December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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What is AOL
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Twenty1CC(a)aol.com had these pearls of wisdom: >Found in rec.homor.funny.reruns Yes, you are quite a rerun, but you aren't funny. To answer your question, AOL is a haven for crackers, lamers, losers, fakers, and posers like yourself. You owe the Cypherpunks a video of your very violent and graphic death.

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next article?
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

False Security William H. Payne Abstract Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work. Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com http://www.securitysolutions.com/ Bullshit. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. Zola http://zolatimes.com/ Would this be worth some bucks? Want another FUN article? http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html http://www.aci.net/kalliste/bw1 I would need a BRILLIANT EDITOR to help polish the ms. http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ On the other hand, we POSSSIBLY could get this UNFORTUNATE MATTER SETTLED before it gets WORSE. biru copyright bill payne 9/30/98 7:27 PM Counterfeiting Wiegand Wire Access Credentials Bill Payne October 16,1996 Abstract Wiegand wire access credentials are easy and inexpensive to counterfeit. Access Control & Security Systems Integration magazine, October 1996 [http://www/securitysolutions.com] published the article, Wiegand technology stands the test of time by PAUL J. BODELL, page 12 Many card and reader manufacturers offer Wiegand (pronounced wee-gand) output. However, only three companies in the world make Wiegand readers. Sensor Engineering of Hamden Conn., holds the patent for Wiegand, and Sensor has licensed Cardkey of Simi Valley, Calif., and Doduco of Pforzheim, Germany, to manufacture Wiegand cards and readers. ... A Wiegand output reader is not the same thing as a Wiegand reader, and it is important to understand the differences. In brief, Wiegand reader use the Wiegand effect to translate card information around the patented Wiegand effect in which a segment of a specially treated wire generates an electronic pulse when subjected to a specific magnetic field. If the pulse is generated when the wire is near a pick-up coil, the pulse can be detected by a circuit. Lining up several rows of wires and passing them by a cold would generate a series of pulses. Lining up two rows of wires - calling on row "zero bits" and the other "one bits" - and passing them by two different coils would generate two series of pulses, or data bits. These data bits can then be interpreted as binary data and used to control other devices. If you seal the coils in a rugged housing with properly placed magnets, and LED and some simple circuitry, you have a Wiegand reader. Carefully laminate the special wires in vinyl, and artwork, and hot-stamp a number on the vinyl, and you have a Wiegand card. IN THE BEGINNING Wiegand was first to introduce to the access control market in the late 1970s. It was immediately successful because it filled the need for durable, secure card and reader technology. Embedded in the cards, Wiegand wires cannot be altered or duplicated. ... Bodell's Last statement is incorrect. Tasks for EASILY counterfeiting Wiegand wire cards are 1 Locate the wires inside the card to read the 0s and 1s. 2 Build an ACCEPTABLE copy of the card. Bodell's clear explanation of the working of a Wiegand card can be visualized zero row | | | one row | | binary 0 1 0 0 1 representation Solutions to Task 1 A X-ray the card B MAGNI VIEW FILM, Mylar film reads magnetic fields ... Edmunds Scientific Company, catalog 16N1, page 205, C33,447 $11.75 is placed over the top of the Wiegand card. COW MAGNET, Cow magnetics allow farmers to trap metal in the stomachs of their cows. Edmunds, page 204, C31,101 $10.75 is placed under the card. Location of the wires is easily seen on the green film. Mark the position of the wires with a pen. Next chop the card vertically using a shear into about 80/1000s paper-match-sized strips. Don't worry about cutting a wire or two. Note that a 0 has the pen mark to the top. A 1 has the pen mark at the bottom. Take a business card and layout the "paper match"-like strips to counterfeit the card number desired. Don't worry about spacing. Wiegand output is self-clocking! Tape the "paper-match - like" strips to the business card. Only the FUNCTION of the card needs to be reproduced! History Breaking electronic locks was done as "work for others" at Sandia National Laboratories beginning in 1992 funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation/Engineering Research Facility, Quantico, VA. The FBI opined that this work was SECRET/NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION. Details of the consequences of this work are covered in Fired Worker File Lawsuit Against Sandia Specialist Says He Balked When Lab Sought Electronic Picklock Software, Albuquer Journal, Sunday April 25, 1993 State-sanctioned paranoia, EE Times, January 22, 1996 One man's battle, EE Times, March 22, 1994 Damn the torpedoes, EE Times, June 6, 1994 Protecting properly classified info, EE Times, April 11, 1994 DOE to scrutinize fairness in old whistle-blower cases, Albuquerque Tribune, Nov 7 1995 DOE boss accelerates whistle-blower protection, Albuquerque Tribune, March 27, 1996 DOE doesn't plan to compensate 'old' whistle-blowers with money, Albuquerque Tribune September 27, 199

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Data Haven mailing list is active again...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Welcome to the Data Haven Mailing List This list was originaly created by Douglas Floyd in order to focus discussion and development on Data Haven technology. In late 1998 The Armadillo Group took the list over since it was related to several current lists that we support. A data haven is a system that integrates cryptography, electronic funds transfer, long term data storage, anonymous remailers, and usenet style news mechanisms. The idea is that any two or more parties can participate in providing services and information in an anonymous environment that supports cryptographicly secured transactions. There are several architectures though the only known operating data haven was Black Net. This was an experiment by Tim May which examined the potential of anonymous transactions related to sensitive information and potentialy illegal activities via usenet. It was demonstrated successfuly. If you would like to subscribe send majordomo(a)ssz.com a message with a blank title and the body consisting of only: subscribe dh-l You should recieve a verification email and subsequent traffic. We hope to provide a archive of the lists traffic, though there really hasn't been a lot of it. If you are interested in this sort of technology then consider subscribing to one of the cypherpks CDR nodes as well as other more specialized lists. The cypherpunks are focused on cryptography and its implimentation and disimination, economic uses and impact of technology, and civil liberties. It is a *VERY* high traffic international mailing list. If you should have any problems please e-mail list(a)ssz.com for further help.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why, if the ignition-controllers of cars are CPUs, aren't cars theftproof without a crypto-token? David Honig Irvine Design Teleoffice

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Forwarded mail...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 04:55:13 +0200 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Why, if the ignition-controllers of cars are > CPUs, aren't cars theftproof without a > crypto-token? Some cars now use a smart-key that is unique for each vehicle, though I'm sure there are 'master keys'. What a cool way to do rental cars.... insert your smart-card and it activates and charges your account until reset by the rental agency on return to a distributed system of drop-off points. I noticed the other day we now have a washateria down on Guadalupe in the old Antone's Club building that operates only by smart-card, no cash sign right on the front door. There's a perfect application for something like GNU/cash with a crypto/e$ module. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Increase Your Paycheck Next Week
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ANNOUNCEMENT: RPK SECURITY AWARDED PATENTS FOR ENCRYPTONITE ENGINE IN U.S. AND NEW ZEALAND
by Jack Oswald / CEO / RPK Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have received this message because at some time in the past your name was submitted to our e-mail mailing list database. If you do not wish (or no longer wish) to receive announcements, updates and news concerning the RPK Encryptonite Engine or the RPK InvisiMail e-mail security products, please forward this message to remove(a)rpkusa.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- MEDIA ALERT CONTACT Paula Miller Lyn Oswald Nadel Phelan, Inc. RPK Security Inc. 408-439-5570 x277 212-488-9891 paulam(a)nadelphelan.com lynoswald(a)rpkusa.com RPK SECURITY AWARDED PATENTS FOR ENCRYPTONITE ENGINE IN U.S. AND NEW ZEALAND SAN FRANCISCO, CA. September 15, 1998 - RPK Security, Inc., a technology leader in fast public key encryption, today announced that the technology behind the company's uniquely fast public key cryptosystem, the RPK Encryptonite Engine, was awarded U.S. patent number 5,799,088 on August 25, 1998 and New Zealand patent number 277,128 on August 17, 1998. Based on the proven mathematics of Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange, the RPK Encryptonite Engine combines all the benefits of other public key systems (authentication, digital signatures and digital certificates) with the speed of a secret key system into one algorithm. With the superior performance offered by RPK's Encryptonite Engine, applications requiring streaming data, sound, video or large numbers of transactions, such as credit card payments, receive instantaneous responses and secure communication links. "We believe these patents give us a significant, unique and enforceable competitive advantage over other providers of public key encryption products," said Jack Oswald, president and CEO of RPK Security. "The RPK patents confirm our technology leadership in strong and fast public key cryptography." With development and distribution facilities outside of the U.S., RPK Security is able to provide its customers with a worldwide strong encryption solution that is available globally, unlike competing products that are restricted by U.S. export regulations. ABOUT RPK SECURITY Founded in 1995, RPK Security, Inc. is a technology leader in fast public key cryptography. Its flagship RPK Encryptonite Engine, a uniquely fast and strong public key encryption technology, is available worldwide in custom hardware and software toolkits on multiple platforms. Developed from widely accepted security mathematics and techniques, the RPK Encryptonite Engine is easily embedded into new and existing hardware and software applications. RPK's cryptographic research and product development is based in New Zealand, Switzerland and the U.K, with worldwide sales and marketing operations in San Francisco, CA. Visit RPK's website at www.rpkusa.com or call (212) 488-9891.

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > No Netscape on NT or 95/98 is no where near as stable as > on a Linux or Solaris box (the two that I use most). Correct me if I am wrong or if this has changed since they went open-source, but AFAIK Mozilla's Windows and Unix codebases were entirely independent and separately developed, so I'm not sure what conclusions you can draw from that. > Yep, that explains why my NT's have to be rebooted almost daily > because of various issues and my various unix boxes go for weeks Again, let's leave the OS wars off this list. I've had NT machines up for several months and down only for patches and upgrades. But Netscape pissed me off so severely during the version 2.x plethora of releases with their alpha-quality javascript that I've not used it since, so I cannot comment on its current [in]stability. Matt

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > > Lightly? You jest. > > No I don't. I can start a business for as little as $15 to > register a DBA and I don't need licenses or other sorts of > regulatory permissions. And you would be stupid to expose yourself to full liability. Regulation includes much more than licensing and registration. Try hiring a couple employees, paying freelance individuals, setup office space, get yourself a company car and do your fed income taxes. Lightly regulated my ass. If they enforced every word of every code strongly and literally it would be nearly impossible to conduct business. > No we shouldn't. The fact that monopolies can exist in this > lightly regulated economy is ample evidence Bullshit, monopolies exist because of the regulation. > If you seriously think this is a heavily regulated market you > should do more research into such places as Nazi Germany, > Russia, China, etc. Bullshit again, there is a *big* difference between a regulated market (mixed capitalist/socialist economy) and a command economy. So because we don't live in Soviet Russia we should all bend over and take it? > Monopolies are monopolies, claiming that they will be less > abusive in a regulated market than in a free-market just Coercive power takes form via regulation. Without it a bad monopoly is a short-lived one. > You are claiming that if we do away with the food > regulations that McDonalds will be *more* concerned > about their meat being cooked thoroughly then you Liability, liability, liability. Regulation often promotes bad practice as businesses comply with minimum regulation and nothing more instead of thinking for themselves. What is worse is government often shields companies from liability. > If a market monopolizes there is *NO* competition. How do you prevent potential competition? Monopoly means both the absence of existing and potential competition and alternatives. > If the market is one that takes a large investment in > intellectual or capital materials then there > won't be any opportunity to even attempt to start a > competitive venture. A fluid capital market can finance even the largest of ventures if the potential return is there. Different markets have different time schedules, but competition can and will come. Intellectual Property enforcement is an act of government, it is a force monopoly, only just and reasonable IP laws limit it. Notice that, bad laws = bad monopoly, good laws = balanced environment, no laws = no monopoly. The last of which is not necessarily preferable in this case, and is a fundamental difference in laissez-faire Vs anarchy. > Fairness is about the consumer, not the manufacturer. You have an odd definition of fair. You cannot have fair for the benefit of one at the expense of another. > Contractual with who? With whomever is a part of the framework. > > reputation for punishment instead of life and liberty, > > Businesses are neither alive nor do they enjoy liberty. Don't > confuse people with systems and objects. No, do not strip the person from the businesses. A group of people do not lose any of the rights and liberty of a single individual, neither do they gain any. Businesses are people. Commerce is a fundamental right, in order to survive you must be able to create and dispose of that creation. The lack of the *individual's* right to freely and easily pursue any and all business pursuits to any degree is an act of enslavement of the individual to corporate aristocracy and bureaucratic whim. Matt

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Increase Your Paycheck Next Week
by 2001files＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would you like to get a pay raise next week without asking your boss? Then this very special report, "Money Power," is for you! If you have a regular job - not working in your own or a family business - and you get a regular paycheck, we can show you how you can give yourself a HUGE RAISE in your very next paycheck. At least between 20% - 30% more than what you are getting now. Yes, your paycheck will be increased substantially! * Example: If your take home pay is $400 net per week, you can take home $440 - $500 the very next week and every week thereafter! No Gimmicks! Everything is perfectly legal. "Money Power" is written in three parts: *Part I - shows you exactly what to do so you can give yourself a raise in your next paycheck. You decide how big a pay raise you want to give yourself! *Part II - shows you how to protect yourself, your family, your home, and your assets without paying big money -- just $85 per year to legally protect your liability 100% against bill collectors and debts. *Part III - shows you how you can legally deduct household expenses - utilities, gardener, supplies, repairs, and more from your income taxes. Absolutely No Gimmicks! Everything is legal. This is NOT a "get rich quick" scheme or some other scam. We are sure you have seen lots of them. And this is NOT a "tax protester" who refuses to pay income taxes. The author of this report pays taxes every year - of course, as little as legally possible. It's our opinion it is not good to zero out completely. But, you can - it's your choice. Using the methods in this report, the rich become richer. And poor people become poorer when they don't take advantage of these techniques. Your chances of being audited by the IRS - just for using these methods - are near zero. * We are so sure "Money Power" will work for you, here is our risk-free guarantee. If you don't get at least 100 times more money in your paycheck in one year than the cost of this report, we will double your money back! How's that for a guarantee? --------------------------------- Now, here's one more offer you will find hard to refuse. We have a Reseller Program whereby you can make money selling this report. When you purchase "Money Power," you will also get 1,000 FREE places to advertise on the Internet! If you want to make some extra money - $500, $1,000 or more - just post ads on those sites and have the orders come to you. For every order you send us, we will pay you $5.00: *You don't need a merchant account to process orders! We do that. *You don't have to warehouse any inventory! We do that. *You don't have to ship any merchandise. We do that. All you have to do is send us the orders. We'll process checks, money orders, and credit cards and we will pack and mail the report. And you get paid twice a month - on the 15th and the 30th! ------------------------------------ And, listen. America is a free country. If you don't want an increase in your paycheck, that's fine. And if you don't want to know how to protect your family, that's OK, too. And if you don't want to save money on taxes, that's quite all right. You are living in a free country. But, if you need money - more money in your paycheck, act right now! The author of this report used to work for Corporate America earning over $100,000 a year. After paying almost 40% in Federal taxes, 6.2% for Social Security, 1.45% for Medicare, 1.5% for the unemployment fund, and 3% for his employee benefits, he would bring home less than half of his yearly salary! And then there was state income tax to pay! He decided he had to do something so he could keep all the money! 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Why is the world not perfect?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > Why, if the ignition-controllers of cars are > CPUs, aren't cars theftproof without a > crypto-token? The bastards (a term which collectively includes insurance companies, police, car manufacturers and a host of others) make vast amounts of money on the basis that your car is stolen regularly. Scheduled Disasters are good for business. Whoever it was who had the idea for a Y2K bug is currently minting it.

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RE: propose: `cypherpunks license' (Re: Wanted: Twofish source code)
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My computer alleges that Derek Atkins[SMTP:warlord@MIT.EDU] wrote: > The big issue I see with GPL and Crypto software is that with the > GPL you cannot add any redistribution restrictions. The problem > is that due to the United States export rules, I cannot export > Crypto software, which means I must legally put a restriction on > any Crypto code I write. But, this is a "further restriction" as far > as the GPL is concerned. This, in turn, means I cannot use the > GPL for Crypto software. Surely the way round this is to take the "batteries not included" route? Just use GPLed libraries or standalone modules. Or write your code in such a way that some modules are GPLed and some aren't. Sell your modules & tell people that they will need to get the GPL stuff through "normal channels". Of course, once outside the USA you are safe. Nobody *outside* the US cares much about your export restrictions or absurd ideas about patenting software anyway - although in many European countries, and certainly in UK, we take copyright a lot *more* seriously than you. Copyright is widely seen as a right, something that naturally belongs to the author or artist. In French law they even talk about right of "paternity" in a text (part of "Droit Moral") even if you assign copyright to another person you are still allowed to veto changes in it, your right is seen as inalienable, like the rights you have to your own person - copyright is part of personality, not property. (This has been partly imported into English law as a a right to be identified as the author, which has to be asserted, which you now nearly always do). In France but not in England they also recognise the right to withdraw a work (although for some reason Stanley Kubrick seems to have been able to withdraw the Clockwork Orange film in England, I don't understand how) and the right of access to a work (an artist is allowed access to a painting which has been sold to someone else). These things are seen as part of personality. Just as in the US the law won't allow you to sell yourself permanently to someone else (i.e. no slavery, even voluntary slavery) but only rent yourself out (employment) so in most of Europe you can't really "sell" copyright, only rent it out. But patents are to some extent seen as government interference, as licensed monopoly. They tend to be unpopular with everyone (except lawyers, inventors and pharmecutical companies of course). I suspect there are a lot of people who would have moral problems with breaking someone else's software copyright but wouldn't give a dam about breaking a software patent. An algorithm is an idea, and how can anyone own an idea? (I'm talking morals here, not law - intersecting universes of discourse, but not identical ones :-) Ken Brown (and not his employers who respect patents greatly and would sack me if I broke them at work. After all they own an awful lot of them...)

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17 Dec '03

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I thought of an initialy regulated industry!...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, In regards the discussion about regulation and industry. I can think of only one industry that was regulated before the very first company opened their doors for business....nuclear power plants. Personaly, 3 Mile Island in a un-regulated industry scares the hell out of me...and I support nuclear power. Look at the fiasco of Chernobyl in a control market. I'd like to hear from any free market mavens who might want to use the nuclear industry as an example of how things could be so much better with no regulation regarding construction, operation, or waste disposal. "Hey Sammy, just through those spent pellets in with the trash, those stupid trash people don't know nothing...." ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:49:10 -0700 > > No Netscape on NT or 95/98 is no where near as stable as > > on a Linux or Solaris box (the two that I use most). > > Correct me if I am wrong or if this has changed since they went > open-source, but AFAIK Mozilla's Windows and Unix codebases were > entirely independent and separately developed, so I'm not sure what > conclusions you can draw from that. I'd say the obvious one, the Unix code tree is more stable than the MS tree. > Again, let's leave the OS wars off this list. I've had NT machines up > for several months and down only for patches and upgrades. As I have, but at nowhere near the load level that Unixes can support. To get even near-mark performance requires larger hard drives, faster processors, and way more ram (2x or more in many cases). ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:30:14 -0700 > And you would be stupid to expose yourself to full liability. No, being a single proprietorship isn't stupid. It may not be something you like but it isn't stupid. I will agree that depending on the size and type of business it isn't always the best way, but then being a multi-national incorporation isn't the best way to do local contract work for SOHO's (for example) either. > Regulation includes much more than licensing and registration. Try > hiring a couple employees, As long as it's only two I don't have to worry about federal regulations and such, they only kick in when I hire 3 or more. > paying freelance individuals, Hand them their 1099's and they're out the door. I just pay them whatever I agreed (gross before taxes) and the 1099 is *their* promise to deal with the taxes. > setup office space, Sign a lease and wallah. > get yourself a company car All I need for that is a DBA, can even open bank accounts and get credit cards in the company name with nothing but a DL and that DBA. > and do your fed income taxes. As a single proprietorship I do my taxes the same old way I always did them except I must include the SE documents which only add a few pages. If I do the contract work via 1099's (which says that the contractor is responsbile for the taxes on that income) all I have to show is the gross amount paid to that contract person. > If they enforced every word of every code strongly and > literally it would be nearly impossible to conduct business. No, it wouldn't. For example I do contract work for small office - home office companies (generaly 10 or less employees total). I write software, install software, train, repair hardware, do upgrades, etc. and there are literaly NO regulations at any level on those activities outside those imposed by 1099's for sub-contractors (who work their own hours and must provide their own tools) and the contract I and the customer agree to. If I buy something for a customer I pass the receipt along to them and get reimbursed for my time (on a seperate receipt) and the exact amount for the items purchased (I am acting as their agent and not a reseller) so I don't even need a tax number technicaly (since I don't pay state sales tax on labor costs and am not selling them the items purchased). All I need is a $15 DBA and a bunch of blank 1099's. Why do cities and states require licenses on such things as air conditioning or auto mechanics? Because for years there were no licenses required and anybody could do it. After enough decades of scam artists, poorly run business who cost customers money because they went out of business without doing the work, or they did sub-standard (as defined by the practitioners of that activity) work. I challenge you to find an example where a state or federal regulation was imposed before the industry matured. > Bullshit, monopolies exist because of the regulation. No, monopolies exist because people are greedy and want to own everything. History is full of examples where industries were unregulated (ever read Upton Sinclair?) and abused the employees and the market and as a result regulation was imposed. It's interesting that free-market mavens never seem to mention that the vast majority of monopoly examples occured *before* industry regulation was imposed. Even in the Microsoft case, it's only now that they've grown so big and become so porous about information that the government has stepped in and begun asking "has the industry matured to the point where continued non-regulation is a detriment because it allows hording of industry resources?" Even if we were to de-regulate the clothing industry for example it is highly unlikely that child labor and sweat shops would become less prevalent. Of course I'd like to see your evidence to the contrary. "Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it" Santyana > Bullshit again, there is a *big* difference between a regulated market > (mixed capitalist/socialist economy) and a command economy. So because > we don't live in Soviet Russia we should all bend over and take it? A regulated market is something that has regulation imposed from the outside (ie besides the supplier and consumer). There are certainly different kinds of regulated economies just like there are different kinds of mammals. But to say that Zebra's aren't mammals because they don't look like an Aardvark is a dis-serivice. You, and every other free-market maven, have yet to demonstrate with historical example that free-market works. > Coercive power takes form via regulation. Without it a bad monopoly is a > short-lived one. Tell that to the rail-roads of the mid to late 1800's, the meat packing industry of the late 1800's and early 1900's. The sweat houses of the garment industry since the early 1800's, etc. No sir, history doesn't support your proposition at all. > Liability, liability, liability. Regulation often promotes bad practice > as businesses comply with minimum regulation and nothing more instead of > thinking for themselves. What is worse is government often shields > companies from liability. See above examples. Hell, take a look at the wet pet food market now for a perfect example of why non-regulation is a bad thing and why liability and other such buzz words don't work in the real world. And you were wondering why your little toodles was loosing her hair, was always excited and aggitated and has the health of a pet 3-4 years older than the chronological age... Bottem line, in a free market (no regulation other than consumer and supplier) there are no controlling mechanisms and no recourse for the consumer because they have nothing to demonstrate even an implied warranty or liability of manufacturer (read software licenses to see how this can be side stepped easily, hint: imagine a software license on the side of a can of beans.). ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. 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MAJOR STOCK ALERT!! A 3 MILLION GOLD RESOURCE CONFIRMED!!
by bubba219＠mailexcite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC V7Y 1K4 Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622 Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free: (888) 267 - 1400 website: http://www.emgold.com Introduction EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision. Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956. Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade). When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level. Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft. Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au). This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997. Upside Potential: 3,000,000+ oz Au Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet! This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999) EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential. EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year. With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce. Current Market Conditions The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%. Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms: Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices. However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis). EMGOLD's Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America. With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete. However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents. The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities. Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. -------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <DIV> <DIV>GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC  V7Y 1K4  Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622    Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free:  (888) 267 - 1400 website:  http://www.emgold.com Introduction</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision.  Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production</DIV> <DIV> The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956.  Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade).  When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level.  Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft.  Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined…. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au).  This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997.  Upside Potential:  3,000,000+ oz Au</DIV> <DIV> Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet!  This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999)</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential.   EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year.  With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce.  Current Market Conditions</DIV> <DIV> The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%.  Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms:  Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices.  However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors</DIV> <DIV> Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis).  EMGOLD's  Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America.  With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment  shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete.  However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents.  The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities.  Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. </DIV></DIV> NOTE: For those on the internet who do not want to recieve exciting messages such as this..... * To be removed from our mailing list, simple send "remove" to the return address. *We strive to comply with all state and federal laws and to send ads only to interested parties. *This ad is not intended for nor do we knowingly send to Washington State residents. 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MAJOR STOCK ALERT!! A 3 MILLION GOLD RESOURCE CONFIRMED!!
by bubba219＠mailexcite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC V7Y 1K4 Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622 Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free: (888) 267 - 1400 website: http://www.emgold.com Introduction EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision. Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956. Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade). When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level. Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft. Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au). This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997. Upside Potential: 3,000,000+ oz Au Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet! This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999) EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential. EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year. With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce. Current Market Conditions The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%. Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms: Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices. However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis). EMGOLD's Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America. With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete. However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents. The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities. Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. -------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <DIV> <DIV>GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC  V7Y 1K4  Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622    Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free:  (888) 267 - 1400 website:  http://www.emgold.com Introduction</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision.  Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production</DIV> <DIV> The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956.  Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade).  When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level.  Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft.  Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined…. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au).  This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997.  Upside Potential:  3,000,000+ oz Au</DIV> <DIV> Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet!  This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999)</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential.   EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year.  With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce.  Current Market Conditions</DIV> <DIV> The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%.  Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms:  Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices.  However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors</DIV> <DIV> Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis).  EMGOLD's  Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America.  With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment  shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete.  However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents.  The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities.  Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. </DIV></DIV> NOTE: For those on the internet who do not want to recieve exciting messages such as this..... * To be removed from our mailing list, simple send "remove" to the return address. *We strive to comply with all state and federal laws and to send ads only to interested parties. *This ad is not intended for nor do we knowingly send to Washington State residents. 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crypto on /.
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://slashdot.org/ > Senate considering Tax-Free Net Bill The Almighty Buck Posted by Hemos > on Thursday October 01, @08:48AM > from the bloody-well-approve-it dept. > Well, although the House of Representations passed it way back in > June, the US Senate is finally getting close to passing the bill which > would temporarily close the Internet to any new taxes. It will be > considered today. It has been twice blocked by Senator Bob Graham > (D-Florida), but Senator McCain (R-Arizona) has pushed it forward. > Ask Slashdot: Cryptography and Digital Signatures Encryption Posted by > Cliff on Wednesday September 30, @09:40PM > from the encryption-101 dept. > Jonathan Squire writes in with questions concerning encryption. He > writes: '...is it considered "secure" to generate an MD5 of a > passphrase and then use the MD5 hash as the key to an RC4 cypher of a > message/file that you want to send to someone? What are the > implications of sending some alternative file with the same pass > phrase used if someone who does not know the pass phrase is able to > obtain both of the cyphertexts? What if they obtain both cyphertexts > and one clear text, how hard would it be (computationaly/finacially) > for them to derive the passphrase that was used?' There's more! > Click the link below... > Investigating Echelon Encryption Posted by Hemos on Wednesday > September 30, @02:29PM > from the white-or-black-spy dept. > It appears that the European Parliment is going to attempt to > investigae Echelon, the somewhat mystical eavesdropping entity that is > supposed to be able to listen to all Continental communications. This > article gives a great amount of detail about what it is alleged to > be, but apparently it's run by five security agencies, including the > NSA, and can intercept almost anything. I'd love to have this rig at > home. updated ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by 2001files＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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early reports from Austria: possible crypto stalemate (fwd)
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:04:38 -0300 (ADT) From: M Taylor <mctaylor(a)privacy.nb.ca> To: cryptography(a)c2.net Subject: early reports from Austria: possible crypto stalemate (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-cryptography(a)c2.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Sender: efc-talk-owner(a)insight.cas.mcmaster.ca Subject: early reports from Austria: possible crypto stalemate Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:48:20 -0400 (EDT) To: efc-talk(a)insight.cas.mcmaster.ca From: David Jones <djones(a)insight.cas.mcmaster.ca> Brief Crypto update: Sources in Vienna, Austria, where the current Wassenaar negotiations have been taking place, seem to indicate that there have been no changes on international crypto policy. This is generally regarded as a "good sign", since it means the hard liners (Russia, US, France, UK, NZ) haven't been successful, and those countries advocating a more liberal policy may be sticking to their positions. The next time int'l crypto policy is to be formally negotiated is apparently early in December. -- djones(a)efc.ca P.S. If anyone happens to be fluent in German, maybe you could help us by translating, or summarizing, in English: http://www.mediaweb.at/akmg/news/wassenaar.html ---------------- (via babelfish) http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?urltext=http%3A%2F… w.mediaweb.at%2Fakmg%2Fnews%2Fwassenaar.html&lp=de_en In my very brief summary: it appears that a stalemate was reached in regards to the public domain exemption ("General Software Note" in Canada) of cryptography. The heavyweights (US, UK, France, Russia) want to remove it while others (much of Europe?, Canada?) want to preserve it. There is also mention of key-escrow, but I'm not certain if that is tied to the Wassenaar Agreement talks. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Oct 2 column - take them shooting
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:29:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: vin(a)dali.lvrj.com Mime-Version: 1.0 To: vinsends(a)ezlink.com From: Vin_Suprynowicz(a)lvrj.com (Vin Suprynowicz) Subject: Oct 2 column - take them shooting Resent-From: vinsends(a)ezlink.com X-Mailing-List: <vinsends(a)ezlink.com> archive/latest/563 X-Loop: vinsends(a)ezlink.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: vinsends-request(a)ezlink.com FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED OCT. 2, 1998 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz 'And every other terrible implement of the soldier' One of the great pleasures of collecting and restoring old firearms is hauling them out to the range and letting a visitor find out just how good some of our grandfathers' military engineering really was. It can be an even greater pleasure to introduce someone who's previously been a "Second Amendment agnostic" to the exhilaration that comes with learning how to safely and effectively handle these historic tools of freedom. Suddenly some appreciation dawns of what it must have been like to stand with the Minutemen on that town green in Lexington, or to dig the mud or snow out of your action, slam in a clip, and carefully squeeze off eight aimed rounds of 30.06 from the unstoppable Garand. These old-timers aren't dainty target rifles. You slam them closed with the butt of your hand. The weight of steel across your arms, the crack of bullets breaking the sound barrier (even through modern ear protection) are sobering. Then, once the newcomer develops that cake-eating grin that comes when you confirm it was him -- not the wind -- that really knocked down those cans at 60 yards, you point waaaay down the wash, and explain that the average infantryman was expected to hit a man-sized target over there, at 300 yards ... that a marksman was expected to do so at 800. "You mean you can hit something out (start ital)there(end ital)? I can't even (start ital)see(end ital) what's out there." "Yes. And I also mean that any trained soldier out there ... can hit you." Suddenly all this talk about banning "assault rifles" with "magazines that hold more than 10 rounds," or rifles with bayonet lugs or flash hiders (yes, that's why that collector's piece you're holding has been emasculated with a hacksaw, like an antique table imported with only three legs) start to come into focus. "They made them import this SKS without a bayonet? But they're obviously designed to carry the folding bayonet, like this older one here. Without it the cleaning rod rattles around and falls out. And how the heck does taking off the bayonet make the weapon any less deadly in a shoot-out? Who thinks up this stuff?" Any American can still learn to shoot safely, and then teach one more person, and then another. It's wonderfully subversive. Recently, a fellow who I took out was moved to recall that his father had qualified as a marksman in the army, but had died before he was able to teach his son that skill. So pleased was he to start re-learning his father's skill that he insisted on buying me dinner, to compensate me for my ammo costs. Two weeks later, the lad who grew up without a father won the Republican primary, and now stands a good chance of becoming our next congressman. Good luck selling your victim-disarmament bill of goods to him now, Ms. Feinstein, Mr. Schumer. # # # Of course, the downside of hauling a collection of arms out to the range always faced you that evening, when a half-dozen rifles leaned waiting against the wall, and you started figuring how long you were about to spend with cleaning rods, powder solvent, jags and patches. (And if you find a woman who loves the smell of Hoppe's powder solvent in her living room, fellows, marry her straight off.) Since this has been the fate of the rifleman for centuries, I will admit it was with the standard "Yeah, right" that I first noticed an ad in one of the firearms tabloids a few months back for a new product modestly named the "World's Fastest Gun Bore Cleaner," a patented rayon pull-through cord with phosphor-bronze bristles braided right into the front. Everyone knows the only way to clean a rifle barrel is to brush it out with a cleaning rod, run through cotton patches soaked in solvent, and then run through dry patches to remove the black soot, repeating again and again in a semi-hypnotic ritual of devotional labor. Pull some fancy cord once through the gun and rack it away? Ha! Then I dropped by the Soldier of Fortune Expo here in Las Vegas last month, and spotted a table full of these things, manned by the inventor, who explained how he got to wondering -- as he was clearing out some varmints in the frozen wilds of Idaho, cold enough to freeze your fingers to the barrel -- why in this day of space-age materials no one had invented a device that would clean a rifle barrel with one pull, no bent or broken steel rods to haul around, no gouging of the rifle's delicate crown, no chemicals. I bought one of the things -- which you can roll up and carry in your shirt pocket -- and Bruce Hedge made me a gift of a second one to fit my pistols (the Bore Cleaner is sized precisely by caliber), my total "compensation" for this rare and unsolicited product endorsement. Because, you see, they work. After that precision-sized brush stutters through (you want it to stutter -- that means the bristles aren't lying over sideways because they're too long), the braided cord swipes your lands and grooves with a surface area equivalent to 160 cotton patches. And when the cord is dirty, you just wash it out in soapy water, to the tune of 200 to 500 uses. Mr. Hedge's biggest problem? Other than finding enough salesmen to move his product, and butting up against some out-of-date military specs that are so far keeping our men in uniform from capitalizing on this breakthrough, that would be "setting aside the $100,000 we figure we're going to need to protect the patent." As the man said, "This changes everything." The "World's Fastest Gun Bore Cleaner" is from National Tech-Labs, 5200 Sawyer, Suite H, Boise, Idaho 83714; tel. 208-345-5674. If you shoot, you want some. # # # "Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, (start ital)and every other terrible implement of the soldier(end ital), are the birth-right of an American." -- Tench Coxe, prominent Federalist and friend of James Madison, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788. Vin Suprynowicz is the assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Readers may contact him via e-mail at vin(a)lvrj.com. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin(a)lvrj.com The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. -- John Hay, 1872 The most difficult struggle of all is the one within ourselves. Let us not get accustomed and adjusted to these conditions. The one who adjusts ceases to discriminate between good and evil. He becomes a slave in body and soul. Whatever may happen to you, remember always: Don't adjust! Revolt against the reality! -- Mordechai Anielewicz, Warsaw, 1943 * * * --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Canada's Crypto Policy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to MC Taylor for pointing we offer a speech today by Canada's Minister of Industry on a new cryptography policy: http://jya.com/ca-crypto.htm (16K) It has links to several sites with related policies in the works.

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[Cdn] Cryptography Policy Discussion Paper: Analysis of Submissions
by M Taylor 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An analysis of responses to The Canadian Cryptography Policy Discussion Paper (http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/cy00005e.html) Prepared by: AEPOS Technologies Corporation Prepared for: Industry Canada Originator : AEPOS Technologies Corporation 116 Albert St. Suite 601 Ottawa, Ontario K1P 5G3 Date : 15 September, 1998 English: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/cy01156e.html French: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSGF/cy01156f.html It appears is light of today's announcement <http://info.ic.gc.ca/cmb/welcomeic.nsf/558d636590992942852564880052155b/852…> by John Manley, Minister of Industry, that domestic cryptography will bloom, but the export of Canadian crypto is not yet clear. I suspect the Wassenaar negotiations will determine whether the free export of "public domain" and mass market software will continue for Canadians. As an exporter, I hope so. -mctaylor -- M Taylor mctaylor@ / glyphmetrics.ca | privacy.nb.ca

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[RRE]Conference: Technological Visions
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PhilZ Pontificates. Philm at 11. Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:43:09 -0800 To: "Red Rock Eater News Service" <rre(a)lists.gseis.ucla.edu> From: duguid(a)socrates.berkeley.edu (Paul Duguid) Subject: [RRE]Conference: Technological Visions Sender: <rre(a)lists.gseis.ucla.edu> Precedence: Bulk List-Subscribe: <mailto:rre-on@lists.gseis.ucla.edu> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, see http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/people/pagre/rre.html or send a message to requests(a)lists.gseis.ucla.edu with Subject: info rre =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:41:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Kearney <kearney(a)scf-fs.usc.edu Subject: Technological Visions: Utopian and Dystopian Perspectives CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT: Technological Visions: Utopian and Dystopian Perspectives A USC Annenberg Center for Communication convened by the Annenberg Schools for Communication, University of Southern California and the University of Pennsylvania November 6 and 7, 1998 Davidson Conference Center, University of Southern California Technological Visions: Utopian and Dystopian Perspectives will bring together journalists, academics, cyberculture advocates, policymakers, and science fiction visionaries to examine how technologies have been envisioned throughout history and the social impact of new technologies. The conference will explore ways of considering contemporary new technologies in light of how new technologies were represented and debated in the past. It intends to address the ahistorical nature of the public discourse of new technology and to encourage discussion across the boundaries of the social realms of academic, media, and industry on the impact of new technologies. Sherry Turkle, Professor of Sociology of Science at MIT and author of Life on the Screen will give the keynote speech: Are the discourses surrounding the Internet a better guide to social action than those formulated in the early days of "old" technologies? Have we learned anything from the successes and failures of past attempts to predict what technology will do for us and to us? Panels: The Problems and Potentials of Prediction Privacy and Censorship Communities of Place and Cyberspace Media Discourse on New Technology Technological Visions Confirmed Participants: John Perry Barlow, Lord Asa Briggs, Richard Chabran, Bob Cringely, Wendy Grossman, Katie Hafner, Larry Irving, Peter Lyman, Carolyn Marvin, David Nye, Mitchel Resnick, Romelia Salinas, Vivian Sobchack, Lynn Spigel, Sherry Turkle, Langdon Winner, Philip Zimmermann Conference Organizers: Sandra Ball-Rokeach, Marita Sturken, Douglas Thomas, Annenberg School for Communication Conference Information: The conference is free and open to the public. It will be held at the Davidson Conference Center on the USC campus in downtown Los Angeles. The conference proceedings will be simulcast on the Metamorphosis web site. For further information and updated schedules: www.metamorph.org For more information, contact: Douglas Thomas (213) 740-3937 douglast(a)usc.edu Marita Sturken (213) 740-3950 sturken(a)usc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Duguid Social & Cultural Studies University of California, Berkeley duguid(a)socrates.berkeley.edu Tel: 510 848 1843 Fax: 510 540 0347 --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 07:41:29 -0400 > From: Duncan Frissell <frissell(a)panix.com> > Subject: Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... > A normally operating coal plant releases more radioactive material (carbon > 14) than a normally operating nuclear plant. The largest environment impact issue with a nuclear plant is hot water discharge (which is much larger than the exhaust from a coal plant) and spent fuel storage because of the amount of time that is required to guarantee seals. In the first place the heated water effects the ecology of the local area and you see the ripples of this in the ecology changes for hundreds of miles. An additional impact is that because of the water needs of plants they are usualy located in or near wetlands which are critical to the entire eco-cycle for thousands of miles. The issue with storage is that it occurs on a time line that is best described as near-geologic. Periods of time that are orders of magnitude longer than human civilizations survive. > coal plant are not only more voluminous (though less dense) than the coal > that goes in but also contain a substance that is more poisonous than > plutonium (arsenic trioxide). Consider the difference in volume of these two waste products... ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:46:05 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... My original quote: > >I'd like to hear from any free market mavens who might want to use the > >nuclear industry as an example of how things could be so much better with no > >regulation regarding construction, operation, or waste disposal. Partial quote of Tim: > "Regulation" of the nuclear power industry had the predicted effect of > overly conservative designs being standardized. Specifically, the > Westinghouse boiling water designs, basically frozen in 1955 and little > changed since then. > > Ordinary evolutionary improvement, plus revolutionary improvement, has not > been possible. (Some examples would include inherently fail-safe designs > like the Canadian CANDU reactor, and various improvements the French have > made in the original Westinghouse design.) Ok. I agree that over-regulation is bad. CCCP, China, Cuba, etc. are clear examples of how over-regulation is a failure. However, my question was to defend the free-market position that *no* regulation provides an improved environment for (in this case) reactor design. Apples and oranges... ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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EduFUD: Computers, software can harm emotional, social development
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As the FUD snowballs. The Globe gets Rimmed again... The edutocracy (and the Boston Globe :-)) finally notices that all that artillery parked at the foot of their ivory tower actually *does* blow great big rocks into tiny little bits... In another context, Carl Ellison has this great story about how, when firearms were invented, peasants could finally kill knights in armor from a comfortable distance. When the church reminded them that killing knights was a sin, peasants started killing knights on weekdays and confessing those sins in church on Sunday. Frankly, I've learned more on the net in the last few years than I ever would have in an equivalent time in school. I credit it with a several-point increase in my IQ, even. Woops. We don't count IQ anymore, now do we?... :-). I guess I know too many stone geniuses who've had computers since they were children -- most of the people on this list were raised that way, I would bet -- to take this crap too seriously, reduced attention "spans" or not. By the way, "span" is the wrong word for ADD. I was hardly raised on TV, much less computers, (I had my face in science fiction books throughout most of my childhood), and I've been known to focus on something "inappropriately" for hours. While I certainly have varying degrees of control of my attention, but I just don't see that a "handicap" anymore. My attention is event-driven, rather than processed in neat organized batches, and I've learned to like it that way, even if it did give me trouble when I was chained in the aforementioned tower's dungeon for most of my formative years. Besides, even if computers cause people to have event-driven attention rather than in nice neat industrial batches, that's probably a Good Thing(tm). Consider it evolution in action. Farmers and mechanics may need "control" of their attention, but in an information "hunter" like myself, most of the people who do anything useful on the net, it's a selective disadvantage. Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text From: Somebody To: "'rah(a)shipwright.com'" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: FW: Computers, software can harm emotional, social development Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:28:41 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Status: U > -----Original Message----- > From: Somebody else > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 8:41 AM > To: a whole buncha education "professionals"... > Subject: Computers, software can harm emotional, social > development > > > > Computers, software can harm emotional, social development > > By Barbara F. Meltz, Globe Staff, 10/01/98 > > Short attention span. Needs instant gratification. Can't > focus. Doesn't apply > himself. > > If this is what you're hearing from your child's first- > or second-grade teacher, > before you panic and think learning disabilities or > attention deficit disorder, > consider something external: your family computer. > > Educators have long intuited that early exposure to > computers doesn't give > children an educational edge. Now researchers have data > to show it can > actually be harmful, potentially undercutting brain > development, interfering > with the way a child learns, intruding on social and > emotional development, > and putting health at risk. ''There is no reason to give > a computer to a child > under 7,'' says educational psychologist Jane M. Healy. > If she had her way, > she'd throw computers out of preschool and early > elementary classrooms > and keep kids off them at home. Her > sure-to-be-controversial new book, > ''Failure to Connect: How Computers Affect Our > Children's Minds, for > Better and Worse'' (Simon & Schuster), is eye-opening > reading. > > Many researchers agree with her. ''For children under 7 > or 8 who have not > reached the age of abstract reasoning, computer exposure > changes the way > they absorb material. Some of us think this is quite > frightening,'' says > educational policy analyst Ed Miller of Cambridge. > > Technology researcher Douglas Sloan, a professor at > Teachers College at > Columbia University, says, ''It's something of a scandal > that it's taken us so > long to figure this out.'' > > Some of the troubling trends Healy identifies: > > Kindergartners who don't want to draw with markers and > crayons > because ''it isn't as pretty as my computer drawings.'' > > First-graders who are so used to a computer game's > reward for doing > something easy, they don't want to try anything hard. > > Kindergartners who are nonverbal and don't know how to > play with > peers because of too much time alone at the computer. > > First-graders who are unable to understand what they > read because they > lack a rudimentary language base they typically get from > peer and adult > interaction. > > ''In putting little kids at the computer, you take them > away from peer play,'' > says Sloan. ''That compromises social development and > imagination.'' Not > only that, but a child is being provided with someone > else's visual images at > precisely the time when he needs to be developing his > own image-making > capacities. ''That's what leads to intellectual growth > later,'' Sloan says. The > same thing is true with too much TV time, but studies > show parents monitor > TV more. ''We've come to ascribe almost magical > educational qualities to > the computer,'' he says. He researches how to protect > children from > computer misuse. > > Problems with computer exposure aren't limited to early > childhood. Bill > Schechter, a history teacher at Lincoln-Sudbury Regional > High School, says > he knows the Internet has the capacity to be a > tremendous tool for research, > but so far he hasn't seen how. > > ''I'm getting to the point where I'm not going to accept > Internet research,'' he > says. ''The technology for cheating far outdistances a > teacher's ability to > recognize it. All I'm seeing is lazy Internet use, where > kids use it as an excuse > not to open a book, not to check sources, not to go to > the library.'' > > Software researcher Howard Budin says one of the > problems is the vastness > of the Internet. Last year, his son's sixth-grade > research project required two > Internet sources. ''When he did a search for `panda,' he > turned up 54,000 > entries! If I hadn't been there with him, he would have > been totally > frustrated,'' he says. Most of the entries were for > schools with pandas for > mascots, but it took even an experienced navigator like > Budin a half-hour to > get to appropriate sites. > > Budin, who is director of the Center for Technology and > School Change at > Columbia, says exposure to the Internet should start in > third or fourth grade, > not before. ''Introduce it as a source of information, > not entertainment,'' he > says. > > Even so, it can lead to the kind of problems teachers > like Schechter see. > > ''Who's teaching these kids how to use it and where the > information comes > from and what it means?'' asks Sloan. > > He says that in the rush to wire classrooms, these > critical questions are > largely ignored. ''Data itself is not knowledge,'' says > Sloan. ''It's only > knowledge when you connect it thoughtfully and > critically to curriculum.'' > > In many schools, the problem is lack of human > infrastructure, says > technology researcher Vicki O'Day, of the Xerox Palo > Alto Research > Center. She speaks admiringly of a new principal at an > elementary school in > California who had the courage to shut down the computer > lab for two years > until she had technical support and curricula-links. > > She says a school needs to fund two positions, a > technology coordinator > who keeps equipment up and running and is not a teacher, > and a curriculum > development person who is a teacher but not in the > classroom. ''You can't > expect a classroom teacher to be knowledgeable about > software and the > Internet in addition to what she already does,'' O'Day > says. > > She also tells schools to put computers in the > classroom, not in a computer > lab; they're more likely to be integrated into the > curriculum and to be seen as > one more tool, along with a dictionary and pencil > sharpener. ''We used to > think kids should do computer just for the sake of doing > computer,'' says > O'Day. ''Uh-uh. It should always be used for a > purpose.'' > > For parents, this means restricting the computer to > what's useful and > forgetting about what's entertaining. > > Healy, who's a purist about this, would limit a young > child's access to e-mail > to write to grandpa, or to sitting on your lap while you > download pictures of > her favorite animal or truck. > > Steve Bennett, who reviews software and is author of > ''The Plugged-in > Parent'' (Times Books), tells parents to think of > themselves as ''parentware.'' > He defines that as an involved parent. ''It's just as > important as software,'' he > says. > > In his home, the computer is one resource among many and > it's not used as a > babysitter or as entertainment. He enforces limits on > screen time - his kids, 8 > and 11, can have two half-hour sessions a day, after > homework, although he > says they hardly ever use it - and restrictions on > software: no ''drill and grill'' > games, shoot'em-ups, or Internet surfing. Budin has > similiar restrictions for > his children; his sixth-grade son spends his computer > time on spread sheets, > graphic programs, and 3-D renderings. > > In addition to setting limits on software, Sloan says, > parents should avoid > what he calls an adulatory attitude toward the computer. > If your child is > young and you're just starting out, ''Look at it as an > appliance,'' he says. > > And if you already have a 4- or 6- or 9-year-old who's > hooked on > computer games? > > It's never too late to talk about family values, even to > say you've made a > mistake about allowing certain games. ''The ultimate > challenge and most > successful counter,'' says Sloan, ''is to provide such a > rich environment in > your home that the games seem dull compared to whatever > else is going on.'' > > AFTERTHOUGHT - Recommended reading for 3- to > 7-year-olds: ''How > to Take Your Grandmother to the Museum'' (Workman > Publishing), by Lois > Wyse and her granddaughter, Molly Rose Goldman. > > Child Caring appears every Thursday in At Home. Barbara > F. Meltz > welcomes letters and comments and can be reached via > e-mail at > meltz(a)globe.com. > hmm! > > This story ran on page F01 of the Boston Globe on 10/01/98. > (c) Copyright 1998 Globe Newspaper Company. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: early reports from Austria: possible crypto stalemate (fwd)
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text To: cryptography(a)c2.net Cc: M Taylor <mctaylor(a)privacy.nb.ca>, djones(a)efc.ca Subject: Re: early reports from Austria: possible crypto stalemate (fwd) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:04:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Beaver <beaver+(a)transarc.com> Sender: owner-cryptography(a)c2.net M Taylor writes: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > P.S. If anyone happens to be fluent in German, maybe you could help us > by translating, or summarizing, in English: > > http://www.mediaweb.at/akmg/news/wassenaar.html Disclaimer: I don't make any claim to real fluency in German (I never took a class), so there may be mistakes. But I think this is pretty accurate. --Don Beaver <H2> Journalist Trade Union Protests the Cancellation of Special Arrangements for Encryption Programs in the Wassenaar Agreement </H2> <H3> At a meeting of experts on the Wassenaar Agreement in Vienna, the cancellation of exceptions for cryptographic public-domain software and shareware was negotiated. The real goal of the agreement is the control and transparency of transfers of military and so-called dual-use goods - products and technologies that can be used for both military and civilian purposes. The Wassenaar Agreement lists Information Security and encryption technology, in the form of software encryption programs or hardware, under the Dual Use category 5.2. </H3> <P> There are to be further efforts to eliminate the exceptions for public-domain cryptographic software and shareware (usually free over the Internet or by CD-ROM distribution), and thereby place each kind of encryption software under the monitoring and restriction of the Wassenaar agreement. <P> The journalist trade union is protesting vehemently, because free access by journalists and the media to encryption programs is threatened. Encryption programs play a rapidly increasing role in the protection of electronic network communications for the media and jounalists. It is not difficult to monitor electronic mail automatically and make copies without recipients or senders ever taking notice. Investigative journalism on organized crime, corruption, and illegal arms trafficking, for example, may be endangered by the lack of protected communication, because the privacy of research is not ensured, especially when it takes place internationally. <P> Not only will editorial privacy be damaged but also the protection of information sources, as well as the protection of the private sphere. Not only must the protection of communication between journalists and media be ensured but also between journalists and media and their information sources, which cannot be limited to a special circle of acquaintances. <P> Attempts to permit programs that just encode with a key whose duplicate is placed with authorities cannot provide a way out. With such duplicate keys, all encoded messages can be decoded. But there is no guarantee that this duplicate key will not arrive in the unauthorized hands of organized crime, for example, or that is it not used by individual members of the authority or intelligence services in an unauthorized manner. <P> The information surrounding the Wassenaar Agreement is also precarious: at present, each discussion in the Wassenaar Agreement falls under the privacy of "privileged diplomatic communication" (Point IX) and the application of resolutions are to be implemented using "national discretion" (Point II.3). Thus, the targets of the Wassenaar Agreement are counterproductive(?): companies whose doubtful weapons shipments were forbidden remain spared from public criticism, just like failed decisions. <H3>Therefore the journalist trade union demands:</H3> <UL> <LI> Elimination of cryptography from the list of "dual-use" goods entered by the Wassenaar Agreement. No limitation of cryptography to insecure (respectively, key duplication/escrow) encryption techniques. <LI> Democratic control/monitoring of the Wassenaar Agreement: No modification of the rules and jurisdiction of the Wassenaar Agreement without prior public discussion. <LI> Obligatory public reporting on activities in the context of the Wassenaar Agreement. </UL> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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IP: Clear and present danger: FIGHT AGAINST NATIONAL ID CARD
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "A.C." <angie(a)computerhut.net> Subject: IP: Clear and present danger: FIGHT AGAINST NATIONAL ID CARD Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 01:22:50 -0700 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com >>http://www.house.gov/barr/p_doj.html >> >> >September 17, 1998 BARR TAKES FIGHT AGAINST NATIONAL ID CARD TO HEARINGS, SPEARHEADS EFFORT WITH GRASSROOTS GROUPS WASHINGTON, DC -- At a news conference before a hearing on federal attempts to establish a national identification system, U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) released the following statement. The hearings, which will be held later today by the Government Reform and Oversight Committee's Subcommittee on National Economic Growth, Natural Resources, and Regulatory Affairs, will focus on this issue. "One of the most precious liberties Americans possess is the ability to live their lives without a big-brother government, with vast power, looking over their shoulders at every opportunity. Our federal government is already too powerful, too expensive, and too intrusive. We should be working to reduce its size and cost, rather than expanding it. "Our Founding Fathers intended to create a system with division of power between three branches of government and between the state and federal governments in order to protect our rights. These moves to centralize power in the executive branch of the federal government by establishing a national identification card system represent an effort to disrupt the balance of power that has served our nation so well for so long. We must put a stop to these initiatives, begun in 1996 when legislation authorizing a national i.d. was snuck into an omnibus spending bill with no debate, public input, or vote, before it is too late to do so." "I thank all of the groups that have been involved in this effort for their continued support. I also appreciate the willingness of State Representative George Grindley (R-Marietta) and others to take time away from their jobs and families to testify this morning. These hearings are part of a continuing effort by Barr and others to stop several recent intrusive government proposals. He has introduced legislation to stop federally-mandated standardization of state drivers' licenses, end a move to create a national health identifier, and led the effort to halt FBI moves for new wiretapping authority and the ability to track cellular phone users and lawful gun owners. Barr, a former United States Attorney, serves on the House Judiciary and Government Reform Committees. --30-- BACK TO PRESS RELEASES BACK TO MEDIA INFORMATION BACK TO MAIN PAGE > ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!...
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Personally, I favor the "Pournelle Solution": acquire a 10-mile by 10-mile > region of the Mojave Desert. Not in an "ecologically interesting" area of > Death Valley, but just out in the vast scrublands. Erect a double fence > around it, and perhaps even a minefield (if one is worried about thefts of > nuclear waste). Pile the spent fuel rods, medical gear, gloves, etc. on > pallets separated by wide roads from other pallets. This "solves" the > waste problem for at least a matter of many decades, by which time various > technologies will likely have presented other and better solutions. Cost is > low, convenience is high, safety is good, environmental polllution is nil. So what do you do when it rains? It does rain in the Mojave desert, you know. And it rains hard, in the summer thunderstorm season. That's a lot of water to sluice away radioactive material into the washes and arroyos, leading down to populated areas.

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Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:22:24 +0200 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Subject: Re: I thought of an initialy regulated industry!... > > Personally, I favor the "Pournelle Solution": acquire a 10-mile by 10-mile > > region of the Mojave Desert. Not in an "ecologically interesting" area of As was pointed out it does rain out there. Though there is a more insidious issue that makes such attempts worthless. Here's how it works... Humidity in the air settles on the materials. Because of the daily temperature extremes the expansion of this water causes the materials to break into very small particles. The wind comes along and transports these particles downwind. I'll leave the rest to your imagination and a couple of hours with a geology text on erosion. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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IP: [Part 1 & 2] THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY By David M. Bresnahan
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Kepi <kepi(a)netdoor.com> Subject: IP: [Part 1 & 2] THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY By David M. Bresnahan Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:37:09 -0500 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com For those who may have missed this report; all others, please disregard. Kepi <>< ...........<Begin Forwarded Message>........... >X-Sender: cabhop(a)mail.highfiber.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:57:22 -0600 >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >From: Robert Huddleston <cabhop(a)highfiber.com> >Subject: THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY [ Part 1 & 2 ] By David M. Bresnahan > > >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/exclusiv/980929.exbre_clintons_secr.html >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/exclusiv/980930_exbre_clintons_secr.html > >SEPTEMBER 29 & 30, 1998 > > >THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY >Clinton's secret war games >He's scheming for strike to make him international hero > > >This is the first of a two-part series on the >revelations of military computer expert Curt Tomlin. > >By David M. Bresnahan >Copyright 1998, WorldNetDaily.com > >President Bill Clinton is playing war games >on a top secret computer to come up with a >way to be an international hero, according to >the man who designed the system. > >According to Rev. Curt Tomlin, a former >member of the battle staff of both presidents >John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, >Clinton is a desperate man who is like an >animal trapped in a corner. He will do >anything to regain his credibility and deflect >criticism from his impending impeachment >hearings, he says. He also is driven by his >desire to create a positive legacy of his time in >the White House, according to various >reports. > >Clinton's motivations are dangerous to the >security of our nation, according to Tomlin. It >was Tomlin who designed and perfected the >Pentagon's first war games computer system, >the top secret "Single Integrated Operating Procedure." > >The "SIOP" computer is a method of targeting >a military attack and evaluating the most >likely response to that attack, according to >Tomlin. Highly classified intelligence >information is gathered from all over the >world by the CIA and other sources, placed in >the computer, and then accessed by Clinton to >play his own personal war games. > >"The decisions he's making right now are >totally illogical and irresponsible," Tomlin >told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview. >"Looking at the power and everything he's got >at his finger tips. That's a dangerous situation >for a spastic individual." > >Tomlin has maintained silence about the top >secret program for many years. He has been >called out of retirement three times and has >served in the Navy, Air Force, and Army for a >combined total of just over 24 years. He has >also been hired by government contractors to >assist in computer intelligence systems >designed to improve security for military >computer systems. > >"I could be sticking my neck on the chopping >block for a number of reasons," said Tomlin of >his decision to make his information public. >"Number one is, I'm still under some lifetime >restrictions on security clearances. For >example two of the clearances I had above top >secret was ESI and category 7 and 9. That was >three above that. Those are lifetime. So I have >to be a little bit careful about what I put in >print. I think people have to be aware of this, >regardless of the consequences on my end. I >feel that I would be guilty of the military >crime of negligence of duty if I did not bring >this to somebody's attention," explained >Tomlin. > >Clinton had tried to become an international >hero by destroying hundreds of terrorists >being trained by Osama bin Laden in >Afghanistan and a chemical weapons plant in >Sudan. Those two missile attacks were chosen >through use of the SIOP computer to which >Clinton has access, according to Tomlin. > >The computer predicted the result of the >attacks would bring about the death of >hundreds of terrorist forces and eliminate a >chemical weapons factory. Someone >intervened to change the results, according to >an intelligence source who spoke only on >condition of anonymity. > >Reports in European newspapers after the >attacks by Clinton corroborate what that >source claimed. "There were no dead >terrorists, and the chemical weapons plant >was an innocent pharmaceutical plant. Instead >of being a hero, Clinton is an international >laughing stock. The terrorists were tipped off >and cleared the area. The real chemical >weapons plant was two miles away. It was a >combination of bad intelligence and >purposeful intervention," said the source. > >Clinton has been searching the SIOP system >ever since the failure in an effort to find >another opportunity to prove himself to the >world and become the international hero he >envisions for his legacy, according to the >source. Tomlin agrees. > >"There's no choice. He's either going to sink or >try again. We can look for some very >unpleasant responses, depending on the >target he chooses," says Tomlin. > >When Clinton actually succeeds at inflicting >damage to a group of international terrorists, >many experts believe there will be swift and >deadly retaliation. Americans are in danger of >massive chemical and biological attacks in >major metropolitan areas, as well as similar >attacks on large military bases. >Tomlin says he is personally aware of >unprotected water supplies to domestic >military bases that could provide terrorists an >opportunity to poison the drinking water >used by most of the nation's military. >"When you contaminate a water supply ... >that's almost beyond my comprehension," he >remarked. The open borders of the United >States make it a simple process for terrorists >to come into the country and bring their >weapons of mass destruction with them >without detection," he says. "They can come >and go as they please with any kind of cargo. >That border is literally wide open, regardless >of what INS tells you," warned Tomlin. > >Tomlin believes there are many terrorist >agents already located in the United States >waiting for orders to strike. Other sources >have independently confirmed that claim but >were unwilling to be identified. > >"There's no doubt that the U.S. is currently in >the greatest danger of massive domestic >attack from an external enemy than ever >before in our nation's history," agreed one >intelligence source who is equally concerned >about Clinton pushing such terrorists to the >point to massive retaliation. "They just need >an excuse," he said. > >"Of course, the president has available to him >an awesome military force that he can use to >launch a first strike on any target in the >world," explained Tomlin of the top secret >system available to Clinton. "One of the things >I have been real concerned about recently is >the type of response that we can expect from >these various targets that the president can >choose from. For example, if he chose to hit >target A, the computer system would come >back and tell him what kind of response he >can expect. Will that response be in the nature >of an explosive response like blowing up an >embassy? Will it be in the form of a chemical >or biological response, or a combination of the >two? And it will also tell him, will the >response be a psychological or political >response, or a combination of any of these? In >other words, the system will come back and >tell him exactly what he can expect the owners >of that target to do in retaliation," explained >Tomlin, the father of that real-life computer >war game. > >"We got an awful lot of our information >through CIA on site sources where these >various targets were located," Tomlin says. >"We could tell you anything you wanted to >know about that target. How thick the walls >were, if it were a structure, how far under >ground it goes. How many megatons of >explosives it would take to wipe it out totally, >or give you 50 percent destruction, or 75 >percent destruction. We could just tell you >anything you wanted to know about that >target." >The highly advanced computer system as >well as the automated launch and attack >systems enable Clinton to initiate an attack >without the knowledge of very many other >individuals. Such decisions could be made by >Clinton alone, or with just a few political >advisers. Military and security advisers could >be left in the dark. > >"That's what bothers me today," says Tomlin. >"Given the fact that the man in the White >House now has his finger on the trigger, and >he can launch those forces which still consist >of atomic warheads on any intercontinental >ballistic missile. He can create a situation that >could be very detrimental to this country. >There are certain things that I'm really >concerned about at this point in time >concerning the highly probable responses that >the president can expect as the result of >striking certain targets." > >With SIOP, Clinton can sit at his private >computer and play war games until he finds >the situation he likes best. He can literally >type in various attacks around the world and >the SIOP computer will tell him what will be >the likely results of such an attack. With the >push of a button he can turn the computer >simulation he likes best into reality. > >"The ones I am concerned about now is the >possibility of a chemical or biological >response to a specific strike that he would >initiate," said Tomlin of his fear. "Simply >because an explosive response is limited in >scope. It's a token. It's a warning. But when >you drop a very small amount of biological or >chemical agents into the water supply of a >large city of Dallas or Houston, my friend, we >have a problem in that area. You can bring >these agents through customs on our southern >border almost undetected. There's just very >little possibility of these things being detected >coming through Customs or just walking >across the border in a deserted area." > >Tomlin created the SIOP computer back in >1963 when he served on the Kennedy battle >staff. He continued to serve on the Johnson >battle staff as well. Since then he has helped >the military work on numerous top secret >defense projects and information systems. > >Tomlin did his work in the top secret >underground "site R," as well as in the >Pentagon war room. His work was considered >so critical that he had a 24-hour armed Marine >guard watching over him. > >Although Tomlin is now retired, he still lives >by Fort Hood in Texas and has many >neighbors who are current and former >military. He claims there are many who are >getting out of the service because of Clinton. > >"Unfortunately," says Tomlin, "that's the >sentiment that is running rampant among >military people in this area. If you cannot >trust your leader, then we have a problem. >This man cannot be trusted. They are >deserting (their careers). I'm talking about our >combat experienced veterans. They're giving >up 18 years, 17 years and so forth and getting >out because they can no longer trust their >leader. They don't want to be a part of what he >might create." >Tomlin expects Clinton to launch an attack >very soon that will bring devastating >domestic retaliation to the U.S. >"If I were still on active duty, either as an >enlisted man or as a commissioned officer, >knowing what I know now, looking at all of >the information I have available to me, I >would have no choice but to resign my >commission or terminate my enlistment >simply because there is no way that I could >now trust my commander in chief," said Tomlin. > >THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY >Clinton's secret war games -- part 2 >He has the power to disable electronics >anywhere in the world > >This is the second of a two-part series on Clinton's secret >war games and the concerns of the man who helped invent >them. > >By David M. Bresnahan >Copyright 1998, WorldNetDaily.com >We are living in a new age of electronic warfare >which could make every electrical device from >military tanks to clock radios inoperative, according >to one of the people responsible for such weapons >systems. > >President Bill Clinton could enter a few key strokes >on a computer and selectively disable all electronics >anywhere in the world, including within the U.S., >using a top secret satellite system known as "LEO." >That ability is not unique to the U.S., however. Other >countries and even terrorists could knock out >electronics equipment anywhere in the world. > >Rev. Curt Tomlin, 65, is a retired Army major with 24 >years combined service in the Navy, Air Force, and >Army. He was a member of the battle staff for the >Kennedy and Johnson administrations and >developed top secret computer systems for the >Pentagon. His unique expertise prompted the >military to bring him out of retirement three times to >put his skills to use in the development of war >games computers, security computer systems and >the testing of electronics warfare. >Tomlin gave an exclusive interview to >WorldNetDaily to express his concerns about >national security. He says the U.S. is in grave danger >because of a president who is desperate to hang on >to his position of power at all cost. > >In an exclusive WorldNetDaily article yesterday, >Tomlin detailed his fears that Clinton is using a war >games computer to find a new target he can attack. >Clinton's goal, according to Tomlin, is to become an >international hero. Tomlin, who created the nation's >first computer war game system, known as "SIOP," >for the Pentagon, fears that Clinton's actions will >bring devastating retaliation from terrorists who are >just waiting for an excuse to activate their plan of >domestic attack against the U.S. > >Although Tomlin believes the greatest danger to the >U.S. is from biological and chemical weapons, he is >also concerned about electronic warfare. Tomlin >believes Clinton is very upset with a large portion of >the nation that wants him impeached. He says >Clinton is planning a way to get back at his enemies >in a big way. > >"This man (Clinton) is extremely vindictive and he's >going to get back at the country one way or another," >said Tomlin, who is also concerned about Clinton's >recent attempt to use the SIOP computer to attack >alleged terrorist sites in Afghanistan and Sudan. >Tomlin believes new attacks are imminent in order >to turn the previous failure to damage the terrorists >into a major victory that will make Clinton an >international hero. > >Tomlin expects domestic retaliation from the next >attack by Clinton to be devastating. He says terrorists >are already in the U.S. awaiting orders to attack, a >claim supported by a recently intercepted fax sent >world wide to 5,000 "soldiers" loyal to Osama bin >Laden. The faxed order, reported in London and >Jerusalem newspapers recently, tells the terrorists to >be prepared to attack U.S. and Israel in four ways >very soon. >According to the fax, the attacks would be designed to > >Bring commercial airlines to a halt >Stop all maritime traffic >Occupy U.S. embassies around the world >Shut down U.S. banking > >Such actions would seem difficult to achieve, but >Tomlin says it would actually be easy to accomplish >with access to electronics warfare devices. Although >his greatest concern is chemical or biological attack, >he said he would not be surprised if the attack came >through electronics. Virtually everything from >military aircraft to TV remotes would be disabled, >according to Tomlin. >Tomlin was called out of retirement in 1995 to >participate in a top secret project. He worked in the >10th Mountain Division as a senior test plan analyst. > >"You know that your automobile has an electronic >ignition in it," explained Tomlin. "It also has a >computer inside that. Did you know that we can >immobilize every moving vehicle in this country >with a few key strokes of a computer, all at the same >time? > >"By using the LEO satellites," he described, "you can >disrupt the computers. You can stop that electronic >ignition. It's all electronically based. You can >interfere with it and stop it dead in it's tracks." > >Tomlin also worked on tests dealing with laser >technology and the global positioning system, but he >did not provide details of those tests or their >purpose. He did say the testing was extensive and >was all for military purposes. >It is clear that China and other countries have this >same technology, agreed Tomlin. He believes the >recent intercepted bin Laden fax is evidence that >terrorists have this same ability. Electronic warfare >would make all four of the stated goals easily attainable. > >Tomlin is risking legal action by the Pentagon for >revealing top secret information. That's a risk he says >he is willing to take because of the danger he >believes has been caused by an out-of-control president. > >"The decisions he's making right now are totally >illogical and irresponsible," said Tomlin about his >concerns regarding Clinton. "Looking at the power >and everything he's got at his finger tips. That's a >dangerous situation for a spastic individual." Tomlin >has maintained silence about the top secret program >for many years, but now he feels compelled to speak >out. > >"I could be sticking my neck on the chopping block >for a number of reasons," said Tomlin of his decision >to make his information public. "Number one is I'm >still under some lifetime restrictions on security >clearances. For example two of the clearances I had >above top secret was ESI and category 7 and 9. That >was three above that. Those are lifetime. So I have to >be a little bit careful about what I put in print. >"I think people have to be aware of this, regardless of >the consequences on my end. I feel that I would be >guilty of the military crime of negligence of duty if I >did not bring this to somebody's attention," >explained Tomlin. > >Is this all part of a planned conspiracy? Or is this a >president gone mad? Tomlin said he would not be >surprised by either scenario. > >"If that's the way it turns out, I will not be at all >surprised," he said. "When you put all of the pieces >of the puzzle together you see how it all fits together. > >"The ultimate end product of these programs the >government has been working on is to create a >generation of people who will readily accept sudden >and radical change without question, without >objection, and without opposition. That's the goal of >these programs in a nutshell. This is headed toward >a one-world government without any question >what-so-ever, he warns. These programs have been >going on for a long time. People need to pay >attention to what Outcome-Based Education is all >about, what Goals 2000 is all about, and these other >socialistic programs that are leading in this direction. >It's upon us," warned Tomlin. > >In recent years Tomlin has been teaching and writing >college courses dealing with electronic data >processing. He tells his students, "If you can think of >it, you can do it. Your only limitation is your own >imagination. There are no limitations when it comes >to electronics. > >"Y2K is going to be one of the biggest problems >you've ever seen in your life, coupled with the other >intentional (electronic) interferences we're talking >about." > >Tomlin says he entered a Navy competition back in >1963 for a mystery computer assignment. After two >weeks of competition with many others who wanted >the top secret, undisclosed position, Tomlin was >notified to pack his bags and report to the Pentagon. >"I had no idea what I would be doing until I walked >into the front door. I had to compete for that job. At >that time there were 700 of us in the Navy who had >shown specific talent and progress for designing >information and processing systems. That was Navy >wide because data processing was so new at that >time," explained Tomlin. > >"There was three places we worked out of. Site R, >which was the underground command post, the war >room in the Pentagon -- the JCS war room. We also >had a facility on the North Hampton, which was a >light cruiser. That was also the Presidents alternate >battle site on that cruiser. Later we also had a facility >on the U.S. Wright, which was a converted jeep >carrier from World War II." > >When he first arrived he was the youngest, 30, and >lowest ranked, petty officer, member of the Kennedy >battle staff. No one on the team knew just what they >wanted or expected from Tomlin, so he just observed >and tried to find ways to put his skills to use. > >"Nobody on the battle team was capable of telling >me what they wanted me to do," he said. "So I >iddled around there for a couple of weeks just >watching what the rest of the battle staff did during >their exercises and their presidential briefings and >stuff like that. Kind of with my hands in my pockets. >We had a worldwide battle exercise and I wandered >around the war room and watched them post the >status boards, the maps, and process the 'twixes' as >we called them back then. That's all the messages >and the strikes and the targets. Finally, I concluded >that these guys were doing this the hard way." >Tomlin, accompanied by his armed Marine guard >who was with him 24 hours a day, went to work in >the seclusion of his underground war room at site R. >He began putting together some very simple >procedures using IBM punch cards on the latest and >greatest computer 1963 technology had to offer. >Within just a few weeks another war game was >called and Tomlin was ready to show off his >creation, which he created totally on his own. > >"We had a war game, and while they were doing >heir thing out there, nobody paid any attention to >me and nobody knew I was around. So I went back >and I got copies of all the incoming data and I did >my thing and I threw my shoulders back one day >and just started posting the status boards and >everybody else -- all these lieutenant colonels and >colonels and brigadier generals and everybody else >-- were all gathered around the conference table and >somebody said, 'Tomlin what the hell are you >doing?' I said, 'Well, I'm plotting the results of these >various strikes.' And they said, 'Who told you to do >that?' I said, 'Nobody did.' > >"They got to looking at their conclusions and my >conclusions and they were identical. What took 30 or >40 folks for them to do, well I did it by myself in just >a matter of minutes," described Tomlin of his first >war games computer program. So that got their >attention, and that's where everything started. So the >next time around they used my computerized war >game, which was the first one the Department of >Defense ever had. Then later I got tasked to build a >system for the targets, and then the rate of >production for atomic weapons storage and >accountability, and all that good stuff. It just kind of >exploded (military computer assignments) from >there." > >The military had never called retirees back into >full-time active duty until they needed Tomlin >during the Gulf War. They needed him and didn't >have a policy in place that enabled them to bring him >back, pay him, and give him credit towards his >retirement benefits. >Tomlin is listed as a military resource with critical >skills, so the government made the necessary >changes in policy and got him back for a full year of >service. During that time he worked in the national >records center in St. Louis, MO, to install new >computer systems and redesign internal security for >6.9 million records. The commercial company he >worked with to accomplish the task is owned by >Ross Perot, he pointed out. >As the pioneer of computerized war games, and >other information systems, Tomlin is obviously >proud of his work. He is speaking out because he >believes Clinton is a desperate man trying to save his >position of power at any cost. He believes Clinton is >not acting rationally and is about to subject the U.S. >to grave danger from international terrorists. Tomlin >says he is willing to accept the personal risk he is >taking by revealing sensitive information about >military systems and capabilities. > >Tomlin, is now a minister, and is the director of the >Christian Alert Network. He devotes his time to >informing pastors and concerned Christians of >problems he sees in government schools. He actively >promotes home schooling, private schools and >reform of public schools, which he says are being >used by the government to manipulate the beliefs of >children and take away parental rights. > >"The primary purpose of the Christian Alert Network >(TCAN)," states his web page, "is to inform >individual Christian citizens on specific situations >that adversely impact upon our basic Christian >doctrine, religious freedom and traditional families >and to encourage them to participate in the >governmental process, in obedience to the Holy >Scriptures and according to the intent of our >Founding Fathers." > > > > > > David Bresnahan, a WorldNetDaily contributing editor, >hosts "Talk USA Investigative Reports" and is the author >of "Cover Up: The Art and Science of Political Deception." > His email address is David(a)talkusa.com. > > > > > > <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< > >SOCIALIST > 1. socialism > ( Noun ] > : social organization based on goverment control of the >production and distribution of goods. > ***** > "Gun registration is not enough." > Attorney General Janet Reno, > December 10,1993 (Associated Press) > > "Waiting periods are only a step. > Registration is only a step. > The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." > - Janet Reno > >************************************************* >"But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to >warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that >man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman >accountable for his blood." >Ezekiel 33:6 (NIV) >___________________________________________________________ >New toll-free hotline to Congress >Congress is making a new toll-free number available for >citizens who would like to make their voices heard in >Washington. 1-800-504-0031 >Ask for your Congressman office and let him know >what you think............. >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Join Gun Owners of America [ GOA ] today. >Read more about GOA at : http://www.gunowners.org/ >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) >Become a JPFO member, go to: http://www.jpfo.org/member.htm >There you will see a printable member application, along with >info on membership Membership IS open to ALL Law >abiding citizens. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > ><@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< <@{{>< > > > > > > ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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Rain in Death Valley (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "X" <xasper8d(a)lobo.net> > Subject: Rain in Death Valley > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:37:47 -0600 > If the area you refer to is below sea-level, where would the hard-rains > runoff run off to? Let me say one word.... watertable Enjoy drinking the runoff. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:35:28 -0500 > From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Nothing is as stable on NT as it is on a (properly installed) linux > system. That is the point after all. > Your NT systems are installed improperly then. You should be able > to get at least a week, if not 2 out of them. I'll beg to differ with you. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Casio Computer offers 1,000,000 Yen encryption challenge
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: William Knowles <erehwon(a)kizmiaz.dis.org> Subject: Casio Computer offers 1,000,000 Yen encryption challenge Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) To: cryptography(a)c2.net TOKYO, Sept. 25 /PRNewswire/ -- CASIO COMPUTER CO., LTD. announces development of the MDSR (Multi-Dimensional Space Rotation) encryption system for Internet and Intranet data. MDSR is a new encryption system designed to meet the need for high-level digital data security, which has been generated with the growth of the Internet and Intranets. The encryption system used by MDSR is based on Multi-Dimensional Space Rotation (MDSR) and Time-Dependent Multi-Dimensional Space Rotation (MDSR-TD). The main features of this encryption system are: the larger the space dimension the more difficult it is to break the code, no special hardware requirements for encryption or decryption, and the ability to narrowly regulate hierarchy and decryption privileges. The result is an encryption system that provides versatile private data management, confidential mail security, and security for data sent to multiple destinations. Since MDSR also enhances security for data on an Internet server, it is also suitable for use by system administrators and Internet Service Providers. The contest that is detailed on the CASIO Home Page starts from September 24, with a cash prize for the person who successfully breaks a message encoded with MDSR. CASIO plans to use MDSR in future CASIO data communication products. Contest Details Term: September 26, 1998 to November 26, 1998 (JST) Encrypted Text: Visit the CASIO Website for details. http://www.casio.co.jp/en/ [WK Note: 1,000,000 Yen is worth $7344.84 U.S.D.] == I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover == http://www.dis.org/erehwon/

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Been there....Done that....
by jenny672＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Consider this, MILLIONS of people "surf the Internet" everyday, all day, all over the World! FIFTY THOUSAND new people get on the Internet every month! An excellent source of names is the people who send you other programs, and the names listed on the letter they send you. Your contact source is UNLIMITED. It boggles my mind to think of all the possibilities! Mail, or should I say Email, your letter TODAY! It's so easy, ONE HOUR of your time. THAT'S IT! To send your newsletter by Email: 1. Go to "Edit" and "Select All" 2. Go to "Edit" and "Copy" 3. Start (compose) a new Email message 4. Address your Email and Subject Blocks 5. Go to "Edit" and "Paste" After you have pasted this article in your new Email, delete the old header and footer (Subject, Date, To, From, Etc..). Now you can edit the names and addresses with ease. I recommend deleting the top name, adding your name and address to the bottom of the list, then simply changing the numbers. THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DO. When your name reaches the first position in a few days, it will be your turn to collect your gifts. The gifts will be sent to you by 1,500 to 2,000 people like yourself, who are willing to invest US$5.00 and one hour to receive US$10,000 in cash. That s all! There will be a total of US$10,000 (or more) in US$5.00 bills in your mailbox in two weeks. US$10,000 for an hour's work! I think it s WORTH IT, don t you? GO AHEAD -- TRY IT. IT'S US$5.00! EVEN IF YOU JUST MAKE 3 OR 4 THOUSAND, WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE?! IF YOU TRY IT, IT WILL PAY!!!! --------TRUE STORY-------- Cindy Allen writes: I ran this gift summation four times last year. The first time I received over $7,000 in cash in less than two weeks and over $10,000 in cash in the next three times I ran it. I can't begin to tell you how great it feels not to have to worry about money anymore! I thank God for the day I received this letter! It has truly changed my life! Don t be afraid to make gifts to strangers, theyll come back to you ten-fold. So, let's keep it going and help each other in these "tough and uncertain times." Many of us just want to pay off our bills, buy a new car or buy a new home for our family. Whatever your reasons or needs are, this program worked for Cindy and thousands of others (just like you and I) time and time again! THIS PROGRAM CAN AND WILL WORK FOR YOU!!! --------Can I Do It Again? -------- OF COURSE YOU CAN...This plan is structured for everyone to send only twenty(20) letters each. However, you are certainly not limited to twenty. Mail out as many as you can. Every twenty letters you send has a return to you of $10,000 or more. If you can mail forty, sixty, eighty, or whatever, GO FOR IT! THE MORE YOU PUT INTO IT, THE MORE YOU GET OUT OF IT! Each time you run this program, just follow the steps (1) through (3) and everyone on your gift list benefits! Simple enough? You bet it is! Besides, there are no mailing lists to buy (and wait for), no further trips to the printer or copiers, and you can do it again and again with your regular group of gifters, or start up a new group. Some people produce a mailing list of opportunity seekers and send out 200 or more. Why not? It beats working! Each time you receive a MLM offer in the mail, respond with THIS letter! Your name will climb to the number one position at dizzying geometric rates. Follow the simple instructions and above all, please "PLAY FAIR." That's the key to this program's success. Your name must run the "full gamut" on the list to produce the end results. "Sneaking" your name higher up on the list WILL NOT produce the results you think, and it only cheats the other people who have worked hard and earned the right to be there. So please, play by the rules and the $$,$$$ will come to you!!! --------Mail Your Letters Out Today-------- $$$ TOGETHER, WE WILL ALL PROSPER $$$ Mail your US$5.00 "Gift" to the first name on the list ONLY. Remove the first name and move the other two up one place and put your name in the #3 position. GOOD LUCK!!! ************************************************************************ 1. G.U PO Box 1437 Monterey Park, CA 91754 2. Jorge S. 40 Newport Pkwy Apt. 214 Jersey City, NJ 07310 3. Sun Prod 1350 E. Flamingo Rd. suite #426 Las Vegas, NV 89119 ******************************************************************* Remember your total cost for participation is only $5.32 $5 gift and 32 cent stamp to mail it. Email this today to people that need an extra income fast.....thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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MEDIA RELEASE: Data Fellows and TSP to Cooperate
by Marita N�sman-Repo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Press Release For immediate release Data Fellows Strengthens Its Position as Leading Data Security Vendor in Europe TSP and Its Worldwide Partner Network Joins Data Fellows Helsinki, Finland, October 2, 1998 - Data Fellows, the developer of the ground-breaking F-Secure Anti-Virus and Cryptography product family, and the Dutch company TSP - The Security Provider have signed a cooperation and distribution agreement. TSP, whose owners were behind ThunderByte anti-virus toolkit, currently has over 40 distributors and 12 million ThunderByte users world-wide. TSP specializes in security consultancy and marketing of information security products. According to the announced cooperation agreement, TSP will concentrate on selling Data Fellows products in the Netherlands, and its international operations and distribution network will be taken over by Data Fellows and its partners. "The addition of TSP to our list of partners will be yet another step toward our goal of being among the top data security providers in the world." says Risto Siilasmaa, President and CEO of Data Fellows. "Together with Data Fellows complete line of data security products, TSPs network of distributors around the world is going to make a valuable contribution to our existing world wide partner network that already covers over 80 countries." Says Harald Zeeman of TSP, "The anti-virus market structures are changing. The customers today demand overall data security solutions instead of point applications. Therefore it is important for a small company like ours to form alliances and thereby to remain viable. The future belongs to those who have the broadest expertise and service to its customers. "With this alliance we are able to serve our existing customer base by offering them migration not only to the award-winning F-Secure Anti-Virus product range but above all to the F-Secure Workstation Suite which Data Fellows recently announced." TSP was founded in 1998 after Norman Data Defense Systems B.V. took over the development of the ThunderByte scanning engine. About Data Fellows Data Fellows is one of the worlds leading developers of data security products. The Company develops, markets and supports anti-virus, data security and cryptography software products for corporate computer networks. It has offices in San Jose, California, and Espoo, Finland, with corporate partners, VARs and other distributors in over 80 countries around the world. All F-Secure products are integrated into the CounterSign management architecture, which provides a three-tier, scaleable, policy-based management infrastructure to minimize the costs of security management. F-Secure Workstation Suite consists of malicious code detection and removal, unobtrusive file and network encryption, and personal firewall functionality, all integrated into a policy-based management architecture. F-Secure Anti-Virus, with multiple scanning engines (including F-PROT and AVP), is the most comprehensive, real-time virus scanning and protection system for all Windows platforms. F-Secure VPN+ provides a software-based, IPSEC-compliant Virtual Private Network solution for large corporate networks as well as remote and small office networks. F-Secure FileCrypto is the first and only product to integrate strong real-time encryption directly into the Windows file system. F-Secure SSH provides secure remote login, terminal, and other connections over unsecured networks. It is the most widely used secure remote administration tool. F-Secure NameSurfer is the solution for remote Internet and Intranet DNS administration. Its easy-to-use WWW user interface automates and simplifies DNS administration. The Company has customers in more than 100 countries, including many of the worlds largest industrial corporations and best-known telecommunications companies, major international airlines, European governments, post offices and defense forces, and several of the worlds largest banks. The Company was named one of the Top 100 Technology companies in the world by Red Herring magazine in its September 1998 issue. Other commendations include Hot Product of the Year 1997 (Data Communications Magazine); Best Anti-Virus product (SVM Magazine, May 1997); Editors Choice (SECURE Computing Magazine); and the 1996 European Information Technology Prize. For more information, please contact: USA: Data Fellows Inc. Mr. Petri Laakkonen, President Tel. +1 408 938 6700, fax +1 408 938 6701 E-mail: Petri.Laakkonen(a)DataFellows.com Europe: Data Fellows Oy Mr. Jari Holmborg, VP, Sales and Marketing PL 24 FIN-02231 ESPOO Tel. +358 9 859 900, fax. +358 9 8599 0599 E-mail: Jari.Holmborg(a)DataFellows.com or visit our web site at http://www.DataFellows.com -- Marita.Nasman-Repo(a)DataFellows.com, World-Wide Web http://www.DataFellows.com

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copyright at the point of a gun (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:27:56 +0100 > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: copyright at the point of a gun > Judging by the state of software-piracy with PC software with 80-90%+ > piracy rates, the market is already pretty much ok with ignoring > copyright, and would be happy to have no copyrights. So long as it isn't money your taking out of their pocket. There is an obvious double standard at play in the piracy issue. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: EduFUD: Computers, software can harm emotional, social development
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10/1/98 2:50 PM, Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) passed this wisdom: >I guess I know too many stone geniuses who've had computers since they were >children -- most of the people on this list were raised that way, I would >bet -- to take this crap too seriously, reduced attention "spans" or not. > >By the way, "span" is the wrong word for ADD. I was hardly raised on TV, >much less computers, (I had my face in science fiction books throughout >most of my childhood), and I've been known to focus on something >"inappropriately" for hours. Ever since I discovered my ADHD some two or three years after I started working with ADHD kids in the our school district a lot of things began to make sense. But I came to realize and now make it a point to tell these kids that taken as a whole ADD/ADHD is a blessing more so than a curse. The ability to hyper-focus on a task at hand gives you the power to do in a few hours sometimes things it would take others a day or more to do. For the truly ADD kid (as opposed to the culturally induced variety) the hell he has gone through and the incredible low self-esteen they generally have, just hearing that is often enough to make a radical turn-around for them. >While I certainly have varying degrees of control of my attention, but I >just don't see that a "handicap" anymore. My attention is event-driven, >rather than processed in neat organized batches, and I've learned to like >it that way, even if it did give me trouble when I was chained in the >aforementioned tower's dungeon for most of my formative years. > >Besides, even if computers cause people to have event-driven attention >rather than in nice neat industrial batches, that's probably a Good >Thing(tm). Consider it evolution in action. > >Farmers and mechanics may need "control" of their attention, but in an >information "hunter" like myself, most of the people who do anything useful >on the net, it's a selective disadvantage. ... amen!!! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "The 2nd amendment guarantees all the rest."

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Re: Been there....Done that....
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Jenny672, Wow, what a spectacular offer you've given us! And guess what? Today's your lucky day! You know why? I'll tell you. See, I'm independently wealthy, and so while I have no need to participate in your scam, I've decided that it would definitely be worth $10,000 of my own money to have you and everyone else on your stinking list killed! I know, you're saying, "How does that make it my *lucky* day?" The reason you don't know is because you're brain dead. So I'll tell you, and you'll just have to believe me. See, when you're dead, the world will be a much better place. Intelligent people everywhere will rejoice, and maybe, just maybe, your excruciatingly painful and torturous death will help bring people together in the common cause of killing everyone else in the world like you. So won't you be happy to know that your death will bring about a better world? It's your lucky day, because you get to make the *whole world* a better place! Thanks for the opportunity, my friend! You've made my day! At 01:14 PM 10/1/98 -0700, jenny672(a)usa.net wrote: >Dear Friend, > > >I want to share this with you, I am sure like me you have tried many >different opportunities at home and most of them don't work, or they want >more money than we can afford. I figured what's $5 when we have spent so >much more..... > >Need some fast cash? Try this: > >******************************************************************* >If you are prepared to read on, BE PREPARED TO GET EXCITED...YOU >WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED! > >******************************************************************* >Read the following and you will agree this is a very exciting >opportunity. Only invest a little bit of time and your reward could >mean thousands of dollars! Good luck! > >********************************************************************* > >$$$ ARE YOU IN NEED OF MONEY? RIGHT NOW? $$$ >$$$ HOW DOES US$10,000 IN TWO(2) WEEKS (or less) SOUND? $$$ > >Don't laugh! This a very logical and rewarding opportunity! >One(1) hour of work to get started and NO MAILING LISTS! > >--------Esquire Marketing Newsletter Gift Club-------- > >********************************************************************* > >If you need to make a few thousand dollars REALLY FAST, then please take >a moment to read this simple program I am sharing with you. No, it is >NOT what you think! YOU DO NOT have to send $5.00 to five people to buy >a report, buy a recipe, or any other product. Nor will you need to >invest more money later to get things going. THIS IS THE FASTEST, >EASIEST PROGRAM YOU WILL EVER DO! Complete it in ONE HOUR and you will >never forget the day you first received it. > >--------This Is How It Works-------- > >Unlike many other programs, this three-level program is more realistic >and much, much faster. Because it is so easy, the response rate for this >program is VERY HIGH and VERY FAST, and you will see results in two >weeks or less! Just in time for next month's bills! > >You only mail out 20 copies ( not 200 or more as in other programs). You >should also try to send them to PEOPLE WHO SEND YOU THEIR PROGRAMS >because they know THESE PROGRAMS WORK and they are already believers >in the system! Besides, this program is much, much FASTER and has a HIGHER >RESPONSE RATE. > >Even if you are already in a similar program, STAY WITH IT, but do yourself a >favor and DO THIS ONE as well. START RIGHT NOW! It's simple and takes >a very small investment. It will pay off long before other letters even >begin to trickle in! > >Just give ONE person a US $5.00 gift. That' s all! > >Follow the simple instructions and in TWO WEEKS you will have US $10,000 >in your bank account!!! Because of the LOW INVESTMENT, SPEED and HIGH >PROFIT POTENTIAL, this program has a VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE. JUST >ONE (1) US$5.00 BILL. THAT'S YOUR INVESTMENT! > >+------+ Follow These Simple Instructions +------+ > >1. On a blank sheet of paper write "Please add me to your mailing list." >Write your name and address clearly and include your Email address (if >you have one) for future mailings and courtesy follow ups. Fold it >around a US $5 bill and send this to the FIRST name on the list (#1). >Only the FIRST PERSON on the list gets YOUR NAME AND A FIVE DOLLAR >GIFT. > >Note: This is a service and is 100% legal (Refer to US Postal & Lottery >Laws, Title 18, Sections 1302 and 1341 or Title 18, Section 3005 in the >US Code, also in the Code of Federal Regulations, Volume 16, Sections >255 and 436, which state that "a product or service must be exchanged >for money received.") > >2. Retype the list ONLY, REMOVING the FIRST (#1) NAME FROM THE LIST. >Move the other two names UP and ADD YOUR NAME to the list in the >THIRD(#3) position. > >3. Send out 20 copies of this letter. Note: By sending this letter via >Email, the response time is much faster and you save the expense of >envelopes, stamps, and copying services. Consider this, MILLIONS of >people "surf the Internet" everyday, all day, all over the World! FIFTY >THOUSAND new people get on the Internet every month! An excellent >source of names is the people who send you other programs, and the names >listed on the letter they send you. Your contact source is UNLIMITED. >It boggles my mind to think of all the possibilities! Mail, or should I >say Email, your letter TODAY! It's so easy, >ONE HOUR of your time. THAT'S IT! > >To send your newsletter by Email: > >1. Go to "Edit" and "Select All" >2. Go to "Edit" and "Copy" >3. Start (compose) a new Email message >4. Address your Email and Subject Blocks >5. Go to "Edit" and "Paste" > >After you have pasted this article in your new Email, delete the old >header and footer (Subject, Date, To, From, Etc..). Now you can edit >the names and addresses with ease. I recommend deleting the top name, >adding your name and address to the bottom of the list, then simply >changing the numbers. > >THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DO. When your name reaches the first position >in a few days, it will be your turn to collect your gifts. The gifts >will be sent to you by 1,500 to 2,000 people like yourself, who are >willing to invest US$5.00 and one hour to receive US$10,000 in cash. >That s all! There will be a total of US$10,000 (or more) in US$5.00 >bills in your mailbox in two weeks. >US$10,000 for an hour's work! I think it s WORTH IT, don t you? > >GO AHEAD -- TRY IT. IT'S US$5.00! EVEN IF YOU JUST MAKE 3 OR 4 >THOUSAND, WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE?! IF YOU TRY IT, IT WILL PAY!!!! > >--------TRUE STORY-------- > >Cindy Allen writes: I ran this gift summation four times last year. >The first time I received over $7,000 in cash in less than two weeks and >over $10,000 in cash in the next three times I ran it. I can't begin to >tell you how great it feels not to have to worry about money anymore! >I thank God for the day I received this letter! It has truly changed my >life! Don t be afraid to make gifts to strangers, theyll come back to >you ten-fold. So, let's keep it going and help each other in these "tough >and uncertain times." > >Many of us just want to pay off our bills, buy a new car or buy a new >home for our family. Whatever your reasons or needs are, this program >worked for Cindy and thousands of others (just like you and I) time and >time again! THIS PROGRAM CAN AND WILL WORK FOR YOU!!! > >--------Can I Do It Again? -------- > >OF COURSE YOU CAN...This plan is structured for everyone to send only >twenty(20) letters each. However, you are certainly not limited to >twenty. Mail out as many as you can. Every twenty letters you send has >a return to you of $10,000 or more. If you can mail forty, sixty, >eighty, or whatever, GO FOR IT! THE MORE YOU PUT INTO IT, THE MORE YOU >GET OUT OF IT! > >Each time you run this program, just follow the steps (1) through (3) >and everyone on your gift list benefits! Simple enough? You bet it is! >Besides, there are no mailing lists to buy (and wait for), no further >trips to the printer or copiers, and you can do it again and again with >your regular group of gifters, or start up a new group. Some people >produce a mailing list of opportunity seekers and send out 200 or more. >Why not? It beats working! Each time you receive a MLM offer in the >mail, respond with THIS letter! Your name will climb to the number one >position at dizzying geometric rates. > >Follow the simple instructions and above all, please "PLAY FAIR." > >That's the key to this program's success. Your name must run the "full >gamut" on the list to produce the end results. "Sneaking" your name >higher up on the list WILL NOT produce the results you think, and it >only cheats the other people who have worked hard and earned the right >to be there. So please, play by the rules and the $$,$$$ will come to >you!!! > >--------Mail Your Letters Out Today-------- > >$$$ TOGETHER, WE WILL ALL PROSPER $$$ > >Mail your US$5.00 "Gift" to the first name on the list ONLY. Remove the >first name and move the other two up one place and put your name in the >#3 position. > >GOOD LUCK!!! > > >************************************************************************ > >1. G.U >PO Box 1437 >Monterey Park, CA 91754 > >2. Jorge S. >40 Newport Pkwy >Apt. 214 >Jersey City, NJ 07310 > >3. Sun Prod >1350 E. Flamingo Rd. suite #426 >Las Vegas, NV 89119 > >******************************************************************* >Remember your total cost for participation is only $5.32 >$5 gift and 32 cent stamp to mail it. Email this today to people >that need an extra income fast.....thanks. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > I'd say the obvious one, the Unix code tree is more stable > than the MS tree. Sure, but does that mean the MS platform was less suitable than Unix, or their MS platform programmers were inferior to their Unix counterparts. I believe Netscape outsourced the Unix development, at least initially. I would blame insufficient SQA at Netscape, and from what I've heard that claim is justified. Matt

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >Bullshit, monopolies exist because of the regulation. > > I'm afraid sir, that your ingonorance is showing. Is it? > Pick up any college (hell, high school) economics > textbook. Yes, why don't we try anyone from the Austrian or Chicago Schools, or have you not gotten that far in your Econ 101 textbook? I'll even give you a couple to start with: Friedrich A. Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Carl Menger, Adam Smith, Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan. You also might try Frederic Bastiat, Ayn Rand. Try reading some of the studies done by the CATO Institute No, you can keep your Western Illinois school of voodoo economics to yourself. > Certain types of businesses are inheritly advantagious to > monopolies. The electric company is the classic example- There are very few natural monopolies. Few to none. The sewer system or local access roads are better examples than electricity -- all electricity requires is right-of-way access, it is not scarce on property like roads. Copper/fiber is already run by three separate entities (phone, cable, electric) to the home and there is evidence to show that it came be made much for free (see fiber-running in Helsinki). Right-of-way is the source of the monopoly. Problem is government will assume it is a natural monopoly and create a coercive one. Take telephony for example, which is so blatantly obvious today that it is not a natural monopoly -- yet try getting dry copper circuits and providing dial-tone and see the mess of regulation you run into. > Certain types of businesses are suited to certain types of > competition, and, unregulated, monopolies are exactly what > you get. Show me an example of an unregulated coercive monopoly whose source of monopoly power is not ultimately the government. Efficient monopolies (e.g. ALCOA) exist in early markets, but they are not coercive, they cannot prevent competition, they can only be efficient enough that they capital market won't see the returns to justify a second entrant. > This was exactly the situation that occured at the turn of > the century and it happened because regulation was non-existant! I suggest you question the motivation of your sources. We are living in the shadow of socialism and big government, who proclaimed the evils of capitalism and stepped in to save the day. Were they justified? Read what Greenspan thinks turn-of-the-century monopolists and resulting regulation: http://www.ecosystems.net/mgering/antitrust.html Matt PS. Your spelling is as bad as Jim's. One starts to wonder if bad spelling and bad logic go hand in hand.

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:15:18 -0700 > Show me an example of an unregulated coercive monopoly whose source of > monopoly power is not ultimately the government. The Mafia. The handful of world-class coke dealers. Your local church. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should beremoved?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:57:48 -0400 Reply-To: egullich(a)tonic.to Originator: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Sender: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Precedence: bulk From: egullich(a)tonic.to (Eric Gullichsen) To: Multiple recipients of list <com-priv(a)lists.psi.com> Subject: Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? X-Comment: Commercialization and Privatization of the Internet This is an official reply to Barry Shein <bzs(a)world.std.com> who recently cross-posted to inet-access(a)earth.com, nanog(a)merit.edu, domain-policy(a)lists.internic.net, and com-priv(a)psi.com under the Subject heading: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? As TLD admin for the .TO ccTLD, I thought Mr. Shein's posting deserved a reply. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Shein: I am the hostmaster and Administrative, Technical and Zone Contact at Tonic, the top level domain name registration authority for the .TO country code (http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois?to5-dom) Since June 1997, our automated domain name registry at http://www.tonic.to has been facilitating the registration of .TO names as a service to the global Internet community. Neither Tonic nor IANA policy requires the registered owner of a .TO name to be physically situated in the Kingdom of Tonga. >We've been having increasing problems with one or more porn sites in the >.to domain promoting itself by massive spamming of >AOL customers using one of our domains in their From: header thus causing >both complaints to us and thousands of bounces >from AOL due to bad AOL addresses in their spam lists. We are sorry to hear that you have been having problem with SPAM involving a .TO domain, and wish to draw your attention to the fact that .TO is the *only* top level domain we know of with an explicit antispam policy. We at Tonic feel strongly about spam, and believe it to be theft of service, and a very bad thing for the net in general. It is our policy to terminate the registration of a domain name involved in spam, after warning the domain name holder to cease unsolicited bulk mailings that involve a .TO name. >From our FAQ (at http://www.tonic.to/faq.htm) Q: I'm a spammer. Is a .TO domain something I should use? Tonic feels very strongly that the sending of unsolicited bulk email ("spamming") constitutes theft of service, and we do not condone the use of .TO domain names for this purpose. If we receive complaints that a .TO domain name has been used for this purpose, we will advise the domain owner of the complaint and request that they desist from this activity. Tonic reserves the right to remove any .TO name registration if a name is used as a source of spam, or an address to which to reply to such bulk mail solicitations. We have had to delete a number of .TO domains for egregious SPAM and will continue to do so in the cases where a stern warning fails to solve the problem. Please send a copy of any SPAM involving a .TO domain name to: hostmaster(a)tonic.to and we will warn the spammer and/or terminate the domain name registration. >Looking at the .to domain I can't help but notice it's heavily laden with >what appear to be porn sites (sexonline.to, come.to, >xxxhardcore.to, etc.) The .COM domain is no less "heavily laden" with porn sites. You will note that sexonline.com and xxxhardcore.com are names registered with the InterNIC. The come.to site is a free web redirection site supporting more than 100,000 customers. Furthermore, Tonic is a domain name registry, not a content censor. >In support of this assertion I want to show you an SMTP conversation with >what claims to be the Consulate of the >Government of Tonga in San Francisco (This San Francisco office is listed >as an official Tongan contact point for visas etc by >the US State Dept): > >world% telnet sfconsulate.gov.to 25 > >Trying 209.24.51.169... >Connected to sfconsulate.gov.to. >Escape character is '^]'. >220 colo.to SMTP ready, Who are you gonna pretend to be today? VRFY postmaster >500 Bloody Amateur! Proper forging of mail requires recognizable SMTP >commands! The primary nameserver for .TO is physically located at the Consulate of Tonga in San Francisco. On all our machines, we run the Obtuse smtpd/smtpfwdd SMTP store and forward proxy (http://www.obtuse.com/smtpd.html) to secure our port 25 and thereby prevent 3rd party mail relaying. Your reasoning as to why its responses to incorrect SMTP commands constitutes evidence that the .TO domain is "negligent", "mismanaged" and "an attractive resource for criminal activities" is ironically incorrect. In fact, having an *unsecured* port 25 open to mail relaying would be negligent. Best regards, - Eric Gullichsen Tonic Corporation Kingdom of Tonga Network Information Center http://www.tonic.to Email: egullich(a)tonic.to --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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microcurrency proposal
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

recently James Donald wrote some well-thought-out/reasoned comments on digital currency and microcurrency. I've been talking about microcurrency for many years on this list, and am quite chagrined lately at how long it is taking to actually materialize. I would have thought it would be available, for web pages especially, by now. the new scaled-back goals of Digicash are disappointing, but a good reality check. musing over all this is leading me in the following direction. a few months ago or so I posted info about a company that was doing a plugin for netscape that allowed some small currency transactions. I don't know what happened to this company-- does anyone remember who it was, or their web site? but I think this is a very promising approach. a company can create a plugin that would support microcurrency charges for web page hits very easily. here's how: the plugin interacts with any site that has enabled it. it sends a code to the site using a protocol. the site returns pages only upon a valid transaction request. for regular browsers without the plugin, the message is, "sorry, this page costs $.01, please download so-and-so plugin". people are very willing to download plugins to look at pages. people download plugins just to look at animation boxes. surely they will be willing to download them to serve up entire pages/content. how would the cash charge work? when the person gets the plugin, they give the plugin company their credit card number. the company takes care of the problem of accruing micro charges, keeping track of transactions/bills, and billing the credit card in large amounts. contesting a charge would tend to happen very rarely (because of the small charges, it is barely worth the effort), but the system could still support this. the problem is trying to transfer money to various individuals if their microcharge accounts have a net positive value instead of negative (in which case they would be charged their credit card at the end of the month). how do you transfer this money? one possibility is sending a check at the end of every month, or quarter, somewhat similar to the Amazon associates program. another possibility is figuring a way to credit a credit card account. this can be done, but from what I understand it is "frowned upon" by the companies. I have always wondered if the "powers that be" have intentionally tried to enforce this so that credit cards cannot turn into a cash transfer mechanism. of course, I'm leaving the issue of taxes out of this, but the microcharge company could be a point of collection for them. notice that none of what I am proposing above requires any new infrastructure whatsoever, except a little programming into a plugin. the distribution of the plugin is partly solved in that plugins are already distributed all over the net and understood by end-users. such a plugin could rapidly become the standard for "microcurrency" and be a wedge that might be the creation of a whole new industry within an industry. i.e. microcurrency on the web, very much the way Netscape virtually singlehandedly created the entire industry of the web within the existing internet. the door is wide open. such a company could be a very lucrative endeavor if handled very delicately and carefully, navigating the minefield of glitches that are surely to be present (many of which have prevented it from happening to date) as I understand, the digicash software was not in fact in plugin form for a browser. this is a pretty serious handicap imho. the technique of turning it all into a browser plugin based on the existing credit card system seems to me to be the crucial element that could make it happen.

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IP: New ExecOrd: Computer Software Piracy
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:50:05 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: New ExecOrd: Computer Software Piracy Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: US Newswire http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/1001-125.txt Clinton Issues Executive Order on Computer Software Piracy U.S. Newswire 1 Oct 14:10 Clinton Issues Executive Order on Computer Software Piracy To: National Desk, Technology Writer Contact: White House Press Office, 202-456-2100 WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by the White House: EXECUTIVE ORDER - - - - - - - COMPUTER SOFTWARE PIRACY The United States Government is the world's largest purchaser of computer-related services and equipment, purchasing more than $20 billion annually. At a time when a critical component in discussions with our international trading partners concerns their efforts to combat piracy of computer software and other intellectual property, it is incumbent on the United States to ensure that its own practices as a purchaser and user of computer software are beyond reproach. Accordingly, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Policy. It shall be the policy of the United States Government that each executive agency shall work diligently to prevent and combat computer software piracy in order to give effect to copyrights associated with computer software by observing the relevant provisions of international agreements in effect in the United States, including applicable provisions of the World Trade Organization Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, and relevant provisions of Federal law, including the Copyright Act. (a) Each agency shall adopt procedures to ensure that the agency does not acquire, reproduce, distribute, or transmit computer software in violation of applicable copyright laws. (b) Each agency shall establish procedures to ensure that the agency has present on its computers and uses only computer software not in violation of applicable copyright laws. These procedures may include: (1) preparing agency inventories of the software present on its computers; (2) determining what computer software the agency has the authorization to use; and (3) developing and maintaining adequate recordkeeping systems. (c) Contractors and recipients of Federal financial assistance, including recipients of grants and loan guarantee assistance, should have appropriate systems and controls in place to ensure that Federal funds are not used to acquire, operate, or maintain computer software in violation of applicable copyright laws. If agencies become aware that contractors or recipients are using Federal funds to acquire, operate, or maintain computer software in violation of copyright laws and determine that such actions of the contractors or recipients may affect the integrity of the agency's contracting and Federal financial assistance processes, agencies shall take such measures, including the use of certifications or written assurances, as the agency head deems appropriate and consistent with the requirements of law. (d) Executive agencies shall cooperate fully in implementing this order and shall share information as appro-priate that may be useful in combating the use of computer software in violation of applicable copyright laws. Sec. 2. Responsibilities of Agency Heads. In connection with the acquisition and use of computer software, the head of each executive agency shall: (a) ensure agency compliance with copyright laws protecting computer software and with the provisions of this order to ensure that only authorized computer software is acquired for and used on the agency's computers; (b) utilize performance measures as recommended by the Chief Information Officers Council pursuant to section 3 of this order to assess the agency's compliance with this order; (c) educate appropriate agency personnel regarding copyrights protecting computer software and the policies and procedures adopted by the agency to honor them; and (d) ensure that the policies, procedures, and practices of the agency related to copyrights protecting computer software are adequate and fully implement the policies set forth in this order. Sec. 3. Chief Information Officers Council. The Chief Information Officers Council ("Council") established by section 3 of Executive Order No. 13011 of July 16, 1996, shall be the principal interagency forum to improve executive agency practices regarding the acquisition and use of computer software, and monitoring and combating the use of unauthorized computer software. The Council shall provide advice and make recommendations to executive agencies and to the Office of Management and Budget regarding appropriate government-wide measures to carry out this order. The Council shall issue its initial recommendations within 6 months of the date of this order. Sec. 4. Office of Management and Budget. The Director of the Office of Management and Budget, in carrying out responsibilities under the Clinger-Cohen Act, shall utilize appropriate oversight mechanisms to foster agency compliance with the policies set forth in this order. In carrying out these responsibilities, the Director shall consider any recommendations made by the Council under section 3 of this order regarding practices and policies to be instituted on a government-wide basis to carry out this order. Sec. 5. Definition. "Executive agency" and "agency" have the meaning given to that term in section 4(1) of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy Act (41 U.S.C. 403(1)). Sec. 6. National Security. In the interest of national security, nothing in this order shall be construed to require the disclosure of intelligence sources or methods or to otherwise impair the authority of those agencies listed at 50 U.S. 401a(4) to carry out intelligence activities. Sec. 7. Law Enforcement Activities. Nothing in this order shall be construed to require the disclosure of law enforcement investigative sources or methods or to prohibit or otherwise impair any lawful investigative or protective activity undertaken for or by any officer, agent, or employee of the United States or any person acting pursuant to a contract or other agreement with such entities. Sec. 8. Scope. Nothing in this order shall be construed to limit or otherwise affect the interpretation, application, or operation of 28 U.S.C. 1498. Sec. 9. Judicial Review. This Executive order is intended only to improve the internal management of the executive branch and does not create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, at law or equity by a party against the United States, its agencies or instrumentalities, its officers or employees, or any other person. WILLIAM J. CLINTON THE WHITE HOUSE, September 30, 1998. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 10/01 14:10 Copyright 1998, U.S. Newswire ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ********************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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IP: Europe's Echelon eavesdropping exposed
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Europe's Echelon eavesdropping exposed Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:18:09 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Wired http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15295.html Eavesdropping on Europe by Niall McKay 4:00 a.m.30.Sep.98.PDT If the European Parliament has its way, the lid is about to come off what is reputedly one of the most powerful, secretive, and extensive spy networks in history -- if, in fact, it really exists. In October, Europe's governing body will commission a full report into the workings of Echelon, a global network of highly sensitive listening posts operated in part by America's most clandestine intelligence organization, the National Security Agency. "Frankly, the only people who have any doubt about the existence of Echelon are in the United States," said Glyn Ford, a British member of the European Parliament and a director of Scientific and Technical Options Assessment, or STOA, a technology advisory committee to the parliament. Echelon is reportedly able to intercept, record, and translate any electronic communication -- telephone, data, cellular, fax, email, telex -- sent anywhere in the world. The parliamentary report will focus on concerns that the system has expanded and is now zeroed in on the secrets of European companies and elected officials. The parliament is alarmed at reports of Echelon's impressive capabilities, and during a debate on 19 September, the European Union called for accountability. The parliament stressed that the NSA and the Government Communications Headquarters, which jointly operate Echelon, must adopt measures to guard against the system's abuse. International cooperation on law enforcement is important, Ford said, but there are limits. "We want to establish a code of conduct for the systems to protect EU citizens and governments." Across the Atlantic, Patrick Poole, deputy director for the Free Congress Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank, is preparing a report on Echelon to present to Republican members of Congress. "I believe it's time we start to bring this matter to our elected officials," he said. Poole and Ford have their work cut out for them: Neither Britain nor the United States will admit that Echelon even exists. The NSA declined any comment on a series of faxed questions for this story. Keyword: Bomb Over the years, enough information has leaked to suggest that the spy network is more than science fiction. Echelon came to the attention of the EU Parliament following a report commissioned by STOA last year. "Unlike many of the electronic spy systems developed during the Cold War, Echelon is designed for primarily non-military targets: governments, organizations, and businesses in virtually every country," the report said. According to the STOA report and stories in The New York Times, The Daily Telegraph, and The Guardian, Echelon consists of a network of listening posts, antenna fields, and radar stations. The system is backed by computers that use language translation, speech recognition, and keyword searching to automatically sift through telephone, email, fax, and telex traffic. The system is principally operated by the NSA and the GCHQ, but reportedly also relies on cooperation with "signals intelligence" operations in other countries, including the Communications Security Establishment of Canada, Australia's Defense Signals Directorate, and New Zealand's Government Communications Security Bureau. John Pike, a security analyst for the Federation of American Scientists, said each of the five government agencies takes responsibility for its own geographical region. Each agency reportedly maintains a glossary of keywords. If Echelon intercepts a transmission containing a word or phrase contained in the glossary -- bomb, for example -- the full conversation, email, or fax is recorded and shared among the agencies. "Echelon intercepts Internet traffic at the transport layer, such as the TCP/IP layer, so the system doesn't care too much what it is or where it came from," said Pike. "For analog traffic, such as telephone conversations, it uses automatic voice-recognition technology to scan the conversations." Abuses of Power? While the EU is aware that Echelon may be a useful tool for tracking down global terrorists, drug barons, and international criminals, Ford said the parliament is concerned that the system may also be used for espionage, spying on peaceful nations, or gaining unfair economic advantage over non-member nations. Indeed, there are many reported instances of the British and US intelligence agencies working together to gather information in a questionable manner. A 1993 BBC documentary about NSA's Menwith Hill facility in England revealed that peace protestors had broken into the installation and stolen part of this glossary, known as "the Dictionary." The documentary alleged that Menwith Hill -- a sprawling installation covering 560 acres and employing more than 1,200 people -- was Echelon's nerve center. Further evidence emerged last year, when British Telecom told a court that it provides high-bandwidth telecommunications into the Menwith Hill facility and from the facility to the United States, using a transatlantic fiber-optic network. "I believe that these five intelligence agencies are working from a single plan," said Pike. British investigative journalist Duncan Campbell was the first to report about Echelon in a 1988 article in The New Statesman. He believes that there is a very thin line between intelligence gathering and commercial espionage. Pike, of the Federation of American Scientists, believes the intelligence agencies operate in a gray area of international law. For example, there is no law prohibiting the NSA from intercepting telecommunications and data traffic in the United Kingdom and no law prohibiting GCHQ from doing the same thing in the United States. "The view by the NSA seems to be anything that can be intercepted is fair game," said Pike. "And it's very hard to find out what, if any, restraints can be employed." ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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