December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Officers face suspension for email offenses: Half of Town's Police Force Involved
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Chief cleans house after half the Department makes fun of him via email on Patrol Car Computer Terminals (PDC's)... (Plus it's a rally cool website - listen to police scanners while you read FBI FOIA files on people like Frank Sinatra). OAKLAND, N.J. (APB) -- Half of this small borough's police force may be suspended for allegedly using computer terminals in their patrol cars to send one another disrespectful comments about the chief and the borough. http://www.apbonline.com/911/1998/12/06/oakland1206_1.html

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FW: Survey Says Kids Feel 'Threatened' By Real Life
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ack, I missed one. Revised: ---------- Subject: FW: Survey Says Kids Feel 'Threatened' By Real Life A survey has suggested that up to one and a half million British children may have been upset by something they have heard or read. The NOP poll shows that one in five of nearly 4,000 children between the ages of six and 16 interviewed for the survey between September and October this year were "uncomfortable" with the state of world affairs. In the UK, 7.2 million children are estimated to be exposed to the outside world - roughly 98% of all children between six and 16. Of those who have had negative experiences while being outside the home, the largest proportion - 40% - had seen something "rude". 'Not surprised' One in seven said they had encountered information that had "freightened them", while 25% heard ideas that "would get them into trouble". NOP Associate Director Rob Lawson described the numbers as a "significant minority". The children's charity NCH Action for Children suggested the survey strengthened calls for censorship to protect younger people. Charity spokesman John Carr said: "I regret to say I'm not surprised by this survey's findings, it's what we have been saying for some time. Censors "Parents need to know their children are learning in safety and security. At the moment, they have no way of knowing that at all." NCH Action for Children, which advises the government on children's issues, backs the introduction of censors - people who filter out ideas unsuitable for children. The survey, called Kids.net, was paid for by Microsoft, the NSA, the GOP, China, and MCI/Worldcom in syndicate. The Department of Trade and Industry's forthcoming review on Thought regulation is expected to be published before Christmas. [satire on news from news.bbs.co.uk]

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Re: Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:51:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Max Inux <maxinux(a)bigfoot.com> > Subject: Re: Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area (fwd) > On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Jim Choate wrote: > >Damn, you beat me to it. I was going to post something about a dry run for > >Y2K in San Fran. > > > >Any rioting? > > Suprisingly, no looting, major accideents (Only one was in the unaffected > Fremont) by Mowry... dont go towards NAI or Great America ;-) Thanks for the feedback. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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wassenar crypto agrmt/wiretapping
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jonathan David Boyne <boyne(a)hawaii.edu> To: Undisclosed recipients:; Subject: [exploration] The Wassenaar Invasion of Privacy (fwd) >from: >http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.41/pageone.html ><A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.41/pageone.html">Laissez Faire City Times >- Volume 2 Issue 41</A> >The Laissez Faire City Times >December 7, 1998 - Volume 2, Issue 41 >Editor & Chief: Emile Zola >----- >The Wassenaar Invasion of Privacy > >by J. Orlin Grabbe > > >>From the first moment it proclaimed the "information superhighway", the >Clinton administration has waged a wholesale assault on Internet free >speech and privacy. > >The latest blow is the Clinton administration's strong- arming of the 32 >fellow countries of the Wassenaar Arrangement to agree to an export ban >on strong cryptographic (data scrambling) software. The net effect will >be to make it easier for each government to read its own citizen's email >and other private documents. > >Normally if a nation attempts to restrict the domestic sale of strong >encryption software, that attempt is made ineffective by the >availability of strong encryption software from other countries. But >such software won't be available anymore--at least not from one of the >Wassenaar countries, once they have enacted local legislation to >implement the terms of the Wassenaar agreement of December 2. > >The Wassenaar Arrangement is supposed to be an intergovernmental >agreement to restrict international traffic in arms. What does this have >to do with encryption? Simply this: the US government still holds that >secret-code-producing software is a munition. So if you encrypt your >letters and files, and the government hasn't given you permission to use >that caliber encryption, then the person who gave you the encryption >software may be in violation of some regulation on arms dealing. > >"They've plugged a loophole," gleefully proclaimed Ambassador David >Aaron, the President's Special Envoy for Cryptology. The day following >the agreement, the US Department of Commerce issued a press release in >which Aaron spouts gobble-de-gook phrases about a "level playing field" >and about balancing "commercial and privacy interests with national >security and public safety concerns" (see Appendix A for Commerce Dept. >press statement). > >How has this agreement supposedly created a "level playing field" and >helped U.S. industry? Well, namely, by censoring foreign publishers of >cryptology software in the same way that the US government already >censors US publishers. This is similar to arguing that by increasing >tyranny in surrounding countries, we can create a "level playing field" >for freedom. > >"It's ironic, but the US government is leading the charge >internationally to restrict personal privacy and individual liberty >around the world," said Alan Davidson, a staff counsel at the Center for >Democracy and Technology, according to Reuters (see Appendix B for >Reuter's news release). > >A restriction on cryptology is a restriction on free speech. In the >Second World War, the US used native Navaho speakers for secure >communications. Since no one else understood the language, it served as >a powerful secret code. But is what you speak or write in an email >message suddenly not speech or language if the government can't >understand it? If your message says "Xu23MN iilc]z MNBl", does the >government suddenly have the right to imprison you for writing >gibberish? > >While the clear answer is No, nevertheless the US government thinks it >has the right to restrict your "gibberish" if it is produced by >encryption software that it can't crack. The Wassenaar agreement says >encryption software that is "weak" (less than 56 bit keys in some cases, >or less than 64 bit keys in others), so that the government can >unscramble and read the real message underneath the gibberish, is okay, >and in fact frees up some export restrictions on this type of software. >The trade-off? Greater restrictions on software that produces secret >code the government can't read. > >Arms control. It sounds wonderful, doesn't it? Go over to the Wassenaar > web page and take a look. High nobility of purpose, right? "We're >keeping those guns away from the Indians," they proclaim. But what they >mean to say is: "We fully intend to read what is written on the hard >drive of your computer." > >Posting to the cypherpunks mailing list, Timothy May noted: > >I recently heard T. J. Rodgers, CEO of Cypress Semiconductor, repeat his >oft-made point that Silicon Valley and the high tech industry gains >nothing by talking to Washington. That as soon as dialog is started with >Washington, things get worse. This applies as well to crypto, to gun >rights, to everything. Everything Washington touches turns to statist >shit. > >Is there any good news? Enabling legislation has to be enacted in each >country to carry out the terms of the Wassenaar agreement. Raising a hue >and cry with legislators over this latest invasion of privacy should >have a positive effect. > >In the meantime, Mr. "Information Superhighway" Al Gore is poised for a >presidential run, so he can continue to ignore privacy concerns and bend >over for the Big Brother agencies of the national security >establishment. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Related Links > >The End of Ordinary Money: Part 1 >The End of Ordinary Money: Part 2 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Appendix A: Commerce Dept. Press Release > > >UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE NEWS > >International Trade Administration > >Washington, DC > >For Immediate Release >Tuesday, December 3, 1998 > >Contact: Maria Harris Tildon > (202)482-3809 > Sue Hofer > (202)482-2721 > >P R E S S S T A T E M E N T > >U.S. Applauds Agreement on Encryption in International Export >Control Regime > >Vienna, Austria -- The United States welcomed the decision taken >Thursday in Vienna by the 33 members of the Wassenaar Arrangement >to modernize and improve multilateral encryption export controls. >Ambassador David Aaron, the President's Special Envoy for Cryptology, >said that "the international agreement reached here goes a long way >toward leveling the playing field for exporters and promoting >electornic commerce. It provides countries with a stronger >regulatory framework to protect national security and public safety." > >The agreement caps a two year effort by the United States, to update >international encryption export controls and to balance commercial >and privacy interests with national security and public safety >concerns. Thursday's agreement simplifies and streamlines controls >on many encryption items and eliminates multilateral reporting >requirements. Specific improvements to multilateral encryption >controls include removing controls on all encryption products at >or below 56 bit and certain consumer entertainment TV systems, such >as DVD products, and on cordless telephone systems designed for >home or office use. > >Wassenaar members also agreed to extend controls to mass-market >encryption above 64 bits, thus closing a significant loophole in >multilateral encryption controls. This gives Wassenaar member >governments the legal authority to license many mass market >encryption software exports which were previously not covered by >multilateral controls and enables governments to review the >dissemination of the strongest encryption products that might >fall into the hands of rogue end users. The new controls also >extend liberalized mass-market hardware below 64 bits. Until >today, only mass-market software products enjoyed this >liberalized treatment. > >"The decisions taken here in Vienna reinforce the Administration's >efforts to promote a balanced encryption policy," Aaron confirmed. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Appendix B: Reuters News Release > > >Thursday, 3 December 1998 12:57:40 > >U.S. claims success in curbing encryption trade > >Aaron Pressman, Reuters, Washington newsroom, 202-898-8312 > >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Clinton administration officials >Thursday said they had persuaded other leading countries to >impose strict new export controls on computer >data-scrambling products under the guise of arms control. > >At a meeting Thursday in Vienna, the 33 nations that have >signed the Wassenaar Arrangement limiting arms exports -- >including Japan, Germany and Britain -- agreed to impose >controls on the most powerful data-scrambling technologies, >including for the first time mass-market software, U.S. >special envoy for cryptography David Aaron told Reuters. > >The United States, which restricts exports of a wide range of >data-scrambling products and software -- also known as >encryption -- has long sought without success to persuade >other countries to impose similar restrictions. > >``We think this is very important in terms of bringing a level >playing field for our exporters,'' Aaron said. > >Leading U.S. high-technology companies, including Microsoft >Corp. and Intel Corp., have complained that the lack of >restrictions in other countries hampered their ability to >compete abroad. The industry has sought to have U.S. >restrictions relaxed or repealed, but has not asked for tighter >controls in other countries. > >Privacy advocates have also staunchly opposed U.S. export >controls on encryption, arguing that data-scrambling >technologies provided a crucial means of protecting privacy in >the digital age. > >``It's ironic, but the U.S. government is leading the charge >internationally to restrict personal privacy and individual >liberty around the world,'' said Alan Davidson, staff counsel at >the Center for Democracy and Technology, a Washington-based >advocacy group. > >Special envoy Aaron said the Wassenaar countries agreed to >continue export controls on powerful encryption products in >general but decided to end an exemption for widely available >software containing such capabilities. > >``They plugged a loophole,'' Aaron said. > >The new policy also reduced reporting and paperwork >requirements and specifically excluded from export controls >products that used encryption to protect intellectual property >-- such as movies or recordings sent over the Internet -- from >illegal copying, Aaron said. > >Encryption uses mathematical formulas to scramble >information and render it unreadable without a password or >software ``key.'' One important measure of the strength of the >encryption is the length of the software key, measured in bits, >the ones and zeros that make up the smallest unit of computer >data. > >With the increasing speed and falling prices of computers, >data encrypted with a key 40 bits long that was considered >highly secure several years ago can now be cracked in a few >hours. Cutting-edge electronic commerce and communications >programs typically use 128-bit or longer keys. > >Under Thursday's agreement, Wassenaar countries would >restrict exports of general encryption products using more >than 56-bit keys and mass-market products with keys more >than 64 bits long, Aaron said. > >Each country must now draft its own rules to implement the >agreement. > >-30- > >from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol. 2, No. 41, Dec. 7, 1998 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Laissez Faire City Times is a private newspaper. 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libertarians advocate suing govt
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Subject: Release: Sue the Government? Date: Tue, 08 Dec 98 01:02:13 PST From: announce(a)lp.org To: announce(a)lp.org (Libertarian Party announcements) - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ======================================= NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 ======================================= For release: December 8, 1998 ======================================= For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: 76214.3676(a)Compuserve.com ======================================= A radical idea: Why can't people sue politicians for their deadly programs? WASHINGTON, DC -- If politicians can sue gun and tobacco companies for damages caused by their products, why can't ordinary Americans sue politicians for the destruction caused by their products: Government programs? "Government programs -- such as wars, exploding automotive air bags, and grisly radiation experiments -- have killed and maimed tens of thousands of Americans over the years," said Steve Dasbach, national director of the Libertarian Party. "Americans shouldn't tolerate a double standard of justice, one for the politicians and one for the people. It's time to start holding the government accountable." What started Libertarians thinking in this direction? The fact that 41 state governments are about to divvy up a $40 billion settlement against tobacco companies, said Dasbach -- and the fact that several big-city mayors are deciding whether to join New Orleans in its lawsuit against gun manufacturers. With those legal actions serving as an inspiration, he said, why not prosecute the government for: * War deaths: "Recent military actions totally unrelated to U.S. national security -- like those in the Persian Gulf, Lebanon, Panama, and Somalia -- have claimed hundreds of American lives," Dasbach said. "If gun company executives can be held liable when criminals use guns irresponsibly, why not hold presidents and Congressmen liable when they use American troops irresponsibly?" * Cancer deaths: "The federal government admitted last year that Cold War nuclear tests exposed 230,000 Americans to high levels of radioactive iodine, and may cause 75,000 people to develop fatal thyroid cancer," Dasbach said. "If it's fair to force tobacco companies to pay for smoking-related illnesses, it's fair to force the government to pay for legislation-related illnesses -- like thyroid cancer." * Air-bag deaths: "According to the federal government, 49 children have been killed by government-mandated air bags," Dasbach said. "Their grieving parents ought to file wrongful-death suits against the Congressmen who demanded this law and the Transportation Department bureaucrats who wrote it." * Alcohol-related deaths: "Eighteen state governments control the liquor stores that operate within their borders," Dasbach said. "So why aren't those state politicians and bureaucrats sued for the cost of every alcohol-related car crash?" * Deaths caused by gun-control laws: "According to a landmark study last year by criminologists John R. Lott and David B. Mustard, the refusal of 24 state governments to pass concealed-carry laws caused an additional 1,414 murders, 4,177 rapes, and 60,363 aggravated assaults in 1992 alone," Dasbach said. "Residents of these states ought to file an immediate injunction to prevent these victim-disarmament laws from causing more innocent blood to be shed." * Deaths caused by criminals on parole: "According to Department of Justice figures, murderers are freed from prison an average of 11.6 years before their full sentence expires; armed robbers are sprung 5 years early; and rapists are back on the streets 5.9 years early," Dasbach said. "The politicians who handed these murderers, robbers, and rapists get-out-of-jail-early cards -- usually so they could fill the jails with people convicted of victimless crimes -- ought to be charged as an accessory to every crime these violent thugs commit." * Gambling-related suicides: "Heavily advertised state-sponsored lotteries siphon billions of dollars a year from America's poor, and are directly responsible for uncountable numbers of gambling-related bankruptcies, suicides, and broken homes," Dasbach said. "Since politicians addicted to taxes are harming vulnerable Americans addicted to gambling, shouldn't the state officials who run these destructive lotteries be held personally responsible?" But Libertarians aren't holding their breath waiting for the government to be brought to justice, Dasbach admitted. "Courts have consistently ruled that government is protected from prosecution by the legal doctrine of sovereign immunity," he said. 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spy cameras
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:18:29 -0500 From: Dan S <dan(a)SOUTHEAST.NET> Subject: [CTRL] Smart spy cameras on the way To: CTRL(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM -Caveat Lector- >From : http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001036222020742&rtmo=VqqqD8sK&atmo=kkkk… - - Smart spy cameras on the way By Patrick Hook POLICE scientists are close to a major breakthrough that will allow CCTV cameras to "recognise" criminal activity. Using leading-edge neural and pattern recognition technologies, developed for space and defence applications, scientists are confident that it will shortly be possible to police whole areas of the country automatically and alert the authorities to criminal activity. Speaking at a recent London conference organised by the research and development group SIRA, Dr Mike Taylor, head of technology operations at Scotland Yard, said the main barrier to the development of such a system was the quality of the images that were generally produced by existing CCTV equipment.""It is perfectly feasible to develop software which can distinguish certain actions, but the quality of image capture means that it is often difficult to see exactly what is going on," he said. "The quality is, it seems, in direct proportion to the amount of effort that users are prepared to invest in such systems. Since its introduction more than 20 years ago, the need for such technology has increased, and intelligent sensory information processing and information fusing is going to play a very key part in crime management. The next step is to add other sensory devises such as microphones to pick up the sound of breaking glass and sensors that can detect the smell of particular substances and trigger an appropriate response." The work is part of a research programme into an area of security that has been identified by the government's Foresight Challenge as a priority for further study. Drawn from a range of organisations, including the police, the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency and the Home Office, the work of the team is being partly funded by Brussels. Most of the research is centred on the fusing of information from several sources to present a more accurate report of what the CCTV camera has seen. "The additional cost of a microphone or other sensor is not likely to be great," said Taylor, "and should make a significant difference to the ability of the police to detect criminal activity." Not everyone is enthusiastic, however. John Wadham, director of Liberty, said: "It's difficult to see how this kind of technology would work accurately in practice. It could result in officers' time being wasted investigating incidents - and indeed individuals - which turn out to be entirely innocent. I do wonder whether we have enough surveillance already. Surveillance technology is better at protecting property than people and is still not adequately regulated to protect privacy." - -- dan(a)southeast.net DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM Om ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: Wei Dei's "b-money" protocol
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

x(a)x.com asks about Wei Dei's b-money proposal: >there must be something here that I'm missing. At the core of this >protocol seems to be the establishment not of crypto anarchy but of a >crypto elite. in this scheme only the processors of computing power have >economic power. Now I realize that our current economic system is based on >economic power being invested in a closed community of powerful elites, and >is by no means egalitarian, but this looks to be like simply substituting >one group of "haves" for a different group of "haves" > >I have to admit not being familiar with the Orthodoxy of crypto anarchy, >but if the premise is a centerless self organizing system of free agents >this protocol seems to miss the mark. or what is it that I am missing here? The description is intended to show how money is transferred, and how it is created. These are technically difficult issues when dealing with electronic money, and that is what the proposal addresses. It is not anticipated that most people will make money by using their computing power. That feature is only used when the money supply needs to expand, because of increased economic activity. Instead, people will generally get money the same way they do today: someone will give it to them, either as a gift or as payment. You are free to give your money to whomever you want to, and you are free to offer your goods and services in exchange for money. Such exchanges of money should be much greater in volume than the amount of new money which is created by burning computer cycles.

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Reinsch On Crypto/Wassenaar
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt from a speech by BXA's William Reinsch on December 7, 1998, at the Practising Law Institute conference "Coping with U.S. Export Controls." Note final paragraph about detailed crypto session today -- no report on that yet. Full speech: http://jya.com/war120798-2.htm Also by him yesterday on crypto: http://jya.com/war120798.htm [Begin excerpt] Encryption continues to be a hotly debated issue. As I stated last year, the U.S. continues to support a balanced approach to encryption policy which considers privacy and commercial interests as well as protecting law enforcement and national security interests. Furthermore, we also remain committed to promoting the growth of global electronic commerce through secure financial and business communications. Our position has always been to seek industry-led, market-driven solutions to achieve a balanced approach. What has changed is the direction where technology and the market place are taking us. Key recovery technology remains a very important part of our policy; however, over the past two years, we have recognized that key recovery is not a solution for all problems. That recognition, brought about in part as a result of our ongoing dialogue with industry, has helped us also focus on recoverable technologies that can enable law enforcement to continue its authorized activities. As a result, on September 16, Vice President Gore unveiled a policy update, which will not end the debate, but which does include steps to further streamline exports of key recovery products and other recoverable products which allow law enforcement, under proper legal authority, recovery of plain text. The update also provides for 1) the export of 56 bit DES worldwide to any end user under a license exception; 2) exports of strong encryption to U.S. companies and their subsidiaries under a license exception; 3) exports of strong encryption to the insurance and medical sectors in 45 countries under a license exception; and 4) exports of strong encryption to secure on-line transactions between on-line merchants and their customers in 45 countries under a license exception. This is consistent with our earlier announcement relating to financial institutions. This is an evolutionary process and we intend to continue our dialogue. We must continue to adapt to changes, and we will review our policies again within the year to determine whether further change is necessary. We intend to publish regulations implementing the Vice President's announcement this month. With respect to developing a common international approach to encryption policy, Ambassador David Aaron, our special envoy on cryptography, is working with other countries to ensure that our policies are compatible. He has found that most major producing countries have public safety and national security concerns similar to ours and are interested in developing a harmonized international approach regarding compatible infrastructures for electronic commerce and for a key management infrastructure. At last week's Wassenaar Arrangement plenary session, the participating states approved a number of changes to modernize and improve multilateral encryption export controls. These changes removed controls on products below 56 bits and on certain consumer entertainment systems, such as DVD products, and on cordless phone systems designed for home or office use. Most important, participating states agreed to extend controls to mass-market encryption exports above 64 bits, thus closing a significant loophole. This will enable governments to review the dissemination of the strongest encryption products that otherwise might fall into the hands of rogue end users. For those of you deeply interested in the details of our encryption policy, we have a specific session devoted to it tomorrow. [End excerpt]

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[CTRL] Feds And FDIC To Monitor All Your Personal Financial Activities
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: DrErebus(a)AOL.COM Subject: [CTRL] Feds And FDIC To Monitor All Your Personal Financial Activities Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 10:11:25 EST To: CTRL(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM -Caveat Lector- Feds And FDIC To Monitor All Your Personal Financial Activities 12-1-98 The following is direct quote from the first page of FDIC document (6174-01) (12 CFR Part 326) Notice of proposed rulemaking. "SUMMARY: The FDIC is proposing to issue a regulation requiring insured nonmember banks to adopt and maintain "Know Your Customer" programs. As proposed, the regulation would require each nonmember bank to develop a program designed to determine the identity of its customers; determine its customers' sources of funds; determine the normal and expected transactions of its customers; monitor account activity for transactions that are inconsistent with those normal and expected transactions; and report any transactions of its customers that are determined to be suspicious, in accordance with the FDIC's existing suspicious activity reporting regulation. ---" The things to be very concerned about in this case are the PROFILE PARAMETERS that in turn define the various limits that when exceed, qualify as an exception to the norm and thus must be reported to another federal agency, as a suspicious transaction. There is virtually no limit to the number or type of profile parameters that can be established. For example, is the customer an 8 foot tall white male weighing in excess of 400 pounds or is the customer a four foot tall black female weighing less than 90 pounds. The question or questions (and there are many questions) then becomes, who will be responsible for establishing, defining and controlling the limitless number of possible profile parameters? Who will be responsible for adding, changing and deleting established profile parameters? Who will be responsible for insuring that this awesome and massive capability will not be misused and abused by the various departments of the Federal Government. In other words, is the 8 foot tall white male an exception to the norm or is the 4 foot tall black female the exception or, are both the upper limit and the lower limit considered as an exception to the norm. How about all those in between? As noted in the quoted SUMMARY of the document identified above, the "key operative statements" are as follows; 1. Identify its customers. 2. Determine its customers' source of funds. 3. Determine the normal and expected transactions of its customers. 4. Monitor account activity for transactions that are inconsistent with those normal and expected transactions. 5. Report any transactions of its customers that are determined to be suspicious ---. Before we briefly examine the five individual requirements noted above, and so that you will understand where"I" am coming from, please be aware of the fact that, in addition to being a Baptist Preacher, I have been a Data Processing Systems Analyst for some 48+ years. At least half of that time was spent working for the Federal Government, designing and installing total Data Processing Facilities, from the Presidents Battle Staff, to the Congress, to the Department of defense, to the local Church name and address data base. I have written and taught several college courses: (a) Management of Data Processing Facilities and (b) Systems Analysis. One of the first things that I always tell the new students in my Systems Analysis class is "In the field of electronic data processing, your only limitation is you own imagination. If you can rationalize it in your mind, 'electronic' data processing can do it." Now, given that background and qualifications let me tell you, in no uncertain terms, -- I know exactly what the Federal Government is up to. I know exactly what information they are looking for; I know exactly how to get that information and I know exactly how they plan to eventually use that information. Requirement # 1: Identify its customers. I have no problem with this requirement so long as that identifying information is limited to name, mailing address and an account number generated by the "local" financial institution and assigned to a particular account to provide unique identification, but absolutely nothing more. Requirement # 2: Determine its customers' source of funds. This I have a BIG problem with. Even though the government would like for you to believe that this requirement is related to identifying "possible" illegal money laundering by drug traffickers, that is not the only reason they want to know the source of your finances. Remember now, the ultimate objective of the vast majority of government regulations and programs are directed at controlling the "individual." This item required that you advise the bank of all the sources that you will be receiving money from that you will be depositing in this particular account. We will expand this item in more detail below. Requirement # 3. Determine the normal and expected transactions of its customers. For purposed of this discussion we will consider only four primary parameters related to deposits and withdrawals against this particular account. First: When you established a new checking account you will be required to identify the number of deposits you expect to make each month and the average amount of each deposit. For example (a) military retirement pay = $2,000.00, (b) Social Security Income = $400.00, (c) Rent from income property = $750.00, (d) Interest from stocks & bonds = $ 300.00, and so on. Second: You will be required to identify the number of withdrawals you expect to make each month from this account and the estimated amount of each withdrawal. For example; (a) Mortgage payment=$ 800.00, (b) Car Payment = $250.00, (c) College tuition = $ 1,000.00). Once the average number of deposits and the average amount of each deposit has been determined and the average number of withdrawals and the average amount of each withdrawal has been established, it will be very easy to identify all transactions, in and out, that exceed the established norms for this particular account. For example should you find a paper bag on the side of the highway containing 10,000 well used one dollar bills, or Aunt Sue passed away and left you 10,000 well used one dollar bills and you deposited that windfall in your checking or savings account, that would immediately be detected as exceeding the established norms for your account. Requirement # 4. Monitor account activity for transactions that are inconsistent with those normal and expected transactions. This requirement establishes the requirement that each financial institution establish a procedure to monitor your financial accounts on a regular basis for any transactions that exceed the established norms as illustrated above. Requirement # 5. Report any transactions of its customers that are determined to be suspicious ---. This requirement requires that all financial institutions immediately report any and all suspicious transactions detected as a result of deposits or withdrawals that exceed the established norms for your account. As I was reviewing the aforementioned FDIC document, as quoted above, I called a long time friend of mine who is vice president of a local bank that I do business with. I ask my vice president friend to identify the government agency(s) to which he would report such a suspicious transaction. His response was, the IRS and the FBI, at the national level. My friends, as a long time ADP/EDP Systems Analyst I want you to pay particular attention to the following. Whenever a good and successful Information (Data) Processing Systems Analyst designs a large scale information processing system, such as what we have been talking about above, he will ALWAYS allow for future expansion of "existing" applications and processing capabilities and his design work will also allow for "additional" applications and processing capabilities to be added with a minimum of additional effort and cost. Based on my 48+ plus years in the business, let me tell you what you can expect in the very near future if the proposed "rulemaking" provisions as defined in the FDIC document identified above are allowed to be implemented. Please, read the following very carefully because it lays out the route our government is taking toward a cashless society as required by the design of a one world government under the United Nations. 1. PRESENTLY ALL recipients of military retirement pay MUST have a bank account into which their monthly retirement pay is electronically transferred. The government will no longer pay individual retirees directly, or send their retirement pay to a home address. This is part of an over all plan to extended more absolute control over the individual. It has absolutely nothing to do with economy as the government would have you to believe. 2. In the very near future look for legislation that will "require" ALL government employees, federal, state and local, to have a bank account into which their salary will also be electronically transferred, just like the retired military. In as much as most government employees already have the direct deposit option available, it requires only vary simple legislation to complete this phase of the plan. 3. Next you will see legislation that will outlaw the direct payment of all wages or salaries to any individual, by an employer. All employees who work for a wage or salary, will also be required to have a bank account into which the employer will be required to direct deposit their salary. And once again the legislation necessary to accomplish phase of the plan is very simple and easy to implement, simply because most business would welcome the reduced payroll cost. The governments objective here is to eventually make the local financial institution the only source of legal tender for the individual. At this point and for the purpose of this paper, legal tender is defined as dollars, debit cards or other credit cards. When objectives 2 & 3 above have been fully accomplished, it will then be a very simple matter to implement the rest of the plan. Let me explain it this way. The total plan equates to $1.00 (One dollar) When steps 2 & 3 have been fully implemented, as step 1 has already been accomplished, that will equate to $ .95 cents of that $1.00. The rest of the plan equates to only 5 cents out of that one dollar. And just what is the rest of the plan? It's very simple. After steps 1, 2 and 3 as noted above have been fully implemented, the only thing left to do then would be to outlaw all cash transactions and require all transactions now involving cash, be accomplished through the use of checks or smart cards followed by the eventual elimination of the checks. At that point the federal government can then trace, track AND CONTROL ALL TRANSACTIONS, simply because all transactions will then be processed by massive computer systems controlled by the federal government. Given the above accomplishments and current electronic capabilities, the ability to exercise absolute control over "individuals" provided by the additional five cents noted above are absolutely mind boggling. There are many, many more reasons that all Americans should and must oppose implementation of the five (5) requirements identified above. There are TWO things that every American should do, immediately. First: All Americans should send a letter to the FDIC expressing their STRONG objection and opposition to the plan to PROFILE individual bank accounts for what ever purpose. The FDIC will be accepting public comments until December 27. Send your comments to: Robert E. Feldman, Executive Secretary Attention: Comments/OES, FDIC 550 17th Street, NW Washington, DC 20429 --- Spectre <temporal(a)earthlink.net 12-3-98 Hi Jeff: Found this site about the new FDIC "Know your Customer" regulations: http://www.bankinfo.com/compliance/newkyc.html Seems to me the laws and regulations can be interpreted to mean a lot and I wouldn't completely discount the article you posted on your web page as a complete hoax, if you read the article.: PARTS from that page below: " By requiring banking organizations to determine the true identity of their customers, as well as to obtain knowledge regarding the legitimate activities of their customers, the proposed regulations will reduce the likelihood that banking organizations will become unwitting participants in illicit activities conducted or attempted by their customers." "While it is impossible to identify every transaction at a financial institution that is potentially illegal or is being conducted to assist criminals in the movement of illegally derived funds, it is fundamental for safe and sound operations that financial institutions take every reasonable measure to identify their customers, understand the legitimate transactions to be conducted by those customers and, consequently, identify those transactions conducted by their customers that are unusual or suspicious in nature. By identifying and, when appropriate, reporting such transactions, in accordance with existing suspicious activity reporting requirements, financial institutions are protecting their integrity and are assisting the efforts of the bank regulatory agencies and law enforcement authorities to thwart illicit activities at financial institutions." "The Board has long advocated that one of the most effective means by which a financial institution can both protect itself from engaging in transactions designed to facilitate illicit activities and ensure compliance with applicable suspicious activity reporting requirements is for the institution to have adequate "Know Your Customer" policies and procedures" "In the Board's view, a financial institution should take the necessary and reasonable steps to determine the true identity of its customers, their sources of funds, and their normal and expected transactions and to identify unusual or suspicious activities". ------ Please excuse my distress, but often times the best-intentioned people are quick to jump and call something a "Hoax," which unfortunately misleads people, when just the opposite is true. Being very familiar with legal research, it was simple for me to determine if the the e-mail sent to you by Mr. Gene Ingram [gene(a)cup.hp.com] declaring the post the "Feds and FDIC to Monitor All Your Personal Financial Activities" a hoax; and to see if Mr. Ingram was presumptively correct in his analysis. The most impmrtant point you should know it was stated in the beginning of the article in re the "Feds and FDIC" that this was a *proposed rule* being submitted by the FDIC "...requiring insured nonmember banks to adopt and maintain "Know Your Customer" programs." ALL proposed rules submitted by any federal agency must first be sent to the Federal Register for publication under the *notice* rules. >From the wording of this "Sunshing Act Meeting" chaired by the Board of Governors for the Federal Reserve System, the FDIC is "only following orders." Please find below a replica of the *notice*: ________________________________________________________________ [Federal Register: September 28, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 187)] [Notices] [Page 51579] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [http://www.wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr28se98-60] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Sunshine Act Meeting Agency Holding the Meeting: Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. Time and Date: 10:00 a.m., Thursday, October 1, 1998. Place: Marriner S. Eccles Federal Reserve Board Building, C Street entrance between 20th and 2lst Streets, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20553. Status: Open. Matters to be Considered: Summary Agenda: Because of its routine nature, no discussion of the following item is anticipated. This matter will be voted on without discussion unless a member of the Board requests that the item be moved to the discussion agenda. 1. Publication for comment of proposed amendments to Regulation H (Membership of State Banking Institutions in the Federal Reserve Qystem), Regulation K (International Banking Operations), and Regulation Y (Bank Holding Companies and Change in Bank Control) to require domestic and foreign banking organizations to develop and maintain ``Know Your Customer'' programs. 2. Any items carried forward from a previously announced meeting. Discussion Agenda: None. No Discussion Items Are Scheduled For This Meeting. Note: If an item is moved from the Summary Agenda to the Discussion Agenda, discussion of the item will be recorded. Cassettgs will then be available for listening in the Board's Freedom of Information Office, and copies can be ordered for $6 per cassette by calling 202-452-3684 or by writing to: Freedom of Information Office, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, Washington, D.C. 20551. Contact Person for More Information: Lynn S. Fox, Assistant to the Board; 202-452-3204. Supplementary Information: You may call 202-452-3006 for a recorded announcement of this meeting; or you may contact the Board's Web site at http://www.federalreserve.gov for an electronic announcement. (The Web site also includes procedural and other information about the open meeting.) Dated: September 24, 1998. Robert deV. Frierson, Associate Secretary of the Board. [FR Doc. 98-25960 Filed 9-24-98; 11:19 am] BILLING CODE 6210-01-P ___________________________________________________________ The rule[s] will not be published in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) until the proposed rule[s] is finalized. These rule changes will be to Regulations H, K and Y pertaining to Banking administration procedures. The proposed changes *may* be all inclusive within 12 CFR 326 - I wouldn't begin to guess until the final rules are drafted. Perhaps this is the reason why Mr. Ingram was unable to find what he was looking for. In the interim, I suggest caution, research and a thoroughly checking your sources before labeling anything a *Hoax* or stating something as fact if you don't know first hand or from personal experience. If anything, the obvious fact this determination was dictated by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System ...well, I'll leave that to your readers to decide the relevancy or merit of the Board's decree. If you would like additional information, please feel free to contact me. Lynn Shaffer fadaar(a)psn.net DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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Survey Says Citizens Feel 'Threatened' By Government
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A survey has suggested that up to half a million American citizens may have been upset by something they have heard about the government. The USG poll shows that one in five of nearly 4,000 citizens between the ages of six and 16 interviewed for the survey between September and October this year were "uncomfortable" with some content heard about the government. In the US, 60 million citizens are estimated to know who Clinton actually is - roughly a third of all citizens between 18 and 60. Of those who have had negative experiences with the government, the largest proportion - 40% - has seen something "unconstitutional." 'Not surprised' One in seven said they had encountered unconstitutional actions that "freightened them", while 25% saw actions that they thought "would get them into jail." USG Associate Shill Rob Lawson described the numbers as a "significant minority". The citizen's charity DNC Welfare for Deadbeats suggested the survey strengthened calls for government regulation to protect the eyes of citizens. Libertarian spokesman John Carr said: "I regret to say I'm not surprised by this survey's findings, it's what we have been saying for some time." Government nannies "Big Brothers need to know their citizens are looking for pro-USG information in safety and security. At the moment, they have no way of knowing that at all." DNC Welfare for Deadbeats, which steals from the citizens to give to those who are multiplying like rabbits with no means to provide for their offspring, and advises the government to spend more money and to legislate special privlidges for some citizens who are "disadvantaged," backs the introduction of "Big Brothers" - laws which filter out content unsuitable for citizens. The survey, called TLA.net, was paid for by Microsoft, the NOW, NAI and KRAP in syndicate. The Ministry of Truth and Propoganda's forthcoming review on Internet regulation is expected to be published before Christmas. [from news.propoganda.us]

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Re: Power Outage in San Fransisco/bay area
by FitugMix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sounds to me like a practice-run for Y2K. Max Inux wrote: > > Well, we are going on hour 4 now, most of the power is back. One group of > 2-4 employees caused it they say. This was admitted 3 hours later, and > then they knew 15 minutes after it happens.. typical. They expect to be > back on by this afternoon > > On the Shell Building at 8:30AM > > "Building closed, no power. Power will not be restored for 6-8 hours." > > I wonder how they knew. The estimate is probably about right too, wierd. > > The mission village sub-station has been re-oppened, and most peoples > power is now being revived. Funny how 2-4 people not following procedure > were able to shut down 4 substations. Looks like PG&E have lots of work > ahead to find out the cause/effect of this type action. > > Max > -- Max Inux <maxinux(a)openpgp.net> New DH and RSA keys Generated. > Kinky Sex makes the world go round > If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto

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German government press release on Wassenaar
by ulf＠fitug.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Press release from the Ministry of Economy http://www.bmwi.de/presse/1998/1208prm2.html, my translation: Export control for encryption technology loosened No "key recovery" for cryptographic products At their plenary meeting on December 2nd and 3rd 1998 the 33 treaty states of the Wassenaar Arrangement have decided to revise the export control for encryption technologies (cryptographic products). Export control has been loosened, and the embodiment of crypto restrictions has been hindered. Thus there will be no export ban for encryption products in the future. The previously comprehensive control characterized by a large number of sectoral exceptions has been replaced by a positively formulated list text. In future all kinds of products - hardware and software are treated in the same way - are only subject to export control starting at a key length of 56 bits. Mass market products that fulfill certain requirements are subject to export control only up from a key length of 64 bits. For the present the restriction to 64 bits is valid for two years, it must then be renewed unanimously or it will be cancelled. In addition, methods such as digital signatures and authentication as well as certain product groups such as wireless phones and pay TV devices are completely exempted from export control. The regulation concerning freely available products (public domain) has remained unchanged. Certain states that had initially demanded special treatment for "key recovery" products have not have been unsuccessful. Thus the export of encryption technology will remain possible without depositing keys with government agencies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From an AP news report, my translation [The Green Party is part of the new German government, but the Ministry of Economy is led by the Social Democrats]: Green Party member of parliament Hans-Christian Ströbele critisized that the government gave in to US pressure for stronger control on encryption. The agreement would affect the obvious need of computer users to protect their business and private communication from unauthorized access. Also the business opportunities of German producers of powerful encryption software would be reduced in a serious way. Thus when implementing the agreement in national law, negative effects must be limited as much as possible.

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German government press release on Wassenaar (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: German government press release on Wassenaar > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:04:18 +0100 (+0100) > From: ulf(a)fitug.de (Ulf =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) > authentication as well as certain product groups such as wireless > phones and pay TV devices are completely exempted from export > control. The regulation concerning freely available products (public > domain) has remained unchanged. Is there any mention of wireless networking devices? ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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News on Wassenaar anyone?
by Jan Garefelt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have information on the new Wassenaar arrangement, or information on when official information will be available? I'm only interested in the crypto parts, and I have already read the Aaron/Reuter story found on http://www.crypto.com/reuters/show.cgi?article=912708583 Thanks /Jan Garefelt

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote: > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:18:29 -0500 > From: Dan S <dan(a)SOUTHEAST.NET> > Subject: [CTRL] Smart spy cameras on the way > To: CTRL(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM > > -Caveat Lector- > > >From : > http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001036222020742&rtmo=VqqqD8sK&atmo=kkkk… > - - > Smart spy cameras on the way > > ... > "The quality is, it seems, in direct proportion to the amount of effort > that users are prepared to invest in such systems. Since its > introduction more than 20 years ago, the need for such technology has > increased, and intelligent sensory information processing and > information fusing is going to play a very key part in crime management. > The next step is to add other sensory devises such as microphones to > pick up the sound of breaking glass and sensors that can detect the > smell of particular substances and trigger an appropriate response." > ... [much deleted] I think we read a message not so long ago from a 'punk who spotted the prototype of these 'bomb-sniffing cameras' along a California highway, no? #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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Re: Wei Dei's "b-money" protocol
by Dave Birch 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wei Dai said >However if it did become mainstream I think there are some >interesting macroeconomic questions here. Will prices really be stable as >they're designed to be? Will there be business cycles? What is the optimum >inflation/deflation rate? Perhaps a solution is to fix not on a basket of commodities, or equities, but on provision of future service (much like Frequent Flier miles). Suppose the money is demoninated in Mb of web hosting (I've no idea whether this would be a good choice as I just made it up). Then you know you'll get what you want in terms of service, irrespective of the inflation/deflation. Sure, if web space inflates against the dollar then that's a problem (for people with dollars). But suppose you could accumulate the things that you actually want rather than specie (as a proxy)? Consider this as a thought experiment. Microsoft issue m$, each m$ being worth 1 minute of Microsoft technical support. People who need Microsoft technical support would buy m$ (big companies would know roughly how much they might need) whereas people who don't need or want it would sell m$. Instead of storing up dollars, the value of which might fluctuate (especially since Microsoft could change the price of technical support whenever they want), companies now have a firm fix. Just an idea. Regards, Dave Birch. === mailto:daveb@hyperion.co.uk ===== http://www.hyperion.co.uk/ ===

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Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Ber
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think Arnold Reinhold has the right idea, 100% - only post plain-English versions of algorithms. To paraphrase: "Banning plain-English instructions for building your own crypto software will require the starkest abridgement of the First Amendment." Force their hand. Make them spell it out in the harshest black and white. It is the only way to get the clueless sheeple to figure out what it really going on. Jim Choate is also right. Empower _everyone_ to write their own code, regardless of mathematical skill. Spell it out so simply that people with access to only BASIC can do it in their living room while watching TV. Yeah, so we appeal to "the lowest common denomiator." Face it, that's 95% of the population, and we have to get them on our side. Jim Choate wrote: > > Forwarded message: > > > Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:41:33 -0500 > > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Ber > > > Yes, Gilmore's proposal was to mirror the contents; URLs threaten > > no reg-makers. > > > > Yep, mirrors of everything would be very large. We've heard already > > that folks would like help in knowing what to mirror if they can't do > > large archives, or can't easily decide which are most important. > > [text deleted] > > > What would help is a list from experts on what are the most gov-enraging > > programs. We'd like to offer a few of those on jya.com, to test BXA's up-and- > > running crypto-enforcement program, maybe get some jail and trial pleasure, > > it's been too quiet on Bernstein, Junger, Karn, et al, a deliberate gov-stall, > > awaiting Wassenaar. > > Besides enraging, it should also include the necessary documents, > monographs, libraries, etc. to empower others to write the code within their > own legal boundaries. > > If somebody makes the effort to compile such a list I'd like to personaly > request they include this in addition to finished product. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me > in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, > it is: bullying > Howard Zinn > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Web Hosting Providers in Many Countries? For crypto archives.
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Gilmore has proposed setting up crypto archives in many countries to avoid Wassenaar restriction problems. Does anybody have a good source for information on web hosting providers or other ISPs in a variety of countries around the world? Shell accounts are nicer, because it's easier to create servers that check where the request is coming from, for countries that insist you only provide access to their citizens but still allow you to do that on a web site. The US doesn't appear to have strictly defined legal requirements for such sites (YET) and places like MIT have gotten quite flexible about it. Also, are there any good sources of relatively private VISA credit cards, preferably outside the US, that can be used to rent computer accounts with? There are other crypto distribution methods that, while slower, are still legal from the US - censoring printed books embarasses them a bit still, though some other countries don't have the same squeamishness even though they may be less interested in banning the material. Printing PGP source books was annoying, but a week's delay in shipping few-page crypto subroutines isn't that serious, especially if it's in a scanner-friendly format. Any guess how the various countries feel about faxes of source code? And, of course, shipping or even selling source for 40-bit RC4 and 512-bit RSA is pretty simple, even if you don't include the note "WARNING: DO NOT CHANGE THE #define KEYLENGTH TO 128 OR THE #define MODULUSLENGTH TO 2048 AND RECOMPILE" Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Lecture Notes in Computer Science - free online Access
by Nobody 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built BerlinWalls
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text To: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> Cc: cryptography(a)c2.net, John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin Walls Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:36:23 -0500 From: Dan Geer <geer(a)world.std.com> Sender: owner-cryptography(a)c2.net Tradeoff time. ==== Q: Is it better for the providers of crypto resources to alarm/log accesses to their websites or not? I'd strongly argue not; Team Despot will disguise itself and we are surveilled as we speak; Team Legion loses if it creates targets for harvesting. ==== Q: Is coordinated integrity control (code signing) a Good Thing? I'd weakly argue not; The absence of a coordinated signing strategy does not preclude verification so avoiding common-mode fraud, e.g., long-running denial of service attacks on the central signing agent, seems advantageous. Alternative argument; Integrity of crypto code can be signed via quorumed split-key means so that no single actor fraud is effective yet only the minimum quorum need be online at any given time; this has the advantage that a completed split-key signature cannot be attributed to which quorum subset made it yet is verifiable by ordinary client means once complete. Since intermediate (partial signing) results do not leak fragment holder identity, quorum members can indirectly communicate through commonly held dead-drops. ==== Q: Should requestors routinely avoid surveilled identification? I'd argue strongly for: We, Team Legion, must commit to a cell organization with pseudonymity coverage such as through the "Crowds" system; to avoid any one of us being guilty we must all be. ==== Getting the problem statement right for this endeavor is the most important thing we have left to do. If the above sample is misguided, say so. To the extent it is incomplete, fix it. If one of us goes off the air, step into their place. It is time for us to walk the fine line between undue paranoia and a heightened state of awareness. --dan --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think setting up mirror sites of crypto archives across the world is a great idea. However, I also think we need to focus on getting more and more people to use crypto. I would guess that the vast majority of computer users worldwide see no use for encryption in their day-to-day lives -- and even those that do don't also use it. If everybody in the world is using encryption, it is going to be extremely difficult for "democratic" governments to tell them they can't use it any more. Unfortunately, it's easy for governments to blame crypto for terrorism and a host of other crimes, simply because the average citizen doesn't understand the concept of an "electronic envelope".

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Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin Walls (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:59:20 +0100 > From: Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen(a)stud.uni-muenchen.de> > Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin Walls (fwd) > I don't see why you have to pose such severe selection criteria. Because those are the issues that will determine success. > As long as a number of countries don't yet have export regulations, Which doesn't mean they won't hassle the operators with various techniques in order to pursuade them it's a bad idea to continue. > If the 'economies', 'infrastructure' 'religon' and what not of the > countries do not (yet) affect crypto laws, why care about them? If They effect crypto by defintion. > at a later point of time some of these countries do have crypto laws, If they don't have crypto laws it's likely they don't have a lot of other sorts of laws and the social and economic structure those laws imply. This makes it very difficult to operate a archive with any sort of stability or protection. > well, simply close down the archive there and let the sites in the And what about the costs and effects incurred by that person you so glibly throw away? > Much more important is to discuss how to solve the finacial problem There is NO financial problem. It costs hundreds of dollars to purchase the hardware. The connectivity is less than $100 a month in most parts of the world. It simply isn't expensive or economicaly challenging. That ISN'T the problem and should recieve scant attention while these other issues are extant. Bottem line, if you can't afford to put up a box then you're not going to be able to afford to deal with the other issues such activities incur mainly because you're going to be too busy trying to pay your housing and food costs. In that situation you've better things to do with your time then run an archive site. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:33:32 -0500 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin > Walls > ==== > > Q: Is it better for the providers of crypto resources to alarm/log > accesses to their websites or not? > > I'd strongly argue not; > Team Despot will disguise itself and we are surveilled as we speak; > Team Legion loses if it creates targets for harvesting. > > ==== >From a security standpoint it is advised to log access and all resource use for about 4-5 days so you can get a sample big enough to look for under_the_radar_hacking. On the flip side you don't want to keep them longer than that because they could be used in an incriminating manner, whether an actual criminal act occured or not. I use the default buffer time (4 days) for my mail package as my ttl value. Once that time is past the files are bye bye. If the security of the site is compromised then it's pretty worthless as an archive. > Q: Is coordinated integrity control (code signing) a Good Thing? > > I'd weakly argue not; > Alternative argument; > ==== The code shouldn't be signed by any of the archive sites, they shouldn't put their butts on the line. The code should be signed by the originators of same. This verifies that ALL the archive sites have the same package and not individualy modified ones. The archive sites should provide some sort of hash to verify successful transfers. > Q: Should requestors routinely avoid surveilled identification? > ==== There isn't any way around this one. If the site is up and it's advertised and publicly accessible then expect to be identified. Either the owner of the domain/network resources you're using or your registration to the relevant domain name authorities will provide ample pointers. Of course there is the strategy of registering the domain for a year only and then each year register a new one. Then you could provide bogus address and owner information. This of course won't slow a packet sniffer down for long. Onion and CROWDS won't help here unless you're connected directly to the anonymizer. If you're that close they'll find you by following the wires. > it. If one of us goes off the air, step into > their place. You so glibly throw people away...it's better to fix a system such that there is a legal ramification (ie resistance) for the LEA's applying the pressure; a fight in court. Beside shutting the sites down another primary goal of LEA's is to keep the conflict off the evening news. There is ample evidence of LEA's dropping charges because the group made it known they were going to use their day in court as a platform for espousing their agenda. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Re:
by Mbishop645＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Wassenaar/Crypto News
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A BXA spokesperson said today that the text of the recent Wassenaar agreement had been received yesterday and it is now being prepared for release on the BXA website (www.bxa.doc.gov) maybe by the end of the week but maybe not until next week. She said she expected the US to be the first to publish the doc, after I cited the WA message below from Caspar Bowden. She also said that the Practising Law Institute (www.pli.edu) session on encryption controls yesterday was taped and inquiries should be made to PLI (a continuing legal ed org; ) 1-(800) 260-4PLI. And that Bill Reinsch did not participate in the session, only gave the speech on Dec 7 noted here yesterday: http://jya.com/war120798-2.htm An inquiry to PLI (Betty Gray) has not been returned. >From UK Crypto: From: "Caspar Bowden" <cb(a)fipr.org> To: "Ukcrypto (E-mail)" <ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk> Subject: More from Wassenaar Secretariat Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:19:09 -0000 Message-ID: <000401be2355$07529ec0$dc77e4d4@cpsb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal -----Original Message----- From: Wassenaar Secretariat [mailto:secretariat@wassenaar.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 16:54 To: Caspar Bowden Subject: Re: Attn: Dirk Weicke Mr. Weicke is still away, however, I can assure you that the Secretariat has been recently authorized by all member states to publish the new Lists on the web site. This will be done as soon as possible. Please be patient, we are a very small Secretariat. Glenn Sibbitt Special Advisor WA Secretariat Caspar Bowden wrote: > Dear Mr.Weicke, > > We spoke by telephone on Fri afternoon. > > You mentioned that the text and details of the new agreement would be > published on the Wassenaar website this week. > > I understand that you have been away sick for a few days (my > commiserations), but there have been reports from your colleagues > that there will in fact be no publication on your Website. > > I'd be most grateful if you could just confirm when publication of > details will take place, in particular the "Cryptography Note" detailing > key-length limits, and definitions of categories. > > Kind regards > -- > Caspar Bowden http://www.fipr.org > Director, Foundation for Information Policy Research > Tel: +44(0)171 354 2333 Fax: +44(0)171 827 6534

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Re:
by Joel O'Connor 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

They say education is power abd naybe they were correct. I agree with the fact that more people need to use encryption, the problem (as you stated) is that people do not understand how to use it, or even know it exists. Unfortunate for us, fortunate for big brother. While the only way we can counteract this debate is through empowerment, the question remains, how do you spread the word to up to a million people, enough to get their interest and keep it, enough to take the time to teach them how to use the tools. I work for an IT department and the users I train rank from intelligent to "where the hell did you come from?!" Teaching people who have no want or need is the hardest part, just ask Christians, they know what it's like. Our greatest problems lie within our inability to train and make use of what lies in front of us, if people don't see the need, then why would they? Another point, some people feel that if they have nothing to hide, then why use it. An acquaitance of mine has the same stubborn attitude, what steps do you take to thwart that? That excuse bothers me beyond belief, but it is a common thought that if you need to take the steps to hide something, then it must be wrong. God help us. . . ---Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> wrote: > > I think setting up mirror sites of crypto archives > across the world is a great idea. However, I also > think we need to focus on getting more and more > people to use crypto. I would guess that the vast > majority of computer users worldwide see no use > for encryption in their day-to-day lives -- and > even those that do don't also use it. > > If everybody in the world is using encryption, it > is going to be extremely difficult for "democratic" > governments to tell them they can't use it any more. > > Unfortunately, it's easy for governments to blame > crypto for terrorism and a host of other crimes, > simply because the average citizen doesn't understand > the concept of an "electronic envelope". > > > == Ogre bounces like sonar. . .Peace. Ogre _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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What happened to this NY Times article on STOA and Echelon?
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have any idea what happened to this article on STOA and Echelon? http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/nytimes.htm I cannot seem to find it in the NY Times archives. Is it really from 1998? Could it be from 1997? Anyone been in contact with the author? Ern

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The politics of crypto archives
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:46:37 +0100 > From: Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen(a)stud.uni-muenchen.de> > Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin Walls (fwd) > Let there be a large number of sites. If part of these fail, there > are others that are successful. (Compare evolution.) But two sites don't reproduce to make a 3rd site, some set of sites don't deny environmental resources to others, etc. etc. Your analogy is flawed on many levels. If the sites go down that often what motive would somebody else have if they know they'll face the same sorts of problems and won't have any additional resources to help them face it? Why would you put up a site if you knew that the 14 others before had failed and that nobody would help with your legal fees when you did go down? It's one thing to put your neck on the block for yourself, it's a whole other issue when you start asking other people to do it for your benefit (they obviously don't need an archive since they have the resources already) when you make it clear that you won't reimburse or otherwise recognize their efforts for YOU. > > > If the 'economies', 'infrastructure' 'religon' and what not of the > > > countries do not (yet) affect crypto laws, why care about them? If > > > > They effect crypto by defintion. > > How, for example, can they affects the functioning of an archive, if > you get the right people and machine? Because those machines have to be available and paid for, their utilities need to exist and need to be reliable, the police need to have some sort of legal boundary to cross, and you need some recognized and guaranteed legal recourse for your own self defence. Those are just a couple of the issues involved in running a archive site. Things don't exist in vacuum. You naively take WAY(!!!) too much for granted. I'll tell you what. Just as an experiment put up a CDR node for 6 months and see what it's like. Keep the box up 24 hours a day, pay the electricity, phone lines, domain name, etc. We're talking less than $500 total if you already own a box. Such an experiment is within the reach of just about any person who has sufficient resources (even students) to surf the web. If you don't have the infrastructure to send the email in the clear then crypto won't effect that one whit. And putting up an archive that nobody can get to is not worth the effort either. > > If they don't have crypto laws it's likely they don't have a lot of other > > sorts of laws and the social and economic structure those laws imply. This > > makes it very difficult to operate a archive with any sort of stability or > > protection. > > It is not true that there are more gangsters in the small than in > the powerful nations. What do you mean by stability (which has plenty > of meanings)? Well of course not, the populations aren't comparable. However, it is clear that smaller 3rd world countries have much more stringent regulations or because the instability causes there to be no standards to regulation and lack many of the protections we in the US take for granted. It makes the continued existance of the archive problematic. Putting up an archive on Monday only to have it go down on Tuesday is pyrrhic at best. I use stability in the commen political meaning. The country has a political and social system that is long-lived, has a well defined mechanism for transfer of power (if they even recognize transfer of power), etc. If you're in a situation where some rebels or other forces start lobbing mortar shells into your immediate area then crypto is the least of your worries. Or as in Columbia where a group drove into town, drug people out into the street and shot them in the head. Consider S. Korea. Even though it's a democracy it's illegal to operate a firewall. The closest place S. Koreans can get in many cases to a firewall and network security (for groups outside of S. Korea) is Australia. Now how do you expect to seriously run a crypto site when the military and police have a legal authority to come rummage in your system at will? And can put you in detention if you deny them that access? Those sorts of places are where crypto is needed but clearly can't do the job for themselves. > > And what about the costs and effects incurred by that person you so glibly > > throw away? > > I suppose that running an archive is a voluntary (self-sacrificing) > act of a benovolent person ready to offer his service to the public. > If his site has to close down sometime later, he has to accept his > bad luck. Why should you care so much minutely for him? (And you > say below that the money problem is trivial!) No, it isn't self-sacrifice. It's sacrifice for the users of that archive. Their motives are not self-centered, they're society centered. As users of those archives you OWE them. I would suggest strongly(!) that you spend more time studying ethics and morality. > So it rests to find people who have the time and (that small) money > and energy to run sites and some countries that aren't going to > have strict cryto laws in the near future. THAT, however, is > difficult, I believe. Duh. I wonder why....(well, actualy I don't) ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: No Subject ( camera nonsense )
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I think we read a message not so long ago from a 'punk who > spotted the prototype of these 'bomb-sniffing cameras' along > a California highway, no? > Don't remember the date but when asked to pinpoint the thing so someone else could actually go take a look there was no response from the original poster. I wrote it off as babbling. There is one device above the westbound section of 580 on the Livermore side of the Altamont pass. About the size of a small SpectraPhysics Laser, the surface appears solid - i.e. no visual sensor. My best guess - radar for either speed measurement or traffic density measurement. Chemical sniffer - NOT. Radiation detector - perhaps, but I doubt it. Best bet - traffic analysis. These counties here are always fighting about population growth and the traffic implications. As if one stinking town owns the entire godamned federal interstate. Little, carpetbagging Napoleans everywhere you look. As for neural systems detecting illegal activity - yeah? what? Two people talking? Looking disreputable? Having their hands *appear* to coincide for a second? This "technology", if detected in a public place, should be zapped and the promoters tarred and feathered*. *Superglue or RTV and polyfill may legally be substituted for the traditional materials. m

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Re: (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:26:21 -0800 (PST) > From: "Joel O'Connor" <ogrenivek(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: > They say education is power abd naybe they were correct. I agree with > the fact that more people need to use encryption, the problem (as you > stated) is that people do not understand how to use it, or even know > it exists. Unfortunate for us, fortunate for big brother. While the > only way we can counteract this debate is through empowerment, the > question remains, how do you spread the word to up to a million > people, enough to get their interest and keep it, enough to take the > time to teach them how to use the tools. I work for an IT department I'd say the obvious answer is to buy a spammers mailing list and then use it to send out a one-time-only missive on the issues with a directive of where to go for more information. Mass email letters to newspapers all over the US (or whereever you are). Hit usenet with copies. Buy add space in newspapers and magazines. Hit up the local media for PSA's. Use the local public access television stations. etc. It's not the how that people are having a hard time with, it's the why. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Intelligent cameras, a reference
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Scientific American Apr. 1996 Smart Rooms Alex P. Pentland pp. 68 - 76 ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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LEA Interviews
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is attorney protected information. We've been having discussion with a legal person about being interviewed by law enforcement officials and/or signing a statement. These comments are offered by permission (and might be coupled with DCF's advice of saying only "I Want a Lawyer"): [Begin comments] > What do you mean, that they would use the information to > "impeach" a possible witness? Do you mean that he would not > be called to testify against a defendant? Sorry to be opaque - "impeachment" means, basically, making a witness lose credibility with the jury. The only use I've been able to imagine for wanting a written statement is to make you look bad, in the event that you are called by either side to testify, and end up testifying favorably to the defendant. If you appear to be a "hostile witness", it's even possible that you can be impeached by the attorney/party who asked you to testify. The scenario I see looks something like this - 1. You're called as a defense witness to testify to the effect that you've been on the list for years, messages like the defendants's weren't unique or especially unusual, that you understood them as satire or political commentary and not as actual threats, given the wider context in which they occurred. The general impression conveyed by your testimony is that you're a rational, reasonable, respectable person who the jury can like and trust, that you think the defendant is perhaps weird but basically misunderstood and harmless. 2. The prosecution cross-examines you about your conclusions re the defendant - they're going to ask you how well you really knew/know him, how much you knew about his other behavior (they're likely to try to sneak in information about the defendant's other alleged misbehavior here, if they haven't already), and so forth. To the extent that you say you didn't know him, your direct testimony becomes less and less relevant - and if you start to say that you did know him well, they're likely to produce the document you wrote/signed, and ask you a series of uncomfortable questions about it, designed to create the impression you were lying to the jury earlier during your testimony, e.g., if the statement says "I didn't know that the defendant had done these other creepy things, and they make me question whether or not I know him very well, and I feel differently about his threats now that I know about those creepy things", the prosecutor will make a big production out of pointing out the differences between your testimony at trial and what you wrote during the LEA interrogation. Understandably, you probably wanted to distance yourself from the defendant when the LE agents were in your home, especially after they'd given you a list of creepy things he supposedly did - but they're going to hold you to the same degree of distance from him and his thoughts/actions if you end up testifying at trial. Writing it down and having you sign it serves several purposes - it gives the prosecutor a document s/he can wave around, ask you to read from, and otherwise organize a little production around - it also lets you be impeached with your own words, instead of calling the cops to the stand to dispute your recollection of your conversation, which takes on a "he said/she said" tone, and might make it look like the big mean cops were picking on poor little you. If they can make poor little you eat his own words, they look good, and you look bad. So .. that's what I'm afraid the document is for. I've been trying to think of something else - but especially where the agents asked you to pick out just key bits of your conversation, and assert that they're true, and let the rest of the information be lost to memory and time .. it makes me think the information they selected was important to them. The information they got seems helpful to them only in the context that you end up testifying at trial - I can't think of any other reason it would be useful to them. It sounds like the psychological factors of the questioning were pretty well optimized to make you want (probably partly subconsciously) to distance yourself from the defendant, both to avoid implied guilt by association, and to maintain a common ground of reasonableness with the cops while discussing other things like politics. The current issue of the Utne Reader has a piece by the Unabomber's brother and his wife talking about how the FBI manipulated them into providing evidence against the Unabomber by appearing sympathetic and reasonable, forming a common "us (good people) versus the actions of they crazy guy, who needs us to work together to help him get better" bond which was ultimately used to try to kill the crazy guy, to the horror of the brother/wife. While I do think that they may have pulled a fast one on you, I don't think that reflects badly on you as a person .. it's pretty difficult to tell which cops are actually reasonable people, and which are pretending to be reasonable people in order to further their own agendas. [End comments]

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RE: Encryption for the Masses
by Wilson, Jamie (J.R.) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We live in a society where freedom is largely an illusion and where Big Brother doesn't fear protest by the general population. In most cases, simply creating a crisis is enough for individuals to not only give their liberties up but to actually plead for their liberties to be taken away in the name of safety and security. What they don't realize is that the sheep are begging the wolves to protect them. It's not the militia guy next door that I'm worried about -- he pretty much tells us what he's up to. What I'm afraid of is the NSA reading my email and listening to my phone calls without my knowledge. So how do we get the masses to realize that we aren't talking about a potential threat, but are actually already living in a Big Brother society with very few secrets. We can continue to bury our heads in the illusion that we really are free, but we have to ask ourselves whether we are more free today than we were ten years, five years or even a year ago. If the answer is no, then there is a serious problem. So excusing my rant, my point is that when the average individual wakes up and realizes that his or her life really is an open book and that every piece of email sent has been filtered through a computer somewhere, that every posting to a newsgroup has been archived and just may pop up and haunt them in the future, when they realize that the only privacy available to them is the privacy that they claim and defend then, and only then, will we see a change in crypto policies around the world. When the citizenry begins demanding accountability by elected officials for the privacy that they've sold, for the chains they've placed on their constituents and for the oaths they have broken then we'll see the tide change for the better. Until then, the rest of us will have to wage the fight to protect the ignorant. ____________________________________________________ J. Richard Wilson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNm7BSsDUWXiy5rQXEQJRUQCdEUMFE6kfNz2/hzJmOmiKoAyEKEYAoNtd vAJ/Hc/RTsdDs+F7eLnroqCT =Gxd/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----Original Message----- From: Joel O'Connor [mailto:ogrenivek@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, 09 December, 1998 10:26 To: Anonymous Cc: Cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: They say education is power abd naybe they were correct. I agree with the fact that more people need to use encryption, the problem (as you stated) is that people do not understand how to use it, or even know it exists. Unfortunate for us, fortunate for big brother. While the only way we can counteract this debate is through empowerment, the question remains, how do you spread the word to up to a million people, enough to get their interest and keep it, enough to take the time to teach them how to use the tools. I work for an IT department and the users I train rank from intelligent to "where the hell did you come from?!" Teaching people who have no want or need is the hardest part, just ask Christians, they know what it's like. Our greatest problems lie within our inability to train and make use of what lies in front of us, if people don't see the need, then why would they? Another point, some people feel that if they have nothing to hide, then why use it. An acquaitance of mine has the same stubborn attitude, what steps do you take to thwart that? That excuse bothers me beyond belief, but it is a common thought that if you need to take the steps to hide something, then it must be wrong. God help us. . . ---Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> wrote: > > I think setting up mirror sites of crypto archives > across the world is a great idea. However, I also > think we need to focus on getting more and more > people to use crypto. I would guess that the vast > majority of computer users worldwide see no use > for encryption in their day-to-day lives -- and > even those that do don't also use it. > > If everybody in the world is using encryption, it > is going to be extremely difficult for "democratic" > governments to tell them they can't use it any more. > > Unfortunately, it's easy for governments to blame > crypto for terrorism and a host of other crimes, > simply because the average citizen doesn't understand > the concept of an "electronic envelope". > > > == Ogre bounces like sonar. . .Peace. Ogre _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: The politics of crypto archives (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 20:03:05 +0100 > From: Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen(a)stud.uni-muenchen.de> > Subject: Re: The politics of crypto archives > We were talking about a site that has to be closed because of (new) > crypto laws, not technically down which is seldom with modern hardware. > And also you said that money is no problem! You need to go back and re-read what prompted this. Your responce is completely out of context. > Why you care so much about people who voluteer to run sites? They > certainly know what kind of risks that they probably face, financial > or otherwise. Do you care your neighbour who opens up a new company > and do you feel unconditionally have to give him advices?? Are you > the one who is cleverer than all the others? It depends, do I shop there? I'm done with this discussion. You want to expect people to put their neck on the line and you use their services while owning them nothing then wonder why nobody does it, so be it. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: German government press release on Wassenaar (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 98 20:04 +0100 > From: ulf(a)fitug.de (Ulf =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=) > Subject: Re: German government press release on Wassenaar > 1.) Officials point out that "export control" does not mean "export > restriction". Spin-doctor bullshit. There are forms of "export control" (such as the > requirement to notify the Export Office of your exports) that do not > hinder the export of crypto software in any significant way. So it > remains to be seen how Germany and other countries will implement > the new rules. And why should one need to notify them if there is not at least the implied ability on their part to say "NO, you won't either."? > 2.) The government has acknowledged that public domain software > remains unrestricted. This also applies to copyrighted software such > as PGP which "has been made available without restrictions upon its > further dissemination". PGP is NOT unrestrited. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by owner-cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: News on Wassenaar anyone?
by Ted Rallis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If cryptography protecting intellectual property is exempt from regulation, my words are now my intellectual property -- all of them. Ted Jan Garefelt <jang(a)pobox.se> on 12/08/98 11:11:33 AM To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cc: (bcc: Ted Rallis/Certicom) Subject: News on Wassenaar anyone? Does anyone have information on the new Wassenaar arrangement, or information on when official information will be available? I'm only interested in the crypto parts, and I have already read the Aaron/Reuter story found on http://www.crypto.com/reuters/show.cgi?article=912708583 Thanks /Jan Garefelt

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Global Strike to protest Wassenaar
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, "Strike to protest Wassenaar!" URL: http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/ "This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions on cryptographic software technology. The strike is meant to raise awareness about the importance of cryptography, about the U.S. government's wrongheaded attempts to curtail its use, and about the strong-arm tactics used by the United States to pressure other countries into limiting their citizens' rights the way it has limited its own." Regards, Ken Williams Packet Storm Security http://www.Genocide2600.com/~tattooman/ E.H.A.P. Head of Operations http://www.ehap.org/ ehap(a)ehap.org NC State CS Dept http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/ jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu PGP DSS/DH/RSA Keys http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pgpkey/ ___________________________________________________________________ Get Your Email Sniffed and Decrypted for Free at http://www.nsa.gov -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNm/VQJDw1ZsNz1IXAQGzygf/Zt/sP419T5dA1gY/Rru7ACtv6xWXWMUA HDBQPFbGV8yviOIU7N2bHndWGtr+hjPcdoudoXlOwYF73/TybNSzs6J/iAF9yhSR UmRKM+suH8FwJ90F+i36W8hCQrkhPYXEwXW4AWDEeGNKjZdRLApS/POMcnTWoTSK iHwDsdE+AevhlcWuC1nk80AlSEVNE/B2zmbWGax12tciM2NxTc4AqtqI3BwXebVq f/04ZC9515dR/XHGhtbmQ08sTNS9eQUG8H626XE58XtE+MOsVEJYjUQFDd9L13T2 dlun/4+U1J9xMmN8uYlUySxKr9XmharSXLJCmpmIaE0bwDwTx7Pkpw== =DaVN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by owner-cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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[ZKS Press Release] 50th Anniversary of the Declaration of HumanRights a Reminder th at Privacy must be Preserved
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: Nicola Dourambeis <nicola(a)zks.net> To: ZKS Press Releases <zks-press(a)zks.net> Subject: [ZKS Press Release] 50th Anniversary of the Declaration of Human Rights a Reminder th at Privacy must be Preserved Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:13:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-zks-press(a)zks.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: press(a)zks.net ======================================================== Zero-Knowledge Systems Press Release, http://www.zks.net ======================================================== 50th Anniversary of the Declaration of Human Rights a Reminder that Privacy must be Preserved. Web site launched to allow citizens of the world to protest their loss of privacy. December 9, 1998 (Montreal)--On the 50th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), as well as in protest of the recent changes to cryptography policies worldwide, Zero-Knowledge Systems is spearheading a campaign to encourage governments to loosen newly imposed cryptography restrictions. This campaign, seen on the web site http://www.freecrypto.org, enables citizens of the world to express their outrage and concern at the increasing loss of their privacy. Article 12 of the UDHR states, "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family home, or correspondence...." Yet, decades later, we are witnessing the unprecedented collection of personal information and intrusions into the lives of many. Internet users in particular, confront multiple privacy violations while online. Over 80% of Internet users polled consider privacy be their primary concern. The best defense for online privacy is to use strong cryptography, which allows Internet users to preserve the privacy of their communications and personal information. On December 3, 1998, the Internet community experienced one of the strongest setbacks to their privacy in recent years. The 33 member countries of the Wassenaar Arrangement agreed for the first time to impose export restrictions on mass-market cryptography products. Until December 3rd, the majority of the Wassenaar signatories did not impose export controls over mass-market products that protect personal security and privacy through cryptography. The United States Department of Commerce Under-Secretary has taken credit for convincing all other Wassenaar countries to impose these added restrictions over cryptography designed for average citizens. Barry Steinhardt, President of the Electronic Frontier Foundation believes "The US government has strong-armed the rest of the industrialized world into adopting a policy that will make us less secure and more vulnerable to electronic terrorism. Our critical national and international infrastructures need to be protected by strong encryption. Weak encryption with back doors that will be exploited not just by governments, but by information pirates, will leave us at greater risk." "It is not too late to reverse course," continues Steinhardt. "Wassenaar allows, but does not require, the other national governments to follow the US' foolish lead." "Cryptography is the key to preserving privacy for Internet users," explains Austin Hill, President of Zero-Knowledge Systems. "By limiting the accessibility of cryptography, you are limiting people's ability to protect themselves. Now, more than ever, we have the ability to influence the future of the electronic world; we must ensure that it has the same the basic rights and protections that the UDHR promised us fifty years ago." Hill continues, "We hope that Internet users will be proactive in protesting this human rights infringement to their governments. The freecrypto.org web site provides such a space, where users can learn about the issues and send their government representatives a message expressing their dissatisfaction with the tightening of cryptography controls." The freecrypto.org web site provides a form that citizens can fill out and have faxed or emailed to their respective government representatives. It also provides information and articles on the recently imposed cryptography restrictions. ---------------------------------------------------------------30----------- ---------------------------------------------------- The Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of the leading civil liberties organizations devoted to ensuring that the Internet remains the world's first truly global vehicle for free speech, and that the privacy and security of all on-line communication is preserved. Founded in 1990 as a nonprofit, public interest organization, EFF is based in San Francisco, California and maintains an extensive archive of information on free speech, privacy, and encryption policy at http://www.eff.org. Zero-Knowledge Systems Inc., http://www.zks.net, is a Canadian based software developer dedicated to providing cryptographic solutions for the privacy and security of Internet users. They will be launching their first product called Freedom(tm) in February 1999. For more information, contact: Nicola Dourambeis Alex Fowler, Marketing Associate Director of Public Affairs Zero-Knowledge Systems Inc. Electronic Frontier Foundation Tel. (514) 286-2636 ext. 222 Tel. (415) 436-9333 ext. 103 Email. nicola(a)zks.net Email. afowler(a)eff.org --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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A server for a crypto CD?
by mgraffam＠idsi.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all .. Does anyone have a server with a CDROM drive? I have a 500+ meg archive of crypto-related material (crypto, stego, tempest, information theory, etc). Lots of software, applications, and papers (100M or so). I'd be glad to burn out a CD, and send it to anyone who can put the material online. It'll take time to get it ready: I need time to strip out some stuff (non-redistributable Fortezza stuff .. its probably a moot point, now that we have Skipjack, but why risk it for something so dumb?). If you have the bandwidth, let me know. Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam(a)idsi.net) They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers.. call this a new order. It is not new, and it is not order." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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COMMENT: Minimum Security Devices and Procedures and Bank Secrecy
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A letter someone CC'ed to dc-stuff, we seem to be having the same conversations there and here... Waasenaar and FDIC "Know your customer" -- Max Inux <maxinux(a)openpgp.net> Hey Christy!!! KeyID 0x8907E9E5 Kinky Sex makes the world go round O R Strong crypto makes the world safe If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto Fingerprint(Photo Also): 259D 59F7 D98C CD73 1ACD 54Ea 6C43 4877 8907 E9E5 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-Loop: openpgp.net From: KAT in the HAT <katinthehat(a)rocketmail.com> To: comments(a)FDIC.gov Subject: COMMENT: Minimum Security Devices and Procedures and Bank Secrecy Act I would like to state that this is the most Orwellian, privacy-invading, search-without-a-warrant, snoopy regulation I have ever seen. I believe it is a horrible idea that should never be allowed. I am growing so tired of my government trying to monitor it's every citizen's every move just in case there may be a criminal act committed. Every citizen is innocent until proven guilty and has a right to privacy against such causeless searches. As the 4th amendment to the Constitution of the United States says (have you ever heard of it?): "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oaths and affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." What you advocate is a warrantless search of all my financial papers and effects without probable cause or evidence of any sort of crime being committed. This kind of nosy government action is exactly the kind of thing that should never be allowed in a free state. I will fight to keep my nation from becoming a 24- hour-a-day, 7-days-a-week monitored police state until my last breath. I urge you to vote against this ghastly measure and to banish it and any act like it to the trashcan. The citizens of the United States deserve better than to be treated like children watched over by Mother Government. If this act is passed, I know what my response will be. I will promptly withdraw all my monies from any institution that follows these regulations, refuse to do any sort of business with them, and urge all my friends and family to do the same. I know that many others will do the same without hesitation. Try explaining to your member and nonmember banks why there is such a sudden cash shortage and why they are losing customers left and right. This act would undoubtedly trigger a nationwide economic crisis as people withdrew from a banking system that had become a puppet of law enforcement and Big Brother. We must be able to TRUST our banks with our money. WE are the customers and any bank that holds goverment surveillance above my trust is no bank that I will do business with. I will simply take my paychecks each month and cash them in their entirety and then do what I want, when I want, unwatched, with my money. I will not be surveilled by Big Brother under the guise of protecting me against shadowy criminals. I value my privacy highly, not because I am a criminal, but because I am a free American, and such privacy is guaranteed to me by our highest legal document (the Constitution). I recommend the FDIC members read it sometime, because obviously they never have before, or this ludicrous act would have never even been proposed. Simply put, this is the worst idea I have ever heard and strongly urge its defeat and nonadoption. Thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The masters of technology will have to be lighthearted and intelligent. The machine easily masters the grim and the dumb. --Marshall McLuhan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Welcome To The Multex Investor Network
by Multex Investor Network 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by owner-cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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lots of juicy y2k news
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:41:51 -0700 From: Bill Mee <bill.mee(a)lmco.com> Subject: Y2K Alert - San Francisco blackout - Pentagon way behind schedul The following is a free Y2K alert + analysis from Y2KNEWSWIRE.COM. ____________________________________________________________ SPECIAL ALERT SAN FRANCISCO BLACKOUT! Guess what, folks: the power system *is* vulnerable to a domino-effect failure. Earlier today (Tuesday), over one million residents of San Francisco lost power. According to this WIRED story (link below), here's what happened (as described by the WIRED story): "An electrical power substation about 20 miles south of San Francisco failed shortly after 8:15 a.m. Tuesday, causing a chain reaction that tripped the two main power generators in San Francisco and knocked out power to 375,000 utility customers in a 49-mile square area. Pacific Gas and Electric estimated that 938, 000 people were affected by the outage." The story quotes Peter Neumann, author of "Computer Related Risks," as saying, "The entire power generation, transmission, and distribution problem is suffering, because there is very little spare power anymore." The cause of the problem? According to the power company, "The cause of the outage was simple human error, which then triggered a complex sequence of events." That's frightening. If "simple human error" can cause this, what might complex human error (i.e. Y2K) cause? The power outage caused massive problems. The SFO airport suffered a total power failure and was running on generators, and BART, the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, lost 17 of its 57 trains. Elevators were stuck mid-floor and the morning commute was a frenzy. THE SAN FRANCISCO REMINDER This event is a reminder of what can happen when Y2K hits, and it alerts us to the fallibility of the power services. This was ONE little glitch. What happens when the Y2K rollover causes a hundred such problems? Or a thousand? And then you combine those little glitches with other little glitches from the phone system, the 911 system, the transportation infrastructure and the banks. What do you get then? By the way, this little incident is also going to deplete inventories of generators in the Bay Area as people finally get it: Hey, we could lose power! If you live in San Fran and you've been *thinking* about getting a generator, you're now TOO LATE. But it's not too late to move out of the city altogether, which is probably the safest option, considering what might happen if the power stays off for DAYS instead of hours. In this case, power was restored within hours to most customers, but that might not be the case when Y2K hits. Y2KNEWSWIRE encourages people to stock a 30-day supply of food, water, medicine, cash and heating supplies in case a much longer power outage occurs during the 1/1/2000 rollover. Or better yet, distance yourself from any high-density population center. AN OVERVIEW OF THE POWER PROBLEM * There are few backup power supplies available, so some failures that used to have backups no longer do * Failures DO cascade throughout the system. In this case, one small substation caused a power loss to one million people * Power failures almost immediately bring a city to its knees. All transportation is immediately threatened, and few businesses have enough fuel to run generators longer than 24 hours. * All it takes is one simple little human mistake to cause one million people to lose power. What might a complex, unpredictable problem like Y2K cause to happen? * Demands on the power system are higher than ever, and extra power bandwidth is almost non-existent. There is very little "extra" to go around if power stations start to fail. Read the WIRED story at: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/16710.html Or, an earlier report at: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/16709.html Fox News reports on it, too, at: http://www.foxnews.com/stage04.sml PENTAGON WAY BEHIND ON Y2K REPAIRS This Union Tribune story (link below) describes the unimpressive status of the Pentagon's Y2K repairs, stating, "...a recent Pentagon report states that the Defense Department is behind its own schedule for rewriting computer software to work after 1999. While 52 percent of the military's mission-critical weapons and computers meet Y2K standards, the Pentagon schedule calls for 100 percent compliance by the end of this month." There's another deadline that won't be met. It's the old December 31, 1998 milestone, remember? So what's going on here, really? "Y2K is taking longer than expected," says John Pike, a military analyst for the Federation of American Scientists. The Army and Air Force are 70% behind schedule and 30% of the Navy's systems are behind schedule. Yet, somehow, the Air Force is promising to have 85% of its systems compliant in the "coming weeks." The story also reports how the NSA (National Security Agency) has only 19% of its systems ready, and some fixes aren't even scheduled to be done until October of 1999. And that's if they're on-time! DENIAL IN ACTION With all this in mind, this story reports that John Hamre, the Pentagon's No. 2 civilian says, "The Department of Defense will be able to defend the United States of America on the 1st of January 2000, no question about it." Then another Pentagon official (unnamed) says *other* countries are still in denial. THE ACCIDENTAL NUKE LAUNCH THEORY The nuke launch theory resurfaces in this story, too, with the following: "Hobbled by a flat-line economy and deteriorating military, Russia's nuclear weapons systems are susceptible to the Y2K Bug, says analyst Kraig. Or, he says, computer glitches in American early-warning systems might falsely indicate a Russian missile launch. He suggests that the United States, Russia and other nations with nuclear weapons stand down their missiles until potential Y2K problems are resolved." Link at: http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/sun/news/news_1n6year. html BUT CAN MISSILES REALLY LAUNCH ON THEIR OWN? Yep. South Korea proved it just last Friday. Read this story: CIRCUITRY GLITCH LAUNCHES MISSILE IN SOUTH KOREA While the world debates whether nuclear missiles might be accidentally launched by a Y2K-related computer glitch, last Friday saw a fully-armed anti-aircraft missile *accidentally* fired in South Korea. It killed three people from the raining debris. This Reuters story reports: "The Korean air force said in a statement that a circuitry defect occurred as soldiers turned on a switch which signified that all was ready for inspection. 'Normally the missile cannot be launched with this switch,' the statement said. 'A circuitry problem, not human error, was the cause of the accident,' it added." Obviously, nuclear missile have far more robust safeguards against accidental launch than an anti-aircraft missile, but the comparisons are inevitable. At the very least, this incident proves once and for all that problems with the circuitry (embedded systems) can cause missiles to accidentally launch. Read the story at: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/wl/story.html? s=v/nm/19981204/wl/korea_36.html (Sorry about the extra-long URL link. You might have to reattach the two halves if your e-mail program 'wrapped' it.) WILL GOD PROVIDE? It's fascinating. Here at Y2KNEWSWIRE.COM, we receive about ten remove requests each week stating, essentially, "Take me off this list. I don't need to prepare. God will provide for me." We're guessing these people forgot about the story of Noah. God helps those people who prepare, not those who ignore all the warnings and think of God as some kind of giant FEMA service. Whether or not you think God will help you through this crisis, you *still* need to prepare. Don't let your faith in God be an excuse to do nothing. The people *best* prepared for Y2K, it seems, are those who are spiritually, mentally and physically prepared. MORE DETAILS ON FDIC'S CUSTOMER PROFILING PLAN We've been called frauds and hoaxers for mentioning the FDIC's new "Big Brother" plans that would have banks tracking and monitoring all your private banking behavior and reporting to the "authorities" any time your behavior veers from what's considered, "normal." Some of you didn't believe this was real. You were skeptical. So today we're posting the actual link on the FDIC's site that spells it out. Read it yourself and wake up: the banks and the FDIC are going to play hardball on this Y2K issue. They'll do everything in their power to discourage cash withdrawals while putting a positive spin on it (notice the tame name, the "Know Your Customer" program!). Why? Because they're fighting for survival. Here's some of the text from the FDIC site (link below): "SUMMARY: The FDIC is proposing to issue a regulation requiring insured nonmember banks to develop and maintain "Know Your Customer'' programs. As proposed, the regulation would require each nonmember bank to develop a program designed to determine the identity of its customers; determine its customers' sources of funds; determine the normal and expected transactions of its customers; monitor account activity for transactions that are inconsistent with those normal[[Page 67530]]and expected transactions; and report any transactions of its customers that are determined to be suspicious, in accordance with the FDIC's existing suspicious activity reporting regulation." Notice the words being used here: ...determine the identify... determine customers' sources of funds...monitor account activity.. .report any transactions determined to be suspicious... suspicious activity reporting regulation. These are not the ideas that should be promoted in a free society. These phrases belong in the realm of a Police State, where every person is monitored in order to "root out the criminals." Or, in this case, to root out people wanting cash for Y2K. What happened to the idea of privacy for American citizens? If this FDIC regulation passes, you can forget about it. Not only will federal authorities have the right to dig through your bank records at their leisure, the people working at the bank will be legally *required* to snoop on you. Interestingly, the proposed FDIC Big Brother regulation may actually accelerate the cash demand as people try to beat the "Know Your Customer" deadline and get their cash out early. The FDIC may actually cause its own worst nightmare. Read the text yourself at: http://www.fdic.gov/lawsregs/fedr/98knocus.txt Want to comment on the FDIC's Big Brother plan? Here's the information given by the FDIC: DATES: Comments must be received by March 8, 1999. ADDRESSES: Comments should be directed to: Robert E. Feldman, Executive Secretary, Attention: Comments/OES, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, 550 17th Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20429. Comments may be hand-delivered to the guard station at the rear of the 550 17th Street Building (located on F Street), on business days between 7 a.m. and 5 p.m. In addition, comments may be sent by fax to (202) 898-3838, or by electronic mail to comments(a)FDIC.gov. Comments may be inspected and photocopied in the FDIC Public Information Center, Room 100, 801 17th Street, NW, Washington, D.C., between 9 a.m. and 4:30 p.m., on business days. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Carol A. Mesheske, Special Activities Section, Division of Supervision, (202) 898-6750, or Karen L. Main, Counsel, Legal Division (202) 898-8838. But wait! The FDIC e-mail address given here *doesn't even work! * It appears the FDIC doesn't really want your comments. We dug up the right address: commentsoes(a)fdic.gov WIGGLE ROOM Don't ya love these Year 2000 "compliance statements" put out by banks? Here's one sent in by a reader. It shows *lots* of wiggle room: "California Federal Bank has already anticipated these problems. Our Year 2000 Project Team has conducted a comprehensive review to determine the changes we need to make to our systems. Some of the modifications are currently being made, and we expect to test and have the majority of the modifications functioning by December 31, 1998. I hope that I have been able to address all of your concerns. If you have any further questions, written inquiries may be mailed to our Year 2000 Project Team..." With this kind of statement, even missing the December 31 deadline means you're still "on track" because you can claim that you never promised ALL the systems would be done on time. Here's our favorite phrase: "comprehensive review." If you've ever been part of any committee, you're fully aware of the meaningless of this phrase. RIGHT ON TIME, CNN USES THE WORD, 'HOARDING' Just as Y2KNEWSWIRE warned, some media outlets are going to start bashing those who are smart enough to prepare for Y2K. Right on cue, CNN publishes this AP story entitled, "Worry over Y2K sparks hoarding of dried foods." See it at: http://www.cnn.com/FOOD/news/9812/07/y2k.hoarding.ap/ WATCH CAREFULLY! Watch for the gerund "hoarding" to metamorph into a plural noun: "hoarders!" It will happen, and when it does, that's a sign that the mainstream is beginning the attack on those who prepare. We predicted it months ago, and you'll see it soon enough, because the people who waited until the last minute are going to be angry when they can't find the supplies they want. And who will they blame? Those who prepared early, of course. That is, unless the folks in Washington show some leadership and actually encourage people to take some common-sense, basic preparations. In fact, just today, Y2KNEWSWIRE issues a nationwide press release urging John Koskinen to take some action on this. Read our statement at: http://www.y2knewswire.com/koskinen.htm DETAILS ON THE POSTAL SERVICE? There's one government agency we haven't heard much from on Y2K yet: the postal service. If you work for the USPS and you'd like to tell us what you know about its Y2K preparedness, give us a shout at tips(a)y2knewswire.com We'll keep you anonymous, of course, so you don't get fired. MISSOURI DEPT. OF HEALTH DEMANDS DOCTORS PROVE THEIR COMPLIANCE The Missouri Dept of Health is getting Missouri doctors hot under the collar. A recent letter sent to all Missouri-based health practitioners commands them to present detailed descriptions of the steps they've taken to make their computers Y2K-compliant. These must be returned by December 24th of this year, and those who are late will receive stiff penalties. Our guess is the Mo. Dept. of Health isn't even compliant yet. More importantly, this brings up a critical Y2K point: you can't just DEMAND everything be fixed on time. That doesn't mean it will be fixed. China is trying this right now, threatening criminal sentencing for companies that don't get compliant in time. (Wow, neat trick.) The state of Florida is trying something similar, although probably without the China-style imprisonment. It's hilarious to see bureaucrats beat their heads against the wall on this. They're so used to passing laws to change peoples' behavior, they think it applies to Y2K as well. They think they can just *regulate* the results of Y2K repairs, actually causing things to be fixed by simply demanding so. If anything, Y2K is going to laughingly demonstrate the futility of over-legislation. If you criminalize "not being compliant," you don't solve the problem, you just end up with LOTS of criminals after 2000. FCC WORRIED ABOUT PLANES HITTING TOWERS As often as the Y2K skeptics refer to, "planes falling out of the sky," they almost never give it the serious thought it deserves. There are, in fact, a dozen or more ways planes can actually "fall from the sky," all related to Y2K. The FCC recently revealed yet another one we haven't thought of yet: planes hitting unlit radio towers. In fact, this scenario has the FCC so worried, they recently issued an "Antenna Structure Lighting Responsibilities" statement. Their summary of the problem leaves nothing to the imagination. They say, "Y2K-related problems could cause a structure's light systems to fail, which will create a hazard to air navigation. Computer-controlled devices, such as those found in automatic monitoring and control systems used for antenna structure lighting, are vulnerable to Y2K-related malfunctions, and may fail. Commercial electric power sources may also fail, leaving antenna structures vulnerable to blackouts." The statement goes further, saying, "The Commission considers all light outages and malfunctions as extremely serious situations. We therefore expect antenna structure owners (and licensees, who are secondarily responsible in the event of default by the owner) to become aware of the ways in which Y2K-related problems may affect their light systems, and to be prepared to promptly report and remedy all outages and malfunctions." Can you say, "Y2K lawsuit?" We already know that at least *two* planes are going to be in the sky that night: one carrying Jane Garvey and the other carrying John Koskinen. Suppose one of these hits a radio tower (because the lights mysteriously went out). Major lawsuit time. The FCC has already warned the holders of the FCC licenses they are, "secondarily responsible" for such events. In lawyer-speak, that means KA-CHING! Pass the bankroll, buddy, you just bought yourself a 747. To review some of the many various ways planes can actually fall out of the sky: 1) Ground control radar could fail, causing the planes to run out of fuel. 2) Electronics in the plane itself could fail, causing the pilot to lose control of the aircraft, resulting in a crash. 3) Navigation electronics could fail, sending the plane into a mountain or straight into the ground. 4) Faulty air traffic control could result in a mid-air collision, taking out *two* planes at once. 5) Problems with refueling systems or fuel indicators could make the ground crew or the pilot think the plane has more fuel than it does, causing a mid-air depletion of fuel (doesn't seem likely, but it's one more potential scenario). Read the FCC details at: http://www.fcc.gov/cib/Public_Notices/da982408.html THE Y2KNEWSWIRE MAIL BAG (Actual e-mail sent from readers.) "Greetings. I had quite a disturbing reality take place today. I live in Seattle, WA and I bank with Seafirst, a northwest bank owned by Bank of America. I went to my local bank with the intentions of withdrawing my menial savings account of approximately $3,000. I walked into my bank, filled out a withdrawal slip, and approached a teller. When the young woman behind the counter saw the amount that I was trying to withdrawal, she literally began to panic. She had a brief conference with a few of her co-workers and then informed me that the bank did not have the cash to give to me! They were literally "out of money" as she told me. "You could try and come back later today and we MIGHT have enough then" she told me. I began to think what a scary situation we are going to be witnessing when 10 people try to withdraw just $3,000 each from their accounts! Y2KNEWSWIRE ASKS FOR YOUR HELP Have you recently received a notice from your bank designed to limit your access to your own money? If so, we'd like to hear about it. One reader sent in this notice: "In accordance with Federal Reserve Regulation D, [bank name] will continue to reserve the right to require a 7-day notice on the withdrawal of funds in any money market or savings account." We suspect banks are quietly taking action to place limits on your ability to get cash. 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by owner-cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

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RE: Wassenaar summary (and a funny new loophole)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are items freely exportable between countrys that are party to this agreement? >Systems that do not meet those conditions are export-controlled if they >use symmetric encryption with more than 56 bit keys, algorithms based >on factorization or on logarithms in finite fields with more than 512 >bit keys (e.g. RSA, DH) or on discrete logarithms in other groups (such >as elliptic curves) with more than 112 bits. They may be exported for >personal use.

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