain percentage of those attached. Those at the peak of the hierarchy are the six service providers who are believed to engage in cost free peering and transit with each other - MCI, SPRINT, UUNET, ANS, PSI and AGIS. These six operate the default free core of the American Internet. Exchange of routing information among them is supposed to be complete, so that none need say: if your routers don't have address XYZ, send packets by default to the next large central player, in the hope that his routers will know. Virtually everyone else is, in one sense or another, a customer of these top six. BBN is a special case. MCI carries all of BBN's routes. Consequently in this sense BBN which is as large as UUNET and certainly much larger than AGIS, is a customer of MCI. We expect this to change by year's end when AT&T fully deploys the network for its partnership with BBN. [Editor's Note: when we fact checked this assertion with sources at BBN we were told that BBN is putting its own national T-3 backbone in place, that significant parts are now operational, that it is at MAE East, MAE West and the Sprint NAP, that it peers with PSI, UUNET, ANS and others, and that its transit relationship with MCI is to reach MCI customers and any Internet sites not directly reachable via its peers.] Those who are able to buy transit at a NAP gain by this action gain the ability to ensure it to their downstream (ISP) customers. In other words transit rights are generally resellable. In this sense, those who purchase transit at the NAPs or MAEs are as fully connected to the core Internet as the big six - with one critical exception. They are renting their core connectivity for a hefty monthly price and without the protection of a long term lease. Readers however should avoid generalizations. Transit agreements are very private, never talked about openly and vary widely on a case-by-case basis. IP Numbers and Other Indicators of Hierarchy Another way of describing the top of the hierarchy is to point out that all six get their IP numbers directly from the interNIC and hand out numbers lower on down in the IP hierarchy to those connected to them. But this hierarchy is not uniformly rigid. The rule of thumb of your upstream provider as a source of IP numbers has some notable exceptions. For example: of the remaining approximately 35 providers which are directly connected to one or more of the major NAPs or MAEs, most get some of their IP numbers direct from the interNIC while others are derived from being attached at some point or in some way to one or more of the central seven. Finally, as we indicated above, the several hundred ISPs who are multi-homed also get their numbers from the interNIC, as may ISPs who can demonstrate extremely rapid downstream growth. An ISP without IP addresses is worthless, since the only thing making it possible to connect an individual to the Internet is the IP number that tells others how to find him. The hierarchy of the Internet is now such that about 80% of service providers must get their addresses directly from their backbone vendors who are often also their competitors. These address blocks are referred to as CIDR blocks. We have recently written extensively about them. Until the fall of 1995 large ISPs were able to connect to one or two NAPs and sometimes negotiate cost free peering. As an option they could then buy transit to the other five from one of the big six. During the past 90 days this has changed. Reports reaching us indicate that cost free peering is available only to those connecting at T-3 speed to three or more NAPS a task that will cost an ISP well over $300,000 a year. But even those who do this will find that there is nothing that will force everyone at each NAP to which they connect to peer with them. If one or more of the majors refuses to peer with a newcomer, that newcomer will have to buy transit to that major from one of those with which it peers or be in the awkward position of being unable to reach a significant part of the Internet. For most of 1995 an ISP connecting to a NAP could by transit for $5 to 15 thousand dollars a month from one of the seven. But reports reaching us now indicate that the six have effectively eliminated the purchase of transit from them as an option for domestic ISPs. These developments effectively shut off connection to a major NAP as a means for an ISP to operate from the top of the Internet hierarchy. The only ISPs that may even attempt to do so now are those with upwards of $500,000 a year to spend on the adventure. In the meantime the NAPs themselves are developing a hierarchy. MAEs either are opening or have opened in Los Angeles, Texas, Chicago and New York. Without the presence of at least the big six at these NAPs, all they are good for is exchanging local traffic among local ISPs and keeping loads on long haul backbones down. The Issue of IP Portability When a customer changes phone service from AT&T to MCI, or visa versa, that customer does not have to change phone numbers. Although the portability of IP address assignments from CIDR blocks has been discouraged it has never been prohibited. But last month a new internet draft (draft-ietf-cidrd-addr-ownership-07.txt) by Yakov Rekhter and Tony Li of Cisco was published. This draft created much debate in mid February when it was put forth by the CIDRD Working Group for elevation to best current practice. Such elevation would put IETF approval behind the practice of a service provider insisting on the return of address space when a customer left. If such a customer were to go to a different service provider for a new connection, every one attached to that customer's network would be forced to renumber their own networks. For a network of any size renumbering would be expensive and, if that network were involved in anything approaching a mission critical application, would become unthinkable. This would very likely mean that any customers buying leased lines to connect a network larger than a few dozen hosts in size will find themselves well-advised to purchase only from an ISP directly attached to one or more of the MAEs/NAPs -- and, therefore, in direct control of its address space. Furthermore, the safest and most conservative action with be to connect to the six providers who are part of the default free backbone. Certainly we suspect that the auto industry would tell its suppliers not to connect outside the direct NAP connected top tier. While there are technical reasons for this policy (fear of the collapse of internet routing if it is not carried out), it is ironic that such policy would greatly accelerate the Internet's stratification into a business service and a consumer service, for those who are there to explore, just for the fun of it. There is also an anti-competitive aspect to implementing such policy, in that large organization customers, which embed non-transferable IP addresses into their network hosts are really locking themselves to a single provider. Should a provider's service becomes "less than optimal," we are sure that providers are aware that the cost associated with renumbering in order to change vendors, limits their customer's options. While network address translation devices (NATs) do exist and will give some customers an alternative, they are by no means regarded as a perfect answer to these difficult problems. It is beginning to appear that, the more the Internet increases in size, the faster that power flows upwards into the hands of a few who, since they are both operators and rule makers for the commercial Internet, would find themselves singled out for accusations of blatant conflict of interest in most other situations. Under these conditions where the fox is essentially in charge of the hen house. Given the nature of a large portion of the customer base (ie large industry and educational networks), we wonder how long customers will suffer these burdens without demanding regulatory relief. 2. Contents: Tracking Internet Infrastructure: Editor's Introduction A Summary of the Operational Environment p. 1 Part One: Internet Business Models Some Large Providers Seek Forum to Push for Internet Service Model Change (Sept. 95) p. 8 Interview with Vint Cerf: Discussion Needed of Benefits Derived from Backbone Resources (Sept.95) p. 12 PSI Satisfied with Cooperative Best Effort Internet Business Model Interview with Bill Schrader(Oct. 95) p. 17 Thoughts on Internet Business Models by Sean Doran (Oct. 95) p. 20 Zero Sum Internet Business Models Vie with Internet Cooperative Culture (Oct. 95) p. 24 Routing Arbiter & Charging for Routing Announcements: Potential Operational and Financial Impacts Assessed (Jan. 96) p. 33 Part Two: Internet Architecture Change & Network Stratification Evolution in CIDR Rules In 1995 Makes Most IP Numbers non Transportable (Sept. 95) p. 43 Constraints of Growth: Provider Based CIDR Likely to Impede Smaller Players Interview with Dave Crocker and Noel Chiappa (Nov. 95) p. 46 Pace of Internet Stratification Increases -- IETF Internet Draft Suggests That Customer Network Renumbering Be Accepted As "Best Current Practice" (Mar. 96) p. 54 Part Three: Backbone Routing Versus Switching Continued Exponential Growth Stresses Internet Backbone Routing Infrastructure (Dec. 95) p. 62 Part Four: Institutions - Sprint; IETF, ISOC, and the NAPs SprintLink Experiencing Employee Attrition - Executives Slow to Provide Staffing Resources Needed for Continued Major Growth (Sept. 95) p. 81 National Science Foundation Domain Name Charges Financial Implications for Network Solutions NSF Rationale Behind Actions Interview with Don Mitchell (Oct. 95) p. 85 Internet Society: Role of Charter Members a Contentious Issue (Nov. 95) p. 87 Transition Pains at the Internet Society (Feb. 96) p. 88 Interview with Paul Mockapetris Who Considers Future of IETF & Finds Software Patents a Growing Obstacle (Jan. 96) p. 89 Interview with Tony Rutkowski Who Finds Internet International Coordinating Group Desirable (Mar. 96) p. 93 No Room at Sprint's Pennsauken NAP (Jan. 96) p. 96 Part Five: Quality of Service Automotive Industry Will Seek Internet Service Provider Certification (Feb. 96) p. 102 Steve Wolff Sees Convergence Between Internet and Telephony (Feb. 96) p. 107 Part Six: ATM and the Technology of Bandwidth on Demand Can Bandwidth Supply Keep Pace With Demand? ATM to the Rescue? An Introduction to a Series of Articles on Role of ATM in the Internet (Mar. 96) p. 111 ATM: Grand Unifying Technology or Brain-Damaged Transport Product? (April 96) p. 114 Bandwidth & Resource Reservation as Factors in Ones Network Provisioning Philosophy -- Can Bandwidth Ever Be Too Cheap to Meter? (April 96) p. 117 Interview with Bellcore's Dave Sincoskie Who Discusses the Internet Future of ATM & Outlines BellcoreUs Interest in Building Network of Interconnected ATM NAPs (March 96) p. 120 InternetMCI Bets its Future on ATM Data Services Marketing & Data Services Engineering Vice Presidents Explain MCI Strategy. Interview with Stephen von Rump and Steve Tabaska (April 96) p. 124 Interview with BBN's John Curran: Has the Internet Derailed ATM? (May 96) p. 132 Index p. 140 3. The Audience for the Handbook Within the national Internet service provider community, Tracking Internet Infrastructure is intended to educate strategists with the complexities facing their engineering and operations staff. Among smaller ISPs it should serve as a tool to bring owner-operators, who are busy 18 hours a day ordering lines, installing them and servicing their customers, up to speed on the changes going on in the environment in which they must operate. LECs and other phone companies will find it useful. Finally familiarity with the issues discussed within the Handbook will provide corporate MIS people with a valuable knowledge base from which to negotiate with their present or future internet service providers. However, since these infrastructure issues are also critical to the continued growth and success of the industry, this Handbook is expected to be a tool for use by those in the banking and investment community. If those in the financial community understand the changing technical and power relationships in the industry, they will be able to improve the quality of their investment decision making. It should also be useful to corporate strategic planners who will be advising their companies' decision making in vertical industry applications. 4. This handbook may be purchased in several ways: A. Single Copy GBC Bound, double sided xeroxed. $275.00 B. Site license: Set of single sided original 600 dpi laser written pages suitable for purchasing organization to reproduce as many copies as it wishes for its employees only. $750 C. A current subscriber without a site license may upgrade to a site license and pay an additional price of $275 to receive the report with full site license privileges. D. A current subscriber with a $650 site license or higher may purchase the report with full site license privileges for $275. 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Re: Why I dislike Java. (was Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats")
by Victor Boyko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>>>> "Allen" == "E ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu> writes: Allen> Why bother, if they don't have any critical stuff on Allen> them? But you certainly would not want the Java machines to be behind the same firewall as the non-Java ones, since then the firewall would be useless (see http://www.cs.princeton.edu/sip/pub/secure96.html) And you would probably want to have a second firewall anyway, since the machine running Netscape can contain confidential information downloaded from the net. Also, if Netscape is used to access password protected (or SSL encrypted) documents/forms, an attacker with access to the non-secure machine can get many kinds of secret information, including passwords and credit card numbers. -Victor -- Victor Boyko <vboykod(a)is-2.nyu.edu> http://galt.cs.nyu.edu/students/vb1890/ To get my PGP key, finger or send e-mail with subject "send pgp key".

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Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:24 PM 5/4/96, Black Unicorn wrote: >An organization that is efficent at enforcing a immensely complex set of >regulations incomprehensible to joe sixpack is not a good thing. As if anybody didn't already know, the tax code is incomprehensible to more than just "Joe Sixpack." I find it imcomprehensible, with "carryback callback offshore allowances" and "alternative minimum taxes" and all that garbage. I started using "Macintax" many years ago, then decided to wing it manually for many years, but have recently gone back to the Intuit product (called Macintax, but a cross with TurboTax). I answer a bunch of questions it asks me, making educated guesses where I don't understand something, and then I do the process a _second_ time, usually with different results. I use the lower tax bill of the two and send that instance in. Sometimes the IRS and its partners (the Franchise Tax Board, where California taxes are approaching what Federal rates for most people were a scant decade or two ago) tells me I underpaid and must send in additional taxes, penalties, interest charges, etc. (They won't prosecute for such minor things, so long as the money is paid and there was no gross hiding of income.) I am gradually losing all track of what is going on, and I suspect I'm not alone (my friends who use tax preparers, human ones, report the same situation). It seems to me that Jordan was referring to the compliance rate and the cost of the overhead, not considering the overall tax burden. (Italy is a fascinating example. The country appears to be moderately poor, based on tax receipts, but spending is quite high...it is clear that a large fraction of Italy's overall income is unreported.) Not wanting to join in this bashing of taxes--my views are clear, as evidenced in the title of this thread--but I have to point out that I paid approximately 60% of everything I made last year to the tax collectors! This counts the Federal income tax (about 32%), the California income tax (about 11%), the "self-employment tax" (FICA) for some consulting I did (15%), property tax on my old residence ($2200), property tax on my new residence ($4200), sales tax on purchases (8.25%), gasoline taxes (about 30-40 cents per gallon), a special tax on my Ford Explorer ($300), and probably some miscellaneous other taxes I have neglected. And of course the corporations that pay me dividends and whose stock price shows gains have _already_ paid roughly 45% or so in taxes, depending on how clever they were at allocating costs to minimize taxes. This is the famous "double taxation" of corporate earnings one hears about. Intel, for example, pays 45% of its considerable income in taxes, sends some of the remaining profits to me in the form of capital gains and dividends, and I then pay another 40% or so in income taxes on this share. The math is pretty simple...there ain't much left over. (The much-derided Laffer Curve is actually quite important here...when overall tax rates get high enough, people choose to do less work. Some of us even retire early.) Considering that a growing fraction of the population is not working at all, and is living on "entitlements" that they essentially get from me, and considering that the American Revolution was at least partly in response to the perception that taxes collected by King George were a bit too high (at a _tiny fraction_ of the amount I cited above), the resentment many of us feel is understandable. One area where I mostly agree with Jordan Hayes and disagree with Sandy, Uni, and Duncan, is that I don't think it's as easy as they sometimes claim it is to avoid taxes by the offshore stratagems they espouse. Believe me, I looked into this a while back (it is never illegal to investigate ways to minimize tax burdens), and even considered moving out of the U.S. to a tax haven of some sort. It turns out, as it does for many people I know, that my assets are relatively traceable. Salaries and even consulting fees are reported assiduously. Stocks can certainly be moved offshore, but the IRS obviously knows where they are (the institutions that keep records of stock ownership will tell them, for one thing...this may take a few years for the records to catch up, but they ultimately will). Certainly I could liquidate one form of my assets (stocks, real estate, etc.) and simply move the money out of the country. Tax evasion is always an option. But the price paid if one gets caught tends to be rather high. (Despite what you hear anecdotally about the IRS "settling" for pennies on the dollar.) Call me a skeptic. I will do my best not to be drawn into a debate that has been held here several times before. If Sandy, Duncan, etc., believe it is so easy to avoid taxes--on the resources we are talking about, not sheltering small amounts--or if they claim that I am obviously not following their advice, I'll let them make these claims without any attempt to rebut them. I've been there and done that before. I have no doubt that "tax planning" works for some people, and I think certain people like Vince Cate may do well in places like Anguilla, essentially starting a business from scratch. I even have longterm hopes for tax havens, cyberspace tax havens, anonymous systems, etc. But this ain't happening soon. But I see no clear way that X shares of Apple, Y shares of Sun, Z shares of Intel, etc. can be converted into other forms without taxes being paid, or evaded. (Evaded, not avoided.) I recall Sandy claiming some scheme where I would use my shares as collateral and borrow tax-free against them. Sure, it's what I do everyday with my margin account. But to ultimately pay off a margin debt by selling assets involves taking capital gains (if there were any, of course--a safe bet in the last 10 years), and at this point the IRS and California Franchise Tax Board want their 40-45% cut. Not being prepared to risk imprisonment for tax evasion, and being desirous of living in the United States rather than on a coral atoll, I answer the questions that Macintax asks me, gulp when I see the final figure, and write out a check (which I then have to sell even more stock to cover...perpetuating the cycle). --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! 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Re: Money Laundering Conference with Government Types
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:26 PM 5/4/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > I thought people might find interesting the following conference >that I located at http://www.oceanlaw.com/20/conf/ml.htm. Know thine enemy, >and all that. It has a section on Digital Cash (note the title includes >"Cyberpayments"). > -Allen > > An Invitation from Fletcher N. Baldwin, Jr., Professor of Law and > Director of the Centre for International Financial Crimes Studies, and > Robert J. Munro, Program Coordinator and Co-Director of the Centre for > International Financial Crimes Studies. > > _It's not enough to BE clean -- You must also LOOK clean._ > > Money Laundering and Asset Forfeiture are critical consequences for > the banks, attorneys, securities dealers and corporations, both > domestic and international, who may be inadvertently in > non-compliance. _Our program will give you:_ I wonder how long it's going to take before these "money-launderers" learn that by taking, say, 10% of the amount of money they launder in one year, they can eliminate the people trying to stop them. Forever. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.comJim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:54 AM 5/4/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: > Actually, I disagree with Mr. Sandfort on this one. > > Taxation of International Income is a tremendously complicated field. > (You can get an LL.M. in international taxation alone for example). I do not believe the IRS particularly cares what all those tons of tax legislation books say, and I am sure they do not know. Unicorn seems to be thinking in terms of constructing magic pieces of paper that will protect you from the bad boys, whereas Sandy is thinking in terms of making sure the bad boys cannot find your money. While doubtless magic bits of paper are useful to some extent if you are a genuinely multinational corporation, if the bad boys see smaller fry carefully concocting magic paper they will say "ah, tax haven", jump on you like a ton of bricks, extort information from anyone in their jurisdiction as to where your money is (which is why Sandy recommends a lawyer who works OUTSIDE the jurisdiction) and confiscate all your assets and not give them back until you can prove you have paid taxes on everything you might possibly have earned and some things you could not possibly have earned. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Reputation Webs and Java/Applet Security
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:10 PM 5/4/96, Blake Coverett wrote: >I was right in the first message... it is a reputation thing. We don't >disagree on any of the fact here, just on their implications. > >I see this from the point of view of the author of these native methods, >cypherpunk still do write code sometimes. From that point of view >where is the difference between calling my native code methods and >calling the java.awt.*, or netscape.* methods that are native code? Yes, >either can do anything they want, irregardless of the SecurityManager. > >For J. Random User on the net, Sun/Netscape's reputations are >fairly strong and mine is non-existent. For the corporate IS folks to >whom I contract this situation is reversed. (Despite impressive IPOs >I still get a lot of friction about 'programs downloaded from the net'.) By the way, I think "reputation webs" may get one of their earliest uses in this situation, with applets or chunks of code being "vouched for" by testing or credentialling agencies, analogous to Good Housekeeping Seals and Underwriter's Laboratories. (This model applies to more than just Java applets, of course. To some extent, reviews of programs and testing of snippets of code has always involved this "reputation rating" process...I'm just suggesting it could be implemented in-line with the runtime environment....) While we often talk about the human example, where we want to do nifty things like rank and rate the postings of J. Random User by what others we trust (or don't trust) are saying, the fact is that most people are willing to see what J. Random User is writing and judge for themselves. Hence, reputation markets (what I'm calling "reputation webs," as with "webs of trust") have been slow to take off in human communication circles. (At least automated, that is.) For Java applets, once digital signatures are supported we have the possibility of automating the checking of who has said good things about the applets, who has said bad things, how much faith we place in these opinions, and so on. Almost a class hierarchy in itself (though mix-ins might be useful, as the hierarchy is not strictly single-inheritance, it seems). Thus, the "Wall Street Testing Agency," with various stringent policies about what applets can do and what they must not be allowed to do, may have ratings of applets, keeping even Perry happy. Someone at a Wall Street firm could then screen out applets based on these ratings. Others might have completely different criteria. (And the web could change dynamically, as the user's environment changed. For example, a PC used largely for games will likely have a different model of whom to trust than a workstation used for high finance. And one could imagine moving sensitive files to a removable disk, popping out this disk, and then altering the settings to reflect a lower perceived risk.) Virus checking is to some extent already in this model, with "well-regarded" virus checkers acting as a gatekeeper of sorts. One might even (hopefully!) be able to integrate this directly into one's programming environment. Maybe the "SecurityManager" class could be turned into a "ReputationManager" class, with today's "SecurityManager" being just one of many possible configurations (e.g., the one JavaSoft is recommending). And the NSA and NCSC might have their own "Orange Book" sorts of requirements. Let a thousand flowers bloom...but keep track of their reputations. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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PGP, Inc.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I've been missing some e-mail, for various reasons, including a 20 MB mailbomb from some German critic of my views, but I think I would've seen this discussed more than I have.) Phil Zimmermann is apparently forming a Bay Area company, to be known as PGP Inc., with venture funding from one of the Seybold clan, according to an article by Simson Garfinkel in today's SJMN. (Which says the announcement was actually made last Tuesday....) Jonathan Seybold, Dan Lynch (a founder of Cybercash), Tom Steding (ex-Novell) are some of the names involved. Initial products will include PGP and PGPfone. No mention of programmers, jobs available, etc., except that they "will begin hiring shortly." And the connection with ViaCrypt and RSADSI seems unclear to me. Anybody else have any more information? If this whole thing is a spoof, it made it into the SJMN. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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PGP and Pine?
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Want To Make Money On The Net But Dont Know How?
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17 Dec '03

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Want To Make Money On The Net But Dont Know How?
by 55632950＠compuserve.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: A MODEST PROPOSAL (fwd)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:05 PM 5/4/96 EDT, "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)mbcl.rutgers.edu> wrote: > The reason I say majordomo is broken is that it shows up > with the address of the original sender, not the address of the list, > as the From address. Other mailing list software does not do this. I think that's user-settable, but there is no ideal approach. Cypherpunks tried several different approaches to addresses, and settled on this one as causing the least overall problems. The big advantage is that replies go to the original sender by default rather than to the list (which reduces the amount of personal mail going to the list, winning both on noise-reduction and embarassment-reduction); the disadvantage is that bouncemail goes to the original sender, rather than the list or the list-manager (bouncemail to the sender is annoying, but minor; bouncemail to the list is extremely annoying, as well as potentially causing mail loops, which are an extreme lossage. Bouncemail to the list-manager is ideal (not that the list-manager usually reads it), but it's hard to get without reducing replies directly to originators, as well as increasing replies accidentally going to the list-manager. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: WWW proxies?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 AM 5/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >} Has anyone developed such a beast yet? > >I know of two anonymizing web proxies. See: >http://hplyot.obspm.fr:6661/ and: >http://anonymizer.cs.cmu.edu:8080/ anonymizer has moved to www.anonymizer.com:8080 (hosted on c2.org.) There's also the Great Web Canadianizer, if you don't mind reading pre-hosed web pages, eh? Anonymizer does a better job, fixing up things like REMOTE-HOST, REMOTE-ADDR and HTTP-COOKIE which pass some information about the originating system. HTTP-DONUT, eh? Also, Netscape 3.0 is a bit quieter than earlier versions. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 PM 5/4/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Not being prepared to risk imprisonment for tax evasion, and being desirous >of living in the United States rather than on a coral atoll, I answer the >questions that Macintax asks me, gulp when I see the final figure, and >write out a check (which I then have to sell even more stock to >cover...perpetuating the cycle). > >--Tim May The Transaction Records Clearinghouse has expanded their site on actual IRS criminal prosecutions into a neat table (for 1994) which shows: odds of referral (per million pop) 17 odds of conviction (per million pop) 8 odds of prison (per million pop) 4 # of referrals for prosecution 4,542 # convicted after prosecution 1,991 # sentenced to prison terms 957 population of federal district 260,340,990 http://www.trac.syr.edu/tracirs/analysis/IRS017tab.html For comparison, the annual risk of being murdered is about 80 per million (8 per 100,000). In addition, only 40% of the above refferals are for ordinary tax fraud and evasion. Sixty percent are for drug and money laundering kinds of offenses. Even though the population of those who regularly violate federal tax laws is smaller (20 million?) the records show that even for this population the odds of being convicted are approximately the odds of being nurdered. http://www.trac.syr.edu/tracirs/analysis/IRS019page.html Shows that the *median* prison sentence and *median* fine after conviction is Zero in both cases. DCF

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Web page for breaking commercial encryption?
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking for a web page that shows how to break the encryption in many commercial products. I have seen information on breaking a number of different products, but I can't find a web page that collects these methods into one place. Seems there should be such a page. Is there such a web page? If not, is anyone willing to start one and give me a URL? :-) Thanks, -- Vince PS This is just for a link in my web page, no I did not forget my lotus notes password or something. :-)

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17 Dec '03

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 17:17 5/4/96, Moltar Ramone wrote: [...] >> 6) DON'T talk to anyone else--especially in your home >> country--about what you have done, are doing or >> are planning to do. [...] >> 8) Send me $1000. If you follow my steps 1-7, you will >> save many times that amount. > >There's the rub... step 8 violates step 6. If following your directions >indicates a moral obligation to pay, doing so would violate your >directives and make one _not_ obligated to pay... :-) No contradiction here. Just make the payment to Sandy anonymously. Disclaimer: My opinions are my own, not those of my employer. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Kid Gloves or Megaphones
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:58 5/4/96, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"shamrock(a)netcom.com" 21-MAR-1996 21:29:06.87 > >>It is true that the issuer is unable to discover that double blinding is >>being used. The real problem with the protocol is that it requires >>payor/payee collusion, which may make it difficult to execute. > > Can the payee discover that the payor isn't colluding before the bank >can figure out who the payee is? Yes, since the payee determines the serial numbers of the coins during intitiation of the protocol. It is the payee that also assembles the final coins. If the serial numbers are a match and the signature of the bank verifies, then the protocol has been completed. Disclaimer: My opinions are my own, not those of my employer. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Web page for breaking commercial encryption?
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bokler's Guide to Cracker Software is pretty comprehensive: http://www.hiwaay.net/bokler/bsw_crak.html >I am looking for a web page that shows how to break the encryption in many >commercial products. I have seen information on breaking a number of >different products, but I can't find a web page that collects these methods >into one place. Seems there should be such a page. Is there such a web >page? If not, is anyone willing to start one and give me a URL? :-) > >Thanks, > > -- Vince

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:26 AM 5/5/96 -0400, Duncan Frissell wrote: >Even though the population of those who regularly violate federal tax laws >is smaller (20 million?) the records show that even for this population the >odds of being convicted are approximately the odds of being nurdered. Hmmmm. Now that's a crime I hadn't heard of. Tell me more! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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