December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Sammerseers Theft of Ben lauries Intellectual Property(i.e.apache
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net cc: Subject: Sameers ande C2 Nets Appropriation of Apache-SSL(Bens Code) -------- For the clueless or history deficient C2 gots its start by purloining without compensation Ben Lauries Apache-SSL patches.... Sameer used these and then had the fucking gall to remove source from apache-ssl for the mod_ssl.c... all was rosy until Ralf releases a mod_ssl.c of his design... result?? C2's business worlwide took a nose dive...(layoffs etc) so now Sameer is trying to coopt Ralf's mod_ssl.c project (mark my words if Sameer gets his way the source for future verions will NOT be available no matter what he says now...) I seen it happen once so now when the litte sob trys it again I am blowing the whistle...(and retelling history openly) how about it Sameer are you now going to Sue the Mix network:) ? the turds in Sameers Swimming pool p.s. to the clueless Jim Finder..Happy now asshole...? BTW I will post when and where I feel like !

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Forwarded mail...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:50:34 -0600 (CST) > From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl(a)mfn.org> > Subject: Re: I must admit. . . > On Thu, 24 Dec 1998, Reeza! finally got to the point of the matter: > > <massive snip> > :, that does not mean I'm willing to allow one > :expansionist dictator to sanction another country and gain control of > :enough of the worlds oil supply to impact the well-being of my country. > > I believe this is the the only true argument here. The US (and you) are > not "pleased" with the fact that the one place on the planet that has the > worlds largest oil deposits is not beholden to the USG. Actualy there are equivalent oil and gas deposits in SE Asia and Antartica. But they doesn't belong to the USG either. Of course the point is valid. Though it almost begs the question of why in such a situation there is not a more powerful search for alternatives. There are actualy very few technologies that care whether oil or gas is used in energy production or some entirely different process. ____________________________________________________________________ What raises the standard of living may well diminish the quality of life. The Club of Rome The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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and justice for all but the Goldmans and Jones
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:09 AM 12/24/98 -0800, Eric Murray wrote: >Anonymous writes: > >> I think about putting up about $200 or so (whetever a decent spamming >> will cost me) and spam the internet with the information about jurors >> rights and jury nullification. >> >> Anyone thinks that it is a good idea? > >No, it's a bad idea. The ends do not justify the means. > The ends: justice. The means: a common abuse, which perchance should be illegal like junkfax, but isn't. The means: in the late 90s the people had the chance, for a few years, before the XC Massacre, to publish without convincing corporations. Do the math.

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land of the free
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:24 PM 12/24/98 +0100, Anonymous wrote: >Well if you are going to go to the trouble and expense, then you >should also put something in there to educate the masses about >how to use crypto to protect themselves, and why this is a good >idea. Trouble and expense of what? If you refer to the FIJA spamming, then you will simply confuse the sheeple with too many issues.

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spamactivism
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:07 PM 12/24/98 +0100, Anonymous wrote: >I think about putting up about $200 or so (whetever a decent spamming >will cost me) and spam the internet with the information about jurors >rights and jury nullification. > >Anyone thinks that it is a good idea? Education can only be for the good. Got an anonymous ecash account of some sort? In either case, kudos.

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Re: Sammers eers Theft of Ben lauries Intellectual
by jim finder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: >For the clueless or history deficient > >C2 gots its start by purloining without compensation >Ben Lauries Apache-SSL patches.... Sameer used these and then >had the fucking gall to remove source from apache-ssl >for the mod_ssl.c... all was rosy until Ralf releases >a mod_ssl.c of his design... result?? >C2's business worlwide took a nose dive...(layoffs etc) >so now Sameer is trying to coopt Ralf's mod_ssl.c project >(mark my words if Sameer gets his way the source for future >verions will NOT be available no matter what he says now...) >I seen it happen once so now when the litte sob trys it >again I am blowing the whistle...(and retelling history openly) >how about it Sameer are you now going to Sue the Mix network:) ? > > the turds in Sameers Swimming pool >p.s. to the clueless Jim Finder..Happy now asshole...? No, I'm afraid I'm not. Could you offer either verifiable evidence of the above, or at least back up your accusation by signing your name? Either would be better than making an anonymous accusation that we have no way to verify. I'm sorry I wasn't privy to what ever went on behind the scene between C2NET, Ben, Ralf, Eric, etc., but I think I speak for most readers when I admit that I wasn't. Ben made a serious accusation that an important member of the open sources and crypto community has a hidden agenda to subvert the availability of open source crypto code. If it is false, let this stop. If it's true, then let's shout it far and wide, and deny them the support of the community. Anonymous and unverifiable accusations advance neither case All I've seen so far is Ben and Sameer throwing shit at each other, egged on by anonymous flamers, without anymone bothering to provider enough information for an outsider to decide how much of it should stick. Right now, all I can conclude is that there is plenty of shit to go around. Ben, would you please spell out your side of the story, and Sameer, would you do likewise so that we can figure this out? Anonymous, put up or shut up. Jim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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mysterious PGP release-signing keys
by Dave Del Torto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please excuse the crosspost, but does anyone know *who* generated and/or owns these keys? 0xBB1EEF1B Verify 0xC8501551 Verify Key for http://www.arc.unm.edu/~drosoff/* 0xAA9AE13F Verify PGP 6.0.2 PP - RSA 0x772B7382 VERIFY <VERIFY(a)gnwmail.com> They seem to be used for signing/verifying PGP releases (e.g. the 602 by CKT at Replay), but there's nothing on the keys that identifies the responsible engineer who compiled the source, nor do some of them seem to be certified by anyone in the WoT. Questions have been raised about the authenticity and security of those compiles and these keys. dave -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 Comment: Get interested in computers -- they're interested in YOU! iQA/AwUBNn11mJBN/qMowCmvEQI4IwCfad0S9Algw7PPDsgWChimC4Cx6dcAnjtu h2trwMi08tJMCD76W6W8DP/L =TFuT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Membership (One user says:)
by John Baskind 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[long and acrimonious discussion, at present ending with this message, clipped] > Let's recall that once this ``situation'' is resolved, the list of > volunteer members/coders will likely increase. Many, I'm sure, myself > included, have held back. I am following this discussion with some alarm, and I am sure that many others who rely on everyone involved in this acrimony to keep our sites running are too. I think competition is very important, and the sort of internal competition you lot are involved in is crucial to the continued speedy evolution of the critical software you are making ( for us users, please be reminded). Those who rely on your skills and expertise--in other words, the vast majority of Apache users, which means, apparently, some 50% of the active Web at this point, NEED you, all of you, as a group. to continue to share your brains and their collective product, with us. Because the vast majority of us couldn't do what you do if our lives depended on it. I use mod_ssl, purely because it seemed easier to install and compile than Apache_SSL, and I really like Ralf's installation notes, not because I formed any judgement about the relative excellence of mod_ssl over Apache_SSL. I am not capable of making that judgement--I rely on YOUR assessments! I really don't care if it actually is easier to install or not; --from my point of view, I honor Tim Hudson and Ben Laurie, Ralf Engelschall and all the less public members of the Apache Group equally. Each of you contributes in a different way to make my life, and therefore livelihood, simpler and more pleasant. Part of my skill set is political consulting--if there's anything I've learned, it is that mud not only sticks to both the flinger and flingee, but also clouds all the subsequent issues between both parties to a remarkably large degree.

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by rivers＠twistedtunes.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by rivers＠twistedtunes.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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I want to spam the Jury Duty information
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well if you are going to go to the trouble and expense, then you should also put something in there to educate the masses about how to use crypto to protect themselves, and why this is a good idea.

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OpenSSL
by Jack Rusher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm familiar with some background and some of the issues. Unfortunately, >what we are faced with is the idea that one group wants to "own" the >concept of an Open SSL project. This is certainly not the way to start >a successful, open source, group-based project. Hey, everybody, here is a novel idea: Why don't we look at this as a great opportunity to make some really good free software that will make all of our lives easier. It is time for the free SSL implementation to move into a larger (and more continously updated) group project. OpenSSL is a great idea, a great name for the idea, and it is the right time to do it. So, how about we stop looking at this as a pissing contest between some strong personalities? There are alot of talented developers on this list, and I think that we would all be better off working together than turning into a bunch of bitter, petty, ego driven camps that are primarily concerned with proving how large their genitals are. What I am trying to say is, if (for instance) Ben and Ralph would like to sit down for a pint and make nice with one another, I am buying. Name the pub, in the neutral country of your choice, and we are there. ;-) j.

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OpenSSL (whoever picks up the banner) Yeah!!
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cc: Subject: Open Source separate from the Crypto export battle -------- Happy What ever to you all ! gee Anonymous... you seem to be quite angry... or a feeble provacateurs attempt to cause division in the ranks(Infowar Level 1 perhaps??) (as if there wasnt enough already...) I think its vitally important to recognize Sameers and C2Nets contribution to fighting against both the US bullshit export laws and to good quality cryptographic software... Stronghold while NOT open source has been a vital and much appreciated part of the battle against the eavesdroppers at the NSA/Interpol/GCHQ etc. I am however somewhat guarded about how Open Source OpenSSL will remain. For example will competitors to C2net be able to use it without licensing or fees to C2net in some form..? I would also like to thank Ben Laurie for making the patches available. A lot of sites run these worldwide. I sincerely wish the anonymous flamers would cease and desist you are contributing as much garbage as the average spammer to these lists If people dont make a profit from crypto activities... then there wont be any crypto... Again Sameer thanx for all you have done.. Seasons greetings Anon.

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No Subject
by rcballen＠mindspring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GAY

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I want to spam the Jury Duty information
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Well if you are going to go to the trouble and expense, then you >should also put something in there to educate the masses about >how to use crypto to protect themselves, and why this is a good >idea. And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how crypto may help end spam. Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. While you're spamming, maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. Hell, go ahead and put the list address as the "From" address. It will shut down the list, make us look like idiots, and accomplish very little, but it's for a good cause. After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's eliminate privacy rights. The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and stupid I've heard on this list in a while. Both of you read "The Prince" one too many times.

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17 Dec '03

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by swedegirl＠193.230.240.21 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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When he changed the extracts a few months later, the group resumed its contentious ways. Berliner froze and saved the extracts. Nearly 30 years later, ... thanks to a method of containing drugs and cosmetics inside tiny, spongelike polymer spheres, he returned to the subject. In 1989 he ... has isolated the suspected good-fellowship pheromones -- behavior-controlling substances similar to those already known to stimulate sexual activity in animals. (One whiff of a pheromone called aphrodisin from a female hamster and a male is ready to mate.) On March 3, 1998 FOX Affiliate, WSVN in Miami did a story on Pheromones, stating, "If you're looking for love, we've got a potion for passion." ... "Tonight, a secret weapon to attract the opposite sex. Researchers developing their own passion potion. Ever been attracted to someone but weren't really sure why? .... 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HI-OCTANE according to the manufacturer, may also intensify sex, by increasing sexual pleasure and endurance of both partners, and creating a higher sexual ecstasy. Individual results may vary. One private study claims that pheromones don't work for everyone. 75% of those trying it had success. Isn't it worth trying? HOW TO ORDER Hi OctaneTM Hi OctaneTM is available from Euphoria Products. A 1/8 oz. bottle with a convenient funnel (to be added to your favorite perfume) is $39.95. Mix 1/4 of the bottle with every 2 oz of your favorite product. One 1/8 oz. bottle is enough to mix with 4 to 8 oz of your favorite product. *** For a limited time, when you order two bottles (up to a two month's supply) of Hi Octane(tm), you'll get a third bottle ABSOLUTELY FREE. *** Please add $3.00 shipping and handling per order. (regardless of how many bottles you order, you pay only $3.00 total!) UPS Second Day Air Delivery is available for an additional $9.00 per order. Overnight, add $15.00 per order. 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Re: [ssl-users] OpenSSL
by Jeffrey Altman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OpenTLS would be a much better name given the standards process in the IETF. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support(a)kermit-project.org

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Announcing our Store Wide Sale!
by Music Boulevard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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jury spam justifiable?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:35 AM 12/26/98 -0000, HyperReal-Anon wrote: >And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's >for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how >crypto may help end spam. Its not stealing because only the Govt can identify crimes. And they haven't. Legal Junk mail doesn't steal time? Legal Solicitors' phone calls don't steal? Taxes don't steal? Courtroom injustice isn't a theft of rights? >Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to >alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. The message must be phrased correctly. >While you're spamming, >maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. Who mentioned any mailing list? This would be a private matter. >After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm >your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking >for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's >eliminate privacy rights. Alls fair in love and war. >The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and The sheeple who haven't figured out how to filter spam are the ones most in need of education. Do it for the children. For the future generations. The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good to do nothing. Or just carry on with the same old same old, if that's what makes you feel better. Best not to make waves, after all. Might scare the horses.

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Are You Doing This ?
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17 Dec '03

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Re: Mixmaster client 4 the Mac OS?
by Robert Guerra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 8:53 PM -0500 1998/12/3, Robert Hettinga wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 01:42:19 +0100 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Subject: Mixmaster client 4 the Mac OS? > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > > I heard sometime last summer that the mixmaster client was being ported to > the Mac. Does anyone know the status of this project? > Perhaps it would be an interesting project which either used the PGPsdk libraries, or GNUPG code... Robert Guerra <az096(a)freenet.toronto.on.ca> WWW Page <http://www.interlog.com/~rguerra/www> PGPKeys <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3378/pgpkeys.html> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: Digital Signatures ensure authenticity and author iQA/AwUBNoRj2sKdCsHMpdeSEQLnUwCfbm1vskjLT5Peanetx3Kq7Wrw5I8An2D1 wo6ePDYFqU4gPyp2fWK+v9k3 =brF8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[PNS-List] CFP: Epidemiology of Ideas
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mailing-List: contact pns-list-owner(a)egroups.com Reply-To: pns-list(a)egroups.com Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-PNS-List(a)eGroups.com From: "Philosophy News Service List Mgr. [richard jones]" <ListMgr(a)PhilosophyNews.com> To: "'PNS-List(a)eGroups.com'" <PNS-List(a)egroups.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 22:50:49 -0500 Subject: [PNS-List] CFP: Epidemiology of Ideas To: pns-list(a)egroups.com From: Mariam Thalos <thalos(a)ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS (fwd) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:49:49 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Smith <phismith(a)acsu.buffalo.edu> To: thalos(a)acsu.buffalo.edu, rapaport(a)cs.buffalo.edu Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS THE MONIST An International Quarterly Journal of General Philosophical Inquiry Edited by Barry Smith http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/Publications/Monet/ CALL FOR PAPERS THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS Deadline for submissions: July 2000 Advisory Editor: Dan Sperber (CREA, Paris) mailto:sperber@poly.polytechnique.fr Both in the psychological and in the social sciences, the notion of representation plays a major role. But how are the psychological notion of a mental representation and the sociological notion of a collective or cultural representation related? While there has been a naturalistic turn in cognitive science, proposals for the naturalization of mental representations have had little or no impact on the social sciences. This may be due in part to the fact that these naturalistic proposals typically focus on the individual cognizer. Yet, a large proportion of the mental representations of a human individual are, in fact, mere individual versions of representations widely distributed in human groups. By embracing the hypothesis that populations of representations (somewhat like populations of bacteria or viruses) are hosted by human populations, it becomes possible to apply to the distribution and evolution of mental representations models derived from epidemiology, population genetics, and evolutionary theory. Cultural representations are then seen as strains of mental representations of very similar content widely distributed across a population. To approach cultural representations in this way is to look for the causal explanation of macro-scale cultural phenomena in the micro-processes of cognition and transmission. It is to engage in a kind of epidemiology of ideas. Philosophers, biologists, and anthropologists have developed a variety of such epidemiological or evolutionary models, with particular application to cultural diffusion and to the history and philosophy of science. Both philosophers and social scientists with a serious interest in philosophy are invited to contribute papers on these and related topics. ______________________________________ Department of Philosophy 611 Baldy Hall University at Buffalo 716 633 2041 Buffalo NY 14260 - 1010 fax: 716 645 6139 http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/pns-list Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: jury spam justifiable?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At 12:35 AM 12/26/98 -0000, HyperReal-Anon wrote: >>And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's >>for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how >>crypto may help end spam. > >Its not stealing because only the Govt can identify crimes. And they >haven't. No, it's stealing. The government doesn't call the Waco incident murder, but that doesn't make it okay. >Legal Junk mail doesn't steal time? Legal Solicitors' phone calls don't >steal? Taxes don't steal? Courtroom injustice isn't a theft of rights? 1) Yes, but at least the person sending it paid for it. It doesn't consume any resources from the recipient, other than mailbox space which the government claims it owns anyway. The postal service has to store and deliver it, but they got paid for it. When you get it, you're perfectly free to cram it back in the outgoing mail slot like I do. 2) They steal time and they're very annoying, but they don't steal money per se. If they're long distance the caller pays for it. Most people are annoyed by these. The anti-phone-soliciting action is to never buy from those companies. 3) Taxes are theft at the point of a gun. You won't find much argument about that here. There will be argument when it comes to the complete elimination of taxes because that generally means the almost complete elimination of services. 4) Of course it is. Just because all four of those things are legal in one way or another doesn't mean that we should support it. I can walk outside and insult random people to their face, but that dosen't mean I should. Just because you *can* do something and you have some reason to do something doesn't mean that you *should* do it, particularly if there are better ways. > >>Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to >>alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. > >The message must be phrased correctly. The phrasing has nothing to do with it. The method of delivery does. > >>While you're spamming, >>maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. > >Who mentioned any mailing list? This would be a private matter. Apparently this is beyond your comprehension, so I'll explain it in explicit terms. You will likely direct people to FIJA. First off, when you send the spam FIJA and their upstream sites are going to get all sorts of complaints, and rightly so. The site it originates from will also get flooded. Assuming FIJA is still online a few hours later, they will probably wind up on spam block lists. If you spam through anonymous remailers, they'll wind up on spam blocking lists all over the place. If you falsify an origin address, it will also get flooded with complaints. Even mentioning FIJA is going to get them flooded with complaints. You also make the mistake of assuming that most people read spam. They don't. It just annoys them. If you spam through anonymous remailers, you further the theories of some people that they are simply abuse havens. This is not a positive thing for the remailers. The Cypherpunks are associated with the remailers, so it isn't a positive thing for us either, even though we'll only be implicated several steps down. >>After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm >>your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking >>for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's >>eliminate privacy rights. > >Alls fair in love and war. If such tactics are fair, then why are we worrying about distributing FIJA literature? The government has our best interests at heart, after all. Whatever. >>The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and > >The sheeple who haven't figured out how to filter spam are the ones >most in need of education. Do it for the children. For the future >generations. The best thing to do "for the children" is to kick the clueless masses off the Internet and turn it back into the academic area it used to be. Good has come out of the commercialization of the Internet, but by no means does it outweigh the bad. The best thing to do "for future generations" is to revoke the voting rights of welfare maggots. I don't see it happening very soon. >The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good to do nothing. Or for good to use the means of the evil to express their good ideas, in the process becoming the very thing they are fighting against. >Or just carry on with the same old same old, if that's what makes you feel >better. Best not to make waves, after all. Might scare the horses. Make a web site. Put it in your signature. Have others put it in their signatures. Have people link to it from their pages. Advertise in *appropriate* forums in appropriate manners. It's threads like this that make me wonder what it really means to be a Cypherpunk today. If the Cypherpunks (in the democratic sense) actually support this, it is a sad day indeed. As far as I'm concerned, go ahead and spam. You'll probably make FIJA look like idiots, get some anonymous remailer sites shut down if you spam through them, screw over any site even remotely mentioned in the spam, get us blasted all over the abuse forums because it has been discussed here recently, and accomplish the exact opposite of our goals. But go ahead if that's what makes you feel better.

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Y2K OFFICIALS CONVENE, CONFESS
by Pallas Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Attendees of a meeting convened by the United Nations confirmed that while central banking and telecommunications systems in many countries are making progress toward Y2K compliance, many other necessary systems still need help. Those include electrical power systems, global shipping systems, the linkages between telecommunications systems, and SWIFT, a system for exchanging financial information. The U.N. meeting was the first time top Y2K officials were brought together. "One of the goals of this meeting is to identify the senior executives who are dealing with the problem," says the chairman of the U.S. President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion. "We want the delegates to go home with a knowledge of faces and with agreements on going forward. We don't have time to go through normal diplomatic channels." More than 100 officials attended the meeting. (TechWeb 14 Dec 98) #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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How to Spot a Government Infiltrator
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How to Spot a Government Infiltrator by Mike Johnson Those who have been studying the stories released to the media these days about the arrests of various different people within the militia movement will doubtlessly have noted that government infiltrators are usually involved. This should make people nervous. And rightly so. Our normal view of government is that the only people who should have to worry about what the government is up to are people who are breaking the law. As the vast majority of constitutional militia units are composed of people who are of good character and don't go around breaking the law to begin with, they might feel that they should have little to worry about from the government. Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case. The government appears to be going all out to discredit the constitutional militia movement in this country. This effort on the part of the government does include the use of government agents to infiltrate militia units and cause as many problems, hate and discontent as they possibly can. In many instances, these government agents may not be readily apparent as to who and what they are. Some of these people may have had extensive experience in working undercover operations and may not make some of the more stupid mistakes. There are a variety of different roles that such government operatives may play. The first is that they may simply act as a mole. They will do everything anybody else in the unit does, and do nothing at all to call undue attention to themselves. However, they will relay everything that goes on within the unit to their handlers. About the only indication a unit may have that they have been infiltrated by a mole may be that they can't seem to be able to keep anything a secret. This type of role is the most difficult for a unit to detect and deal with. Which is also possibly why most of the spy novels that get written deal with various different ways to smoke out moles. While I wouldn't suggest that anybody try a technique for which the only source of documentation is a work of fiction, it is an indication of just how obnoxious this type of agent could be to deal with. Another role that a government agent might play may be that of a dissipator. A dissipator is one who tries to redirect the course and energy of a unit in ways which will cause it to accomplish nothing of any importance. They may also act so as to break a unit up by emphasizing differences, disagreements and personality clashes between unit members. Given that the people who are attracted to the constitutionalist militia movement usually tend to be strong willed and opinionated people to begin with, such an agent may find that his task is somewhat easier than it might be if he were working with other groups. Unit members should simply be encouraged not to take things personally, be aware that there will be honest differences of opinion between the members of the unit, and to be wary of somebody who does try to take everything personally, or set up cliques within the unit. The final role which will be discussed is that of the agent provocateur. Such an agent infiltrates a unit and tries to get the members of the unit to actually commit crimes, or make it look like they are actually planning to commit crimes. One should also bear in mind that a government agent is not going to be confined to operating within any one of the roles that have been discussed, and may likely mix and match as they feel best. However, the role that has received the highest profile in government operations these days is that of the agent provocateur. That is largely because the results of an operation conducted by an agent provocateur or two make for good propaganda when the media gets hold of it. The resultant publicity given to the arrests and the charges gets used to brand everybody in the entire movement as a criminal. The fact that the entire thing was set up by someone in the employ of the government isn't going to be mentioned at all by the mainstream media. For those who haven't caught on by now, your antenna should start to quiver in the presence of any one, or especially a combination of the following behaviors/patterns demonstrated by a unit member: (1) Wants to make bombs. (2) Wants to get everybody else to make bombs. (3) Wants people to buy/store large quantities of substances which could be used for explosives manufacture. (4) Fanatic about obtaining fully automatic weapons, without benefit of Class III license. (5) No obvious means of support, especially if they have lots of money to throw around. (6) Auto license tag changed on an irregular basis. (7) Encourages people to plan/do stupid things (raid armories, blow up office buildings, etc.) (8) Some groups can get auto tags run. They should be especially suspicious of anybody whose auto tag turns up a complete blank when run. (9) In our case, the guy was absolutely paranoid about his car being out of either his sight or his "wife's" sight for even a trivial amount of time. (10) Person claims to have a military background that they do not have. One individual claimed to be former Special Forces, but was found to be ignorant of some of the things that he should have known when quizzed by people who were former Special Forces. Depending on the level of trust that the members of your group have with each other, it might be a good idea to request to see the DD-214s of anybody claiming to have a military background. (11) One of your members has taken effective action to expose or block activities of the police or government preventing the expansion of or preservation of government power to control people and/or invade the privacy of the people. (12) One of your members (a) has an FFL; or (b) is involved in selling at gun shows; or (c) Is involved in promoting gun shows. Arguably the best way to deal with people who meet criteria 1-10 is simply to invite them to leave the unit. As Starr and McCranie found out, trying to turn them in will do no good at all, so the next best bet is to try to get them to leave. Failing that, disband unit, start again from scratch with people you can trust after sufficient elapsed time. Given the way things are going right now, those who have not joined up with public units may want to consider forming small closed units with just a small group of people that they have known for a long time and that they trust. For persons in 11, and 12: Do your best to be sure the goons cannot find a pretext as that is what they often work from. (*) Bill Albert of the Michigan Militia contributed to the list of items to look for and the discussion which follows it.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<http://www2.clinet.fi/~msihvo/files/crossbows.html> "If you don't learn how to beat your plowshares into swords before they outlaw swords, then you sure as HELL ought to learn before they outlaw plowshares too. " --Chuck Hammill #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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Posse Comitatus
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<http://www.oz.net/~veils/veilsv2n1/politics.html> The Military's Growing Involvement In Domestic Law Enforcement For more than a century the U.S. military has been banned from involvement in routine domestic law enforcement. This tradition of separating the role of national defense from domestic law enforcement has it's origins in the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. This law prohibits the army from being involved in domestic arrests, or in searches and seizures. This ban was later extended to the other services. It was passed in response to abuses committed by occupation troops in the South after the Civil War. This long tradition, which has helped to insure liberty and democracy for Americans, was quietly abandoned in 1989 when Congress and the Bush administration ordered the military into the "war on drugs". Since then the Pentagon has spent more than $7 billion on counter-drug activities, using tens of thousands of active duty and reserve personnel. Active duty units are primarily used to monitor and patrol for drug smuggling activity using sophisticated surveillance and communication systems. These units are assisted by thousands of National Guard troops whose activities are not normally restrained by the Posse Comitatus legislation. This allows them to perform routine police activities such as inspecting cargo, analyzing intelligence, and translating wiretapped conversations. The military's involvement in domestic policing activities has now been institutionalized and is being coordinated in the Defense Department by the Joint Task Force Six (JTF-6). Supporter of using the military in drug enforcement activities argue that drug use threatens the country economically and socially. Some military commanders see counter-drug operations as providing troops with useful training. While law enforcement officials see it as an opportunity to benefit from sophisticated surveillance and communication systems that they wouldn't normally have access to. Opponents of giving the military domestic law enforcement responsibilities and powers remind supporter of the abuses by troops that originally lead to passage of the Posse Comitatus legislation. They also point out that the military's involvement in drug enforcement efforts haven't had any discernible impact on the availability of drugs in the United States; so why take the risk of losing our liberties when we gain nothing in return. People need to ask themselves where the movement to involve the military in domestic policing activities is going to stop. Are Somalia, Hati, and Bosnia simply peacekeeping activities, or are they being used to train U.S. troops for the near future when they will be patrolling the streets of the United States as they now patrol Bosnia. #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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No Subject
by DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Internet is slowing China's efforts to maintain control To eliminate political opposition by the China Democratic Party, Chinese authorities are putting prominent dissidents on trial for "inciting the overthrow of state power," but the Internet is making it difficult for them to accomplish their goal. The Washington, D.C.-based electronic magazine VIP Reference is a widely-used news source and network for dissident activities. Boston University professor Merle Goldman says, "It was relatively easy for the authorities to get rid of Democracy Walls in Beijing and in other cities in 1979, but it is virtually impossible to close down the use of the Internet as a means of political communication." (Washington Post 18 Dec 98) <http://www.ifcss.org/ftp-pub/org/dck/> #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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[g8hxe@zetnet.co.uk: [WUN] MAR: MILLENIUM BUG]
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Forwarded message from Keith Haywood <g8hxe(a)zetnet.co.uk> ----- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 12:19:37 GMT Cc: keith.haywood(a)icl.com Hi all, I caught the following NAVTEX intercepts last night and thought they may be of interest to others, all were received on 518KHz. They are being repeated frequently be all the U/K stations and the Netherlands Coastguard, and similar messages are being broadcast by some of the Scandinavian stations. --- log opened Fri Dec 25 1998 00:00:20 UTC --- 05:31:06 UTC ZCZC OB07 05:33:09 UTC PORTPATRICKRADIO 05:33:43 UTC ZCZC OA40 05:33:46 UTC NAVAREA ONE 533 05:33:48 UTC YEAR 2000 AND MILLENIUM BUG. 05:33:54 UTC 1ST JAN 1999 IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL CRITICAL DATES THROUGH 05:34:05 UTC 1999 AND 2000 WHEN SOME ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS MAY FAIL DUE TO 05:34:16 UTC THEIR INABILITY TO PROCESS THE DATE. SUCH SYSTEMS INCLUDE 05:34:27 UTC AUTOMATION AND SAFETY SYSTEMS WHOSE FAILURE MAY RESULT IN 05:34:38 UTC LOSS OF POWER, STEERING OR MALFUNCTIONING OF NAVIGATIONAL 05:34:45 UTC OR COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT. 05:34:50 UTC MASTERS ARE ADVISED TO CONSIDER CONTINGENCY PLANS IN 05:34:56 UTC PREPARATION FOR POSSIBLE FAILURE, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT OF THE 05:35:07 UTC OPERATIONAL PROGRAMME OF THE SHIP. 05:35:09 UTC GUIDANCE ON THE RISKS AND PRECAUTIONARY ACTION, HAS BEEN 05:35:20 UTC PUBLISHED BY THE INTERNATIONAL MARITIME ORGANISATION AS 05:35:31 UTC MSC/CIRC.868, 'ADDRESSING THE YEAR 2000 PROBLEM', AND AS AS A 05:35:42 UTC CORRECTION TO ALL VOLUMES OF THE UKHO ADMIRALTY LIST OF RADIO SIGNALS. 05:35:49 UTC CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 012359Z JAN 99. 05:35:54 UTC NNNN 07:52:24 UTC ZCZC PA47 07:52:36 UTC NETHERLANDS COASTGUARD 07:52:40 UTC NAVIGATIONALWARNING NR 47 250730UTC DEC 07:52:46 UTC EQUIPMENT FAILURE ONBOARD AND ASHORE 07:52:51 UTC DUE TO THE YEAR 2000 PROBLEM: 07:52:56 UTC SHIPPING SHOUZD BEWARE THAT ON THE 07:53:01 UTC FOLLOWING DATES PROBLEMS MAY OCCUR 07:53:06 UTC ONBOARD IN ENGINES, MACHINERY, CONTROL 07:53:12 UTC AND MONITORING, COMPUTER, NAVIGATION 07:53:18 UTC AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT, 07:53:22 UTC DETECTION, ALARM AND OTHER SYSTEMS. 07:53:28 UTC SIMILAR PROBLEMS MAY OCCUR ASHORE 07:53:33 UTC AND MIGHT HAMPER NAVIGATION AND 07:53:38 UTC COMMUNICATION POSSIBILITIES 07:53:42 UTC FOR SHIPPING. DATES: 07:53:45 UTC 01-01-1999 , 09-09-1999 07:53:49 UTC 01-01-2000 , 29-02-2000, 01-03-2000 07:53:54 UTC 31-12-2000 , 01-01-2001, 01-03-2001 07:53:59 UTC SHIPPING IS URGENTLY ADVISED TO 07:54:04 UTC NAVIGATE WITH EXTREME CAUTION ON 07:54:09 UTC THE AFOREMENTIONED DATES AND TO 07:54:13 UTC TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS WHERR 07:54:18 UTC POSSIBLE. 07:54:20 UTC CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 012359UTC JAN 99 07:54:25 UTC NNNN Keith Haywood G8HXE Manchester U/K. --- The Worldwide UTE News (WUN) mailing list. WUN is a non-profit, dues-free club established in 1995 to share information on shortwave utilities. For more information: http://www.gem.net/~berri/wun/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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Zero-Knowledge Freedom AnonymousIP Whitepaper
by Austin Hill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Zero-Knowledge has put up a draft of a whitepaper explaining the technical details of it's coming Freedom Internet Privacy system. The paper discusses the technical details of our AnonymousIP protocol and our Pseudonymous E-mail System. This is an early draft and comments/questions are appreciated. People familiar with Mixmaster, PipeNet, Cypherpunk Remailers and Onion Routing will find this whitepaper to address many of the same problems with regards to Internet Anonymity & Privacy. The paper is available at http://www.zks.net/products/whitepapers.asp Thanks, Austin _________________________________________________________________________ Austin Hill Zero-Knowledge Systems Inc. President Montreal, Quebec Phone: 514.286.2636 Ext. 226 Fax: 514.286.2755 E-mail: austin(a)zks.net http://www.zks.net Zero Knowledge Systems Inc. - Nothing Personal PGP Fingerprints 2.6.3i = 3F 42 A2 0D AF 78 20 ED A2 BB AD BE 8B 40 5E 64 5.5.3i = 77 1E 62 21 B3 F0 EB C0 AA 6C 65 30 56 CA BA C4 94 26 EC 00 keys available at http://www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/pub_key_default.asp _________________________________________________________________________

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Car computer navigator forgets to mention ferry (fwd)
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- Max Inux <maxinux(a)openpgp.net> Hey Christy!!! KeyID 0x8907E9E5 Kinky Sex makes the world go round O R Strong crypto makes the world safe If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto Fingerprint(Photo Also): 259D 59F7 D98C CD73 1ACD 54Ea 6C43 4877 8907 E9E5 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 12:35:20 -0800 (PST) X-Loop: openpgp.net From: William Knowles <erehwon(a)kizmiaz.dis.org> To: DC-Stuff <dc-stuff(a)dis.org>, aaa-list(a)lists.netlink.co.uk Subject: Car computer navigator forgets to mention ferry POTSDAM, Germany (AP) [12.26.98] - A German couple out for a Christmas drive near Berlin ended up in a river - apparently because their luxury car's computer forgot to mention they had to wait for a ferry. The 57-year-old driver and his passenger were not injured in the accident, police said Saturday. Several companies sell computer navigators, some of which are attached to dashboards and serve as electronic road maps. Some offer traffic updates and Internet connections. The German couple was out driving Friday night when they came to a ferry crossing at the Havel River in Caputh, six miles from Berlin. That information, however, was never stored in the satellite steered navigation system they were using, police said. The driver kept going straight in the dark, expecting a bridge, and ended up in the water. River traffic was stopped for two hours while the car was fished out about 13 feet from the river bank. ``You can't always blindly rely on technology,'' a coast guard police officer said. == Some day, on the corporate balance sheet, there will be an entry which reads, "Information"; for in most cases the information is more valuable than the hardware which processes it. -- Grace Murray Hopper == http://www.dis.org/erehwon/

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Re: Zero-Knowledge Freedom AnonymousIP Whitepaper
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Zero-Knowledge has put up a draft of a whitepaper explaining the technical > details of it's coming Freedom Internet Privacy system. > > The paper discusses the technical details of our AnonymousIP protocol and > our Pseudonymous E-mail System. > > This is an early draft and comments/questions are appreciated. Have algorithms been chosen? If I understand right, letting different users use different algos would make some users' messages look different from others while bouncing around in the network. I don't think anyone even suspects 3DES and a KEA cognate would fail. The "topologically close" tradeoff (i.e, a gain in performance for an unmeasured loss in security) seems to be more exploit-bait than optimization; it might be wiser not to enable this part of automatic route selection by default unless/until its effects on security are investigated more thoroughly. At least give me a while to make an attack on it. :) > > People familiar with Mixmaster, PipeNet, Cypherpunk Remailers and Onion > Routing will find this whitepaper to address many of the same problems with > regards to Internet Anonymity & Privacy. > > The paper is available at http://www.zks.net/products/whitepapers.asp > > Thanks, > > Austin > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Austin Hill Zero-Knowledge Systems Inc. > President Montreal, Quebec > Phone: 514.286.2636 Ext. 226 Fax: 514.286.2755 > E-mail: austin(a)zks.net http://www.zks.net > > Zero Knowledge Systems Inc. - Nothing Personal > > PGP Fingerprints > 2.6.3i = 3F 42 A2 0D AF 78 20 ED A2 BB AD BE 8B 40 5E 64 > 5.5.3i = 77 1E 62 21 B3 F0 EB C0 AA 6C 65 30 56 CA BA C4 94 26 EC 00 > keys available at > http://www.nai.com/products/security/public_keys/pub_key_default.asp > _________________________________________________________________________

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ABCReport:1st Aphrodisiac Drug Appr
by clinical27a＠usm.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The announcement of this scientific breakthrough, has set off a media fire-storm. In the last few days, the remarkable qualities of Androstenone Pheromones have been featured in every major publication, newspaper, national magazine, and television magazine. >From 20/20, Hard Copy, and Dateline NBC, to the N.Y. Times, and the American Journal of Modern Medicine. Several independent research institutes have concluded studies on the benefits of Androstenone (You may have heard about the most recent study on CNN.) TO READ MORE ABOUT THIS REVOLUTIONARY MEDICAL DISCOVERY and the CNN REPORT go to our new sites at : http://www.angelfire.com/on/aphrod7501/ **** OR **** http://www.nettaxi.com/citizens/aphrod7501

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David Angell and html
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 12/27/98 4:13 PM John Young I went to http://www.page1book.com this morning looking for books on HLML. I asked the clerk what was a good book on html. The clerk pointed me to HTML 4 Unleashed, second edition, by Rick Darnell, et al. A guy standing next to me volunteered that he wrote books on computing. He advised getting a reference book, looking at examples on Internet, RESEARCH the code, then modify the RESEARCHED the code. He introduced himself. David Angell. ISDN for Dummies (--For Dummies) ~ Usually ships in 2-3 days David Angell / Paperback / Published 1996 Our Price: $19.99 ~ You Save: $5.00 (20%) http://www.amazon.com He was visiting his mother who lives in abq. Angell now lives in Austin TOO. I am on the net to download THE [your?] code at http://jya.com/crypto.htm. To RESEARCH it, of course. I am experimenting with <BODY BACKGROUND="devil2.jpg"> for background for Pro Se Litigation with the US Federal Government. http://www.jya.com/nsasuit.txt Keep a good sense of humor. And up-wind too, of course. http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html I CONTINUE to recall Bob Sernas joke. Q What is the difference between a terrorist and a woman with pms? A You can negotiate with a terrorist. We got to get this UNFORTUNATE MATTER settled BEFORE IT GETS WORSE! Later bill Thursday 12/10/98 5:08 PM J Kevin O'Brien, Chief Freedom of Information-Privacy Act Section Office of Public Affairs U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington D. C. 20535 O'Brien I received your form letter dated DEC 02 1998. YES, I want the information! I return your completed form. Sandia assigned me to break electronic locks for the FBI/ERF. SSA Mike Uttaro was my direct contact. His boss was SSA Mike McDevitt. The FBI is breaking the law under the veil of classification abuse. I may write another article --- False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm --- Counterfeiting Wiegand Wire Access Credentials Bill Payne October 16,1996 Abstract Wiegand wire access credentials are easy and inexpensive to counterfeit. Access Control & Security Systems Integration magazine, October 1996 [http://www/securitysolutions.com] published the article, Wiegand technology stands the test of time by PAUL J. BODELL, page 12 Many card and reader manufacturers offer Wiegand (pronounced wee-gand) output. However, only three companies in the world make Wiegand readers. Sensor Engineering of Hamden Conn., holds the patent for Wiegand, and Sensor has licensed Cardkey of Simi Valley, Calif., and Doduco of Pforzheim, Germany, to manufacture Wiegand cards and readers. ... A Wiegand output reader is not the same thing as a Wiegand reader, and it is important to understand the differences. In brief, Wiegand reader use the Wiegand effect to translate card information around the patented Wiegand effect in which a segment of a specially treated wire generates an electronic pulse when subjected to a specific magnetic field. If the pulse is generated when the wire is near a pick-up coil, the pulse can be detected by a circuit. Lining up several rows of wires and passing them by a cold would generate a series of pulses. Lining up two rows of wires - calling on row "zero bits" and the other "one bits" - and passing them by two different coils would generate two series of pulses, or data bits. These data bits can then be interpreted as binary data and used to control other devices. If you seal the coils in a rugged housing with properly placed magnets, and LED and some simple circuitry, you have a Wiegand reader. Carefully laminate the special wires in vinyl, and artwork, and hot-stamp a number on the vinyl, and you have a Wiegand card. IN THE BEGINNING Wiegand was first to introduce to the access control market in the late 1970s. It was immediately successful because it filled the need for durable, secure card and reader technology. Embedded in the cards, Wiegand wires cannot be altered or duplicated. ... Bodell's Last statement is incorrect. Tasks for EASILY counterfeiting Wiegand wire cards are 1 Locate the wires inside the card to read the 0s and 1s. 2 Build an ACCEPTABLE copy of the card. Bodell's clear explanation of the working of a Wiegand card can be visualized zero row | | | one row | | binary 0 1 0 0 1 representation Solutions to Task 1 A X-ray the card B MAGNI VIEW FILM, Mylar film reads magnetic fields ... Edmunds Scientific Company, catalog 16N1, page 205, C33,447 $11.75 is placed over the top of the Wiegand card. COW MAGNET, Cow magnetics allow farmers to trap metal in the stomachs of their cows. Edmunds, page 204, C31,101 $10.75 is placed under the card. Location of the wires is easily seen on the green film. Mark the position of the wires with a pen. Next chop the card vertically using a shear into about 80/1000s paper-match-sized strips. Don't worry about cutting a wire or two. Note that a 0 has the pen mark to the top. A 1 has the pen mark at the bottom. Take a business card and layout the "paper match"-like strips to counterfeit the card number desired. Don't worry about spacing. Wiegand output is self-clocking! Tape the "paper-match - like" strips to the business card. Only the FUNCTION of the card needs to be reproduced! History Breaking electronic locks was done as "work for others" at Sandia National Laboratories beginning in 1992 funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation/Engineering Research Facility, Quantico, VA. The FBI opined that this work was SECRET/NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION. Details of the consequences of this work are covered in Fired Worker File Lawsuit Against Sandia Specialist Says He Balked When Lab Sought Electronic Picklock Software, Albuquer Journal, Sunday April 25, 1993 State-sanctioned paranoia, EE Times, January 22, 1996 One man's battle, EE Times, March 22, 1994 Damn the torpedoes, EE Times, June 6, 1994 Protecting properly classified info, EE Times, April 11, 1994 DOE to scrutinize fairness in old whistle-blower cases, Albuquerque Tribune, Nov 7 1995 DOE boss accelerates whistle-blower protection, Albuquerque Tribune, March 27, 1996 DOE doesn't plan to compensate 'old' whistle-blowers with money, Albuquerque Tribune September 27, 199 --- Here is one of my previous articles. http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html http://www.aci.net/kalliste/bw1 We should get this settled before IT GETS WORSE. Black and white is an example of WORSE. bill payne

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Mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu Not Propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone else experienced posts sent via the anon.lcs.mit.edu mail2news gateway not propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet's news servers? I've made a couple of posts, both anonymously and non-anonymously via that gateway, and they haven't been showing up at CIS/Sprynet. Yet they've been archived on Dejanews and replies to them from users on other servers have shown up. Is this a propagation problem, or are Compuserve and Sprynet blocking posts from that gateway?

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Release Information
by info 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear subscriber, We are glad to inform you that "The Aggressor PRO V1.0" and "The Aggressor NTT v1.0" is now released. You may download Trial version of The Aggressor PRO from http://www.aggressor.net. * Brief list of features : - Advanced Network Sniffing Module The Aggressor PRO entitles you to monitor the network traffic on your local network. This feature enables you to read every incoming and outgoing email, monitor web access of employees or monitor irc or icq messages, it has filtering mechanism to ease viewing connections and connection logging feature for autosaving the connections and view them later. - Intrusion Detection The Aggressor's beholder module controls all connections/packets between your local network and internet, analyses incoming and outgoing packets, detects and logs hostile actions like portscanning, denial of service attacks or exploit attacks, logs them and alerts the administrator when such an attempt occurs. - Blocking With The Aggressor, you can block service usage and server access by making rulesets. Network monitoring options allow the system administrator to ban sites, services, block connections, ban keywords and more. - Network Vulnerability Scanner / Informator This module enables you to test your network against hacker attacks. With its live plugin support, you will be able to test your network against latest security vulnerabilities by downloading related plugin file from our website. We also have Plugin SDK (for Delphi and Visual C) for you to develop your own plugin files for The Aggressor. - Network Administration Tools. The Aggressor has most important internet tools which are useful for network administration such as DNS Scanner, Portscanner, Finger, Ident, Whois, Ping, Traceroute. With The Aggressor, you will not need use any internetworking tools from any other sources. Requirements : Windows NT 4.0 ( Installed Internet Explorer 4 for HTML Filter ) Ethernet Connection (or another 802.3 frame compatible device) Pentium 200 MMX (Pentium II 266 Recommended) 32 Mb Ram (Additional ram for high network traffic (64+) ) 10 Mb Disk space (Additional disk space for connection / observer logging) You can obtain detailed information about our product from http://www.aggressor.net Please note that this is a release notification email you can send email to list-request(a)aggressor.net with subject "UNSUBSCRIBE" to remove yourself from our notify list . Regards Korhan KAYA AGIS Corporation http://www.aggressor.net (+90)(212) 212-3427

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Y2K War Games & Martial Law articles
by Carol Moore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Below are two recent articles to remind libertarians,et al that the feds are already planning "war games" in June for potential problems in year 2000 as well as discussing martial law. (All planned by the same President, Attorney General, ATF/FBI, and military who gave us Waco, Iraq sanctions, and the Sudan and Iraq bombings.) Carol in D.C. http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/community-y2k.html (PS. Demand Clinton the rapist (see http://www.newsmax.com) resign. 202-456-1111 or President(a)whitehouse.gov) (A good source for daily mainstream press articles on Y2K is: http://www.year2000.com/articles/articles) ----------- 12-24-98 Government plans war games to battle Millennium Bug By Lisa Hoffman / Scripps Howard News Service WASHINGTON -- The federal government is gearing up for top-level war games designed to grapple with possible calamities the "millennium bug" might wreak in the United States and abroad. The "tabletop exercise," as it's being called, will mark the first time since the end of the Cold War that Cabinet secretaries have assembled to plot responses to what could be a nationwide crisis. Clinton administration officials say they expect any disruptions that might result from computer confusion when 2000 dawns will be minor. But they want to make sure the government is prepared should that forecast be wrong. Planning for the war games, tentatively scheduled for June, is in its early stages, so officials can't say which Cabinet secretaries will take part, how long the exercises will last or what mock disaster scenarios the leaders will be wrestling with. According to administration officials, those almost certain to participate are Defense Secretary William Cohen, Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, Attorney General Janet Reno, Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater and Jamie Lee Witt, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is taking a lead role in preparing for any year 2000, or Y2K, glitches. Governments, from the city and county level up, are racing to make sure their tens of thousands of vital systems will not fall prey to a programming problem that might cause computers to misinterpret the turn of the century on Jan. 1, 2000, and shut down or otherwise fail. Given the proliferation of computer chips in everything from traffic signals to medical devices to air traffic control towers, significant disruptions in vital services are at least theoretically possible. The administration wants to be able to respond rapidly if those occur. One major focus of the war games is expected to be on how to coordinate a response. At least one other high-level war game is slated at the Pentagon, where the top brass along with Cohen will gather to brainstorm sometime between March and the national exercise in June, according to Pentagon officials. Their focus won't be so much on handling defense computer foul-ups -- for which a massive preparatory fix now is underway -- as on how the armed forces might be able to help communities in which they are based cope with a crisis, particularly those overseas. If, for instance, the electrical power fails in Ramstein, Germany, troops at the U.S. Air Force Base there could provide generators to help restore the power, officials said. (Lisa Hoffman covers military affairs for Scripps Howard News Service. E-mail hoffmanl(at)shns.com.) ---------------- Found at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19981221_xex_un_plans_glo.shtml MONDAY DECEMBER 211998 PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO U.N. plans for global chaos Bennett says no plans in U.S. for martial law Editor's note: This is the second of a two-part series on the Y2K millennium bug based on an exclusive interview with Sen. Robert Bennett, R-UT, and the chairman of the Senate committee investigating the technology problem. By David M. Bresnahan © 1998, WorldNetDaily.com SALT LAKE CITY, UT -- As preparations for widespread global panic and disorder over the Y2K crisis begin at the United Nations, the U.S. senator considered the most knowledgeable about the millennium bug, assures the United States does not have plans in place for martial law. Representatives from 130 nations met in a closed-door meeting Friday to discuss the Y2K crisis and the predicted problems that will occur around the world. The use of SWAT teams and martial law are being planned, according to a source present for the meeting at the U.N. Many underdeveloped nations expressed concern because they have had no ability to prepare for the Y2K problems, and many other smaller nations are far behind where they should be, the source told WorldNetDaily. The discussions at the meeting turned to how to handle public panic and unrest that is expected to result on January 1, 2000, if the Y2K computer bug shuts down power, communications, and transportation. The meeting was only the first of many more to come. Eventually, a formal request may be made to the U.N. for coordinated military action, according to the source. Representatives in the meetings openly expressed their fears of unrest, and voiced a need for martial law, and the use of military and police SWAT teams. Meanwhile, Bennett, chairman of the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem, has been actively sounding the alarm about domestic problems that may result because of the computer glitch. But he says martial law is a minimal threat in the U.S. "I'm not one of those who think that Bill Clinton will automatically, or in some diabolical way, try to manipulate this problem (Y2K) to impose improper force on anybody," he stated. "I just don't see any indications of that. Until I see some suggestion that that really is happening I won't believe that it's under consideration." Bennett did acknowledge that Canada is formulating plans to initiate martial law because of Y2K. "The Canadian armed forces are organized very differently than American armed forces," explained Bennett. "We don't have the provision to turn out the military from the Pentagon in a presidential declaration of martial law like the Canadians do." Although Bennett has been personally speaking out about the reality of the problems that could result from the Y2K bug, he has begun to tone down his predictions. He blames some of the fear being generated about the problem on businesses selling survival and preparedness supplies. "There's no question but that some of the hysteria is being whipped up by people who have products to sell," Bennett told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview. "At the same time, there are people who have legitimate products to sell that could have an impact on the Y2K problem, who have every right to talk about the problem in their legitimate marketing efforts." "Sometimes the lines between those two get blurred, but I don't want to be party to helping sell any particular product or service. That's not the appropriate thing for a United States senator or a United States Senate committee to do." Bennett was critical of most government agencies and private businesses for not working on the problem sooner. He said the Social Security Administration is to be commended for getting an early start, but most others failed to work on the problem soon enough to solve it in time. The total cost to fix the Y2K bug is expected to exceed $600 billion, with legal expenses in excess of $1 trillion, according to Bennett. Those numbers do not include estimates of lost business revenues, and corresponding loss of tax revenues. Potential damages and repairs are also not part of the estimates. Of all government agencies, Bennett said his greatest concerns are with the Defense Department. He said the Pentagon began work on the problem too late. Bennett listed the priorities of his committee as power, telecommunications and transportation. He explained that it will do little good for businesses to fix the Y2K problem within their company if they don't have power, communications, or transportation. "If there is no electricity, it doesn't matter whether your computer is Y2K compliant or not," said Bennett. "Your laptop batteries won't last long enough to solve all your problems." When Bennett first began spreading the alarm about Y2K, he stated that there was a 40 percent chance the nation's power grid would not function because of Y2K. "Now I think that 40 percent has shrunk down to single digits -- 5 percent, 3 percent -- pick your number, it doesn't really matter, it's a relatively small chance that the power grid will fail," said Bennett confidently. "I still think we will have brownouts," he added. "I don't know how long they will last. I don't know where they will hit, and I don't know how severe they will be. The very nature of the problem indicates that we cannot get through this with complete, absolute, 100 percent assurance, although there are people in power companies that are now telling me that's what we can depend on. "My own sense of the thing says, no, there's got to be some brownouts. There will be some interruptions, but the power grid will not fail. Don't go out and dig up your backyard and bury propane tanks, or go out and buy your very own generator, because I think we will have power." "I think the telecommunications system will work," predicted Bennett. "There will be individual exchanges or switching companies, or what have you, that will have problems. We won't know until we can test the whole system end to end. But there are enough heartening indications that things are going to be alright that leads me to believe that the telecommunications system will work." The nation's power grid is also dependent on a telecommunications system which enables all the various computers to communicate and keep the grid functioning. The telecommunications systems depend on the power grid to provide the necessary electricity. "If we have a breakdown in the transportation system, it could eventually shut down the economy by itself," said Bennett. "For example, if the trains don't work because the switching systems don't work, you can't get coal from coal mines on the trains to the power-generating plants, which means eventually you don't get any power and the power grid goes down and then the dominoes can fall in various directions." The most vulnerable transportation system which may be interrupted is maritime shipping, according to Bennett. "Getting oil out of foreign countries onto ships through customs with all the paper work that is involved with all large transoceanic shipments. And, of course, all of the paper work is controlled by computers," explained Bennett. Ships are computer-operated and must dock in ports that are also computer mechanized. Customs procedures are also dependent on computers to deal with the enormous amount of cargo coming into the country every day. "A breakdown (could occur) in that kind of transportation chain which depends not only on Y2K compliance in this country, but in many countries including the countries that license the ships, and the countries where the oil is produced," Bennett said. "I think the chances of a breakdown somewhere in that chain are probably higher than the single digits, and that could create some interesting and challenging economic difficulties." Bennett also took time to give advice to those who wish to determine how they may be impacted personally by the Y2K problem. Many people are planning to take their money out of banks prior to the start of the year 2000. Bennett is not personally concerned about access to his bank account. "You have every right to contact your institution, whether it's a bank or a credit union, and ask, 'Are you going to be Y2K compliant?' If you don't have the answer that you deserve, then take your money out," said Bennett. He said there will be individual banking institutions where checks will not clear and ATMs will fail. Some banks and ATMs will work, and others may not. "You have the responsibility to take care of your Year 2000 problem, just as your bank has the responsibility to take care of theirs, or just as Bill Clinton has the responsibility to take care of America's," he explained. Despite his own sometimes-dire warnings, Bennett says no one should have fear. "I think fear is too strong a word, but I think all of us should have some concern," he explained. "Concern enough to inform ourselves. You need to find out as much as you possibly can about what's really going to happen to you, and then make intelligent contingency plans." He advises talking to city, county, and state officials to determine if local government is prepared to continue to provide services in the year 2000. Bennett also advises that everyone should contact businesses they depend on for goods and services, and evaluate to what extent they will be impacted by Y2K. The task is complicated by the need to evaluate the entire chain of supplies. It is not enough ask your local grocery store if it is Y2K compliant. It must also be determined if the chain of supplies to the grocery store will be able to continue to deliver goods. "The contingency plan may be very minor, it may be non-existent," said Bennett. "You may say, 'In my job, with my employer, in my city, everything is going to be fine, I don't need to worry about anything.' "Or you may say, 'Where I live there is a 20 percent, 30 percent chance that the trucks might not be able to get to the supermarket where I buy food. I probably ought to have a little extra food. In my city the water purification plant is proving to be far more troublesome than it would be someplace else, and in my city I better have a supply of fresh water that can take me through while they're trying to get this taken care of.' "That's not fear," explained Bennett, "that's intelligent planning based on sound information. Everyone of us has to take the responsibility for gathering his or her own information and then making personal decisions.

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Mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu Not Propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 28 Dec 1998, Anonymous wrote: >Has anyone else experienced posts sent via the anon.lcs.mit.edu >mail2news gateway not propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet's news >servers? I've made a couple of posts, both anonymously and >non-anonymously via that gateway, and they haven't been showing up >at CIS/Sprynet. Yet they've been archived on Dejanews and replies >to them from users on other servers have shown up. > >Is this a propagation problem, or are Compuserve and Sprynet >blocking posts from that gateway? Hey! Stop abusing the anonymous remailers! Your identity isn't findable! It defeats the whole purpose of Anon! Fleaza!

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Friedman sings, part II.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.booknotes.org/transcripts/10086.htm This time it's for Brian Lamb's "Booknotes" show on CSPAN. The above is a transcript, about 60k. Cheers, RAH ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Anthrax Theatre II
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Performances of the award-winning "Anthrax Theatre" continue across the nation. Innovative variations on the original script are being demonstrated to test audiences, including stripping 200 Mervyn's shoppers naked, and forcing them to rinse themselves with laundry bleach. ----- POMONA, Calif. (AP) -- Hundreds of people were quarantined for hours inside a nightclub after a phony anthrax threat, at least the seventh such hoax in Southern California this month. No trace of the potentially deadly bacterium was found in preliminary tests, authorities said Sunday. A Los Angeles County hazardous materials team and the FBI's Domestic Terrorism Task Force were called to the Glass House club at 11:50 p.m. Saturday after a man called the Police Department and said ``a significant quantity'' of anthrax would be released into the air, police Lt. Gary Graham said. If inhaled and then left untreated, anthrax spores can cause respiratory failure and death within a week. About 800 people were kept inside the club for about four hours while the air-conditioning system was checked and samples taken for further study, Graham said. Clubgoers then were taken outside and given information on anthrax symptoms. They were then allowed to return to the club if they wished. Authorities had not immediately determined whether the threat was related to six others since the middle of the month. In each case, no evidence of anthrax was found: --On Dec. 14, a secretary at the Perris School District in Riverside County opened a letter that said, ``you've been exposed to anthrax.'' About 20 people were isolated and decontaminated. --On Dec. 17, an office building in the Westwood area of Los Angeles received a letter threatening exposure to anthrax. Nearly two dozen workers had to strip and go through a decontamination process. --On Dec. 18, a U.S. Bankruptcy Court in the Woodland Hills area was targeted and about 90 people underwent antibiotic treatment. --On Dec. 21, a telephoned threat emptied two Van Nuys courthouses and forced about 1,500 people into quarantine for several hours. --On Wednesday, the Chatsworth office of Time Warner Cable was evacuated after a threat. About 200 people had to leave their work stations. --On Thursday, Christmas Eve, a Mervyn's store in Palm Desert was the target of a hoax, and 200 people had to disrobe and were rinsed with a bleach solution. Anthrax hoaxes also have happened in Colorado, Kentucky, and Tennessee. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Hacking for Girlies and FBI news
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 12/28/98 9:27 AM John Young BUSINESS OUTLOOK, Albuquerque Journal Monday December 28, 1998 http://www.abqjournal.com/ Consultant feels heat from FBI By Aaron Baca Carolyn Meinel says she just can't win. Three months ago - and many times before and since - the East Mountain author and computer-security consultant was the target of a diatribe left by computer hackers who broke into and vandalized the New York Times' Web page, she says. Now, Meinel says she is suspected by the IBI as being one of the culprits in the New York Times computer hack. She says the FBI told her that she's not a suspect, but asked her to take a lie-detector test, which suggests she is "The last contact I had with them (the FBI) was about a month ago," Meinel said in a telephone interview with the Journal. "I don't think they would want me to take a test if they weren't trying to trip me tip up somehow so they could come back at me later." Meinel says she offered to assist the FBI man investigation of the incident because of her experience with hackers and her experience with those who took credit for that. back - HFG, or Hacking for Girlies. So far the FBI will not say if it suspects Meinel. Doug Beldon, a spokesman for the Albuquerque FBI office, said the FBI is investigating the incident But he said he couldn't comment about the investigation. The New York Times web page was attacked by a group claiming to be HFG in September. The group peppered the site with profanity and pornographic images. They also left hidden messages on the page directed at Meinel and others.. Meinel is known in the hacker community as the Happy Hacker She has written two editions of a book by the same title and helped found an online community about hacking. She has also written numerous articles on computer security, including a recent article for Scientific American. In all of her articles, Meinel is critical of some hackers for the damage they can cause. She says she promotes friendly hacking, which she compares to the tinkering or exploring shade-tree mechanics often engage in on their automobiles. The same group, HAG, is believed to have broken into the computers of Albuquerque Internet service provider Rt66 in August. In that attack, more than 1,400 credit card numbers belonging to subscribers were compromised. Meinel says she has been advised by her own lawyer to stay out of the case now. "There's a lot I Think I could have offered the FBI, Meinel says. but I think its wise not to say anthing now. I could get myself in trouble if I helped with this investigation now. --- I am reading about html, reading our sons web site code - which he got from another Moto employee - and experimenting by modifying it. I just downloaded your stats and table code. I studied you index.htm and cryptome pages a bit yesterday. Morales and I talked this morning. As soon as we get something working, then we will try to get others to help. Like Ashok Kaushal aka AK. We plan to give the Great Satan some MORE deservedly [http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html] REALLY BAD international press. Until, of course, we get the Great Satan to shape-up and get some of his messes SETTLED. ABQ FBI agents Kohl and Schum attempted to intimidate me once. US Marshals too. http://www.jya.com/whpscalia.htm On the second occasion ABQ FBI agents Kohl and Moore delivered US assistant attorney Gorrences letter to me. http://www.jya.com/whprjg.htm Moore apologized when Kohl handed me the letter. Nonetheless, this earned the instigators criminal complaint affidavits. http://www.jya.com/whpscalia.htm Kohl had on a black fanny pack. FBI/Engineering Research Facility Special Supervisory Agents [SSA] I worked with carry their guns in fanny packs. Holsters were too obvious the FBI told me. FBI SSAs also carry cell phones. They need to phone in to find out what to do next. Morales and I need picture of the Great Satan. But, of course, being law-abiding citizens, we dont want to infringe anyones registered trademark. Campbell soup did not sue Andy Warhol. Therefore we will give Underwood full credit if we decide to use it registered trademark to depict the Great Satan. Back to .vxd writing. I think I have to get win98 working today so I can run the 98ddk. The vmm.inc macro which provides access to Microsofts Windows Virtual Machine Manager does not work the Hazzah or Thielen and Woodruff device driver code. While I modified vmm.inc to expand without error, link 32 is giving an error on some of the segments declarations in the module definition file. Until I get a working example of Device Descriptor Block accessed in the protected mode, I am in a bit of trouble with my current conversion project. Sure wish we could get these UNFORTUNATE matters settled so that Morales and I could spend time on other constructive projects. Later bill Thursday 12/10/98 5:08 PM J Kevin O'Brien, Chief Freedom of Information-Privacy Act Section Office of Public Affairs U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington D. C. 20535 O'Brien I received your form letter dated DEC 02 1998. YES, I want the information! I return your completed form. Sandia assigned me to break electronic locks for the FBI/ERF. SSA Mike Uttaro was my direct contact. His boss was SSA Mike McDevitt. The FBI is breaking the law under the veil of classification abuse. I may write another article --- False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm --- Counterfeiting Wiegand Wire Access Credentials Bill Payne October 16,1996 Abstract Wiegand wire access credentials are easy and inexpensive to counterfeit. Access Control & Security Systems Integration magazine, October 1996 [http://www/securitysolutions.com] published the article, Wiegand technology stands the test of time by PAUL J. BODELL, page 12 Many card and reader manufacturers offer Wiegand (pronounced wee-gand) output. However, only three companies in the world make Wiegand readers. Sensor Engineering of Hamden Conn., holds the patent for Wiegand, and Sensor has licensed Cardkey of Simi Valley, Calif., and Doduco of Pforzheim, Germany, to manufacture Wiegand cards and readers. ... A Wiegand output reader is not the same thing as a Wiegand reader, and it is important to understand the differences. In brief, Wiegand reader use the Wiegand effect to translate card information around the patented Wiegand effect in which a segment of a specially treated wire generates an electronic pulse when subjected to a specific magnetic field. If the pulse is generated when the wire is near a pick-up coil, the pulse can be detected by a circuit. Lining up several rows of wires and passing them by a cold would generate a series of pulses. Lining up two rows of wires - calling on row "zero bits" and the other "one bits" - and passing them by two different coils would generate two series of pulses, or data bits. These data bits can then be interpreted as binary data and used to control other devices. If you seal the coils in a rugged housing with properly placed magnets, and LED and some simple circuitry, you have a Wiegand reader. Carefully laminate the special wires in vinyl, and artwork, and hot-stamp a number on the vinyl, and you have a Wiegand card. IN THE BEGINNING Wiegand was first to introduce to the access control market in the late 1970s. It was immediately successful because it filled the need for durable, secure card and reader technology. Embedded in the cards, Wiegand wires cannot be altered or duplicated. ... Bodell's Last statement is incorrect. Tasks for EASILY counterfeiting Wiegand wire cards are 1 Locate the wires inside the card to read the 0s and 1s. 2 Build an ACCEPTABLE copy of the card. Bodell's clear explanation of the working of a Wiegand card can be visualized zero row | | | one row | | binary 0 1 0 0 1 representation Solutions to Task 1 A X-ray the card B MAGNI VIEW FILM, Mylar film reads magnetic fields ... Edmunds Scientific Company, catalog 16N1, page 205, C33,447 $11.75 is placed over the top of the Wiegand card. COW MAGNET, Cow magnetics allow farmers to trap metal in the stomachs of their cows. Edmunds, page 204, C31,101 $10.75 is placed under the card. Location of the wires is easily seen on the green film. Mark the position of the wires with a pen. Next chop the card vertically using a shear into about 80/1000s paper-match-sized strips. Don't worry about cutting a wire or two. Note that a 0 has the pen mark to the top. A 1 has the pen mark at the bottom. Take a business card and layout the "paper match"-like strips to counterfeit the card number desired. Don't worry about spacing. Wiegand output is self-clocking! Tape the "paper-match - like" strips to the business card. Only the FUNCTION of the card needs to be reproduced! History Breaking electronic locks was done as "work for others" at Sandia National Laboratories beginning in 1992 funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation/Engineering Research Facility, Quantico, VA. The FBI opined that this work was SECRET/NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION. Details of the consequences of this work are covered in Fired Worker File Lawsuit Against Sandia Specialist Says He Balked When Lab Sought Electronic Picklock Software, Albuquer Journal, Sunday April 25, 1993 State-sanctioned paranoia, EE Times, January 22, 1996 One man's battle, EE Times, March 22, 1994 Damn the torpedoes, EE Times, June 6, 1994 Protecting properly classified info, EE Times, April 11, 1994 DOE to scrutinize fairness in old whistle-blower cases, Albuquerque Tribune, Nov 7 1995 DOE boss accelerates whistle-blower protection, Albuquerque Tribune, March 27, 1996 DOE doesn't plan to compensate 'old' whistle-blowers with money, Albuquerque Tribune September 27, 199 --- Here is one of my previous articles. http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html http://www.aci.net/kalliste/bw1 We should get this settled before IT GETS WORSE. Black and white is an example of WORSE. bill payne

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People With Honor
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:55:59 GMT To: "DaveNet World" <davenet-world(a)scripting.com> From: dave(a)scripting.com (DaveNet email) Subject: People With Honor Sender: <davenet-world(a)scripting.com> ------------------------------------- >From Scripting News... It's DaveNet! Released on 12/28/98; 9:55:55 AM PST ------------------------------------- Seasons Greetings DaveNet readers! I've been keeping up on the issues of impeachment, reading newspapers and websites, and considering ideas that have not been showing up in these places. I've also been talking with people and listening, and I think people in the US are overlooking something that we may not be able to ignore much longer. First, there is definitely a serious split in this country. Some people blame the Republicans for what happened, I've even heard people say they're so angry with the Republicans that they'll never vote Republican again. To them, I want to say, save some of your rage for Clinton. Understand that there are two sides here. Clinton screwed up, the Republicans responded, and Clinton did more, and on and on. How far has it gone? That's what I want to think about now, logically, precisely, and not emotionally or expressively. And I want to consider other points of view, especially those from outside the US. If we're ever going to work together again, there will have to be give on both sides, sooner or later. We'll have to see ourselves as one country, responsible for what we do, no matter what party you belong to or support. ***A tough question I was going to bag this piece, it's not worth the trouble, I said to myself, until I saw CBS's 60 Minutes last night, and listened to Andy Rooney talk about how far it's gone. He asked the same question I'm going to ask here. ***What happened in Iraq? The question: Was the US bombing of Iraq an attempt by Clinton to stay in power? This question has to be asked, although I do it with trepidation, imagining that some of my fellow Americans will accuse me of treason, or not pulling behind our leader in a time of crisis. But as I sort thru this, I want to know, where is the crisis? Does Iraq threaten us? If so, how? Oil prices are now lower than they have ever been, as if oil prices were an honorable reason to bomb another country. How would we feel if Iraq had bombed US cities? How would we feel if Iraq found a way to retaliate now that we have bombed their cities? Could we blame them if they did? Did Israel ask us to bomb Iraq? Clearly if Iraq attacks Israel, that's a problem for Israel, and we're an ally and protector of Israel. Did Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan or Egypt ask us? How come they're staying silent on this? Or are they not silent and we're not hearing about it? If timing was a big issue, as Clinton says it was, why choose to bomb Iraq just as the House was convening to decide impeachment? Are we to believe that the decision was made without considering impeachment? At some point in the deliberation, someone must have said "But Mr. President, couldn't this backfire on us? Couldn't it look as if we're doing this to bolster your Presidency?" It's the first question that pops into a thinking mind. The question has barely been raised on TV or in the newspapers or on the web. Why? This is supposed to be an open country. I can't believe that anyone who's really thinking about this hasn't asked themselves this question. It's on my mind, I can tell you that for sure. ***Carole King? These are very strange times. This came home in a new way when I saw a TV clip of Carole King entertaining the troops on a US warship. What was she doing there? Did I miss something? Is this the Bizarro World? Next is it going to be Bob Dylan, Jesse Jackson, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams and Whoopi Goldberg? What am I missing? What are we supporting? If you had a debate with a thoughtful person from outside the US, what would you say about how our military is being used? Justly, fairly, wisely, respectfully, honorably? And is it really still just about sex? Can Clinton blame the Republicans for this? Where will the buck stop this time? The appearance of dishonorable militarism is enough to cause some people to draw their own conclusions. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.. ***Did you know? I'm reminded of those who said they knew that Clinton was lying when he said he never had sexual relations with that woman. I wonder if they're listening carefully to his words now. Are they really this gullible? How will you feel if it escalates, and you or your children are asked to fight a war in Iraq? What will you be fighting for? This is very bad for the US. We are being irresponsible. We let a dishonored president bomb foreign countries and we look the other way. I keep watching the Op-Ed pages for a clue to this, but they are silent. I wonder why? ***A failure to communicate Over the weekend I watched a great movie, Cool Hand Luke, starring Paul Newman. He's a tragic Christ-like figure, making it an appropriate movie to watch during the big Christian holiday. He says and does things the other inmates wish they had the courage to say and do. The warden breaks his spirit, but it returns before the movie ends. Cornered, resigned to dying, he repeats, with a twinkle in his eye, what the warden said in an earlier scene. "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Then the jailkeeper shoots him. As they carry away his dying body I wonder whether it was worth it. In the end the prisoners are still in prison, but they have the memory of his courage to warm them. Luke is gone, the truth is gone, but at least they had a glimpse of what it's like to be alive. ***People with honor Compared with perjury and obstruction of justice, it matters more to me that the President looked into the camera, with induced outrage, and denied doing something that he later admitted doing. It was his outrage that did it for me. He's an emotional manipulator on a mass scale. Looking at the film of the Cabinet officers saying they believed him, I wondered "How could they?" If this country ever had courage, now is the time for it to surface. Don't wait for a hero, no one person can do it. We all have to decide if honor counts. Or at least a good portion of the electorate has to get there. The Democrats point to Clinton's historic 70 percent approval rating, and they're right to do so. We preach the value of democracy, but are we hypocrites, do we get any benefit from democracy in our own country? The man lies. Even his supporters acknowledge that. We accept that, but what's the limit? How far will we go? Consider that seriously, as you try to understand the news, as you try to understand the country you live in and how it relates to other countries. If Clinton stays, do we have a system based on lies? None of us know how deep it goes. We may be fighting a war as a by-product of this, a real war, with battleships and bombs. Don't blame anyone but yourself. You could have stopped it and you still can, it's not too late, yet. Dave Winer ------------------------------------------- Scripting News: <http://www.scripting.com/> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Utne: Y2K Citizen's Action Guide
by Sunder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.utne.com/y2k/ This month's Utne Reader came with an attached 4.25"x8.5" booklet. An e-copy of the said booklet is available from their site. Its contents, much like the magazine, contains articles snipped and or adapted from elsewhere. Unfortunately the thread throughout the whole thing is "those who go in the woods with automatic rifles are the bad selfish guys." IMHO, helping your family and 'hood is a great thing. Being labeled a kook if you are selfish and have no instinct other than self preservation isn't such a great thing. This sort of thought will only lead to a further erosion of freedom and a fall towards communism as more and more people will feel pressured into "sharing" their property and resources with the commune rather than hoarding. By all means, make everyone aware of the problems and help them cope if that's what you want to do, just don't force others to do the same at gunpoint. :) It does have some redeeming qualities though if you ignore the political sharing slant. The articles they've included (save for the "Public Citizen" section) are good planning guides. -- ---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos ------------------- + ^ + Sunder "The real aim of current policy is to /|\ \|/ sunder(a)sunder.net ensure the continued effectiveness of /\|/\ <--*--> ALLOW FREE EXPORT OF US information warfare assets against \/|\/ /|\ STRONG CRYPTOGRAPHY! individuals,businesses and governments \|/ + v + PROTEST WASSENAAR!!! in Europe and elsewhere" -- Ross Anderson ------------------------------ http://www.sunder.net ---------------------- RESTRICTED DATA - This material contains RESTRICTED DATA as defined in the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Unauthorized disclosure subject to administrative and criminal sanctions. NOFORN ORCON WNINTEL SIOP-ESI CNWDI

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17 Dec '03

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kha0S Linux
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

kha0S Linux is a new distribution currently in development. The primary goal of this project is to integrate and embed strong cryptography within a robust Linux distribution. kha0S is currently seeking the assistance of developers with strong backgrounds in cryptography and source code security auditing. Please visit the homepage for additional information. http://kha0s.org

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New Martial Arts Organisation
by questions＠daikihaku.dk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This e-mail is to inform you, that we have started a non-profit friendship association called Friends of the Fighting Spirit. Through the years, we have established many contacts in different countries. Now, together with all other interested people worldwide, it 's possible through Dai Ki Haku to become member of the non-profit friendship association Friends of the Fighting Spirit Our intention is to provide all forms of martial arts and combatants with the opportunity of to derive knowledge from each other in various ways, respective of different individual levels, religions and culture. If you are accepted as a member, you will never have to pay anything for you membership. Both individuals and clubs can become members. By visiting the below web-site, you will be able to read some material about Friends of the Fighting spirit. http://ffs.daikihaku.dk/ The material includes information and replies to questions about why Friends of the Fighting Spirit is quite special within Martial Art. Please take the time to read the entire material so that we may have some well-considered applications for membership. On behalf of Shihan Oerum --- (Please note that this is not a commercial e-mail, this is a non-profit organisation. Your have received this e-mail because of your interest in Martial Art, and you will not receive any more e-mail's if you decide not to join the organisation.) ---

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Kha0s Linux Distribution
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From the webpage at Kha0s.org: > Expect the first beta release of kha0S to include Matt > Blaze's CFS. It has been around for a while and has had > the benefit of review by the cryptographic community. A good start, I guess. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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G8 MIB
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From a DoJ press release 15 December 1998: High-tech crime The G8 countries have established a 24 hour network of law enforcement experts capable of responding swiftly to requests for help with investigations that cross international borders, including hacking cases. The network, which is now in use, is open to wider membership and a number of non G8 countries have already joined. The Lyon Group is pursuing consultations with industry, including internet service providers, on preventing criminal use of networks and ensuring traceability of their communications. It is also developing proposals for a legal framework for retrieving electronic evidence swiftly in cases that cut across international borders. More: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/1998/December/588ag.htm

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