December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

IP: ISPI Clips 6.16: Using Credit Reports Crooks Assume YourIdentity & Buy Luxury Cars
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 6.16: Using Credit Reports Crooks Assume Your Identity & Buy Luxury Cars Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:26:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> ISPI Clips 6.16: Using Credit Reports Crooks Assume Your Identity & Buy Luxury Cars News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Friday November 6, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: The Las Angeles Times, Friday, October 23, 1998 http://www.latimes.com Grand Theft Auto Enters the Computer Age http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/LIFE/AUTO/AUTONEWS/t000096175.html Crime: Hackers are using cyberspace to obtain credit information and purchase luxury vehicles under assumed identities. By SCOTT GLOVER, Times Staff Writer In a new twist on an old crime, computer-savvy thieves have begun hacking into credit files and fabricating drivers' licenses, then walking into car dealerships and buying luxury cars under assumed identities, authorities said. After putting about $10,000 down for a new $120,000 Mercedes-Benz, authorities say, the thief then drives off the lot, leaving behind a commission-happy salesperson. Within a week, they say, the car will most likely be in a container bound for resale on foreign shores. "The problem is growing on a monthly basis," said John Bryan, a Los Angeles County sheriff's captain who runs a regional anti-car-theft unit. Bryan estimated that members of his Taskforce for Regional Autotheft Prevention, or TRAP, arrested about 60 people in 1997 who were running such scams. One of last year's victims was Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke and her husband, William. In her case, Burke said a con artist took her name from the newspaper and paid a Georgia jeweler to run a credit check on her to obtain more information. She said the man then obtained a driver's license in William Burke's name and went on a spending spree. Using the Burkes' credit information, the man bought four Yamaha WaveRunner personal water vehicles and a BMW and tried to purchase a Mercedes-Benz and Ford Thunderbird. "We were getting bills in the mail every day," Burke said. "It was driving me crazy." She said the man was finally caught when he brought the BMW back to the dealership to have a trailer hitch installed so he could pull the WaveRunner behind the car. In another case last year, authorities said a man established a dummy real estate company to obtain personal credit histories, then used the information to make more than $1 million in fraudulent purchases, including several cars. Bryan said another scam involved fraudulent applications for car purchases at a San Gabriel Valley dealership. In that case, investigators seized eight cars and believe as many as 40 more were purchased and illegally sold. The thieves generally don't shop for bargains either, Bryan said. "They go for Mercedeses, BMWs, Lexuses, you name it." Bryan said the thieves are typically well-dressed--sometimes even in suits--and have a calm demeanor as they "shop" for a car. "They walk in there looking like they can afford it," he said. "They know what they're doing." Bryan said the average price of a stolen car is about $60,000, and that most of those who have been arrested are suspected of stealing numerous cars. The thieves usually make tens of thousands of dollars' profit on a single sale. Because cases are time-consuming and difficult to prove, Bryan said, an offender is often charged with only one theft. The crimes could result in several charges, including grand theft auto and credit card fraud, punishable by a minimum of three years in prison, according to a spokesman for the district attorney's office. Popular markets for the stolen vehicles include China, numerous republics of the former Soviet Union and the United Arab Emirates, police said. People who have had their identities stolen and used to purchase the cars are not liable, Bryan said. Burke said, even though she was in a position to put pressure on authorities to solve the case, she spent months trying to clean up her credit. "It was a nightmare," she said. "And it could happen to anybody." Copyright 1998 Los Angeles Times. --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). To receive "ISPI Clips" on a regular bases (up to 3 - 8 clips per day) send the following message "Please enter [Your Name] into the ISPI Clips list: [Your e-mail address]" to: ISPIClips(a)ama-gi.com . The Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) is a small contributor-funded organization based in Victoria, British Columbia (Canada). ISPI operates on a not-for-profit basis, accepts no government funding and takes a global perspective. ISPI's mandate is to conduct & promote interdisciplinary research into electronic, personal and financial privacy with a view toward helping ordinary people understand the degree of privacy they have with respect to government, industry and each other and to likewise inform them about techniques to enhance their privacy. But, none of this can be accomplished without your kind and generous financial support. If you are concerned about the erosion of your privacy in general, won't you please help us continue this important work by becoming an "ISPI Supporter" or by taking out an institute Membership? We gratefully accept all contributions: Less than $60 ISPI Supporter $60 - $99 Primary ISPI Membership (1 year) $100 - $300 Senior ISPI Membership (2 years) More than $300 Executive Council Membership (life) Your ISPI "membership" contribution entitles you to receive "The ISPI Privacy Reporter" (our bi-monthly 12 page hard-copy newsletter in multi-contributor format) for the duration of your membership. For a contribution form with postal instructions please send the following message "ISPI Contribution Form" to ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com . We maintain a strict privacy policy. Any information you divulge to ISPI is kept in strict confidence. It will not be sold, lent or given away to any third party. **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **************************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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ISPs now responsible for Pirated Material
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Authentication-Warning: lpma.la-ma.org: majordom set sender to owner-general(a)la-ma.org using -f X-Sender: dkrick(a)pobox3.bbn.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 07:29:38 -0500 To: general(a)la-ma.org From: Doug Krick <dkrick(a)bbnplanet.com> Subject: ISPs now responsible for Pirated Material Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-general(a)la-ma.org Precedence: bulk http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28357,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh Summary: IF a local ISP doesn't register with the goverment, per a new law Clinton signed this week, the ISP can be held legally responsible for any pirated material that may be on their site. Doug --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: RE: Digicash bankruptcy
by Kawika Daguio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Much of Digicash's problems came about as a result of its inventors worldview and dreams. These primary problems were caused by the same factors that created the impetus for their development. The business constraints that David Chaum attempted to impose on everyone interested in his technology included social theory driven restrictions. He really wanted to change not only how future payment systems worked but also wanted to change how current payment mechanisms and general social interaction and commerce worked in the future. I share some of his concerns, but do not find his solution satisfactory. I also remain unconvinced that point to point protection of sensitive information including credit cards numbers solves anything. Infosec as practiced in the WebWorld leaves much to be desired. Point to point encryption + weak and misleading naming (domain names) + near meaningless authentication + untrustworthy practices = slightly worse to slightly better than nothing at all. I am extremely patient (5-50 year time horizon) and remain hopeful that time, money, and proper attention by experienced risk and operations managers will resolve many of the weaknesses with current infrastructure and business models. Kawika >>> "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> 11/05/98 09:07PM >>> Phil is right in much of what he says but in a couple of cases he is wrong. Regarding the 'vortex of buzz technologies', VRML, network computers and push are certainly not hot properties at the moment, neither is interactive TV - but the Web was designed as the antithesis of Interactive TV. The root failure of Interactive TV was the assumption that the world wanted to spend its time passively consuming the dross pumped out through a 1000 channel 120" TV which would dominate the home. I would also like to add Java onto the pile. Java today is simply what C++ should have been. It does not revolutionize the programming industry, it simply provides what some people think is an object oriented programming environment and removes some of the worst legacy clutter of C. Cryptographic payment systems are here - in the form of credit card transactions over SSL. The main problem with SET and its competitors is that SSL works a little too well. That is not to say that there is no future for SET. SSL and credit cards are unlikely to make the leap from the consumer market to the business to business market. SET provides an ideal platform to integrate the use of the credit card infrastructure for business payments. The other area where I would disagree is over protocols. HTTP is quite radically different to FTP in that it is a computer client to computer server protocol. The metaphor of FTP is rumaging through a filing cabinet. The HTTP and Web mechanism employs a locator. Admittedly there was nothing to stop a text mode Web being created in 1982 but nobody did so. What is true is that the time taken for Internet technologies to move to market is very slow. Much of the HTTP technology that just reached the market was proposed in '92 and '93. Finaly I have difficulty regarding Digicash as being all that socially responsible. Chaum's problems had a lot to do with the business terms he insisted on. What he had was a technology which allowed an improvement to a payment system. He imagined he had a monopoly on the only feasible solution. He was very baddly mistaken. The monopoly rents he demanded were more than the market was willing to pay for a working and deployed system - let alone for a patent license. Phill For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help".

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IP: New Law Requires ISPs to Register & Rat
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:11:11 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: New Law Requires ISPs to Register & Rat Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28357,00.html?st.ne.1.head Law enlists ISPs in piracy fight By John Borland Staff Writer, CNET News.com November 4, 1998, 5:30 p.m. PT A new set of federal regulations requires Internet service providers to register immediately with the U.S. government, lest they be held legally liable for pirated material that flows through their servers. The new rules, which went into effect yesterday, flow from the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which was signed by President Clinton last week. The law shields ISPs from being sued for copyright infringement based on their subscribers' postings, so long as they register with the U.S. Copyright Office. The provision is the product of negotiations over the original copyright law, and was accepted reluctantly by service provider industry representatives. "This isn't what we would have wanted. It's a Washington approach to a simple kind of problem," said Dave McClure, executive director of the Association of Online Professionals, a trade group that represents ISPs. Copyright holders had complained that some ISPs were not responding to warnings about pirated material located on their servers, or were claiming ignorance even after being notified. "Copyright holders pushed for a requirement that a person actually be physically designated to receive information about infringement," McClure said. The new law fills a legal gap left by the passage of the Communications Decency Act in 1996. Under that law, ISPs cannot be held liable for slanderous or libelous material that is posted on their services. That provision, which has been tested several times in court already, specifically excludes copyright issues. The new regulations require each ISP to designate a point-person to receive complaints about copyright infringement, and to send that information to the federal copyright office along with a $20 filing fee. The person's name and contact information also must be displayed prominently on the ISP's Web site. The rules went into effect November 3. Any unregistered ISP can legally be held liable for pirated material on its site from now on. The Copyright Office rules are only an interim step in the new law's implementation. Regulators will draft permanent rules and host a public comment period later this year or early next year. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **************************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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securities - PRIVATE PLACEMENT WSG TECH, INC.
by privateplacement＠royal.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:39:53 -0200 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> From: Ed Gerck <egerck(a)LASER.CPS.SOFTEX.BR> Subject: Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies To: DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies This is a comment to the article "Not for Identification Purposes" by Richard Sobel, of 8/12/98, and a reply by Jorge Cortell-Albert, all referenced at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filter/101598/letters.html >From the inherent conflict seen in these articles, it is quite apparent that one could profit from a new perspective when dealing with identification issues today. Not only because of historical examples of misuse or because the Clinton administration is proposing a national ID card that may compromise privacy, but because we need to harmonize needs with tools. Clearly, there is an escalating need to identify -- likewise, there is an increasingly easy access to information and massive cross-checking of data based on global indexes. Biometrics, contrary to expressed opinion such as Cortell-Albert's, is not self-secure and cannot protect what it forthrightly denies: privacy. One does not even have to recall the proverbial truck that hits the subject, in order to realize that biometrics is also perishable. In fact, biometrics just highlights the basic paradox of privacy versus security -- where one is asked to forfeit privacy in a rather permanent way in order to gain some transient level of security. Are identification and privacy antinomies, like freedom and slavery? Is there an unresolvable conflict between both security and privacy? Current expressed opinion, such as Sobel's and Cortell-Albert's, says "yes" to both questions. As we have no real solution within the current level of understanding, one needs a fresh look into identification and identity. To exercise the solution, Internet protocols can provide a good practical arena accessible to all and truly international -- thus, I will use it in this exposition as an example. However, it will be clear that I could likewise use anything else -- even the US Government's current proposal for a national ID card. Identification is often understood as an act of identifying, or of establishing an identity. Identity is usually defined as "the distinguishing character or personality of an individual" [1]. Of course, such definitions cannot be applied on the Internet. Any mention to "identity" or "identity authentication" on the Internet is a mere tag for something else, such as an individual's purported attribute. Certainly, without any physical contact with an individual or even without any way to directly verify it. It is simply not possible to speak of "identity" or "identification" as a dictionary defines it, over the Internet. All legal and technical studies that call for or depend on such equivalence are misleading. Any such "identity" or "identification" can be faked, repudiated or are specifically unwarranted (e.g. by commercial CAs) to relying-parties over the Internet. That the US INS accepts UK birth (naming) certificates in order to certify immigration status for its own policy of regulation, does not mean that the INS is acting to "confirm" the legitimacy of the name, or organise the UK namespace. So, the first conclusion is that acceptance of an identity by a recipient does not make that identification more veritable to others ... though it is often interpreted so, especially when a third document is issued by the recipient and publicly known. Sure, there is a bar on the standard of the {UK,...} authorities who the INS respects sufficiently for its own activities. But INS confirmation (or rather "use") confers no status on the original document unless the INS policy wished to make such representation explicit. Which would involve legal responsibilities that escalate like those that would derive from a blank signed cheque. Thus, this is also an unsolved problem in the 3D-world, outside the Internet. On 15th April 1997, The Daily Telegraph, a UK quality newspaper, reported on Alan Reeve [2] -- a convicted criminal and triple killer who was described as "friendly, caring, dependable and loving" by his fiancÈe when he was arrested under false identity in Ireland. Clearly, the indeterminacy of "identity" on the 3D-world is itself a reason to doubt any extension of such credentials to the Internet [3,4]. Which is made worse by the often neglected fact that the certificate user (e.g., "relying-party") is not privy to the contract between the CA and the certificate subscriber [3]. Further, CAs effectively contradict any possible public rights that relying-parties might claim, by declaring in the CA's CPS (the governing law) that a certificate has no warranted content to relying-parties [3]. Moreover, on the Internet, we also need to identify hosts, routing, software, etc. -- not just humans. Thus, the basic Net disconnect is that the Internet is essentially that wire that goes to your computer! Anything else that you imagine is just this -- you imagine. Even if you receive a message that looks like mine, from my address, should you believe 100% it is mine? "Doubt until you have proof". Of course, the degree of proof required depends on what is at stake and what is your cost -- however, the best proof is to be considered the one that leaves the concerned parties with no doubts [cf. 2]. Of course, the law may require a higher degree of proof (eg, when buying firearms you cannot just do it over e-mail -- you need to present a legal identity, a legal connection to yourself and perhaps also an address as a further legal connection). The same disconnect happens in the 3D world, because who is to affirm that the presented ID card is the "right one"? Or, that the person depicted in the card is the "right one"? Who is Alan Reeve? However, as given in [5,6], there is an answer to the privacy/security paradox. And, practical tools that may help the Clinton administration (or, any government, company or individual) to decrease costs without resorting to privacy burdens over the puported beneficiaries. The answer begins by a question: What is "to identify"? The study shows that "to identify" is to look for connections. Thus, in identification we look for logical or natural connections -- we look for coherence. The work shows that not identity but coherence is the general metric for identification and deduces more than 64 basic types of identification. More coherence and more identification types mean stronger identification, even if anonymous. Identification can thus be understood not only in the sense of an "identity" connection, but in the wider sense of "any" connection. Which one to use is just a matter of protocol expression, need, cost and (very importantly) privacy concerns. A further benefit is that it allows clear definitions for a large number of new anonymous identification types, sorely needed on the Internet, for e-commerce and to decrease costs inccurred with fraud, in general, but without compromising one's privacy just to tank the car or buy a lunch. I note that even though motivated by the Internet, as a practical arena, the concepts reported in [5,6] can be applied to improve any identification method -- including the present proposal by the US Government. Cheers, Ed Gerck ============================================ References: [1] Merriam-Webster Dictionary, http:www.m-w.com [2] http://www.mcg.org.br/auth_b1.htm [3] http://www.mcg.org.br/certover.pdf [4] http://www.mcg.org.br/cert.htm [5] http://www.mcg.org.br/coherence.txt [6] http://www.mcg.org.br/coherence2.txt ______________________________________________________________________ Dr.rer.nat. E. Gerck egerck(a)novaware.cps.softex.br http://novaware.cps.softex.br --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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by bob＠tokensystems.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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FCC Wiretap Rule
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FCC has issued its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on CALEA wiretap provisions, approved on October 22: http://jya.com/fcc98282.htm (243K) Zipped: http://jya.com/fcc98282.zip (67K) Lengthy discussion of petitioners (CDT, EFF, telcos, others) objections and FBI's responses.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Digicash bankruptcy
by SECRET AGENT 66 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The root failure of Interactive TV was the assumption >that the world wanted to spend its time passively consuming the dross >pumped out through a 1000 channel Actually, the failure of interactive tv was that the world was perfectly happy passively comsuming the dross pumped out through a 1000 channels. Probably explains the failure of digicash, too. joab

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by info＠hot-stock.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Matthew James Gering wrote: > >Provided you don't corrupt the meaning of free-market to include > >any possible black market, then yes, there will *always* be a > >black market. It can be made rather insignificant however. Petro responded: > Assuming your definition of "free market" is "a market without > regulation", you can't have a black market in a free market > since a black market is trade in violation of regulations. Like I said, if you don't corrupt the meaning of free market. Laissez Faire capitalism is based on a concept of individual rights. Therefore the proper role of any government (in a libertarian state) or individual/social institution (in rational anarchy) is to protect individual rights (life, liberty, property), and act as an objective framework for retributive force. Therefore, any transaction that violates individual rights is immoral (if not illegal) and constitutes a black market. e.g. assassinations, ransom, stolen goods, extortion, slavery, etc. To create a anarcho-capitalist definition of free market where everything goes and there is no concept of individual rights is as immoral and perverse as the statist concepts that similarly have no concept of individual rights (fascism, communism). Matt

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:34:34 -0500 > From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> > Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone > (fwd) > Assuming your definition of "free market" is "a market without > regulation", you can't have a black market in a free market since a black > market is trade in violation of regulations. Actualy a black market is usualy goods gotten through theft or other illegal means, not necessarily anything related to how or what is sold. If you don't corrupt free-market to include legitimizing theft as a viable market strategy then yes, you can in fact have a black market in a free-market. Let's consider auto-theft. The issue isn't that you can't buy the car through legitimate means, it just means you have to have more resources than you have. So what do you do? You find somebody whose stolen a vehicle and is willing to sell it to you at a discount. > In other words, a Black market is when you trade either illegal > goods illegally, or legal goods illegally. Too strict and unrealistic a definition of black market. > If there are no illegal goods, and there is no regulations limiting > trading, then the black market cannot exist. Of course not since we've now legitimized theft and murder with your definition. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Grounding (fwd)
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OMYGAWD! I can see that I'll have to give up soon. > The solutions to the wave equation inside the cavity have a real part ~0 > in the exponent. *** It's not a question of a Schroedingers Wave Equation, it's a question of Maxwell's Equations. *** Yeah I've got my old copy of Jackson. MTW too, for all the good it did me. Maxwell's equations can be used to form a wave equation too. I only bring up the Schroedinger equation because the solutions to simple particle-in-a-box examples are easy to generate and easy to visualize. Anyone who even began a decent Physics program should have done many of these. The probability function for the Quantum example *looks like* the amplitude for the EM example...analogy is a good tool. > The boundary condition at the inside surface of the > copper box splices together the solutions in the cavity and inside the > conductor. *** What conductor? The shell is equipotential unless you're trying to play head games with me so there follows there can be no current flow through it except radialy to the outside of the sphere. *** DC, Yes. AC, things are happening. To solve the diffeq's for an EM wave incident on a conducting surface you have to make the solutions !inside! the conductor match the solutions outside the conductor. Only if the conductor is *perfect* does your assumption of nothing going on inside the conductor make sense. BTW - the skin depth for Cu at 100MHz is about 0.00026". The skin depth is proportional to f^(-0.5). In brief, here's what happens to the wave incident on a copper sheet: Wave is incident on surface Most of the wave is reflected the better the conductor, the more is reflected the portion that is not reflected is attenuated in the conductor ( loss ) any amplitude on the other surface of the sheet radiates energy. It should be obvious that, if the conductor is good, there will be very little amplititude inside the conductor, low loss reflection. Further, that 4 mils of Cu should provide ~80 dB loss in even the tiny amount that is not reflected at the inner surface. At 100MHz. I haven't solved this system for many years and I'm not inclined to go back to it now. Take my word for it : a little RF can get through a copper sheet but only a *very* little. It's the finite conductivity that alters the simple scenario. *** Let's walk through it using your model.... The spark gap generates sparks and that builds up free electrons in the space inside the sphere (whether it is gas filled or a vacuum is irrelevant). As that charge builds up it will be all of one type, electrons. Now the electrons repel each other and therefor move in a circular motion with the spark gap as the center. They strike the surface of the sphere and tunnel through to the outside surface where they reside. The amount of charge at any one point is related to the curvature of the surface at that point. Since a sphere is constant curvature the charge will be evenly distributed. It will continue to build up so long as you supply power to the spark gap. In an ideal world it will get bigger and bigger. In the real world at some point insulation breaks down and normal current flow takes place. *** Wild! Forget all this, this patchwork of pieces doesn't hold together as a description of the physical problem. If it helps, forget about the spark gap. Waves waves waves. Start with a wave packet in the box. Don't worry about how it got there. Worry about keeping it there. Best regards Jim, Mike

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Fwd: How true this is
by John C 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Grounding (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:26:05 -0800 > From: Michael Motyka <mmotyka(a)lsil.com> > Subject: Re: Grounding (fwd) > Yeah I've got my old copy of Jackson. MTW too, for all the good it did > me. Maxwell's equations can be used to form a wave equation too. I only > bring up the Schroedinger equation because the solutions to simple > particle-in-a-box examples are easy to generate and easy to visualize. The problem is we're not discussing a particle in a box. We're discussing the statistical mechanical behaviour of a group of particles. Apples and oranges. One, you're scale of distance between the two is off by orders of magnitude. Secondly, you're considering an electron carrying a photon as a single wavicle, it ain't. It's a superposition of several wavicles (3 quarks and a lepton to be exact under the standard model). Thirdly, you're trying to model a group of particles as a single instance of Schroedengers Wave equation, a big no no. Fourthly, you're failing to take into account the interactions between the particles and those consequences because of mass charge, which after all is the engine that drives this model. In reference to your particle-in-a-box model, the point you seem to miss is that the scale of the box is on the order of a few Planck distances. That behaviour is grossly different than a ball 10 in. in diameter filled with a gas of electrons (and potentialy protons if it's not a vacuum) all carrying short-wavelength photons around. > DC, Yes. AC, things are happening. Where did the AC come from? We're talking about a spark gap that is only going to emit electrons *and* is run by a battery (it's your baby). Where the hell do I buy an AC battery pray tell? Where? Under your example there is no mass charge flow because ground is irrelevant. So we're left with only the gas like behaviours. Now it's clear that the individual particle paths are going to be modelled via a drunkards walk. So, where does this coherent flow come from? If there is a flow it implies, because of the behaviour of like/dislike charges, that there is a difference in charge. > To solve the diffeq's for an EM wave incident on a conducting surface > you have to make the solutions !inside! the conductor match the > solutions outside the conductor. Only if the conductor is *perfect* does > your assumption of nothing going on inside the conductor make sense. What the hell are you talking about?.... Here's what we're discussing: A generator emits electrons which carry a negative charge. These electrons each also carry a photon of some quantity. Like charges repel. When a photon strikes an atom it will be absorbed if it's wavelength matches one of the Bohr radii. This may cause one or more secondary photons to be emitted as a result. The assumption was the spark gap is in the center of the ball. Because the spark gaps emission of electrons is random the resultant cloud of particles can be modelled as a gas that is expanding from a point source. The expansion is driven by the repelling effect of the charges. This causes the the particles at time tau to, on average - remember we're talking statistical mechanics here, expand at an equal rate, in effect forming a bubble of particles coherent with tau. That rate is usualy related to k * sqrt ( s ). As the charges expand some will emit photons. Some of the atoms in the shell will emit photons. Some of each will absorb photons. At some point (tau + delta) the charge impacts the shell. This will in effect increase the charge of the shell by 1 -e. Now, by Gauss's Law, this charge in the gas will induce an opposite charge on the inside surface of the globe. Unlike charges attract. Therefore the gas of electrons are attracted to the inside surface. Now since the globe is neutral it must follow by conservation of charge that there is a negative charge equal to the charge held in the gas on the *OUTSIDE* of the ball. This is in addition to the charge that steadily builds up in the shell as the electrons accrete over time. This can be modelled with an integral of the flow rate of the current in the battery (it after all is Coulombs/s). It's not too hard (k * I). (I'm not going to go into what happens as the charge on the shell builds up as we're discussing here the applicability of wave equations as a reliable model). So what do you get? A hell of a charge that will go bang at some point when some insulation give way. See: Physics J. Orear ISBN 0-02-389460-1 pp. 304 "Electrical Induction" He uses your exact model except for the tether. It's a classic in Freshman Physics and science museums. > BTW - the skin depth for Cu at 100MHz is about 0.00026". The skin depth > is proportional to f^(-0.5). So what if the electron gives it's photon up to another which causes it to bounce around through the Cu lattice till it gets to the other side knocking an electron free (conservation of momentum) or emitting a free photon (which is what we're *REALLY* talking about reducing with TEMPEST - you could think of it as cooling the laptop at rf frequencies if you like, you could model it with a spin-glass based cellular automaton). It's called charge migration and there are also effects at high voltage which is called charge tunneling. If you examine the literature of Japanese hi-v researchers they have become adept at causing ball lightening to tunnel through insulators. It's pretty interesting. There are also quite a few cases where the inducement fails and the result is a broken ceramic plate because of the heating effects. [rest deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. 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17 Dec '03

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ASHCROFT 2000 RIP?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:04 PM -0500 on 11/6/98, National Review DC wrote: > ASHCROFT 2000 RIP? > Gov. Mel Carnahan (D., Mo.) has announced he will challenge Sen. John > Ashcroft's (R., Mo.) re-election. It's an ominous move for the freshman > senator's presidential bid. Sen. Phil Gramm had a tougher race than > usual following his disastrous 1996 run for the presidency, and he was > running against a political nobody. Gov. Carnahan is politically > formidable, and could give Ashcroft a run for his money even without the > distractions, missed votes, and potential embarrassments of a > presidential campaign. Ashcroft now must worry about the Dornan effect. > > On the other hand, Ashcroft would be able to convert any funds raised in > a presidential campaign to his Senate race if he lost the former. But > handicappers already question how much he can raise. ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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verisign digital id's for outlook <shudder>
by jkthomson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Albert P. Franco, II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> >Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd) > >Forwarded message: > >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:34:34 -0500 >> From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> >> Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone >> (fwd) > >> In other words, a Black market is when you trade either illegal >> goods illegally, or legal goods illegally. > >Too strict and unrealistic a definition of black market. I would add the clause illegal goods (apparently) legally. This covers the case where stolen property is moved through legitimate channels. Even if the government doesn't restrict and legitimize the channels there must be restrictions on theft and inappropriate acquisition (fraud) of goods (and services) otherwise the result is not free-market, but rather barbarism and brute force rule. Under the "free-for-all" definition of free market, the final result would actually be slavery (since you wouldn't produce the items that I keep stealing from you unless I hold a gun to your head), and war (in order to get resources I can pay or I can steal, since I don't like to pay, I'll just get a bigger army and steal it from you). Sounds drastic? There are a few examples today in the parts of Africa controlled by warlords. > >> If there are no illegal goods, and there is no regulations limiting >> trading, then the black market cannot exist. > >Of course not since we've now legitimized theft and murder with your >definition. > Nothing is EVER black and white. And free-market can never be 100% free or it will cease to be a market. APF

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RE: Quick, Dear -- Beat Me
by Albert P. Franco, II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: "Lynne L. Harrison" <lharrison(a)dueprocess.com> >Subject: RE: Quick, Dear -- Beat Me >At 10:47 AM 11/5/98 -0500, Petro wrote: >>At 12:08 AM -0500 11/5/98, Blanc wrote: >>>From Duncan Frissell: >>> >>>I just went to the bank I do business with this week to open a new account. >>>They wanted my social security number, (which they actually already have on >>>record), and during a search on her handy database, the Customer Assistance >>>clerk informed me that there was another person in Florida using the same >>>number. Long list of problems which could result from someone using your SSN snipped... >All in all, you should seriously reconsider your decision of not reporting >the problem. > > So much for the SSN "never" becoming a national ID number! Since your SS account and pension can be negatively impacted, this tends to reinforce the idea that your SSN should be a secret. But how can we keep it a secret if they keep putting it on public documents such as drivers licenses? Seems to me that when they are all done making the SSN the official National ID number they will need to give us a NEW SSN that is secret, kind of like a PIN to unlock and validate our National ID and SS accounts. ...and latter a PIN to protect the PIN... APF

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Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 01:33:18 -0500 > From: Michael Hohensee <mah248(a)nyu.edu> > Subject: Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd) > No government can protect individual rights. That isn't a reasonable statement. There is nothing in the definition or application of 'government' or 'individual rights' that preclude this. The issue becomes in a practical sense how the practitioners of a government system respect individual rights. If they are willing to do away with them to protect them (as we seem to be moving toward in this country) then of course there are no individual rights. Of course, this implies there are no collective rights either. > The only way one could do > so would be if it: (a) could predict the future, and act to prevent > certain futures from happening; or (b) it controls every aspect and > motion of each individual's life, thereby ensuring that nobody steps out > of line. What has that to do with protecting individual rights? Clarify please. > All any state can do is threaten to "retaliate" against (why not just > say "attack") people who disobey its edicts. In order for this threat > to be credible, the state must wield sufficient power to kill any > individual (or group of individuals) who would stand against it. If it > does not have this power, it cannot govern. This is a quaint and completely artificial distinction. > citizens. As often seems the case today, for example. We also see quite a few situations where the opposite occurs as well. > The system you suggest, which I assume consists of a state with a > "minimal" amount of power, run by enlightened people, is in a state of Anyone who assumes noble oblige is an idiot. There are no enlightened people, intelligence and wealth no more prepare an individual for a position in government than they prepare them for anything else. Rich/intelligent people don't make less mistakes than those who aren't. > extremely unstable equilibrium (if it is indeed in equilibrium). If it If you're talking of Hayek's equilibrium, it's nothing more than a bastardization of a thermodynamics term to represent the status quo. Equilabrium in the economic sense simply means that people do today what they did yesterday. In general they do about as often as they don't. > wields just enough power to enforce its will, that power can be used by > evil men to increase its power. Evil? Where did religion come into this at? > Just look at what happened after the Constitutional coup took place in > the fledgling USA. Remember the Whiskey Rebellion? When we lost the > Articles of Confederation, we were taking the first steps down the road > to the tyranny of today. The anti-federalists predicted this, although > they sorely underestimated how far it would go --assuming that it would > be stopped by another revolution. There have been several since then. The Civil War and the civil rights movement in the 60's are two good examples (on the opposite end of the 'use-of-violence' scales). > The minimalist state has been tried. No, that was a non-federalist state where the individual states acted as individuals in a collective. Because of the collective nature of the state governments it didn't work. A minimalist state would be anarchy. > The only truly free system is one in which there is no body of people > calling itself a government which can enforce its will over the > individual. The only way people can seem to be free living under such a > body is entirely dependent upon the good will of their masters, and this > is a shaky assumption to make. No it isn't the only way. The only way is to clearly define the duties of each level of government and build a system of checks and balances that prohibit them from moving outside their domains. A good first attempt at this was the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (in particular 9 & 10). The problem is that there are individuals who don't want to be limited in their authority. It's a person problem not a government problem. > How about: Any action that involves the initiation of force against the > property of another person (the person belongs to himself, of course) is > immoral. Morality? Why do you keep bringing religion and individual beliefs into it? A person is, they don't belong to anyone. It should be: Any act that harms a person or their property without their prior permission is a crime. There are no exceptions other than immediate personal self defence, which terminates upon the application of minimal force to guarantee the threat will not reoccur (in many cases this means kill the attacker). This should apply to all individuals participating in a governmental role as well. > This neatly tidies up the obvious question of exactly what "individual > rights" are. There's a partial list of them in the bill of rights, but > it is not complete, by its own admission. By it's own admission they are protected from denial by the 9th and 10th so they don't need to be listed (unlike the 10th lists the duties of the government system). The problem is conservatives and liberals alike don't respect those boundaries. They want more. > Furthermore, the above > definition excludes such dubious rights as the "right to an education", > the "right to welfare", etc. Now you're doing exactly what you are complaining about. Your defining others rights when you don't want them defining yours. People may very well have a right to welfare and an education (I believe people have a civil right to medical and legal advice gratis - stems from the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness). The issue isn't that. The issue is *what are the duties of the government as defined in its charter*. If those duties are not in there (and they're not) then it shouldn't be doing it without an amendment from the charter. > All of the above involve the initiation (or threat of initiation) of > force. Hence they are immoral, and the victims and any bystanders would > be morally justified in using force against the initiators. Of course, > this would not be true in a governed society, where the state must hold > a monopoly on the use of force, if only to maintain its own position. > Much less efficient. Go read the Constitution, it's true here in our governemnt though many people don't want it to be so. As a result they find all kinds of childish and inane reasons to deny the obvious. Like it or not the federal governments panapoly of current powers are as vacous as the king is naked. It's like executive orders, unless you happen to work for the executive branch they aren't worth the paper they're written on. Why? Because at no point is the office of President given this authority over anyone other than executive branch employees. He has no more authority to dictate general behaviour via that mechanism than you or I do - zero. Per the 10th there is not one sentence in the Constitution that delegates that authority to the office. > We've all got our pet peeves. Would you like to live under mine? Would > I like to live under yours? Can I trust you to be tolerant? Can I > trust your successors, 20 years from now? Can my descendants trust > subsequent successors, 200 years later? Experience tends to show the > contrary. There is more at stake than toleration or trust. You paint with too narrow a brush. If you're saying we should have anarchy then you're as kooky as the people who don't literaly interpret the Constitution. > The anarcho-capitalist free market is not one where "everything goes," > and there is indeed a strong concept of individual rights. What is > moral and not moral is defined by society on an individual basis. The > first and only rule is: First, it is one of everything-goes because there is no mechanism that will stop anybody from doing anything. There are NO concepts of *rights* in such a system, let alone individual rights. If anything the only rights are who has the capitalist backing to stave off the anarchic forces. That's not justice, equality, or respect for rights. > No one has the right to initiate force against another or another's > property. Attack me with your body and property and watch it happen junior. > This is the fundamental and only "social contract" we make. Anyone who > disagrees with this is obviously antisocial, and nobody's going to want > to live with him (or allow him to continue living, if he attacks > someone). Oh bullshit. There is much more involved like not stealing which isn't the use of force and allowed by your anarcho-capatilism as well as your definition of valid use of force above. It's gibberish. > >From this, morality follows. If X does Y to Z, and if Y is perceived as > immoral, then X is not going to be very popular with Z or anyone else, > unless he can make amends. No one will want to trade with him, be near > him, etc. This is a very strong motive to avoid doing immoral things. Will you get religion the hell out of here please. Y is obviously popular with X or else they wouldn't have used it. It further follows that there are more than one X-type out there. So your premise falls down on its face in the dirt. > If Y is really nasty, such as the initiation of force, then X is going > to be in *deep* trouble. With who? In an anarcho-capitalist society as you paint it the optimal strategy is to allow others to reduce your competition opening up the market for you. Let's take an example. Imagine we live on a street and we notice a person going from house to house down the other side of the street. What is our optimal strategy? It isn't to call the cops (there aren't any) and it isn't to immediately kill the intruder (it isn't our property after all) since there is an opportunity to make a considerable gain here improving our status in the society as a whole. The optimal strategy is to wait and let this bozo kill our neighbors up to our house and *then* kill the intruder. At that point we have just inhereted an entire street of houses and its included properties. You put up a fence across each end of the street and wallah, your own little fifedom. If you're really lucky something similar will happen on the next street over and they won't be as lucky at killing the intruder. Then after they are all dead and the intruder has consolidated their gains (probably by fencing their street in) you can begin to scheme ways of taking that property since its obvious yours is next. > Z may well shoot him out of self defense, and > even if he survives his action, he'll have to pay a *lot* of restitution > before people will trust him again, if ever. Law enforcement by > ostracism --read L. Neil Smith's "The Probability Broach", for a more > detailed description. Wait a second, there is no law to enforce here outside of make money, obtain property, keep somebody else from taking it. > In summary, a free market is far from being an immoral market. In fact, > it is the most moral market there is, since there is no state which > holds the "right" to initiate force. In summary a free-market is a anarchy of kill or be killed, take or get taken. He with the most goodies wins until somebody with a better strategy comes along. There is nothing to moderate the use of force, especialy when its the optimal strategy to increase ones holdings. Your spouting gibberish. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Stip club plays by rules and wins...for now [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:34:45 -0600 > X-within-URL: http://customnews.cnn.com/cnews/pna.show_story?p_art_id=3130419&p_section_n…. > STRIP CLUB FINDS WAY AROUND CITY RESTRICTION: LET KIDS IN > > AP > 06-NOV-98 > > NEW YORK (AP) -- A New York City strip club has found a loophole that > allows it to wriggle past the mayor's crackdown on sex-oriented > businesses. > > The club says its policy is to admit kids -- if they're accompanied by > adults. > > Therefore, it argues, it's not an adult business. > > A judge agrees. > > Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is livid. [rest deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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A question about the new ISP ruling and email...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I was pondering the draconian implications of the requirement to register ISP's. Would an email only site be an ISP under these regulations? What I had in mind was a box sitting here on a link to the Internet and several local dial-ins. When a user logged in they could start pine, elm, slip, or ppp. It would support inbound only telnet. The only commands that would execute besides the above would be exit, quit, bye. There would not need to be any directory access or related issues. The only storage avaiable would be quotas on email buffer size. Would such a commercial entity require registry to be protected? I have to talk with a lawyer and find out if TAG needs registered. If so then I'd be interested in participating in a civil liberties suit. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Aaww horseplops[1]! In fact, great, festering, mid-path, sole-sticking horseplops! This argument is vacuous. As every small child knows, authentication != identification and, in most cases, only authentication is required and, the absence of identification implies privacy. Am I a UK citizen, a good credit risk, a club member in good standing, etc. An appropriate mechanism, a smartcard, can easily authenticate both itself (challenge-response) and the bearer via a biometric and/or PIN without revealing the identity of the holder. However, who holds out hope that such a sensible thing would ever be adopted by the powers-that-be. Nematode [1] The plop is a useful measure of human cogitation. As every small child knows, much good thinking is done whilst enthroned on the commode, since the evacuation of feces from the anus promotes the introduction of fresh material into the brain through the ears. After years of experimentation and careful measurement, we (the ISO labs) have observed a strong correlation between ideas and fecal bombardment of the receptive commodal pool and audible emissions therefrom. For example, it required only 0.3 plops to decide to vote for Clinton while a similar decision in favor of John Major required almost 5 plops. For the purposes of comparison, 10^6 homosapiens plop = 1 horseplop. While the relationship between megaplops, flops and MIPS is not yet clear, our ISO plop standard should be emitted soon. -----BEGIN PLOP SIGNATURE----- Version: PLOP for Personal Privacy Charset: nocommode NSACIAMOUSEaw6mkJhRWnHTzAQFMlgP/ZMM+14qUzy+w6AGSlOtAyrE2BBDSV3Hm Tlc0Ct7wyXV2CPEMzieCm4ZS0rzigkgTZTMCmEqYexEJkdSAU60WMHm3cr28UJIG ekx7N7aWKQ34u05dRrE+IVR329y0ia/2F8B7edZ7CqoydOJAnQxNIB1qohlCGlGT RYgOGVSpO04= =MF1K -----END PLOP SIGNATURE-----

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Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:26:24 +0100 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Subject: Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies > Am I a UK citizen, a good credit risk, a club member in good > standing, etc. An appropriate mechanism, a smartcard, can easily > authenticate both itself (challenge-response) and the bearer via a biometric > and/or PIN without revealing the identity of the holder. > > However, who holds out hope that such a sensible > thing would ever be adopted by the powers-that-be. What the powers-that-be hold is realy irrelevant. The issue is what do we do to make sure that the powers-that-are-to-be don't have that option? ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email...
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)EINSTEIN.ssz.com> > > Hi, > > I was pondering the draconian implications of the requirement to register > ISP's. Would an email only site be an ISP under these regulations? I dunno. But I've begun netcopping the Ignition-Point list on an ongoing basis (starting Friday), and they'll be an interesting test case of whether what they're doing is "fair use". Pobox.com/listbox.com is reluctantly assigning a person to receive (my) copyright complaints, and will register themselves with the FCO. I like to post whole articles myself. Anyway, for a test case, better them than me. ---guy ;-)

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IP: Head of U.S. Internet Policy Plans to Resign: Magaziner
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:05:02 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Head of U.S. Internet Policy Plans to Resign: Magaziner Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/yr/mo/cyber/articles/07magaziner.html November 6, 1998 Magaziner, Head of U.S. Internet Policy, Plans to Resign By JERI CLAUSING ASHINGTON -- Ira C. Magaziner, who has led the Clinton Administration's efforts to foster the growth of the Internet and electronic commerce, said today that he plans to leave the White House before the end of the year. Magaziner said he has not set a departure date or made any firm plans for his future, but he hopes to wrap up his duties within the next month and move back to New England. His family moved there a year ago, he said, and he has been commuting since then. "I felt a responsibility to follow through on what we had committed," Magaziner said. "And we have had some good successes." Magaziner joined the Clinton Administration five and a half years ago to draft what turned out to be a doomed effort to restructure the nation's health care system. He then turned to the Internet, where he has been aggressively trying to shape domestic and international policy for electronic commerce and governance of the Internet. "At a time when there was a lot of confusion about where the [Internet] industry was going both domestically and internationally, Ira Magaziner was the guy who rolled up his sleeves and got into the nitty-gritty of how technology works, what the effect would be on our society, and then took those notions and began to be the evangelist for the Internet industry in a global marketplace," said Brian O'Shaughnessy, spokesman for the Internet Alliance, one of the world's largest associations of companies with Internet interests. "He's a cerebral guy who took these intellectual ideas and wrestled a lot of very powerful forces to the table... He's certainly been the champion for [Internet] self-governance." In June 1997, after studying the Internet for 15 months, Magaziner released the Administration's "Framework for Electronic Commerce," which called for a hands-off, market-driven approach to regulation of the global network. Magaziner's philosophy then and now is that while the Internet is growing rapidly, this growth could be stymied by excessive government intervention. "For this potential to be realized fully," he wrote in that report, "governments must adopt a nonregulatory, market-oriented approach to electronic commerce, one that facilitates the emergence of a transparent and predictable legal environment to support global business and commerce. Official decision makers must respect the unique nature of the medium and recognize that widespread competition and increased consumer choice should be the defining features of the new digital marketplace." Since then, he has led efforts to hand administration of the global network over to the private sector, and has traveled the world pushing other countries to endorse his tax-free, unregulated approach to the new medium. Magaziner said he is satisfied that he has put the issue of electronic commerce on the world's agenda. In addition to winning passage of two new laws imposing a moratorium on new Internet taxes in the United States and protecting copyrights in the digital age, he has won international agreements to keep the Internet duty-free and set standards for international payment systems. He is also wrapping up what has been a highly contentious effort to hand the administrative functions of the Internet's name and address system over to a private corporation. But as he announces his departure, Magaziner has left one important issue -- online privacy -- unresolved. Magaziner has been the lead cheerleader for industry self-regulation on how personal data is collected and used in electronic databases, a controversial stance that has put the United States directly at odds with the European Union and one that threatens to disrupt electronic commerce with those countries. Critics say he has ignored consumer interests in favor of business. However, others laud his refusal to back down. "Ira...has been working long and hard on behalf of self-governance and not letting the E.U. data directive simply become the rule of the day," O'Shaughnessy said. The European directive that took effect last month imposes strict privacy policies on companies that do business in Europe. A key provision of that law prohibits any company doing business in the European Union from transmitting personal data to any country that does not guarantee comparable privacy protections. The European Union has said that self-regulatory models adopted by industry groups in the United States do not meet its requirements. It has held off on imposing sanctions against the United States until at least December while the governments involved attempt to negotiate a compromise. The Commerce Department this week laid out its negotiating position, which proposes giving companies a variety of "safe harbors" to satisfy privacy protection. One idea is to create independent organizations that would monitor a company's data practices and give companies that comply with accepted guidelines what amounts to a stamp of approval. The E.U. has so far rejected that plan. But Magaziner said the Administration has scored a victory in getting the E.U. to agree to discuss self-regulation as a remedy. "They agreed to hold back, and we are still discussing it with them," he said. "We got them to recognize in February self-regulation as being legitimate. So under their own direction they are saying self-regulatory approaches can work. Now we have to get them to agree to recognize what we are proposing. That may not be finished by the time I leave, but it will be well along." Magaziner has also been leading the effort to move administration of the Internet to an international, nonprofit corporation. That power had been exercised by the United States government -- at first directly, and in recent years under a government contract granting a monopoly on domain name registrations to Network Solutions, a corporation based in Herndon, Va. A driving force toward creation of the new board was the demand by private companies around the world that they be allowed to compete with Network Solutions in the lucrative business of registering domain names. But finding a solution that balances the interests of more traditional, academic institutions with trademark holders and commercial entities with a huge stake in the future of electronic commerce proved difficult, and much controversy still surrounds the plan that Magaziner hopes to finalize this month. Last month, the Administration tentatively approved handing the reins of the Internet over to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). This new corporation was set up largely under the direction of one of the Internet's founders, the late Jon Postel. Although the ICANN proposal was presented as having "the support of a broad consensus of Internet stakeholders, private and public," several groups have complained that it was hammered out in secret and still lacks proper fiscal controls and appropriate power checks on future board members. The Department of Commerce has asked the nine-member interim board of ICANN to craft new bylaws that address those concerns, a proposal that is expected to be completed within the next week and which will be the topic of a public meeting next week in Cambridge, Mass. Copyright 1998 The New York Times Company ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. 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Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now *this* should be fun. Someone who claims to be a cypherpunk is now going to call the copyright police on a non-profit, volunteer news list. Cryptoanarchy indeed. The ganglia twitch. When the going gets tough, the "tough" rat out the innocent, it appears... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text From: Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:56:55 -0500 (EST) To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Subject: Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email... Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Precedence: first-class Reply-To: Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> X-Loop: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)EINSTEIN.ssz.com> > > Hi, > > I was pondering the draconian implications of the requirement to register > ISP's. Would an email only site be an ISP under these regulations? I dunno. But I've begun netcopping the Ignition-Point list on an ongoing basis (starting Friday), and they'll be an interesting test case of whether what they're doing is "fair use". Pobox.com/listbox.com is reluctantly assigning a person to receive (my) copyright complaints, and will register themselves with the FCO. I like to post whole articles myself. Anyway, for a test case, better them than me. ---guy ;-) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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genetic copy protection
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A patent on a means to produce seeds which germinate, but which produce plants whose seeds are sterile, was reviewed in Science, p 850, 30 Oct 98 vol 282. The trick is that the seeds are genetically engineered, and the seeds are 'activated' by an antibiotic (which acts like a signal). The purpose is to copy-protect other engineered genes in the organism. US pat 5,723,765 David Honig "When horsemeat is outlawed, only outlaws will eat horsemeat"

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Re: Blind signal demodulation
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Matt Crawford" <crawdad(a)fnal.gov> wrote: >>The October 1993 Proceedings of the IEEE contain a number of rather ... >>... They also comment that blind decoders for typical voiceband >>signals can be implemented on Pentium MMX/UltraSparc-grade hardware. >Did you make specific a more general spec they made, or did you typo the date >of the issue? Oops, that should be October 1998, not 1993 (ie last months issue). Sorry about that. Peter.

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IP: ISPI Clips 6.14: Anonymous eCash Provider-DigiCash-Files Chapter 11
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 6.14: Anonymous eCash Provider-DigiCash-Files Chapter 11 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:19:06 -0800 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 6.14: Anonymous eCash Provider-DigiCash-Files Chapter 11 News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Friday November 6, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: CNET News.com, November 4, 1998 http://www.news.com DigiCash Files Chapter 11 http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28360,00.html?st.ne.4.head By Tim Clark, timc(a)cnet.com Staff Writer, CNET News.com Electronic-cash pioneer DigiCash [ http://www.digicash.com/ ] said today it's filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after shrinking its payroll to about six people from nearly 50 in February. The company, which has been running off a bridge loan from its venture capital investors since June, is seeking new investors from established financial institutions or a buyer for its software technology. The company's operations in the Netherlands, where it was founded, were liquidated in September. "To really launch and brand something like this in the Internet space is likely to take a fair amount more capital," said Scott Loftesness, DigiCash's interim CEO since August. "It's more appropriate for strategic investors, corporate players or banks themselves as a consortium model." Electronic-cash schemes have found difficult sledding recently. First Virtual Holdings [ http://www.firstvirtual.com/ ], which had a form of e-cash, exited the business in July. CyberCash's [ http://www.cybercash.com/ ] CyberCoin offering hasn't really caught on. Digital Equipment, now part of Compaq Computer [ http://www.compaq.com/ ] is testing its Millicent electronic cash, and IBM [ http://www.ibm.com/ ] is in early trials for a product called Minipay. Under bankruptcy laws, DigiCash's Chapter 11 filing allows the company to continue operations, while keeping its creditors at bay as the company reorganizes. Most of DigiCash's $4 million in debt is owed to its initial venture capital financiers who extended the bridge loan, August Capital http://www.augustcap.com/ ], Applied Technology, and Dutch investment firm Gilde Investment. DigiCash's eCash allows consumers to make anonymous payments of any amount--and anonymity differentiates eCash against other e-cash schemes. DigiCash's intellectual property assets include patents, protocols, and software systems that also could be used for applications, like online electronic voting or private scrip issued by a particular retailer. DigiCash suffered a setback in September when the only U.S. bank offering its scheme, Mark Twain Bank, dropped the offering. But a number of major banks in Europe and Australia offer or are testing DigiCash's electronic cash. Also in September, DigiCash closed its Dutch operations and liquidated its assets there. Loftesness said DigiCash has a list of 35-40 potential partners, and he has been talking to players like IBM for months. He expects to resolve DigiCash's status in the next five months. "Everybody feels anonymous e-cash is inevitable, but the existing situation was not going to get there from here," said Loftesness, who is frustrated by potential partners telling him, "This is absolutely strategic, but unfortunately it's not urgent." The company was founded by David Chaum and was well-known in the Internet's earliest days. MIT Media Labs' Nicholas Negroponte is a director of DigiCash. 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re: Response to Anonymous re: Zero-Knowledge Freedom
by Austin Hill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Attn: Anonymous Thank you for your comments with regards to the Freedom project. I would like to respond to some of the points you have brought up. >-----Original Message----- >From: HyperReal-Anon [mailto:nobody@sind.hyperreal.art.pl] >Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 7:30 PM >To: austin(a)zks.net >Subject: > > >Attn: Austin Hill >Zero Knowledge Systems, Inc. >3981 St. Laurent Blvd. >Suite 810 >Montr=E9al, Qu=E9bec >H2W 1Y5 >Canada >514.286.2636 phone >514.286.2755 fax > >Mr. Hill: > >Congratulations. I hope your name goes down in history for being >involved in creating and operating FREEDOM.net > >Additional suggestions for the FREEDOM.NET concept: > >1) Undoubtedly, after your client software is developed and deployed >there will be nations run by legislators and politicians with evil >intentions to continue to restrict and sabotage the privacy of >individuals. If your software already has flexible measures coded into >it to counter these evil forces, privacy seeking citizens from >affected nations will prevail. > >For the client side software, it would be extremely useful to have a >feature (or an input field) where users can view their IP hops >(traceroutes), but more important to allow users to BYPASS all local >FREEDOM servers in their home country (example: if terrible laws are >passed like in the Netherlands requiring logging and storage of all >packet info., etc.). In this manner, a local user in a restrictive >nation could set their client to BYPASS all local FREEDOM servers, >accessing only FREEDOM servers in the nearest friendly nation which >protects privacy of users and allows FREEDOM servers to operate AS YOU >DESIGNED THEM. Even the FSU of Russia has already begun to >implement "black box" requirements at every ISP (only Internet by >satellite will bypass this ?) > >Example: > ><Box to check> **Bypass local FREEDOM SERVER** >Enter the IP address of first FREEDOM server to route >through__________________________________ (user fills in this blank) > Route definitions for use of AnonymousIP nodes is COMPLETELY configurable. A user of Freedom can define preferred exit hops (i.e. 'Make all my pseudonyms IP traffic come from country X'); server's to avoid (i.e. 'Never use any Freedom node in country X'); and some rather advanced custom configurations (i.e. 'Always make my exit hop of of the following countries, use the fastest and best routing point for my first hop and make my middle hop one of the following trusted nodes') With regards to countries such as the Netherlands; and Russia these laws will have no effect on Freedom users. Since all IP traffic leaves the local computer anonymized and multiply encrypted with the different keys for different hops a local ISP that is logging all traffic as per government rules will only be able to log encrypted data and be able to reveal that this user is using Freedom. The ability to define the destination or content of that Internet traffic is not possible. As well, due to the features we have included for traffic analysis foiling, both packets and links are padded to avoid traffic correlation's. Even if an all powerful network attacker with the ability to watch all incoming and outgoing connections to all Freedom nodes attempts to correlate traffic patterns, they will not be able to reveal the true identity behind the pseudonym. The user interface for controlling the Freedom node selection and some of these rules is designed to make it COMPLETELY transparent and easy for the average Internet user. There will be an advanced mode that allows more advanced users to built custom routing profiles that they can associate with a particular pseudonym or with particular destination sites. (i.e. Whenever I browse 'www.playboy.com' use pseudonym 'playboyfan' and routing profile 'Fast routing, no rules except exit hop cannot be in the following Muslim countries'). > >2) It is very possible government spy agencies will secretly arrange >for spy friendly ISP's to obtain your software and setup FREEDOM >servers in their nation. Then, they could write or modify code to >intercept and decrypt incoming packets of data BEFORE it hit the >FREEDOM servers. Can you write secret "test" code or test packets >such that you can send out packets from your Canadian headquarters to >test all FREEDOM servers deployed worldwide to detect all forms of >tampering, and if detected, send emergency emails and post on >newgroups the violators ? > This is essentially the hostile root/hostile node attack. Ultimately we have decided that protecting against a hostile root or node is infeasible. (i.e. Whatever attempts we make to make it impossible to have a hostile node, do not justify themselves because they are not completely effective) We do employ some simple protections to try and avoid amateur hostile nodes (Valid binary checking, periodic unannounced audits for nodes) but a sophisticated and well financed attacker could and most likely will operate a number of nodes in the network. To compromise the identity behind a pseudonym, an attacker would have to control or collude with all the nodes you use in a particular AnonymousIP route. Since a user by default uses three hops, and can configure specific nodes that they trust this reduces the possibility of a single node or a groups of nodes being able to work to compromise a pseudonyms privacy. (i.e. If you decide based on reputation to trust Zero-Knowledge, you might enter into your preferences to always use at least one Zero-Knowledge server in your AnonymousIP routers. This means that as long as that Zero-Knowledge server does not have a hostile root or that we have not been subverted that your identity is protected. You may choose to chain trusted servers (i.e. Use Zero-Knowledge, TOAD.COM and EFF.ORG servers (TOAD.COM; EFF.ORG are just examples - They are not to imply that they are currently committed to operate Freedom nodes) for all my anonymous routes.) Also because Freedom node operators are rewarded financially to operate Freedom nodes, we've found incredible interest in the ISP community to operate Freedom nodes. This will help to increase the total number of Freedom nodes in the network, making it that much harder for a hostile attacker to operate a large percentage of nodes in the network. (i.e. 'If there are only 10 nodes in the network, running 40% of them is quite easy. If there are 700 nodes in the network and a user only needs 3 of them, owning enough of those 700 nodes to have a reasonable chance at always being all 3 hops is less likely.) >3) Curiously, what if Canadian legislators / politicians create laws >similar to what the Dutch parliment enacted recently ? Would you move >your entire company to another nation ? Or, would you have to move the >FREEDOM net server headquarters to another nation ? It seems very >important initially to setup FREEDOM servers in as many nations as >possible to counteract such attempts to destroy the right to internet >privacy. Canada has proven quite committed to the privacy of its citizens and has demonstrated its support for Canada's growing cryptography industries. Many leading cryptography companies are now setup in Canada and able to export strong cryptography without restriction. We believe that Canada will remain a friendly country in which to develop our products and distribute them around the world. In the event that the US or another country were able to convince Canada to ban anonymity/pseudonymity online; or make it illegal to provide these services there are plans and provisions we have made to ensure we are able to continue to provide service to our customers. Because of the distributed nature of the system, it would take a global effort among all countries to ban and make Freedom illegal (A nice soundbyte waiting to happen ;) The US would have a difficult time (According to our lawyers) passing a law making anonymity/pseudonymity illegal or banning the domestic use of encryption products like Freedom. Ultimately this will be another example of 'the cats out of the bag'. There will most likely be some fights because this will be the first time that completely pseudonymous digital identities will be accessible to the layman; or average Internet user - and the technical sophistication of AnonymousIP with pseudonymous identities mapped on top will pose a serious challenge for some government initiatives. But we will be attempting to educate law enforcement; government officials that this tool will be the primary and most effective way of protecting children online (From stalkers and aggressive marketing profiles); protecting privacy (Both archived histories that we cannot separate ourselves from; multiple roles we have that are difficult to separate online right now and privacy from aggressive marketing) and protecting free speech and human rights on a global level. For this education process to be effective, we will need to help government understand that there are better ways of using traditional law enforcement techniques to accomplish their goals. This is the same process that many of the cypherpunks; privacy advocacy groups and lobbyists have already been doing and we will work on supporting those efforts. Initially we will have servers deployed in MANY countries and we have an aggressive marketing plan to ensure that we have high penetration of servers very quickly after we release. > >4) I urge you to try and think ahead, designing as many >countermeasures as possible into the first initial version of client >software, making it as easy as possible for users to circumvent any >harmful measures taken by the evil forces of the dark side. We have designed the system to be as versatile as possible and as hard to shut down as possible. We have included provisions (Might not be in version 1, but can be applied very quickly after) to circumvent country level firewalls or proxy servers so that countries that attempt to ban all IP traffic to the Freedom network will encounter many difficulties. While this is not likely in most North American or European countries (Although the US many attempt it when they implement ISP blocking provisions for offshore gambling sites (Online Gambling Act)and realize that Freedom clients can bypass ISP political filtering of sites) in certain other countries around the world, the initial reaction will be to ban Freedom and add it to a list of filtered sites. Since some of these countries are the ones that have citizens who in the most urgent need of unlimited access to Free Speech, total privacy for their browsing and online activities and the ability to communicate secretly - we've made it very difficult for any country to ban our traffic. > >5) A PARADOX awaits - Serious privacy advocates will want to "test" >your system. One such test would be to sign up and operate as as a >spammer, and use your system to pass on SPAM, or what about malicious >hackers ? If that person is identified or revealed by you, then your >system has been revealed as not a true anonymous system, and there >will be a media feeding frenzy exposing it. But if it IS a truely >anonymous system, you will have no way to identify and locate spammers >or malicious hackers. The SPAM dilemma was one of the more difficult ones that we faced in designing the project. We were aware that if we could not manage the abuse (Spam, harassment, Anonymous hack attempts) then we would quickly become 'blackballed' for most services and a few bad apples could affect all of our legitimate users. We could not have the option of knowing who to hold responsible for abuse because that would include our holding some sort of identity escrow which we specifically did not want and designed the system to make impossible. The alternative we decided on was to invest significantly on making abuse easier through other networks than the Freedom network. Some of the ways we've accomplished this; - -Designed the entire system around untraceable pseudonymity as opposed to anonymity. This re-enforces the reputation capital aspect of having a pseudonym. In general we hope this will promote people who have made an investment in a pseudonym (Both in time, and money) to be careful about how badly the affect the online reputation of that pseudonym. - -Associated a direct cost with a pseudonym By having a cost associated with a pseudonym, many people who would normally take liberties in abusing Internet communication will/do hesitate, since there is the potential of losing that financial investment. - -Forcing 'nymserver' like features of having all outgoing e-mail pass through the Freedom server, signed by both the pseudonym and the Freedom network key to avoid forged spam baiting mail. - -Allowing end users to have destination blocking per recipient and making it easy for them to request not to receive e-mail from a particular pseudonym. (In cases of harassment) - -Developing sophisticated SPAM blocking systems to make our network VERY VERY unfriendly to pseudonyms attempting to send SPAM. (i.e. Max per day recipients limits of 500 or so people; with the limit automatically adjusting to deal with averages of all pseudonyms and number of confirmed spam complaints.) Bulk mailers will have the option of purchasing a more expensive pseudonym that removes any daily limits for recipients but has strict cancellation policies for unsolicited spam (This enables an underground Zine that publishes anonymously to sent out an edition every Friday to 15,000 people; but if someone buys one of the bulk mailing pseudonyms (Around $500+/year) and abuses by sending a massive SPAM we will confirm the spam complaints (Based on digital sig on headers and message) and then have the right to cancel the pseudonyms (Resulting in the Spammer paying $500+ to deliver one spam to many people then losing that pseudonym.) This makes it cheaper to SPAM from other free services or open mail relay systems thereby diverting hard core spammers from making the Freedom network their home. - -Anonymous Telnet host blocking (Site administrators can work with us to block anonymous telnet to their sites) allowing certain sites such as MUDs and Telnet BBS's to allow access but corporate/university sites to restrict access for anonymous telnet. We hope with these and other systems we have taken the time to develop it will help mitigate or reduce the potential of a few malicious users to harm the legitimate Freedom users. Ultimately we have only once choice in dealing with abuse, canceling the pseudonym which will cause a financial loss for someone as well as killing that 'nym and any reputation it has gathered. The terms under which we will cancel a pseudonym will be very clearly posted, and the only other time is when a government agency (Canadian) issues us a court order to turn off a pseudonym. There is NO MEANS possible for us to reveal the identity of a user (Thereby avoiding some of the Penet.Fi style attacks). > >6) It seems unfortunate that some of the larger, "holier than thou, >self righteous" worldwide ISP's (like AOL) will be frustrated at >FREEDOM net not being able to identify who the spammers or hackers >are, and then BLOCK FREEDOM net packets from going through their >servers, starting little electronic wars. These "blocking wars" have >already occured from time to time. Hopefully with the abuse management tools we've made available we will cut off any attempts to block or ban our service. If certain domains/admins feel they still wish to ban Freedom traffic we would work with them to address whatever concerns we can to help restore good routing relations, but in the end it will be up to our users to fight for FREEDOM, if anyone attempts to take it away. Strong letter writing campaigns, boycotts and media attention should all help pressure certain organizations to deal with us on any complaints or issues they have and not treat pseudonyms as second class online citizens. Ultimately this service and peoples pseudonymous digital identities will be as valuable as they make them. By using them frequently, lobbying sites to support pseudonymous identities (For instance for one click authentication and login to web sites), and making sure the get ALL their friends to use pseudonyms then it becomes REALLY difficult to shut the service down or silence millions of users. If there is a small uptake and we only have 100,000 pseudonyms it would be possible to shut the service down without a lot of noise (We'll make as much as we can, but ultimately our users have to help). With 12 million pseudonyms registered and all of them making as much noise as possible to fight any attempts to ban Freedom, there will by a lot more chance of making Freedom completely ubiquitous. > >7) It would really be useful for your staff to address questions/ >concerns like these and others by creating pages regarding these >matters on your website. Hopefully, you are on some of the lists that I am responding to your e-mail with. Most of this information will be posted in time to our web site, but the FAQ's and whitepapers describing most of this are not ready for publication on the web yet. > > >Anonymously Yours, > >P.S. I will only feel comfortable revealing my anonymous self to you >by way of my psuedonym, when I sign up with your service, which I hope >to do as soon as FREEDOM net is ready. > > Thanks for the interest and comments. I hope I've been able to answer most of your questions. ________________________________________________________________________ _ Austin Hill Zero-Knowledge Systems Inc. President Montreal, Quebec Phone: 514.286.2636 Ext. 226 Fax: 514.286.2755 E-mail: austin(a)zks.net http://www.zks.net Zero Knowledge Systems Inc. - Nothing Personal Changing the world with Zero Knowledge PGP Fingerprints 2.6.3i = 3F 42 A2 0D AF 78 20 ED A2 BB AD BE 8B 40 5E 64 5.5.3i = 77 1E 62 21 B3 F0 EB C0 AA 6C 65 30 56 CA BA C4 94 26 EC 00 keys available at http://www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/pub_key_default.asp ________________________________________________________________________ _ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use <http://www.pgpi.com> iQA/AwUBNkS3qlbKusSUJuwAEQJzNACg7TTSDuipjmCrT78WMWKskdOkzgQAnAnq R4ka2Ne+CMK4FmyAt6qfExJu =paSA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IP: Crunch Time for Y2K Suppliers
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Crunch Time for Y2K Suppliers Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:22:46 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Wired http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/16035.html?3 Crunch Time for Y2K Suppliers by Declan McCullagh 4:00 a.m.5.Nov.98.PST The phones are already ringing when Steve Portela arrives at his office every morning. Orders are piling up as they never have before. Walton Feed, his bulk food company, doubled its workforce this year to 125 people and a new warehouse will open in late November. It isn't enough. Orders placed today won't be delivered for six months. "I'm falling further behind every day," Portela complains. The source of Portela's woes? Widespread worries about the Year 2000 computer problem. The looming bug has sent thousands of Americans scrambling to load up on bulk food, generators, solar cells, and gold coins. Some of the products, if ordered today, won't arrive on a customer's doorstep until spring 1999. And delays are expected to grow. Spikes in demand are nothing new to Portela. The Mount St. Helens eruption, the Los Angeles riots, and the last major California earthquake all spurred people into grabbing their credit cards and phoning Walton Feed. From a perch 6,000 feet up in the Idaho mountains, the company has grown into one of the nation's largest bulk food suppliers. But nervous jitters caused by those disruptions are peanuts compared to growing fears that Y2K will snarl electric power, telecommunications, and the banking system. "Add it all together, and Y2K surpasses everything," Portela says. This time it's not just survivalists stockpiling sealed barrels from Walton's extensive selection of wheat, rice, and other dried foods. "It's common everyday folks, people just like you," Portela says of his customers. "We're not talking about any radical people." Other food companies have similar bellyaches. "The demand is amazing -- 99.99 percent of the people we deal with are preparing for Y2K," says Tamera Toups, office manager for Montana-based Peace of Mind Essentials." Unlike Walton's, Peace of Mind Essentials doesn't boast a storeroom full of towering bins of grain. Instead, it places orders that are later filled by warehouses. Toups estimates volume has leapt 500 percent this year. "If anyone doesn't have an order in by the end of April, their chances of getting it before 2000 are pretty slim," she said. "The window might be even smaller than that." You'll still be able to buy bulk food after next April, of course. America Inc., a food exporter, has plenty of it. But Walton Feed makes a niche product prized by Y2Kers: sealed 50-pound drums of food with the oxygen removed, a process that delays spoilage and eliminates grain-munching critters. A year's supply tips the scales at 600 pounds and costs $300, plus shipping. Trying to procure a diesel generator, on the other hand, is shaping up to be increasingly difficult. Loren Day, president of China Diesel Imports, spends a good portion of each day puzzling out how to crank out more and more generators to meet a swell of Y2K orders. Shipments of his company's most popular 8,000-watt model are already running six months behind. "Orders are up about 1,000 percent since the first of the year," Day says. "And the amount of people who will want a generator now is nothing compared to the amount of people who will want a generator later." Day, whose 50-person company is the largest US distributor of diesel generators, usually sells to rural customers who live beyond the reach of electric power lines. "Now with this Y2K thing it's gone crazy," he said. He said he now has the both of the world's largest generator manufacturers running at near capacity to satisfy US demand. Why don't Y2Kers simply pick up a $500 gasoline generator at Home Depot or their local hardware store? Day believes they're so worried about the oft-criticized reliability of the portable units, that they're willing to pay diesel prices, starting at $1,750. "The main thing is the longevity and fuel economy of the diesel," he said. Diesel fuel is an oil, so it keeps longer than gasoline, which spoils after a year. Those Y2K consumers who dread running out of fuel are also turning to renewable energy. "We're totally swamped by Y2K," said Laura Myers, a sales representative for solar equipment distributor Sunelco. "We're beginning to see some lead times on some of our products. By next spring it's going to be insane." Sales at the Hamilton, Montana-based Sunelco have tripled because of Y2K, Myers said. She predicts that orders placed after next spring won't arrive until 2000. "It's been a huge increase," said Davy Rippner, a vice president at Alternative Energy Engineering, a California-based firm. "The things that we're out of and we can't keep in stock are the Baygen [hand-cranked] radios and the Russian-made hand-dynamo flashlights." Then there are the full-blown home solar systems, which start at $3,000 and can range up to $30,000. "A lot of small installers around the country that have been struggling to make a living are now booked for months in advance," said Karen Perez, who publishes Home Power magazine with her husband Richard from the couple's off-the-grid home outside of Ashland, Oregon. The Perez family won't do anything to prepare for Y2K -- except spend time handling the sharp uptick in recent subscriptions to their magazine. "We're six miles from the nearest phone and power line," she said. "As far as Y2K with us, the only thing that I'm planning on doing personally is getting a stash of non-hybrid seeds." Non-hybrid seeds are particularly prized by Y2Kers who stay up nights worrying that potential widespread computer crashes could disrupt food distribution. Most hardware store seeds are hybrid varieties. They grow well, but they can be sterile. Since seeds from hybrid plants may not germinate, some Y2Kers are stockpiling the non-hybrid varieties. "[We've been] getting calls about bulk seeds and buying in quantities and packing them for storage for some period of time," said Dave Smith, vice president of Seeds of Change in Santa Fe, New Mexico. "We definitely think that there will be an increase in sales because of this problem." Burt Blumert doesn't need to speculate. The Burlingame, California, company he owns, Camino Coin, has seen sales of precious metal coins double from last year because of Y2K jitters. "It's widespread now," Blumert said. In May, Blumert began to run ads for a "Y2K Life Preserver," a $3,500 collection of coins that includes British gold sovereigns, silver dollars, and pre-1965 silver dimes and quarters. He markets the collection as a kind of financial Y2K insurance policy, just in case banking glitches or more widespread problems call for a permanent currency. "When people buy gold, they're dropping out," he said. "This is the ultimate dropout, when the institutions themselves aren't working." Copyright © 1994-98 Wired Digital Inc. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. 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IP: Discover Alien Life With Your PC And SETI
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Richard Sampson <rjsa(a)sprintmail.com> Subject: IP: Discover Alien Life With Your PC And SETI Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:09:03 -0500 To: "ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com" <ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ****Discover Alien Life With Your PC And SETI TOKYO, JAPAN, 1998 NOV 5 (Newsbytes) -- By Martyn Williams, Newsbytes. The SETI@home project, which hopes to harness the idle processing power of thousands of desktop personal computers to help in the search for intelligent life in the universe, is back on track with an April 1999 launch date. The project was launched in mid 1997 and was scheduled to begin operations early this year (Newsbytes, August 18, 1997) but the launch was delayed after funding problems slowed research and development work. Now, with new funding and hardware donated by Sun Microsystems, the project is back on track. Hoping to attract the millions of computer users that believe in the existence of intelligent life in space, the project will be based around a special screensaver. Like any screensaver, the software kicks in when you aren't using your PC but unlike other software, the SETI@home application won't present you with a banal selection of flying windows of swimming fish. Instead, it will be doing something much more useful: analyzing radio frequency spectrum data captured by the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico. The analysis is searching for a signal out of all the noise from space - a signal that may reveal the existence of intelligent life. The project team estimates that once 50,000 PCs are enrolled in the project, the SETI@home program will rival other similar SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence) programs that are looking for signals from space and may turn up signals that would otherwise be missed. The program works like this: data is collected from SERENDIP, a SETI project based at UC Berkeley, on magnetic tape and transferred to SETI@home servers. This data is then distributed to participating PC users as they log onto the Internet and the data is analyzed on their PCs. Once finished, the results are returned to the project servers via the Internet. First tests of the system, with 100 volunteers, has just begun and the project hopes to make available the first generation SETI@home screensavers in April 1999. These will be available for Windows, Apple and Unix based platforms. What's in it for the user? Apart from helping science, the team says, "There's a small but captivating possibility that your computer will detect the faint murmur of a civilization beyond Earth." For more information on the project, how to offer your spare computer capacity and how to donate money, check the SETI@home Web page at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu . Numerous foreign language versions of the page are also available. Reported By Newsbytes News Network, http://www.newsbytes.com -0- (19981105/WIRES ONLINE/) News provided by COMTEX. [!BUSINESS] [!HIGHTECH] [!INFOTECH] [!PUBLIC+COMPANIES] [!WALL+STREET] [COMPUTER] [HARDWARE] [INTERNET] [JAPAN] [MONEY] [NBY] [NEWS] [NEWSGRID] [PUERTO+RICO] [RADIO] [RESEARCH] [SCIENCE] [SOFTWARE] [TOKYO] -- ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: TOTALITARIAN TECHNOLOGY
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry(a)gte.net> Subject: IP: TOTALITARIAN TECHNOLOGY Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:47:59 -0500 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com from: http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/50a.htm=20 TOTALITARIAN TECHNOLOGY -- The Truth is Closer Than Fiction --------------------------------- By SUSAN BRYCE=20 Over the last decade, Hollywood has sensitised us to totalitarian technology. Block buster movies portray our heroes and heroines using the weapons of the new millennium. Militarised police forces keep citizens safe; android warrior personnel, part human, part robot are gainfully employed as global peacekeepers; prisoners are incarcerated in high tech electronic jails, controlled with implanted microchips, while the free population is kept under surveillance through the use of biometric identity systems.=20 Science fiction perhaps? Reality yes! Much of what we see on the big screen is not the latest fantasy of Hollywood script writers, but is based on fact. Any film maker wanting a picture of the future need look no further than existing military technology and research. =20 A recent report published by the European Parliament, "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control", shows just how far these new technologies have come, and how they are being actively employed against citizens in countries across the globe.=20 The report warns of "an overall technological and decision drift towards world wide convergence of nearly all the technologies of political control", including identity recognition; denial; surveillance systems based on neural networks; new arrest and restraint methods and the emergence of so called `less lethal' weapons.=20 Developments in surveillance technology, innovations in crowd control weapons, new prison control systems, the rise of more powerful restraint, torture, killing and execution technologies and the role of privatised enterprises in promoting such technologies pose a grave threat to our immediate and future freedoms.=20 Trade in Technologies of Control=20 Cutting edge developments made by the Western military-industrial complex are providing invaluable support to various governments throughout the world. The report "Big Brother Incorporated", by surveillance watchdog Privacy International, presents a detailed analysis of the international trade in surveillance technology. =20 Privacy International says it is concerned about "the flow of sophisticated computer-based technology from developed countries to developing countries -- and particularly to non-democratic regimes where surveillance technologies become tools of political control." =20 The international trade in surveillance technology (known as the Repression Trade), involves the manufacture and export of technologies of political control. More than seventy per cent of companies manufacturing and exporting surveillance technology also export arms, chemical weapons or military hardware.=20 The justification advanced by the companies involved in this trade is identical to the justification advanced in the arms trade -- i.e.: that the technology is neutral. Privacy International's view is that in the absence of legal protection, the technology can never be neutral. =20 As "Big Brother Incorporated" points out, "even those technologies intended for `benign' uses rapidly develop more sinister purposes. The UK manufactured `Scoot' traffic control cameras in Beijing's Tianamen Square were automatically employed as surveillance cameras during the student demonstrations. Images captured from the cameras were broadcast over Chinese television to ensure that the `offending' students were captured." =20 Privacy International cites numerous cases where this type of technology has been obtained for the express purpose of political and social control...=20 -- ICL (International Computers Limited) provided the technological infrastructure to establish the South African automated Passbook system, upon which much of the function of the apartheid regime depended. =20 -- In the 1980s Israeli company Tadiram developed and exported the technology for the computerised death list used by the Guatemalan police. =20 -- Reported human rights abuses in Indonesia -- particularly those affecting East Timor -- would not be possible without the strategic and technological support of Western companies. Among those companies supplying the Indonesian police and military with surveillance and targeting technology are Morpho Systems (France), De la Ruue Printak (UK), EEV Night Vision (UK), ICL (UK), Marconi Radar and Control Systems (UK), Pyser (UK), Siemens Plessey Defense Systems (UK), Rockwell International Corporation (USA) and SWS Security (USA). =20 Tools of Repression for 'Democratic' States=20 We should not forget that the same companies supplying regimes with repression technology, also supply `democratic' states with their totalitarian tools. =20 Leutcher Associates Inc. of Massachusetts supplies and services American gas chambers, as well as designing, supplying and installing electric chairs, auto-injection systems and gallows. The Leutcher lethal injection system costs approximately $30,000 and is the cheapest system the company sells. Their electrocution systems cost =A335,000 and a gallows would cost approximately $85,000. More and more US states are opting for Leutcher's $100,000 "execution trailer" which comes complete with a lethal injection machine, a steel holding cell for an inmate, and separate areas for witnesses, chaplain, prison workers and medical personnel. Some companies in Europe have even offered to supply gallows.=20 In the 1970's, J.A. Meyer of the US Defense Department suggested a countrywide network of transceivers for monitoring all prisoners on parole, via an irremovable transponder implant. The idea was that parolees movements could be continuously checked and the system would facilitate certain areas or hours to be out of bounds, whilst having the economic advantage of cutting down on the costs of clothing and feeding the prisoner. If prisoners go missing, the police could automatically home in on their last position. =20 Meyer's vision came into operational use in America in the mid 1980's, when some private prisons started to operate a transponder based parole system. The system has now spread into Canada and Europe where it is known as electronic tagging. Whilst the logic of tagging is difficult to resist, critics argue that the recipients of this technology appear not to be offenders who would have been imprisoned, but rather low risk offenders who are most likely to be released into the community anyway. Because of this, the system is not cheaper since the authorities gain the added expense of supplying monitoring devices to offenders who would have been released anyway. Electronic tagging is however beneficial to the companies who sell such systems. Tagging also has a profitable role inside prisons in the US and in some prisons, notably, DeKalb County Jail near Atlanta, where all prisoners are bar coded.=20 'Non-Lethal' Technology of Control=20 The increasing militarisation of police forces throughout the world is reflected in the spread of "less lethal" weapons such as pepper gas. Benignly referred to by the media as "capsicum spray", pepper gas was recently used by Australian police in the state of Victoria to subdue a man. According to media reports, the Victorian police also used "a weapon they don't want to disclose". =20 The effects of pepper gas are far more severe than most people realise. It is known to cause temporary blindness, a burning sensation of the skin which lasts from 45 to 60 minutes, upper body spasms which force a person to bend forward and uncontrollable coughing making it difficult to breathe or speak for between 3 to 15 minutes.=20 For those with asthma or subject to restraining techniques which restrict the breathing passages, there is a risk of death. The Los Angeles Times has reported at least 61 deaths associated with police use of pepper spray since 1990 in the USA, and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has documented 27 deaths in custody of people sprayed with pepper gas in California alone, since 1993.=20 The US Army concluded in a 1993 Aberdeen Proving Ground study that pepper spray could cause "Mutagenic effects, carcinogenic effects, sensitization, cardiovascular and pulmonary toxicity, neuro-toxicity, as well as possible human fatalities." =20 The existing arsenal of weapons designed for public order and control will soon be joined by a second generation of kinetic, chemical, optico-acoustic, and microwave weapons, adding to the disabling and paralysing technologies already available. Much of the initial work on these new technologies has been undertaken in US nuclear laboratories such as Oak Ridge, Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos. The European Parliament Report "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control" lists a Pandora's box of new technologies including:=20 -- Ultra-sound generators, which cause disorientation, vomiting and involuntary defecation, disturbing the ear system which controls balance and inducing nausea. The system which uses two speakers can target individuals in a crowd. =20 -- Visual stimulus and illusion techniques such as high intensity strobes which pulse in the critical epileptic fit-inducing flashing frequency and holograms used to project active camouflage. =20 -- Reduced energy kinetic weapons. Variants on the bean bag philosophy which ostensibly will result in no damage (similar claims were once made about plastic bullets). =20 -- New disabling, calmative, sleep inducing agents mixed with DMSO which enables the agent to quickly cross the skin barrier and an extensive range of pain causing, paralysing and foul-smelling area-denial chemicals. Some of these are chemically engineered variants of the heroin molecule. They work extremely rapidly, one touch and disablement follows. Yet one person's tranquillisation may be another's lethal dose. =20 -- Microwave and acoustic disabling systems. =20 -- Human capture nets which can be laced with chemical irritant or electrified to pack an extra disabling punch. =20 -- Lick `em and stick `em technology such as the Sandia National Laboratory's foam gun which expands to between 35-50 times its original volume. Its extremely sticky, gluing together any target's feet and hands to the pavement. =20 -- Aqueous barrier foam which can be laced with pepper spray. =20 -- Blinding laser weapons and isotrophic radiator shells which use superheated gaseous plasma to produce a dazzling burst of laser like light. =20 -- Thermal guns which incapacitate through a wall by raising body temperature to 107 degrees. =20 -- Magnetosphere gun which delivers what feels like a blow to the head. =20 "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control" says "we are no longer at a theoretical stage with these weapons. US companies are already piloting new systems, lobbying hard and where possible, laying down potentially lucrative patents." For example, last year New Scientist reported that the American Technology Corporation (ATC) of Poway, California has used what it calls acoustical heterodyning technology to target individuals in a crowd with infra-sound to pinpoint an individual 200-300 metres away. The system can also project sonic holograms which can conjure audio messages out of thin air so just one person hears them. Meanwhile, Jane's reported that the US Army Research Laboratory has produced a variable velocity rifle for lethal or non lethal use -- a new twist to flexible response. Other companies are promoting robots for use in riot and prison control.=20 Advances in Biometric Identification=20 Through the inevitability of gradualness, repression technology, in the form of biometric identity systems, is permeating our every day life. Biometry involves using a physical characteristic such as a fingerprint, palm print, iris or retina scan to identify individuals. These unique identity charact-eristics are digitally stored on a computer system for verification. This way, the identity of each person can be compared to the stored original. Christians will be interested to note that with biometric systems, the original print is stored not as a `picture' but as an algorithm. The number of your name will be literally in your hand (thumb print) or in your forehead (eyes).=20 Biometric identification is not something that we just see at the movies. It is here, it is with us now. Governments in Australia, the USA and the UK are planning its widespread introduction by 2005. =20 Both the Dutch and Australian public rejected plans for a national information and identification scheme en masse several years ago, but have reacted more passively to equally intrusive (but less blatant) schemes in the 1990's.=20 Uses of the Social Security Number in the USA, the Social Insurance Number in Canada, the Tax File Number in Australia, the SOFI Number in the Netherlands and the Austrian Social Security Number have been extended progressively to include taxation, unemployment support, pensioner benefits and, in some cases, health and higher education. Functional creep is rampant.=20 Large scale government computer based schemes have been shown in several countries to be much less cost-effective than was originally estimated. Years after the governments of the United States and Australia developed schemes to match public sector data, there is still no clear evidence that the strategy has succeeded in achieving its goals. The audit agencies of both federal governments have cast doubt that computer matching schemes deliver savings. =20 A nationwide survey by Columbia University last year reported that 83% of people approve of the use of finger imaging. Biometrics is being embraced on a global scale. The Australian company, Fingerscan, a subsidiary of Californian based Identix Inc, recently won one of the biggest bank contracts for biometric security in the world. Fingerscan is working with the Bank of Central Asia in Jakarta, Indonesia to replace numeric passwords for employees at 5000 branches with fingerprint based system access.=20 Fingerscan also has the world's largest application of biometrics in the servicing of automated teller machines. In conjunction with contractor Armaguard, which services ATMs for Australian banks, many ATMs are now unlocked by the representative's fingerprint. The representative brings a portable scanning device that plugs into the back of the ATM and connects the bank's server which grants him or her admittance. =20 The US government has a deadline of 1999 to implement electronic benefits processing for welfare recipients, but this may be delayed to accommodate biometrics, which is currently being piloted in five American states. The Australian government will introduce a biometric identity system for welfare recipients by 2005.=20 Blue Cross and Blue Shield in the USA have plans to introduce nationwide fingerprinting for hospital patients. This may be extended into other medical applications. The Jamaican Government is planning to introduce electronic thumb scanning to control elections. Social Security verification using biometrics is used in Spain and South Africa. In 1994, the UK Department of Social Security developed a proposal to introduce a national identification card, which recommended a computerised database of the hand-prints of all 30 million people receiving government income assistance. =20 Big Brother's International Network of Surveillance=20 Biometric identification is the technology of today and the future. It is not a matter of if, but when, a global network of computers will link all stored biometric images in a central location, managed by a collective of international authorities. =20 In 1994, under the leadership of US Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a consortium of the world's leading companies formed the Global Information Infrastructure Commission (GIIC). Headed by the president of Mitsubishi, the chair of EDS, and the vice chair of Siemens Corporation, the GIIC intends to create a conglomerate of interests powerful enough to subsume government interest in the regulation of biometric and other technologies. The effort is being funded to a large extent by the World Bank.=20 Governments in 26 countries are, at this moment, monitoring and cooperating with project FAST (Future Automated Screening for Travelers). FAST was first piloted in 1993 by US immigration authorities when a new lane at New York's John F. Kennedy airport was opened. The technology for the system is known as INPASS (Immigration and Natur-alization Service Passenger Accelerated Service System) which is a biometric identification system used to expedite passengers through customs at international airports in as little as 20 seconds.=20 Applicants for registration with FAST are interviewed, and identity confirmed. Hand prints are taken, converted to a template and stored digitally on a smart card. Once the last of five green lights appear at the tips of the fingers, the glass exit door opens and the passenger continues to the baggage claim and customs zone. The system is currently a voluntary trial for frequent travellers to and from the USA who are US or Canadian nationals. =20 With new technology, travelers can rest assured that their security is always in good hands. The US Militech Corporation has developed a Passive Millimeter Wave Imaging system, which can scan people from up to 12 feet away and see through clothing to detect concealed items such as weapons, packages and other contraband. Variations of this through-clothing human screening are under development by companies such as the US Raytheon Corporation, and will be an irresistible addition to international airports everywhere.=20 Once upon a time, surveillance was targeted at certain groups and individuals. In our time, surveillance occurs en masse. Much of the `harmless' computer based technology necessary for our daily lives could actually be used to keep the entire population under surveillance. =20 Telephone systems lend themselves to a dual role as a national interceptions network, according to "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control". For example, the message switching system used on digital exchanges like System X in the UK, supports an Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN) Protocol. This allows digital devices, e.g. faxes, to share the system with existing lines. The ISDN subset is defined in their documents as "Signaling CCITT"-series interface for ISDN access. =20 What is not widely known is that built-in to the international CCITT protocol is the ability to take phones `off hook' and listen into conversations occurring near the phone, without the user being aware that it is happening. This effectively means that a national dial up telephone tapping capacity is built into these systems from the start. Further, the digital technology required to pinpoint mobile phone users for incoming calls means that all mobile phones in a country when activated, are mini-tracking devices.=20 The issues surrounding the uncontrolled and unregulated spread of tyrannical technology are immediate and ongoing. The technologies of repression that are trialed in so-called non-democratic countries are now being aggressively marketed in the West, while Hitler's Germany becomes a vague memory. It is up to us to do what ever we can to stop the insidious spread of this technology, and to demand the right to choose whether we participate in the biometric system or not. We should ask ourselves... who will heed our cry for help once these technologies are fully implemented? =20 REFERENCES=20 Davies, Simon, "Touching Big Brother", Information Technology People, Vol 7, No 4, 1994=20 Elllerman, Sarah, "The Rise of Tempest", Internet Underground Magazine, June 1996.=20 European Parliament, Scientific and Technical Operations Assessment, 1998, "An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control", available at http://jya.com/stoa-atpc.com=20 Jane's US Military R & D, "Human Computer Interface, Vol 1, Issue 3 1997=20 O'Sullivan, Olara, "Biometrics comes to Life", http://www.banking.com/aba/cover_0197.htm=20 Privacy International, 1995, "Big Brother Incorporated", http://www.privacy.org/pi=20 US Scientific Advisory Board, "New World Vistas", the proceedings of Fiftieth Anniversary Symposium of the USAF SAB, November 10, 1994, (republished by International Committee for the Convention Against Offensive Microwave Weapons).=20 Susan Bryce is an investigative journalist and researcher whose interests include issues which affect individual freedom, environmental health, surveillance technology and global politics. She can be contacted c/- Mapleton Post Office, QLD 4560 **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: ISPI Clips 6.10: Washington to Seek Public's Advice on EU Privacy Laws
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 6.10: Washington to Seek Public's Advice on EU Privacy Laws Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:29:18 -0800 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 6.10: Washington to Seek Public's Advice on EU Privacy Laws News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Thursday November 5, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: Fox News, November 4, 1998 http://www.foxnews.com U.S. Negotiators Ask For Public Feedback in Talks With Europe Over Privacy Law http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/wires2/1104/n_ap_1104_334 .sml NEW YORK Raising the stakes in its talks with Europe over a new privacy law there, the Commerce Department on Wednesday publicly reaffirmed a laissez-faire approach toward protecting personal privacy that remains at odds on key positions taken by European negotiators. The Commerce Department released a statement for public feedback that details its basic position in the talks. The talks attempt to resolve deep differences over a sweeping European privacy measure that has the potential to disrupt some commerce with the United States. The law took effect on Oct. 26, but sanctions were suspended while the talks go on. U.S. firms from global drug makers to direct marketers doing business in Europe fear the new directive could bar them from using customers' confidential information for everything from valuable scientific research to junk mail, stifling business commerce. In its position paper, the U.S. reiterated its view that U.S. companies should not be forced to give people access to personal information about themselves. In addition, companies should have the option to choose an independent industry group to police its privacy policies, instead of a government body, as required by the European law. "For now, we're trying to get (Europe's) reaction to these principles themselves,'' said David Aaron, under secretary of Commerce. Aaron said the United States wants to give companies "safe harbors'' to satisfy privacy protection demands. Some experts said the government's seeking of public comment could suggest that the United States may seek to modify its position if enough people favor the European approach. "This is significant because it is the first time that the Commerce Department has asked for public comment on its negotiating position with the European Union,'' said Joel Reidenberg, a law professor at Fordham University and an expert on U.S.-Europe relations. A Commerce Department spokeswoman said the principles would be posted on its Web site. © 1998, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox Market Wire. --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). To receive "ISPI Clips" on a regular bases (up to 3 - 8 clips per day) send the following message "Please enter [Your Name] into the ISPI Clips list: [Your e-mail address]" to: ISPIClips(a)ama-gi.com . The Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) is a small contributor-funded organization based in Victoria, British Columbia (Canada). ISPI operates on a not-for-profit basis, accepts no government funding and takes a global perspective. ISPI's mandate is to conduct & promote interdisciplinary research into electronic, personal and financial privacy with a view toward helping ordinary people understand the degree of privacy they have with respect to government, industry and each other and to likewise inform them about techniques to enhance their privacy. But, none of this can be accomplished without your kind and generous financial support. If you are concerned about the erosion of your privacy in general, won't you please help us continue this important work by becoming an "ISPI Supporter" or by taking out an institute Membership? We gratefully accept all contributions: Less than $60 ISPI Supporter $60 - $99 Primary ISPI Membership (1 year) $100 - $300 Senior ISPI Membership (2 years) More than $300 Executive Council Membership (life) Your ISPI "membership" contribution entitles you to receive "The ISPI Privacy Reporter" (our bi-monthly 12 page hard-copy newsletter in multi-contributor format) for the duration of your membership. For a contribution form with postal instructions please send the following message "ISPI Contribution Form" to ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com . We maintain a strict privacy policy. Any information you divulge to ISPI is kept in strict confidence. It will not be sold, lent or given away to any third party. **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: ISPI Clips 6.17: FCC Accepting Comments on Mandatory Cell Phone Tracking
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 6.17: FCC Accepting Comments on Mandatory Cell Phone Tracking Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:26:49 -0800 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 6.17: FCC Accepting Comments on Mandatory Cell Phone Tracking News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Friday November 6, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part One: This From: Coalition for Constitutional Liberties, Weekly Update for 11/06/98 Volume I, Number 37 http://www.freecongress.org/cfcl/latest.htm Comment Period for CALEA Wiretapping Regulations Announced The Federal Communications Commission announced this week that it would be accepting comments in response to its Notice of Proposed Rule Making until December 14th. The Commission proposed requiring cellular and other wireless phone companies to track the location of their customers, identifying the cell site at the beginning and end of every call. Weekly Update readers and organizations are encouraged to submit their written comments to the FCC: Federal Communications Commission 1919 M St. Washington, DC 20554 Re: Docket # 97-213 The Center for Democracy and Technology has set up a website for those interested in filing comments: http://www.cdt.org/action/filing.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Part Two: This From: The Center for Democracy and Technology, October 28, 1998 http://www.cdt.org FCC PROPOSES LOCATION TRACKING FOR WIRELESS PHONES http://www.cdt.org/action/filing.html As the FBI has realized, new communications technology can be designed in ways that vastly increase the potential for government surveillance. Cellular and other wireless phones can generate information that can be used to locate individuals even if they aren't suspected of a crime. The FCC, with urging from the FBI, is considering a proposal to use your cellphone as a personal tracking device. This unprecedented attack on your privacy must be opposed. Cellular phones have become integral to many peoples' lives. Over fifty million ordinary Americans carry cellular phones with them as they go about their daily activities. Cellular phones are far more closely linked to an individual than are wireline phones. In essense, a cellular phone can become a tracking device, revealing to the government far more about your whereabouts, your associations, and your activities than the government can learn about you from the fact that your home phone was used to make a call a particular time of day. In 1994, when this topic was being debated in Congress, FBI Director Freeh testified that location information was not mandated by law. FBI Director Freeh testified that the law, "does not include any information which might disclose the general location of a mobile facility or service." Congress wanted to protect privacy, and took the FBI at its word that it would not seek to use cellphones as citizen tracking devices. Now the FCC, with urging from the FBI, is proposing to rewrite the law, requiring location information as part of a nationwide surveillance capability. This will allow the FBI to use your cellphone as a personal tracking device. --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). To receive "ISPI Clips" on a regular bases (up to 3 - 8 clips per day) send the following message "Please enter [Your Name] into the ISPI Clips list: [Your e-mail address]" to: ISPIClips(a)ama-gi.com . The Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) is a small contributor-funded organization based in Victoria, British Columbia (Canada). ISPI operates on a not-for-profit basis, accepts no government funding and takes a global perspective. ISPI's mandate is to conduct & promote interdisciplinary research into electronic, personal and financial privacy with a view toward helping ordinary people understand the degree of privacy they have with respect to government, industry and each other and to likewise inform them about techniques to enhance their privacy. But, none of this can be accomplished without your kind and generous financial support. If you are concerned about the erosion of your privacy in general, won't you please help us continue this important work by becoming an "ISPI Supporter" or by taking out an institute Membership? We gratefully accept all contributions: Less than $60 ISPI Supporter $60 - $99 Primary ISPI Membership (1 year) $100 - $300 Senior ISPI Membership (2 years) More than $300 Executive Council Membership (life) Your ISPI "membership" contribution entitles you to receive "The ISPI Privacy Reporter" (our bi-monthly 12 page hard-copy newsletter in multi-contributor format) for the duration of your membership. For a contribution form with postal instructions please send the following message "ISPI Contribution Form" to ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com . We maintain a strict privacy policy. Any information you divulge to ISPI is kept in strict confidence. It will not be sold, lent or given away to any third party. **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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by wwwnet65＠mailexcite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Electric power generators ?
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [E-CARM] Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Authentication-Warning: c3po.kc-inc.net: majordomo set sender to owner-e-carm(a)lists.kc-inc.net using -f Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:52:59 -0200 (EDT) From: Ed Gerck <egerck(a)laser.cps.softex.br> To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> cc: E-CARM <e-carm(a)c3po.kc-inc.net>, DIGSIG(a)LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU Subject: Re: [E-CARM] Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-e-carm(a)c3po.kc-inc.net Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Robert Hettinga wrote: >Don't blame me, blame the remailer? <Bwahahahahah!> Bob: If the e-mail below was forwarded through you, it means that you thought it is useful to these lists and that you also found some nexus in the argument line used by the, huh... author. However, neither you nor the huh... author seem to hold a steady line of argument, as of course, you are indeed to be blamed without recourse for this piece of tasteless non-sense being further reproduced on the Net. My intent with my original posting (available at http://www.mcg.org.br/antinomy.txt, as proof) was NOT to criticize the Clinton administration on an initiative which is in accord with current practices worldwide -- but to show that there is a better and privacy-protecting solution when identification is modelled using coherence functions. Further, my intent was to show that biometrics is perishable and not self-secure, which reasons alone would seem to rule it out in the case. THUS, MY SOLE REASON FOR THIS REJOINDER IS TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. However, the Net is an amplifier -- it just provides raw power. The question is how it is used. You and I have duly performed our duties as estimulated emission sources, albeit with different filter functions. Cheers, Ed Gerck. > >Cheers, >Bob Hettinga > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:26:24 +0100 >From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> >Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. > It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. > Please report problems or inappropriate use to the > remailer administrator at <abuse(a)replay.com>. >Subject: Identification and Privacy are not Antinomies >To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >Precedence: first-class >Reply-To: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> >X-Loop: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > >Aaww horseplops[1]! In fact, great, festering, mid-path, sole-sticking >horseplops! This argument is vacuous. As every small child knows, >authentication != identification and, in most cases, only authentication >is required and, the absence of identification implies privacy. > >Am I a UK citizen, a good credit risk, a club member in good >standing, etc. An appropriate mechanism, a smartcard, can easily >authenticate both itself (challenge-response) and the bearer via a biometric >and/or PIN without revealing the identity of the holder. > >However, who holds out hope that such a sensible >thing would ever be adopted by the powers-that-be. > >Nematode > >[1] The plop is a useful measure of human cogitation. As every small child >knows, much good thinking is done whilst enthroned on the commode, since >the evacuation of feces from the anus promotes the introduction of fresh >material into the brain through the ears. After years of experimentation >and careful measurement, we (the ISO labs) have observed a strong correlation >between ideas and fecal bombardment of the receptive commodal pool and audible >emissions therefrom. For example, it required only 0.3 plops to decide to vote >for Clinton while a similar decision in favor of John Major required almost >5 plops. >For the purposes of comparison, 10^6 homosapiens plop = 1 horseplop. While the >relationship between megaplops, flops and MIPS is not yet clear, our >ISO plop standard should be emitted soon. > >-----BEGIN PLOP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PLOP for Personal Privacy >Charset: nocommode > >NSACIAMOUSEaw6mkJhRWnHTzAQFMlgP/ZMM+14qUzy+w6AGSlOtAyrE2BBDSV3Hm >Tlc0Ct7wyXV2CPEMzieCm4ZS0rzigkgTZTMCmEqYexEJkdSAU60WMHm3cr28UJIG >ekx7N7aWKQ34u05dRrE+IVR329y0ia/2F8B7edZ7CqoydOJAnQxNIB1qohlCGlGT >RYgOGVSpO04= >=MF1K >-----END PLOP SIGNATURE----- > >--- end forwarded text > > >----------------- >Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> >Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> >44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, >[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to >experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' >=========================================================================== >Help with Majordomo commands plus list archives and information is >available through the E-CARM web page at http://www.kc-inc.net/e-carm/. >Sponsored by The Knowledge Connection. >=========================================================================== > ______________________________________________________________________ Dr.rer.nat. E. Gerck egerck(a)novaware.cps.softex.br http://novaware.cps.softex.br =========================================================================== Help with Majordomo commands plus list archives and information is available through the E-CARM web page at http://www.kc-inc.net/e-carm/. Sponsored by The Knowledge Connection. =========================================================================== --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email...
by David Watts 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's the definition of ISP in the legislation (H.R. 2281 at http://thomas.loc.gov) `(1) SERVICE PROVIDER- (A) As used in subsection (a), the term `service provider' means an entity offering the transmission, routing, or providing of connections for digital online communications, between or among points specified by a user, of material of the user's choosing, without modification to the content of the material as sent or received. `(B) As used in this section, other than subsection (a), the term `service provider' means a provider of online services or network access, or the operator of facilities therefor, and includes an entity described in subparagraph (A). Subsection (a) deals with limiting ISP liability for transmitting infringing material. Other subsections deal with caching, hosting, linking, taking down infringing material, liability for those who knowingly misrepresent that material is infringing, and rights of copyright owners to subpoena ISPs for identification information of alleged infringers. The requirement to register with the Copyright Office and designate a contact person applies only as to liability for hosted material. However, in order to be eligible for any of the liability limitations, ISPs must meet the following conditions: `(i) CONDITIONS FOR ELIGIBILITY- `(1) ACCOMMODATION OF TECHNOLOGY- The limitations on liability established by this section shall apply to a service provider only if the service provider-- `(A) has adopted and reasonably implemented, and informs subscribers and account holders of the service provider's system or network of, a policy that provides for the termination in appropriate circumstances of subscribers and account holders of the service provider's system or network who are repeat infringers; and `(B) accommodates and does not interfere with standard technical measures. `(2) DEFINITION- As used in this subsection, the term `standard technical measures' means technical measures that are used by copyright owners to identify or protect copyrighted works and-- `(A) have been developed pursuant to a broad consensus of copyright owners and service providers in an open, fair, voluntary, multi-industry standards process; `(B) are available to any person on reasonable and nondiscriminatory terms; and `(C) do not impose substantial costs on service providers or substantial burdens on their systems or networks. ---phelix(a)vallnet.com wrote: > > On 7 Nov 1998 13:50:20 -0600, Jim Choate <ravage(a)EINSTEIN.ssz.com> wrote: > > > > >Would such a commercial entity require registry to be protected? > > A more interesting question is whether anonymous remailers will need to > register. I suspect that there will be a challenge to this law that will > lead judges to define what an ISP is. That definition will problably be > something like: > > Any service that allows users to connect to, send, or receive > information to/from other sites or any site acting as a conduit for users > to communicate with others. > > Already, companies like Newscene and Newsguy (usenet only services) believe > that they will need to register, though they aren't technically ISPs, as > most people would think of them. > > Is an anymous remailer needs to register, what will the implications be? > > -- Phelix > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Blind signal demodulation
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The October 1993 Proceedings of the IEEE contain a number of rather interesting articles on blind signal identification and demodulation, which may be described roughly as "demodulation without the cooperation of the transmitter (or intended receiver where this might be necessary)". The first article in particular goes into some detail on how to acquire QAM signals used in modems, including a neat diagram on p.1919 of a 64-QAM constellation through the various stages of acquisition by a blind demodulator. The blind demodulation comletely bypasses the need for an initial training stage, acquiring the necessary signal-processing details on the fly. The article finishes with overviews of typical hardware used for blind demodulation of QAM signals, including a multi-protocol DSP card with with 8 320C50's capable of blind demodulation of anything from 24 2400bps signals up through 8 V.34 ones, as well as an ASIC for blind demodulation of digital cable TV signals. They also comment that blind decoders for typical voiceband signals can be implemented on Pentium MMX/UltraSparc-grade hardware. This is interesting reading, and should lay to rest the UL that high-speed modems have some sort of magic immunity to interception which the lower-speed ones don't. Oh yes, the introduction makes the observation that this sort of stuff is "rarely mentioned in the open literature". It's not hard to see why. Peter.

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Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:25:34 -0800 (PST) > From: David Watts <davidwatts_98(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email... > `(1) SERVICE PROVIDER- (A) As used in subsection (a), the term > `service provider' means an entity offering the transmission, > routing, or providing of connections for digital online > communications, between or among points specified by a user, of > material of the user's choosing, without modification to the content > of the material as sent or received. > > `(B) As used in this section, other than subsection (a), the term > `service provider' means a provider of online services or network > access, or the operator of facilities therefor, and includes an entity > described in subparagraph (A). That pretty much covers anyone other than a end-user/subscriber. This means anonymous remailers, mailing list hosting services, email services, etc. > Subsection (a) deals with limiting ISP liability for transmitting > infringing material. Other subsections deal with caching, hosting, > linking, taking down infringing material, liability for those who > knowingly misrepresent that material is infringing, and rights of > copyright owners to subpoena ISPs for identification information of > alleged infringers. The requirement to register with the Copyright > Office and designate a contact person applies only as to liability for > hosted material. Does 'hosted material' mean material that is put up by the ISP itself or does it also include material made available by subscribers? > However, in order to be eligible for any of the > liability limitations, ISPs must meet the following conditions: Ah, so there's more than simple registration... > `(i) CONDITIONS FOR ELIGIBILITY- > > `(1) ACCOMMODATION OF TECHNOLOGY- The limitations on > liability established by this section shall apply to a service > provider only if the service provider-- > > `(A) has adopted and reasonably implemented, and informs > subscribers and account holders of the service provider's system or > network of, a policy that provides for the termination in appropriate > circumstances of > subscribers and account holders of the service provider's system or > network who are repeat infringers; and Wait a second, I'm no cop. If somebody places copyrighted material on SSZ for example I can see bringing suite against that party, but forcing me to punish them by removing their account is over the line. Do I get restitution for lost services from the copyright holder since I'm acting as their agent? > `(B) accommodates and does not interfere with standard > technical measures. > > `(2) DEFINITION- As used in this subsection, the term > `standard technical measures' means technical measures that are used > by copyright owners to identify or protect copyrighted works and-- > > `(A) have been developed pursuant to a broad consensus of > copyright owners and service providers in an open, fair, voluntary, > multi-industry standards process; So this is voluntary? > `(B) are available to any person on reasonable and > nondiscriminatory terms; and Meaning they themselves aren't copyrighted? > `(C) do not impose substantial costs on service providers or > substantial burdens on their systems or > networks. Imposition of *any* cost is a substantial burden. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Grounding (fwd)
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems so pointless to correct Choate. The guy is almost totally impervious to enlightenment. But a couple of whoppers have to be pointed out... > Secondly, you're considering an electron carrying a photon as a > single wavicle, it ain't. It's a superposition of several wavicles (3 quarks > and a lepton to be exact under the standard model). Electrons don't "carry" photons. An atom can absorb a photon, raising an electron to a higher energy level, but the photon is then gone. And a single moving electron certainly doesn't carry a photon. Photons move at the speed of light, always. Quarks are constituents only of baryons. There are no quarks in electrons or photons. Choate's bizarre description of a "spark gap" inside a conductive globe culminates with this: > Unlike charges attract. Therefore the gas of electrons are attracted to the > inside surface. Now since the globe is neutral it must follow by > conservation of charge that there is a negative charge equal to the charge > held in the gas on the *OUTSIDE* of the ball. The net charge within the sphere will not change. If the box in the middle with the "spark gap" is spraying out electrons, this can only mean that the box is itself becoming positively charged. The sphere sees a constant charge within itself; at best, the charge can be redistributed. There are no net changes of charge within the sphere and so there will be no changes in any charge appearing on the outside of the sphere. Choate's whole model of how a spark gap transmitter works, and why it emits electromagnetic radiation, is so bizarre that it is hard to believe. Someone else can bang their head against the brick wall of his ignorance on that topic. Choate is, by far, the worst poster on the cypherpunks list today. He posts off-topic material, he is argumentative, and 90% of the time, he is simply wrong.

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Milton Friedmann get's pied....
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Seems the Mayor of San Fran and Milton have something in commen.... ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ps I didn't forward anything from this so that nobody'd get upset they missed their meal-train.

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Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 00:18:26 -0500 > From: Michael Hohensee <mah248(a)nyu.edu> > Subject: Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd) > You missed my point. What I'm trying to point out is that no government > (or any other body, for that matter) can prevent someone from doing > something. Of that we agree. Which is why I will continue to believe the issues we deal with are not government problems but people problems. > All the state can do (and does, if you look closely) is > offer to punish anyone who disobeys it. It doesn't matter whether that > state is protecting individual rights or not --it can only punish, not > prevent. Well to be even more exact, they offer a guarantee of retribution if they can catch or prove somebody broke a law. Of course we could posit a government that pairs everyone up in groups of two (a perpetual no-lone zone), the ultimate police state. > I'm explaining why it is impossible for the state to protect individual > rights. I suspect we're playing word games here with 'protect'. I am not refering to what my neighbor does to me when he gets pissed off that my stereo is too loud. That obviously the government (local, state, or federal) can do nothing about a priori. Where the governemnt (at all levels) *CAN* in fact protect individual rights is the way they create the laws they enforce on all citizens (eg tax laws or dope-smoking laws). Those most certainly can be crafted to prevent abuse of civil liberties. Our own Constitution is a perfect example. The problem is the *people* who we elect believe they are above it and instead of asking "Do the laws we pass conform to the letter and intent of the Constitution?" instead state "It's a flexible document that is hard to interpet because of wording and changes in society". They want an out to not have to play by the rules. Nothing more and nothing less. > I offer two mechanisms by which the state *could* _protect_ > individual rights, and then point out why they are impossible. It is > something of a strawman argument, but if you disagree, I'm willing to > tear down any mechanism you might propose. :) See above. It isn't the rules that matter, it's the respect the arbiters of the rules have *for* the rules that matter. With that clearly in mind *any* mechanism is doomed to fail from the beginning. > > > All any state can do is threaten to "retaliate" against (why not just > > > say "attack") people who disobey its edicts. In order for this threat > > > to be credible, the state must wield sufficient power to kill any > > > individual (or group of individuals) who would stand against it. If it > > > does not have this power, it cannot govern. > > > > This is a quaint and completely artificial distinction. > > Is it really? Then could you please explain to me exactly why I would > have to pay taxes (or otherwise make submission) to a state which did > *not* have the power to kill me? So you wouldn't have to stand there and watch your house burn to the slab. So you would have help finding the perpetrator who raped your daughter last night. So when you drive down the street it isn't a whole filled muddy tract through a economicaly impoverished wasteland. So when you write a check you know there is something behind it that is trustworthy. So when you have that wrech late some rainy night there is an ambulance and a hospital to take you to. As to your (and others) particular focus on taxes, all it would take to resolve that issue is a single law: No citizen may have their home, personal property, or their liberty infringed or removed because of tardy taxes. Of course I'd add a section in there that would direct the tax accessor of the appropriate local to send a note to all relevant services to refuse to provide services to you. I'd even them impound vehicles that were operated on public streets without the appropriate licenses. Don't want to let your house burn down, fine. Let the fucker burn to the slab. Your daughter gets raped, fine. You figure out who did it on your own. Don't want to pay vehicle and related taxes, fine don't drive your vehicle on public streets. Just face it. It isn't the threat of violence that pisses you off. It's that you have social responsibilities to those around you. Taxes represent a responsibility that you don't want and to hell with the consequences. > this in a physical sense, not a legal one-- then what is to stop me or > anyone else from telling it to fuck off? Such a state cannot govern > those who do not wish to be governed, and so would not be a government. No state can govern those who don't wish to be governed, violence or no. [I've deleted a great gob of this since it's the same just rehashed in different sentences.] And to answer a specific question, I'm familiar with Dawkins work. > When two bears approach the same berry bush, they do not immediately > start fighting over it. What time of year is it? If we're talking in the spring when they're just out of hibernation they will begin to attack immediately. If it is two males in rut in the fall they will attack immediately. If you examine the way Alaskan Browns share the Salmon runs in the spring you will find ample evidence why Dawkins example isn't worth the paper it's writ on. > Instead, they each stick to one side of the > bush, and do not disturb one another. Malarcky. I'm familiar with the way bears and other mammals work and this is gibberish. Unless the bears are related one of them will be finding another bush pronto. > pretty good at attacking things. It would be pretty easy for a > exceptional bear to break this rule, and become dominant over the other > bears, if what you say is true. Except your forgetting the nature of bears. Except in heat bears are solitary animals. They don't like groups and avoid them. They defend their territory to whatever level of force is required. In most cases (Alaskan Brown are a well studied example you can find tons of literature on) they will not even approach each other closer than several hundred feet. So the question of them sharing a berry bush is a contrived example that is irrelevant and doesn't occur in nature outside of family groups that are transient and only last 1-2 years depending on the type of bear and the food supply. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: verisign digital id's for outlook <shudder>
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>A quick question for all you security-savvy people. Our IT instructor has >asked the class to sign up for verisigns' 60-day trial of a class 1 digital >id. > >I also understand that a well (poorly?) written activeX applet can grab my >key basically without my knowledge (to speak nothing of the other myriad >holes in win98/95) > >My question is, where the hell is the private key kept on the users box? >How is it protected against attack? It's protected by Microsoft asserting that it's protected. There's also some sort of attempt at encryption (easily broken, see http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/breakms.txt) but in any case there are enough security holes there that anything which manages to run on your system (ActiveX, as you've mentioned) can grab your keys without a lot of trouble. Peter.

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