December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Commerce Undersecretary William Reinsch defends the governments encryption policy
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael, Absolutely! But I still really am hoping in desperation that some people in the main stream press would get a clue that this is all double speak, and that they are simply playing a game to buy time for their old system, and buy political wins for the next system. Heck, if I was in FBI/NSA's shoes, and this was the slimy game I see everyday in D.C., it would be the same game I play to get what I need. And I would be very irresponsible if I did not play the game, however slimy it is. The problem is that it seems like most of the public take speeches like the speakers are pretty much honest, when in fact, most of the time, they are playing spin control. I have no doubt the FBI/NSA are in trouble. Echelon (or whatever they call it) is in trouble. They are irresponsible if they did not fight to the end to preserve some of their multi-billion $$$ investment, but they are in dire straits if they are hoping for a second generation centralized scanning intelligence machinery like Echelon. My belief is that they have to gather automated intelligence from far more disparate and heterogenous (and possibly conflicting) sources in the near future, and find ways to make sense out of all of the data. But I think the intelligent observer would see that they have no choice because this technology .. I hate that word because people call some of the most simple and dumb stuff "technology" in order to make money from it .. this technology is impossible to control, which means that precisely the most important target worth going after will have plenty of resources to foil Echelon, but the people made most vulnerable (because of the regulations) are the common folks. THAT is what is pissing me off. If they have some effective way to regulate underground trade of encryption, then they would have a story to tell. However, the fact that most encryption get out of this country so darn fast (we're counting minutes now ...) means they are not even trying. Prosecuting that guy in San Jose is just nuts. Since when does prosecuting a legitimate business man will actually stop people, who firmly believing that they have some natural right to distribute encryption? And I must emphasize that my opinion has NOTHING to do with whether encryption SHOULD, from a social/political/legal view, be exportable or not. Ern

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17 Dec '03

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wtf...
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has this list server died or is it just me? it seems like the list has died or is it just slowly fading into oblivion? It seems as though the only people still posting come from some great spam factory in left field. Have all of the questions been answered? Is everyone happy with the encryption they have? Doesn't anyone have any new thoughts on export restrictions, hash implementations, or the like? I know that I'm still out here, is anyone else? Does this ring a bell? People must come and together deploy these systems for the common good. Privacy only extends so far as the cooperation of one's fellows in society. We the Cypherpunks seek your questions and your concerns and hope we may engage you so that we do not deceive ourselves. We will not, however, be moved out of our course because some may disagree with our goals. Who else is out there?

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mail2fax remailer capability? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:14:40 +0100 > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: mail2fax remailer capability? > Has anyone come across any mail2fax site which tries to keep track of > other free fax services and forward faxes to one in the right area? It wouldn't surprise me any to find that Kinko's and other such chain print shops couldn't do that sort of thing. Now if they'd do it over the web.... > ('Course if we could get some damn working ecash, we could fax it > anywhere -- sender pays:-) Open a laundromat, at least one person here in Austin has begun providing smart-card/no cash services. > Next stage -- anonymous voice mail delivered via voice modem / > soundcard, all via mixmaster, that would be nice! An anonymous remailer which drove a multi-format/media database would be pretty nifty. Might find more than a few niche markets to dabble in as well. In a sense you'd have your own little one machine data-haven. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: wtf...
by Mohammed Lazhar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hey Guys : I just subscribed to the list. I will be posting stuff soon Mohammed

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RE: FYI: More on WebTV security
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: Pablo Calamera <pablo(a)microsoft.com> To: "'dstoler(a)globalpac.com'" <dstoler(a)globalpac.com>, rah(a)shipwright.com, mac-crypto(a)vmeng.com Cc: jimg(a)mentat.com Subject: RE: FYI: More on WebTV security Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:19:11 -0700 comments inserted, extraneous text deleted. > -----Original Message----- > From: dstoler(a)globalpac.com [mailto:dstoler@globalpac.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 5:39 AM > To: Pablo Calamera; rah(a)shipwright.com; mac-crypto(a)vmeng.com > Cc: jimg(a)mentat.com > Subject: Re: FYI: More on WebTV security > > [stuff deleted] > The press release implies that there is secure end-to-end > email between two WebTV customers. The wording is somewhat ambiguous though it does have more of a bent on the security of the transport layer. Perhaps it could have been clearer and specifically said that messages where encrypted during transport using 128 bit encryption. > Perhaps I am overly cynical, but I am guessing that they are > using SSL (TLS) from a web based email application on the > client to WebTV's servers. I presume email data is decrypted > at the servers, then re-encrypted to the recipient when she > uses the WebTV client to read email. Close. We could not even export SSL (TLS) with 128 encryption in this scenario. We have a proprietary transport protocol that we use that employs 128 bit RC4. > This approach would allow access to private email at the > servers by WebTV employees or law enforcement agencies. > > Note the careful use of the phrases "unauthorized party" and > "without posing undo risks to national security and law > enforcement" in the press release. > > I believe that WebTV's email security is directly coupled to > their ability to establish and enforce good security policy > within their operation and the trustworthiness of the > employees who have access to sensitive data. Partially true. We believe a major component of our security is indeed in the encrypted transport of your email from the service through the internet, through a leased POP to your box. Our Privacy Policy and Terms of Service are available for your viewing. http://webtv.net/home/privacy_text.html http://webtv.net/home/tos_text2.html This level of protection goes beyond email to registration, preferences/setup, "favorites" etc... Virtually all communications with the WebTV service. > I am concerned that carefully constructed wording of > Microsoft's press release implies stronger email security > than really exists. I hope I am wrong. We believe that with the level of encryption and the quality of our network operations that we have the best level of privacy protection for our users of any online service. I agree that the carefully worded press release may imply more than what we got. But we are very happy with this initial step. It has taken a very long time just to get export approval for this architecture and we look forward to further relaxation of export controls so we can compete on even footing with our foreign competitors. Pablo > David Stoler > > > Key paragraphs from Microsoft's press release: > > WebTV Networks has been granted the first export license to > use strong 128-bit encryption for any user and any > application in Japan and the United Kingdom. So, for example, > an e-mail message with personal information sent from a WebTV > subscriber in Japan to a second WebTV subscriber in Japan > will be sent securely because there is no known technology by > which an unauthorized party could intercept and decipher it. > > Therefore, as part of the WebTV Network, the WebTV-based > Internet terminal (starting at under $100) is now the most > secure communications device available from a U.S. company. > > "WebTV Networks' export approval is a significant step for > industry and reflects the U.S. government's commitment to > promoting e-commerce abroad," said William Reinsch, U.S. > undersecretary for export administration. "The WebTV Network > provides secure communications for its customers and partners > without posing undue risks to national security and law enforcement." > > > --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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wtf...
by Edwin E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IP: HOUSE APPROVES Y2K BILL
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Peter J. Celano" <celano(a)ic.net> Subject: IP: HOUSE APPROVES Y2K BILL Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:24:30 -0400 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com HOUSE APPROVES Y2K BILL The U.S. House of Representative has voted 407-3 to authorize the president's Council on the Year 2000 Conversion to take control of computer systems of critical agencies if they're unlikely to be able to avert a crisis because of the Year 2000 software problem, in which old programs using 2-digit codes for years will be unable to do correct date-based calculations. The Senate has not yet voted on the measure. (AP 13 Oct 98) ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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IP: ISP not liable for customer's messages
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Peter J. Celano" <celano(a)ic.net> Subject: IP: ISP not liable for customer's messages Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:25:31 -0400 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com INTERNET PROVIDER NOT LIABLE FOR MESSAGES OF ITS CUSTOMERS An appeals court in Florida has ruled against a woman who sued America Online because one of its customers, a convicted sex offender, used an AOL chat group to try to sell the woman's 11-year-old son a pornographic video. The court said that federal law protects online services from being held liable for the messages transmitted by their members sell the videotape of the boy. The defeated lawsuit, which is being appealed to the Supreme Court, tried to characterize America Online as "a home shopping network for pedophiles and child pornographers." (AP/Washington Post 15 Oct 98) -- Peter J. Celano petec(a)iname.com pgp key on request <http://ic.net/~celano> member SPECLUSA < >< Ready to DO something? Try <http://ic.net/~celano/ip/> Always remember - LIPS SINK SHIPS!!! ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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IP: ** National ID Alert - Again **
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Patrick Poole <ppoole(a)fcref.org> Subject: IP: ** National ID Alert - Again ** Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:08:54 -0400 To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com We have been made aware by concerned staff members on the Hill that the one-year moratorium on implementing the National ID regulations is once again under attack from Rep. Lamar Smith. Not more than a week ago we sent out a similar alert after Smith was successful in convincing Speaker Gingrich to remove the provision from the bill. After our alert, many of you called Speaker Gingrich and told him "No to the National ID". Because of your prompt action and phone calls, he was forced to back down and allow the moratorium provision in the Omnibus Appropriations Act for FY99. Now, in the waning hours of the 105th Congress, Gingrich is wavering on the issue and considering pulling the one-year moratorium from the bill at Smith's request. We need your help to stop Lamar Smith's stealth attacks on our freedoms by calling his office and Speaker Gingrich and telling them both, "No National ID for the American people!" The bill will probably come to a vote in the House TODAY. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU * CALL * THEIR OFFICES. With all of the last minute legislative activity occurring today, a phone call will be the only way that your voice is heard on this matter. Lamar Smith 202/225-4236 Speaker Gingrich 202/225-0600 Thanks in advance for your prompt attention. Patrick Poole Coalition for Constitutional Liberties Free Congress Foundation ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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Ooops, didn't save? FlashBack!
by Aladdin Systems 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ADfilter 2.1 Registration Code
by cypherpunks＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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DoT National ID card delayed; CDA II signed soon
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:45:12 -0700 (PDT) >From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> >To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Subject: FC: DoT National ID card delayed; CDA II signed soon >X-No-Archive: Yes >Sender: owner-politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Reply-To: declan(a)well.com >X-Loop: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ > >http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15635.html > >Newt Caves on National ID Cards >by Declan McCullagh > > 5:45 p.m. 15.Oct.98.PDT > When the staff at the conservative Free > Congress Foundation learned Thursday > that legislation postponing a federal plan > to standardize US drivers licenses was in > trouble, they turned to the Internet for > help. > > Patrick Poole, deputy director of the > groups Center for Technology Policy, > quickly fired off an email alert to 500 > grassroots conservative and libertarian > groups. He said Representative Lamar > Smith (R-Texas) was trying to preserve > regulations creating de facto national ID > cards, and he urged readers to let > Congress know exactly what middle > America thought about such big > government boondoggles... > > > >http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15638.html > >CDA II Bound for Clinton's Desk >by Declan McCullagh > > 2:45 p.m. 15.Oct.98.PDT > Wielding a potent political bludgeon -- by > accusing Democrats of being soft on > pornography just weeks before the > election -- Republicans on Thursday > inserted the sequel to the > Communications Decency Act into a > sprawling $500 billion spending bill. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >To subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu with this text: >subscribe politech >More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >

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Disk (block device) encryption for Linux and *BSD?
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Apologies for the interruption, I'm looking for disk / partition encryption for Unix-alikes, especially Linux, OpenBSD and/or NetBSD. My websearch has been less than satisfactory - I found outdated Linux kernel patches for encryption loopback, and I distinctly remember reading about a serious bug in the use (or lack thereof) of key material in this code. Do patches for a current Linux kernel exist, and have all the known bugs been fixed? Also, there seems to be no version of Marutukku about that I can actually get to work on *BSD. Is Marutukku still being developed? Generally, is there a good page that tracks disk encryption for Unix? I'm currently using cfs here and there, and I have a specific question about that package, too: Does the cypherpunks list trust the patches that add Blowfish support to cfs? Questions questions..

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Do you gamble, or want to know how?!
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17 Dec '03

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Re: Who is next? (re Jim's subpoena)
by DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could you mean this.... First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945. William J. Hartwell wrote: > > This ran through my mind this morning before I was totally awake. Maybe > somebody can help me with the original author of this.... > > When they came for Kevin Mitnick I said nothing. After all he was a big > time hacker and I wasn't a hacker so I did not speak up. > > When they came for Jim Bell I said nothing. He was a criminal and I am not > a criminal so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Toto I said nothing. Surely he was nuts and I am > completely sane so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Jim Choate I said nothing. He runs a cypherpunks mailing > list and I don't manage any lists so I didn't speak up. > > When they come for me who will be left to speak up? > > This is a poor paraphrase of the original but I wonder if it is something > that we may be saying here in the U.S. soon? > > -- > William J. Hartwell > (602)987-8436 > Queencreek, Az. > > billh(a)ibag.com billh(a)interdem.com billh(a)hartwell.net

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Re: wtf...
by Pallas Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mohammed Lazhar wrote: > > hey Guys : > I just subscribed to the list. I will be posting stuff soon > Mohammed Please let me know as soon as you post amything!!!

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Re: LUGGAGE, GARMENT BAGS, BREIFCASES, ETC.
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: IP: ISP not liable for customer's messages
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Is it Keynes or Is it .... ?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

And now, ladies and germs, the "Spit Take of the Week" award winner... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:12:55 EDT Reply-To: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> Sender: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> From: Hayek-L List Host <HayekList(a)AOL.COM> Subject: Is it Keynes or Is it .... ? To: HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >> Is It Keynes? << -- The End of Laissez-Faire "A year or so from now, it will be difficult to find a single person who admits ever having believed that a global free market is a sensible way of running the world economy .. The late-twentieth- century political fad for the free market arose at a time when memory of it had faded. Mid-Victorian laissez-faire was short-lived .. The free market came about in England as a result not of slow evolution but swiftly, as a consequence of the unremitting use of the power of the state .. The free market withered away gradually, thought the natural workings of democratic political competition ... The short history of the free market in nineteenth- century England illustrates a vital truth: Democracy and the free market are rivals, not allies. 'Democratic capitalism' -- the vacuous rallying cry of neoconservatives everywhere -- signifies (or conceals) a deeply problematic relationship. The normal concomitant of free markets is not stable democratic government but the volatile -- and not always democratic -- politics of economic insecurity. History exemplifies an equally important fact: Free market economies lack built-in stabilizers. Without effective management by government, they are liable to recurrent booms and busts -- with all their costs in social cohesion and political stability. The Great Depression was partly an aftershock of the First World War .. But is was also a consequence of governments' holding to an orthodoxy that believed that so long as inflation is under control the economy can be relied upon to be self-regulating ,,," It's John Gray in _The Nation_. "Not for the First Time, World Sours on Free Markets", Oct. 19, 1998. Is it Keynes is special service of the Hayek-L list. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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IP: ISPI Clips 5.47: High-Tech Spying Gear Not Just For 007
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.47: High-Tech Spying Gear Not Just For 007 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:37:06 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.47: High-Tech Spying Gear Not Just For 007 News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Friday October 16, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: ABC News.com, October 7, 1998 http://www.abcnews.com Surveillance Tools Get Smarter, Smaller What the Watchers Use http://www.abcnews.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/spytech981007.html By Chris Stamper, spies(a)stamper.com ABCNEWS.com Are you being watched? Or listened to? High-tech spying gear is making surveillance easier as the equipment gets smaller. And its not restricted to Big Brother. The Searchcam allows for filming in tight corners.(Surveillance Systems) Bill DeArman, a senior special agent of the Customs Service, says that most privacy threats today come from gizmos bought in shopping malls, not obtained on the black market from KGB or Mossad defectors. A cheap disposable camera or a hand-held tape recorder can be as dangerous as the latest surveillance equipment. People are looking for the ultimate gizmos, but the people who commit crimes arent necessarily high-tech, DeArman says. What the Pros Use: But if its the high-end, expensive gear you want, thats increasingly available to civilians. Pinhole video cameras, for example, can be hidden in an wide variety of household products. You need a hole as small as 1/16 of an inch. says Jeff Hall, vice president of Gadgets By Design, a Lansing, Mich.-based company that makes surveillance equipment. Weve put them in light fixtures, computers and VCRs. A basic pinhole video cam costs $129, according to Hall. Theyre called pinhole because they have extremely small lenses, not because they resemble the toys children make from oatmeal boxes. A wire runs from the tiny TV camera to a transmitter or a recording VCR. Halls company has hidden these cameras in hats, thermostats, wristwatches and smoke detectors. Most of the companys sales come from businesses that want to keep track of their stock or watch their employees. If you wanted to put a camcorder in the back room, its hard to do that inconspicuously, he says. We have to get smaller and smaller to stay one step ahead of the bad guys. The Latest Fashion: A New York company called Electronic Security Products sells wearable cameras disguised as brooches, pens and eyeglasses. Theyre used for recording video one-on-one, says company president Avi Gilor. A wire runs from the camera to a transmitter concealed in a pocket. If theres no light to see by, then infrared can come in handy. Bakersfield, Calif.-based Search Systems sells the probelike Searchcam ($10,687) to law enforcement and rescue workers in tight corners. An infrared camera shaped like a long nightstick, the Searchcam is meant to be poked into small openings such as heat vents, doorways and windowsills. Officers in a high-risk situation can extend their eyes and ears in places where they wouldnt put their heads, says Scott Park, president of Search Systems. Listen to BirdsNot People: U.S. law says little about video surveillance, so just about anyone can watch you without fear of prosecution. Audio surveillance, on the other hand, is regulated by the 1984 Omnibus Crime Control Act, and arrests and prosecutions for eavesdropping are not uncommon. Ronald Kimble, Americas biggest spy shop owner, is currently serving a five-month sentence after being busted in 1995 on 70 counts of dealing in illegal wiretapping equipment. Kimble spent 11 years as an agent with the Drug Enforcement Agency before starting a chain of stores called The Spy Factory. Bugging devices, often hidden in household items, are confiscated daily at the border by Customs agents. The Customs Service says the law is too weak, however; criminals only face up to six months for each count of importing spy equipment. A camera could be hiding in what appears to be a thermostat. (Gadgets by Design) The consensus of opinion is that technology has grown so rapidly, so quickly, that laws arent up to speed, says agent DeArman. Often the legality of an item depends on its use. Parabolic microphones, for example, can be legally used for bird-watching or for professionally recording sports events. These devices, which look like small, hand-held satellite dishes, are 75 times more powerful than standard mikes and usually cost about $900. A parabolic microphone, if it looks like a dish at a football game, is a legal device, DeArman says If you disguise it as an umbrella to listen to what people have to say, then its illegal. Copyright (c)1998 ABCNEWS --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). 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IP: Silent Weapon of Mass Destruction
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Silent Weapon of Mass Destruction Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:25:31 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Washington Times http://www.WashTimes.com/opinion/grenier.html The silent weapon By Richard Grenier THE WASHINGTON TIMES There is a certain logic to it, I suppose. Two nuclear explosions in Japan half a century ago, with great blasts, great noise, mushroom clouds, many dead. It terrified America and much of the world and, except for military circles, little thought was given to the estimated million American soldiers who might have given their lives if they'd tried to storm Japan without the nuclear bombs' aid. But that's the way it goes. A historical event surrounded by great theatrical effects makes a really big impression. But what if the next weapon of mass destruction is silent, gives no warning, is not preceded by a pyrotechnic blast, but takes effect more slowly, leaving hospitals swamped, and millions in great American cities with hideously blistered faces dying in the streets? The doctors sent to succor them also die the same painful and unsightly deaths. For biological weapons now have the potential to wipe out cities, states and even entire national populations if positioned in the air, water supply or food supply. The food supply would progressively be shipped to various parts of the country, ultimately killing millions of people. And all, except for the groans of the dying, could be done in relative silence, with only the piles of dead in the streets to bear witness as in the Plague Years of the Middle Ages. As pointed out by former Secretary of Defense William Perry, most biological agents are sensitive to heat, and ready-to-eat foods are the most likely vehicles for mass contamination. So eat up your Quick Burger and fries with confidence that death will soon follow. Food processing plants and water purification facilities also provide tempting targets. Microorganisms, it should be noted, are a very inexpensive way to exterminate entire populations. Above all, many microorganisms can be cheaply grown, each having its own unique uses. As stressed by Carl Yaeger of Utah Valley State College and Steven Fustero, IACSP Director of Operations, this is a great advantage in deciding the effect wished to be brought about on the section of the population at which the attack is directed. Since the organisms are capable of rapid reproduction, only a small amount is required to infect a very large area. But possibly more interesting than the large area to be infected is the selectivity. With the development of biochemistry and genetic engineering, it might be possible to target ethnic groups -- which, once it is announced to the general public, should do wonders for the harmony of America's various ethnic and racial groupings. Judging by some recent events, there are not a few extremist groups in the United States that would give little thought to wiping out thousands of "undesirables." This kind of germ weapon would be highly prized in the hands of terrorist groups, and in the hands of these terrorists could well be more lethal than tactical nuclear weapons. A terrorist can accomplish his agenda in many ways with biological weapons. Terrorists are creative and use varying tactics, as is spelled out in Yonah Alexander's book "International Terrorism." The book gives an alarming list of different styles of terrorism in different parts of the world. Contributing to the problem is the easy availability of information for anyone who would mix up a bag of anything toxic from recipes readily accessible on the internet. As Fred Reed points out in his essay "Publishing Do It Yourself Munitions Books Increases the Risk of Terrorism," much of this information is not that hard to get. Even nerve gas has a patent that makes the formula public. Biological weapons do not have a single, unique effect. Human beings along with other animals are constantly being attacked by disease-causing bacteria and viruses. Biological weapons, for the most part, create the same effects as any of the wide variety of naturally occurring diseases, which makes tracking them down so baffling. These artificial agents could be used merely to weaken the targeted population, to intimidate it with no intention of inflicting wide scale casualties, or simply to wipe it out. The options are many. Biological agents can also be selective in another way, as they could be used to target crops and cattle or to start an epidemic of a highly dangerous disease such as smallpox. Furthermore, if an agent were released in the proper way, it could be months before anyone even knew how the epidemic had started. And there are many other advantages of using biological weapons. Terrorists do not necessarily need or want a weapon of mass destruction. A simpler biological weapon might be more controllable and kill enough people to suit the terrorists' purposes. Still another advantage could be secrecy and concealment. Limited attacks could be carried out secretly before open "hostilities" even began. As you can see, a whole new age of warfare is beginning. According to an excellent PBS "Frontline" documentary aired this week, the Soviet Union, even under Mikhail Gorbachev, had already broken an international agreement restricting chemical and biological weapons. But given the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the subsequent chaos into which Russia has since been plunged, where are those Russian weapons now? Perhaps, wherever they are -- and this is an uneasy thought -- they could be prepared to kill millions by being disseminated in the air by cans of hair spray. But most Americans don't want to think about this. Copyright © 1998 News World Communications, Inc. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. 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CL: The Economist on Giddens, Hayek & the LSE
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Beware of socialists pitching new paradigms. Maybe the Economist hasn't succumbed to the "Cool Brittania" backwash as much as I thought it did -- nawwww.... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:50:19 EDT Reply-To: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> Sender: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> From: Hayek-L List Host <HayekList(a)AOL.COM> Subject: CL: The Economist on Giddens, Hayek & the LSE To: HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >> Current Literature < -- Giddens / Political Thought at the LSE 'Bagehot', "The third way revealed", _The Economist_. Sept 19, 1998. >From the article: "SOMETIMES you want to read a book a second time. You know, just to make sure that there was nothing important you missed first time around. In the end, though, Bagehot decided to skip the second reading of Anthony Giddens's "The Third Way" .. For the time being, first impressions must stand. This book is awesomely, magisterially and in some ways disturbingly vacuous. Why disturbing? There are many bad books in the world. But the third way is not just a parlour game for intellectuals puzzling over the content of politics now that both socialism and "unbridled" capitalism are in disrepute. It has become the quasi-official political philosophy of Britain's governing party, and is taken seriously enough to form the backdrop for a curious political seminar that Bill and Hillary Clinton, Tony Blair and Romano Prodi, the prime minister of Italy, plan to conduct in New York on September 23rd. Nor is "The Third Way" just any other book about what the third way is. It is the first detailed account of it by the man who has become its chief British prophet and interpreter. Even by the standards of the London School of Economics, which provided a base for the likes of Friedrich Hayek, the Webbs and Harold Laski, its present director exerts a powerful influence on Downing Street. Of Mr Giddens (who, thanks to Mr Blair, shall be Lord Giddens hereafter), as of no other living sociologist, it can be said that what he thinks matters. So what does he think? A large part of"The Third Way" consists of a description of where things stand after the death of socialism. Mr Giddens homes in on "five dilemmas". In merciful summary, these are (i) that globalisation is changing the meanings of nationhood, government and sovereignty. There exists (2) a "new individualism" that is not necessarily selfish but which means that social solidarity can no longer be imposed in a top-down way. Although distinctions between left and right keep changing, the left cares more about social justice and equality. However, (3), there is a category of problems-such as global warming, devolution, the future of the European Union-about which it is unhelpful to think in terms of left versus right. (4) Some jobs (defence, lawmaking) can be done only by governments, even though politicians are becoming less influential and pressure groups more effective. And do not forget (5) that while environmental dangers can be exaggerated it is highly dangerous to be sanguine about them, not least because, as in the case of madcow disease, experts sometimes differ. Hmm. At this point, the charitable reader may feel that although some of these points may be obvious, and others arguable, Mr Giddens has at least raised interesting questions. Moreover, they are original, in the narrow sense that nobody else seems to have singled out these particular five points and called them "dilemmas". The trouble with any argument constructed at Mr Giddens's level of generalisation is that you begin to wonder whether there might just as plausibly have been four dilemmas, or 14, or even whether a different five could have been chosen just as easily .. But let that pass. Philosophers describe the world. How does the prophet of Britain's third way propose to change it? Mr Giddens admits that what he is offering is merely an "outline". This is a deceptive species of modesty given that what he claims to be outlining is no less than "an integrated political programme covering each of the major sectors of society." Here we learn amongst other things that protectionism is undesirable but so is a "blanket endorsement" of free trade; that there should be no rights without responsibilities; that the protection of children is the most important bit of family policy; that society should be "inclusive" but not "strongly egalitarian"; that constitutions should aim for openness and transparency; that there may be a case for a world criminal court; that there is a need to control excessive overshoots in financial markets but that the nature of these controls is "problematic"; that . . But, really, why bother to go on? .. it would have been nice for Britain's pre-eminent sociologist and the director of the LSE to come up with at least one new proposal capable of ruffling at least someone's feathers. Remember "The Road to Serfdom", Hayek's brave, hugely unfashionable warning against planning made in the midst of a war that seemed to have made planners indispensable? By contrast, Mr Giddens's integrated political programme boils down to a list of conventional appeals to civic virtue, in which every bet is hedged and everyhard choice ducked. It is just the sort of stuffthat could find its way risklessly into the manifesto of any social democratic party interested in tarting up its image. Which is presumably why he wrote it. Mr Giddens wants to restore the LSE to a position of power and influence. How pleasing it must have been to find in Tony Blair a clever, instinctive politician in the market for some sort of ideology in which to dress up his opportunism. And how intellectually disarming. Was it fear of setting out any positions that New Labour could one day find embarrassing that made Mr Giddens write such a bad book? Whatever the reason, the third way remains as mystifying as ever. Herbert Morrison-the grandfather of Peter Mandelson, Mr Blair's cabinet colleague-once wickedly defined socialism as what the Labour Party did. On the evidence of this slight work, the third way is whatever New Labour does." Anonymous, "Bagehot: The third way revealed". _The Economist_ Sept. 19, 1998 Vol: 348, Issue: 8086. pp. 72-73. Current Literature is a regular feature of the Hayek-L list. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Is it Keynes or Is it .... ? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:09:02 -0400 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: Is it Keynes or Is it .... ? > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:12:55 EDT > From: Hayek-L List Host <HayekList(a)AOL.COM> > Subject: Is it Keynes or Is it .... ? > "A year or so from now, it will be difficult to find > a single person who admits ever having believed > that a global free market is a sensible way of > running the world economy No global economy is a good economy, by its very definition it is a monopoly and contrary to the entire precip of free-market pundits. A free-market is exclusively a *local* market. > laissez-faire was short-lived .. The free market came > about in England as a result not of slow evolution No it didn't, it's the basic economic structure that everything else gets built on. You start out with a completely free-market and build from there. Free markets are for cavepeople. > but swiftly, as a consequence of the unremitting use > of the power of the state .. The free market > withered away gradually, thought the natural workings > of democratic political competition ... No, human psychology is what kills it. > century England illustrates a vital truth: Democracy and > the free market are rivals, not allies. Duh. Economics has nothing to do with civil liberties or crimes. One of the failures in current political and economic thought is the necessity for the *government* to regulate the money. It isn't a new belief either since it is embodies in our Constitution. What is required for a free-market is a mechanism for 'fair competition'. The problem is there is no way under a free-market to define fair or competition. > problematic relationship. The normal concomitant > of free markets is not stable democratic government > but the volatile -- and not always democratic -- politics > of economic insecurity. This is circular reasoning. A free-market is not compatible to democracy (of course not since a free-market requires two party economic contracts exculsively) but is compatible with a market that is solely stabalized by economic (in)security (which is a free-market economy after all). > History exemplifies an equally important fact: > Free market economies lack built-in stabilizers. > Without effective management by government, > they are liable to recurrent booms and busts -- > with all their costs in social cohesion and > political stability. Duh... > .. But is was also a consequence of governments' > holding to an orthodoxy that believed that so Governments *are* a form of orthodoxy, they don't hold onto it since they embody the concepts of orthodoxy. > long as inflation is under control the economy > can be relied upon to be self-regulating ,,," Nobody with half-a-clue believe this. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Happy Birthday to Convicted Child Molester Gary Burnore
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore(a)databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore) whined: > >[snip out-of-date, erroneous sex offender registration] He means you're an ignorant asswipe who shouldn't have told the North Carolina authorities of your child molestation conviction in California. Too late for that, and nuking the page on NC registered sex offenders' site doesn't make your criminal conviction go away retroactively. > More likely the one and only anonymous asshole. AKA RFG(a)monkeys.com > Ignore him. He goes away. "One and only" ... wow! But if claim to know his identity, then he isn't anonymous. Make up your little perverted mind. As for ignoring him, you just can't take your own advice, can you? Just because you're pissed that someone anonymously blew the whistle on your pederasty in Santa Clara, CA by informing your victim's mother and school officials is no reason for such ad hominem. You were busted fair and square, and your own guilty plea sealed your fate. BTW, did you ever ask yourself how this "RFG" character would have known that you were screwing your live-in girlfriend's daughter behind her back, if he's "the one and only anonymous asshole"? Getting sexual predators like you identified so that your neighbors with children can keep an eye on you is reason enough for anonymous remailers to exist, given your history of harassment against anyone who dares to criticize you.

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CL: The Economist on Giddens, Hayek & the LSE (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:16 -0400 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: CL: The Economist on Giddens, Hayek & the LSE > Beware of socialists pitching new paradigms. Or (the only good thing Reagen ever said), Trust, but verify. > must stand. This book is awesomely, magisterially and in some ways > disturbingly vacuous. ... > Prodi, the prime minister of Italy, plan to conduct in New York on September > 23rd. Is anyone going or know if the various discussions will be made available? > on "five dilemmas". In merciful summary, these are (i) that globalisation > is changing the meanings of nationhood, government and sovereignty. There > exists This is the definition of 'civilization', an effect that is clearly observable by studying history. The relationship between citizen and state depends on (among other things) speed of communication (or transport), and resource control. As the speed of transport increases nations have a tendency to homogenize or share cultural traits (not to mention genes). As time goes by the nations change size and number in relation to resource control, normaly you get a few large countries and lots of smaller ones. As time goes by you'll see more and more of the smaller nations forming combines, hegemonies, balkans, etc. This tendency drives the globalization of human culture. It is a basic aspect of human greed to want the whole shebang. That is a result of humans being social in nature, and having a fundamental neurosis about self. What finaly determines if one or more nations will exist is the general growth rates of each fundamentaly (and this is a bitch to describe to any precision) different national/social/psychological type. As long as none of them have a growth rate that is hyperbolic in nature (ie infinite magnitude in finite time) then a multiplicity of such 'nations' will continue to exist. A fundamental question should be what and how to measure the growth rates of nations within this context? There also needs to be a fundamental distinction between government and business, as is made with religions. Businesses need to be regulated but it should be by a indipendant political system from that defining civil issues regarding individuals. There should also be a distinct funding system which is also indipendant, but responsible for providing all funding for the other political agents. It would be regulated by some sort of representative system whereby people could elect various officials to select the process through a representative system. In short, every political entity in a government should consist of publicly elected officials with appropriate support staff. There should be strictly enforced and relatively short-lived term limits. A distinction in allowable forces for a government to use between exterior (army) threats and internal civil disturbance (militia), and nary the two should meet or ever be involved in day to day law enforcement. In regards the civil branch of the above (ie executive, legislative, judiciary) the executive branch should also be some sort of elected panel, the concept of an individual representative needs to die a deserved death. Personaly I like the idea of a panel of single representatives from each state. > (2) a "new individualism" that is not necessarily selfish but which > means that social solidarity can no longer be imposed in a top-down way. It's about time. I believe that a study of polyocracies would provide a much better model for a democratic system. I've come to the conclusion that the best way to deal with human culture is to base everything on the fundamental issue of individual distinction, this is what it means for all people to be created equal. > of problems-such as global warming, devolution, the future of the European > Union-about which it is unhelpful to think in terms of left versus right. That's because nature is by its very nature apolitical. Politics will regulate human society, it won't control it. > (4) Some jobs (defence, lawmaking) can be done only by governments, even No, they can only be done by a monopoly. If they don't then the sorts of social institutions we normaly talk about can't exist. > though politicians are becoming less influential and pressure groups more > effective. Which sortta balances out thankfuly... > should be no rights without responsibilities; that the protection of children > is the most important bit of family policy; Does he extrapolate this to some sort of all-encompassing social authorization for government intervention as is currently trying to be implimented? that society should be "inclusive" > but not "strongly egalitarian"; Which means what? We let people in but we don't treat them like they live here? that constitutions should aim for openness > and transparency; What the hell does that mean? > that there may be a case for a world criminal court; Only if nations aren't responsible for their own citizens... I'd like to see the day when one nation sues another in a world court for harms against their citizens...if the proposed system will require this as easily as a single nation dropping on a single individual then it won't work. > that there is a need to control excessive overshoots in financial markets > but that the nature of these controls is "problematic"; that . . Don't fall for the 'bigger is better' school of economics. Individualy stable markets should be highly regional, probably not national and most definitely not global. Stability comes from a voluntary long-term relationship between participants. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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"Annihilating less-than-useful contributors"
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[ snipped, see full article at Declan's new site ] # http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/15611.html # # 5:45 p.m. 14.Oct.98.PDT # SAN FRANCISCO -- Science fiction author Bruce Sterling # acknowledges that he isn't a programmer, or even a # contributor to the kind of openly developed software project # [Apache] that brought his audience together on Wednesday. # ... # Using a fictional example of people gathered online around # their interest in "freakish, left-handed mollusks," he said # collaborative software is needed that liberates the creative # power of the best people and "annihilates the counterproductive." # According to Sterling, the latter includes idiots, spammers, # and less-than-useful contributors. # ... # Sterling envisions an "online utopia" that would occur if # Web- and email-leveraging software were automatically # moderated. # ... # "If you could do this, you could advance knowledge," he said. # The Net and the collaboration it enables would be able to add # to the sum of human knowledge. # ... # Successful implementation of such a concept, Sterling said, # is critical to the success of the Net as a so-called "gift # economy".... [This] economy should function more like an # [actual] economy," he said. A differing set of rewards should # be returned for a differing set of efforts.

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Cyptography in the Information Age (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:08:14 -0400 > Subject: Cyptography in the Information Age > From: steve.benjamin(a)juno.com (Stephen Benjamin) > My paper will contain a 6-line (perl) implemenation of > RSA. Is my report subject to current Encryption Laws? > If so, which ones? I plan on making a big deal out of > how a 15 page research paper can't be exported from the U.S.A. The paper itself isn't subject to export restrictions at this point in time as I understand it. Now if you included a barcode, floppy, or some other machine readable/executable then that media would be under restrictions. > Also, How can I generate RSA keys in perl? > I found a C program to do it, but I don't have C installed. Now you get to learn how to translate... ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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"Annihilating less-than-useful contributors" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:38:51 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: "Annihilating less-than-useful contributors" > # their interest in "freakish, left-handed mollusks," he said > # collaborative software is needed that liberates the creative > # power of the best people and "annihilates the counterproductive." > # According to Sterling, the latter includes idiots, spammers, > # and less-than-useful contributors. > # ... > # Sterling envisions an "online utopia" that would occur if > # Web- and email-leveraging software were automatically > # moderated. > # ... > # "If you could do this, you could advance knowledge," he said. > # The Net and the collaboration it enables would be able to add > # to the sum of human knowledge. Assuming, without statement of course, that we know what information is important *before* we know it exists and we need it...the same old failure of all utopianist...they assume one size fits all. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Cyptography in the Information Age
by steve.benjamin＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

X-Posted: sci.crypt, cypherpunks mailing list For my Advanced Computer Science course in school I'm required to do a research paper each quarter. I have decided to do this quarter's paper on Cyptography in the Information Age. My paper will contain a 6-line (perl) implemenation of RSA. Is my report subject to current Encryption Laws? If so, which ones? I plan on making a big deal out of how a 15 page research paper can't be exported from the U.S.A. Also, How can I generate RSA keys in perl? I found a C program to do it, but I don't have C installed. Thanks for any help you can give me! and please reply through e-mail! ---------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Benjamin E-mail address: Stephen {DOT} Benjamin {AT} juno {DOT} com ----------------------------------------------------------

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CJ Indicted
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Court docket shows that CJ has been indicted for: 18:115A.F Threaten to Murder certain Federal Law Enforcement Officers and Judges This is in addition to the original complaint: For Violation of 18:115(a)(1)(B): Threatening to assassin IRA officers Yes, it says "assassin IRA." The other humor is that upon indictment for criminal charges on September 30 a bench warrant was issued for CJ's arrest. The arrest warrant was "returned unexecuted" on October 9, due to "warrant issued in error" by the same magistrate who issued the first arrest warrant on August 5, apparently forgetting or not knowing that CypherAssassin2 was mental evaluing with CypherAssassin1 in MO. See the docket: http://jya.com/cej101498.htm BTW, on why Jim Bell and CJ stopped over in OKC on the way to Springfield, we've learned that the Federal Transportation Center is in OKC. It so happens that the Bureau of Prisons issued a wad of rules and regs today just to handle the growing crowd of alleged IRA-Nobelists and international Chuckies: http://jya.com/bop101698.htm

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Disk (block device) encryption for Linux and *BSD?
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Apologies for the interruption, > >I'm looking for disk / partition encryption for Unix-alikes, especially >Linux, OpenBSD and/or NetBSD. Good luck. We're in the same boat. I'm using Andrew Mileski's patches, but they're outdated, only implement CAST-128 and IDEA, and the user interface leaves a lot to be desired. Writing a new user interface is on my project list, but of course I can't export the thing. >My websearch has been less than satisfactory - I found outdated Linux >kernel patches for encryption loopback, and I distinctly remember reading >about a serious bug in the use (or lack thereof) of key material in this >code. Andrew Mileski <aem(a)netcom.ca> has patches available via FTP from fractal.mta.ca, but they're very outdated. I think they're against 2.1.64, but they'll run with kernels up to the 90s. Kernels after about 2.1.105 are hopelessly broken with regard to Andrew's patches, so I wouldn't advise even trying it. If you use his patches, use kernel 2.1.105 or below. I think those are in /pub/aem/crypto. >Do patches for a current Linux kernel exist, and have all the known >bugs been fixed? There are several different versions floating around. There was some set of patches on ftp.csua.berkeley.edu but they're outdated too. There was a hole in some DES code somebody was distributing. >Also, there seems to be no version of Marutukku about that I can actually >get to work on *BSD. Is Marutukku still being developed? Again, good luck. >Generally, is there a good page that tracks disk encryption for Unix? > >I'm currently using cfs here and there, and I have a specific question >about that package, too: > >Does the cypherpunks list trust the patches that add Blowfish support >to cfs? Every time I've used CFS it has locked up into some kind of recursive loop where it eats more and more CPU time until it finally takes all it can get. Other people have had the same problem on both Linux and BSD. Other people never have any problems. No clue why.

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PGP utils?
by mgraffam＠idsi.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there a utility for Unix (or source available?) that reads a PGP encrypted message and displays some information on it, like what key ID the message was encrypted with, and what ciphers were used? Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam(a)idsi.net) http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers.. call this a new order. It is not new, and it is not order." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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Off-Topic
by Marcel Popescu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry for the off-topic, but does anybody know of a list related to militias, gun-control and the like? Thanks, Mark

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17 Dec '03

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More on Postel
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: IP: Remembrance/postel From: Dave Farber [farber(a)cis.upenn.edu] I, and others I fear, have spent a sleepless night after hearing of the death of Jon Postel last night. This morning there was a note in my mail box from Vint Cerf that said many of the things I feel at this time. I asked him for permission to send on which he granted. I also remember Jon. I was his primary thesis advisor along with Jerry Estrin and I remember with fond memories the months spent closely working with Jon while his eager mind developed the ideas in back of what was a pioneering thesis that founded the area of protocol verification. Since I was at UC Irvine and Jon at UCLA we used to meet in the morning prior to my ride to UCI at a Pancake House in Santa Monica for breakfast and the hard work of developing a thesis. I gained a great respect for Jon then and 10 pounds of weight. I will miss him greatly. Jon was my second Ph.D. student. The first, Philip Merlin, also died way before his time. Dave ________________________________________________________________________ October 17, 1998 I REMEMBER IANA Vint Cerf A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30 years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of the giants to depart from our midst. Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I really didnt know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a part of a group of graduate students working for Prof. Leonard Kleinrock on the ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place. Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST individual member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced to see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet service, and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC Information Sciences Institute. Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think. Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his colleagues. For me, he personified the words selfless service. For nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the International Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of State but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for his contributions. While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I contemplate what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell our collective Internet story, including not only the technical but also the poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service to the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not fade from our collective consciousness. What would Jon have done? we will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so well tamed for so many years. There will almost surely be many memorials to Jons monumental service to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I pledge to establish an award in Jons name to recognize long-standing service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which is awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient. If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that there is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one mans astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved.

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Fwd: AUCRYPTO: for distrib. (fwd)
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >From: Darren Reed <darrenr(a)reed.wattle.id.au> >Message-Id: <199810160852.SAA04406(a)avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> >Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:52:47 +1000 (EST) >Reply-To: aucrypto(a)suburbia.net >To: aucrypto(a)suburbia.net >X-Mailing-List: <aucrypto(a)suburbia.net> >Subject: AUCRYPTO: for distrib. (fwd) I read this today and thought it might be of general interest. Darren > The public key > > The perception of people losing their privacy has hit the mainstream. ABC > News began a series on October 5th entitled Privacy Lost. > > Operation Echelon, if you haven't heard of it yet you will once mainstream > media gets a hold of it. We began reading about this and the more > information we found the more we began to think George Orwell worked for the > NSA [USA National Security Agency ]. When all the details surface we > may find that big brother really does > exist and has for some time. The NSA reportedly worked closely with other > security agencies to build an interception network. This network is so vast > that it can supposedly intercept every electronic communication on the > planet. The ramifications of this network existing we think will be far > reaching and go a long way to forming online privacy policy in the future. > > The NSA was also nice enough to provide us with our next topic as well. It > appears that up until a few years ago the NSA had a clandestine agreement > with a Swiss cryptography company, Crypto AG. Crypto AG also at one time > provided most of the encryption equipment used at the diplomatic level > around the world. What's special about this is, the agreement allowed the > NSA to embed key-recovery devices inside products sold to other countries. > The NSA could read the information transmitted with these products as easily > as reading the newspaper. This was an ongoing process until March 1992, > when Iranian counterintelligence agents arrested a marketing representative > from Crypto AG on suspicion of spying. The battle for privacy continues. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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Jon Postel
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:32:10 -0400 Reply-To: wb8foz(a)nrk.com Originator: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Sender: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Precedence: bulk From: David Lesher <wb8foz(a)nrk.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <com-priv(a)lists.psi.com> Subject: Jon Postel X-Comment: Commercialization and Privatization of the Internet died last night.... You might want to read Vin Cerf's thoughts on David Farber's Interesting people list...... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Jon Postel (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:39:35 -0400 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: Jon Postel > You might want to read Vin Cerf's thoughts on David Farber's > Interesting people list...... Pray tell how?... ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Now *this* is funny...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:06:07 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Fake Message Sends AOL E-Mail Astray Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/washtech/wtech001.htm Fake Message Sends AOL E-Mail Astray By Leslie Walker Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, October 16, 1998 A fake e-mail sent to the keeper of the Internet's global address book yesterday erased America Online Inc.'s spot on the global computer network, causing thousands of incoming e-mails to go to the wrong place and preventing many people from visiting AOL's World Wide Web site. AOL officials said all the misdirected e-mail should show up eventually in the correct mailboxes. But the incident highlighted a security issue involving how the central addresses known as domains are administered on the Internet. The incident began before 5 a.m. when someone impersonating an AOL official sent e-mail to InterNIC, the Herndon organization that maintains the domain name registry for the Internet, InterNIC spokesman Christopher Clough said. The message requested the electronic address of AOL's domain be changed. Because AOL had chosen the lowest of three security levels possible for making such a change, it was made automatically, with no review by any person at Network Solutions Inc., the company that runs InterNIC, Clough said. The new address assigned was that of Autonet.net, an Internet service provider. Mail meant for AOL automatically was diverted to Autonet, overwhelming computers at the service. In AOL's network monitoring center in Dulles, people monitoring traffic volumes noticed a drop in the volume of e-mail coming in from the Internet. They began investigating and found the change, AOL spokeswoman Ann Brackbill said. AOL rented a computer to lend to Autonet.net yesterday to reroute the e-mail back to AOL while company officials simultaneously working with InterNIC to correct AOL's address, Brackbill said. AOL's actual Internet domain - AOL.com - was not changed, but the directions the Internet uses in sending Web surfers there were changed because of the fraudulent e-mail, so they couldn't get to the site. Instead, error messages appeared on their screens. "It's like if the phone book published the wrong address for AAA, and you went there to get a map," Brackbill said. "You wouldn't be able to get anything." Clough said the e-mail came as a form message that was accepted automatically because it appeared to come from the correct person and address at AOL.com that was authorized to change AOL's InterNIC records. Computer buffs call an incident of this kind "a spoof" - an impersonation of someone by e-mail. By 4:30 p.m., AOL's address had been corrected in the main Internet address book, but it often takes hours for changes to travel throughout the global network, Clough said. AOL officials estimated that 12 percent to 15 percent of its e-mail was affected Only about half of AOL's e-mail traffic comes from the Internet; the other half is internal. In addition, 10 percent to 20 percent of the people trying to access its Web site received error messages. AOL officials asked InterNIC yesterday to change the security level for its domain name records. The two higher levels available - and apparently used by most commercial Internet operations - involve either a password or encryption in the request for a change to the address. Brackbill couldn't explain why AOL chose the lowest security level, except to note that the record was created "a long time ago." "We've never had a problem before with this and our goal is to make sure we don't have it again," she said. AOL is cooperating with law enforcement officials to identify the culprit. © Copyright The Washington Post Company ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **************************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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2nd Report on Political Control Technologies
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forward: Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:26:38 +0200 To: jya(a)pipeline.com From: Marie-Jose Klaver <klaver(a)nrc.nl> Subject: Second report An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control I'm a Dutch journalist, working for NRC Handelsblad, one of the major newspapers in the Netherlands. I've been reporting about the STOA report An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control since last February. A second report came out last month. I got a copy a few days ago from the Omega Foundation and had an article about it in NRC Handelsblad today. This second report has interesting information about the so called EU-FBI global surveillance plan. According to a secret memorandum the EU countries have agreed with the FBI to intercept all European datacommunication. To do this some EU countries like Holland and Germany changed their laws to make broad wiretapping and interception of Internet and other datacommunication possible. Germany changed its constitution in the beginning of this year and in Holland a law was made and accepted by both chambers of the Parliament that obliges all firms with computer and communication networks (providers, telco's, newspapers etc.) to make their systems tappable. You can read the second report at: http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Echelon/stoa2sept1998.html [104K] Marie-Jose Klaver NRC Handelsblad http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Echelon ---------- There's much new information in the report, especially on the US export of political control technologies which complements Amnesty International's recent critique of US violations of human rights, as well as the US Bureau of Prisons reorganization, all to accommodate the rise in domestic and foreign freedom fighters, oops, terrorists, as global Justice and Defense agencies characterize naysayers to bloated organs of dysfunctional cracies.

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Re: Jon Postel
by Jim Gillogly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hettinga: >> You might want to read Vin[t] Cerf's thoughts on David Farber's >> Interesting people list...... Choate: > Pray tell how?... ----------forwarded from Dave Farber's IP list------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:28:40 -0400 From: Dave Farber <farber(a)cis.upenn.edu> Subject: IP: Remembrance/postel I, and others I fear, have spent a sleepless night after hearing of the death of Jon Postel last night. This morning there was a note in my mail box from Vint Cerf that said many of the things I feel at this time. I asked him for permission to send on which he granted. I also remember Jon. I was his primary thesis advisor along with Jerry Estrin and I remember with fond memories the months spent closely working with Jon while his eager mind developed the ideas in back of what was a pioneering thesis that founded the area of protocol verification. Since I was at UC Irvine and Jon at UCLA we used to meet in the morning prior to my ride to UCI at a Pancake House in Santa Monica for breakfast and the hard work of developing a thesis. I gained a great respect for Jon then and 10 pounds of weight. I will miss him greatly. Jon was my second Ph.D. student. The first, Philip Merlin, also died way before his time. Dave ________________________________________________________________________ October 17, 1998 I REMEMBER IANA Vint Cerf A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place? Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30 years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of the giants to depart from our midst. Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I really didn?t know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a part of a group of graduate students working for Prof. Leonard Kleinrock on the ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place. Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST individual member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced to see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet service, and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC Information Sciences Institute. Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think. Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his colleagues. For me, he personified the words ?selfless service.? For nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the International Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of State but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for his contributions. While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I contemplate what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell our collective Internet story, including not only the technical but also the poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service to the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not fade from our collective consciousness. ?What would Jon have done?? we will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so well tamed for so many years. There will almost surely be many memorials to Jon?s monumental service to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I pledge to establish an award in Jon?s name to recognize long-standing service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which is awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient. If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that there is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one man?s astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved. ----------end of forward from Dave Farber's IP list---------- -- Jim Gillogly Hevensday, 26 Winterfilth S.R. 1998, 22:01 12.19.5.10.19, 10 Cauac 12 Yax, Third Lord of Night

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17 Dec '03

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IP: FCC To Propose Resolving Digital Wiretap Debate
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: FCC To Propose Resolving Digital Wiretap Debate Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:07:00 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Forwarded: --------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:37:23 -0500 From: Kepi <kepi(a)netdoor.com> Subject: FCC To Propose Resolving Digital Wiretap Debate Source: Yahoo! News Friday October 16 3:00 PM EDT FCC To Propose Resolving Digital Wiretap Debate By Aaron Pressman WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Communications Commission next week will propose requiring telephone companies to make a series of changes to give law enforcement agencies additional wiretapping capabilities, people familiar with the plan said. The proposal, which will only be issued for comment and could be changed, seeks to resolve the long-running dispute between the telephone industry, privacy advocates and the FBI over terms of the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act. The law was intended to preserve the FBI's ability to conduct wiretaps as telephone carriers introduced new digital technology making traditional alligator clip-and-wire approaches obsolete. But the law also sought to maintain the existing limits on wiretapping authority that protect the privacy of ordinary citizens. Much to the chagrin of privacy groups, the FCC's preliminary proposal would require wireless telephone carriers to turn over to law enforcers the location of a mobile phone user at the beginning and end of a tapped call, people familiar with the plan said. ``From a privacy protection perspective, the tracking question is tremendously important,'' said Jim Dempsey, senior staff counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, a nonprofit privacy group in Washington. ``Congress never would have passed this legislation if they thought they were turning cell phones into tracking devices,'' added Dempsey, who as a congressional staffer helped draft the law. But, heeding the call of privacy advocates, the FCC proposal will urge further study concerning the way digital calling information is turned over to law enforcers. Under current law, the police must give a judge evidence of probable cause of criminal activity to get permission to tap a call. But to get basic routing information, such as what numbers were called from a particular phone, the police need show only that the information might be relevant to an investigation, a much lower standard. In digital calling networks, however, a call is split up into tiny data packets that contain both the voice transmission and routing and signaling information. An industry proposal last year would have turned over to police entire packets of information, including both the routing data and the actual call itself, when just basic routing information was authorized. The FCC proposal will seek to determine if a more limited method of handing over just routing information would be feasible. The FBI has already rejected as inadequate the industry proposal that included the cell phone location and full packet disclosure provisions. The agency asked the FCC to require carriers to add another nine capabilities, such as the ability to continue listening to a conference call even if the caller being tapped hangs up. The FCC proposal recommends some but not all of the nine items should be added to phone networks, but also asked for further comments on all nine items. The industry fears refitting existing equipment to add those capabilities will cost billions of dollars. Their fears were confirmed in a recent letter from Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh to Congress, dated Oct. 6, and obtained by Reuters, that conceded the costs could reach $2 billion. Industry participants were pleased that the FCC was moving to address the issues, though. ``We have not seen the details yet but we're pleased the FCC is moving forward,'' Jeff Cohen, a spokesman for the Personal Communications Industry Association, said. Copyright © 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=v/nm/19981016/tc/fcc_2. html **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: ISPI Clips 5.50: National ID postponed until 1999
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.50: National ID postponed until 1999 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:03:08 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.50: National ID postponed until 1999 News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Saturday October 17, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: WorldNetDaily, October 16, 1998 http://www.worldnetdaily.com National ID postponed until 1999 Moratorium in appropriations bill approved by Congress this week http://www.worldnetdaily.com/exclusiv/981016_bres_national_id_po.html By David M. Bresnahan Copyright 1998, WorldNetDaily.com Implementation of a National ID card will be automatically imposed on all states unless Congress takes action in 1999. More immediate efforts to impose the system, first exposed in WorldNetDaily, were derailed by a one-year moratorium on the National ID regulations included in the omnibus appropriations bill passed by Congress Thursday. It was a provision that was not without controversy. The moratorium was first included in the transportation appropriations bill, but Rep. Lamar Smith, R-TX, convinced Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-GA, to remove it before passage, according to House Transportation Committee sources. Rep. Frank Wolf, R-VA, chairman of the House Appropriations Transportation Subcommittee included the ban in the omnibus bill, according to a committee staff member. However, Smith continued to make efforts to kill the provision, according to Patrick Poole of the watchdog group Free Congress Foundation. "It was reported that Lamar Smith had obtained an agreement from Speaker Gingrich to eliminate this provision from the bill," reported Poole. The ban was back in the bill "after many House members openly complained to the speaker about Lamar Smith's seemingly religious devotion to the National ID idea and the American people's vehement opposition to being branded and tagged by the U.S. government." Numerous organizations opposed to the concept of a National ID rallied their members to send thousands of letters, faxes, and make phone calls to Congress for the past two weeks. Smith failed to return calls to WorldNetDaily.com, but he did publish a letter in the "Washington Times" on Tuesday because of the many calls his office received. "I do not support a National ID card and don't know anyone in Congress who does," said Smith in his letter. He tried to label those voicing opposition as radicals when he added, "There are fringe groups that believe the United Nations is taking over Yellowstone National Park, that Congress is creating a National ID card or that they have been abducted by UFOs." Congress put the wheels in motion to create a National ID card in 1996 with the passage of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. One section of the act, which was largely unnoticed at the time, requires all states to make their driver's licenses comply with certain guidelines found in Section 656 (b) of the act. The law prohibits states from issuing driver's licenses unless they comply with the new requirements beginning Oct. 1, 2000. The new licenses must use the Social Security number as the driver's license number, for example. The act also calls for digitized biometric information to be a part of each license, or "smart card." The biometric information will include fingerprints, retina scans, DNA prints and other similar information. Responsibility for the design and implementation of the cards has been given to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration of the Department of Transportation. That agency has recently published the proposed "Driver's License/SSN/National Identification Document," which contains the guidelines which must be in force by Oct. 1, 2000. The "Notice of Proposed Rule Making" sets out the standards for each state to follow in the design of "identification documents." "These new National ID regulations violate every notion of federalism, because they force states to comply with regulations issued by the federal government without any constitutional authority to do so," said Poole recently. "Nor are federal agencies empowered to force states to gather detailed information on every person in order to comply with federal mandates. The net result of the DOT's regulations is to establish a National ID system, which has been opposed by almost every non-governmental sector for the past five decades." The moratorium is needed while efforts are made to repeal Section 656 (b) of the act. The moratorium will relieve states from spending money on unnecessary development costs. House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-TX, Rep. Ron Paul, R-TX, and Rep. Bob Barr, R-GA, have been working on repeal legislation, but there was insufficient time to bring it to a vote during this session of Congress. "Speaker Gingrich did come dangerously close to selling us out on National IDs," said a congressional staffer. Numerous grass-roots organizations opposed to the National ID system were celebrating the inclusion of the moratorium in the omnibus bill just passed by Congress. The DOT solicited public comments on their plans for implementation of Section 656 (b) of the act earlier this year. The public comment period has just closed and many thousands of letters in opposition were received, according to a spokesman. Five states also expressed opposition to the plan, and only a "small number" of letters supporting the plan were known to the spokesman, who spoke on condition that his name would not be published. The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators also wrote to the DOT and recommended repeal of the law, even though they had once been in favor of such legislation. "Over the past 10 years, the AAMVA has vigorously pushed Congress and the various state motor vehicle directors to implement policies to require the submission of social security numbers as a condition for issuance of driver's licenses. This resounding defeat may spell the end of their ill-fated quest," said Scott McDonald, a grass-roots activist who operates the "Fight the Fingerprint" website. He is able to mobilize thousands of activists on a national basis using his e-mail notification system. "There is no satisfactory condition under which Social Security Numbers may be required as a condition for travel," said McDonald. "The victory's definitely not yet won. During these lull periods there's an opportunity for proponents of these issues to let opposition die down and all of a sudden, pop, it goes through without anyone even aware of it. "I don't see how the Department of Transportation could go forth with implementing the regulation with all that strong opposition to it. Even five states wrote letters of strong opposition to requiring Social Security numbers," said McDonald. "This National ID is not just isolated to America. This is going on all over the world. Every country has some form of it going on," explained Jackie Juntti, leader of the Washington Grassroots E-mail Network. Her group takes credit for defeating an earlier effort in 1997 to put fingerprints on driver's licenses in Washington state. "We're just people out here trying to remain free," she said. Juntti's "NoID Orange Ribbon Campaign," found on many Internet Web sites, began after she refused to produce a driver's license to board an airplane. She was searched thoroughly and then granted a seat on the plane. "For a year we're safe," said Lisa Dean of the Coalition for Constitutional Liberties, another organization that has been actively campaigning against the provisions of Section 656 (b). She agreed that the toughest part of her organization's challenge is in front of her. Rep. Smith, and other proponents of the measure have framed their issue around illegal immigration. Dean's organization has received many responses for and against a National ID. Many have voiced support for her efforts, but some have told her "what difference does it make? The government already has our information," according to Dean. Others also mention the need to control illegal immigration. Now that a moratorium is in place for a year, Dean expects repeal efforts will also include finding alternative ways to resolve the concerns about illegal immigrants, although no recommendations are in place as yet. David Bresnahan, a WorldNetDaily contributing editor, hosts "Talk USA Investigative Reports" and is the author of "Cover Up: The Art and Science of Political Deception." His email address is David(a)talkusa.com. © 1998 Western Journalism Center --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). To receive "ISPI Clips" on a regular bases (up to 3 - 8 clips per day) send the following message "Please enter [Your Name] into the ISPI Clips list: [Your e-mail address]" to: ISPIClips(a)ama-gi.com . The Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) is a small contributor-funded organization based in Victoria, British Columbia (Canada). ISPI operates on a not-for-profit basis, accepts no government funding and takes a global perspective. ISPI's mandate is to conduct & promote interdisciplinary research into electronic, personal and financial privacy with a view toward helping ordinary people understand the degree of privacy they have with respect to government, industry and each other and to likewise inform them about techniques to enhance their privacy. But, none of this can be accomplished without your kind and generous financial support. If you are concerned about the erosion of your privacy in general, won't you please help us continue this important work by becoming an "ISPI Supporter" or by taking out an institute Membership? We gratefully accept all contributions: Less than $60 ISPI Supporter $60 - $99 Primary ISPI Membership (1 year) $100 - $300 Senior ISPI Membership (2 years) More than $300 Executive Council Membership (life) Your ISPI "membership" contribution entitles you to receive "The ISPI Privacy Reporter" (our bi-monthly 12 page hard-copy newsletter in multi-contributor format) for the duration of your membership. For a contribution form with postal instructions please send the following message "ISPI Contribution Form" to ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com . We maintain a strict privacy policy. Any information you divulge to ISPI is kept in strict confidence. It will not be sold, lent or given away to any third party. **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: ISPI Clips 5.51: Your Online Profile--Where You Go, What You Buy--Is Vulnerable
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.51: Your Online Profile--Where You Go, What You Buy--Is Vulnerable Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:04:28 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.51: Your Online Profile--Where You Go, What You Buy--Is Vulnerable News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Saturday October 17, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: TIME.com Magazine, OCTOBER 12, 1998 VOL. 152 NO. 15 http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/ Watch Your Tracks Your online profile--where you go, what you buy--is vulnerable. Here's how to protect it http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/1998/dom/981012/personal_time.your_ tech2a.html By MICHAEL KRANTZ TIME technology writer Run a search on your PC's hard drive for the phrase "User Profile," and you'll find a long list of items like this: "yahoo.comTRUE/FALSE 3262463 493 Y v=1&n=82iosk148jr9n." This gibberish is just one in a series of digital snapshots of my recent online travels: what websites I visited; what pages I viewed and for how long; what I bought, downloaded or printed. What's more, every site I visit can send programs called "cookies" down the phone line into my machine to snag this data and either use it to try to sell me something ("He spends time at E! Online? Let's spam him with that Titanic-for-$5 offer!") or sell my "profile" to some other marketer. Yikes. For years, of course, everyone from insurance adjusters to credit-card companies has made money swapping consumer profiles like baseball cards. But the Web is bringing this great American pastime to new levels of invasive splendor. Ironically, one of the most attractive features of the Net--its ability to customize content instantly--morphs smoothly into one of its most sinister: the ability to monitor who you are and what you're doing online, even as you do it. It's not just the embarrassment factor we're talking about here: the guy whose wife checks out his log and finds the porn sites he hit last night. Consider how much other personal data could become available as we conduct more and more of our lives in this (thus far) happily unregulated world--investing and paying our bills online, filling our prescriptions, etc. How forthright have websites been about telling users what data they're unwittingly providing? Not very. Last spring the Federal Trade Commission studied 1,400 sites and found that only 14% had posted privacy statements of any kind (though 71 of the 100 busiest sites did so). While a Senate committee last week approved legislation that would authorize the FTC to regulate the profiling of children, the agency seems willing to let the industry clean up its own act with regard to adults. Enter TRUSTe, a nonprofit group that has persuaded 270 of the Web's most popular sites to post and abide by statements telling what data they collect from visitors, how they use that data and how visitors can restrict that use. Web leaders such as America Online, Microsoft and Netscape plan an announcement this Wednesday to address privacy concerns. Some, though, are skeptical that a voluntary system will work. "If anybody's going to make money off your identity," says Fred Davis, chief executive officer of the software start-up Lumeria, based in Berkeley, Calif., "it should be you." And, of course, Fred Davis. Due in early 1999, Lumeria's software will, among other things, help you control your data, keeping nosy marketers from grabbing your profile unless you let them. In fact, Davis thinks companies will eventually pay for the privilege ("Hey, visitor No. 85834: we see you bought Titanic last week. We'll give you 500 frequent-flyer miles to tell us your name, age and income!"). For now, here's how you can keep those pesky cookies away. If you use Microsoft's Internet Explorer, choose Internet Options under your View menu, click the Advanced tab, scroll down to the Cookies subsection and choose "Disable all cookie use." If you use Netscape Navigator, go to Edit Preferences under the Edit menu and choose Advanced, then "Turn all cookies off." But be warned: many sites won't let you in if your browser rejects cookies, and others will harass you with dialogue boxes urging you to accept one. --------------------------------NOTICE:------------------------------ ISPI Clips are news & opinion articles on privacy issues from all points of view; they are clipped from local, national and international newspapers, journals and magazines, etc. Inclusion as an ISPI Clip does not necessarily reflect an endorsement of the content or opinion by ISPI. In compliance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed free without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISPI Clips is a FREE e-mail service from the "Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues" (ISPI). To receive "ISPI Clips" on a regular bases (up to 3 - 8 clips per day) send the following message "Please enter [Your Name] into the ISPI Clips list: [Your e-mail address]" to: ISPIClips(a)ama-gi.com . The Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) is a small contributor-funded organization based in Victoria, British Columbia (Canada). ISPI operates on a not-for-profit basis, accepts no government funding and takes a global perspective. ISPI's mandate is to conduct & promote interdisciplinary research into electronic, personal and financial privacy with a view toward helping ordinary people understand the degree of privacy they have with respect to government, industry and each other and to likewise inform them about techniques to enhance their privacy. But, none of this can be accomplished without your kind and generous financial support. If you are concerned about the erosion of your privacy in general, won't you please help us continue this important work by becoming an "ISPI Supporter" or by taking out an institute Membership? We gratefully accept all contributions: Less than $60 ISPI Supporter $60 - $99 Primary ISPI Membership (1 year) $100 - $300 Senior ISPI Membership (2 years) More than $300 Executive Council Membership (life) Your ISPI "membership" contribution entitles you to receive "The ISPI Privacy Reporter" (our bi-monthly 12 page hard-copy newsletter in multi-contributor format) for the duration of your membership. For a contribution form with postal instructions please send the following message "ISPI Contribution Form" to ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com . We maintain a strict privacy policy. Any information you divulge to ISPI is kept in strict confidence. It will not be sold, lent or given away to any third party. **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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IP: FBI Says Some U.S. Cities Vulnerable To Attack
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: FBI Says Some U.S. Cities Vulnerable To Attack Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:56:32 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Fox News - Reuters FBI Says Some U.S. Cities Vulnerable To Attack 2.13 p.m. ET (1814 GMT) October 16, 1998 WASHINGTON Some U.S. cities are unprepared for an attack by weapons of mass destruction with biological agents a greater danger than nuclear or chemical weapons, an FBI official said Friday. "Some American communities are very unprepared. They certainly don't have the equipment and resources necessary to handle a major attack,'' Robert Blitzer, chief of the FBI's domestic terrorism section, said. "The real weakness that we have right now is the ability to detect and counter a (biological weapons attack) because it's much more insidious and much more difficult to detect,'' he said. The FBI official, who was unable to give numbers on how many cities were unprepared, said communities were better able to deal with chemical and nuclear weapons attacks. Many fire departments have units that deal with hazardous materials and are ready to handle chemical weapons, he said. "On the nuclear side, there's a pretty robust capability to handle those kinds of issues and has been for many years,'' Blitzer said. He appeared at the weekly Justice Department news conference with U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, who announced a new office at the FBI to help state and local governments better respond to terrorist attacks with weapons of mass destruction. Reno said the office would help create training standards for local police, firefighters and rescue squads and would try to make sure they have the necessary equipment. "I want this new office to be a center for assistance and solutions, not a new bureaucracy,'' she said. "We are not interested in a top-down, one-size-fits-all solution.'' © Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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