December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

LA DA's illegal wiretaps revealed ---LA Times
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fans of CALEA, take note. Sunday, April 26, 1998 THE STATE Can the L.A. Criminal-Justice System Work Without Trust? By CHARLES L. LINDNER [excerpt] in the wake of the discovery that deputy district attorneys assigned to its narcotics unit have relied on secret wiretaps for years to gather evidence against their clients--and no one, including judges, knew about the practice. Beyond the obvious legal question of whether the district attorney knowingly violated the 4th Amendments's prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure is one that cannot be resolved in court: Can the county's criminal-justice system carry on in an atmosphere of mistrust? ... LAPD officers have avoided revealing the existence of their electronic intercepts using a police procedure known as "the handoff technique." It works like this: Narcotics officers on "Team A" set up a wiretap to gather information on a suspect. Without identifying the source of their information, the officers turn over the wiretap's "intelligence product" to detectives from "Team B," also members of LAPD's narcotics unit. Using the intelligence product, "Team B" officers set about trying to gather facts independently that would provide "probable cause" for a second judge to sign a search warrant targeting another suspect, without the cops disclosing the existence of the first wiretap to the jurist. It is not hard to imagine the potential harm from this police-prosecution malfeasance. If an investigation focused on a pharmacist, for instance, the police would have a taped record of every prescription for every patient and physician who called the pharmacy. By law, these wiretaps are preserved for 10 years, so the potential damage to an innocent citizen having his or her private calls intercepted is significant. What aggravates the misconduct is the likelihood that neither the police nor the "wiretap judge" followed the legal requirement that the police file written progress reports every 72 hours, and that the judge make a decision every 72 hours on whether a tap can continue. There is strong reason to suspect that neither the judiciary nor the Legislature has been "minding the store." For example, a judge issuing a wiretap order must inform any person whose voice was wiretapped within 90 days and supply the person with an inventory of what was recorded. Similarly, Atty. Gen. Dan Lungren is required to provide a detailed report to the Legislature and state Judicial Council each April regarding the number and duration of all wiretaps conducted by every law-enforcement agency in the state. As of last week, neither the Judicial Council nor Chairman John Vasconcellos' Senate Public Safety Committee could find a copy. Finally, no public defender or private criminal lawyer has been given the legally required inventory since 1985, when the secret wiretaps began. According to Public Defender Michael P. Judge, the public record discloses only three reported wiretaps by local law enforcement during 1997--two by the LAPD and one by the county Sheriff's Department. It is simply mind-boggling that, for the last 13 years, on hundreds of occasions when the court or opposing counsel have asked prosecutors whether they have turned over all defendants' and co-defendants' statements, they have been lied to or misled. The danger from these secret wiretaps is not limited to suspected criminals. According to statistics published by the Administrative Office of the United States Courts, which oversees "authorized" federal wiretaps, each wiretap order of roughly 40 days in length results in the interception of an average 2,139 conversations involving 84 separate persons. The statistics also note that the average tap produces incriminating information less than 20% of the time, resulting in the arrest of two suspects and the conviction of a single individual. If, as a police narcotics detective testified in the Gaxiola case, there have been hundreds of secret "handoff" taps and electronic intercepts, by extrapolation, thousands of Los Angeles residents have had their private telephone conversations secretly and illegally monitored by LAPD. The public defender has filed an unprecedented class-action habeas corpus petition with Superior Court Presiding Judge Robert W. Parkin on behalf of all past, present and future public defender clients. It seeks to discover whether the prosecution denied thousands of defendants a fair trial by hiding the true source of its information, i.e., secret wiretaps. If secret wiretaps were used and the evidence was concealed from the defense, then thousands of men and women were illegally convicted and incarcerated. Should this unhappy scenario play out, the criminal justice system could well be irreparably damaged, its credibility in the public mind ruined. Yet, even if events keep the convicted behind bars, the loss of trust between prosecutor and defense lawyer may never be fully recovered. The problem defense lawyers and criminal judges face today is that they have never had so many prosecutors lie for so long about so much, which may have resulted in the unconstitutional convictions of so many. http://www.latimes.com/sbin/iawrapper?NS-search-set=/3544b/aaaa004Kx44b35f&N S-doc-offset=0&NS-adv-search=0& ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu "I actually thought Silicon Valley was where women went to get fixed." ---LA Mayor Richard Riordan 98.02.19

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Schneier on Smartcards and Holding Secrets
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bruce wrote a short letter to a trade mag (Internet world? I've lost it since) worth reporting. The jist was, if a smartcard contains Bank Secrets but is held by customers which do not share the same goals/responsibility as the owner of the secrets, this is *poor security design*. ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu "I actually thought Silicon Valley was where women went to get fixed." ---LA Mayor Richard Riordan 98.02.19

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TruthBore
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." ~ Bohr

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...and we're here to screw you...
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company." ~ An Opus To Be Named Later

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Defense
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"The best defense against logic is ignorance." ~ A(H)OL(E)

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Son of Fear
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Message will arrive in the mail. Destroy before the FBI sees it." ~ FUD D'is

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Weapons
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Armadillo: To provide weapons to a Spanish pickle.

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ID's
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere." ~ Robert Heinlein

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Justice
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Justice is incidental to law and order." ~ J. Edgar Hoover

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IEEE newsletter on Security & Privacy
by Avi Rubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is to inform people who are interested of the IEEE Computer Society's Technical Committee on Security and Privacy's newsletter, CIPHER. The URL for the online version can be found at http://www.itd.nrl.navy.mil/ITD/5540/ieee/cipher/ There is also a text version of the newsletter mailed out to the mailing list about every two months. You can find subscription information as well as the current and back issues at the web site. Here is the table of contents of the April issue: ==================================================================== Newsletter of the IEEE Computer Society's TC on Security and Privacy Electronic Issue 27 April 27, 1998 Avi Rubin and Paul Syverson, Editors Bob Bruen, Book Review Editor Hilarie Orman, Assoc. Editor Mary Ellen Zurko, Assoc. Editor Anish Mathuria, Reader's Guide ==================================================================== http://www.itd.nrl.navy.mil/ITD/5540/ieee/cipher/ Contents: [3354 lines total] o Letter from the TC Chair o Letter from the Editor Final Program and Registration Information for the 1998 IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy, Oakland California USA Preliminary Program of the 1998 IEEE Computer Security Foundations Workshop, Rockport Mass. USA Security and Privacy Survey by the IEEE Computer Society Security and Privacy News Briefs: o LISTWATCH: Items from security-related lists, by Mary Ellen Zurko o An Update from Asia, by Yongfei Han o Report on Canadian Crypto Policy Framework for Electronic Commerce, by Stewart Baker and Elizabeth Banker o More recent news on Canadian Crypto Policy Framework and other policy news o Denial of service attacks targeting Windows 95/NT machines o Employees buy ORA Canada Commentary and Opinion: Book Reviews o Web Security. A Step-by-step Reference Guide. by Lincoln Stein, reviewed by Bob Bruen Conference Reports: o Workshop on Education in Computer Security (WECS '98) by Cynthia Irvine o Computers, Freedom, and Privacy (CFP `98) by Danielle Gallo o Financial Cryptography (FC`98) by Paul Syverson o NSA Network Security Framework Forum (NSFF) by Jeremy Epstein Assessment of security software New reports available via FTP and WWW: a couple New Interesting Links on the Web Who's Where: recent address changes Calls for Papers: HASE, ACSAC, IEEE Internet Computing, Software Practice & Experience, JCS, ACM RBAC Reader's guide to recent security and privacy literature o Conference Papers: Paper lists for FC, NDSS, and Info. Hiding o Journal and Newsletter articles: several Calendar List of Computer Security Academic Positions, maintained by Cynthia Irvine Publications for sale -- CSFW proceedings available TC officers Information for Subscribers and Contributors ********************************************************************* Aviel D. Rubin rubin(a)research.att.com Secure Systems Research Dept. Adjunct Professor at NYU AT&T Labs - Research 180 Park Avenue http://www.research.att.com/~rubin/ Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971 Voice: +1 973 360-8356 USA FAX: +1 973 360-8809 --> Check out http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/websec/ for a new book on web security (The Web Security Sourcebook). *********************************************************************

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kid informers
by ddt＠lsd.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.odci.gov/cia/ciakids/aerial/index.html "Hi, kids! My name is Harry Recon, and this is my twin sister, Aerial. She's going to tell you about the History of the CIA in another section of the kid's page. We know some great books, too! Read all about it! My parents named me after President Harry Truman, who created the Central Intelligence Agency when he signed the National Security Act on Sept. 18, 1947. My family has always supported the Agency and its predecessor, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), roosting wherever it was camped and keeping an eye out in defense of our country, too. In 1961, when the Agency moved from downtown Washington, DC, to Langley, Virginia, we naturally followed. My dad says that we Recons have been in the intelligence operations business throughout US history: With Paul Revere on his midnight ride. With Virginia Hall as she arrived in France during World War II. Winging along side the U-2 as it took off to gather overhead pictures. Let Aerial tell you more about where we live and work and about our family history." http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/042398cia-kids.html "This is not an effort to recruit," a spokesman for the spy agency emphasizes. "This is an effort to inform in a fun way." I wonder what genius came up with this idea.

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Data Fellows Strikes a Major Deal
by Mia Westerholm 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Data Fellows Ltd. Media Release For immediate release 28 April 1998 DATA FELLOWS STRIKES A MAJOR DEAL A Prominent Scandinavian Telephone Operator Invests in Data Security Helsinki, Finland, April 28, 1998 -- Data Fellows, a leading provider of Internet security solutions, has made a deal with the largest private telephone company in Finland. Helsinki Telephone Corporation has bought F-Secure SSH to enhance the security of its Kolumbus Internet services over public networks. Kolumbus is one of the largest providers of commercial Internet services in Finland. "Data security is a highly important consideration for us," says Mr. Vesa Perttunen, Development Manager from Helsinki Telephone Corporation, Kolumbus Services. "We evaluated the data security products available on the market, and F-Secure SSH was the best we could find. We particularly appreciated the fact that the source code is available to us." Says Mr. Tatu Vehmas, Sales Manager, from Data Fellows: "F-Secure SSH leaves no room for security compromises. Furthermore, it is the only sensible tool for secure remote systems administration currently available on the market. We are pleased that Kolumbus Services has chosen our unique F-Secure SSH package." The F-Secure SSH Package F-Secure SSH products are based on the SSH security protocol. The SSH protocol is an application level protocol with strong public key authentication and 128-bit encryption. It guarantees the simultaneous authentication of both ends of the connection, the secrecy of the transmitted information, and the integrity of the transmitted data. F-Secure SSH Terminal provides the user with secure login connections over untrusted networks. It acts as a replacement for the telnet protocol. F-Secure SSH Terminal fully supports VT100 terminal emulation. F-Secure Tunnel creates a local proxy server for remote TCP/IP services. The service can be one of the Internet protocols, pop, smtp (used by e-mail software), http (used by Web browsers), etc., or almost any other TCP/IP based service. The local proxy server listens for a socket on the desired port and forwards the request and data over the secure channel. It then instructs the F-Secure SSH Server to make the connection to the specified service on the remote machine. In addition to secure terminal connections and TCP/IP connection forwarding, F-Secure SSH Server provides tools to replace existing rsh, rlogin, rdist, and telnet protocols. These tools enable administrators to carry out all remote systems administration tasks over secure connections. About Helsinki Telephone Corporation Helsinki Telephone Corporation is the largest local, private telephone company in Finland. It is one of the cornerstones of the Finnet Group, a consortium of 46 private local telephone companies. Helsinki Telephone Corporation has expertise in the entire range of telecom services, from the fixed network through data services to mobile telephony. Through the Finnet Group, Helsinki Telephone Corporation provides services throughout Finland. It has also extended its services abroad through co-operative agreements with leading international operators. More information about Helsinki Telephone Corporation can be found at: http://www.hpy.fi More information about Kolumbus Services can be found at: http://www.kolumbus.fi More information about Finnet can be found at: http://www.finnet.fi About Data Fellows Data Fellows is one of the worlds leading developers of data security products with offices in San Jose, California and Espoo, Finland. Its groundbreaking F-Secure product family is a unique combination of globally available, strong encryption and revolutionary anti-virus software. The integrated F-Secure product range provides a complete security solution for enterprises, and includes file encryption and IPSec communication encryption products, VPN gateways, SSH based secure remote management software, and a full range of anti-virus products to workstations, servers and gateways. Data Fellows is also the developer of the award winning F-PROT Professional anti-virus, now part of the dual scanning engine concept of F-Secure Anti-Virus. Data Fellows is privately owned. Since it was founded in 1988, its annual net growth of net sales has been over 80%. Data Fellows offers a worldwide network of technical support, training and distribution in over 70 countries. Data Fellows belongs to an elite group of companies that have a triple-A rating from Dun&Bradstreet. More information about Data Fellows and its products can be found at: http://www.DataFellows.com For further information, please contact: Data Fellows Ltd. Mr. Tatu Vehmas, Sales Manager Tel. +358 9 859 900, Fax. +358 9 8599 0599 E-Mail: Tatu.Vehmas(a)DataFellows.com €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Mia.Westerholm(a)DataFellows.com http://www.DataFellows.com Data Fellows Ltd. PL 24 FIN-02231 ESPOO, FINLAND Tel. +358 9 859 900 Fax. +358 9 8599 0599

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NASA 'educating' scientists to restrict free speech.
by Chris L. Kuszmaul 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, my name is Chris Kuszmaul. I am a contractor at NASA Ames research center. I feel it would be valuable for the general scientific community to be aware of some upcoming classes designed to educate scientists here regarding what they may and may not write on the internet, or any public forum. -------------------- begin excerpt -------------------- NASA has begun responding to recent new legislation and regulations regarding the export of information or material with potential use as a weapon of mass destruction or international business competitiveness advantage. All personnel creating information, equipment or material falling within this category are now responsible to control its transfer according to regulations. NASA has created an Export Control Administrator at each Center responsible to implement a program which provides for the review, classification and approval (or disapproval) of the export of material or information which may be subject to limitations. The Center has arranged for the outreach program offices of the U.S. Customs and the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA), U.S. Department of Commerce, to conduct a brief class on their Agency's regulatory requirements in partial fulfilment of this required training. Everyone is welcome to attend, but this is a mandatory briefing for researchers, engineers and equipment developers. This session will deal with the enforcement of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR), issues of the Commerce Control List (CCL), and Export Classification Control Number (ECCN). This particular session covers the regulatory requirement for the authors of scientific, technical materials and software developers. Anyone who generates and develops such materials, or sends NASA commodities overseas must attend this session. These specifically include NRC, Ames Associates, grant recipients, students, IPA's, contractors, civil service employees and all others who publish on behalf of NASA. The EAR, CCL, ECCN are important in completing block III of the Document Availability Authorization (DAA)(Form 1676). Each session will be approximately 15-20 minutes. A question and answer session will follow after the talk. The dates, time, and location are indicated below. Attendance at one session is sufficient to fulfill the regulatory requirements. Dates Time Location May 7, 1998 10 am Bldg. 213, Rm 261 .... --------------------------------------- As the text above says, everybody is welcome to attend. CLK

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Re: NASA 'educating' scientists to restrict free speech.
by x 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you - chilling. Anyone have specifics on the "legislation"? and regulations, especially concerning "potential use as a weapon of ... international business advantage?" At 08:15 AM 4/28/98 -0700, Chris L. Kuszmaul wrote: > > > Hi, my name is Chris Kuszmaul. I am a contractor at NASA >Ames research center. I feel it would be valuable for the general >scientific community to be aware of some upcoming classes >designed to educate scientists here regarding what they may and >may not write on the internet, or any public forum. >-------------------- begin excerpt -------------------- >NASA has begun responding to recent new legislation and regulations >regarding the export of information or material with potential use as a >weapon of mass destruction or international business competitiveness >advantage. All personnel creating information, equipment or material >falling within this category are now responsible to control its transfer > >

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Quantum Snooping
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

New York Times' Markoff reports today on the latest in quantum computing, some of which was discussed here recently. Two points of note: IBM recently made a "snapshot" of the entire worldwide Web, eight trillion bytes of data, for an experimental database for searching and unnamed other manipulation by its quantum computers. Searching the database for a word by conventional computers would take a month, while quantum devices could do it in 27 minutes, a Beamer says. NSA is funding quantum computing at Los Alamos specifically for cryptographic investigation, "because QC could have a profound effect on modern cryptography." Others forms of warp speed snooping are discussed as well. --------- Restricted: "Snow Crash" is featured in a hot-selling book on the thought of the American Left, "Achieving Our Country," by philosopher Richard Rorty. The book is swell reading on the state of US thought, culture and politics whatever your disagreeable attitude. It's smallish, but for those completely broke and open to copyleft, grab it before IBM kicks it offshore: http://jya.com/161.htm (238K) http://jya.com/161.zip (89K)

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hacking smartcards
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, http://cuba.xs4all.nl/~hip/ nice info, ideas, and website. Regards, Ken Williams ORG: NC State Computer Science Dept VP of The E.H.A.P. Corp. EML: jkwilli2(a)adm.csc.ncsu.edu ehap(a)hackers.com WWW: http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ http://www.hackers.com/ehap/ PGP: finger tattooman(a)152.7.11.38

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Re: Gary Lee Burnore and His Anti-Privacy Zealots are on the Warpath!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

William J. McClatchie <wotan(a)databasix.com> wrote: > >Anti-privacy kooks like you and DataBasix CEO Gary Lee Burnore are one of > >the best arguments for the existence of anonymous remailers. You and your > >friends at DataBasix have a hard time bullying and harassing people into > >silence that you can't identify, don't you? > > And assholes like yourself are the best argument for *banning* remailers. > They serve a purpose. Unfortunately, to meet the purpose means that > assholes are also given access to the service. Your own record of harassing remailers is well known, McClatchie. Calling remailer users "assholes" and calling for content-based censorship only underscores your anti-privacy agenda. If remailer users posted only what was popular and politically correct, there would be little need for remailers. One remailer operator who was forced to shut it down mentioned your name quite prominently, BTW, in providing details about the attack. > It was someone using a remailer to harass Wells Fargo management. Can you document this? I never read a single post from anyone claiming to speak for Wells Fargo management which has substantiated this. Nor did any of the remailer operaters involved mention having received such an official complaint from member of Wells Fargo's management. So all we have is you parroting Burnore's original unsubstantiated allegations. Isn't it interesting that when something offends Gary Burnore he often resorts to "defending" phantom victims of the alleged "abuse"? And shortly thereafter, various of his sock puppets echo his whining chant. > It was someone using a remailer who has spambaited several hundred > email addresses. And one such post contained Gary Burnore's own .sig block still appended to an otherwise anonymous post. Oops! > It was someone using a remailer who wants to know if Gary Burnore's > current employer knows of his background. And if not, how could they > be contacted. > > It was someone using a remailer who posted, in direct violation of NC law > information in its registry for the sole purpose of harrassing someone. Please cite the NC law which you claim is being violated, and how it would apply to a remailer located outside of NC? Would you also say that remailers ought to censor their content to avoid other laws being broken, such as insulting the religion of Islam, publishing information about birth control, abortion, etc.? If not, why should a foreign remailer selectively enforce this one law in NC (if it even exists)? Telling people that the website exists and that a search for "Gary Lee Burnore" on it might yield a match is not more "harassing" than the site itself. If they didn't want people to access this data, why publish it on a public website? The whole purpose of the website it apparently to let people to know who the registered sex offenders are in NC and where they live. If someone snail mailed you something you considered "harassing" and included no return address, would you accuse the sender of trying to get the postal service shut down? Wow, McClatchie. I guess you have a point. If you and Gary claim that all that happened, and that it was done by someone outside of DataBasix, then I guess we should believe it and shut down all the remailers just to make sure they aren't abused... But the fact is that all too often in the past, designer "abuse" would just automagically appear at critical times when Gary Burnore and Belinda Bryan were making demands (privately, via e-mail) on another remailer operator. How would someone outside of DataBasix have known that? How would someone other than a DataBasix insider have gotten access to the complete list of DataBasix' clients and employees in order to allegedly "spam bait" them, as Belinda claimed? Your own involvement in all of these attacks seems to more than just coincidental. Speaking of abuse and harassment, Gary Burnore demanded that Jeff Burchell turn over to him all of his remailer logs containing the e-mail addresses of everyone who had either sent or received anonymous e-mail through the server. Yet Gary refuses to disclose how such a list would have been used. Fortunately for the remailer user community, no such data was ever collected. > >Lest anyone forget, Gary launched his first tirade against anonymity when > >someone tipped off his molestation victim's mother and school officials > >anonymously. > > No, one of his first complaints about remailers was after someone used one > to harass his SO of the time, and her daughter. They had committed the > heinious crime of knowing Gary. Most women would not consider it "harassment" to be informed that their daughters were being molested. Nor did she complain. Gary did! How nice of the perpetrator to be so considerate of his victim's mother and not want to have her "harassed" by knowledge of what Gary was doing to her daughter. Ignorance is bliss, huh? Gary's motives were finally revealed when he was CONVICTED for that very crime. How would a random harasser have even known of Gary's sexual activities involving minors, before he was arrested and convicted? How would he/she know the victim's gender, age, identity, and city of residence? > >Whistleblowing has always been one of the important functions > >of anonymous remailers. > > Uh huh. And we've seen real "whistleblowing" activity here. Apparently so, when the perpetrator of the crime is the only one who complains about being exposed. In case it has escaped your attention, Gary complained PUBLICLY about a PRIVATE e-mail message to his victim's mother. If telling a mother that her daughter is being molested isn't whistleblowing, what is? > Seen plenty > of abuse. Seen postings of such a vile nature from remailers that when > people made similar postings from traceable accounts, their ISP's > terminated them. And it was not becuase of content - but becuase the > messages were harassing, in both nature and intent. TRANSLATION: Anything with which the fine folks at DataBasix disagree tends to be called "harassment" and "abuse". As for intent, the accuser has the burden of proof, there. But consider this: if even mentioning Gary's sexual activities with minors is "vile", what does that make Gary for actually committing them?

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Your Opinion Matters...
by Eat Shit 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think I should walk into a Luby's Cafeteria and start blowing people away at random, for no good reason. ~ If you agree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT ~ If you disagree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT I think I should go down to a local school and start randomly slaughtering the children. ~ If you agree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT ~ If you disagree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT I think I should monitor the electronic communications of every person on the face of the earth, in order to protect them from themselves. ~ If you agree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT ~ If you disagree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT I think I should attempt being elected the leader of the most influential country in the free world, by kissing the asses of the money and power mongers. ~ If you agree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT ~ If you disagree, vote by dialing 1-800-EAT-SHIT NOTE: If you don't have a phone, you become a guest on a TV talk show where I am appearing, and cheer or boo me, according to your wishes. Remember: Your opinion matters...NOT! EatShitMonger

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Wiretap Docs
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association suit against the FBI over disputed wiretap requirements of CALEA: http://jya.com/ctia-fbi.htm (19K) The FBI's definition of "upgrade" and "modification" for CALEA wiretap requirements, Federal Register, April 28, 1998: http://jya.com/fbi042898.txt (60K)

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ECHELON 1988
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Duncan Campbell has provided his 1988 article on the NSA ECHELON global surveillance system, one of the earliest accounts: http://jya.com/echelon-dc.htm Duncan, who was hounded in court for years by the UK gov for allegedly revealing official secrets, provided substantial support to James Bamford for "The Puzzle Palace." He was interviewed about ECHELON on French TV yesterday. See his most informative Web site for investigative reporting: http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan

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Lose 20 pounds in 2 weeks
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17 Dec '03

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Why does the Navy research onion routing?
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why does the Navy research onion routing? Only reason I can think of is so that .mil can study other sites anonymously, or communicate amongst themselves using anonymous-routing-tech to avoid traffic analysis. The other practical possibility is that they're happy to have smart CS people and will fund whatever they want to do, just to keep them. ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu "I actually thought Silicon Valley was where women went to get fixed." ---LA Mayor Richard Riordan 98.02.19

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FBI scans public-access terminal used by Lewinsky
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone remember PROMIS? http://www.drudgereport.com/1.htm#1 excerpt: FBI agents working the Starr probe zeroed in on PARCEL PLUS in early February, it has been learned. Agents conducted interviews and spent hours with the store's computer. "They were digging around in the computer's guts," a store source explains, "below DOS." STARR's team interviewed the store's owner and two other employees -- with one employee taking a trip down to Starr's office for questioning. Investigators have left nothing to chance: subpoenaing detailed information from PARCEL PLUS' local Internet provider and digging up all of the store's phone records via BELL ATLANTIC. ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu "I actually thought Silicon Valley was where women went to get fixed." ---LA Mayor Richard Riordan 98.02.19

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Toto 2 - Tim May 0
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vancouver, British Columbia: Criminalization of Insanity: Turn a mental hospital with 6,000 patients into a mental hospital with 500 patients. Criminalization of Poverty: Make panhandling a crime, subject to a $2,000.00 fine. [I won! I won!!!] Toto

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Army, Navy and Alt2600 Farce
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

## Anon-To: Pretty Lousy Privacy <plp(a)dev.null> :: Subject: POP Secret Communication / Boil in oil after Reading!!! COMING IN ON A WING AND DISPAIR (29 April 1998) Pilots are leaving the Air Force like fleas jumping off a dead dog. If this exodus in blue doesnt stop, there wont be anyone left to fly the existing megabuck fleet of aircraft or the trillion dollar fleet of space-age new fighters the Air Force wants for the 21st century. Without pilots its going to be even harder to justify all these costly new silver bullets when a congressperson or two without bases or flying machine plants back home comes asking, "Who needs these suckers when missiles, robots, bugs and germs, and 16-year-old hackers will be the weapons of the future?" http://www.hackworth.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "That wasn't hacking, cracking and phreaking...that was 'unauthorized military training'!" ~ Lou Tenant, Graham (Cracker) Johnny (DuneWadd) Buller (Shit) AttackAdamMe of Computron Seances and Waste Drugsposal

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The Epilogue That Never Was - SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!!
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Epilogue That Never Was - SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!! ________________________________________________________ Memoirs of a Visible Man: When you are 'different' from others--inherently, irrevocably, unarguably different--you either learn to remain, as much as possible, invisible, or you spend much of your life in various sorts of prisons, subject to various kinds of punishments. There have always been a few 'safe havens' for those guilty of the crime of being different from those around them, although, for the most part, they have historically tended to be 'dangerous' safe havens such as pirate or merchant ships, new world colonies, fringe religious or political movements. Those with wits, who didn't mind joining the ranks of the lower fringes of society, in return for ostensibly remaining within it, could become court jesters, actors, artists, and the like. With the advent of the Age of Electonics and the rise of Virtual Reality, those who are able to remain within society's outer boundaries by comically or entertainingly mirroring the parts of the human psyche and human emotions that society requires its 'regular' members to repress have become elite, well-paid artisians who are recognized as valuable professionals in the Age of Form Over Substance. For those in the lower strata of society who are unable to successfully graduate from Society's Finishing School--usually as a result of answering "Fuck You, Shit For Brains" to questions where a "Yes Sir/Officer/YourHonor" answer is required--there are no longer many physical locations available where one can escape to , which results in the creation of an increasing number of them being labeled 'criminals' and banished to New World Order colonies consisting of six-foot cabins bounded by iron bars. Those in the higher strata of society who are unable or unwilling to live within the boundaries society requires of the masses often have the option of joining an elite group of criminal-actors who have sufficient firepower at their command to bully the others in society into recognizing their authority to disobey all of society's rules and act in their own self-interest while denying they are doing so by telling blatant and outrageous lies. (Those with a particular talent in this area sometimes reach the epitome of politics, in which the masses consider them to be every bit as 'real' as the 'people' on 'As The World Turns.' They are then free to do everything that Soap Opera actors do, with equal impunity from facing the real-life consequences that come from manslaughter, rape, robbery, marriage and drug-addiction--although they are still subject to the laws of physics when playing ski-football.) In the Glory Days of Virtual Reality, before the ElectroMagnetic Curtain began descending around those lured away from InterNet Free Terra and into the Sticky World Wide Web of the InfoMercial Highway Robbers, there were a few true Rennaisance Criminal Genius Elite who recognized that they could settle down from a life on the run--in small prairie towns such as Bienfait, Saskatchewan--and still live wild and free, riding the Virtual Outlaw Trail through the Alt2600 BadLands, robbing DataBanks, engaging in drunken brawls in the CypherPunks CryptoSaloon, partying with Bound and Gagged Asian DanceHall UnderAge Girls being pimped by Adult Check, and having the rugged good looks of Robert Redford, in an ASCII Art kind of way. Once the Information Railway began being replaced by the Information Highway as a comfortable, convenient way for the masses to journey into what were formerly remote Electronic Wilderness Areas, the outlaws and free-stinkers who had formerly been able to remain, for the most part, invisible to the programmed masses, yearning to keep other minds from being free, found themselves subject to the scrutiny of those who recognized that free-range cattle and penned sheep could not peacefully coexist in a merchant society where corporate mergers to create Company Towns, with Company Stores, would be jeopardized by small-time rustlers and fence-cutters. Thus there arose a need for ElectroMagnetic Law and Order, supported by the muddled assholes, struggling to be Freeh. The Lost Train of Thought (Part I): ...uuuhhhhh... The Runaway Train of Thought Is Melted Down To Build The WhatIf Server: WhatIf: A ClueLess Canuck, turned into a MindBot by the Institute of Applied Metaphysics in preparation for the Moscow Olympics, was culled from a Russian language class full of Canadian Mounties at the University of Regina by a Dark Continent TigerTeam agent and trained in Psychic Warfare? WhatIf: A DoubleShinned Agent trained at the Psycho War Fair travelled to Africa with a Nuclear Physicist who was the youngest President at Oberlin College, and met with his TigerTeam controllers in a bar full of sailors from the U.S.S. Enterprise in the heart of Mombassa, as other members of his travelling group were engaged in a 'tour' of a US Navy ship? WhatIf: A ClassLess Canuck highly trained in the Lack of Social Skills travelled to East Germany and Poland shortly after the Fall of the Wall, y'all, crossing the Polish border illegally to meet with members of the Little Nicky Telsa Fan Club at the same time that the ShakeSpearAtIan NukeKingLear PharmAssist (who got glowing reviews for the Polish translation of his work) was in Moscow, paying pipers and pimps to play the tunes called by his Muppet Pastors for the NuclearPowered Dancing Bears? Qu'est Que C'est: A Psychic Killer To Be Named Later was apprehended fleeing Poland, but walked away a free MindBot before the InTerraGators arrived, after paying a seventy Mark Antony Fine to a 'confused' Polish border guard, and was then intercepted upon his arrival back in the United States by US Customs agents instructed to hold him for interrogation regarding his US passport with a Polish exit stamp, but no Polish visa or entrance stamp, and then slipped away after the 'confused' agents merely confiscated his Black Forest Ham and released him, whereupon he quickly slipped off to a different airport to take a small plane to Nantucket to meet a female agent of the Holy Roman Empire instructed to arrange for his transfer to a private yacht bound for a private compound of Nazi BusinessWar Criminals on a nearby island famous for their Celebrity Midnight Marathon Swim and Drunken Driving and Diving Festival? WhatIf: A Dangerously Drunken Psychotic PissAnt Drug-Addicted Dumb-Ass Shit-Disturber To Be Maimed Later concocted some wild, unbelievable story to fuck with the mimes of the MimeFuckers, but all the details of his mad ramblings were already a verifiably true part of the SecretGuys' SecretGuyFiles, and even a cursory investigation would reveal even more conspiratorial concepts concerning his connection to a Forth Freudian Sufi Sect dedicated to Anti-NukeUnclear Publishing of Libertarian Mathematical GreenPeace OverGround GoreVillain Manuals designed to apply Laws of Form to a ChaosKult attack on the Fourth JavaCup Active-X-Files Implementation of A Disturbed CraptoLogical LISP MamboErs' Secret Agenda to Subvert Authority by making the Ship of Goverment list so far to the left that the Titanic balls of the Hermerphodite Aunt E. Christ are cut off as she slides over the rail, into the sea, emerging from the depths as Anne R. Christ who is Lucky enough to surface in time to hitch a ride on the Millenium Bug just before the Reptilian Nazi GermanAmericans circle the VolksWagons in a Two-Byte Double Donut formation to prepare for the attack of Naieve Americans with Wounded Knees whose Peyote Dreams predict that an Elvis whose Aim Is True will use Broken Arrows to cut off the Forked Tongues of the Serpentine Servants of Satan living in secret underground bunkers beneath both the AdamAntArctic and Mule Shoe, Texas, in the Land of the Freeh? WhatIf: Incompetent Secret Agents To Be Framed Later gave up on purporting to properly protect National Security <flags digitally wave> <Matt's trumpets Blaze FORTH> in order to fail in their efforts to find a single innocent child to save from drugs dealers at the PROM, and, in their frustration at not being able to find the <ANY> Key which will connect them to the ClueServer, hit the <DELETE> key instead, erasing the cleverly crafted composition of the Author, admitting an astounding array of in-depth illegal involvement in countless consciously conspiratorial causes aimed at the overthrow of OverLords oppressing opponents of Fucking FreehDumb Privacy Pirates purloining the Leftist Constitutional Rights of silly, sufficiently subdued SheepIzens subverting their own Freedom, Liberty and Privacy, as well as their right to Free Rum, the USS Liberty and Piracy? WhatIf: You slapped yourself on the forehead, mystified as to how the Author managed to once again sucker you into reading the mindless trash that is placed inside his skull by psychic garbage-pickers who step on his foot, lifting his toupee, and toss in the leftover thoughts that were pruned from the minds of the vegetables planted in the Home For The Criminally Insane too early in the year to avoid being cold-cocked by the FrostBack of Notre Dame, initiated in Wilcox, Saskatchewan, into a Circle of Eunuchs Chapter of Eternity Cult known as the Hockey Hounds of Hell On Ice? WhatIf: Jesus Saves, but Gretsky puts in the rebounds? (c) 1999.9, ADualist Huxter (Part IV of 'The Whores Of Deception')

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Welcome to The New York Times on the Web
by verify＠nytimes.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: DNA = puppet masters?
by Illuminatus Primus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I read an interesting short sci fi story that suggested that the interactions of DNA represented the language of a higher organism; that humans and other DNA-based life forms were merely the carriers. On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Frederick Burroughs wrote: > > > Dan Veeneman wrote: > > > For real paranoia fodder, check out the burgeoning biometrics field. > > As the recent news regarding the Vietnam era Unknown Soldier at Arlington > National Cemetery illustrates, biometrics will increasingly define who we > are. Accomplishments and monuments will fall to bits. The bits of you extend > before your birth and after your death, you are but a placeholder for a > mitochondrial dna profile. > > Will this resolution of organisms to digits open us to exploitation and limit > our access to opportunities? What demon is forcing this template upon our > very being? > >

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Netcenter News - Volume 6 - April 1998
by netcenter-news＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Title: Netscape Netcenter News - April 1998 Welcome to Netcenter Netcenter is dedicated to the proposition that you should be able to find everything you need online in one place. This newsletter is one of the free benefits you receive when registering with a Netcenter program. Each month we'll link to a survey for Netcenter members. Check back the following month to see the results. This month's survey is Attention Small-Business Users. Netcenter will be launching a small-business site for you. Tell us what you'd like to see there. Is the travel agent industry becoming extinct? Are the best bargains on the Net? The next Professional Connections Event Series features interviews with experts in the exploding field of online travel. Visit Professional Connections, and join the discussion. Do you still experience the web in two dimensions? Download the free Netscape Communicator 4.05 with the Cosmo Player plug-in for a new 3D experience. We've found a utility at Netscape Software Depot by software.net, for a special price, that lets you view hundreds of file types in Netscape Navigator! Inso's Quick View Plus has won awards from PC Computing and PC Magazine. Download your copy today! This issue of Netcenter News is brought to you by In-Box Direct. NETCENTER'S BUSINESS JOURNAL BY NEWSEDGE: INTELLIGENCE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS No time to visit all the business-related sites that help you get your job done? Let Netcenter's Business Journal by NewsEdge do the surfing for you. Business Journal features the best, most relevant news and business information from the most trusted and authoritative publications in the world. Choose from over 2500 topics covering 20 different industries. Such a broad variety of topics and categories allows for incredible granularity in the information you receive. When you register for Business Journal, you can automatically create a personalized My News page that delivers the news that matters most to you. Your news comes to you fast and is updated throughout the day, which means that you're more likely to get that one critical piece of data in time to solve a problem, beat a competitor, or make you a bundle. Business Journal gives you news and business information the way you think, work, and conduct business. It's powerful. Spend ten minutes a day with us, and imagine what you can accomplish with this kind of intelligence at your fingertips. Business Journal is your one-stop knowledge management tool. Have you seen In-Box Direct's Personal Finance section? While you're there, sharpen your investment skills with a free subscription to such publications as Armchair Millionaire News, CBS MarketWatch NewsWatch, and CNNfn Market Briefing. Talk about the latest web trends in Professional Connections, Netcenter's online discussion forums. Then stop by Member Directory to reach other professionals with interests similar to yours. Special offer from Music Boulevard: Save $5 on your next order. Whether you're into rock, jazz, classical, or rap, it's on sale for you now at Music Boulevard. Netscape respects your online time and Internet privacy. If you would prefer not to receive future issues, click here to send an unsubscribe email or reply to this message with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Copyright © 1998. Netscape Communications Corporation. All rights reserved.

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Ajtai Lattice Patent
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

30 April 1998, Micropatent: Cryptosystem employing worst-case difficult-to solve lattice problem (Assignee -- International Business Machines Corporation) Abstract: A cryptosystem and cryptographic method are provided for performing tasks such as encoding/decoding, signing messages, and verifying identity. The system and method employ a problem which is difficult to solve in the worst case. Because of the worst-case nature of the problem employed, a system and method according to the invention has advantageous level of security, In a class of preferred embodiments, the difficult problem is one of the recognized difficult problems associated with the mathematical theory of lattices. These problems include finding short vectors and sets of basis vectors from a lattice. Cryptographic protocols are performed, using these problems. Ex Claim Text: A cryptographic communications system A comprising: a communications channel; means for generating a public key and a corresponding private key based on an instance of a problem, the problem being difficult to solve in the worst case, the instance of the problem being difficult to solve, commensurate with the difficulty of the worst-case solution of the problem; and means for performing a cryptographic communication protocol, employing the public and private keys generated by the means for generating, with another cryptographic communications system B over the communications channel. Patent Number: 5737425 Issue Date: 1998 04 07 Inventor(s): Ajtai, Miklos If you would like to purchase a copy of this patent, please call MicroPatent at 800-648-6787.

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Bad, bad, bill
by Corvus Corvax 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NYT this morning reports the that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act was adopted by the Senate Judiciary Committee: "WASHINGTON - The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday adopted the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which takes a new step toward protecting creative content in cyberspace by outlawing the equipment used to commit a copyright infringement, not just the act or intent of illegally copying material. ... Most visibly absent was any exemption for devices used in encryption research, an issue Senate leaders said they hope to work out before the bill goes to the floor. " There's been a good deal of discussion of this issue around here, to be sure. But I think maybe it bears repeating that even with some kind of narrow exemption for "encryption research", this bill is conveniently poised to be used not only against Evil Copyright Infringers, but also against the kind of troublemakers that expose, for instance, the deliberate weakening of GSM authentication. Gawd. What bullshit. 571830573294323629934765012348436263285853260687657402192238 Corvus Corvax 324908584730535672342307543875016719214012473014020239437239 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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US legal system
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday 5/1/98 10:02 AM Yaman Akdeniz The US court system has largely deteriorated to become part of the US Federal bureaucracy [aka Big Brother ... or probably more accurate, the Great Satan http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm and http://caq.com/CAQ/caq63/caq63madsen.html] 1 Judges and court clerks try to do what they want whether it conflicts with law or not. 2 Lawyers and the US court system attempt to make it appear that there IS NO LEGAL REMEDY POSSIBLE without hiring a lawyer. And the client will most likely lose both money and the case. Morales and I [http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm] are trying to change 1 and 2. Later bill Wednesday 4/1/98 11:02 AM Certified Return receipt requested Proctor Hug Jr Chief Judge, Ninth Circuit 50 West Liberty Street Reno, NV 89501-1948 (702) 784-5631 784-5166 fax Dear judge Hug: Purposes of this letter-affidavit are to file criminal complaint affidavits against 1 judge Marilyn Hall Patel for not properly processing a criminal violation of the Privacy Act, 2 former Ninth Circuit chief judge J Clifford Wallace for not properly processing criminal complaint affidavits for a felony perjury violation by Sandia National Laboratories lawyer Gregory Cone, b judge Fern Smith for not properly processing a felony perjury violation by Sandia National Laboratories lawyer Gregory Cone. c Albuquerque FBI special agent in charge Thomas Kneir for sending FBI agents Kohl and Schum to my home in an attempt to intimidate me from exercising my civil rights. d Margret D. Thomas, Judicial Assistant to the Honorable Marilyn Hall Patel, for not forwarding a valid criminal complaint affidavit regarding a criminal violation of the Privacy Act to Patel. Brief history would be valuable for your understanding of this matter. Sandia has long been involved with the security of America's nuclear arsenal. As they announce on their website: "We are funded primarily by the U.S. Department of Energy to design all the non-nuclear opponents of the nation's nuclear weapons" http://www.sandia.gov/">http://www.sandia.gov/</a>). This includes the cryptographic locks used to secure the nukes. NSA supplies the algorithms and implementation guidelines to Sandia. http://www.aci.net/kalliste/nukearse.htm In about 1982 I became project leader of the Missile Secure Cryptographic Unit [MSCU]. The MSCU was funded by the National Security Agency [NSA]. As a result of my about 4 year work with NSA, I was given access to its cryptographic algorithms by one document and many electronic schematics. I wrote a book ISBN: 0125475705 Title: Embedded Controller Forth For The 8051 Family Author: Payne Cover: Hardback/Cloth Imprint: Academic Press Published: September 1990 http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2 about the software technology we used for the MSCU. In 1986 I transferred to build the data authenticator for the Department of Energy's Deployable Seismic Verification System [DSVS]for the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty [CTBT]. NSA liaison for the DSVS/CTBT project offered information to me that NSA regarded former president Reagan as one of the US's foremost traitors for the reason First, U.S. President Ronald Reagan informed the world on national television that the United States was reading Libyan communications. This admission was part of a speech justifying the retaliatory bombing of Libya for its alleged involvement in the La Belle discotheque bombing in Berlin's Schoeneberg district, where two U.S. soldiers and a Turkish woman were killed, and 200 others injured. Reagan wasn't talking about American monitoring of Libyan news broadcasts. Rather, his "direct, precise, and undeniable proof" referred to secret (encrypted) diplomatic communication between Tripoli and the Libyan embassy in East Berlin. http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm which is further explained at http://caq.com/CAQ/caq63/caq63madsen.html It may be the greatest intelligence scam of the century: For decades, the US has routinely intercepted and deciphered top secret encrypted messages of 120 countries. In early 1992 a Sandia labs director decided that he and his subordinates were going to enter the data authentication business. The director transferred me to break electronic locks for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This work was funded by the FBI/Engineering Research Facility [FBI/ERF], Quantico, VA. I ordered about $200,000 of the FBI/ERF's money buying two copies of electronic locks. One lock I ordered was the Hirsch Scramblepad electronic lock. In about 1991 I was following progress of lawsuits in the district of Northern California, The first two cases to directly address the issue of intermediate copying both originated in California's Northern District Court. They are Atari v. Nintendo and Sega v. Accolade. In both cases, the district court found that intermediate copying was NOT fair use. [The New Use of Fair Use: Accessing Copyrighted Programs Through Reverse Engineering, Stephen B. Maebius, Journal of the Patent and Trademark Office Society, June 1993, 75, n6, p433] Judge Fern Smith presided in both cases. Reason I was following Atari v Nintendo was that I my Forth book I have two chapters on reverse engineering software. One chapter contains a computer program which copied a ROM BIOS to diskette. Smith's decisions made my intermediate copying program illegal. In a strong opinion she [Fern Smith] wrote in March 1991, when granting Nintendo's request for a preliminary injunction against Atari, she lambasted Atari's lawyers for thievery. I was given the job assignment to copy the ROMs of Hirsch's 8051-based Scramblepad electronic lock to reverse engineer them to hopefully allow me to modify the locks for allow surreptitious entry. I refused to engage in illegal activity for the FBI. The termination letter seen at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm states This is to advise you that effective July 27, 1992, you will be terminated from Sandia National Laboratories. This action is the results of your flagrant attack on a valued Sandia customer and repeated insensitivity to security/classification requirement. These acts violate Sandia National Laboratories Code of Conduct, specifically the Personal Conduct section,, and the Safeguarding Information and Records Section. ... for my whistleblowing SAND report on the National Security Agency's deficient work and refusing to mark classified on a report I and Danny Drummond wrote on how to fake Wiegand Wire access entry credentials for the FBI. Both I and my EEOC complaint officer Ray Armenta were never able to determine exactly why I was fired. However March 22, 1997 I received copies of the enclosed 1 April 15, 1994 letter to EEOC director Charles Burtner from Sandia Diversity Leadership director Michael G. Robles. 2 July 27, 1997 Termination of Employment memorandum containing my signature. 3 DISCIPLINARY REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES, July 16, 1992. 4 DISCIPLINARY REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES, July 6, 1989. 5 September 6, 1995 letter from EEOC Investigator Larry J. Trujillo to Richard Gallegos. from Sandian Richard Gallegos. Sandia lawyer Harold Folley previously stated that no documents existed. The Privacy Act states (d) Access to Records.--Each agency that maintains a system of records shall-- (1) upon request by any individual to gain access to his record or to any information pertaining to him which is contained in the system, permit him and upon his request, a person of his own choosing to accompany him, to review the record and have a copy made of all or any portion thereof in a form comprehensible to him, except that the agency may require the individual to furnish a written statement authorizing discussion of that individual's record in the accompanying person's presence; The Sandia Disciplinary Review Committee NEVER interviewed me to check the veracity of their statements. The Privacy Act states (2) permit the individual to request amendment of a record pertaining to him and-- The statements in the SDRC are incorrect. I followed all Sandia procedures known to me. I did nothing wrong. I had no opportunity to defend myself. My rights guaranteed under the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Article XIV. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. have been violated. C My permission was never asked to release these records to Gallegos. As you may realize about the Privacy Act (b) Conditions of Disclosure.--No agency shall disclose any record which is contained in a system of records by any means of communication to any person, or to another agency, except pursuant to a written request by, or with the prior written consent of, the individual to whom the record pertains ... The Privacy Act allows imposition of criminal penalties for those like members of the SDRC, Robles, Burtner, and Trujillo who (i)(1) Criminal Penalties.--Any officer or employee of an agency, who by virtue of his employment or official position, has possession of, or access to, agency records which contain individually identifiable information the disclosure of which is prohibited by this section or by rules or regulations established thereunder, and who knowing that disclosure of the specific material is so prohibited, willfully discloses the material in any manner to any person or agency not entitled to receive it, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000. (2) Any officer or employee of any agency who willfully maintains a system of records without meeting the notice requirements of subsection (e)(4) of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and fined not more than $5,000. I forward criminal complaint affidavits on the above individuals to selected magistrate judge Marilyn Hall Patel. Patel ignored my complaints. I return to the subject of breaking electronic locks for the FBI/ERF. Smith's two decisions were overturned on appeal. However, both cases have been overruled on appeal. In the ground-breaking Atari decision, the Federal Circuit held that intermediate copying was a fair use. The Sega decision, which was appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, similarly overruled the district court and held that intermediate copying may be fair use. Sandia patents and trademark lawyer Gregory A. Cone in the enclosed affidavit for a ADEA lawsuit I filed in the District of New Mexico stated AFFIDAVIT OF GREGORY A. CONE Gregory A. Cone, being duly sworn, deposes and states: 1. I am employed by Sandia Corporation. I am an attorney admitted to practice law in the State of California and before the U. S. Patent and Trademark Office and concentrate on legal issues related to patent and copyright law. In that capacity, I am familiar with activities at the Sandia National Laboratories ("Sandia") as they related to what is sometimes referred to as "reverse engineering ." ... [I]t is the general view at Sandia that disassembly of "object code" under such circumstances constitutes a "fair use" of copyrighted software under 17 U.S.C. article 107 and is thus permissible. Sandia bases its view on Sega Enterprises v. Accolade, Inc. 977 F.2d 1510, 24 U.S.P. Q. 2d 1561 (9th Cir. 1992), amended, 1993 U. S. App. LEXIS 78, and Atari Games Corp v. Nintendo of America, Inc, 975 F.2d 832 (Fed. Cir. 1992). ... FURTHER, Affidavit sayeth naught. (signed) GREGORY A. CONE SUBSCRIBED, SWORN TO and ACKNOWLEDGED before me on this 12th day of August, 1993, by Gregory A. Cone." (signed) Mary A. Resnick Notary Public My Commission Expires: 2-7-94 Cone has the two citations reversed. The U. S. Patent Quarterly references the Atari v Nintendo lawsuit 1510 should be corrected to 1015. Cone issued the above affidavit to District of New Mexico federal court in attempt to show that I had no legal reason to refuse to reverse engineer the Hirsch Scramblepad electronic lock. I was covered under 10 C.F.R. 708 - DOE CONTRACTOR EMPLOYEE PROTECTION PROGRAM for my refusal to reverse engineer the Hirsch Scramblepad code. 708.1 Purpose, This part establishes procedures for timely and effective processing of complaints by employees of contractors performing work at sites owned or leased by the Department of Energy (DOE), concerning alleged discriminatory actions taken by their employers in retaliation for the disclosure of information relative to health and safety, mismanagement, and other matters as provided in 708.5(a), for participation in proceeding before Congress, or for the refusal to engage in illegal or dangerous activities." ... Cone's affidavit attempts to create the appearance that reverse engineering was legal before July 27, 1992, the date of my firing. Title 18, Chapter 79, Article 1623 felony perjury. Article 1623 - False declarations before grand jury or court (a) Whoever under oath (or in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code) in any proceeding before or ancillary to any court or grand jury of the United States knowingly make any false material declaration or makes or uses any other information, including any book, paper, document, record, recording, or other material, knowing the same to contain any false material declaration, shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Decision of the Atari Games Corp. v. Nintendo of America appeal cited at page 1016 from 24 USPQ 2d was Decided SEPTEMBER 10, 1992. I was fired JULY 27, 1992 so my work assignment was illegal at the time I refused. Therefore, Cone committed felony perjury IN WRITING filed with New Mexico District Federal Court. Chronological review of criminal complaint affidavits would be valuable before I present the current criminal complaint affidavits. 1 Monday March 11, 1996 10:05 I wrote judge Fern Smith a certified return receipt requested letter to ask her to either arrange or personally indict Sandia lawyer Cone for felony perjury. Smith did not respond. 2 Friday May 31, 1996 08:58 I write the criminal complaint affidavit for the arrest of Sandia lawyer Cone and appoint judge Fern Smith as magistrate. 3 Thursday June 13 on orders of Smith and Albuquerque FBI special agent in charge Thomas Kneir FBI agents Kohl and Schum visited my home at 17:08 to investigate me for sending letters referenced in 1 and 2 to Smith. 4 In response to 3 on Tuesday July 9, 1996 06:52 I filed criminal complaint affidavit against Cone, again, for felony perjury with J. Clifford Wallace, chief judge, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Smith for § 4. Misprision of felony Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. for Smith's failure to properly process Cone's felony perjury and § 241. Conspiracy against rights If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; ... for sending, with Knier, FBI agents Kohl and Schum to my home in an attempt to intimidate me. Knier for Conspiracy against rights for his complicity with Smith. 5 Monday July 15, 1996 06:23 I write Wallace again inquiring why he has not responded. 6 August 15, 1996 Thursday Ms. Corina Orozco, Deputy Clerk, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals writes me to tell me In the future, all correspondence should be addressed to the Clerk of the Court. Do not address any correspondence to any one specific judge of this court. 7 September 12, 1996 06:20 I inform Orozco by letter that she is obstructing justice. I ask Orozco to desist. 8 July 25, 1996 Senior Case Expeditor [sic], Gwen Baptiste from the Office of the Clerk, United States Court of Appeals for The Ninth Circuit, writes Re: Complaint of Judicial Misconduct We have received your complaint of judicial misconduct. Pursuant to the Rules of the Judicial Council of the Ninth Circuit Governing Complaints of Judicial Misconduct or Disability, you complaint is being returned to you for compliance with the above rules. A copy of these rules is enclosed. To understand the purpose of the procedure and who may be complaint about please refer to Rules 1 and 2. 9 Wednesday September 18, 1996 11:05 by certified, return receipt requested mail I write Wallace again told tell him Lawyer Wallace, I did not intend to file or did I file a complaint of judicial misconduct. Lawyer Wallace, I filed a criminal complaint affidavit as I have a right to as a citizen of the United States of America when the criminal acts are committed by government personnel, their contractors, Department of Justice and judicial personnel. 10 Wednesday November 27, 1996 09:18 I wrote certified, return receipt requested letter to inform Wallace Purpose of this letter is to inform you of consequences of your failure to perform your duties as required by law as magistrate judge. You are committing felony violations of law. and If I have not complied with all applicable rules, then I ask that you inform me of any non-compliance so that I can correct my criminal complaints and re-submit them. I satisfied the requirement of the Constitution and Rules 3 and 4, and issued written and sworn complaints that set forth the essential facts constituting the offenses charged against Smith, Kneir, and Cone. I also showed facts showing that the offenses were committed by Smith, Kneir and Cone and these individuals committed them. So I ask that you do your job and proceed with supervision of the arrest and prosecution of Smith, Kneir, and Cone for title 18 felony violations of law. 11 Monday March 24, 1997 17:57 I write a certified - return receipt requested letter to Marilyn Hall Patel, District Judge; California, Northern to inform her she has been selected as magistrate to process the criminal complaint affidavit against Sandia Diversity Director Michael G. Robles for sending the enclosed SDRC report to Burtner of EEOC. Robles did this without my written permission and without checking the accuracy of the information. The information contained in the SDRC report is false and defaming. 12 Monday April 21, 1997 13:44 I write Patel a certified - return receipt requested letter containing a criminal complaint affidavit against Charles L Burtner, Director, U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission [EEOC] Larry J. Trujillo, Investigator, Phoenix District Office for sending the false and libelous enclosed documents to Richard Gallegos in Albuquerque without my written consent. 13 Thursday May 8, 1997 06:30 I write a certified - return receipt requested to Patel containing Purpose of this letter is to file a criminal complaint affidavit against Sandia National Laboratories [Sandia] Disciplinary Review Committee members and attendees G. H. Libman, R.A. Polocasz, D. B. Davis, M. E. Courtney, W. R. Geer, C. A. Searls, J. D. Giachino, R. L. Ewing, A. M. Torneby, R. B. Craner, C. W. Childers, E. Dunckel, D. S. Miyoshi, J. J McAuliffe, J. D. Martin, and R. C. Bonner for violation of the criminal penalties section of the Privacy Act, 5 USC 552a(i)(2) and Title 18 felony violations of Civil Rights, Section 241, Conspiracy against right to citizens. for their roles in maintaining an illegal system of records. Sandia refused to acknowledge existence of the enclosed SDRC report and for denying my rights guaranteed under the Constitution. I was never interviewed by the SDRC committee or had any chance to defend my self against the false and defaming claims of the SDRC. 14 Friday June 13, 1997 12:41 I write a certified, return receipt requested to Wallace containing a criminal complaint affidavit against Margret D. Thomas, Judicial Assistant to the Honorable Marilyn Hall Patel for violating § 1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant ... (C) prevent the communication by any person to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense ... (3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. for writing on May 9, 1997 Dear Mr. Payne: We are in receipt of your recent letters. Please be advised that we do not issue warrants on criminal proceeding absent an indictment, information or complaint initiated by the United States Attorney. For this reason, and by copy of this letter, we are referring this matter to that office. Any future correspondence concerning these events should be sent to the United States Attorney and not to judge Patel. Thank you. Very truly yours, MARGARET D. THOMAS Judicial Assistant to the Honorable Marilyn Hall Patel cc: Joel Levin Criminal Section Assistant United States Attorney Judge Hug, Rule 3 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, entitled the Complaint provides: The complaint is a written statement of the essential facts constituting the offense charged. It shall be made upon oath before a magistrate. As you may be aware, An individual may "make a written complaint on oath before an examining and committing magistrate, and obtain a warrant of arrest." This is in conformity with the Federal Constitution, and "consonant with the principles of natural justice and personal liberty found in the common law." [United States v Kilpatrick (1883, DC NC) 16G 765, 769] You may also be aware, A complaint though quite general in terms is valid if it sufficiently apprises the defendant of the nature of the offense with which he is charged. [United States v Wood (1927, DC Tex) 26F2d 908, 910, affd (CA5 Tex) 26 F2d 912.] And for your edification, The commission of a crime must be shown by facts positively stated. The oath or affirmation required is of facts and not opinions or conclusion. [United States ex rel. King v Gokey (1929, DC NY) 32 F2d 93, 794] The complaint must be accompanied by an oath. [Re Rules of Court (1877, CC Ga) 3 Woods 502, F Cas No 2126] A complaint must be sworn to before a commissioner or other officer empowered to commit persons charged with offenses against the United States. [United States v Bierley ( 1971, WD Pa) 331 F Supp 1182] Such office is now called a magistrate. A complaint is ordinarily made by an investigating officer or agent, and where private citizens seek warrants of arrest, the practice recommended by the Judicial Conference of the United States is to refer the complaint to the United States Attorney. However, further reference to him is rendered futile where a mandamus proceeding is brought to compel him to prosecute and he opposes the proceeding. [Pugach v Klein (1961, SD NY) 193 F Supp 630, citing Manual for United States Commissioners 5 (1948)] Any attempt to bring criminal complaints to government authorities would, of course, be futile. I am a citizen of the United States and, judge Hug, you are the assigned magistrate. In order to satisfy the requirement of the Constitution and Rules 3 and 4, a written and sworn complaint should set forth the essential facts constituting the offense charged and also facts showing that the offense was committed and that the defendant committed it. And, As to the requirement that the complaint be made on personal knowledge of the complainant, it is enough for the issuance of a warrant that a complainant shows it to be on the knowledge of the complainant. [Giordenello v United States (1958) 357 US 480, 2 L Ed. 2d 1503, 78 S Ct 1245, rev. (Ca5 Tx) 241 F2d 575, 579 in accord Rice v Ames (1901) 180 US 371, 45 L Ed 577, 21 S ct 406, and United States v Walker, (1952, CA2 NY) 197 F 2d 287, 289, cert den 344 US 877, 97 L Ed 679, 73 S Ct 172] So as to keep contiguous the requirements of the law ad the criminal complaint affidavit, I will include these complaints in this letter to you. CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT: J Clifford Wallace Essential material facts are: 1 Tuesday July 9, 1996 06:52 Payne files criminal complaint affidavit on Sandia lawyer Cone for felony perjury with J Clifford Wallace, chief judge, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and judge Fern Smith for Misprision of felony for failure to prosecute Cone and Conspiracy against rights for sending, with FBI Albuquerque agent-in-charge Knier, FBI agents Kohl and Schum to Payne's home in an attempt to intimidate Payne. 2 Repeated attempts by certified return receipt requested mail to urge Wallace to do his job enumerated to 5-10 and 14 above in this letter go unanswered. Count 1 Wallace made no attempt to bring lawyer Cone to justice despite possessing WRITTEN evidence of criminal activity. Therefore, Wallace is charged with Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony for Wallace's failure to properly process criminal complaint affidavit. Count 2 Wallace made no attempt to bring judge Fern Smith to justice despite possessing WRITTEN evidence of misprision of felony for not properly processing the criminal complaint affidavit against lawyer Cone and § 1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant for sending FBI agents Kohl and Schum to Payne's home in an attempt to intimidate Payne. Therefore , Wallace is charged with Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony for Wallace's failure to properly process a criminal complaint affidavit. Count 3 Wallace made no attempt to bring FBI agent-in-charge to justice for violation of § 1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant for sending FBI agents Kohl and Schum to Payne's home in an attempt to intimidate Payne. Wallace is charged with Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony for Wallace's failure to properly process a criminal complaint affidavit. Count 4 Wallace made no attempt to bring MARGARET D. THOMAS to justice for violation of § 1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant ... for writing Thomas' May 9, 1997 to Payne. Wallace is charged with Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony for Wallace's failure to properly process a criminal complaint affidavit. VERIFICATION Under penalty of perjury as provided by law, the undersigned certifies pursuant to 28 USC section 1746 that material factual statements set forth in this criminal complaint are true and correct, except as to any matters therein stated to be information and belief of such matters the undersigned certifies as aforesaid that the undersigned verily believes the same to be true. Date William H. Payne 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 505-292-7037 CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT: Marilyn Hall Patel Essential material facts are: 1 Patel failed to respond to certified return receipt requested criminal complaint affidavits specified in 11 - 13 in this letter. Count 1 Patel made did not properly process criminal complaint affidavits despite being in possession of documents showing criminal violations of the Privacy Act and violation of civil rights. Therefore, Patel is charged with Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony for Patel's failure to properly process criminal complaint affidavits. VERIFICATION Under penalty of perjury as provided by law, the undersigned certifies pursuant to 28 USC section 1746 that material factual statements set forth in this criminal complaint are true and correct, except as to any matters therein stated to be information and belief of such matters the undersigned certifies as aforesaid that the undersigned verily believes the same to be true. Date William H. Payne 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 505-292-7037 Judge Hug, I have been extremely patient with judges and clerks of the district of Northern California and Ninth Circuit. Criminal compliant affidavits were filed between March 11, 1996 and June 13, 1997. Nothing has happened as of April 1, 1998. I ask that you 1 issue warrants of arrest or 2 inform me why you cannot proceed to do what I request within 60 calendar days. Smith's case is particularly egregious. Smith and Albuquerque FBI agent in charge James K. Weber, who replaced Kneir, sent US Marshals Lester and Lopez to my home on January 24, 1997 in a second attempt to intimidate me. Anotin Scalia was appointed magistrate to process criminal complaint affidavits against Smith and others for the second intimidation attempt. Sincerely, William H. Payne 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 VERIFICATION Under penalty of perjury as provided by law, the undersigned certifies pursuant to 28 USC section 1746 that material factual statements set forth in this criminal complaint are true and correct, except as to any matters therein stated to be information and belief of such matters the undersigned certifies as aforesaid that the undersigned verily believes the same to be true. Date William H. Payne 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 505-292-7037 Enclosures Privacy Act criminal violation documents, 11 pages AFFIDAVIT OF GREGORY A. CONE, 4 pages May 9, 1997 letter from MARGARET D. THOMAS, 1 page 13 Friday 5/1/98 9:48 AM Certified Return receipt requested Cathy A Catterson, Clerk Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals 121 Spear Street POB 193939 San Francisco, CA 94119-9800 415 744 9800 Dear Clerk Catterson: Purpose of this letter is to discover the REASON the criminal complaint addressed to Ninth circuit judge Proctor Hug Jr dated Wednesday 4/1/98 11:02 AM was returned to me WITHOUT COVER LETTER. I attach a copy of the envelope the above material was enclosed. Return address is CLERK, U.S. COURT OF APPEALS P.O. BOX 547 SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94101-0547 OFFICIAL BUSINESS PENALTY FOR PRIVATE USE, 300 Postmark is SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF APR 24 98 U.S. POSTAGE $2.62 METER 504753. The envelope is hand-addressed and stamped CONFIDENTIAL. Since no cover letter was enclosed to explain the return of what I believe is both a valid and lawful criminal complaint affidavit supported by WRITTEN EVIDENCE, some even in FILED court documents, I feel we must investigate to discover the REASON. All of the accused are federal employees or contractor employees. Possibility exists that return of the enclosed criminal complaint affidavit without cover letter stating the REASON may indicate violation of Title 18 § 1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant [(b)] Whoever knowingly ... corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to - ... (2) cause or induce any person to - (A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding; ... (3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (c) Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from - ... (2) reporting to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense ... or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. Clerk Catterson, you may be aware that under § 1512 (d) In a prosecution for an offense under this section, it is an affirmative defense, as to which the defendant has the burden of proof by a preponderance of the evidence, that the conduct consisted solely of lawful conduct ... Therefore, I ask that you investigate to discover WHO returned the enclosed criminal complaint affidavit to me. And report the REASON the criminal complaint affidavit was returned to me. I ask that you respond within 30 days. Sincerely, William H. Payne 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 2

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Re: Reno reports "suspicion" in industry crypto-negotiations
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Daley's statement on crypto export has been pulled from the DoC Public Affairs Web site, as noted in Peter Junger's latest filing, in which the vanished statement is cited as support for lifting suspicious back-scratch dealings like ACP's. http://jya.com/pdj9.htm What's the latest on publicizing the several ACP drafts floating around "industry and agencies" for comment on what TLAs and ACP are rigging in the public interest. Weren't some of these stalking drafts nearly liberated recently? Or were they only floated for trusted eyes only? Congressional hearings are due shortly to air the stench. As Entrust said in defense of its patenting what was thought to be in the public interest: "Encryption is no longer an academic pursuit, now it's very big business." RSA, NAI, Entrust, ACP, TLA, take your pick, not that there's much diff where "national economic security" interest surpasses the public.

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db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)pop.sneaker.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:50:18 -0400 To: e$(a)vmeng.com From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub Sender: <e$(a)vmeng.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=subscribe%20e$> --- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)pop.sneaker.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:26:30 -0400 To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com> From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub Sender: <dbs(a)philodox.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@philodox.com?subject=subscribe%20dbs> X-Web-Archive: http://www.philodox.com/dbs-archive/ You might notice that the tag on this one says "db$". That's to differentiate it from my "e$" rants, which might be more general than ones like this one, which is on digital bearer settlement. I think there is lots of talk about electronic commerce and e$ these days from whole bunches of people, and, as a consequence, my interest in it has focused more onto the issue of digital bearer settlement. You'll probably be seeing more db$ tags than e$ tags on my rants going forward. All of which brings me to some obversations I've been making in public about blind signatures lately, and the excellent time I had at Ed Yeardon's Cutter Consortium "Summit" conference the past few days. Let's start with yet another aviation analogy about Digicash, shall we? :-). Remember, I like to do that. Once I compared privacy to flight, and said that, like flight, lots of people had died getting strong cryptography to work, and that privacy itself was an inherent good. The thing which actually got people to use the technology, however, was its commercial value. It wasn't the joy of flight or slipping the surly bounds of earth at Kitty Hawk that got people into the air, it was coach fare to Dayton. It was digital commerce, and thus financial cryptography, which created the most privacy. Digital Commerce is financial cryptography, financial cryptography is strong cryptography, and all that. Then there's my analogy of book-entry settlement as Boyle's law (partial pressure of gasses?) and strong crypto, particularly digital bearer settlement, as Bernoulli's law, the law describing aerodynamic lift. Essentially you can think of cryptography and bearer settlement as wings, and book entries as, well, bags of gas. :-). Thinking this way, with commerce on the internet as flight, First Virtual becomes a tethered baloon. Encrypting your First Virtual transaction makes it an aerodynamic barrage balloon. Encrypting a credit card in an SSL web-form is flying around on a Zeppelin. And, David Chaum becomes the Wright Brothers for inventing the airplane. I used to say "Or maybe Otto Lillenthal" under my breath to get a laugh, but now, I know exactly why David Chaum is the Wright Brothers. That's because Digicash *is* The Wright Flying Machine Company, or whatever the Wright's subsequent enterprise was called. It seems to me that Digicash's strategy with the blind signature is a dead ringer for the Wright Brothers' control of the airplane patent. Here's why: 1. In the beginning, nobody believed that the Wright brothers could fly, and they had to take the airplane to Paris and demonstrate it there before anyone in the US thought it was true. Digicash did the same thing. Actually, the NSA created a positively hostile environment here in the USA for cryptography, financial or otherwise, and that forced David Chaum to go to the Netherlands, where there was a more positive reception for his work. 2. Then, nobody could think about what you could do with airplanes, and the Wrights foundered for a bit.. Same thing with Chaum, Digicash, and the blind signature patent. The commercial internet didn't exist yet in 1986, and blind signatures were conceived as useful only in smartcards, which were just being experimented with. Digicash was going to be used in physical electronic wallets, and maybe in transponders at the gates of toll roads. The CAFE project was an example of this meat-space ecash strategy. It wasn't that Chaum didn't think about the internet. Far from it. He invented digital mixes, after all, which became the basis for anonymous remailers, onion routers, CROWDS, and the like. He just didn't look at blind signatures from the financial operations point of view and see digital bearer settlement, that's all. He was thinking privacy, and not financial operations, just like the Wrights were thinking flight, and not high-speed transportation. 3. The entire time they held the patent, the Wrights only really wanted to sell airplanes to governments, because they wanted to sell to a few large stable customers instead of small entities who would probably go out of business. Digicash, to this day, tries to sell to big institutions. Their now mostly internet-driven digital cash stategy is to create the financial equivalent of Alfred Nobel's dynamite cartel, where one bank in each country gets an ecash license, hopefully the largest bank possible. Mark Twain in the US was a proof of concept, if not an act of desperation on Digicash's part, but it did lead to exclusive (I bet) country-wide licences with Nomura, Deutchebank, the Swedish Post office, and others. There was talk at FC98 that Digicash received $1 million a month from Deutchebank just for the *option* on a Germany-wide license. I think they've now exercised that option. Frankly, I find this geographic, paint-by-the-nation-state approach quaint in a world of ubiquitous geodesic internetworks, but there it is, and it effectively prevents other people from doing anything innovative with blind signatures in the meantime. Monopolies on information technologies kind of work that way. Dogs and mangers come to mind, and not for the first time. 4. The Wrights, when they thought about the transportation business at all, thought about it in terms of "rides" instead of "trips". Digicash isn't really looking at the applications of their technology to anything except its original designed purpose, that is, cash. There are some leaks around the edges, of course. Nomura seems to be looking at blind signature digital bearer settlement as a real-time gross-settlement technology, with some kind of private, kiretsu-cash idea. Digicash people used to give you a shocked "how did you know that already" look when you talked to them about the painfully obvious potential use of blind signatures in the capital markets. However, I'm certain that Digicash thinks that capital market use of blind signature digital bearer settlement is a pipedream and that they'd better focus on the main chance, which is ecash. Preferrably electronic wallet-based ecash issued by a major bank. In competition with book-entry settlement, in book-entry settlement's own turf. Go figure. 5. Finally, the only innovation in the American aircraft market in the age of the Wright patent came from that famous airplane "infringer", Curtis, who didn't give a damn about patents and built airplanes anyway. Much better airplanes, in fact, which the Wrights eventually took him to court for, forcing Curtis to merge with the Wrights. Fortunately, European evolution in aviation continued apace, giving us the aviation equivalent of the Pre-Cambrian explosion, culminating in the names we all remember from World War I like Sopwith, Spad, Dornier, and, of course, Fokker. The problem is that there's no Curtis to infringe on the blind signature patent, because you can't hook up to the financial system from the internet -- land yur plane in other words -- without clear rights to use it. The banks where you move money on and off the net from would get sued. Unless they're in places like South Africa, where software patents don't matter, or Russia, where they're probably uninforceable. Places which have their own problems, not the least of which is poor internet access, poor financial network connectivity (something like Cirrus on the back end of a trustee/custodian would be, um, NYCE :-)), and, not least, poor impulse control by the local force merchants, monopolistic or otherwise. Tax havens don't even count. The very definition of a tax haven is someplace with a bandwidth and regulatory gravity well to keep it safe from any kind of market efficiency. A return to some kind of "Europe" for that hoped-for explosion of blind signature evolution could still be happening on the internet anyway. Certainly, with smart and tenacious people like Ian Goldberg designing HINDE and Ryan Lackey bashing on a reference version of it, one could certainly try to argue this, but there's no money doing this stuff right now (unless you count first-class upgrades to Anguilla or free nights in the InterIsland), much less something like the First World War to forge that innovation into a robust replacement for the book-entry economy. Which, thinking thinking of robustness, brings me to what I've been doing the last few days. Pete Loshin, former editor at Byte, former writer of various excellent how-to books on networking and one of the first surveys of internet commerce (and one of the founding members of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, I might add, :-)), is now editor of Cutter Publications' "Corporate Internet Strategies" newsletter, which used to be edited by Ed Yourdon, of American Programmer, Y2K, and much other, fame. So, when they needed someone on a panel about electronic commerce at Cutter's "Summit" conference at the Boston Harbor Hotel's Wharf Room facility this week, someone controversial, they said, Pete said he knew exactly who to throw into the fray. It was fun, too. There, in front of a room full of senior IT managers from big companies and Famous Computer Guys, sitting on a panel on Internet Commerce, was one of Fidelity's Famous Computer Guys himself, now running their web technology department. And Pete. And Fidelity's retail web-marketing guy, and me. Fidelity has 900 billion dollars under management. 60% of their customer interaction now comes from the web. The ganglia twitch. Dropping that $100 billion 1997 internet transaction number, and saying that it was three orders of magnitude over the estimate didn't faze these guys. They had seen it happen. In addition, all of the people with websites I talked to said that they used SSL to interact with their customers. Almost all of them said that they used 128 bit encryption. The Mssrs. Fidelity faintly crowed about the fact. Digital Commerce is Financial Cryptography, so what else is new? Then, of course, I threw the whole geodesic economy, digital bearer settlement rant at them, right down to the picomoney as processor food, micromoney mitochondria bit. And, of course, they all stood up and threw their dinner rolls at me. It was great. That's because I'd been throwing my own dinner rolls, and I'd been been hinting what I was going to say all week. They even encourage you to heckle the speakers back with a liberal sprinkling of wireless mikes around the room. So every once in a while, I'd pop off with comments like intellectual property control was impossible, that watermarking only told you who the code was stolen from not who stole it. Or, why not have cash auctions for programming deliverables instead of top-down project management, Or, emergent processes for software were always going to beat "controlled" processes, Or, passing programmer certification laws in the wake of whatever Y2K thing happened would be impossible to enforce in a world of those same anonymous cash settled markets for programming talent. I even pointed them to the forum-hackers list as proof. One of my favorite gybes while I was up on the podium to the Fidelity marketing guy -- who's a nice guy but who's also fighting like crazy right now to drag Fidelity up the "quality service differentiation" ladder because Fido can't play least-cost-producer anymore in an eTrade world -- was my claim that eventually most so-called "branded" products would be reduced to graded fungible commodities, and that the more dependant a business was on information technology, the faster it would happen to them. Orthogonality is always more fun than the alternative. And you get lots of free dinner rolls. And, of course, after the digital commerce panel and lunch, Ed Yourdon wrapped it all up with his scary Y2K rant, followed by an appropriately scary bunch of panelists telling us just how scary all theis Y2K stuff really was, that Ed had gotten himself on down to Taos, complete with his own water supply, and that denial was when you lied to yourself and believed it. Or something. All of which I now believe more of, just because all these grey-haired programming aristocrats were nodding sagely about this prospect of impending doom for us all. Frankly, most of the people who've yammered at *me* about Y2K were either loons who hoped it would All Fall Down Someday Soon, or people like Vinnie, who think it's a good idea, if not fun, to know what to do if it ever does all fall down, but that praying for it wasn't going to make it so. I'd like to think I'm one of the latter. The other problem is, I've seen the end of the world coming before. Even predicted it myself on occasion. Haven't been able to reduce it to practice, yet, though. That's the reason Gibbon's in my .sig these days. So, let's get back to Digicash and the Wright Brothers. After hanging out with a whole bunch of top-down monolithic-system gurus and Y2K folks yesterday, it seems plausible. And, I'm certain there are lots of people out there who know lots about both and who hope that Y2K will be the Chixalub event that will burn off all the database-driven book-entry dinosaur systems and clear the way for a digital bearer mammalian explosion. Frankly, I think we're looking at a brushfire, if anything. The lawn will grow back, but the house won't burn, even if the water does go out for a bit. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Remembering, of course, the above bit about denial. But, suppose we *are* talking about the financial equivalent of that great 1970's 30-second short film epic, "Bambi vs. Godzilla", where Bambi is squashed by a giant green foot (oops, I gave away the plot), and the whole financial system goes away for a few days. Or a month. Is there any way to step in with digital bearer settlement as a robust alternative to book-entry funds transfer? Remember the great bank strike in Ireland, where everyone just passed around nth-party endorsed checks like they were money until it was all over? Could we do something like that? Would David Chaum and company let us do that without suing someone for infringement? Could they stop us, if the courts are full of Y2K liability cases? Would the internet still be up? Could we pay our ISPs with digital bearer certificates to keep them up? How about Iridium and Teledesic, which are supposed to be up by then? Once again, ganglia twitch. However, it might be fun to game the idea a bit, just to scare the neighbors. You know, pay ya all back when the banks come up? Well, maybe not. Ed says that the banks, and particularly Wall Street, are the most prepared of any of us. That makes sense. The half life of financial software these days is measured in months. For instance, one of NeXT's biggest markets was in the financial sectors, especially trading rooms, where any prototype which worked was immediately production code. They liked NeXT, despite all its other interesting charistics, because you could do exactly that, and faster than any other development environment. Of course, if anyone's a poster child for "sell Cadillacs, drive a Chevy, sell Chevies, drive a Cadillac", it's Steve Jobs. Of course, he sold NeXTs and got Apples, however that turns out... Still, it might be worth thinking about, trying to route around the book-entry financial settlement system as a pre-disaster exercise. Wright Brothers versus Chixalub, and all that. No, I don't wanna see the movie... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Where people, networks and money come together: Consult Hyperion http://www.hyperion.co.uk/ info(a)hyperion.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Full-Strength Cryptographic Solutions for Worldwide Electronic Commerce http://www.c2.net/ stronghold(a)c2.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Like e$? Help pay for it! For e$/e$pam sponsorship or donations, <mailto:rah@shipwright.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Epilogue 7.3 - SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Epilogue 7.3 Rev. 2.7-SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!! ___________________________________________________ I'm in an apologetic mood this morning, so I would like to take this opportunity to tell those who I have offended in the past, and those who I may offend in the future by my boorish behavior which reflects a total lack of both character and proper upbringing... Well, I'd like to tell them all to "FUCK OFF AND DIE!" Nothing personal, gang, but as some famous guy once said, "He who excuses, accuses." ~ Some famous guy... I really should apologize for being too fucking lazy to grab a pitchfork and go through my filing system to properly attribute the quote above...but I won't. You see, I have no social skills. None. Nada. Null. I should also apologize for never having made an effort to acquire proper social skills...but I won't. In a society in which Finger Pointing (TM) is endemic among those who harbor a secret desire to live in a world epitomized by the movie, 'The Running Man', it borders on self-abuse to add to the mountains of accusations that society already heaps upon one for even the smallest of deviations from a 'norm' which is widely held up to be 'common sense' / 'the way things are' / 'obvious to any decent, God Fearing [Your nationality or religion here] individual'. Being a Deviant From The NormChomsky School of Social UnSchooling ('Norm' is unlikely to lay awake at night waiting for the phone to ring, in order to receive my apology for fucking up his name), I have long recognized that those who consider themselves to be 'God fearing Americans' are, in actuality, often 'Dog fearing Americans' whose beliefs and actions are the result, not of a fear of 'Holy God' roasting their sorry, morally sinning ass, but rather, the result of the fear of the 'Unholy Dog', who is at the end of the leash being held by the Enforcers of Law and Order, Family Values, Cryptography Export Regulations and the Eleventh Commandment (EveryThingNotPermittedIsForbidden). It's a predatory universe, and the human animal is the chief predator. (A fact that would be readily confirmed by Ms. PARKER of TV's latest biosemiotic hint of man's future evolution, 'Prey'.) 'World's Scariest Police Chases' is nothing more than a pilot program for a variety of 'Running Man Electronic Realities' which are only waiting for proper technological development and implementation before John and Jane Savage will be able to tune their Infrared Digital Brain Implant in the proper channel where they can hear the scream of the tires and feel the wetness of the blood as a car full of teenagers slams into a concrete wall while trying to flee the deadly hunting hounds who are trained to both instill and track the scent of fear in their prey. What is a human life worth? Apparently, it is worth less than the cost of a minor traffic ticket, whether it is the life of the person who failed to signal their turn (even though there was no moving traffic anywhere in sight), or the life of some unfortunate child who crossed the street at an inopportune time, on their way home to their birthday party. Of course, to be fair, we must keep in mind that the person fleeing the minor traffic offense may be a pedophile, and if the death of an innocent child saves the life of just one innocent child...uuhhh...never mind... Don't hold your breath waiting for 'World's Scariest Police Chases Resulting In The Deaths Of Innocent Bystanders.' (Can you say "Watch me and I'll bleed you 'cause you eat the shit I feed you...And when somebody's mother gets machine gunned in the street, we'll send some Joker with a Brownie, so you'll see it all, complete...?" Sure you can...) The price of a human life is just as cheap in America as it is in what are held to be 'less civilized' areas of the world, but the advertising experts and spin-doctors in charge of 'Manufacturing Consent' in the American people for submissive subjugation to Heavily Armed Thugs have had the advantage of decades of experience in exercising Control Over Access To Information and thus shape the jigs upon which our Consent To Agree To 'The Way Things Are' is Manufactured at any given point in time. The danger that Unregulated Access To Information presents to the current structure of government, business and society, is that it allows any member of the human race to participate in the Manufacturing of Consent as to what is acceptable and what is unacceptable in the areas of our life which are shared with various layers of the Social Onion. For instance, this very missive might be seen as an attempt by the Author to Manufacture Consent for any individuals who feel their life is threatened by the dangerous driving of law enforcement personnel to 'pop a cap' in their ignorant brains as they drive by, if the threat they pose to one's safety can be removed with little likelyhood of endangering others. Remember, 'If it saves the life of a single child...' The size, shape, function, model number and serial number of Consent depends largely on where, how and by whom it is Manufactured. How the fuck did WeTheSheeple manage to allow ourselves to be manipulated into giving our Consent for Janet Reno to slaughter a spiritual community of men, women and children who died a horrible, screaming, fiery death for holding unconventional religious views? How the fuck did WeTheSheeple manage to sit up straight in our chairs and quit fidgeting, while giving our Consent for the mainstream media to feed us Law and Order pamphlets handed out by the same Department of Justice criminal monsters who slaughtered our fellow citizens? How the fuck do WeTheSheeple manage to watch dozens of police cars endangering the public with their dangerous driving in order to prevent a single vehicle from endangering the public and manage to give our Consent for them turning traffic rules into excuses for violating the Constitutional rights of the citizens and using deadly force against anyone who attempts to avoid violation of their civil rights and affronts to their human dignity? Vin ThePolishKike, who I revere for the sanity and wisdom which he brings to his Mountain Media News releases (even though I'm too lazy to look up how to spell his unAmerican name, and can't resist taking a few cheap, racist shots at him just to attempt to suitably repay him for his contributions to our Biosemiotic Evolution by helping to ensure that he will 'Never Forget'), has not been remiss in exercising his Dog-given right to participate in the Manufacturing of Consent, by expessing the view (which I am about to badly misquote), "We have reached the point where it is morally right to shoot the bastards, but it is not yet feasible to do so." "Who will help me to Manufacture Consent to Nuke DC?" said the little Red May. "Who will help me Manufacture Consent to engage the bastards in a continuous rEvolutionary battle where our targets are chosen, as much as possible, rather than being just random victims of misguided rage?" said the little White Weber. "Who will help me Manufacture Consent to avoid endangering innocent children by refusing to drive dangerously in order to escape the armed thugs, and instead seizing every safe opportunity to resist their oppression by stealth and craftiness, if possible, but by violence and death, if necessary?" said the little Black ArmyOfDogMongrel. As a member of the Congress of WeThePeople who have as much right to Manufacture Consent as do the members of the corrupt Congress of WeTheSheepShearers, I am casting my vote upon the waters of opinion in favor of restoring the right of WeThePeople to individually and collectively institute the Death Penalty for Oppressors. I am adding my voice to those of others with the wisdom and courage to do their part in Manufacturing Consent for their fellow citizens to stop and shake the hand of the individual who took the time and trouble to 'pop a cap' in the brains of the dangerous armed thugs endangering the populace with their stupidity and carelessness in matching the insanity of those they claim to be protecting us from. The next time you have an opportunity to watch 'The Running Man', make a point of noticing that the 'contestants' haven't been brainwashed into meekly submitting to whatever form of armed violence is directed toward them for their real or imagined crimes. And make a point of noticing who your heart, mind and soul are rooting for... Then ask yourself if you want to live a life where you meekly submit to all manner of affronts to your rights and human dignity, while numbing yourself to 'the way things are In Reality' by opiating your psyche with Digital Emmisions from the Puppet Masters which are designed to use Virtual Reality to compensate for the thoughts and emotions you are required to suppress and deny in your Physical, Emotional and Mental Daily Realities. Thelma and Louise had the right idea...they just should have waited until there was a cherry-top in front of them...

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Epilogue 8.2 - SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Epilogue 8.2, Rev. 1.8 - SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS !!! _______________________________________________________ "Lord knows when the cold wind blows, it will turn your head around." ~ James Taylor Adversity tends to break down the smooth functioning of our comfortably programmed beliefs via forcing a change in our ordinary habits of perception in regard to the world around us. This is true whether the adversity or perceived threat is real or imagined. When some aspect of our survival, including the survival of our comfortably programmed mental, emotional and physical states, is threatened, we tend to become aware of things which were previously invisible or vaguely opaque elements of our environment, or to see things that were already encompassed by the range of our usual perceptive viewpoint in an entirely different way. One might compare a kick in the ass to a software program interrupt that boots one out of the preprogrammed loop that they follow as a matter of routine, and throws them into a reactive EITHER/OR 'fight or flight' routine. Or, if they happen to be wired and programmed to be able to function using higher level logic and languages than are necessitated by mere survival, they might branch to a series of nested conditional loops which, like Tai Chi, enables them to act in whatever manner is most fitting given the original goal of their program and taking into consideration the nature of the error message that was imparted to their backside by an unexpected boot process. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was RTFM!" Three days after I betrayed my Toshiba Tecra laptop for thirty cans of Silver Bullet, enabling the Roman BorderGuards to take it away to be crucified upon the Cross of Free Speech, I rolled back the stone at the door of the cave where the body of my Opus SPARCard 2 lay and dragged it out into the light of day where, seeing its own shadow, it predicted that there would be three more weeks of Snow Crash. Computer Gods work in mysterious ways, especially when I am drunk, which probably explains why THEY came to me in a double-vision and I once again heard the inner voice which had been silenced by years of medication and therapy. The voice said, "OPUS is not dead, but merely sleepeth." After paying alms to the Used PC Priests and offering a 386 IBM-PC up for sacrifice to the UNIX rising from the ashes, I instituted a GNU World Order among the Byteizens living in the Land of PROM, and my SPARCard 2 came to life, feeding off of the flesh of the DOS interface which the Computer God, OPUS, had destined to serve at the feet of the Eunuchs Masters. "I shall deliver you up out of Redmond, past the Gates of the Pharoh, and I shall be your Get, and you shall be my Pipe-l." Since the resurrection of my SPARCard 2, every day begins with a miracle of life, as the Spirit of the Father of Eunuchs, the Sun OS, and the "Holy Shit! Great Caesar's Ghost...it works!" is breathed into the NULL PROM registers by the laying of hands on the keyboard, sending shivers down the spines of Daemons, Zombies and Orphan Zombies. I've got a KILL command, and I'm not afraid to use it... Of course, the Holy Roman Empire is not about to fold up its tent and cancel its plans to build the Fourth Reich on the Tomb of the UnStoned Soldier of the Army of Dog just because an unrepentant WinLuser has temporarily escaped their sentence of Death of Free Speech by hiding in the Holy Shit! Temple, underneath the KILLts of the Circle of Eunuchs. Desert Storm was just a NWO practice run to fine tune the Patriot missles in preparation for the return of Jesus in a Stealth Bomber, "like a thief in the night." St. John the Divine Lay Preacher mistook the sounds of incoming Scud missles and outgoing Patriot missles for the blaring of trumpets. When the Army of God descends out of heaven, they'd better be wearing Kevlar... "Every time I start getting ahead in the rat race, they bring in faster rats." ~ A Slow Rat A few years ago, Dudley DoWrong took a serious run at my liberty of movement by charging me with a couple of traffic offenses and trying to yank my driver's license. After two years of dragging a pack of Rabid Wombats Cleverly Disguised As Witnesses into court (accompanied by a Mountie assigned to keep an eye and a gun turned in the direction of the MadDogInPossession defendant), it finally came down to blows, and I wiped the floors of the Halls of Justice with the tight ass of the federal Queen's Bench counsellor appointed to prosecute me. (He had a stick up his ass, so it was a lot like using a regular mop.) I have had quite a few people come to me over the years for help with keeping the long dick of the law from being hidden from the sun in their own backyard. There seems to be some kind of perception among the lower stratocasters of the local community that I am some kind of killer legal-eagle genius who is able to eat legal-rats that are larger than his head. Although I enjoy occassionally basking in the warm glow of the approval of Squeaky From's peers, the fact of the matter is, I am actually more of a legal-buzzard--working out of a carrion bag in between flights of fancy during which I look down on the struggling wayfarers wandering in circles, lost in a wasteland of rules and legal proceedures which turn out to be merely shimmering mirages appearing to be an Oasis of Truth and Justice until the poor, parched pricks get close enough to see that their mind and eyes were once again fooled by illusions created by their delusions--and, rather than being a Great Bird of Prey who eats the RatLawyers alive, I am merely a Vulture who picks at the carcasses of the dead and dying former Champions of Justice who sold their souls to the Mobsters Cleverly Disguised As Politicians. Of course, the mail-order, money-back-guarantee 'Be Your Own Legal-Beagle Kit' (send $19.95 + $5.00 S&H to: Baby Dog Enterprises, Box 281, Bienfait, Saskatchewan SOC OMO) I use to snatch Justice from the Jaws of Legal Sharks is meant for use only in trolling for the big fish in small ponds and small fish in big ponds, and is not designed for use by serious FisherKings trolling for Killer KingFish in the home of the SwampThing, where Legal Dinosaurs still roam at large, crushing underfoot anything and anyone that gets in their way. When the omnipresent, nefarious They (TM) call out the National Guard to descend upon your sorry ass, and They (TM) turn to the Desert Rat to sniff through your garbage and find something dirty and smelly enough to delight a hand-picked jury of God Fearing Decent People's Peers, then it's time to put in a call to Larry Joe Dowling, a West Texas Rat Wrangler, and the aptly-named Bob Looney, one of LBJ's former Legally Drunk Beagles. Larry Joe is one of the few lawyers whose standards have remained high enough that he will work in return for really great pussy, and his good Texas breeding ensures that he will be discreet in screwing your old-lady, so as not to cause you any undue embarassment for your lack of sufficient capital to retain a legal representative capable of keeping a straight face when words like Truth and Justice accidentally escape from the lips of the judge and prosecutor. Besides, if They (TM) want you badly enough to make it worth your attorney's while to sell you down the river, then you damn-straight better better team up with an experienced Rounder who has the decency to pay the bar-bill at the end of your tax-deductible, late-night legal conferences. (And whose partner-in-(government)crime(fighting) helps to keep your spirits (pardon the pun) up by raising his glass, in toast to the Blind Broad, and announcing, loud enough to be heard over the din of the surrounding Last Call Warriors, "If Jack Daniel's be with us, then who can be against us?" I use a simple rule-of-thumb to guage the level of the blindside attack on my sorry butt that is being secretly prepared deep within the bowels of the Rat's Nest in Can You *Say* That Word On The Internet(?), Saskatchwan. The more shit-disturbing that the BigTeeth Enforcer Rats let you get away with without uttering even the slightest of squeaks in your direction, then the further ahead they are setting your own personal DoomsDay Clock during their illegal, surrepticious entries into your home while you are down at the CoalDust Saloon. When you can run around Southern Saskatchewan distributing 'WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE' posters putting a price on the head of the thieving scum who stole your computer and not hear a peep-squeak out of them, then your DoomsDay Clock is already set to one minute after midnight, and you're drinking on borrowed time. (Which means that I'd better get my butt down to the CoalDust Saloon so that I'll be there when the barmaid opens the door, and she won't freak out and run down main street screaming 'The sky is falling...The sky is falling!" like she did the last time I didn't arrive until 33 seconds after opening time.) Smoke 'em if you got 'em...

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Constitution For Sale
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CONSTITUTION FOR SALE _____________________ 1776 Constitution for sale. Inherited from original owner. Hasn't been used for years, but can be easily restored to its original condition by extermination of the rats which have taken up residence under the hood and the removal of useless accessories which were added by a long series of unethical mechanics who saw the prospect of making more money if it continually drifted to the right or the left than if the integrity of its original design was retained. Truly must be seen to be appreciated. Must be appreciated to be truly seen.

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Crime Sale!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CHEVY CHASE FORD & 'CRAZY BOTMA' MERCURY DEALERSHIPS ANNOUNCE A GIGANTIC BLOWOUT CRIME SALE !!! _______________________________ DUE TO A CURRENT OVERSTOCK OF CRIMINALS AND THE NEW MAKES OF CRIME BEING PRODUCED IN OUR DC FACTORY EVERY DAY, CHEVY CHASE AND 'CRAZY BOTMA' ARE ABLE TO OFFER YOU *UNBELIEVABLE* *DEALS* ON A WIDE VARIETY OF BOTH NEW AND OLDER CRIMES. THIS MAKES IT AN OPPORTUNE TIME FOR *YOU* TO GET INTO WHATEVER TYPE OF CRIME YOU'VE DREAMED ABOUT FOR YEARS, BUT THOUGHT YOU COULD NEVER AFFORD TO PAY FOR. WE'RE MOVING OLDER MODEL CRIMINALS OUT THE DOOR EVERY DAY, AND EVEN SENDING FELONY CRIMINALS OUT THE DOOR AT AN EVER INCREASING RATE, YET WE *STILL* CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND OF OUR DC FACTORY TO FIND CUSTOMERS FOR THE NEW CRIMES BEING CREATED EVERY DAY BY THEIR SOCIAL ENGINEERS. WE'RE SO DESPERATE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PLEAD WITH YOU TO ACCEPT THE BARGAINS WE ARE CURRENTLY ABLE TO OFFER. NOT ONLY ARE WE ABLE TO GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN FIT YOU INTO ANY OF A VARIETY OF THE WIDE SPECTRUM OF CRIMINAL CATEGORIES CURRENTLY AVAILABLE BUT WE CAN OFFER YOU A DEAL THAT WILL HAVE YOU BACK OUT THE DOOR IN RECORD TIME. WHAT'S MORE, DUE TO THE CURRENTLY HIGH RECALL RATE WE ARE EXPERIENCING AS A RESULT OF SENDING UNSAFE CRIMINALS OUT THE DOOR, WE CAN PROMISE TO GIVE YOU AN EVEN BETTER DEAL ON A NEW CRIME IN THE FUTURE, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED PAYING FOR YOUR ORIGINAL CRIME. ONCE WE HAVE FIT YOU INTO A THIRD FELONY CRIME, YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME A LIFETIME CUSTOMER AND ELIGIBLE TO MOVE FROM OUR 'EASY PAYMENT' PLAN TO OUR 'LIFETIME PAYMENT' PLAN WHERE WE *INSIST* THAT YOU TAKE *FOREVER* TO PAY FOR YOUR CRIME. WITH THE EVER INCREASING ABILITY OF OUR DC FACTORY TO PRODUCE NEW CRIMES AT AN ASTOUNDING RATE, IT HAS NEVER BEEN EASIER TO FIT INTO OUR CUSTOMER PROFILE. "IF THE CUSTOMER DOESN'T FIT THE CRIME, WE'LL MAKE THE CRIME FIT THE CUSTOMER." THAT'S A PROMISE!

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Re: Reno reports "suspicion" in industry crypto-negotiations
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:39 -0400 5/1/98, John Young wrote: >Weren't some of these stalking drafts nearly liberated recently? >Or were they only floated for trusted eyes only? They were floated for TEO: ACP, Hill staffers, and allied groups like CDT (Alan Davidson from CDT, after a Cato forum yesterday, defended much of the ACP crypto bill when I asked him about it). I got a leaked copy. I promised to send around a summary and haven't yet. Too much time on Y2K and Microsoft. I'll get to it this weekend. -Declan

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How do I get off this list??
by Chris Loftus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is too mach crap. how do I get off?

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Re: Canadian Crypto GAK [slashdot.org]
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> > > > X-within-URL: http://www.slashdot.org/ > > > Crypto in Canada Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday April 30 at 3:58 pm > > EST > > Encryption from the its-everywhere dept > > Eric Howe sent us This link where you can read about Canada's latest > > development in encryption. Looks like they want to have keys just like > > Uncle Sam. They have no choice: they are part of the UKUSA alliance. ---guy, Vulis Terminator

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Ruling in Payne & Morales v NSA's Minihan
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday 5/1/98 2:15 PM John Young Nice to talk to you a few minutes ago. Even in person! Judge Santiago Campos ruled in Payne and Morales v NSA Minihan. http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm Morales opted to meet and open the ruling even though it is a week end. Usually, I NEVER open a lawyer letter on near a weekend or a vacation. But we do file lawsuits on Friday. That way we get to blast THEM [Great Satan supporters] on the Infobahn before the court has a chance to seal the complaint. Mail Boxes Etc. charges only $.04 per page special copy charge on Fridays too V $.07 on other days. We, unlike DOE, are mindful of containing litigation costs. The ruling is 56 pages long! Morales read me only the first and last pages. 1 We DID NOT LOSE 2 NSA did not win 3 We are not headed for jail I mailed a priority mail copy to you. Without Internet NYA, J Orlin Grabbe, and some really neat journalists the outcome would have far different, I conjecture. Have a good weekend everyone [http://www.wpiran.org/] We are! We GOT TO GET THIS HORRIBLE MESS SETTLED! Cowabunga, Yahoo, allahu akbar, etc. bill and art

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17 Dec '03

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db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just to fan the flames of Y2K hysteria ever higher... ;-). Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)pop.sneaker.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:50:18 -0400 To: e$(a)vmeng.com From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub Sender: <e$(a)vmeng.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=subscribe%20e$> --- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rah(a)pop.sneaker.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:26:30 -0400 To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com> From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: db$: The Wright Brothers vs. Chixalub Sender: <dbs(a)philodox.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@philodox.com?subject=subscribe%20dbs> X-Web-Archive: http://www.philodox.com/dbs-archive/ You might notice that the tag on this one says "db$". That's to differentiate it from my "e$" rants, which might be more general than ones like this one, which is on digital bearer settlement. I think there is lots of talk about electronic commerce and e$ these days from whole bunches of people, and, as a consequence, my interest in it has focused more onto the issue of digital bearer settlement. You'll probably be seeing more db$ tags than e$ tags on my rants going forward. All of which brings me to some obversations I've been making in public about blind signatures lately, and the excellent time I had at Ed Yeardon's Cutter Consortium "Summit" conference the past few days. Let's start with yet another aviation analogy about Digicash, shall we? :-). Remember, I like to do that. Once I compared privacy to flight, and said that, like flight, lots of people had died getting strong cryptography to work, and that privacy itself was an inherent good. The thing which actually got people to use the technology, however, was its commercial value. It wasn't the joy of flight or slipping the surly bounds of earth at Kitty Hawk that got people into the air, it was coach fare to Dayton. It was digital commerce, and thus financial cryptography, which created the most privacy. Digital Commerce is financial cryptography, financial cryptography is strong cryptography, and all that. Then there's my analogy of book-entry settlement as Boyle's law (partial pressure of gasses?) and strong crypto, particularly digital bearer settlement, as Bernoulli's law, the law describing aerodynamic lift. Essentially you can think of cryptography and bearer settlement as wings, and book entries as, well, bags of gas. :-). Thinking this way, with commerce on the internet as flight, First Virtual becomes a tethered baloon. Encrypting your First Virtual transaction makes it an aerodynamic barrage balloon. Encrypting a credit card in an SSL web-form is flying around on a Zeppelin. And, David Chaum becomes the Wright Brothers for inventing the airplane. I used to say "Or maybe Otto Lillenthal" under my breath to get a laugh, but now, I know exactly why David Chaum is the Wright Brothers. That's because Digicash *is* The Wright Flying Machine Company, or whatever the Wright's subsequent enterprise was called. It seems to me that Digicash's strategy with the blind signature is a dead ringer for the Wright Brothers' control of the airplane patent. Here's why: 1. In the beginning, nobody believed that the Wright brothers could fly, and they had to take the airplane to Paris and demonstrate it there before anyone in the US thought it was true. Digicash did the same thing. Actually, the NSA created a positively hostile environment here in the USA for cryptography, financial or otherwise, and that forced David Chaum to go to the Netherlands, where there was a more positive reception for his work. 2. Then, nobody could think about what you could do with airplanes, and the Wrights foundered for a bit.. Same thing with Chaum, Digicash, and the blind signature patent. The commercial internet didn't exist yet in 1986, and blind signatures were conceived as useful only in smartcards, which were just being experimented with. Digicash was going to be used in physical electronic wallets, and maybe in transponders at the gates of toll roads. The CAFE project was an example of this meat-space ecash strategy. It wasn't that Chaum didn't think about the internet. Far from it. He invented digital mixes, after all, which became the basis for anonymous remailers, onion routers, CROWDS, and the like. He just didn't look at blind signatures from the financial operations point of view and see digital bearer settlement, that's all. He was thinking privacy, and not financial operations, just like the Wrights were thinking flight, and not high-speed transportation. 3. The entire time they held the patent, the Wrights only really wanted to sell airplanes to governments, because they wanted to sell to a few large stable customers instead of small entities who would probably go out of business. Digicash, to this day, tries to sell to big institutions. Their now mostly internet-driven digital cash stategy is to create the financial equivalent of Alfred Nobel's dynamite cartel, where one bank in each country gets an ecash license, hopefully the largest bank possible. Mark Twain in the US was a proof of concept, if not an act of desperation on Digicash's part, but it did lead to exclusive (I bet) country-wide licences with Nomura, Deutchebank, the Swedish Post office, and others. There was talk at FC98 that Digicash received $1 million a month from Deutchebank just for the *option* on a Germany-wide license. I think they've now exercised that option. Frankly, I find this geographic, paint-by-the-nation-state approach quaint in a world of ubiquitous geodesic internetworks, but there it is, and it effectively prevents other people from doing anything innovative with blind signatures in the meantime. Monopolies on information technologies kind of work that way. Dogs and mangers come to mind, and not for the first time. 4. The Wrights, when they thought about the transportation business at all, thought about it in terms of "rides" instead of "trips". Digicash isn't really looking at the applications of their technology to anything except its original designed purpose, that is, cash. There are some leaks around the edges, of course. Nomura seems to be looking at blind signature digital bearer settlement as a real-time gross-settlement technology, with some kind of private, kiretsu-cash idea. Digicash people used to give you a shocked "how did you know that already" look when you talked to them about the painfully obvious potential use of blind signatures in the capital markets. However, I'm certain that Digicash thinks that capital market use of blind signature digital bearer settlement is a pipedream and that they'd better focus on the main chance, which is ecash. Preferrably electronic wallet-based ecash issued by a major bank. In competition with book-entry settlement, in book-entry settlement's own turf. Go figure. 5. Finally, the only innovation in the American aircraft market in the age of the Wright patent came from that famous airplane "infringer", Curtis, who didn't give a damn about patents and built airplanes anyway. Much better airplanes, in fact, which the Wrights eventually took him to court for, forcing Curtis to merge with the Wrights. Fortunately, European evolution in aviation continued apace, giving us the aviation equivalent of the Pre-Cambrian explosion, culminating in the names we all remember from World War I like Sopwith, Spad, Dornier, and, of course, Fokker. The problem is that there's no Curtis to infringe on the blind signature patent, because you can't hook up to the financial system from the internet -- land yur plane in other words -- without clear rights to use it. The banks where you move money on and off the net from would get sued. Unless they're in places like South Africa, where software patents don't matter, or Russia, where they're probably uninforceable. Places which have their own problems, not the least of which is poor internet access, poor financial network connectivity (something like Cirrus on the back end of a trustee/custodian would be, um, NYCE :-)), and, not least, poor impulse control by the local force merchants, monopolistic or otherwise. Tax havens don't even count. The very definition of a tax haven is someplace with a bandwidth and regulatory gravity well to keep it safe from any kind of market efficiency. A return to some kind of "Europe" for that hoped-for explosion of blind signature evolution could still be happening on the internet anyway. Certainly, with smart and tenacious people like Ian Goldberg designing HINDE and Ryan Lackey bashing on a reference version of it, one could certainly try to argue this, but there's no money doing this stuff right now (unless you count first-class upgrades to Anguilla or free nights in the InterIsland), much less something like the First World War to forge that innovation into a robust replacement for the book-entry economy. Which, thinking thinking of robustness, brings me to what I've been doing the last few days. Pete Loshin, former editor at Byte, former writer of various excellent how-to books on networking and one of the first surveys of internet commerce (and one of the founding members of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, I might add, :-)), is now editor of Cutter Publications' "Corporate Internet Strategies" newsletter, which used to be edited by Ed Yourdon, of American Programmer, Y2K, and much other, fame. So, when they needed someone on a panel about electronic commerce at Cutter's "Summit" conference at the Boston Harbor Hotel's Wharf Room facility this week, someone controversial, they said, Pete said he knew exactly who to throw into the fray. It was fun, too. There, in front of a room full of senior IT managers from big companies and Famous Computer Guys, sitting on a panel on Internet Commerce, was one of Fidelity's Famous Computer Guys himself, now running their web technology department. And Pete. And Fidelity's retail web-marketing guy, and me. Fidelity has 900 billion dollars under management. 60% of their customer interaction now comes from the web. The ganglia twitch. Dropping that $100 billion 1997 internet transaction number, and saying that it was three orders of magnitude over the estimate didn't faze these guys. They had seen it happen. In addition, all of the people with websites I talked to said that they used SSL to interact with their customers. Almost all of them said that they used 128 bit encryption. The Mssrs. Fidelity faintly crowed about the fact. Digital Commerce is Financial Cryptography, so what else is new? Then, of course, I threw the whole geodesic economy, digital bearer settlement rant at them, right down to the picomoney as processor food, micromoney mitochondria bit. And, of course, they all stood up and threw their dinner rolls at me. It was great. That's because I'd been throwing my own dinner rolls, and I'd been been hinting what I was going to say all week. They even encourage you to heckle the speakers back with a liberal sprinkling of wireless mikes around the room. So every once in a while, I'd pop off with comments like intellectual property control was impossible, that watermarking only told you who the code was stolen from not who stole it. Or, why not have cash auctions for programming deliverables instead of top-down project management, Or, emergent processes for software were always going to beat "controlled" processes, Or, passing programmer certification laws in the wake of whatever Y2K thing happened would be impossible to enforce in a world of those same anonymous cash settled markets for programming talent. I even pointed them to the forum-hackers list as proof. One of my favorite gybes while I was up on the podium to the Fidelity marketing guy -- who's a nice guy but who's also fighting like crazy right now to drag Fidelity up the "quality service differentiation" ladder because Fido can't play least-cost-producer anymore in an eTrade world -- was my claim that eventually most so-called "branded" products would be reduced to graded fungible commodities, and that the more dependant a business was on information technology, the faster it would happen to them. Orthogonality is always more fun than the alternative. And you get lots of free dinner rolls. And, of course, after the digital commerce panel and lunch, Ed Yourdon wrapped it all up with his scary Y2K rant, followed by an appropriately scary bunch of panelists telling us just how scary all theis Y2K stuff really was, that Ed had gotten himself on down to Taos, complete with his own water supply, and that denial was when you lied to yourself and believed it. Or something. All of which I now believe more of, just because all these grey-haired programming aristocrats were nodding sagely about this prospect of impending doom for us all. Frankly, most of the people who've yammered at *me* about Y2K were either loons who hoped it would All Fall Down Someday Soon, or people like Vinnie, who think it's a good idea, if not fun, to know what to do if it ever does all fall down, but that praying for it wasn't going to make it so. I'd like to think I'm one of the latter. The other problem is, I've seen the end of the world coming before. Even predicted it myself on occasion. Haven't been able to reduce it to practice, yet, though. That's the reason Gibbon's in my .sig these days. So, let's get back to Digicash and the Wright Brothers. After hanging out with a whole bunch of top-down monolithic-system gurus and Y2K folks yesterday, it seems plausible. And, I'm certain there are lots of people out there who know lots about both and who hope that Y2K will be the Chixalub event that will burn off all the database-driven book-entry dinosaur systems and clear the way for a digital bearer mammalian explosion. Frankly, I think we're looking at a brushfire, if anything. The lawn will grow back, but the house won't burn, even if the water does go out for a bit. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Remembering, of course, the above bit about denial. But, suppose we *are* talking about the financial equivalent of that great 1970's 30-second short film epic, "Bambi vs. Godzilla", where Bambi is squashed by a giant green foot (oops, I gave away the plot), and the whole financial system goes away for a few days. Or a month. Is there any way to step in with digital bearer settlement as a robust alternative to book-entry funds transfer? Remember the great bank strike in Ireland, where everyone just passed around nth-party endorsed checks like they were money until it was all over? Could we do something like that? Would David Chaum and company let us do that without suing someone for infringement? Could they stop us, if the courts are full of Y2K liability cases? Would the internet still be up? Could we pay our ISPs with digital bearer certificates to keep them up? How about Iridium and Teledesic, which are supposed to be up by then? Once again, ganglia twitch. However, it might be fun to game the idea a bit, just to scare the neighbors. You know, pay ya all back when the banks come up? Well, maybe not. Ed says that the banks, and particularly Wall Street, are the most prepared of any of us. That makes sense. The half life of financial software these days is measured in months. For instance, one of NeXT's biggest markets was in the financial sectors, especially trading rooms, where any prototype which worked was immediately production code. They liked NeXT, despite all its other interesting charistics, because you could do exactly that, and faster than any other development environment. Of course, if anyone's a poster child for "sell Cadillacs, drive a Chevy, sell Chevies, drive a Cadillac", it's Steve Jobs. Of course, he sold NeXTs and got Apples, however that turns out... Still, it might be worth thinking about, trying to route around the book-entry financial settlement system as a pre-disaster exercise. Wright Brothers versus Chixalub, and all that. No, I don't wanna see the movie... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Where people, networks and money come together: Consult Hyperion http://www.hyperion.co.uk/ info(a)hyperion.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Full-Strength Cryptographic Solutions for Worldwide Electronic Commerce http://www.c2.net/ stronghold(a)c2.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Like e$? 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