December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RSA? ElGamal?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is ElGamal secure than RSA ?

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Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of Anonymity"...)
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Black Unicorn wrote: > At 06:07 PM 2/2/98 +0000, Attila T. Hun wrote: > > I did-- tried to lay $14K out for a Mercedes (25 years ago). > > they wouldnt take it. so I went and picked up two $7K > > cashiers from two different banks. same thing with a pair > > of Lycoming IO540 aircraft engines: 2 8s and a 9 --stay > > under the $10K transaction. > > Careful. This may well be illegal now. > Structuring transactions to avoid > reporting requirements is a felony. > statute of limitations has run. at the time, I did not give it much thought except the aggravation of filing the paperwork for what was a common business transaction. It was actually easier to get cash in las vegas than a cashiers check as the banks were so pissy. the casinos were far better than the banks once you established out of town credit with them --and they were 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I wanted those aircraft engines bad --the vendor in Chicago had the only two available for close to six months and he had agreed to sell them to Canada but was waiting on the letter of credit --the casinos wired the money direct which turned the deal --the engines were on a return flight the next morning --a Saturday. transferring money from a casino is not the best place in the world for obvious reasons, despite its expediency. structuring transactions is certainly illegal now, but I have not seen that kind of money since retiring after having had a run of bad luck with my health a few years back (and lost my FAA medical cert). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNNgm3rR8UA6T6u61AQET5gH6An6jxz5lkdghl6BXbHZ3tFCGu7iam32F knFYLLWGSYngkRH6k4x7/zXA0SH7ghZ5b33gKlX98oWx7NKyOXLZuw== =5RqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Internic may be required to return money
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Holy shit. > > Court: Domain fees appear illegal > By Brock N. Meeks > > WASHINGTON, Feb. 2 - A federal court Monday issued a > temporary injunction barring the federal government from > spending some $50 million it has collected from the > registration of Internet domain names. That money forms a > pool of funds intended to be spent for improving the > Internet. On Monday, the court sided with the plaintiffs in a > lawsuit that claims those fees constitute an illegal tax. > > The money is part of a so-called "intellectual infrastructure > fund," which is funded by 30 percent of all fees paid to > register an Internet domain name. Initial domain names cost > $100; renewal of domain names is $50 annually. The > remainder of registration fees goes to Network Solutions > Inc. (NSOL) to cover its cost of maintaining the registration > service. > > Network Solutions operates as a monopoly, stemming from > a National Science Foundation government grant. That > grant is supposed to end in March; the White House issued > a proposal Jan. 30 that would move domain name > registration into the private sector. > > In October, six domain-name holders filed suit in U.S. > District Court alleging that the National Science Foundation > had no authority to allow Network Solutions to collect any > money in excess of its cost of providing the registration > service. Further, the suit charged, the 30 percent > set-aside amounts to an unconstitutional tax. > > Judge Thomas Hogan said Monday that the plaintiffs "have > made a significant showing that the (intellectual > infrastructure fund) is an illegal tax." > > Hogan said there is "no litmus paper onto which the Court > can drop a regulatory assessment such as this one, hoping > to see whether the paper comes up blue for tax or pink for > fee." Justice Department lawyers had argued in court that > the domain-name registration fee was exactly that, a fee, > because it was paid voluntarily and therefore couldn't be > considered a tax. > > But Hogan disagreed, writing that "there is no dispute that > the assessment (registration fee) is involuntary - it is > automatically charged to every domain registration." > > In 1995 Network Solution's contract was amended to allow > it to begin collecting fees for the registration process, > which it had done for free since 1993, when its contract > was issued. The registration fees set off a firestorm of > criticism in the Internet community. The Intellectual > Infrastructure Fund was supposed to be used for the > betterment of the Internet for the community as a whole; > however, no plan has ever developed on how to spend the > money, which is held in escrow. > > Because no plan had been developed to spend the fund > money, Congress rushed into the vacuum late last year > and simply appropriated some $23 million. Congress > earmarked that money to be spent on the Next Generation > Internet project, which President Bill Clinton highlighted in > his recent State of the Union speech. > > "Under federal law, no independent executive agency - > such as the National Science Foundation - can collect > fees that exceed the cost of providing the service they are > administering," said William Bode, attorney for the plaintiffs. > "NSI, the agent of NSF, spends less than $5 to register > domain names, yet it charges a registration fee of $100 and > renewal fees of $50 per year," he said. > > Network Solutions did not return calls for comment. > > Bode also argued that only Congress has the authority to > tax and that no such authorization has taken place. The > Justice Department argued that because Congress > appropriated the $23 million from the infrastructure fund, it > had essentially ratified the tax. > > Bode argued that ratification of a tax can't take place in > authorization bills. Judge Hogan agreed, noting that > ratification is a legislative function and that "it is well known > that Congress does not normally legislate through > appropriations bills." Hogan added: "Congress may have > intended to grant NSF the authority to collect the > assessment, but it has not effected a legal ratification." > > The suit also is seeking antitrust damages, alleging that the > NSF violated the competition in contracting act when it > allowed Network Solutions to begin collecting the $100 fee. > Bode says the competition act requires the NSF to re-bid a > new contract, not simply amend it. > > The temporary injunction "paves the way for our motion, > which we'll file in two days, to require NSI to return all > registration renewal fees which exceed the cost of > providing that service," attorney Bode said. "We think that > cost [to NSI for the registration process] is significantly less > than $10, probably $2 to $3," he said, "which would mean > that there would be a refund of approximately $100 million > in our judgment."

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Rogue EFF Dir Brad Templeton
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This jerk should be kicked out of EFF. Brad had stated he wants to eliminate one-way anonymous remailers, make two-way anonymous remailer users identify themselves as the same person every time they use one, and: o require digital signature identification for all email o require digital signature identification for all Usenet posts --------- previously shown ------------- Brad Templeton emailed: * Information Security emailed: * > Nor does your digital signature idea do anything to prevent * > throw-away accounts from doing major spams; you'll have to * > put even MORE controls on people. * * Correct, no throw away accounts. It's coming. * * > The digital signature idea is an astonishingly bad idea, that * > only frustrated control-freaks will accept. * * You are mistaken. I surveyed a roomful of usenet admins at a * conference last year. They were 95% in favor of it. [I replied that those were the control-freaks I was talking about] Brad Templeton emailed, formatted by guy: > As far as I am concerned, no fake addresses is one of my non-negotiable > requirements, because > > the eventual USENET is going to have digital signature requirements. > > It's the only way to stop [people from] posting under fake addresses > where we can't find them, and that means stopping honest users from > doing it too. [I said false: ALL problem posters are locateable to their ISP] http://www.clari.net/brad/spam.html [snipped] [by Brad] Solutions... First, improve internet mail systems and protocols to identify mail with a fake or forged return address. There are some simple steps to do this, and eventually digital signature allows complete verification of the sender. http://polka.clari.net/usenet-format/cert.html Q: What about anonymous remailers? A: A person with an anonymous address that sends mail back will probably be able to get a certificate. They can post without revealing their name, except perhaps to the person who gives them a certificate. Digital signature works fine to prove the same person sent two messages without saying at all who that person is in the real world. Forced to authenticate they are the same person, even through the anonymous remailer. --------- end of previously shown ------------- What's new is Brad has inserted his declaration that access to the Net must require you to authenticate yourself with a digital signature to post to Usenet in the draft text for the new Usenet RFC, which he is heading: Brad's draft Usenet digital signature text: # Systems MAY insist that an article be signed, at least the # body and the minimal header set, or they MAY reject the # article. This policy may vary from group to group and # subnet to subnet. Eventually it is expected that a site # SHOULD reject any article that is not signed. Hey, fine if an individual group wants to vote it in. But ALL OF USENET??? I asked him if he would change the wording to: # An individual group MAY insist that an article be signed, # at least the body and the minimal header set. This is # subject to the normal news standards of users of a group # deciding this issue themselves. Dead silence. He REFUSES TO DISCUSS the last statement: # Eventually it is expected that a site # SHOULD reject any article that is not signed. It is a purely political statement on his part, pushing his vision of a tightly authenticated Net, like they have in China. In fact, it is utterly clueless of him, especially since he was one of the original CDA plaintiffs. [Not to mention it is an "agreement to make an agreement"] NONE of the other list participants has said they agree everyone should authenticate themselves using digital signatures for all Usenet posts, which is the language I am contesting. Yet, he won't even discuss the ramifications. Yep, power corrupts: he's running the show, and answers to no one. ------- begin Crypto Manifesto excerpt ------- * Sandia and Coms21, currently engaged in an agreement to support the * People's Republic of China's driver license and national ID card * program, have partnered to create a fraud-proof solution for on-the-spot * positive identification of card bearers. * "China Tells Internet Users To Register With Police" * The New York Times, 2/15/1996 * * China ordered all users of the Internet to register with the police, as * part of an effort to tighten control over information. * * The order came from the Ministry of Public Security. * * Network users have been warned not to harm national security, or to * disseminate pornography. Well, there's a new way to control Internet users: require them to identify themselves, no doubt your U.S.-created National ID Card will be required for access. That ought to stop pornography: identify each and every user. # "The Great Firewall of China", by Geremie R. Barme & Sang Ye, Wired, 6/97 # # Xia Hong, China InfoHighway's PR man: "The Internet has been an important # technical innovator, but we need to add another element, and that is # control. The new generation of information superhighway needs a traffic # control center. It needs highway patrols; USERS WILL REQUIRE DRIVER'S # LICENSES. THESE ARE THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT." The Supreme Court's CDA ruling: Once most people are fingerprinted, a cheap (say $50) fingerprint scanner that attaches a timestamp and government digital signature will be sold for allowing Internet access to "adult" locations---chat rooms, USENET, WWW sites---and it will be mandatory. The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court said as soon as the "Internet driver's license" is technically feasible, CDA becomes legal. "Such technology requires Internet users to enter information about themselves--perhaps an adult identification number or a credit card number--before they can access certain areas of cyberspace, 929 F. Supp. 824, 845 (ED Pa. 1996), much like a bouncer checks a person's driver's license before admitting him to a nightclub." ------- end Crypto Manifesto excerpt ------- If everyone has a digital signature, CDA becomes legal. I do wish EFF would kick him out! ---guy

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Cryptography empowering human rights.
by WebWarrior3＠InfoWar.Com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Looking for opinions and leads to resources about human rights and the potential abuse of said rights with public key 'escrow' or recovery agents. Please send info to: mailto:webwarrior3@infowar.com Thanks in advance, Scott R. Brower Electronic Fronteirs Florida http://www.efflorida.org effla(a)efflorida.org

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Fountain of youth found? [SciAm] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From owner-tesla(a)ssz.com Wed Feb 4 13:00:02 1998 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199802041857.MAA05778(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Fountain of youth found? [SciAm] To: tesla(a)ssz.com (Experimental Instrumentation) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:57:23 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2511 Sender: owner-tesla(a)ssz.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tesla(a)ssz.com Note this file has been edited. Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.sciam.com/explorations/1998/020298telomere/ > Telomere Image: Southwestern Medical Center > > LIFE'S CLOCK. Telomeres are repeating DNA strings (TTAGGG) that cap > chromosomes. Each time a mortal cell divides, its telomeres become > shorter. When they reach a preset length, the cell ceases to divide, > ages and dies. > > Scientists have found a major factor > that controls whether a cell dies or thrives > > It may not sound as appetizing as aquavit, but telomerase--an enzyme > discovered only a decade ago in a single-celled protozoan--may well be > the elixir of youth. This chemical acts in immortal cancer cells, > sperm and ovum to repair telomeres, the strands of DNA that tie up the > ends of chromosomes. And now it seems that activating telomerase in > sundry other cells grants them a longer lease on life as well. > > The finding, which was published in the January 16 issue of Science, > finally proves what was a highly controversial model linking telomeres > to cellular aging. More important, it opens up new avenues for > research into diseases that occur when cells grow old, including > macular degeneration in the eye and atherosclerosis, and those that > arise when cells don't age at all, such as cancer. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: RIP, Carl Gorman, Code Talker
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh-Oh! Us "newbies" slipped up. Except, when I signed up, my entry notice said: "To post to the whole list, send mail to cypherpunks(a)toad.com" Soooo, maybe you want we should send it elsewhere, to the same lists you send to, you should publish the correction, not just flame ... Until then, we just have to do as told by the list-admin ... On Sat Jan 31 12:20:56 1998 Dr.Dimitri Vulis wrote: > From dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com Sat Jan 31 12:20:56 1998 > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: RIP, Carl Gorman, Code Talker > From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) > Comments: All power to the ZOG! > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 98 14:23:21 EST > > Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > > > (As Gary seems to be a newcomer, let me remind him and others that > > "cypherpunks(a)toad.com" is not the place to send messages to the list. > > Please use one of the distributed addresses. It's been a year since the > > list moved off of toad.com. I wish John would just start bouncing messages > > sent to toad.com and be done with it.) > > When are cocksuckers John Gilmore and Guy Polis planning to die from AIDS? > > --- > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM > Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps > Ciao, Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com

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HUMOR: Bill Gates gets it, True CNN Story!!
by Steve Orrin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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FW: SEC Rule Announcement
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I haven't been able to confirm this report. Note that it refers to monitoring employee's HOME computers. Peter Trei > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Layten [SMTP:larry@ljl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 11:04 AM > To: cryptography(a)c2.net > Subject: SEC Rule Announcement > > I received information in an Electronic Mail Association (EMA) > bulletin that said the Securities and Exchange Commission > approved a rule that would go into effect February 15th that > requires securities employers to have the ability to monitor > electronic communications between employees and customers > on employees' home computers or through third party systems. > > Does anyone have any more information on this and how it > might apply to encrypted email? > > Larry

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FW: SEC Rule Announcement
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[sorry if you get this twice - pt] I have not been able to confirm the claim in this letter - the EMA does not seem to have a web site. Note that it refers to employers monitoring employee's HOME computers. Peter Trei > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Layten [SMTP:larry@ljl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 11:04 AM > To: cryptography(a)c2.net > Subject: SEC Rule Announcement > > I received information in an Electronic Mail Association (EMA) > bulletin that said the Securities and Exchange Commission > approved a rule that would go into effect February 15th that > requires securities employers to have the ability to monitor > electronic communications between employees and customers > on employees' home computers or through third party systems. > > Does anyone have any more information on this and how it > might apply to encrypted email? > > Larry

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Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of Anonymity"...) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "Attila T. Hun" <attila(a)hun.org> > Date: Wed, 04 Feb 98 22:14:36 +0000 > Subject: Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of Anonymity"...) > >You don't know Texas or Texans very well... > > well, I do, real well --but you dont know rural Utahns. Actualy I do, know quite a few people in Utah; both in and out of the Mormon Church and in and outside the handfull of cities. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:07:19 -0500 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of > Anonymity"...) > > 1. those who buy for price alone are this man's lawful prey. > > Those who *don't* buy for price alone are usually somebody's lunch sooner > or later. There is *always* somebody higher up the foodchain. No matter how big or tough sooner or later you end up somebodies lunch. Price is irrelevant except in regards the time frame. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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implementing an export control policy on a web site
by jfrancis＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am seeking information on what constitutes legal conformance to U.S. ITAR when webserving encryption software from within the U.S. I have read pretty much everything I can find online that looked like it might be relavent. Apologies if this is a FAQ that I have some how missed. Part of my confusion stems from the different policies implemented by different vendors on their sites, and also by how those policies have changed over time. For instance, at Netscape one has to provide a tremendous amount of personal info in order to download the domestic version of Communicator. Phone number is required, and there appears to be some automated sanity checking on the phone number/address supplied. This is a sharp contrast to the Cypherpunks Home Page (ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/Home.html) where a simple request not too export and an explanation of the ITAR appears to be all that is done. PGP has yet a different standard, directing you to the MIT page which eventually leads to a form (at http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pgp-form.html) that forces you to affirm your citizenship, agree to obry ITAR and obey the RSAREF license, and state that you will only use PGP for noncommercial use. It then appears to do some minimal checking of your ip name/address (it would allow me to download from netscape.com but not from ricochet.net) If anyone can point me at any legal analysis of these different approaches, or has any info to offer on the matter, I'd love to hear about it. thanks, Joe Francis

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IBM cpu breaks 1GHz barrier [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > IBM breaks 1,000 MHz > > More related sites... NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Engineers at an International > Business Machines Corp. research facility in Austin, Texas, Wednesday > demonstrated the world's first computer chip to break the 1,000 MHz > barrier. > [INLINE] The chip operates at 1 billion cycles per second. The fastest > commercial microprocessors today operate at around 300 MHz. However, > computer users won't be able to run out and buy a PC containing the > chip anytime soon. IBM isn't expected to make it available > commercially for at least two years. > [INLINE] The news comes just days after rival Digital Equipment > introduced a new version of its Alpha chip that it said would break > the 1,000 MHz barrier. Digital Equipment, which hasn't yet hit that > mark, also said it would take at least two years for the chip to be > available. > [INLINE] IBM will issue a research paper detailing the chip, along > with two related microprocessor papers, at the International Solid > State Circuit Conference in San Francisco Friday. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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IRS Technology Chief Resigns [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > > IRS TECHNOLOGY CHIEF TO RESIGN > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Arthur Gross, the IRS official heading efforts to > update the agency's outmoded computer systems, plans to leave the > agency this spring. > > Gross, chief information officer at the IRS, won wide respect from > congressional Republicans for his computer modernization efforts > even as they grilled the agency for mistreatment of taxpayers last > year. > > He announced his plans to resign Tuesday. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Pepsi a tad anal? [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > DRINKING THE COMPETITION LEADS TO LAWSUIT > > POMONA, California (AP) -- Just because he delivers Pepsi doesn't > mean he has to drink it. > > Michael Dillon has filed a discrimination lawsuit against the > soft-drink giant after he was reprimanded for drinking Gatorade on > the job and was publicly chastised for drinking a non-Pepsi product > during a meeting. > > Dillon says both claims invaded his privacy. > > A spokesman for Pepsi says the company doesn't forbid workers from > downing other soft drinks, but expects them to be team players when > it comes to being loyal. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Yeltsin: Clinton to cause next World War? [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > > YELTSIN: CLINTON'S IRAQ ACTIONS COULD CAUSE WORLD WAR > > Yeltsin Yeltsin warns Clinton against use of force in > Iraq February 4, 1998 > Web posted at: 11:52 a.m. EST (1652 GMT) > > MOSCOW (CNN) -- Russian President Boris Yeltsin on Wednesday issued > the Kremlin's strongest criticism yet of U.S. threats to launch > military strikes against Iraq, saying such action could trigger > another world war. > > "By his actions, (U.S. President Bill) Clinton might run into a > world war," a somber Yeltsin said at a televised meeting in the > Russian capital. > > "He is behaving too loudly on this -- too loudly", Yeltsin said. And > he added, "Well, now (some are saying) let us flood it all with > planes and bombs. No, frankly speaking, it is not like Clinton at > all." > > "One must be more careful in this world saturated with allsorts of > weapons which are sometimes in terrorists' hands," the Kremlin chief > said, occasionally gripping his desktop andgrimacing. "It's all very > dangerous." ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Feds Approve Bank to Certify Digital Signatures
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a note to Dave Farber's list that the Office of the Comptroller of Currency has approved Zion's First National Bank to certify digital signatures. Since they're in Utah, Zion's has a certain amount of legal infrastructure in place. The text version of the story is at http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/98-4.txt and the 20-page PDF with gory details is at http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/98-4att.pdf They're going to offer digital signature certificates with the usual binding of a key to a body plus papers, and provide software to support it. Some of their software can be used for encryption, and unfortunately they're going to offer key escrow, though as a separate business service, with keys encrypted by the key's corporate owner as well as by the bank for protection, but it's not going to be a mandatory service, and they have no intention of offering escrow for signature keys, only encryption keys. Their documentation does talk a good bit about crypto technology, in layman's terms, and about risk management and Y2000 compliance, and also in great detail about how things like this are standard banking functions applied in a digital environment (to convince the OCC to let them offer it, since they're a bank and aren't supposed to offer non-bank-related services). There's also a story in Network World at http://www.nwfusion.com/news/0202rsa.html about Verisign and Entrust CAs plans for IPOs. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Re: The Continued Attack on Cash (Was: "The Right of Anonymity"...)
by Robert H Guttman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > "Americans do not buy for quality, they buy for price" > > Which must explain our gross national product, then. Cheaper, > as always, *is* better. > > > as John Ruskin said: > > 1. those who buy for price alone are this man's lawful prey. > > Those who *don't* buy for price alone are usually somebody's > lunch sooner or later. I somehow missed the full thread on this topic, but I disagree that "cheaper, as always, *is* better." There are many markets and situations where people (Americans included) shop by "value" (perceived or otherwise), not just price. This is what VARs and "branding" are about and what enables market power. For example, Gerry Heller, CEO of FastParts - an online auction for semiconductors, was quoted in a recent Forrester Research report as admitting that even in this commodity-like market "availability is more important than price" when it comes to auctioning semiconductors. - Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------- Robert H Guttman voice:617-253-9603 mailto:guttman@media.mit.edu MIT Media Laboratory http://www.media.mit.edu/~guttman Software Agents Group http://ecommerce.media.mit.edu/ Agent-mediated E-Commerce -----------------------------------------------------------------

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STOA Assessment of Techno-Control
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've transcribed the Euro-Parliament STOA report, "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control," 6 January 1998, a portion of which was offered earlier by Axel Horns and Ulf Möller. http://jya.com/stoa-atpc.htm (295K text + 210K images) Zipped version: http://jya.com/stoa-atpc.zip (314K) It's a grim assessment, revealing more than most of us want to face about the dark side of high technology, especially what the most technologically advanced nations are deploying, and building to sell to the worst of humanity, and how export laws are flaunted to cut criminal deals in defiance of high-minded law and public policy. It demonstrates that he national security heritage continues, sharing military technology with governmental outlaws around the globe. And the US is leading the market. It would be cathartic for this report was widely read, pondered, then acted upon, in the US and globally. Kudos to the European Parliament for sponsoring it. And congratulations to the authors and the beleaguered organizations who've been trying for years to diminish this over civilized madness, to jolt us out of techno-narcosis. There's much in the report that's been discussed here, and much more that has not but deserves to be. The full report is 112 pages, 50 pages of main body, 13 pages of notes and 25 pages of bibliography. We've not yet transcribed the detailed bibliography. As noted earlier, the contents are: Abstract Executive Summary Acknowledgements Tables and Charts 1 Introduction 2 Role and Function of Political Control Technologies 3 Recent Trends and Innovations 4 Developments in Surveillance Technology 5 Innovations in Crowd Control Weapons 6 New Prison Control Systems 7 Interrogation, Torture Techniques and Technologies 8 Regulation of Horizontal Proliferation 9 Conclusions 10 Notes and References 11 Bibliography [Not yet transcribed] Appendix 1. Military, Security & Police Fairs. [Not provided with report]

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Sun takes over Netscape? [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > February 4, 1998: 7:27 p.m. ET > > More related sites... NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Shares of Netscape > Communications Corp. shot up Wednesday amid rumors that the company is > being eyed as a possible takeover target by Sun Microsystems Inc. > [INLINE] The takeover scuttlebut drove Netscape (NSCP) stock up 1-1/16 > to 19-1/4 in active trading. The surge capped a four-day trading > period in which the Internet software company's shares have jumped > roughly 20 percent from a Friday close of 16-1/16. > [INLINE] Despite the leap, Netscape stock remains sharply down in > 1998, having dropped nearly 20 percent in the first 23 trading days of > the year. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Fingerprinting in CA [was Whoa: British SmartCard rollout]
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How come there is no organized opposition to fingerprinting everyone in the nation? [U.S.-centric talk, but applies to Britain too] There was just a news report on "KidsSafe", a smartcard for holding kids' health details for an emergency. "Eventually, they won't have to carry the card, we can instantly look up the information from their fingerprints". Excerpts from the Cryptography Manifesto follows... BTW, it's finally online! I need to update it for the past 6 months of activity, but... http://www.erols.com/paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm (scroll down) ---- Fingerprinting everyone in the USA - nay, the planet - is a known plot by the NSA: see (the 2nd) "The Body as Password" below. Are we all going to silently roll over and accept this NSA crap??? It's our tax money, but we NEVER got to vote on it. How about some cypherpunk with money challenging it on the basis shown below of violating Privacy Act of 1974? ---guy Sure, government can give debate reasons for requiring fingerprinting for driver's licenses... But it is still a violation of the minimization requirement of the Privacy Act of 1974. Biometric data on citizens is FAR BEYOND any reason government can give. Notice how no citizens in any state ever got to vote on such an important escalation of personal data collection by the government. Indeed, it seems to be accomplished in the quietest way possible, giving citizens the least amount of opportunity to choose their fate. Odd, since tax-payer paid-for government services is what gives them the power. But elected representatives will do, you say? Did you hear any of them mention it during campaigning? Did Alabama elected officials even mention it with their press release of a new driver's license, despite that being the plan? No. What does that tell you? We need a cabinet-level Privacy Commission, with the power to intervene nationwide. Power to protect us little people from fanatical personal data collection. We are losing it piece by piece. Who would have thought the United States would collect fingerprints from all citizens? This is the main way our Federal Government is rolling out the National ID Card, using a Universal Biometric Card: driver's licenses. Divide and Conquer, state by state. It is the beginning of the end. Don't think the biometric driver's licenses are the exact equivalent of a National ID Card? Check out this phrasing from an unimplemented law: # Privacy Journal, By Robert Ellis Smith, October 1983 issue # # Senator Bob Dole wants the government to conduct a three-year study to # unify federal and local requirements for personal identity. # # The bill, S1706, would amend the Federal False Id Act of 1982, to require # a comprehensive identity scheme for the U.S., either THROUGH UPDATING # EXISTING IDs TO BE MORE SECURE, UNIFYING THEM, or creating a new identity # document for all Americans. Collect biometric information from everyone... law enforcement's Evil Holy Grail. * "U.S. Has Plan to Broaden Availability tests of DNA Testing" * By Fox Butterfield, The New York Times, undated but 1996 implied. * * In a little known provision of the Clinton Administration's 1994 Crime * Control Act was a call for the establishment of a nationwide DNA data * bank like the current national system for fingerprints, run by the FBI. * * In the two years since then, 42 states have passed laws requiring prison * inmates give blood or saliva samples for a "DNA fingerprint." * * In a report today, the Justice Department said it is stepping up efforts * to make such DNA biometric capture "as common as fingerprinting" and that * they expect the test in five years to go from $700 each to a mere $10 and * take only hours or minutes to accomplish. And how much hardware is a handheld fingerprint device? * "Lucent in New Identification Joint Venture" * The New York Times, 5/22/97 * * Lucent Technologies [Bell Labs is their research and development arm] and * U.S. Venture Partners said today that they had formed a company that would * make products to help people prove their identities through electronic * fingerprinting technology. * * The first product of the company, Veridicom Inc., will be a postage-size * fingerprint sensor used to retrieve information, authorize purchases or * allow entry into restricted areas. * * The postage-size sensor will measure the ridges and valleys on the skin * when a finger is pressed against a silicon chip, and then check the * measurements against the user's profile. Not big at all, is it? # "Faster, More Accurate Fingerprint Matching" # By Andrea Adelson, The New York Times, October 11 1992 # # "We think there will be a revolution in fingerprinting," said David F. # Nemecek, a deputy for the FBI's Information Service Division. # # The next step is for manufacturers to make a single-finger mobile scanner # for use in patrol cars. Some FBI cars are expected to get them next year. $ "The Body As Password", By Ann Davis, Wired Magazine, July 1997 $ $ In October 1995, the Federal Highway Administration awarded a $400,000 $ contract to San Jose State University's College of Engineering to develop $ standards for a "biometric identifier" on commercial driver's licenses and $ for use in a centralized national database. A centralized national database of biometric information for cross-state driver's licenses, and all individual state driver's license fingerprints available via the FBI's NCIC. * "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5 * * News reports indicate that, like California, practically all of the 50 * states are in the process of installing news systems for drivers licenses, * often incorporating biometric measurements such as digitization of finger- * prints. That these systems are linked together gives us an indication of * the powerful grip our hidden controllers have on this nation. * * All federal agencies are being integrated into this data net. These Police * State agencies constitute a clear and present danger, not only to the * privacy and constitutional rights of Americans but to our very lives! * * A Hitler, a Pol Pot, or a Stalin would have loved to have had the * microchips, surveillance cameras, lasers, computers, satellites, weapons, * wiretap circuits and communications gadgetry of today's Dick Tracy Police * State. * * Perhaps FBI Director Louis Freeh said it best shortly after his * appointment to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1993. Referring * to the incredible array of computerized control and battle gadgetry * available to federal law enforcement, Freeh, stressing cooperation * between his own FBI and the other alphabet police agencies, sardonically * remarked, "LET'S SHARE OUR TOYS." * * Dick Tracy, of course, was a good guy. But Dick Tracy would have * recognized as unconstitutional the worldwide comprehensive Orwellian * system that has been installed, and reject it as a menace to true law * and order. ! "Welfare Recipients Lose Benefits Through Glitches in Computers" ! By Joe Sexton, The New York Times, 5/16/96 ! ! The fingerprint-imaging system that is a central element of the Giuliani ! administration's effort to crack down on welfare fraud has resulted in ! hundreds of recipients cases being closed. ! ! The public advocate's office has been inundated with complaints from ! improper case closings. ! ! The failure seems to stem from the local offices not transmitting the ! fingerprints to Albany's central computer. This resulted in AUTOMATICALLY ! TERMINATING BENEFITS OF PEOPLE THE COMPUTER THOUGHT WERE NOT FINGERPRINTED. ---- Prior to the fingerprint "final solution" of control over us, there were other attempts---which would have required a vote---which tried to roll out a National ID Card. * "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5 * * Since total and absolute control can be obtained only by a Police State * bureaucracy, efforts have escalated in recent years to require a National * ID Card. * * Upon Bill Clinton's election as President, Secretary of Health and Human * Services Donna Shalala and Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy jointly * developed a $100 million plan to require all children and babies to have * a dossier established in a national computer registry to insure "universal * mandatory vaccinations." * * When patriotic Americans rose up to protest, the U.S. Senate quietly * shelved the deceptive Shalala-Kennedy proposal. * * The Clinton administration next surfaced with its mandatory health care * plan. A key component of this plot to socialize medical care was the * requirement of a computer I.D. card for every American, linked to a master * computer network. * * Martin Anderson, writing in The Washington Times: * * President Clinton held the pretty red, white and blue "smart card" in * his hand when he addressed the nation, proudly waving it like a small * American flag. * * Only it wasn't a flag; it was a "health security card"---his slick * name for a national identity card. Under his plan a new National * Health Board would establish "national, unique identifier numbers" * for every single one of us. * * Fortunately, President Bill Clinton's healthcare scam never made it * into law. Sadly, few of the complainers were upset about the potential * for abuse by Big Brother. * * Shortly after being elected, one Clinton advisor promoting the biochip * 'mark' is Dr. Mary Jane England, a member of Hillary Clinton's ill-fated * socialized, national healthcare initiative. Addressing a conference * sponsored by computer giant IBM [IBM's Lotus division takes hand biometrics * of employees who use their childcare facilities] in Palm Springs, * California, in 1994, England not only endorsed the proposed mandatory * national I.D. smart card, but went one scary step further: * * The smart card is a wonderful idea, but even better would be the * capacity to not have a card, and I call it "a chip in your ear," * that would actually access your medical records, so that no matter * where you were, even if you came into an emergency room unconscious, * we would have some capacity to access that medical record. * * We need to go beyond the narrow conceptualization of the smart card * and really use some of the technology that's out there. * * California Governor Pete Wilson has actively stumped for a National I.D. * Card system, using the straw man of California's pervasive immigration * problem. California Senators Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer support * it too. The latest proposal is to mandate I.D. cards for all school * children under the Goals 2000 national education program. Another plan * by the U.S. Labor Department would have required it for all users of a * National Job Training and Employment database. * * George Orwell, in 1984, his classic novel of Big Brother and a coming * totalitarian state, observed that very few people are awake and alert * to the machinations and manipulations of the controllers. Thus, the * people, as a whole, fall victim to a colossal conspiracy out of ignorance * and because of apathy and denial of reality: * * The people could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of * reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was * demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public * events to notice what was happening. [ By Walter Cronkite: "Orwell's '1984'---Nearing?", NYT, June 5 1983 In our world, where a Vietnam village can be destroyed so it can be saved; where the President names the latest thing in nuclear missiles "Peacekeeper"---in such a world, can the Orwellian vision be very far away? Big Brother's ears have plugs in them right now (or they are, by law, supposed to), at least on the domestic telephone and cable traffic. But the National Security Agency's ability to monitor microwave transmissions, to scoop out of the air VAST numbers of communications, including telephone conversations, store them in computers, play them back later, has a truly frightening potential for abuse. George Orwell issued a warning. He told us that freedom is too much taken for granted, that it needs to be carefully watched and protected. His last word on the subject was a plea to his readers: "Don't let it happen. It depends on you." ] * * The National Security Agency's Project L.U.C.I.D., with all its * technological wizardry, is a future, planetary dictator's dream---and a * Christian and national patriot's nightmare. Someday, the Holy Bible * prophesies, that planetary dictator will emerge on the scene, lusting * for blood... * * There can be no doubt about it. * * The REAL Chief Executive Officer of the NSA is not a human being. * * The CEO MUST be Lucifer himself. Amen. ---- It is technology driving the capabilities, it is our government using them ruthlessly: without letting us vote on it. Never before could someone walk up to you and number you by scanning your fingerprints. A number that is yours and yours alone. You have been numbered for all time. No ID card needed once portable fingerprint scanners are deployed all over! If the government suddenly ordered all citizens to be numbered with an indelible invisible ink on their arms so they were permanently numbered; so law enforcement could scan them at will: there would be a revolt. Yet that is what is happening. Fingerprints, scanned into a computer, are a number. The number is inescapably yours. Modern technology means they don't have to put the number on you, they can read it off of you by minutely examining your body. And: it is the NSA driving the fingerprint-rollout of the national ID card. # "The Body As Password", By Ann Davis, Wired Magazine, July 1997 # # Currently housed at the National Security Agency, a working group of # federal bureaucrats founded the Biometric Consortium in the early 1990s. # Its 1995 charter promises to "promote the science and performance of # biometrics for the government." # # Consortium mumbers include state welfare agencies, driver's license # bureaus, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Social Security # Administration, and the Internal Revenue Service. If my attempts to show how bad a thing this is have been too rambling, too abstract, here is a simple and accurate analogy: * "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5 * * It was Martin Anderson who, in his book, Revolution, revealed that during * the Reagan administration during the 1980s, several top cabinet officials * were urging President Ronald Reagan to implement a computerized National * I.D. Card. * * The rationale for the proposal was that such a system would help put a lid * on illegal immigration. [Reagan had been Governor of California] * * But Anderson, who at the time was a domestic advisor to the President and * sat in on this particular cabinet meeting, spoke up and gave the group * something to think about. * * "I would like to suggest another way that I think is a lot better," he * told them, serious in demeanor but clearly being facetious. "It's a lot * cheaper, it can't be counterfeited. It's very lightweight, and it's * impossible to lose. It's even waterproof." * * "All we have to do," Anderson continued, "is tattoo an identification * number on the inside of everybody's arm." * * His reference was to the tattooing of numbers on victims in Nazi * concentration camps. Survivors still bear the dreaded tattoo markings * to this day. * * Mr. Anderson described the stunned reaction of those present, "There were * several gasps around the table. A couple cabinet members looked as if they * had been slapped. No one said anything for a long time." * * Ronald Reagan, a consummately wise politician who professed a belief in * Bible prophecy, caught the implication [about The Mark of the Devil]. * * He then hushed the cabinet and efficiently dismissed the National ID Card * proposal by sardonically remarking, "Maybe we should just brand all babies." "Those that give up essential liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty nor security." - Ben Franklin "When ID's are mandatory, it is time to leave the planet." - Robert Heinlein * "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5 * * In the November 1994 publication of the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, * the FBI advocated BIOMETRIC CAPTURE FOR ALL NEWBORN BABIES AND * SIMULTANEOUSLY THEIR MOTHERS.

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Rogue root domain reconfiguration [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > ADMINISTRATION SAYS INTERNET RECONFIGURATION WAS ROGUE TEST > > graphic February 4, 1998 > Web posted at: 9:29 p.m. EST (0229 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Clinton administration said Wednesday it was > confident a researcher in California won't repeat his rogue > reconfiguration of the Internet -- a test that few users noticed but > that raised concerns about how the worldwide network is run. > > Jon Postel, who runs the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority at the > University of Southern California under a Defense Department > contract, last week redirected half the Internet's 12 > directory-information computers to his own system. > > Normally, those so-called "root servers" help users find addresses > on the Internet by pulling data from Network Solutions Inc., a > private company in northern Virginia that operates under a federal > government contract.

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FT.com Registration
by Site.Feedback＠FT.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd)
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate (ravage(a)ssz.com) wrote: >If there were no copyright nobody would have any reason to market software >or much else for that matter. So I presume that Linux doesn't exist[1]? And, for that matter, I make my living writing software which is given away for free... Mark [1] Yes, I'm aware the GPL uses copyright to enforce its conditions, but it's copright-free in the important sense: anyone can copy Linux and use it with no fear of black ninjas at their door.

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Fingerprinting...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Changing to Moderated Cypherpunks -- How?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitry "I've been like this since my prostrate operation" The Dim wrote: > You ask John Gilmore and Sandy Sandfart if you can suck their cocks. I'd be glad to handle it. The only criteria is to delete Dr. Dim and his nyms. Would toad.com give me a mail hook to send back to, or am I supposed to setup my own majordomo? First: how many people are interested? I suppose I could split it in two: the other for actual crypto comments. I'd not suggest it myself, because our concerns have to be wider than just that. Regarding everyone in the US being fingerprinted in a sneakily-rolled-out manner: CCC... We can't encrypt our fingerprints, dammit. ---Information Security

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Re: Changing to Moderated Cypherpunks -- How? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:05:08 -0500 (EST) > From: Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> > Subject: Re: Changing to Moderated Cypherpunks -- How? > I'd be glad to handle it. > > The only criteria is to delete Dr. Dim and his nyms. > > Would toad.com give me a mail hook to send back to, > or am I supposed to setup my own majordomo? I'll provide you a feed if you find that acceptable, unfortunately I am not able to provide an account on SSZ to run it off of. My suspicion is that you'll need a majordomo or similar remailer package (possibly with procmail for duplicate filtering). I also strongly suggest you get your feed as a CDR member and not a subscriber to a given list. That way if one node goes down it won't leave you out in the cold (necessarily). You also probably don't want to use a system that hosts a CDR node in case that site drops off the net. Good luck. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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BXA Crypto Meet
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A report on this would be welcomed. Does anyone know who are the subcommittee members? ---------- Federal Register: February 6, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 25) Page 6153 --------------------------------------------------------- Bureau of Export Administration President's Export Council Subcommittee on Encryption; Partially Closed Meeting A partially closed meeting of the President's Export Council Subcommittee on Encryption will be held February 23, 1998, 2 p.m., at the U.S. Department of Commerce, Herbert C. Hoover Building, Room 4832, 14th Street between Pennsylvania and Constitution Avenues, NW., Washington, DC. The Subcommittee provides advice on matters pertinent to policies regarding commercial encryption products. Public Session 1. Opening remarks by the Chairman. 2. Presentation of papers or comments by the public. 3. Update on Administration commercial encryption policy. 4. Discussion of task force development and work plan. Closed Session 5. Discussion of matters properly classified under Executive Order 12958, dealing with the U.S export control program and strategic criteria related thereto. Dated: February 3, 1998. William V. Skidmore, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Export Administration. FR Doc. 98-3001 Filed 2-5-98; 8:45 am

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update.357 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:01:53 -0500 (EST) > From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) > Subject: update.357 > > A QUANTUM TUNNELING TRANSISTOR, an on-off switch > that exploits an electron's ability to pass through normally > impenetrable barriers, has been built by Sandia researchers (Jerry > Simmons, 505-844-8402), opening possibilities for record-speed > transistors that can be mass-produced with current nanotechnology. > In their device, the researchers control the flow of electrons > between two GaAs layers (each only 15 nm thick) separated by an > AlGaAs barrier (12 nm). Although the electrons in GaAs > ordinarily do not have enough energy to enter the AlGaAs barrier, > the layers are so thin (comparable in size to the electron > wavelength) that the electrons, considered as waves rather than > particles, can spread into the barrier and, with an appropriate > voltage applied, out the other side. In the process, the electron > waves do not collide with impurity atoms, in contrast to a > traditional transistor's particlelike electrons, which are slowed > down by these collisions. Transistors that switch on and off a > trillion times per second--5 times faster than the current record--are > possible with this approach. Although quantum tunneling > transistors were first built in the late 1980s, it was originally > infeasible to mass-produce them. Previous researchers engraved > the ultrathin GaAs and AlGaAs features side-by-side on a surface, > something hard to do reliably with present-day lithography. > Therefore the Sandia researchers stacked the features vertically, by > using readily available techniques such as molecular beam epitaxy > which can deposit layers of material with single-atom thicknesses. > Having made quantum-tunneling memory devices and digital logic > gates operating at 77 K, the researchers expect room-temperature > devices in the next year. (J.A. Simmons et al., upcoming article > in Applied Physics Letters; figure at > www.aip.org/physnews/graphics) > [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Roger J Jones 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > > I'm here to ask > > > As you'll soon see > > > Did you grope > > > Miss Lewinsky? > > > Did you grope her > > > in your house? > > > Did you grope > > > Beneath her blouse? > > > > > > I did not do that > > > Here nor there > > > I did not do that > > > Anywhere! > > > I did not do that > > > Near nor far > > > I did not do that > > > Starr-You-Are. > > > > > > Did you smile? > > > Did you flirt? > > > Did you peek > > > Beneath her skirt? > > > And did you tell > > > The girl to lie > > > When called upon > > > To testify? > > > > > > I do not like you > > > Starr-You-Are > > > I think that you > > > Have gone too far. > > > I will not answer > > > Anymore > > > Perhaps I will go > > > Start a war! > > > > > > The public's easy > > > To distract > > > When bombs are > > > Falling on Iraq! > > > > > >

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Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Atilla wrote: >no, in fact, if there were a free market remedy for M$' >monopoly, I would be in favour of it --and there is _no_ >free market remedy and failure to act promptly >conceivably wipe out all, or virtually all, of the >viable competitors. Of course there's a free-market remedy for Microsoft; eliminate copyright. If anyone can copy Microsoft software for free, it would be forced to compete on real benefits rather than installed base. This is why I have no sympathy with those who claim Microsoft is the victim in the anti-trust suits, even though I'm opposed to such action in general; those whose profits depend on the 800-pound gorilla can hardly complain when it falls on them. Mark

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Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:23:58 -0800 (PST) > From: mark(a)unicorn.com > Subject: Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig > Of course there's a free-market remedy for Microsoft; eliminate copyright. If > anyone can copy Microsoft software for free, it would be forced to compete > on real benefits rather than installed base. If there were no copyright nobody would have any reason to market software or much else for that matter. I would predict that much of the technology and infrastructure we have now wouldn't exist. It would also stiffle creativity and new methodologies because there would be no profit in it to recoup development costs. Those who would survive in such a market would be the 800-lb gorillas because only they would have the resources to squash the smaller companies. Free markets monopolize. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Feds warm spammers [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > FEDS WARN SUSPECTED E-MAIL SCAMMERS > > graphic February 5, 1998 > Web posted at: 6:51 p.m. EST (2351 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Trade Commission and postal > inspectors have issued more than 1,000 warnings to businesses > suspected of sending illegal junk mail and operating shady > moneymaking schemes over the Internet. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Feds Approve Bank to Certify Digital Signatures
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm not sure it is unfortunate that they'll be offering escrow. If its a complete flop, then we'll be able to point to the complete failure of the released system. Time for some Big Brother inside stickers to be printed out, slapped on flyers for the program, and remailing to potential customers. :) Anyone work at ZNB? Want help quitting? Adam Bill Stewart wrote: | There was a note to Dave Farber's list that the Office of the | Comptroller of Currency has approved Zion's First National Bank | to certify digital signatures. Since they're in Utah, Zion's has | | They're going to offer digital signature certificates | with the usual binding of a key to a body plus papers, | and provide software to support it. Some of their software | can be used for encryption, and unfortunately they're | going to offer key escrow, though as a separate business | service, with keys encrypted by the key's corporate owner | as well as by the bank for protection, but it's not | going to be a mandatory service, and they have no intention | of offering escrow for signature keys, only encryption keys. -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd) > From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) > Date: Thu, 05 Feb 98 16:26:45 EST > > > Of course there's a free-market remedy for Microsoft; eliminate copyright. > > > anyone can copy Microsoft software for free, it would be forced to compete > > > on real benefits rather than installed base. > > > > If there were no copyright nobody would have any reason to market software > > or much else for that matter. I would predict that much of the technology > > and infrastructure we have now wouldn't exist. It would also stiffle > > creativity and new methodologies because there would be no profit in it to > > recoup development costs. Those who would survive in such a market would be > > the 800-lb gorillas because only they would have the resources to squash the > > smaller companies. > > Software development seems to be thriving in countries that aren't very keen > on enforcing copyright laws - do you care to explain why? Oh yeah... Software development is a long way from selling software, not the same animal at all. I mean when I go down to the dozen computer stores within a mile or so of my house I am truly deluged by software from countries outside of the US and Canada. I mean we have all heard of the Indian and Bulgarian software billionares haven't we? And all those folks in Turkey just rolling in cash... Further, who do the majority of these folks who actualy make a reasonable living work for either directly or under contract? Large US and Eurpean countries thats who. That's why those folks can make a living developing (not selling) software. > > Free markets monopolize. > Hmm... There's no copyright on perfumes. There are market leaders in perfumes, > but no monopoly; hardly even an olygopoly. I can tell how often you buy perfume, the ones I buy for my girlfriend certainly have a little 'c' on them... And as to the number of companies that are actualy developing perfume versus reselling it under their own house brands...there might be a couple dozen succesful (say stay in business more than 5 years) in the whole world and I would go so far as to hypothesize that if one were motivated to plot the number of companies per year over the last say 50 years you would see the number go *down*. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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"The Internet needs a chastity chip." ---James Traficant, Dem-Ohio
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/980206/wired/stories/cybersex_1.html Friday February 6 10:07 AM EST Lawmaker warns of cybersex "pregnancy danger" WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Citing the case of a woman who claims she got pregnant from e-mail, an Ohio Democrat called Wednesday for a "chastity chip" for the Internet. Rep. James Traficant, known for his flamboyant rhetoric, gave a brief floor speech about a woman named Frances who claimed to have gotten pregnant through an e-mail exchange with a paramour 1,500 miles away. "That's right -- pregnant," the Congressman proclaimed, warning of the dangers of "immaculate reception." He called on Congress to go beyond "v-chips" that would protect kids from sexual content on the Internet, saying: "Its time for Congress to act. The computers do not need a v-chip. The Internet needs a chastity chip." Although Traficant did not say whether he believed the woman's account, he did say it was "enough to crash your hard drive." ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu Lewinsky for President '2012

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RebaNews
by mail 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Reba will join Rosie O'Donnell as her special co-host February 16, as The Rosie O'Donnell Show continues its broadcasts from Los Angeles. In addition to pulling co-hosting duties, Reba will also perform "What If," her tribute song to the Salvation Army. Fresh off her wins at both the Peoples Choice Awards (which she hosted and won Favorite Female Musical Performer) and the American Music Awards (Favorite Female Country Artist), the February 16th appearance marks the second time Reba has appeared on The Rosie O'Donnell Show. Later this month, Reba will begin work on the CBS-TV movie, "Forever and Always," tentatively scheduled to air in May.

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Free-market monopolization features...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, This is the theory in its current working version: An unregulated (free-market) economy will inherently monopolize when, but not necessarily only if, the following are present: - the market is saturated, in other words the number of consumers at any given time are equal to or less than the service providers ability to provide that service (or resource). This means the long-term survival of firms is a function of retained market share and raw resource share control/ownership. - the technology and/or start-up costs are high in material and intellectual factors. This minimizes the potential for new providers to start up. Providers will also require non-disclosure and other mechanisms to reduce sharing of information and cross-communications except under controlled conditions. Expect an increase in certifications and implimentation standards required to do business with the more succesful of these providers. - an individual or small group of service providers have a small but distinct efficiency advantage in technology, manufacturing, or marketing. Over a long-enough time this market advantage will grow and as a result widen the 'technology gap' between firms. - expect the most efficient firms to share their profit with the critical intellectual contributors. This further reduces the problem of cross-communication and new provider start-up. - expect to see the more successful providers to join in co-ops with the less succesful providers. This will be under the surreptitous goal of 'developing technology'. It's actual goal will be to cause these smaller firms to commit resources to such enterprises. As soon as it is strategicaly advantagous the primary providers will break-off the co-op. This has the effect of further reducing the ability of the smaller providers to react in a timely manner to market changes or develop new technology due to resource starvation. - expect to see the less efficient providers to combine in an effort to reap the benefits of shared market share and resources. Unless this partnering provides a more efficient model and there is sufficient time for that efficiency to develop these new providers will eventualy fail or be joined with other providers. - expect to see the primary provider buy those less efficient providers that don't fail completely. These purchases will be as a result of some new or unexpected technology that will significantly increase the market share of the primary provider -or- it will be with the goal of eliminating this secondary technology and forcing those market shares to do without or use the primary providers technology. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Free-market monopolization features... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I left one out... Forwarded message: > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> > Subject: Free-market monopolization features... > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:35:16 -0600 (CST) > An unregulated (free-market) economy will inherently monopolize when, but > not necessarily only if, the following are present: - initialy prices for services will be low to promote purchasing but as providers obtain larger market shares their prices will increase over time and out of step with inflation and other market forces in order to widen the profit gap. The strategy is one of 'use it or starve'. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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New Credit Rating System Coming [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > NEW CREDIT RATING SYSTEM ON HORIZON > > graphic February 5, 1998 > Web posted at: 2:38 p.m. EST (1938 GMT) > > NEW YORK (AP) -- Within months, retailers will be able to use a new > computerized credit-rating system to decide not only whether they'll > take your check or debit card, but how big a check you can write. > > Banks will be able to use the system to determine whether they will > let you open a checking account, and what kind of fees you will pay. > > Deluxe Corp., the nation's biggest check printer, has joined Fair, > Isaac & Co., a credit scoring company, and Acxiom Corp., a data > warehouse, to create the system for rating a merchant's risk of > accepting checks and debit cards. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:13:00 -0800 (PST) > From: mark(a)unicorn.com > Subject: Re: the best justice money can buy --Lessig (fwd) > Jim Choate (ravage(a)ssz.com) wrote: > >If there were no copyright nobody would have any reason to market software > >or much else for that matter. > > So I presume that Linux doesn't exist[1]? And, for that matter, I make my > living writing software which is given away for free... So do I, and I bet both our incomes combined doesn't add up to 15 minutes of Bill G's and it won't. From a market perspective we're flies on the back of great elephant. Please be so kind as to describe how and why this marketing mechanism (copyleft) will succed? I've been using and supporting Linux since 1993 (SSZ is listed as a source site in the back of 'Running Linux' since day one) in this manner neither I or anyone else has gotten rich. Linus made so much money off it that he went to work for a company in So. Cali. writing fully commercial software... > [1] Yes, I'm aware the GPL uses copyright to enforce its conditions, but > it's copright-free in the important sense: anyone can copy Linux and use > it with no fear of black ninjas at their door. It's copyrighted in the important sense in that it uses the copyright to enforce its conditions. That is just as important as the marketing decisions made by it. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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RE Fingerprints and EF Georgia
by WebWarrior3＠InfoWar.Com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yup, EF-Georgia http://www.efga.org has had an ongoing project dealing with fingerprinting for DL's This is in reply to Jim Burns' post: "If your interested in this problem, I believe that the Georgia wing of the EFF is mounting a campaign against fingerprinting on driver's licenses. Can't remember the URL for it though..." EF Georgia has consistantly had some mighty fine information on their mail list, still on topic too for the most part. Scott R. Brower Electronic Frontiers Florida http://www.efflorida.org BTW...neither EFGA nor EFFlorida, or as far as I know, any other EF group... is affiliated with EFF in any way but certain principals which bind us together in a common cause.

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