December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

lotus notes secure mail, help configuring
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone conversant with configuring and using lotus notes and domino mail server for email encryption? I could use someone familiar with it to pick their brains on the topic. The purpose of this exercise is to find out the keys used in the lotus notes export versions "international crypto" implementation ("differential key escrow" or whatever it's called -- the 40 bits unescrowed, and 24 bits escrowed design). First step is to get it to encrypt something. I have a domino mail server running, and the notes mail client, but am having difficulty getting it to send encrypted mail. Please email me. Adam

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Re: Happy Birthday to Convicted Child Molester Gary Burnore
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore(a)databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > >Just because you're pissed that someone anonymously blew the whistle > >on your pederasty in Santa Clara, CA by informing your victim's > >mother and school officials is no reason for such ad hominem. > > Hi ronnie. Too bad you're still just making stuff up. The above never > happened. So which was the lie? This recent post of yours, or the previous one where you claimed: -> So now the cowards in Ronald Francis's corner (I'm outright expecting the -> culprit to be ronald francis himself) have taken to sending email to -> those who have names listed on databasix's web page. Sending comments to -> a 17 year old that they're going to tell her mother that she's having an -> affair with me. Telling her mother that I'm molesting her daughter. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -> Having all sorts of fun. If it didn't happen, why did you claim it did? You are the one who resorted to a PUBLIC post to whine about a PRIVATE e-mail not even addressed to you. And what's this about a DataBasix web page? Were you maintaining a kiddie porn site on all of your victims to trade with fellow pedophiles? Your own wording "Telling her mother that I'm molesting her daughter" pretty much sums up the whistleblowing that occurred. Why else didn't the girl or her mother complain, instead of you? > >You > >were busted fair and square, and your own guilty plea sealed your > >fate. > > I didn't plead guilty, liar. No contest? Insanity? > >BTW, did you ever ask yourself how this "RFG" character would > >have known that you were screwing your live-in girlfriend's daughter > >behind her back, if he's "the one and only anonymous asshole"? > > I wasn't screwing anyone. I also wasn't living with anyone. More lies on > your part. You never will get the facts straight. Not even the $30K in legal fees you spent could refute those facts upon which you were convicted. It's a little too late to pretend you were innocent. Or are you going to fall back on Camille Klein's pitiful tale of how your victim allegedly tried to "rape" you?

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:41 AM 10/20/98 -0500, Bauer, Michael (C)(STP) wrote: >Anyone got any crypanalytical dirt on PC-Anywhere? Is its cryptosystem any >good, or are they doing something stupid like XOR? > Hey, fuck you. -The Vernam Cipher Society-

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SSZ - IRS update
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Thought I'd drop a line about what's been going on around here for the last few days.... The IRS and I have agreed upon an affadavit. I've now sent it off to them and they will let me know if I still need to go to Seattle in Nov. for the Grand Jury. That's about it. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Re: desperate.... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:53:54 -0500 > From: shadow <shadow(a)tfs.net> > Subject: Re: desperate.... > > >Could you give any info about wireless transmission especifically > >satellite transmission. > > >Thank you and I desperately need your help. > > Well lets see, what kind of government budget are you working with or > are just indepentantly wealthy? > > It takes lots o' money to get setup in satellite transmission unless you > just want to receive the info then that is as cheap as getting a used > dish and the equipment to go with it. If you plan to transmit, then the > good ol' boys of the FCC will want your money for a license. Then there > are zoning laws to check into, construction permits, concret to pour, > power for it, and oh a wife that will put up with it in the yard. Wow, and all I have to do is setup my DirectPC dish and pay about $150/mo. for 400K (max) down-link bandwidth, though I do need some mechanism to transmit my data out, a regular modem works with the standard software. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CJustice
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We got documents on CJ from the US District Court,Western WA, in Tacoma. Pretty skimpy but informative on why CJ has been held for two months since his arrest on August 18. As noted earlier, CJ has been indicted, clubbed with a blunt instrument: COUNT 1 Beginning on or about June 23, 1997, and continuing through December 9, 1997, at Tacoma and elsewhere, within the Western District of Washington, CARL EDWARD JOHNSON, did threaten to kill certain federal law enforcement officers and judges of the United States, with intent to impeded, intimidate, or interfere with said officers and judges on account of their official duties. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 115(a)(1)(B). Dated September 30 1998. The June 23 and December dates bracket the messages cited in the complaint by Jeff Gordon, and discussed here. The grand jury must have base its charge on Jeff's complaint for there's no explication of the charges in the indictment. (See the complaint at: http://jya.com/cejfiles.htm.) On the date of the indictment a bench warrant was issued for CJ's arrest. It was returned on October 9 marked "returned unexcuted - warrant issued in error - per AUSA Robb London." CJ was in Springfield during this time. There were two handwritten notes. One says: "Called Tucson - Have Mag case on 98-2824M. Undergoing psych eval. 8/26/98. 520-620-7200. The other: "10/5/98. Per Tucson, Deft in Psych Eval. Unsure of dates in order to figure Speedy Trail." A Case Status form, dated September 22, 1998, notes that CJ is in detention based on a District of Arizona order, with the note, "8-18-98; now awaiting compentency evaluation and R40 hearing." At the bottom the form states "The estimated trial time is 4 trial days." What's screwy about all this is that when the grand jury returned the indictment and a bench warrant was issued, CJ was in Springfield but the AUSA seemed not to know it, or didn't tell the magistrate who issued the bench warrant, although the notes in the case file clearly showed that this information had been recorded. Who knows what else the grand jury and judge was told or not told by the US Attorneys and the IRS -- the public record tells naught. And CJ's right to a speedy trial, though noted, is overridden by the prolonged psychological evaluation process, as well as overlooked or ignored communications between WA and AZ. And the buffoonish bench warrant? That appears to indicate incompetence in the US Attorney's office -- that's AUSA Robb London in charge (not to slight Katrina Pflaumer, USA, and William Redkey, AUSA, who also signed the indictment). And the four days for a trial for alleged murder attempts? Is this real? Or is this threat of quick vicious justice by biased attorneys with vengence in mind, coupled with the prolonged delay, a ploy to coerce CJ to plead? Brings back memories of Jim Bell's punishment by delay, isolation, manipulation, change of jails, and coercion, with a plea bargain just to get the the psychological torture to stop. Wonder if Jim and CJ are allowed to swap tips and tricks on surviving political imprisonment in the United States of America. Creative writing of text and music, lyrics for the song of assassination politics by American Justice.

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Re: SSZ - IRS update (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:26:29 -0400 > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > Subject: Re: SSZ - IRS update > Okay, thanks for the update. Any chance that affidavit can > be shared? Or is there a sword over your head? > > Not meaning to get in your affairs, just hoping for information. Once I know that my part in the matter is concluded I'll scan and make available the subpeona, the affadavit, & the RCMP photo of Toto that I was asked to identify, but not to share around at this time. That won't occur until I've either been released from the Grand Jury or appeared before them. I will continue to make updates as events unfold provided they don't conflict with any actions (or non-actions) that I've agreed to comply with. > Can you tell more about the lack of support from Austin cpunks, > any change, or are you left to fend for yourself? Um, I would have to say that other than the one person who helped me obtain a lawyer to review my subpeona and affadavit, another person apologized for their oversight, I've basicaly received zero support. I've decided that since the group is so apathetic about the entire set of issues relating to cryptography, civil liberties, & economics I won't be hosting the webpage or mailing list after Nov. 1, 1998. This bums me out more than I know how to express, something like 4+ years worth of effort shot to shit. It has such potential but will remain unfulfilled so long as members find the O'Henry Pun-Off more important. This in no way will alter my continued support of the CDR node I host. There has not been a single piece of discussion on the Austin Cpunks mailing list itself other than my announcement that I was ceasing support and 1 persons responce that they had no objections. > Sorry to say the obvious, but watch your back. No not Adam, > he's certifiably cuckoo, it's the reasonable people that scare me. ^ supposedly :) ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: APM: A Meeting (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:55:55 -0500 > From: "Mark P. Fister" <fister(a)inetport.com> > Subject: Re: APM: A Meeting > So here goes: > > A) Wayne, in order to constantly let everyone know how many are subscribed, > could you start an 'Administrivia' mailing which prefaces the subject line > with the number of people currently subscribed? This is what Russ Cooper > does with the NTBugTraq mailing list. :) Wayne doesn't set policy for SSZ. I must admit I'm at a loss as to why this particular piece of info is the least bit interesting. While I have no objections in principle somebody else will have to do the programming and demonstrate it will work *before* it goes into place on SSZ. Wayne does have permission to experiment on SSZ machines. The code must be stable *and* fail-safe. Before it goes in it will be required to demonstrate various failure modes. > flexible scripting engine accessing mongo data and displaying hip graphics > to the user through their favorite browser." Check it out - you won't be > sorry. Till you see the bill for supporting all those hip (sic) graphics and have to spend the time responding to all the bitches about how long it takes for end-users to get those pages to their machines. I'd like to offer another operating paradigm for the list, leave all the marketing bullshit elsewhere. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by nations＠freeyellow.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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ignore my mail coz I'm through with it
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Bernardo B. Terrado" <bbt(a)mudspring.uplb.edu.ph> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com Subject: desperate.... Could you give any info about wireless transmission especifically satellite transmission. Thank you and I desperately need your help.

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ANNOUNCEMENT: RPK SECURITY'S "SAFECRACKER CHALLENGE" INVITES USERS TO "BREAK" RPK ENCRYPTONITE ENGINE AND WIN $10,000
by Jack Oswald / CEO / RPK Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have received this message because at some time in the past your name was submitted to our e-mail mailing list database. If you do not wish (or no longer wish) to receive announcements, updates and news concerning the RPK Encryptonite Engine or the RPK InvisiMail e-mail security products, please forward this message to remove(a)rpkusa.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT Paula Miller Lyn Oswald Nadel Phelan, Inc. RPK Security Inc. 408-439-5570 x277 212-488-9891 paulam(a)nadelphelan.com lynoswald(a)rpkusa.com RPK SECURITY'S "SAFECRACKER CHALLENGE" INVITES USERS TO "BREAK" RPK ENCRYPTONITE ENGINE AND WIN $10,000 SAN FRANCISCO, CA. October 21, 1998 - RPK Security, Inc. (www.rpkusa.com) a technology leader in fast public key encryption, announced today the "SafeCracker Challenge", a contest offering US$10,000 to the first person who breaks the technology behind the company's uniquely fast public key cryptosystem, RPK Encryptonite Engine. In order to receive the cash reward, participants must download the encrypted test document and test public key from RPK Security's website, www.rpkusa.com, and then submit via email the private key that corresponds to the current test public key, or the correctly decrypted test document. "We're launching the SafeCracker Challenge to demonstrate that the RPK Encryptonite Engine provides the most secure, fast and flexible public key system on the market today," said Jack Oswald, president and CEO of RPK Security. "Recently patented in New Zealand and the US, the technology behind the RPK Encryptonite Engine is based on the same mathematics as Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange, a widely used algorithm for creating secure network-based communications systems, and is highly respected by security experts." The RPK Encryptonite Engine is a uniquely fast public key algorithm for encryption, authentication and digital signatures. It offers a combination of the benefits of commonly used public key systems (ease of key management, authentication and digital signatures) and the high performance characteristics of commonly used symmetric or "secret key" systems. Developed outside of the U.S., the RPK Encryptonite Engine is available globally with strong encryption, unlike competing products that are restricted by U.S. export regulations. ABOUT RPK SECURITY Founded in 1995, RPK Security, Inc. is a technology leader in fast public key cryptography. Its flagship RPK Encryptonite(tm) Engine, a uniquely fast and strong public key encryption technology, is available worldwide in custom hardware and software toolkits on multiple platforms. Developed from widely accepted security mathematics and techniques, the RPK Encryptonite Engine is easily embedded into new and existing hardware and software applications. RPK's cryptographic research and product development is based in New Zealand, Switzerland and the U.K, with worldwide sales and marketing operations in San Francisco, CA. Visit RPK's website at www.rpkusa.com or call (212) 488-9891.

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Re:
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's an idea. FUCK OFF! Why don't you go stick a Y2k bowling ball up your ass, and never post here again, you degenerate piece of shit! Or better yet, take every member of your administrative research department, march them up to the roof of the highest building in Silicon Valley, and push them all off! Then throw yourself off, you spineless maggot! The only letters I'm looking for are the ones signed by Janet Reno to the BATF to march in and kill your entire employee base. Please let me know when those arrive. At 12:55 PM 10/21/98 +0000, nations(a)freewilly.com wrote: > 10/21/98 > >Y2K Solution! >8 Pine Circle Dr., Silicon Valley, Calif. > >OTC Company "TCFG" 21 st. Century Frontier Group has >through several members of their administrative research >department leaked vital information about their companies >efforts. > >Everyone was tight lipped and interviews were refused, >and through un-named sources we have learned that the >technology and software solution are in the process of >being patented! > >In over 1640 trials, using various data systems the use >of the new technology and software solved the Y2K >problem 100% of the time. > >This small publicly traded company "TCFG" which is just >3 years old is through various sources now negotiating >with the "Big Boys"! > >"TCFG" the letters to look for..... > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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ANNOUNCEMENT: INVISIMAIL INTERNATIONAL LTD. ANNOUNCES RPK InvisiMail VERSION 3.0
by Jack Oswald / CEO / RPK Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have received this message because at some time in the past your name was submitted to our e-mail mailing list database. If you do not wish (or no longer wish) to receive announcements, updates and news concerning the RPK Encryptonite Engine or the RPK InvisiMail e-mail security products, please forward this message to remove(a)rpkusa.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT Paula Miller Lyn Oswald Nadel Phelan, Inc. RPK Security Inc. 408-439-5570 x277 212-488-9891 paulam(a)nadelphelan.com lynoswald(a)rpkusa.com INVISIMAIL INTERNATIONAL LTD. ANNOUNCES RPK InvisiMail VERSION 3.0 New York, NY, October 21 1998 - InvisiMail International, Ltd., (www.InvisiMail.com) announced today the latest release of its RPK InvisiMail Intro 3.0 and RPK InvisiMail Deluxe 3.0 e-mail encryption products. RPK InvisiMail provides individual e-mail users with the easiest solution for automatically and transparently encrypting e-mail messages and attachments. The first e-mail security product with globally strong encryption, RPK InvisiMail integrates seamlessly with more e-mail products than any other security solution available today. RPK InvisiMail enables authentication of the sender and verifies contents have not been changed in transit. RPK InvisiMail Intro provides fast, secure (607bit) encryption for e-mail messages and attachments, and is unobtrusive allowing e-mail which is sent to non-InvisiMail users to be simply and intelligently passed as a conventional e-mail message. RPK InvisiMail Deluxe adds an even higher level of security (up to 1279bit) and provides features such as e-mail compression that reduces transmission time, and digital message signatures to validate senders. InvisiMail International also offers RPK InvisiMail Enterprise Edition, a strong corporate e-mail security add-in. RPK InvisiMail Enterprise Edition's flexible design allows corporate IT managers to configure e-mail security for individual users, networks and gateways. More Pricing and Availability The RPK InvisiMail Intro version is free. The Deluxe version retails for $29.95 U.S. Both the Intro and the Deluxe versions are available for download from the InvisiMail International web site at www.InvisiMail.com. Pricing for RPK InvisiMail Enterprise Edition is based on the number of seat licenses and starts at $100 per user. ABOUT InvisiMail INTERNATIONAL LTD. InvisiMail International Ltd., founded in 1997, specializes in secure Internet commerce and communications solutions for a wide range of applications. Developed using RPK Security, Inc.'s core technology, the RPK Encryptonite Engine, the InvisiMail range of products supports secure message-based applications including Client Services ECommerce, EDI and others that require absolute confidentiality and the highest security levels. This allows the simplest e-mail systems to become the most powerful business and commerce tools. Contact InvisiMail at www.InvisiMail.com or call +44 1624 611 003. ABOUT RPK SECURITY Founded in 1995, RPK Security, Inc. is a technology leader in fast public key cryptography. Its flagship RPK Encryptonite Engine, a uniquely fast and strong public key encryption technology, is available worldwide in custom hardware and software toolkits on multiple platforms. Visit RPK's website at www.rpkusa.com or call (212) 488-9891.

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PRNGs and testers.
by X1 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, A few questions on Pseudo Random Number Generators... 1. Which are the best software PRNG's available today? 2. Are there any software implementations to test the randomness of a PRNG ? I've looked at Diehard - is there anything else? Thanks, R Sriram.

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Re: "We have to destroy privacy in order to protect privacy"
by Theodor.SCHLICKMANN＠BXL.DG13.cec.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is privacy? Just now the political representatives show the world how protection of privacy looks like in the world's leading Nation. Victim is the President himself who unwillingly has become a benchmark case because of his sexual affairs. Although this is a matter of law, only political strategies are executed. Protection of privacy turns out to be the most important human rights issue in this information technology age. Definition of privacy is difficult. It includes not only data protection; it draws a line at the border where a society is allowed to get concerned about an individual. Louis Brandeis, Member of the Supreme Court, said in 1890: The right for privacy is the right for an individual to live for him/her-self. Protection of privacy includes protection of private information, safety, protection of communication, and protection of territory (house, public space, and work place). Following several articles in American newspapers, privacy at the work place is in great danger. Surveillance is very often made part of the contract with the employer. A Report by the American Management Association says that two thirds of employers are controlling emails and other work at the computer, and are tapping phone calls. Surveillance cameras are used, e.g., to trace movements of employees in company buildings; regular tests for drugs, requests for intimate information and various psychological tests are performed. Many people in the US may believe this is normal. Who tells them that this a violation of privacy rights ? The government ? Bill Gates ? Tim May ? Tim May wrote: >To be more concrete, if I compile lists of who is writing articles on >Usenet, I have no obligation to either purge these records or >show them to others or not sell them or _anything_. The >government cannot get at myrecords except under limited >situations. If companies are using personal data, which they have gathered from open sources, without explicit permission for other purposes than in direct business with that person, then they are violating data protection rules. If the sources are not open, then they are also violating fair competition rules which may be considered to be criminal in some countries. Tim May wrote: >Europe's "data privacy laws," which I have been critical of for >more than ten years now, are an abomination. While the laws >sound well-intentioned, they effectively give the state the power >to sift through filing cabinets and disk drives looking for violations. Sifting through filing cabinets is also clearly a violation of privacy rights. However, does it mean that privacy is uncontrollable? Alternatively, the only protection is not to put any personal data on a network. Use your pseudonym instead. Strong encryption does not help, because the receiver side may not respect your privacy. Theodor Schlickmann

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Status of GSM Crypto Attacks
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forward from anonymous: Wed, 21 Oct 98 An engineer at a US wireless telecom and a contributor to Cryptologia--has asked me to look into the present status of attacks on the GSM encryption schemes: comp128 (a3a8 authentication, etc.) and, more importantly, the A5.1 and A5.2 voice/data encryption algorithms. After searching the web, I see that you have similar interests in this matter. I've already sent off inquiries to some of the researchers in this area--Ross Anderson, Simon Shepherd and the two Berkeley students (Goldberg and Wagner). So far, I've only heard back from Wagner. Do you have anything interesting to say about this matter--has anything happened since the Spring? Has a consensus been reached on some of the issues discussed in the <http://jya.com/crack-a5.htm> document? I'm trying to get a handle on the present state-of-the art: Where do things presently stand--who is doing the work and what, if anything, has been verified/demonstrated? Has A5 been cracked? What can be said about the possibility of intercepting and decoding an on-air conversation?

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Forwarded mail...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Theodor.SCHLICKMANN(a)BXL.DG13.cec.be > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:12:37 +0200 > Subject: Re: "We have to destroy privacy in order to protect privacy" > What is privacy? The ability to store or archive material without worry of it being distributed without prior permission. The right to tell somebody you won't answer their question or include them in the dicussion, to the extend of asking them to go someplace else so they can't overhear or grab the dialogue. Ultimately it's a societal behavior that is exemplified by citizens not obtaining material that is relevant or related to you without involving you from the beginning. > Although this is a matter of law, only political > strategies are executed. Law == Politics > Protection of privacy turns out to be the most important > human rights issue in this information technology age. Um, actualy Writ of Habeas Corpus is the most important right. Privacy and everything else are moot if your sitting in a jail cell with no hope of release or trial. > Following several articles in American newspapers, > privacy at the work place is in great danger. There isn't any privacy at the workspace. When you hire on to an employer *AND* agree to work on their premises you voluntarily give this up. It is the same situation as if you hire a kiddy-watcher and you video-tape the activity for your protection. If you really want privacy protection in the workplace then insist that detailed limits are included in any contract (pretty much unheard of). ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Women cannot commit rape?
by Tim Griffiths 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

French Supreme Court rules that women cannot commit rape Copyright © 1998 Nando.net Copyright © 1998 Reuters News Service PARIS (October 21, 1998 06:38 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - France's Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that women are unable to commit the crime of rape because they cannot sexually penetrate men. "The material element of the crime of rape is only realized if the perpetrator commits the act of sexual penetration on the person of the victim," it said in its judgment. The court, known as the Cour de Cassation, overturned a lower court ruling that Catherine Maillard could be tried for rape on charges of forcing her underage stepson to have sex with her repeatedly between 1986 and 1992. Maillard could only be tried for "aggravated sexual aggression" against the boy, while his father Michel Deloisy had to be tried for "moral abandonment of a child" instead of the original charge of "complicity in aggravated rape," the court said. With its judgment, the court seemed to contradict an earlier ruling it issued in December 1997 saying that forcing someone to perform oral sex act was legally equivalent to rape. -- Tim Griffiths griffith(a)wis.weizmann.ac.il Center for Submicron Research http://tim01.ex.ac.uk Weizmann Institute of Science (972)-8-934-2736 Rehovot 76100 Israel PGP Public key available - finger tim(a)tim01.ex.ac.uk The real value lies not in what I say or do, but in your reaction to it. -DF

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UK police chase crooks on CCTV
by Tim Griffiths 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Associated Press via The Wash. Post, Oct 17, 1998 http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/searches/mainsrch.htm#ap Chasing Crooks on Closed Circuit TV http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19981017/V000263-101798-idx .ht ml LONDON (AP) -- An ``intelligent'' computer system that uses closed circuit television to match faces in a crowd to mug shots of known criminals is likely to become London's latest weapon against crime. Scotland Yard and a local council have installed the $100,000 CCTV system on a trial basis in Newham, a poor district in London's East End. Newspapers reported Thursday that the computer system, called Mandrake, is linked to 144 CCTVs in Newham's shopping centers, railway stations and car parks and can scan up to 150 faces at a time and compare them with a database of criminals stored on a computer at the council's headquarters. If there is a match between a face in the crowd and a known criminal, the computer alerts a monitoring team in the town hall, who in turn alert the police. Civil liberties groups said they were alarmed by the new system, but police defended its use. ``The only people entered on to the system will be convicted criminals who, through our intelligence, we believe are habitually committing crimes in the area,'' The Daily Mail quoted police Chief Superintendent Dave Armond as saying. ``If people are not committing crime they have nothing to fear, but if they are among the small minority who are, the message is, 'We are watching out for you.''' The newspaper reported that police initially will use the system to concentrate on catching robbery suspects. In the future, however, it could be used to search crowds for hooligans who stir up trouble at soccer matches. CCTV's developer, Software and Systems International, says the system is accurate enough to discern people hiding behind make-up or eye glasses. And growing a beard won't help either, the company says. Britain has 150,000 close circuit television cameras. While most Britons appear happy the devices are being used to tackle crime, civil liberties groups oppose both the cameras and the facial matching. ``The accuracy of facial mapping like this is limited. You only need a handful of photographs of celebrities to see how different the same people can look in different pictures,'' the Mail quoted Liz Parratt, spokeswoman for Liberty, a civil rights group, as saying. ``Even if you did have a system which worked, it would have to be regulated very carefully to protect people's privacy.'' \ Copyright 1998 The Associated Press -- Tim Griffiths griffith(a)wis.weizmann.ac.il Center for Submicron Research http://tim01.ex.ac.uk Weizmann Institute of Science (972)-8-934-2736 Rehovot 76100 Israel PGP Public key available - finger tim(a)tim01.ex.ac.uk The real value lies not in what I say or do, but in your reaction to it. -DF

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UK police chase crooks on CCTV (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:21:04 +0200 > From: Tim Griffiths <griffith(a)wis.weizmann.ac.il> > Subject: UK police chase crooks on CCTV > Civil liberties groups said they were alarmed by the new system, but > police defended its use. > > ``The only people entered on to the system will be convicted criminals > who, through our intelligence, we believe are habitually committing > crimes in the area,'' The Daily Mail quoted police Chief Superintendent > Dave Armond as saying. ``If people are not committing crime they have > nothing to fear, but if they are among the small minority who are, the > message is, 'We are watching out for you.''' > > The newspaper reported that police initially will use the system to > concentrate on catching robbery suspects. In the future, however, it Excuse me.... Since when does 'suspected of' equate to 'convicted criminal'? Also, in order to wath you (sic) they have to watch everyone - in effect guilty until proven innocent by the computer software. What sort of civil recovery are provided for the inevitable software errors? I bet nadda, and that's wrong too. This is Big Brother Spin Doctor BULLSHIT. We need a law or court ruling pretty quickly in the US that sets the standard that a group of people have no more or less rights than an individual. This will required LEA's to provide probable cause prior to any actions against groups of people (such as this). If they can't audio tape me, or seize my papers and correspondences without a warrant then they bloody well can't video me without a warrant either ,within the context of criminal proceedings. Does anyone know if *any* PAC/SIG/whatever has this as their main political agenda? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a similar note, here in Austin they are finishing up with putting hundreds of cameras around town. It isn't long before these sorts of social theory X'ers get their teeth in the shank of American society. We've got(!) to put a stop to this sort of stuff. The law should basicaly ok the use of cameras for vehicular traffic control (this does NOT include execution of speeding infractions and such), this means no police or other LEA's may be involved or view the tapes *without* a warrant. The operators and support personnel should be required to abide by a strict non-disclosure agreement as well. If they notice a wreck or whatever they should notify the relevant emergency personel and *IF* the police serve a warrent only then turn over the tape. This is a perfect example of why I, personaly, believe that a polycratic democracy is the only workable kind in the real world. The 'seperate but equal' doctrine should effect every aspect of a democratic society. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Women cannot commit rape? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:19:57 +0200 > From: Tim Griffiths <griffith(a)wis.weizmann.ac.il> > Subject: Women cannot commit rape? > French Supreme Court rules that women cannot commit rape > "The material element of the crime of rape is only realized if the > perpetrator > commits the act of sexual penetration on the person of the victim," it > said in > its judgment. Can a man get a STD from a women? Do men not have the same civil liberties and concepts of personal privacy that women do? Are we now faced with the ultimate in sex discrimination - having two sets of laws that are specific to sex? Rape is about an invasion of personal physical privacy. More big brother spin doctor bullshit. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: UK police chase crooks on CCTV
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Tim Griffiths[SMTP:griffith@wis.weizmann.ac.il] forwarded (yet > another) report on the Mandrake facial recognition system, this time > from http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/searches/mainsrch.htm#ap > > [...snip...] > CCTV's developer, Software and Systems International, says > the system is accurate enough to discern people hiding > behind make-up or eye glasses. And growing a beard won't > help either, the company says. [...snip...] According to SSI at http://www.ssi-ltd.co.uk/latenews.htm#Law the program uses the position of facial features to recognise you. > Even if offenders try to disguise their appearance, > say S&SI, the system will still identify them, as it is > based on recognising facial structure, such as the > spacing between the eyes, nose and mouth. It takes > into account, and disregards, variations of head > orientation, lighting conditions, skin colour, > make-up, facial expression, facial hair, spectacles > and ageing. So presumably can be confused by obscuring the exact postion of features - such as a dense moustache that covers the mouth, or the presence or absence of a hairstyle that seems to change the shape of the head. I shave my head - if I grew back some "big hair", or wore a wig, would the sytem be able to tell where the top of my skull was? Maybe a full beard would change the apparent width of the whole head. Maybe dark glasses would obscure the exact position of the eyes. As we all know criminals are too stupid to use strong cryptography without an export license, there is no way any of them would think of novel high-tech solutions such as wearing a hat or a scarf. Just to add some irony, the main line used to sell this to the British public is control of football (soccer) "hooligans". Like child pornography or the "war on drugs", football fans are easy target for repressive measures. No respectable citizen wants to be associated with the "trouble makers". And of course, football fans are notorious for not wearing scarves or hats, aren't they :-) Ken Brown (& not his bosses)

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cypherpunks archives, books
by Joseph 'Anonymous' Howe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could someone post the address of the current cypherpunks archives again? Everything seems to be missing or out of date. Also, what's the name of that book... The Crystal Palace? Maybe I'm confused. Thanks for the info. --THE LIE

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RE: UK police chase crooks on CCTV (fwd)
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The toys are just getting too easy to deploy. Imaging, compression, networking, mass storage etc...Fucking engineers, oops! A few fronts: Political - this is the preferable way of dealing with this crap but also the most disturbing because many of those in power seem to think snooping is a wonderful idea. Tough to convince them that a little uncertainty is a *good* thing. Technical: Briefcase-sized EMP - fun idea but I don't know how to make it workable. HV generator on the end of a stick - not too tough. High power LASER to burn out CCDs - buy anonymously, nice, works from a safe distance. What's needed are moles to leak detailed info on systems as they're planned and installed. Then it would be easy to determine the weak points. If each camera had to be guarded there would be a *huge* problem just keeping the systems alive. Mike

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17 Dec '03

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The Trouble With Harry
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com>: >Can you tell more about the lack of support from Austin cpunks, >any change, or are you left to fend for yourself? tis is why i am not a cypherpunk. you people have no care for your fellow man! first jim bell, then toto, now choate, soon youll all be gone....

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The Trouble With Harry (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: 22 Oct 1998 00:20:03 -0000 > From: HyperReal-Anon <nobody(a)sind.hyperreal.art.pl> > Subject: The Trouble With Harry > John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com>: > > >Can you tell more about the lack of support from Austin cpunks, > >any change, or are you left to fend for yourself? > > tis is why i am not a cypherpunk. you people have > no care for your fellow man! first jim bell, then > toto, now choate, soon youll all be gone.... Hold on hear a second, let's get the facts straight. I am NOT being accussed of anything. I have been asked to act as a witness for the prosecution (not explicitly the target thereof). Unfortunately for the prosecutions case, I'm not a witness to anything relevant. If I were aware of some kook running around building bombs with the intention of using them on people, their property, or animals I'd be the first to turn their nutty butts in. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The latest news from Toto
by Joseph 'Anonymous' Howe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I got a letter from Toto today, and he's doing well. Or at least as well as one can under his circumstances. He has a few friendly requests, though, which I'm not necessarily in any position to respond to. * Does anyone have an RSA-in-perl t-shirt (or sweatshirt, or whatever) to spare? He wants the Well Dressed CypherPunk Defendant Look (TM) in court. * Declan McCullagh: Congratulations, you've been added to the visitors' list. * Oh, yeah! If someone could mail me copies of the FPP stuff, it would be nice, since the Shrink Rapper has copies and I don't. (The IRS is sending it to him as part of his punishment for laughing at my jokes...) If anyone knows what he's referring to, reply to the cpunks list and I'll get in touch personally, or just mail it to him directly. MailMonger

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FW: rules of engagement (fwd)
by Carlos Macedo Gomes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Adam Back [SMTP:aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk] > Clearly I think one should be able to say wtf one wants to, and in > general I endeavor to do just that. But I am suggesting that > cypherpunks individually stear clear of grey areas, such as say > creative tax minimisation, Duncan Frissel style "it's not illegal to > do blah with social security numbers", Tim May style "I've got X > number of now illegal armament Y", (unless you also have the money for > good lawyers) and so on, whether technically legal or not, as one > would be taking above average risks in doing so, because governments > are watching this list, and a number of it's subscribers. I agree with Adam on sticking to legally achievable goals-- or at least legally achievable without needing unlimited funds to feed the army of lawyers that will be needed to keep you and your cohorts out of prison. To me that would include the realm of projects related to strong crypto, electronic cash, anonymity and privacy-- vague as those topics may be. That said... I was at the meeting in July with Jim when Toto showed up. It was my first attendance at an Austin Cpunk meeting and I was looking forward to working on some great projects with some hopefully great local folks. To me Toto showing up was simply a very interesting road sign (or graffiti) on the path to achieving pragmatic, long-living "cypherpunks write code" projects the first of which was to be the Crypto Conference that we were hoping to host and that we were discussing at that meeting with members of EF Texas. BTW: Whatever happended to the Classified Ad project?? Jim fought for that but it fell apart when the focus of the conference was was moved by another local group to a non-crypto topic. We took the synergies from the remains of conference project and started work on a Cypherpunks meta-web-archive this time with a joint effort by myself, some fellow programmers and the Austin Cpunks. This project as well started strong out of the gates but lost steam around the first corner. In part it was due to looming, work related project deadlines-- as far as I know none involved in the local projects are retired, Austin hitech fatcats (yet). But mostly this last project and the local meetings halted I think due to Jim's relating to the group the events that were happening with him regarding Toto. I think the really sad thing here is not that we didn't rise up as a group to stop the government's inquiries of Jim with regards to the Toto case but simply that we individually offered very limited support directly to Jim himself. And from speaking with Jim and reading his emails it appears that the support was in the form of a referral to lawyers (who apparently were not ready to do any _pro bono_ work) and an apology from myself for lack of offer of assistance when it became obvious to me that the long standing local group had not offered assistance. I think Jim did a great job with the local group and it's truly a sad indictment against the relationships we had (or thought we had) in the group where our "sponsor" is put in a spotlight for acting as a primary for the group that we're supposedly active in and there's no show of support... Again, not with intent to support Toto, or thwart government inquiries, but just to check to see how Jim's doing under the strain of possible government scrutiny. Anyhow the local group does look to be dead. I'd still like to get group coding projects and the like accomplished while I'm in Austin and suspect they will still happen and hopefully with Jim and some of the other local folks involved. But I don't think there will be an "Austin Cpunk" group after this. I'd be glad to have someone prove me wrong. That's my $0.02 on the events of the past few months.... Now back to reality. waves, C.G. -- Carlos Macedo Gomes gomes(a)navigo.com a Navigo farmer

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Re: Women cannot commit rape?
by Kevin Elliott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>French Supreme Court rules that women cannot commit rape > >Copyright © 1998 Nando.net >Copyright © 1998 Reuters News Service > >PARIS (October 21, 1998 06:38 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - >France's >Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that women are unable to commit the >crime of >rape because they cannot sexually penetrate men. This is true in the United States as well. That's why in every state, technically speaking, their is no crime of "rape" just varying degrees and types of "criminal sexual assault". I'm suprised that hasn't trickled down to france yet. Rape is defined as forcing someone to have sexual intercourse. It doesn't take much imagination to build an argument that you can't force a man to have sex, after all he had to get aroused. The advantage of criminal sexual assualt is that it side steps these kind of issues by greatly broadening the crime to basicly forcing/manipulating someone to engae in any kind of sexual activity. ___________________________________________________________________________ "DOS/WIN based computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions of others, are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form." - New York Times -Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott <mailto:k-elliott@wiu.edu>

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Re: Women cannot commit rape?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>This is true in the United States as well. That's why in every state, >technically speaking, their is no crime of "rape" just varying degrees and >types of "criminal sexual assault". I'm suprised that hasn't trickled down >to france yet. Rape is defined as forcing someone to have sexual >intercourse. It doesn't take much imagination to build an argument that >you can't force a man to have sex, after all he had to get aroused. The >advantage of criminal sexual assualt is that it side steps these kind of >issues by greatly broadening the crime to basicly forcing/manipulating >someone to engae in any kind of sexual activity. "You get hard right now or I take this knife and cut your balls off sloooowly! You have one minute." That is probably out in left field. I doubt it would happen much.

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Re: Women cannot commit rape? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:50:50 -0500 > From: Kevin Elliott <k-elliott(a)wiu.edu> > Subject: Re: Women cannot commit rape? > This is true in the United States as well. That's why in every state, I don't believe that is accurate. Just about 2 years ago two women were sentenced to prison because they kidnapped and raped a man. Perhaps one of the more versed in case law members might remember it. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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FW: rules of engagement (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:47:40 -0500 (CDT) > From: Carlos Macedo Gomes <gomes(a)www.navigo.com> > Subject: FW: rules of engagement (fwd) > discussing at that meeting with members of EF Texas. BTW: Whatever > happended to the Classified Ad project?? It was going along fine until I made the mistake of asking when.... I'd offered a couple of dates, nobody ever commented on them. I can still cover Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, El Paso. A single paper in each city. I'd say do it like Thanksgiving Day or Christmas. I need 1 months warning. It might be kind of cool to put regular ads in with various comments like the 1st Amendment, or questions regarding civil liberties, famous quotes, etc. Just sign it, Cypherpunks ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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RE: UK police chase crooks on CCTV (fwd)
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> William H. Geiger III[SMTP:whgiii@invweb.net] wrote (among other > stuff): > > > What we need is a mechanism to punish the politicians > who go down the Big Brother path *and* the companies > who are making big profits helping them. > IMHO the UK, and the rest of Europe, is a lost cause, > it's sheeple are too brainwashed The best bit of news of the last few days is Pinochet's arrest. It lifted my heart. Almost made up for the all the bad stuff the UK government has been coming out with. (Also it brought Thatcher out of the woodwork. Like a large segment of the British Tory party she really is/was an authoritarian, paying lip-service to the Free Market for political reasons. You can tell them by the company they keep.)

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Recent biometrics discussion
by Tanya D. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, A member told me about the discussion of biometrics going on recently. I'm doing a research project on biometrics and would be really interested in reading through those postings. Could someone please point me to the archive where I can find recent postings about biometrics? Thanks. Tanya -- Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous! Do not tremble or be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go. Josh. 1:9

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Re: dbts: The Economic Cause of Privacy
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Remember, the reason we have no financial privacy these days is because we >have book-entry settlement, which relies on biometric identity, known physical >location, and the force of a nation state as the ultimate "error-handler" to >prevent repudiation in the transaction protocol. Yes, and cars break down because there are service shops. Utter nonsense. There is no financial privacy because because those who would like such thing have less power (hired guns) than those who would not like it. And those with controlling interests in modern societies do not like it because control would be lost, and population harvesting (aka taxing) would have to be radically changed, and that is expensive. The system is self-supporting. Idea that somehow smart algorithms will bring financial privacy is a good starting point for cryptoaddict's wet dream, but in reality has the same chance of success as survival rate of armed citizens against the government. Zero. (However, brandishing weapons and algorithms may alleviate some acute distress caused by excess testosterone levels :) Use of government-controlled, issued and supervised payment methods/instruments is in place because it is proscribed, not because "money/checks, etc. exist". Money is a highly artificial entity in the first place. It is "natural" to use currency-binded valuation as it is natural to go to church. And theorizing on money and economy in general has similarities to religious rituals. Therefore constructing computer-assisted anon payment schemes "because it is cheaper that way" is pointless. Money is not there to make your life easier. Money exists so that you can be taxed and conditioned to desired behaviour at minimal cost. Anonymous payments defy the principal reason money exists for, and is sanctioned (and enforced) by the state. The only way for society (or loosely coupled individuals) to function without abstractions like money (that need organized gun power to maintain) is direct exchange of goods and services with enforcement based on close relationships between parties. Has been tried, several thousand years ago, and such societies were annihilated by others who did organize. Which seems to be the fate of any anarchism in general. Barnmen

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NSA Info Sought
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An international television corporation seeks current or former National Security Agency employees and/or military members willing to provide information on the NSA base at Menwith Hill, England, and other operations of the US's global electronic surveillance and interception program. E-Mail: jy(a)jya.com JYA/Urban Deadline 251 West 89th Street, Suite 6E New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-873-8700 Fax: 212-799-4003 Anonymous and encrypted messages welcome. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.2 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQGiBDUT1GoRBAD96qrjqMjIZK30XrvsEgsDssidjh4gjxoM3XZwYvjuNqohFUYC W6ktcjtHkITXeCP0leprRByF4LIZZp75JrR/FODnpELnTQwzQ03kD/OTRBl+m2ED /3N4T29KwwKdvEvfoKgJ8UYrAb4nS5F7W26kiKAIslpIIKBSdMCWszoBRwCg/ydS 4PuvY6YJMbHc3Ir0OpW9NZ8EANM9K1c7OKDOQEriJOtYqlwd//qKP2GQLvq7Kdel /fjZRKBDW3vRRJZvNkTpMN44eRz2wJxuQh1Jjqj/RWO7+KkeJF1ftVhWcC3kzmBa 7HX2CXmFX2Y+/Fqk1nyzDh2hD5nDidYS4uDMgNfAKs8WBVqWY9l9rHmX3LvoKIUP WYGWBADFmYF5n+6LMwnrEWJb3/G/LPTz8bupjZAX3pk7JAysJjwet1ZRfN356RuF 8p4ia4BY8evpmwG0ICW0skrzPf6EelOGef7RpQN+4CSTHaF2lsMe4PFfQSI9c7lP vGG74byiiR7V9BpWR6yhsB18FZhrCXkp44HQTFEbqbDbKwB3krQdSm9obiBZb3Vu ZyA8anlhQHBpcGVsaW5lLmNvbT6JAEsEEBECAAsFAjUT1GoECwMCAQAKCRCDRF/O eTbvYJ2pAJ0cPHIxXi8h0tbgWOH9NgPof7uH7QCfee3M2/PHjS59s5KTLHi1qrHu O+m5Ag0ENRPUaxAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU 6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN /biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9 WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrtVjLhdONM0 /XwXV0OjHRhs3jMhLLUq/zzhsSlAGBGNfISnCnLWhsQDGcgHKXrKlQzZlp+r0ApQ mwJG0wg9ZqRdQZ+cfL2JSyIZJrqrol7DVekyCzsAAgIIANDxYVQYe4ZXIS8pYMT5 RyCM1IH8Zl2D29Dem3DpaR8nIaaV7S3MqtQ78m0dH2ae5GeyVEmNl1Hbr0N2SHzi tmAMHqU2wriYsWuczFO+55Qman924+0LHJTykpj6LIzs7C426hkj23nuDc4m4y4n p8wCLg8f4ySWwDHdFNgydRwcgC6M8Z5HqFeCsUFX5KPbZjxmMyD+jzoeKSKtju4D MqTMvbotVDycnjB4P2aXEas1iie4irlgB/bNsQCFQY3KdTJsCkb70KwaK+eAzo5Y iXXREZqK9XsIR65AG5B6jenwziwrTEirCtqDs4gqBt54X/IeKIjJDIYwTmUyxIcW GK2JAEYEGBECAAYFAjUT1GsACgkQg0Rfznk272D76gCg/LOtMsq7I0NnuEp3qr/I qKmOJngAoNPsyKKflQrPkA6LAJfFXVRmRSdx =KgPx -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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We spy for you
by Theodor.SCHLICKMANN＠BXL.DG13.cec.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/middle.phtml?channel=netzwelt&rub=02&cont=th…

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Re: "We have to destroy privacy in order to protect privacy"
by Theodor.SCHLICKMANN＠BXL.DG13.cec.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Slogan in the Subject used by Tim May. http://www.metromail.com/ sold for 845 Mio $. business: collecting and selling personal data from open sources. T. Schlickmann

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Re: PRNGs and testers.
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Hi, > > A few questions on Pseudo Random Number Generators... > > 1. Which are the best software PRNG's available today? > > 2. Are there any software implementations to test the randomness of a > PRNG ? I've looked at Diehard - is there anything else? > I found Bruce Schneier's paper on PRNGs at http://www.counterpane.com somewhat eye-opening.

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NOW! Talk of the Nation is discussing lack of reporting of certain news topics
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please try to call in between 12:00 and 1:00pm Pacific time to Talk of the Nation (1-800-989-TALK [8255]) to ask to talk about the lack of reporting on the EU's scuttled discussion of Echelon and NSA/FBI world wide spying! Ern

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RE: RE: IP: Fwd: Evaluation of Vehicle Stopping Prototype ("Kill Switch")
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kevin, Like it or not our society needs a police force. They have a dangerous and difficult job and I would never contend that the they should risk their lives unnecessarily. Furthermore, the 'suspect's' behavior is not defensible. But anyone who classifies a DOG as a HUMAN is DANGEROUS to other humans. > Definitely manslaughter, probably 2nd or even 1st degree murder. In That's FUCKING NUTS. Take the word manslaughter apart. int Screwball_Disney_Justice( int victim ){ int penalty; switch ( victim ){ case DOG : case MAN : penalty = ( MAX_PENALTY | BANKRUPTCY ); break; default : // covers consentual violations penalty = BANKRUPTCY; break; } return penalty; } > (I believe) every state the union the penalty for shooting a police > dog is the same as shooting an on duty police officer. Police dogs > are effectively classified as deputies. There are so many damn laws that anyone can be destroyed whenever the powers that be decide they're inconvenient. So you think a human should go to the gas chamber for killing a dog? Has the constitutionality of this been tested in any recent cases? What about the punishment fitting the crime? A few thousand bucks for a dog vs. a human life? I like animals and I think they should be treated with some respect but they are not people. My opinion of the incident was formed by the treating of a dog as human and the human as animal. BTW - what is your opinion of recent proposed laws banning the use of horses and dogs as food? A) Common sense. B) How could you eat such nice, smart animals? C) Tyranny of the Disneyfied majority. D) Total Bullshit. E) Both C and D. IMHO - E. What about cockfights? It usually lasts about 5-15 seconds and the loser becomes lunch. There is no *significant* difference between buying the chicken at the grocery and a cockfight. If you say that the difference is one of enjoying the violence - grow up. Just because the violence on the grocery store shelf is individually wrapped for your convenience doesn't alter its nature. Maybe we need a new law - a license to eat meat. Anyone who doesn't go through a course on killing their own meat should not be issued a carnivore permit with different stamps for different animal foods. Before you write the rant off as rambling crap the theme is - moronic personification and lack of perspective. Fuck Walt Disney - Because he's been fucking with our heads for decades. Every girl a princess, every boy a prince, every creature a human soul trapped in an animal's body. Mike rant, rant, rant...

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RE: Women cannot commit rape?
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "You get hard right now or I take this knife and cut your > balls off sloooowly! You have one minute." > > That is probably out in left field. I doubt it would > happen much. No, and I doubt it would work either. However any man who thinks they cannot be coerced into arousal by other (physical) means is terribly sexually naive. This is the problem with puritan judges. Some madam needs to tie him up and show him exactly how easy he could be raped -- that is if he's not impotent too. Matt

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Censored news topic censored ...
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear TOTN at NPR, This is most distressing. I was one of the very first callers to your Talk of the Nation show today whose topic was relevant news reporting in the US. My topic was the lack of reporting on the FBI's last minute sneak of the roving wire tap proposal into the intelligence budget bill. I wanted Ray to talk about the editorial process and how these things get dropped on the floor as this item is extremely important to our democracy because it is an agency charged with protecting our Constitutional rights (the FBI) who is deliberately circumventing the democratic legislative process to pass a law which was sounded defeated two years ago in open debate. Ironically, my topic was censored, and I waited an hour, while other people wanted to discuss things like how they can vent about their divorce difficulties through the Monica Lewinsky scandal, only to be dropped in the end. Would any of the NPR staff or Mr. Suarez would like to explain just what happened here? Ern -------- Ernest Hua, TeraLogic Inc, 1300 Villa St, Mountain View, CA 94041 (650) 526-6064, hua(a)teralogic-inc.com

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U.S. Group Sues To Stop Internet Pornography Act
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/nm/19981022/ts/porn_…

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