December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

PLEASE HELP US RETURN OVER $400 BILLION TO ITS RIGHTFUL OWNERS!
by cashout＠ibm.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by yoji fujita 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Information From The Microsoft Personal Information Center
by mscompia＠microsoft.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here is your password you requested from the Microsoft Personal Information Center at http://register.microsoft.com/regwiz/personalinfo.asp. Password: cypherpunks If you continue to have access problems or want to report other issues, please contact us through the Write Us button at the top of any Microsoft page.

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emailed prez. death threat conviction
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://biz.yahoo.com/upi/98/03/11/general_news/usclinton_2.html Wednesday March 11 5:39 AM EST Teen convicted of Clinton e-mail threats MIDLAND, Mich., March 11 (UPI) _ A 17-year-old high school honors student faces jail after being convicted of sending e-mail death threats to President Clinton. Heidi Sullivan of Midland, Mich., was sentenced Tuesday to eight days in jail and two years probation for sending threats to the White House in January from a computer at Midland High School. Midland County Probation Officer Tom Adams says Sullivan could have received 20 years for threatening the president, but probably got the reduced sentence because of her family's history. [...] ..................... In other news President Might Go Under Knife WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sorry, Bill, it's for your own good. After consulting with his proctologist -- and hearing an appeal in favor of neutering from actress Doris Day -- First Lady Hillary Clinton has decided on the procedure for the President. But the reluctant First Lady reserved the right to change her mind. In announcing Hillary's decision Tuesday, White House spokesman Barry Toiv said Mrs. Clinton was ``inclined'' to allow the procedure. The National Organization of Women, the nation's largest women's rights group, applauded the First Lady's decision, saying she was doing the right thing. ``Neutering or spaying politicians is one of the most important acts a responsible society can take,'' said Martha Armstrong, a society vice president. ``It promotes better physical and behavioral health, and it helps to address the ubiquitous sexual misconduct crises.'' Hillary set no immediate date for putting her husband under the knife, leaving some to wonder whether the 50 year old former Arkansas governor has been told of his fate. ``Bill's a little too young to understand,'' Toiv said. Indeed, the President seemed blissfully unaware of any pending surgery as he played fetch with Buddy, the first dog, on the South Lawn with a green tennis ball Tuesday. White House press secretary Mike McCurry said today the procedure was ``not likely anytime soon given the dispositions and pending indictments.'' Toiv said Mrs. Clinton's decision was driven by concerns for her husband's health. She denied that it was motivated by the encounters Bill has had with Socks the family cat and various White House staff and interns. Dr. Jacqueline Suarez, a proctologist with the Alexandria (Va.) Army Hospital, said neutering can help curb politicians' aggression toward other politicians and tendency to fornicate in unwelcome places. ``Although, if we have people questioning if they should or shouldn't, those health reasons are good reasons to neuter as well, so we'll use them as part of the case for neutering,'' Suarez said. Miss Day, president of the Doris Day Humanitarian League, sent Clinton a letter in December expressing concern that the nation would suffer if he were left intact. Among them was a risk of impeachment in addition to testicular cancer and prostate infections that could lead to problems with urination. In January, McCurry said there were no plans to neuter the President, who had moved into the White House in 1993. However, Clinton physician Connie Mariano has now told Miss Day in a letter that Mrs. Clinton had decided to neuter the president on the advice of White House advisor James Carville. Armstrong said that politicians need not worry about losing their procreative abilities. ``Politicians don't have a real concept of identity or ego. Its all drive for power. Neutering a politician or justice department official will not change his basic personality,'' she said. ``They don't suffer any kind of emotional reaction or identity crisis when neutered.'' Got that, Mr. President? original at http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpwh1z.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu Beat your algorithms into swords and your virtual machines into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.

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Re: BATFC -- Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Cryptography
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 3/11/98 2:39 PM, Toto (toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca) passed this wisdom: >Brian B. Riley wrote: >> >> On 3/10/98 10:45 PM, John Young (jya(a)pipeline.com) passed this wisdom: >> >Swear to god this is the last time I'll try to ape well-mannered civil >> >discourse. You got the con: It's too sicko wacko. Back to incoherent >> >snarl of ignorant brutes chewing leg off for freedom. >> >> ROFLAAMAIBGFOT37thFOAOBDTADW: rollin on floor laffing almost as >> much as if Bill Gates fell out the 37th floor of an office building due >> to a defective window. > >Hey, asshole! >Thanks for telling *everyone* about our plan... >Now I have to contact Blanc Weber and Jeff Sandquist and tell >them we have to come up with a new scheme. >And *this* time, we're not telling *you* about it! > >Otot >~~~~ I guess I now can consider myself a part of the list. I am have officially and publically been called an asshole by Toto ... the waitng has been killing me!

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Re: BATFC -- Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Cryptography
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 10:31:09AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: > -- > > The Cato institute has done studies on comparative > remuneration which shows approximately double the salaries, > accompanied by vastly more security and power. > > At the bottom end, bus drivers and prison guards, this is > strikingly obvious. A muni bus driver makes about as much as > senior engineer in Silicon valley. > At the risk of an irrelevant and stupid digression from the topic of the threat, Is this really true ? The technical people I know who work for the government seem to get salaries that would be low in industry for someone with that background. And I'd be surprised that bus drivers out in silicon valley were really making the $60-95K that ordinary senior engineers designing bus drivers make around here (the NE). If they are, they are getting lots more than other municipal employees such as school teachers with masters degrees. (In fact, I've heard that demand had recently driven salaries in the valley way up and maybe my numbers for engineers are low, especially for software engineers.) There is, of course, that nasty law that classifies engineers as exempt professionals but allows companies to treat them as just cannon fodder workers stuffed into cubicles and treated with little of the respect the term professional would suggest - to be forced to work large amounts of completely uncompensated overtime. Bus drivers (non exempt) do get paid for every minute they are on the job, and many times work schedules are deliberately arranged to guarantee significant amounts of overtime at time and a half, so many bus drivers actually make a significant multiple of their nominal salary for the same hours engineers get base salary and no more. But I do think that Prof. Froomkin is right that a lot of top managers and legal types and others in government whose private sector equivalents get huge salaries do work at a considerable loss. Salaries for top of the heap government employees such as judges and managers of large departments with budgets in the tens or hundreds of millions rarely get more than $150K, whereas similar people would get much more in the private sector. Of course the job security differences are vast, and government workers are one of the very few classes of workers left in the economy who have any actual job security long term at all. -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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Re: [LEGAL] Crypto as Contraband?
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, Mar 08, 1998 at 11:41:41PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: Qouting worst proposal before congress... > > LEGAL TO USE CRYPTO: "After January 31, 2000, it shall not be > unlawful to use any encryption product purchased or in use prior to > such date." > > At the risk of raising yet another stupid and silly issue, does anybody know how this would apply to crypto (such as PGP) available in source form ? Would only binaries produced by compiling the source before the cutoff date be legal ? Or would compiling the source under a new version of the OS or new OS or even new instruction set (ISA-64 on a Merced for example) merely constitute reasonable use of the existing source product ? How about mechanical translations of the object to another environment or instruction set ? And what level of patches, bug fixes, or actual changes and improvements to the source would be legal if it was legal to compile the source and use the resulting binary after the cutoff ? -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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Re: Only In Anonymous...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > > There's nothing wrong with satire, but people ought to mark it as such, > when posting to a list filled with weak-minded and ideologically > blinded individuals. I've long said the same thing about the purported 'news' stories carried by the mainstream press, but the replies I have received from the news giants merely state that their office gang all had a good laugh over my 'satire'. Until the mainstream press begins marking their articles with such labels/disclaimers as 'half-truth'/'politically-biased'/'government- handout'/'self-serving'/'total-bullshit', etc., then I see no reason to require such labeling by individual netizens who may well be doing nothing more than writing the news of the near-future. You go cut wood, carry water--chop, chop, splash, splash... ZenRacistMonger

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House of Commons Library on US Sigint in Europe
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Simon Hossack has sent us a copy of a letter to Oliver Heald MP (UK) from the House of Commons Library on US signals intelligence in Europe, with focus on Menwith Hill. It is an answer to Mr. Heald's request for information on the charge of US spying in the STOA report as described by Duncan Campbell and Nicky Hager. The letter documents successive parlimentary and journalistic inquiries about the USA/UK 50-years-long arrangement for joint intelligence and HMG's answers. http://jya.com/hoc-ussigint.htm

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17 Dec '03

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ANNOUNCE: March Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting Saturday March 14, 12-6pm
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The March Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting will be held Saturday, March 14th, at Network Associates in Menlo Park. Time - 12 noon hang out, 1-5 program, followed by dinner nearby, various evening parties Agenda: Ian Goldberg's HINDE algorithm Reports from FC98 Anguilla Financial Cryptography conference Reports from Computers, Freedom, and Privacy CFP 98 Open PGP status discussion Work in progress Location: Network Associates, Inc Total Network Security division (formerly PGP, Inc) 4500 Bohannon Drive, Menlo Park Directions to NAI: Take 101 (from North or South) Exit at "Marsh Road/Atherton" Go West (young man) off exit (right exit lane coming south from SF). Turning to the West (away from the Bay / freeway) Get in Left lane immediately. Turn Left at very first light (Scott Drive, not far from freeway exit) (landmark: Shell gas station is on your right as you turn left) Go South on Scott ~2/3 mi (parallel to 101 freeway fence). Pass one Stop sign (do not turn yet). (landmark: Sun Microsystems has an office on the right) Scott curves to right, becomes Bohannon Drive. Turn left into first driveway: "Menlo Oak" Business Park Go straight through parking lot ~2-300 yds Curve 270 degrees around Fountain (effective left turn) #4500 is on left as you curve around fountain. Go down ~50 yds to main lobby entrance (south side of building). Ask reception for Dave Del Torto (call 415.730.3583 cel if any problem). Meeting room is behind reception area through first door on left. Known or Suspected Parties: Sandy's Masquerade in or near Oakland PENSFA at Jim & Heather's in Campbell "It's Green" filk-oriented potluck in San Jose (afternoon/evening) Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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San Bernardino... New Technology !!
by richardh＠cwsredlands.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello A major business announcement will take place in San Bernardino, California this week !!! If you have ever wanted to be on the INSIDE when such an event was about to occur, E-mail me back for complete details. Once you know what is happening, YOU WILL want to be IN ON IT, even if you can't be there !!! Hit reply, and put "insider details" in the subject line. Thank you & take care, Richard

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FBI CALEA Rule for Electronic Surveillance
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Federal Register: March 12, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 48)] [Page 12217-12310] SUMMARY: The FBI is providing the Final Notice of the requirements for actual and maximum capacity for the interception of the content of communications and call-identifying information that telecommunications carriers may be required to effect to support law enforcement's electronic surveillance needs, as mandated in section 104 of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) (Public Law 103-414, 47 U.S.C. 1001-1010). ---------- For full copy: http://jya.com/fbi031298.txt (685K) Zipped version: http://jya.com/fbi031298.zip (101K)

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Protection Commander 1.0
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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distribution
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thursday 3/12/98 7:34 AM Certified - Return Receipt Requested Cynthia McKinney 124 Cannon Building Washington, DC 20515 Office: (202)225-1605 Fax: (202)226-0691 http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ Dear Representative McKinney: PURPOSE of this letter is to ask your help for us to obtain copes of docket sheets from the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals for cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia. All of our legal efforts to obtain these documents, which any citizen has a right to, have failed. REASON you are selected to help is that you appear to be knowledgeable about operation of the current US federal government and willing to speak out in an attempt to solve problems. You appeared Friday February 27, 1998 on PBS, The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, along with senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers. These senators and congressmen appeared not to support your views because they are either mis- or not well-informed about US involvement in support of Saddam Hussein. Stories supporting your view appear on Internet at NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm and Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen http://caq.com/CAQ/caq63/caq63madsen.html Madsen begins It may be the greatest intelligence scam of the century: For decades, the US has routinely intercepted and deciphered top secret encrypted messages of 120 countries But NSA , and as a result the US federal government, apparnetly got caught involved in complicity of deaths of about 500,000 Iranians. This is the subject of a Federal lawsuit seen on Internet at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm US federal government help of Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war may possibly backfire on innocent US citizens. The Wall Street Journal, March 10, 1998, pp. B1, B9. reports A Peek Inside a Giant Germ Warehouse By Rochelle Sharpe Rockville, Md. -- They keep anthrax bacteria in the basement of a faded red-brick building here. It isn't far from the yellow-fever virus, the botulism bacteria and some of the hundreds of organisms that cause the common cold. In fact, there are samples of 85,000 different fungi, viruses, cells, genes and bacteria here at the American Type Culture Collection, by far the largest of the 450 repositories of biological materials scattered around the globe. ... The ATCC legally shipped 10 vials of anthrax, botulism and other deadly substances to Iraqi scientists in the 1980s -- when the U.S. and Iraq were on much friendlier terms -- all with the Commerce Department's approval. ... http://www.jya.com/btn031198.txt The US federal government apparently intended these bioweapons to be used against the people of Iran. You demonstrated on PBS TV a quality identified by Francis Bacon The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention. by your statement about Saddam Hussein on PBS ...our man and our creation... Perhaps after reading the above materials and The Problem of Paradigm Shifts - Terrorism and the Threat From Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East Working Draft Anthony H. Cordesman, Senior Fellow and Co-Director Middle East Studies Program October 22, 1996 http://www.csis.org/mideast/terror.html senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby, Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers MAY NOW understand why you are correct and they are mis- or not well-informed about US involvement with Saddam Hussein. PROBLEM we face with the US court system is that court clerks and judges have committed Title 18 felony violation of law IN WRITING in an attempt to deny us monetary compensation due us for the cases WE WON at the Tenth Circuit on Appeal. But judges awarded victories to the US federal government in violation of Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure. Cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia were both won pro se on appeal. We have filed a writ of mandamus with supreme court judge Scalia in an attempt to get the docket sheets for the two above cases. But Scalia will not answer our certified letters. Senator McCain wrote Payne on December 23, 1997 I wanted to take this opportunity of than you for you letter of December 3, 1997. Your situation is in the jurisdiction of Senator Pete Dominici. Therefore, I have forwarded you letter to his attention. William, I hope you situation can be resolved favorably. Lawyers and politicians Dominici and Bingaman are part of a problem not a solution. Dominici and Bingaman have the following agenda University of New Mexico Bureau for Business and Economic Research reported on October 14, 1997: A The Gross State Product of New Mexico is $37.8 billion. B The US Federal government sends $11.3 billion to New Mexico each year. C For each $1 New Mexico sends to Washington, New Mexico gets $2 back. THEREFORE, Representative McKinney, we ask your help to get copies of the docket sheets. Citizens of the US are becoming more upset with the behavior of bureaucrats, the courts [lawyers], and the US federal government. Some Americans have no other way to express their dissatisfaction with US federal government mismanagement of our country except by violence. Frederick Douglass either wrote or said on August 4, 1847 Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. These will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. We chose to use the words and law to hold government employees accountable. Please encourage Scalia to do his job. Help get us copies of the docket sheets. And even perhaps help investigate further and settle this American tragedy. Sincerely, Arthur R. Morales William H. Payne 1023 Los Arboles NW 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 Albuquerque, NM 87111 Enclosures 1 NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe 2 Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen 3 Swiss Radio International Audio tape, 15 May, 18 July 1994 Distribution Ben Nighthorse Campbell administrator(a)campbell.senate.gov Ernest Hollings senator(a)hollings.senate.gov Trent Lott senatorlott(a)lott.senate.gov Richard Shelby senator(a)shelby.senate.gov Charles Robb Senator_Robb(a)robb.senate.gov Jim Lehrer newshour(a)pbs.org

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new on Peacefire: TracerLock search monitor service (fwd)
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ken Williams /-| ORG: NC State Computer Science Dept VP of The E.H.A.P. Corp. |-\ | EML: jkwilli2(a)adm.csc.ncsu.edu ehap(a)hackers.com | | WWW: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/ http://www.hackers.com/ehap/ | | PGP: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/pubkey | \-| Chief weapons of UNIX: Fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency. |-/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:10:09 -0500 From: bennett(a)peacefire.org To: peacefire-broadcast(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: new on Peacefire: TracerLock search monitor service [You are receiving this after signing up for membership in Peacefire at http://www.peacefire.org/join/. To unsubscribe yourself from this list and cancel your Peacefire membership, see unsubscription instructions at the end of this message.] ******************************************************* "They set 'em up. We knock 'em down. And here we are again." -Emily Whitfield, national ACLU spokeswoman, on the Internet censorship bill recently passed in New Mexico Even though the Communications Decency Act was struck down by the Supreme Court in the summer of 1997, New Mexico has just passed their own statewide version of the infamous Internet censorship law. Senate Bill 127, recently signed by the governor of New Mexico, makes it illegal to place information "harmful to minors" on the Internet where a person under 18 would be able to access it. The EFF and the ACLU have said they will fight the law in court; the ACLU has already won lawsuits to overturn similar laws in four other states. If you know someone living in New Mexico, or if you live in New Mexico, we need your help! Peacefire is creating a "civil disobedience" page for Internet users to protest the New Mexico law. By filling out a form on our Web site, a user will be able to click a button and automatically send a Bible verse that mentions sex, or an excerpt on birth control from the plannedparenthood.org Web page, to a Peacefire member under 18 living in New Mexico. These are the type of materials that would violate the Communications Decency Act and New Mexico's S.B. 127. Although the volunteer living in New Mexico can simply delete the messages as they arrive, it will still count as an act of civil disobedience for the user to fill out the form that causes the message to be transmitted. Please help us find someone living in New Mexico who could volunteer to receive the automatic e-mails and delete them. The number of e-mails should be small (less than 10 per day), and they will all have the same identical subject line so they will be easy to recognize and delete. (If the number of e-mails grows beyond that, we can have several volunteers.) More online coverage of the New Mexico law: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,19859,00.html -Bennett --- To leave Peacefire and unsubscribe yourself from this list, send a message to "majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu" with the message body: unsubscribe peacefire-broadcast Please note that the only requirement for being a member of Peacefire is to remain subscribed to peacefire-broadcast, but if you unsubscribe from this list you will no longer be a member. bennett(a)peacefire.org (615) 421 6284 http://www.peacefire.org

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Pauline Hanson hits Sydney
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here is an excellent opportunity for Pauline Hanson supporters in New South Wales to come meet and hear Australia's best known politician. Pauline Hanson will be speaking on the failures of successive governments, the dangers facing Australians and the urgent need for our country to change direction and once again prioritise the needs of our people. Tickets will be sold at the door at most venues. Enquiries should be directed to One Nation Manly office - (02) 9976 0283 Her Sydney itinerary: Today (13th March 1998) Speaking on Channel 9s Midday Show. 7.30pm Public meeting at AJC Club in Allison Road, Randwick Tomorrow (Saturday 14th March) 12 noon - Hawkesbury Sportsman's Club, Beaumont Ave North Richmond. (NOTE: This is a luncheon also featuring 2GB Radio personality Brian Wiltshire) 7.30pm - Joan Sutherland Centre, High Str., Penrith Sunday 15th March 2pm - Cessnock Town Hall, Darwin Street, Cessnock 7.30pm - Dural Country Club, 662 Old Northern Road, DURAL Monday 16th March 7.30pm Manly Warringah Leagues Club, Pittwater Road, Brookvale Tuesday 17th March 7.30pm Wyong Multi-Function centre, Healey Str, Wyong Show your support. BE THERE! GWB Scott Balson

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get me off
by JO COOPER 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello- ANYONE!!! Please, my young son subscribed me to this -whatever you are- and I cannot get off- I do not want any e-mail from you. Can I please get instructions as to how to stop this? Thank you

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Senate Cmte to hear Testimony About Bernstein Case
by Cindy Cohn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on the Constitution, Federalism, and Property Rights will hear testimony from Cindy Cohn, lead counsel in the Bernstein case on March 17, 1997. The hearing, entitled "Privacy in the Digital Age: Encryption and Mandatory Access," will begin at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building. The Subcommittee is chaired by Senator John Ashcroft of Missouri. Ms. Cohn will discuss the Bernstein case as well as the inherent constitutional problems raised by the proposals for domestic cryptography controls. This will be the first time that the Congressional committees considering proposed cryptography legislation have heard testimony from those directly involved in the legal challenges the current regulations. The government's appeal of the Bernstein case, which was argued on December 8, 1997, is still pending with the 9th Circuit. A decision is expected in the next few months. ****************************** Cindy A. Cohn, Cindy(a)McGlashan.com McGlashan & Sarrail, P.C. 177 Bovet Road, 6th Floor San Mateo, CA 94402 (650) 341-2585 (tel) (650) 341-1395 (fax)

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Fortify
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tthe remarkably hackable nature of Netscape's "weak" crypto has been marveled at here and in the press, but has no one else speculated on how this state of affairs came to be? I, for one, would like to thank the anonymous cypherpunks toiling in the bowels of Netscape. An amazing feat, achieving world-wide distribution of millions of copies of strong crypto, the Feds all unknowing. Does anyone here _not_ think this was the deliberate act of one or more cryptoanarchists?

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"Make your Mailbox an ATM Machine"
by lauke31＠prodigy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<HTML><PRE><BODY BGCOLOR="#00ffff"> MAKE YOUR MAILBOX YOUR CASH ATM MACHINE! Immediately Make a Copy of this Letter, PRINT IT SAVE and READ again. I received this Letter 3 times before I decided to try it. I beat up on my self for not joining this group sooner ===Add your Name the our Mailing List and start Receiving Cash!=== Greetings: Hopefully my name is still on the list below. I am a retired attorney and about two years ago, a man came to me with a letter. NOTE: This is not a chain letter. THIS SERVICE IS 100% LEGAL! (Refer to TITLE 18, Section 1302 & 1342 of the U.S. POSTAL and LOTTERY LAWS). The letter he brought me is basically the same letter you have in your hands. He asked me to verify the fact that this letter was legal to do. I told him I would review it and get back to him. When I first read the letter my client brought me, I thought it was some kind of off-the wall idea to make money. A week and a half later, we met in my office to discuss the issue. I told him to make a small change in the letter and it would be all right. I was still curious about the letter, so he told me how it works. I thought it was a long shot, so I decided against participating, but before my client left, I asked him to keep me updated as to his result. About two months later he called me to tell me HE HAD RECEIVED OVER $800,000.00 IN CASH. I didn't believe him, so he asked me to try his idea and find out for my self. I thought about it for a couple days and decided I didn't really have anything to lose, so I asked him for a copy of the letter. I followed the instructions exactly, mailed out 200 copies, and sure enough, the money started arriving! It came slowly at first, but after about three weeks, I was getting more mail than I could open in a day. After about three months the money stopped coming. I KEPT PRECISE RECORDS OF THE EARNINGS AND AT THE END, IT TOTALED $868,494.00! I was earning a good living as a lawyer, but anyone in the legal profession will tell you, there is a lot of stress that comes with the job. I told myself if things work out, I would retire from the practice and play golf. I decided to try the letter again, but this time I sent 500 letter out. Well, three months later, I HAD TOTALED $2,344,178.00 ! I just couldn't believe it. I met my old client for lunch to find out how it worked. He told me there are quite a few similar letters going around. WHAT MAKES THIS ONE DIFFERENT IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SEVEN NAMES INSTEAD OF FIVE LIKE MOST OTHERS. That fact alone results in your name being on far more return. The other factor was the help I gave him in making sure the whole thing was perfectly legal, since nobody wants to risk doing something illegal. I'll bet by now you are curious to know what little change I told him to make. Well, If you sent a letter like this out, to be legal, you need to actually sell something if you expect to receive a DOLLAR. I told him anyone sending a dollar back to him must receive something in return. So, when you send a dollar to each of the seven people on the list, you must include a slip of paper with the words: "Please put me on your mailing list", include your, name, mailing address, e-mail optional... THIS IS THE KEY TO THE PROGRAM!! THE ITEM YOU WILL RECEIVE FOR THE DOLLAR YOU SEND TO THE SEVEN NAMES IS YOUR NAME ON THEIR MARKETING LETTER AND THE RIGHT TO EARN THOUSANDS ! ! Follow the simple instructions below exactly, & in less than three months, you will receive over $800,000.00 GUARANTEED!!!!!!!! 1. Immediately send $1.00 to each of the seven people on the list below, wrap a dollar in a note saying, "Please add me to your mailing list" and include your name, mailing address , optional e-mail address. 2. Remove the names in the #1 position on the list and move the rest of the names up one position. Then place your name in the #7 position. This is best done by saving this to a text file and editing it yourself and saving the new edited copy. Or typing a new list, (Only the names) taping or gluing over the old ones. Or by. Be very careful when you type the address and proof read them. 1. G. Paul, 314 Sidney Martin St., Lafayette, LA 70507 2. I.A. Goodspeed, 33080 Brockway St, Union City, CA 94587 3. M. Alfred, P.O. Box 33366, San Antonio, Texas 78265 4. Ophelia Williams, 1250 E. Alexander St, Lafayette, LA 70501 5. Ed.. Bronsc, 9824 South Western Avenue #321, Evergreen Park, IL 60805 6. ABC Sales, 12541A South Western, Box 4, Blue Island, IL 60406 7. S. Andrews, 89 Park Street, Rear Building #2, Montclair, NJ 07042 3. When you have completed the instructions, you have the option of mailing your New Letter out in two ways: (1) by e-mail or (2)Through the U.S. Postal Service. Either way will bring big payoffs. This letter has been proven perfectly legal for both ways as long as you follow the above instructions, because you are purchasing membership in an exclusive mailing list. To mail this out over the Internet,. All you have to do is order several hundred thousand e-mails from a provider like the one below. Also you can go to the members directory in AOL and there you can collect thousands of names for free. However, you will need a utility to collect these names from AOL. As a Member of AOL, go the Keyword, there is a free software utility under BPS software called Power tools. This will allow you to cut and paste e-mails . Remember it does not cost anything to mail on the Internet. Or you can get a Mass Mail Network to mail it out in large volumes for you. We highly recommend this one. They always email more than you purchase and their address are fresh. Mail this letter to them with your name and address in the Position # 7 above. A good one to use is: Global Frontiers Marketing 732-728-0064 They are fair and do a good job of mailing to lots of internet providers. 4. We have a Fresh List of AOL Email address ready to use. These addresses are downloaded weekly. 50,000 AOL E-mail addresses $7.50; 100,000/ $10.00 you also get a Free Mailer with and order of 100,000 e-mails These addresses are on 3 .5 Disk. Ebran Marketing 9824 South Western Suite 321 Evergreen Park, IL 60805 5. If you are going to use the traditional U.S. Postal Service to do this program, you will want to make copies of this letter at a copy center (kinkos copy service) and order a minimum of 500 names (1000 is best) from a mailing list company. Ebran Marketing, 9824 S. Western Ave, Suite 321, Evergreen Park, IL 60805 500/ $15.00 1000/ $20.00 These two also have effective lists: Avon Distributors ~ P.O. Box B11 ~ Shelly, ID 83274 ~ (800) 992-3866 DataLine ~ P.O.Box 7348 ~ Omaha, NE 68107 ~ (800)497-2912 (A) While waiting for you list to arrive, place your copies in envelopes, stamp, and seal them. DO NOT PUT YOUR RETURN ADDRESS ON THE ENVELOPES! This will only pique the curiosity of the receiver. (B) When your mailing list arrives, place a label on each of your envelopes and drop them in the mail box. Within 90 days, you will receive over $800,000.00 in cash !!! * Keep a copy of this letter so you can use it a second time. Mail it out again in about six months but mail it to the addresses you receive with each dollar. It will work again, only much better! BE SURE TO MAIL $1.00 TO EACH OF THE NAMES ON THE LIST ABOVE. INTEGRITY AND HONESTY WILL MAKE THIS PLAN WORK. And together WE WILL ALL PROSPER. Here's how the system works: Assume for example you get a 7.5% return rate, which is very conservative. My first attempt was about 9.5% and my second was over 11%. 1.When you send out 200 letters, 15 people will send you $1.00 = $15.00 2.Those 15 mail out 200 letters each and 225 people send $1.00 =$225.00 3.Those 225 mail out 200 letters each and 3,375 people send $1.00=$3,375.00 4.Those 3,375 mail out 200 letters each and 50,625 people send $1.00=$50,625.00 5.Those 50,625 mail out 200 letters each and 759,372 people send $1.00=$759,372.00 At this point your name drops off the list...but so far you have received $813,612.00 It works every time, but how well depends on how many letters you send out. In the example above, you mailed out 200 letters, if you had mailed out 500 letters, you would have received over $2,00,017. NOW, just think if you send out 50,000 to 100,000 e-mails and you only get 1.5 to a 3% response and each person responding send out another 50,000 to 100,000 with the 1.5 to 3% response. Now you see you can easily reach the $800,000 plus with little effort on your part. (Check the Math Yourself) With this kind of possible return, you have got to try it.Try it once and you will do it again!!!!. Just make sure you send a DOLLAR to each of the seven names on the list with a note to be added to their mailing list. Follow the above instructions exactly, you will have SUCCESS!!!!!! PS: You have read this far, so let me ask you one simple question: What do you have to loose? Just $7.00, but with a little effort on your part, you can gain over $800,000 EVERYBODY ON THE LIST NEEDS EVERYBODY'S HELP. TRY IT NOW ! ! Place your name on our mailing List by sending your $1.00 to each of the 7 names above today. Within about 14 days you will need help counting your $1.00 bills </PRE></HTML

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ANSWERS
by simon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

have you got a hacker and if you have would you mind if you could send over to me? WE ARE DESIGNING A HACKING SYSTEM FOR WORLD WIDE USE AND WONDERED IF YOU COULD HELP IN THE DESIGNING OF IT IF SO PLEASE SEND AN E-MAIL TO US AND WE WILL SEND YOU SOME VALUABLE OTHER HACKING SOFTWARE

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Re: get me off/ME TOO!
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-12 23:17:51 EST, joc(a)pdx.oneworld.com writes: << Hello- ANYONE!!! Please, my young son subscribed me to this -whatever you are- and I cannot get off- I do not want any e-mail from you. Can I please get instructions as to how to stop this? >> Me too. Take me off of your stinkin' list. Stan and the Sequencers

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Correction re Senate testimony
by Cindy Cohn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My earlier post was slightly overstated. Phil Karn has testified before Congress numerous times about his legal challenge and has consistently pushed these issues in the legislature. My testimony will be the first time any of the attorneys involved have been asked to discuss the constitutional problems with the cryptography restrinctions. My apologies to Phil. Cindy ****************************** Cindy A. Cohn, Cindy(a)McGlashan.com McGlashan & Sarrail, P.C. 177 Bovet Road, 6th Floor San Mateo, CA 94402 (650) 341-2585 (tel) (650) 341-1395 (fax)

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Re: Correction re Senate testimony
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Take me off of this list. Stan

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taocp v3 p32
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: Swiss radio international tape Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:06 -0700 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> To: taocp(a)cs.stanford.edu Knuth Hope you got a copy of the tape. I wonder or not whether you knew that NSA ACTIVELY tried to suppress knowledge and research on shift register sequences. And Forth too. Looks like possibly a BAD SCENE ahead. Best, allahu akbar, etc. bill Title: Don Knuth's Home Page : Donald E. Knuth (<img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/gaoduhnah.gif" align="absmiddle" border=0 alt="U+9AD8+5FB7+7EB3">), Professor Emeritus of The Art of Computer Programming at Stanford University, welcomes you to his home page. <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Frequently Asked Questions <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Recent News <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Computer Musings --> <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Known Errors in My Books <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Important Message to all Users of TeX <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Help Wanted <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Preprints of Recent Papers <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Curriculum Vitæ <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Pipe Organ <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Downloadable Graphics <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Downloadable Programs <img src="http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/jofa.gif" alt="*" align="top" border=0 hspace=10>Expecting a check from me? (don't click here) <img src="http://www-cs.stanford.edu/gifs/logo.csd.gif" align="absmiddle" border=0 hspace=10>Stanford Computer Science Home Page Thursday 3/12/98 7:34 AM Certified - Return Receipt Requested Cynthia McKinney 124 Cannon Building Washington, DC 20515 Office: (202)225-1605 Fax: (202)226-0691 http://www.house.gov/mckinney/ Dear Representative McKinney: PURPOSE of this letter is to ask your help for us to obtain copes of docket sheets from the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals for cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia. All of our legal efforts to obtain these documents, which any citizen has a right to, have failed. REASON you are selected to help is that you appear to be knowledgeable about operation of the current US federal government and willing to speak out in an attempt to solve problems. You appeared Friday February 27, 1998 on PBS, The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, along with senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers. These senators and congressmen appeared not to support your views because they are either mis- or not well-informed about US involvement in support of Saddam Hussein. Stories supporting your view appear on Internet at NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm and Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen http://caq.com/CAQ/caq63/caq63madsen.html Madsen begins It may be the greatest intelligence scam of the century: For decades, the US has routinely intercepted and deciphered top secret encrypted messages of 120 countries But NSA , and as a result the US federal government, apparnetly got caught involved in complicity of deaths of about 500,000 Iranians. This is the subject of a Federal lawsuit seen on Internet at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm US federal government help of Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war may possibly backfire on innocent US citizens. The Wall Street Journal, March 10, 1998, pp. B1, B9. reports A Peek Inside a Giant Germ Warehouse By Rochelle Sharpe Rockville, Md. -- They keep anthrax bacteria in the basement of a faded red-brick building here. It isn't far from the yellow-fever virus, the botulism bacteria and some of the hundreds of organisms that cause the common cold. In fact, there are samples of 85,000 different fungi, viruses, cells, genes and bacteria here at the American Type Culture Collection, by far the largest of the 450 repositories of biological materials scattered around the globe. ... The ATCC legally shipped 10 vials of anthrax, botulism and other deadly substances to Iraqi scientists in the 1980s -- when the U.S. and Iraq were on much friendlier terms -- all with the Commerce Department's approval. ... http://www.jya.com/btn031198.txt The US federal government apparently intended these bioweapons to be used against the people of Iran. You demonstrated on PBS TV a quality identified by Francis Bacon The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention. by your statement about Saddam Hussein on PBS ...our man and our creation... Perhaps after reading the above materials and The Problem of Paradigm Shifts - Terrorism and the Threat From Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East Working Draft Anthony H. Cordesman, Senior Fellow and Co-Director Middle East Studies Program October 22, 1996 http://www.csis.org/mideast/terror.html senators Campbell, Hollings, Lott, Shelby, Robb and representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Harold Rogers MAY NOW understand why you are correct and they are mis- or not well-informed about US involvement with Saddam Hussein. PROBLEM we face with the US court system is that court clerks and judges have committed Title 18 felony violation of law IN WRITING in an attempt to deny us monetary compensation due us for the cases WE WON at the Tenth Circuit on Appeal. But judges awarded victories to the US federal government in violation of Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure. Cases No. 94-2205, Payne v Sandia and 95-2204, Morales v Sandia were both won pro se on appeal. We have filed a writ of mandamus with supreme court judge Scalia in an attempt to get the docket sheets for the two above cases. But Scalia will not answer our certified letters. Senator McCain wrote Payne on December 23, 1997 I wanted to take this opportunity of than you for you letter of December 3, 1997. Your situation is in the jurisdiction of Senator Pete Dominici. Therefore, I have forwarded you letter to his attention. William, I hope you situation can be resolved favorably. Lawyers and politicians Dominici and Bingaman are part of a problem not a solution. Dominici and Bingaman have the following agenda University of New Mexico Bureau for Business and Economic Research reported on October 14, 1997: A The Gross State Product of New Mexico is $37.8 billion. B The US Federal government sends $11.3 billion to New Mexico each year. C For each $1 New Mexico sends to Washington, New Mexico gets $2 back. THEREFORE, Representative McKinney, we ask your help to get copies of the docket sheets. Citizens of the US are becoming more upset with the behavior of bureaucrats, the courts [lawyers], and the US federal government. Some Americans have no other way to express their dissatisfaction with US federal government mismanagement of our country except by violence. Frederick Douglass either wrote or said on August 4, 1847 Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them. These will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. We chose to use the words and law to hold government employees accountable. Please encourage Scalia to do his job. Help get us copies of the docket sheets. And even perhaps help investigate further and settle this American tragedy. Sincerely, Arthur R. Morales William H. Payne 1023 Los Arboles NW 13015 Calle de Sandias NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 Albuquerque, NM 87111 Enclosures 1 NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe 2 Crypto AG: The NSA's Trojan Whore? by Wayne Madsen 3 Swiss Radio International Audio tape, 15 May, 18 July 1994 Distribution Ben Nighthorse Campbell administrator(a)campbell.senate.gov Ernest Hollings senator(a)hollings.senate.gov Trent Lott senatorlott(a)lott.senate.gov Richard Shelby senator(a)shelby.senate.gov Charles Robb Senator_Robb(a)robb.senate.gov Jim Lehrer newshour(a)pbs.org Title: Space Related Applications of Forth Space-Related Applications of Forth Compiled by James Rash NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Greenbelt, Maryland Introduction. The following table presents space-related applications of Forth microprocessors and the Forth programming language, including spacecraft flight system controllers on-board payload experiment controllers ground support systems (e.g., communications controllers and data processing systems) hardware or software used to build or test either flight or ground systems. Developers are requested to supply table updates and corrections, as well as information regarding relevant projects not already included, as appropriate. Please send information, comments, and suggestions to the author of this web page. Authorization for release of the information is the responsibility of the contributor. Please notify the author concerning any non functional URLs, links, or contact information in the table. Further information on Forth, including the ANSI standard (ANS Forth): Forth Interest Group Maryland Forth Interest Group: http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~nbuck/fig.html --> Taygeta Notice: Nothing appearing in these pages is to be construed as an endorsement by NASA. The information may be changed or withdrawn at any time without notice. The author has obtained the information from sources believed to be reliable, and has attempted to ensure accuracy, but makes no guarantees or representations of any kind. Copying, using, and distributing the table is authorized, provided it is kept intact, properly attributed, and accompanied by this Notice. DEVELOPER MISSION DESCRIPTION FURTHER INFORMATION (note: remove blanks from email addresses given below) Ball Aerospace (click on "Aerospace" link) Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) Star Scanner instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Advanced X-Ray Astronomical Facility (AXAF) Software to control the Science Instrument selection and focus mechanisms, using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Advanced X-Ray Astronomical Facility (AXAF) Software to operate precision CCD Aspect Camera, using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Earth Observing System (EOS) Scanning mirror controller for the Thermal Imaging Radiometer (TIR), using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Midcourse Sensor Experiment (MSX) - SDIO Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Military aircraft Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Miniature Seeker Technology Integration (MSTI) Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Shuttle Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace Submillimeter Wave Astronomy Satellite (SWAS) Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Ball Aerospace X-ray Timing Explorer (XTE) Star Tracker instrument & control software, using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Advance Composition Explorer (ACE) Cosmic Ray Isotope Spectrometer (CRIS) instrument controller hardware (RTX2010) and software in Forth Walter Cook at wrc@ thor.srl.caltech.edu California Institute of Technology (Caltech) Advance Composition Explorer (ACE) Solar IsotopeSpectrometer (SIS) instrument controller hardware (RTX2010) and software in Forth Walter Cook at wrc@ thor.srl.caltech.edu Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (JHU/APL) USAF DMSP Magnetometer instrument control JHU/APL USAF DMSP Special Sensor Ultraviolet Spectrographic Imager (SSUSI), 5 missions over 15 years using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor JHU/APL Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) satellite ULEIS (Ultra Low Energy Isotope Spectrometer), using embedded Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor JHU/APL CASSINI spacecraft Magnetospheric Imager (MIMI) using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor JHU/APL HILAT Magnetometer instrument control JHU/APL Hopkins Ultraviolet Telescope (HUT) Instrument control, on-line data analysis, telemetry JHU/APL MAGSAT Attitude Control Processor JHU/APL "Polar Bear" (Polar Beacon & Auroral Research Satellite) Magnetometer instrument control JHU/APL US Navy LONARS High precision navigation receiver using Loran-C Real time data processing & sensor control software JHU/APL Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) Command & Telemetry Processor, Multi-Spectral Imaging System, Infrared Spectrograph and Magnetometer, X-ray/Gamma-ray Spectrometer, and Laser Rangefinder, all using the Harris RTX 2010RH Forth microprocessor Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) satellite Solar wind data processing unit, using Harris RTX 2010 Forth microprocessor McDonnell Douglas Shuttle - Electrophoresis Operations in Space (1986) Pharmaceutical purification process control software Robert Wood at rwood@ mdc.com McGill University International Microgravity Laboratory (IML-1) (Shuttle mission STS-42) Space Adaptation Syndrom Experiment management and data acquisition for four out of seven life science experiments Luc Lefebvre at lefebvre@ medcor.mcgill.ca NASA/GSFC Compatibility Test Van (CTV) Dual channel PCM simulator system software NASA/GSFC Compatibility Test Van (CTV): Landsat, HST, GRO, COBE, UARS, etc., Wallops, Data Evaluation Lab Programmable Data Formatter III system software NASA/GSFC CRAF/CASSINI MASSACQ Flight Instrument Test/Calibration System NASA/GSFC Marine Optical Buoy (MOBY) Command and data acquisition system written in Forth Mark Yarbrough at yarbrough@ mlml.calstate.edu NASA/GSFC Massively Parallel Processor (MPP) Image processing software NASA/GSFC NCC Mission Operations Support Area (MOSA) ITR (Intelligent Transmitter/Receiver) -- Interface board for MOSA (formerly Mini-NOCC) Front End Thomas Sardella at Thomas.E.Sardella.1@ gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC Shuttle Solar Backscatter Ultra Violet (SSBUV) ozone calibration instrument with 8 successful Shuttle bay flights Small Payload Accommodation Module (SPAM) interface controller software written in Forth Bob Caffrey at Robert.T.Caffrey.1@ gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC Shuttle Solar Backscatter Ultra Violet (SSBUV) Instrument Interface Electronics Module (IIEM) software written in Forth John T. (Tom) Riley at john.t.riley.1@ gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC Shuttle Ozone Limb Sounder Experiment (SOLSE) A "Hitchhiker Junior", to fly summer '97 -- instrument controller written in Forth (ditto) NASA/GSFC Limb Ozone Retrieval Experiment (LORE) A small independent instrument within SOLSE -- instrument controller written in Forth (ditto) NASA/GSFC Ultraviolet Imaging Telescope (UIT) on Space Shuttle Astro-2 mission Dedicated Experiment Processor (DEP) written in Forth Peter Chen at chen@ uit.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC Small Spacecraft Technology Initiative (SSTI) (Lewis Research Center/TRW) Goddard Electronics Module (GEM) data acquisition processor using Harris RTX-2010 Jay T. Miller at jay.t.miller.1@ gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/GSFC ACE (JHU/APL) Spacecraft Loads & Acoustic Monitor (SLAM) simultaneous data acquisition and downlink subsystem using Harris RTX-2010 (ditto) NASA/GSFC Wideband Transport Frame Formatter (WTFF) Virtual channel processor & system controller for the Advanced Orbiting Systems (AOS) Testbed using Harris RTX 2000 Forth microprocessor Jose Bentancort at Jose@ tsi-telsys.com NASA/JSC Shuttle, IML-1 Krug Life Sciences Microgravity Vestibular Investigations NASA/JPL Shuttle Imaging Radar (SIR-B) Command & control software NASA TOPEX Portion of Ground Support Equipment software Orbital Sciences Corporation ORBCOMM Experimental Package OXP-1 on Pegasus Flight & experiment software Orbital Sciences Corporation ORBCOMM Experimental Package OXP-1 on Pegasus Flight & experiment software Orbital Sciences Corporation (formerly Fairchild Space & Defense) USAF Multimission Modular Spacecraft (MMS) Multiplex Data Bus Monitor/Recorder test equipment using Harris RTX2000 microprocessor and firmware written in Forth Mark A. Mowen at markmowen@ fsd.com Orbital Sciences Corporation ORBCOMM-X Telemetry, flight control support Orbital Sciences Corporation USAF APEX Data management and power control software Orbital Sciences Corporation SeaStar Sea WiFs data management and power control software Orbital Sciences Corporation/Hercules Pegasus Telemetry & flight control Radio Amateur Satellite Corp. (AMSAT-DL (Germany)) AMSAT OSCAR 10, OSCAR 13, OSCAR 21, and (in development) Phase 3-D amateur radio satellites Integrated Housekeeping Unit (including navigation, attitude control, telemetry and telecommand tracking, payload control, power management, health & safety, and propulsion control) and Ground Support Equipment, all using the Forth-like language IPS (Interpreter for Process Structures). OSCAR 21 used the Harris RTX2000 microprocessor. Swedish Space Corp./JHU/APL Freja Magnetometer experiment control Lawrence Zanetti at zanetti@ jhuapl.edu University of California Galileo Magnetic Field Experiment instrument control University of Wisconsin Wisconsin Ultraviolet Photo-Polarimeter Experiment (WUPPE) Instrument control US Navy SPINSAT Portion of ground support equipment software USSR Baikonur Cosmodrome Telemetry data analysis & retrieval workstations Vertex Communications Corporation Satellite earthstation antenna systems 7210 Monopulse Antenna Control System on Motorola 68030 platform sales@ vcsd.com Last revised: 4 March 1998 Name Mail Code Responsible management official Sylvia Sheppard 588 Author James Rash at james.rash@ gsfc.nasa.gov 588  For reference purposes, this page is located at URL: http://groucho.gsfc.nasa.gov/forth

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Re: taocp v3 p32
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-13 21:49:06 EST, billp(a)nmol.com writes: << Subj: taocp v3 p32 Date: 98-03-13 21:49:06 EST From: billp(a)nmol.com (bill payne) Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com To: taocp(a)cs.stanford.edu, lawya(a)lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk, merata(a)pearl.sums.ac.ir, wir(a)monkey-boy.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk, cyberia-l(a)listserv.aol.com CC: merata(a)pearl.sums.c.ir, lawya(a)lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk, sjmz(a)hplb.hpl.hp.com, wmadsen(a)explorerer.csc.com File: taocpv3p.mim (29360 bytes) DL Time (28800 bps): < 1 minute This message is a multi-part MIME message and will be saved with the default filename taocpv3p.mim -------------------- Subject: Swiss radio international tape Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:45:06 -0700 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> To: taocp(a)cs.stanford.edu Knuth Hope you got a copy of the tape. I wonder or not whether you knew that NSA ACTIVELY tried to suppress knowledge and research on shift register sequences. And Forth too. Looks like possibly a BAD SCENE ahead. Best, allahu akbar, etc. bill ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com> Received: from relay31.mx.aol.com (relay31.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.31]) by air16.mail.aol.com (v40.7) with SMTP; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:49:06 -0500 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by relay31.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA06784; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10873 for cypherpunks-unedited-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from portal.dx.net (portal.dx.net [199.190.65.2]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10868 for <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nmol.com ([206.162.11.2]) by portal.dx.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA24071 for <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:17:24 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:21:06 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Billp Received: from billp [206.162.11.158] by nmol.com with smtp id BDAJDCFG ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3509E567.2364(a)nmol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:04:46 -0700 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: taocp(a)cs.stanford.edu, lawya(a)lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk, merata(a)pearl.sums.ac.ir, wir(a)monkey-boy.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk, cyberia-l(a)listserv.aol.com CC: merata(a)pearl.sums.c.ir, lawya(a)lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk, sjmz(a)hplb.hpl.hp.com, wmadsen(a)explorerer.csc.com Subject: taocp v3 p32 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------66B76F3BBA4" Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk >> Unsubscribe me from this list. Stan

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New Website is up!!
by Jared 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

New Web page up at HTTP://WWW.INSTANTWEB.COM/~SALEM/ CHECK IT OUT!! THANKS!! -CypherPunks Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com

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Re: time to export RSA and demand to be prosecuted? (Re: Cypherpunks Crypto_Legal Assistance Fund)
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan wrote: >If anyone chooses to try this act of civil disobedience, let me know and >I'll write about it. But be warned: the Department of Commerce has >approximately 60 special agents who enforce violations of export rules. >These are federal police officers, stationed in field office around the >U.S., with badges and arrest power, trained at FLETC in Georgia. They don't >have a sense of humor about these things. Well, yes, that's what BXA flaunts, but I wonder if the encryption regs are a high priority compared to the cases which are actually pursued which deal with truly threatening technology that every congressperson loves to fearfully hate. Yapping Chihuahua crypto is not up there yet, I suspect. True, there's a batch of agents being trained to work specifically on encryption, and with the total of crypto exports now exceeding $half a billion, it may be cost and politically effective to set an example by pounding one or two neo-crypto-Zimmermanns, especially as the year's hearings rumble, troll and slumber. Still, Adam's signature RSA-taunt has been on our Web site for months, terminating each of his exemplary stream of messages on low perfidy in high places, to no effect on BXA's eagle eyeball. Adam's 3-liner was also once part of Peter Junger's legal filings <http://jya.com/pdj4.htm> (DoJ downloaded the evidence) until we were ordered to excise the tiny terrible Perl so that Peter's noble bite of the hand of god would be clearly his stiletto fangs and not confused with Sir Adam Bulldog's ass ripper. Now, Declan, what would a crypto-miscreant need to do to actually get BXA's fierce kennel of crypto bloodhounds' attention, to make it truly worth everybody's headline read, money, politics, talents and teeth? By Tuesday, when Cindy Cohn sticks her head in the beast's mouth.

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Remove me.
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan wrote: >If anyone chooses to try this act of civil disobedience, let me know and >I'll write about it. But be warned: the Department of Commerce has >approximately 60 special agents who enforce violations of export rules. >These are federal police officers, stationed in field office around the >U.S., with badges and arrest power, trained at FLETC in Georgia. They don't >have a sense of humor about these things. Well, yes, that's what BXA flaunts, but I wonder if the encryption regs are a high priority compared to the cases which are actually pursued which deal with truly threatening technology that every congressperson loves to fearfully hate. Yapping Chihuahua crypto is not up there yet, I suspect. True, there's a batch of agents being trained to work specifically on encryption, and with the total of crypto exports now exceeding $half a billion, it may be cost and politically effective to set an example by pounding one or two neo-crypto-Zimmermanns, especially as the year's hearings rumble, troll and slumber. Still, Adam's signature RSA-taunt has been on our Web site for months, terminating each of his exemplary stream of messages on low perfidy in high places, to no effect on BXA's eagle eyeball. Adam's 3-liner was also once part of Peter Junger's legal filings <http://jya.com/pdj4.htm> (DoJ downloaded the evidence) until we were ordered to excise the tiny terrible Perl so that Peter's noble bite of the hand of god would be clearly his stiletto fangs and not confused with Sir Adam Bulldog's ass ripper. Now, Declan, what would a crypto-miscreant need to do to actually get BXA's fierce kennel of crypto bloodhounds' attention, to make it truly worth everybody's headline read, money, politics, talents and teeth? By Tuesday, when Cindy Cohn sticks her head in the beast's mouth.

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In Your EAR...
by Six 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In Your EAR, Shit-For-Brains ---------------------------- In continuation of a tradition begun on Dec. 7, 2041 A.D. EARMonger InterpretPrizes would like to extend an invitation to those who wish to participate in a clear violation of the U.S. EAR regulations of your current time period. The StarShip CowBoy, descended from the lineage of the Author, would be more than happy to ensure that your violation of EAR regulations extends not only across the physical and political geographically-based space continuum, but also across a range of the time continuum which begins before EAR was an unborn seed in the mind of The RAT, continues throughout its journey from the mind, through the digestive system, its physical manifestation as droppings from The RAT, its further evolution through the reproductive systems of various insects and vermin, right up to the time that The RatFucker returned it to its rightful place, placing it back in the mind of The Rat, as a seed placed in The Rat's EAR. "The more things change, the more they remain insane..." ~ The Author To participate, one only need to send the following: print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc` to the Monger of their choice, in any given space-time continuum, with instructions as to where the person would like to have this officially unexportable (under U.S. EAR regulations) cryptographic code forwarded. Whatever legally unexportable code you choose to send will be routed through U.S. servers to their ultimate destination. Two PGP Keys are included below, for those who wish to disguise their original message in order to maintain deniability (in the case that the message is intercepted by the Sixual Deviate, who would undoubtedly insert child-pornography into the message), to force those choosing to monitor and/or enforce EAR regulations to jump through the maximum number of hoops to pursue their March To Madness, or to hide the communication from your mother (who would undoubtedly smack your nasty bottom if she knew what you were doing through your little sister's email account). Suggestions for final destinations for your illegal and prosecutable communication: ~To yourself, at both U.S. and foreign email server sites. ~To your immediate family members at U.S. and foreign email server sites. ~To foreign embassies of U.S. allies. ~To foreign embassies of U.S. enemies. ~To U.S. embassies in foreign countries. ~To foreign government email addresses, with instructions for delivery to individuals presently incarcerated for terrorist crimes. ~To anywhere you damn well please... In the interests of making the whole process as convoluted and ridiculous as possible, it is suggested that you make your communications as much of a mixed-bag as you can imagine. e.g. - Some legal, some illegal, some attributed to yourself or others, some to be forwarded anonymously, some sent via routes that are easily traceable, some sent through routes that are difficult to trace, some sent from your own machines and email accounts, some through the machines and accounts of others (obvious forgeries are welcomed). All communications received by A Monger To Remain Unnamed Later But Everyone Knows Who It Is by April 1, 1998 will be forwarded on A Date Which Will Remain A Mystery , at exactly 9:02 CST, regardless of whether or not they are obviously spook-originated missives designed to provide proof of criminal activity. This once-in-many-lifetimes offer is being extended as part of a Man On The Digital Street survey aimed at answering the question: "Does anyone really know what time it is?" The question you might ask yourself, is: "Does anyone really care?" When you think of 'Chicago'--think of Abbey Hoffman. A. 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(Re: Cypherpunks Crypto_Legal Assistance Fund) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:27:54 GMT From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> To: ravage(a)ssz.com CC: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net, frissell(a)panix.com Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> writes: > Perhaps it's time, in regards testing crypto law, to do exactly what > Tim May proposes - premeditated actions intended to force either a > clear refusal to prosecute on the part of the government or else a > clear abstinance on their part to prosecute. > > It's obvious that no individual has the legal where withal who is > also willing to do this. Some of the people on the list are lawyers, perhaps they could do it and represent themselves, or represent others. Duncan Frissell has some opinions on this I think. If I recall his previous statements on this topic have included that Phil Zimmermann ought to hire a troupe of dancing elephants to make a noise and force the Feds to prosecute. (Duncan considered the Feds would loose). On a practical matter of what to export... may I suggest exporting this: print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc` Peter Junger got an official decision from the US commerce department that this was not exportable under the EAR regulations. Do we have a volunteer? Adam -- Now officially an EAR violation... Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc` Subject: Re: time to export RSA and demand to be prosecuted? (Re: Cypherpunks Crypto_Legal Assistance Fund) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:30:03 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> CC: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net References: 1 , 2 At 21:27 +0000 3/14/98, Adam Back wrote: >Peter Junger got an official decision from the US commerce department >that this was not exportable under the EAR regulations. > >Do we have a volunteer? If anyone chooses to try this act of civil disobedience, let me know and I'll write about it. But be warned: the Department of Commerce has approximately 60 special agents who enforce violations of export rules. These are federal police officers, stationed in field office around the U.S., with badges and arrest power, trained at FLETC in Georgia. They don't have a sense of humor about these things. -Declan FLETC / Georgia Department of Commerce

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A little Paranoid, PUNKS?
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-14 21:03:56 EST, ualdv8(a)sk.sympatico.ca writes: << -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 mQENAzZsmI4AAAEIANHHMhV7V8WqPO6RjjfhZbeY/e6hsjAjKckU7YAYPhHiJfqG xw5+PgVjRPhIpXEE8ksmzZBzyH5KLW5GKFJZoD6YvVUSuzm+Gpxv+G78sBDBljUt BUoaB0XM4HSjEuqZtRtva+l+MAr3tFrK8FSdCsSgjQa8oOT5yFE76hgOGOkXGDKC HAISINKdduNsp4PU6HiNoKMdYpCCvK5u08lQFcByare2yaYmawYLmCzheCWLv9F/ kvnFtXCjup/pQNcOVeb/FkDx42l4vMwiWTH+AvrsjsV1njUIi9DTmcmD4doPlzBS qgbvQiTa16T2E4wJlnmATuW3QdwuBbdT2FSgj3MABRG0F0Vhck1vbmdlciA8ZW1A ZGV2Lm51bGw+iQEVAwUQNmyYjgW3U9hUoI9zAQHjNgf+KIDuWoBvfUj4H1twHvYU +IeDWIApLDnHkR7tsalLi9jY345iAolt3a/CiYxXPtjy9yedSaKoPasuvQk2cZ6e LZZwgEfDYj1GvjLC9D1rSItLLl6aDqYfhN2D2wgnB4mJssx1NP9zLQRf8aJkbDnl BMy3kfTr6ANmwe1hRGFWiuLkhnEtKzc9TFxBtx+4bx66rBBTzSUBfynH35bCLHLw hVzWGc5A0F18LG2WRLbGa/LcEXjp35jHyrJV73t2gUwVjH5qGa0B5O0dpvK9yDR9 wutFrmuhRgfqHO5Tclp470dkQFJv6HHMrSYyjRFFtyC9A+5Fvd1WkW7oLRAUxZmm HQ== =wU9D -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 mQGiBDSLZQsRBADXuA1EJfGhAFVBUP7O6RsBa3EwKKjS19cQlg83nXoo1Pueh4p0 DhD5Mi2V/y4LpWRSRTBpsi54tnC/KQOjze2e6lKS/ERD8R+0umbnqQEiuBamskx/ SsiEWkhHSY2JPxkffPs4IBxCt9IKjCT//iIRIstbwfS0XHkH1s9euuueRwCg/zxp 7ON8OfcMyWWgk/2E2BGC+mUD/RMq7ijYM10gUCn/F5kTZHrDGs9899XTTE1OBd7n FdLesISWPPjyroMTKaa8D6gW6zMpyuA5UMxPVNwoTUzM+N4qh7dzgOL3Zf4WgZoh 6dcdCuZ+fu5Sjni3BgWqnxWweC1+yDcXwp8WD/OcXkGshWr5pdAX2b8tzNw5tHMh dx4RBACEq9R81h8/s0oDuwaRXfyIWLyInGy+QyTdG+UbojFXR3cBMJFy8AVhRXd/ Jqn4JLRSegEZlSaYhjkS8LYrIj2Hxf4Bc/KaAzgl5DYeDsOcRcx6AXAneIr34KAq VNL9H+HyphRbkbWpiBgFT4lDcjbDGZ5pVYEG1gzRG6SmnP4XkbQXRWFyTW9uZ2Vy IDxlbUBkZXYubnVsbD6JAEsEEBECAAsFAjSLZQsECwMBAgAKCRAkfjoNeUg+6vco AKCf9cP91P4G+qSgOTV06ttt13TTPQCcCpNhZ0gpvUeQp/tJ963CH+8oJce5Ag0E NItlCxAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+28W65Szgg2gGnVqMU6Y9AVfPQ B8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZSTz09jdvOmeFXklnN/biudE/F /Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI61Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9WE5J280g tJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/ClWxiNjrtVjLhdONM0/XwXV0Oj HRhs3jMhLLUq/zzhsSlAGBGNfISnCnLWhsQDGcgHKXrKlQzZlp+r0ApQmwJG0wg9 ZqRdQZ+cfL2JSyIZJrqrol7DVekyCzsAAgIIAL0fd6dD7q1m9wDlyMXczadMUJIi N6utCxDkxknURZhiGSBiRRDC1+5gvg1T896UijVN1gGviZs3PHAkwVnbZwM2I6cn 2hSF8MnJMDjI5pxPGCX/ABcUPUUSXOtWOWR/pMpbj4NvV6UClwVtMNK8s1E9B6+u 0is1FHjzQC0jxSbvpHJKuX2iQjkvtO+0BdkxCe7JO3ID5h4bb8W8Tdw4hjsQVeBm b+M8bDqKOxsBMqHp2ydvx/x1qEHhrCxMDPPRSfPHj1MJSTQB1T2Nt0/7yL6D14m6 h1mF3vV3ajsfKEDCRU0pyy7meqkXPABYrnFLLnHUCmtZatOK7q6IBDpPlD+JAEYE GBECAAYFAjSLZQsACgkQJH46DXlIPuopoACfSBsIgXRfMGJ9Tbuj03vHhEj8hRcA nj19dKu1fTDXtbSAJ7sEK+NeRE/t =uqgm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>

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Re: A little Paranoid, PUNKS?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

StanSquncr wrote: > Subject: A little Paranoid, PUNKS? Dimitri? Is that you, Dimitri?

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(no subject)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Information Security wrote: > > > Guy -- > > > First you and Vulis flame each others, and then > > > you start claiming that VZNuri's postings are really Vulis, > > > and now you're claiming that postings from Toto's machines > > > are really Vulis. Perhaps *you're* really Vulis? > > > > Bill Frantz is *really* Vulis. > > Bill Stewart is *really* Toto. > > What are you trying to say? > > A point in every direction is like a point in no direction at all? Sometime ago there was a post to the list which made more sense than all of the other finger-pointing posts, combined, which have proclaimed this-or-that entity to be a tentacle/testicle of one or another of the list members. The post was by someone claiming to be the "only" real member of the cypherpunks list. It told how he had, being a lonely loser whom no one would communicate with, started the cypherpunks mailing list and posted to it under several personas, hoping to generate interest and have other people join the list. It seems that his efforts began to escalate and take on a life of their own, and he eventually had developed all of the personas that currently existed on the list, and that no one else had ever actually joined the list, at all. "In reality, we talk only to ourselves, but sometimes we talk loud enough that others may hear us." Kahil Gibran, The Prophet 2-2

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Re: In Your EAR...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Other possible destinations can be found at: http://cgibin.erols.com/ivsw/presspg1.htm StarShip CowBoy wrote: > Suggestions for final destinations for your illegal and > prosecutable communication: > ~To yourself, at both U.S. and foreign email server sites. > ~To your immediate family members at U.S. and foreign email > server sites. > ~To foreign embassies of U.S. allies. > ~To foreign embassies of U.S. enemies. > ~To U.S. embassies in foreign countries. > ~To foreign government email addresses, with instructions > for delivery to individuals presently incarcerated for > terrorist crimes. > ~To anywhere you damn well please...

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Re: In Your EAR...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Six wrote: > > Suggestions for final destinations for your illegal and > prosecutable communication: Full list at: http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Text/1_denial.txt U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE BUREAU OF EXPORT ADMINISTRATION Table of Denial Orders Currently in Effect (Revised March 6, 1998) TABLE OF DENIAL ORDERS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT (a) Contents This table lists orders that currently deny export privileges in whole or in part. Orders are published in full in the Federal Register as cited in the column entitled, "Federal Register Citation." (2) Publication of orders. New or amended denial orders are published in the Federal Register as they are issued, and their issuance announced in Export Administration Bulletins. Although diligent efforts have been made to ensure the accuracy of the information in this table, the Federal Register is the authoritative source for denial orders. (3) Table: This table is updated as new orders are promulgated and existing orders expire. The table does not appear in the Code of Federal Regulations. Paper copies of this table are available from: Office of Export Services P.O. Box 273 Washington, D.C. 20044 (b) Effect of Denial Orders Section 787.12 of the Export Administration Regulations (15 CFR 787.12) makes it unlawful, without prior specific authorization from Export Administration, for any person to: (1) Apply for, obtain, or use any license, Shipper's Export Declaration, bill of lading, or other export control document relating to an export or reexport of commodities or technical data by, to, or for another person then subject to an order revoking or denying his export privileges or then excluded from practice before the Bureau of Export Administration, or (2) Order, buy, receive, use, sell, deliver, store, dispose of, forward, transport, finance, or otherwise service or participate; (i) in any transaction which may involve any commodity or technical data exported or to be exported from the United States. (ii) in any reexport thereof, or (iii) in any other transaction which is subject to the Export Administration Regulations, if the person denied export privileges may obtain any benefit from or have any interest in, directly or indirectly, any of these transactions. (3) A denial order applies not only to the persons or firms named in the order, but may also, after notice and opportunity for comment, be made applicable to other persons with whom the respondent(s) may then or thereafter be related by ownership, control, position of responsibility, affiliation, or other connection in the conduct of trade or related services. (See Section 788.3(b) of the Export Administration Regulations (15 CRF 788.3(b))). (4) Some denial orders have different restrictions than those noted above. Summaries of the export privileges that each order denies are printed in the column headed "Export Privileges Affected". The exact scope of the denial is set forth in the applicable Federal Register Notice(s). If you have questions about the scope of a particular denial order, you may contact the Office of Enforcement Support, U.S. Department of Commerce, Room 4065, 14th Street and Constitution Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20230, Telephone (202) 482 4255, Fax (202) 482-0971. Federal Name and Address Effective Expiration Export Privileges Register Date Date Affected Citation Abelairas, 6/5/95 6/5/05 General 60 F.R. 31140 Amancio J. and validated a.k.a. Gonzalez, licenses, all Jesus commodities, 6486 S.W. 9th any destination, Miami, Florida also exports 33144 to Canada and d.b.a Estrella Del Caribe Import and Export Inc., 5529 S.W. 9th Street Miami, Florida 33144 Ace, Ian 8/8/97 8/8/17 Standard 62 F.R. 43503 8/14/97 with addresses at 4 Mimosa Way Pinelands South Africa A. Rosenthal (PTY) Ltd. P.O. Box 3721 13 Loop Street Cape Town South Africa and A. Rosenthal (PTY) Ltd. P.O. Box 44198 65 7th Street Denmyr Building 2104 Linden South Africa ADT Analog and 9/10/81 Indefinite General 46 F.R. 46154 Digital Technik, and validated 9/17/81 8019 Niederseeon, licenses, all 46 F.R. 19290 House 21, commodities, 3/30/81 Federal Republic any destination, of Germany also exports to Canada. See: Bruchausen, Werner J. Aeriotechnics 4/11/83 5/31/01 General 47 F.R. 18403 (Pte) Ltd. and validated 4/29/82 and Claypro licenses, all 48 F.R. 16527 (Pte) Ltd. commodities, 4/18/83 Suite 606, any destination, 6th Floor also exports Colombo Court to Canada. and 4E See: Kwik, Richard Dayson Road Singapore Agnese, Andree 7/11/85 Indefinite General 50 F.R. 29244 22 Rue du and validated 7/18/85 11 November 1918 licenses, all Pantin commodities, France any destination, also exports to Canada. See: Agnese, Rodolphe Agnese, Helene 7/11/85 Indefinite General 50 F.R. 29245 37 Rue de and validated 7/18/85 la Quintinie licenses, all Paris 75015 commodities, France any destination, also exports to Canada. See: Agnese, Rodolphe Agnese, Rodolphe 3/15/90 3/15/00 General 55 F.R. 10641 individually and and validated 3/22/90 d/b/a Development licenses, all Engineering commodities, and Electronics any destination, 37 Rue de also exports la Quintinie to Canada. 75010 Paris France Agnese, Saba 7/11/85 Indefinite General 50 F.R. 29244 a/k/a Saba Ambaye and validated 7/18/85 37 Rue de licenses, all la Quintinie commodities, Paris 75015 any destination, France also exports to Canada. See: Agnese, Rodolphe Alex Goh 9/10/93 9/10/13 See: Goh, 58 F.R. 48821 Sian Lake 9/20/93 Ali Reza 11/9/93 7/26/99 General 58 F.R. 60842 Foyuzi Yousefi and validated 11/18/93 P.O. Box 1341 licenses, all and commodities, 38 Firouzkh any destination, Tajresh, also exports Tehran, Iran to Canada. Alkadi, Essam 2/20/98 2/20/01 Standard 63 F.R. 10188 P.O. Box 201 3/4/98 Dammam 31411 Saudi Arabia Al-Kadi. Essam 2/20/98 2/20/01 Standard 63 F.R. 10188 P.O. Box 201 3/4/98 Dammam 31411 Saudi Arabia Almori, Robert 10/8/87 Indefinite General 52 F.R. 38495 80-82 Rue and validated 10/16/87 Saint Dominique licenses, all Paris 7, France commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada. Ambaye, Saba 7/11/85 Indefinite General 50 F.R. 29244 a/k/a Saba Agnese and validated 7/18/85 37 Rue de licenses, all la Quintinie commodities, Paris 75015, any destination, France also exports to Canada. See: Agnese, Rodolphe American 4/23/90 4/23/05 See: Tai, 55 F.R. 18147 Semiconductor, Philip T.J. 5/1/90 Inc. Los Gatos, California American 6/26/95 6/26/05 General 60 F.R. 34504 Technology Trading and validated 7/3/95 Group licenses, all 44 Montgomery St. commodities, Suite 500 any destination, San Francisco, also exports California 94104 to Canada. Amiri, Reza 9/25/93 9/25/13 General 56 F.R. 58552 Panjtan and validated 11/20/91 and a/k/a licenses, all 57 F.R. 21057 Amiri, Ray commodities, 5/18/92 and individually any destination, 57 F.R. 24242 with an address also exports 6/8/92 and at: to Canada. 57 F.R. 57155 13165 12/3/92 and E. Essex Dr. 58 F.R. 31361 Cerritos, 6/2/93 and California 58 F.R. 51610 and d/b/a 10/4/93 Ray Amiri 60 F.R. 8221 Computer 2/13/95 Consultants now a/k/a CCC Inc. with addresses at: and Heinrichstrasse 9-11 D-6000 Frankfurt 1, Germany and c/o Pars Hafezeh Mirdamad Avenue, Mohsseni Square, Farnaz Street Tehran, Iran Annexfield, Ltd. 12/14/84 Indefinite General 49 F.R. 49666 152 Budbrooke Rd. and validated 12/21/84 Warwick, licenses, all United Kingdom commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada See: O'Hara, Daniel J. Appelberg 6/19/89 6/19/04 See: Appelberg, 54 F.R. 26816 Financial Lennart 6/26/89 Services Saltajobaden, Sweden Appelberg, 6/19/89 6/19/04 General 54 F.R. 26816 Lennart (Lennert) and validated 6/26/89 individually licenses, all and d/b/a commodities, Appelberg any destination, Financial also exports Services to Canada. Filip Manssonsvag 1, S-13300 Saltajobaden, Sweden Applied Systems 12/14/84 Indefinite General 49 F.R. 49666 Methods and validated 12/21/84 and Technology licenses, all (ASMAT) commodities, Rochford, Essex any destination, United Kingdom also exports to Canada. See: O'Hara, Daniel J. ATC Lab 12/5/89 12/5/99 See: Schmidt, 54 F.R. 51048 Electronic A.S.S. 12/12/89 Service, Segelflygsgatan 35, 122 52 Enskede, Sweden Attia, Ben H. 10/30/97 10/30/12 Standard aka Attia, Adnan 1614 Nine Island Boulevard Miami Beach, FL 33134 dba General Polyphase, Inc. 15 rue de Kamel Attaturk 1001 Tunis, Tunisia Avomair Ltd. 12/14/84 Indefinite General 49 F.R. 49666 a/k/a and validated 12/21/84 Microcircuit licenses, all Technology commodities, 3 Featherby Way any destination, Purdey's also exports Industrial to Canada. Estate See: O'Hara, Rochford, Daniel J. Essex, United Kingdom Barbarits, Bruno 5/3/88 5/3/08 General 53 F.R. 16441 individually and validated 5/9/88 and d/b/a licenses, all Cosmotrans AG commodities, a/k/a any destination, Cosmotrans Ltd. also exports P.O. Box 30978 to Canada Fracht West See: Wirth, Hans Building Office 274 CH 8058 Zurich, Switzerland and Cosmotrans USA, Inc. JFK International Airport Jamaica, New York Behrmann, 1/23/92 5/10/00 General 57 F.R. 3613 Symone Morris and validated 1/30/92 11 Goldfinch Ct., licenses, all #505 commodities, Toronto, Canada any destination, also exports to Canada. Belgium 3/5/91 3/5/01 See: Sanders, 56 F.R. 10537 Trading Marcel 3/13/91 Company Lokeren S.A. Sijpstratt 6 9101 Lokeren, Belgium Berg, H. Leonard 5/12/94 1/29/02 General 59 F.R. 27531 750 Kappock Street and validated 5/27/94 Apartment 103 licenses, all Bronx, New York commodities, and any destination, at the time the also exports order was issued to Canada incarcerated at: U.S. Bureau of Prisons Low Security Correctional Institution-Allenwood White Deer, Pennsylvania Beta Computer 6/13/95 6/13/05 General 60 F.R. 32300 Trading Pte. and validated 6/21/95 Limited licenses, all One Rockor Canal commodities, Road any destination, Sim Lin Square also exports # 06-67 to Canada Singapore, 0718 (See Waldemar, Znamierowski and Prandecki, Paul Bin Wu 9/7/93 9/7/03 See: Wu, Bin 59 F.R. 47302 Virginia Beach, 9/15/94 Virginia Bose, Sidhartha 6/16/95 6/16/05 General 60 F.R. 32940 a/k/a/ Dr. Bose and validated 6/26/95 individually and licenses, all d.b.a. commodities, Perfect Technologies, any destination, LTD. also exports 212 Golders to Canada Green Road London, NW11 9BY England and Ragunathan, Thirunavkkarasu individually and d.b.a. W.K. Agencies and as Computer Focus Services PTE. LTD. with an address at 18 Jalan Kechil, #06-22 Eastern Mansion Singapore 1543 Bose, Dr. 6/16/95 6/16/05 See Bose, Sidhartha 60 F.R. 32940 6/26/95 Brandstetter, Herbert 6/15/87 6/15/07 General 52 F.R. 23325 c/o Scan Trade and validated 6/19/87 Handelsgesellschaft licenses, all m.b.H. commodities, Wiednerhauptstrasse 135 any destination, A-1050 Vienna, also exports Austria to Canada. Brero, Mario 6/26/95 6/26/00 General 60 F.R. 34505 Apt. 87 and validated 7/3/95 Route de Bougy 1170 licenses, all Aubonne, Vaud commodities, Switzerland any destination, also exports to Canada. Brownhill, David 9/11/95 10/6/03 General 60 F.R. 48961 13 Robin Road and validated 9/21/95 Northcliff Ext. 12 licenses, all Johannesburg, South Africa commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada. Bruchhausen, 3/24/81 Indefinite General 46 F.R. 19290 Werner J. and validated 3/30/81 D8019 Niederseeon licenses, all Federal Republic commodities, of Germany any destination, also exports to Canada. Burger, Peter 3/25/93 3/25/13 General 58 F.R. 18368 individually and and validated 4/9/93 as agent for licenses, all Helling KG commodities, 54 Sylvesteralle any destination, 22000 also exports Hamburg 54, to Canada. Germany and Int'l. Business Connections 11 rue Aldringen 1-2960 Luxembourg, Luxembourg Butcher, Brian A. 3/21/86 3/21/06 General 51 F.R. 10418 a/k/a and validated 3/26/86 Brian A. licenses, all Moller-Butcher commodities, c/o Contel Equipment any destination, 5 Bear Court also exports Danshill East to Canada. Industrial Estate See: M.E.S. Basingstroke, Equipment, Inc. Hampshire England Caesar 12/19/90 12/19/05 General 55 F.R. 53016 Electronics, Inc. and validated 12/26/90 40C, Corbin Avenue licenses, all Bayshore, New York commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada CAE Services 5/29/91 5/29/11 General 56 F.R. 25654 Lowengasse 2A and validated 6/5/91 A-1030 Vienna, licenses, all Austria commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada. See: Kovar, Alexander Callaghan, 1/23/92 7/20/00 General 57 F.R. 3614 Maryanne E. and validated 1/30/92 39 Congress St. licenses, all Warwick, Rhode Island commodities, any destination, also exports to Canada. Carlson, Paul C. 3/5/85 3/5/00 General 50 F.R. 9699 P.O. Box 3125 and validated 3/11/85 Brockton, licenses, all 50 F.R. 18281 Massachusetts commodities, 4/30/85 and any destination, 87 Springhill Avenue also exports Bridgewater, to Canada. Massachusetts See: Contel Equipment CCC Inc. 9/25/93 9/25/13 See: Amiri, Reza 57 F.R. 57155 Frankfurt, Germany 12/3/92 and c/o Pars 58 F.R. 31361 Hafezeh 6/2/93 and Tehran, Iran 58 F.R. 51610 10/4/93 and 60 F.R. 8221 2/13/95 Chan, Anthony 12/6/84 Indefinite General 49 F.R. 48591 a/k/a and validated 12/13/84 Chan Sum-Tai Anthony licenses, all c/o Shuttle commodities, Long Co., Ltd. any destination, Ka Wah Bank also exports Center Building to Canada. 19th Floor See: Wysh Data 232 Des Voeux Road Systems, Ltd. Hong Kong Central Chan Sum-Tai Anthony 12/6/84 Indefinite See: Wysh Data 49 F.R. 48591 a/k/a Systems, Ltd. 12/13/84 Anthony Chan c/o Shuttle Long Co. Ltd. Ka Wah Bank Center Building 19th Floor 235 Des Voeux Road Hong Kong Central Chemco 8/7/89 8/26/98 See: Walaschek, 54 F.R. 8582 Seigburger Peter; 3/1/89 Strasse 223 Colimex; 54 F.R. 33253 5000 Cologne 21, Far-Trade 8/14/89 and Federal Republic Pharma- 56 F.R. 57875 of Germany Vertrieb 11/14/91 GmbH Chua Tok Peng 9/10/93 9/10/13 See: Tok Peng 58 F.R. 48821 Chua 9/20/93

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Re: (no subject)
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-14 23:01:01 EST, nobody(a)REPLAY.COM writes: << Sometime ago there was a post to the list which made more sense than all of the other finger-pointing posts, combined, which have proclaimed this-or-that entity to be a tentacle/testicle of one or another of the list members. The post was by someone claiming to be the "only" real member of the cypherpunks list. >> Who was it, a "nobody?" :-)

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Read about a REAL "Punk!"
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Absolute Proof - Rush is a Liar! First let's define 'liar' (from pages 670-671 of 'Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th Edition') "Liar - one that tells lies" That was easy, now it's a little more confusing, because of the number of definitions (4). The first two I will leave out, as they pertain to how you might 'lie' down, or where a golf ball may 'lie'. The 3rd is the verb, and is inapplicable. I will use the 4th definition, the noun. (4) "Lie (noun)- 1: a: an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive b: an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker 2: something that misleads or deceives 3: a charge of lying" By combining the two definitions, (4:1:a) 'Liar - one that tells assertions of somethings known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive' (4:1:b) 'Liar - one that tells untrue or inaccurate statements that may or may not be believed true by the speaker' (4:2) 'Liar - one that tells somethings that mislead or deceive' (4:3) 'Liar - one that tells charges of lying' I think that regular readers will now concede that subsense (4:1:b) proves that his many 'errors' can be classified as lies, and (4:2) certainly fits Rush! But for the sake of proof, I will now document more than one lie, with complete disreguard as to whether Rush knew they were lies at the time he said them, to prove it by subsense (4:1:b). These examples from FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting). Please e-mail FAIR (at fair-report(a)fair.org - it will be returned via e-mail) for the complete FAIR report on Rush Limbaugh, so you can see how Limbaugh responds to FAIR's reports of his lies (Limbaugh's so-called response (that he lauded so loudly (at the time)) is included also, as well as FAIR's counter-response). LIMBAUGH: On California contractor C.C. Myers completing repairs 74 days early on the earthquake-damaged Santa Monica Freeway: "There was one key element that made this happen. One key thing: The governor of California declared the [freeway] a disaster area and by so doing eliminated the need for competitive bids.... Government got the hell out of the way." (TV show, 4/13/94) "They gave this guy [Myers] the job without having to go through the rigmarole...of giving 25 percent of the job to a minority-owned business and 25 percent to a woman." (TV show, 4/15/94) REALITY: There was competitive bidding: Myers beat four other contractors for the job. Affirmative action rules applied: At least 40 percent of the subcontracts went to minority or women-owned firms. Far from getting out of the way, dozens of state employees were on the job 24 hours a day. Furthermore, the federal government picked up the tab for the whole job (L.A. Times, 5/1/94). LIMBAUGH: "There's no such thing as an implied contract." (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Spring/93) REALITY: Every first year law student knows there is. LIMBAUGH: "Ladies and gentlemen, we now know why there is this institutional opposition to low tax rates in the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. It's because [low tax rates] are biblical in nature and in root. When you can trace the lowering of tax rates on grain from 90 percent to 20 percent giving seven fat years during the days of Pharaoh in Egypt, why then you are tracing the roots of lower taxes and rising prosperity to religion.... You can trace individual prosperity, economic growth back to the Bible, the Old Testament. Isn't it amazing?" (Radio show, 6/28/93) REALITY: Amazingly wrong. Genesis 41 is about the wisdom of INSTITUTING taxes, not cutting them. After Pharaoh had a dream that prophesied seven fat years to be followed by seven lean years, Joseph advised him to "appoint officers over the land, and take up the fifth part of the land of Egypt in the seven plenteous years...and lay up corn under the hands of Pharaoh." In other words, a 20 percent tax on the grain harvest would put aside food for use during the famine. Pharaoh took Joseph's advice, and Egypt avoided hunger during the famine. LIMBAUGH: "It has not been proven that nicotine is addictive, the same with cigarettes causing emphysema [and other diseases]." (Radio show, 4/29/94) REALITY: Nicotine's addictiveness has been reported in medical literature since the turn of the century. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop's 1988 report on nicotine addiction left no doubts on the subject; "Today the scientific base linking smoking to a number of chronic diseases is overwhelming, with a total of 50,000 studies from dozens of countries," states Encyclopedia Britannica's 1987 "Medical and Health Annual." LIMBAUGH: "Most Canadian physicians who are themselves in need of surgery, for example, scurry across the border to get it done right: the American way. They have found, through experience, that state medical care is too expensive..." (Told You So, p. 153) REALITY: "Mr. Limbaugh's claim simply isn't true," says Dr. Hugh Scully, chair of the Canadian Medical Association's Council on Healing & Finance. "The vast majority of Canadians, including physicians, receive their care here in Canada. Those few Canadians who receive health care in the U.S. most often do because they have winter homes in the States--like Arizona and Florida -- and have emergent health problems there." Medical care in Canada is hardly "too expensive"; it's provided free and covered by taxes. LIMBAUGH: "There are more American Indians alive today than there were when Columbus arrived or at any other time in history. Does this sound like a record of genocide?" (Told You So, p. 68) REALITY: According to Carl Shaw of the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs, estimates of the pre-Columbus population of what later became the United States range from 5 million to 15 million. Native populations in the late 19th century fell to 250,000, due in part to genocidal policies. Today the U.S.'s Native American population is about 2 million. LIMBAUGH: "Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along." (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Summer/93) REALITY: Before feminism, women couldn't even vote. LIMBAUGH: "Anita Hill followed Clarence Thomas everywhere. Wherever he went, she wanted to be right by his side, she wanted to work with him, she wanted to continue to date him.... There were no other accusers who came forth after Anita Hill did and said, 'Yeah, Clarence Thomas, he harassed me, too.' There was none of that." (TV show, 5/4/94) REALITY: Hill could not have continued to date Thomas, since they never dated. Two other women, Sukari Hardnett and Angela Wright, came forth in the Thomas case with similar charges. LIMBAUGH: On Whitewater: "I don't think the New York Times has run a story on this yet. I mean, we haven't done a thorough search, but I--there has not been a big one, front-page story, about this one that we can recall. So this has yet to create or get up to its full speed--if it weren't for us and the Wall Street Journal and the American Spectator, this would be one of the biggest and most well kept secrets going on in American politics today." (TV show, 2/17/94) REALITY: The New York Times BROKE the Whitewater story on March 8, 1992, in a front-page story by Jeff Gerth that included much of the key information known today. The investigative article ran over 1700 words. LIMBAUGH: Quotes President James Madison: "We have staked the future...upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." (Told You So, p. 73) REALITY: "We didn't find anything in our files remotely like the sentiment expressed in the extract you sent to us," David B. Mattern, the associate editor of The Madison Papers, told the Kansas City Star (1/16/94). "In addition, the idea is entirely inconsistent with everything we know about Madison's views on religion and government." LIMBAUGH: "And it was only 4,000 votes that--had they gone another way in Chicago--Richard Nixon would have been elected in 1960." (TV show, 4/28/94) REALITY: Kennedy won the 1960 election with 303 electoral votes to 219 for Nixon. Without Illinois' 27 electoral votes, Kennedy would still have won, 276-246. LIMBAUGH: On Iran-contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh: "This Walsh story basically is, we just spent seven years and $40 million looking for any criminal activity on the part of anybody in the Reagan administration, and guess what? We couldn't find any. These guys didn't do anything, but we wish they had so that we could nail them. So instead, we're just going to say, 'Gosh, these are rotten guys.' They have absolutely no evidence. There is not one indictment. There is not one charge." (TV show, 1/19/94) REALITY: Walsh won indictments against 14 people in connection with the Iran- contra scandal including leading Reagan administration officials like former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and former national security advisers Robert McFarlane and John Poindexter. Of the 14, 11 were convicted or pleaded guilty. (Two convictions were later overturned on technicalities--including that of occasional Limbaugh substitute Oliver North) LIMBAUGH: Explaining why the Democrats wanted to "sabotage" President Bush with the 1990 budget deal: "Now, here is my point. In 1990, George Bush was president and was enjoying a 90 percent plus approval rating on the strength of our victories in the Persian Gulf War and Cold War." (Told You So, p. 304) REALITY: In October 1990, when the budget deal was concluded the Gulf War had not yet been fought. LIMBAUGH: On the Gulf War: "Everybody in the world was aligned with the United States except who? The United States Congress." (TV show, 4/18/94) REALITY: Both houses of Congress voted to authorize the U.S. to use force against Iraq. LIMBAUGH: On Bosnia: "For the first time in military history, U.S. military personnel are not under the command of United States generals." (TV show, 4/18/94) REALITY: That's news to the Pentagon. "How far back do you want to go?" asked Commander Joe Gradisher, a Pentagon spokesperson. "Americans served under Lafayette in the Revolutionary war." Gradisher pointed out several famous foreign commanders of U.S. troops, including France's Marshall Foch, in overall command of U.S. troops in World War 1. In World War 2, Britain's General Montgomery led U.S. troops in Europe and North Africa, while another British General, Lord Mountbatten, commanded the China-Burma-India theatre. LIMBAUGH: Limbaugh frequently denies that he uses his show for political activism: "I have yet to encourage you people or urge you to call anybody. I don't do it. They think I'm the one doing it. That's fine. You don't need to be told when to call. They think you are a bunch of lemmings out there." (Radio show, 6/28/93) REALITY: Just an hour after making the above claim, he was--as usual--sending his troops to the trenches: "The people in the states where these Democratic senators are up for reelection in '94 have to let their feelings be known.... These senators, you let them know. I think Wisconsin's one state. Let's say Herb Kohl is up in '94. You people in Wisconsin who don't like this bill, who don't like the tax increases, you let Herb Kohl know somehow." And in summation, Rush is a liar (proven by (4:1:b), 'Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th Edition", page 670-671)! Readers should judge on their own, whether you think this proves that Rush knew about these lies in advance and/or had an intent to deceive when he told these lies (as it's impossible to prove ones state of mind). I believe he did (on both accounts), so therefore I believe there's ample evidence to show Rush a liar by subsense 4:1:a, and 4:2 also! Readers should also judge whether they think that (many of) his lies are attempts at changing history. Stanley Rosenthal

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And ANOTHER REAL "Punk!" (or two)
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subj: TAKE STOCK(man, Please!)! Date: 06/19/96 I start with Article 6, section 3 of the Constitution of the United States of America - "3 The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." And now, from the *real* "liberal" media, the Houston Press, June - 13-19 - 1996 issue - -------------------------- (TOC description - Stalking Stockman - Truth was the first casualty when I visited Steve Stockman's combined home and political sweatshop. By Tim Fleck) {Quote - "We're not afraid of anything." - An unidentified whiny-voiced Stockmanite. Photos - a picture of the headline of an article in the Houston Chronicle of 6-7-96 - "CHARGES SOUGHT AGAINST REPORTER Trespassing Alleged At Stockman's House", a picture of Tim Fleck walking up to Stockman's house, caption - "Knock, knock, who's there? Fleck cautiously approaches the threshhold of the Stockman compound.", and a picture of a sign that says "God Bless You! Congressman Stockman") INTO THE DEN OF STOCKMANIA The Truth About My Alleged "Invasion" Of The Friendswood Congressman's One- Stop Political Sweatshop And Homestead By Tim Fleck For just a moment, it seemed as if there might be at least one good man laboring at Congressman Steve Stockman's political sweatshop-cum-residence when I dropped in last week for an unannounced visit. Several raps on the front door had summoned a lanky young African-American volunteer named Booker T. Stallworth. Despite being confronted by a stranger with a press I.D. card clipped to his shirt pocket and a bulky Sony tape recorder and microphone slung over his shoulder, Stallworth flashed an all-American smile and graciously motioned me in. Judging by the fallout generated by those two or three steps forward, I might just as well have landed on the front lawn of Stockman's Friendswood home in a black helicopter. Once inside, my rather limited tour of the Stockman compound lasted about two minutes before I was ordered out by an officious young Stockmanite who refused to identify himself and displayed a distinct aversion to cameras. No physical contact, shouting or foul language occurred during the brief encounter. Yet within two hours of my visit, Stockman's Capitol Hill office began spewing press releases at taxpayers' expense that accused me of trespassing and forcing my way into the congressman's residence and physically assaulting his campaign workers. "This is outrageous!" Stockman was quoted as huffing in one "updated" release (headlined "Stockman Stalked by Trespassing Reporter"). "I have called the Harris County Sheriff's Department, the Capitol Hill police and the [U.S. House] Sergeant-at-Arms' office. I am pressing charges for trespass and assault and battery." Stockman's office even suggested that I had terrorized the congressman's wife, Patti Bullock Stockman, assuring the world that she "was unharmed" after my visit. That insinuation was especially outlandish, given that I never laid eyes on Patti Stockman (who, incidentally, has a $58,000-a-year job at the Johnson Space Center that presumably would have required her presence on that weekday afternoon). Stockman himself hastily caught a plane back from D.C. "to address the emergency," according to his congressional flack Cory Birenbaum, and while in flight called a talk-radio station in Beaumont to beat the drums about the alleged home invasion. Birenbaum told another reporter that Stockman already had complained to Friendswood police, one of whom, the spokesman related, declared that he "would have shot the son of a bitch dead." But the chief of the Friendswood force told another local reporter that his department hadn't heard from Stockman. The Stockman press releases alerted area media outlets, whose reporters were soon sorting through the lies produced by the Stockman propaganda machine and writing their own stories about the incident. Birenbaum tried to peddle one whopper that I had crashed the Stockman-Newt Gingrich rally at a Galleria-area (StanNote! outside of Stockman's district) hotel last month by falsely claiming to be a reporter with the Associated Press. The only problem with that was that the A.P. reporter and I had both bantered with Birenbaum at the event, and clearly identified ourselves to him. I had received a press credential to the rally after displaying my Houston police press I.D., which bears the name *Houston Press* in large, hard-to-miss letters. The lies continued later, when volunteer Stallworth filed a complaint with the Harris County Sheriff's Department falsely claiming that I had pushed him and shouted and screamed during my visit. (The recording I made of the incident shows the conversation never broke a sonic sweat.) The sheriff's department punted the complaint to the district attorney's office, where Johnny Holmes' top assistant, Don Sticklin, was investigating at press time. In retrospect, Stallworth's dissembling probably explains what a seemingly nice guy like him was doing hanging with the Stockman gang. By inviting me into Stockman's political nest, though, Stallworth did prove that he hadn't absorbed a central tenet of the political consulting business. Photographer Nicole Fruge' and I drove to Friendswood to do some on-the-scene investigation of Political Won Stop, a business registered in Brazoria County that operates out of Stockman's residence and has received $126,000 in payments from the congressman's campaign since January. One of the listed principals of the firm, Chris Cupit, just happens to be the Republican nominee for tax assessor-collector of Jefferson County, a position that has been vacated by Democrat Nick Lampson, who is now running for Congress against Stockman. Cupit apparently has no official campaign office of his own in Jefferson County, raising questions about whether resources from his and Stockman's campaigns are being comingled in the rather cozy spaces of the Whitman Way residence. That would be a violation of federal election law. And *The Hill*, a D.C. based weekly that covers Congress and first reported on the Political Won Stop operation, has questioned whether Stockman's campaign keeps the appropriately legal "arms-length" distance from the consultants, whose phone number is the same as Stockman's and who presumably use the facilities available to others in the Stockman household. *Press* calls to the house and Cupit and partner Jason Posey (who had identified himself as a Stockman "volunteer" to *The Hill*) went unreturned, so the only option seemed to be an on-site inspection. After I followed Stallworth into the living room of the Stockman domicile, I met several volunteers who claimed Cupit was not there. But the 1995 Saturn that was reposing in Stockman's driveway at the time is registered to Cupit. The front of the intensely claustrophobic house, where windows might otherwise be found, is sealed by planking, and the only vista to the street is a pinhole in the worn wooden front door. It hardly seems a residence fitting for a U.S. congressman, even one whose employment history prior to his 1994 election was rather spotty. The living room, cluttered with campaign signs and literature, opens on the right into a garage office, where Political Won Stop apparently does its work. A hallway on the left presumably leads to some sort of sleeping quarters, where Patti may or may not have been crouching in fear while I was in the front room. Upon my entry, Stallworth summoned a dark-haired young man from the garage office, who proved far less friendly. "You'll have to leave," he announced in a rather whiny, nasal voice. (The following day, the *Press* called Chris Cupit at his home in Groves and discovered that he possess a whiny, nasal voice identical to that of the man who ordered me out of Stockman's residence. But perhaps everybody who works for Stevie whines. On the phone, Cupit flatly denied being present at Stockman's house during my visit. Before we could ask what his car was doing in Stockman's Driveway, Dupit said he had to go but promised to call us back shortly. He never did, of course.) At the Stockman compound, the Cupit sound-alike denied that Political Won Stop operated out of the house, but tried to change the subject when I reminded him that Stockman's own campaign finance filings list the company as based there. "I know, but we have rights, too, and you've got to honor our rights," he whined. He seemed especially terrified that photographer Fruge', who was just outside the front door with her camera, might get a shot of his face. He tried to close the front door, and another volunteer then slammed it shut and pressed his back against it, barring any exit. I asked the head whiner what he was so afraid of. "We're not afraid of anything," he insisted, rather unconvincingly. After being ordered once more to leave, I replied, Well, fine, open the door. And don't hide too much. You guys are pathetic." And with that, my alleged "invasion" of the congressman's castle was over. Minutes later, several young Stockman volunteers drove up, and I asked them to locate Chris Cupit for me. Once inside the house, they didn't come back out before Fruge' and I departed. Fruge' took a few more shots of Fort Stockman from the street while I went to interview neighbors. Birenbaum would later claim she took photos through the windows of the Stockman abode. The problem with that particular lie is that there are no windows accessible from the front yard to take photos through. A woman who lives next door to Stockman seemed surprised to learn that the bustling political office also housed a U.S. Congresseman and his wife. "No, I do not know him," said Hanan Zadeh, when asked if she had had the pleasure of meeting Steve Stockman. Zadeh - who, unlike the boys next door, did not hesitate to identify herself - seemed unperturbed by the continuous stream of people coursing in and out of Stockman's alleged residence. "We know this is just temporary for election time," she explained. "It's not a problem." But depending on how the money paid by Stockman to Political Won Stop is actually used, it could be a big problem for the Freshman Prince of Friendswood in the not-so-distant future. -------------- "We're not afraid of anything." They certainly aren't afraid of *god*! Stan ============ Subj: It's Cupit, Ma'am, Not Stupid! Date: 07/21/96 More from the "Liberal Media", from the 'Houston Press' June 20-26, 1996 these are pieces of - --------------------- The Insider - compiled by Tim Fleck TALES OF CUPIT (RHYMES WITH STUPID) The squirrelly adventures of Congressman Steve Stockman's frat-house band of consultants who call themselves Political Won Stop seem to know no limits. *The Hill*, a Congress-covering weekly in the nation's capital, first revealed that Stockman's re-election campaign had paid more than $126,000 to the consultancy, which is owned by 26-year-old Chris Cupit and 25-year old Jason Posey and is listed on the congressman's campaign disclosures as having the same Whitman Way address as stockman's combination home and election headquarters just outside Friendswood. More recently, *The Hill* reproted that the address Political Won Stop used on its DBA filing in Brazoria County is a rental beach house at Surfside. Always up for a summer jaunt to the Gulf, The Insider motored down to Surfside over the weekend to discover that the rent house, which is named the Hide-a-Way and sits just down the road from the Money Pit, was vacent. On our return, we talked to the owner of the Hide-a-Way, Houstonian Diane Hensley, who rented the house in the off-season to Cupit from last fall to early spring. Hensley, a Stockman supporter and unsuccessful legislative candidate this year, says she's known Cupit for two years and isn't surprised he listed the home as his place of business. The Hide-a-Way certainly is an appropriately named location for a business run by the secrecy-obsessed Cupit, the Stockman operative and GOP nominee for Jefferson County tax collector-assessor whom we encountered on our unannounced visit to Stockman's home/campaign office two weeks ago. Cupit refused to identify himself and hid his face when a *Press* photographer approached. It's apparently typical behavior from Cupit, judging by the account of an advertising sales type who tried to sell the Stockman campaign some bumper stickers two days before we ventured into the grip of Stockmania. The salesman says he contacted the Stockman headquarters "and got ahold of a man who wouldn't identify himself except by his first name, Chris." It took the salesman two weeks to get an appointment with the mysterious Chris, and only under circumstances that seem lifted from a spy novel. "He would not give me the address of his headquarters," recounts the salesman, "and he asked if I would meet him on the parking lot of the Burger King in Baybrook Mall." (Stockman's home/office is located in a subdivision behind the mall.) When the salesman finally rendezvoused with "Chris," the Stockman flunky again refused to give his last name but expressed interest in the batch of see-through, peel-off "Stockman for Congress" stickers the salesman had brought along to demonstrate. Chris refused to allow the salesman to put one of the stickers on his car and instead insisted they be handed over for future inspection, presumably by the congressman. At one point, Chris displayed a trace of envy by allowing that he wished he could afford the see-through numbers for his own campaign. The salesman is still chuckling over the encounter. "I'm in my early seventies, and I've done business in Houston for over 35 years. It's the first time I ever made a sales pitch on the parking lot of a Burger King!" (He was later shown a photo of Chris Cupit and positively identified the stealth candidate as the phantom of the Burger King.) Their meeting was two weeks ago, and now the salesman can't get through to Chris. "The guy who answers the phone, who's a nitwit, says, 'What is this regarding?' Then he says, 'I don't know if he's here.' I say, 'Come on, kid, you're in a house and you don't know who comes through the front door?' " Cupit also hasn't acquired much name identification in Beaumont, the seat of the county where he wants to be the head tax collector. When The Insider went on a Beaumont call-in show last week to debunk the false claims by Stockman that we had assaulted his campaign workers and terrorized his wife, the radio host, Jack Piper, was unfamiliar with Cupit and his candidacy. During Piper's show, we played an audio tape of our encounter with the Stockmanites at the congressman's home, wheich included our repeated question, "Is Chris Cupit here?" Afterward, a hard-of-hearing pro-Stockman caller rang up to chastise the liberal media for "calling people stupid." Why, she asked, did we have to call them stupid? Piper had to gently correct her: "It's Cupit, ma'am, not stupid." ========== Subj: Fleck Gets an 'E' (of the 'RWLTPC') (one whos job it is to destroy anyone or anything that goes against the 'RWLTPC') ! ----- >From the Houston Press, July 4-10 issue, Letters section - ----- The Stockman Welcome Mat Having read the latest in your series of articles and "exposes" on Congressman Steve Stockman, I have a few questions and observations for you: Do you expect Stockman or his staff to welcome you into his home with open arms when everything you've ever written about him has been decidedly negative? Your stories and the tone of your paper are antything but objective. You can't abide or report objectively on anything or anyone who is Republican, nor can you ever report anything unfavorable on a Democrat. You went to Stockman's place with your mind made up as to what you were going to write. You refer to all his staffers as whiny. To me, you are the ultimate whiner. Jerry King Houston ========== Subj: More 'Take Stock(man), PLEASE!' >From the Houston Chronicle, 7-21-96 - ------ STOCKMAN MOURNS DEATH OF 'SUPPORTER' Alan Bernstein, Politics U.S. Rep. Steve Stockman of Friendswood did not immediately try to put a self- serving political spin on last week's TWA jetliner tragedy. He waited almost two days. On Friday afternoon, reporters received a news release on Stockman's congressional stationery. It expresses the congressman's deep sorrow that Houston victim's rights advocate Pam Lychner was killed in the explosion and crash off Long Island. The document, an official communication from Stockman's publicly funded operation in Washington, D.C., was headlined "STOCKMAN SUPPORTER DIES IN TWA TRAGEDY/ VICTIMS' ADVOCATE MADE TV AD FOR STOCKMAN." With direct quotes from Stockman, the news release lauded Lychner for her criminal justice reform work. "Pam was a friend who will be dearly missed by my wife Patti and I," said Stockman's written words. "Pam Lychner did a campaign television ad for me in 1992. I got to know her and her story. She was a woman of uncommon courage and inner strength and that is how I will remember her." Stockman's top aide, Cory Birenbaum, said the news release was not a political exploitation of a grim event. "We are just trying to point things out that affect" the congressman, Birenbaum explained. "It's simply to regret the fact that a personal friend of his passed away." To say the least, written statements from Stockman and Birenbaum have been controversial lately. In June, another official news release from Stockman carried the headline "STOCKMAN STALKED BY TRESPASSING REPORTER." It told Stockman's version of a visit to his home and campaign headquarters in Friendswood by a reporter for the Houston Press, at a time when Stockman was in Washington. Stockman sought criminal charges against the reporter. The district attorney's office refused to file the charges. The reporter then filed a libel suit against Stockman. Birenbaum was the focus of national publicity recently for a private letter he wrote to a Texas Monthly reporter after the magazine ran an unflattering profile of Stockman. The letter said the writer got her magazine job "for reasons I would refuse to speculate upon in polite society. Hope your knees have healed up nicely." Birenbaum said he meant that the writer had to beg for employment, not that she performed a sex act. ...

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RE: get me off/ME TOO!
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dumbass, if you didn't have the brain cells to understand what this list is about, don't play with your mommy's computer and e-mail account. Open a dos prompt and type "FDISK/U" and all your troubles will be over. (what a fucked up band name) [SNIP] >Me too. Take me off of your stinkin' list. > >Stan and the Sequencers >

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Re: New Website is up!!
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Considering the one-line content of the Web page, this appears to have been a troll, perhaps aimed at gathering an instant snapshot database of IP addresses/domains/reverse lookups of people with an interest in crypto. Don't go there. 'Scuse me, someone's knocking at my door... NO CARRIER ----- Original Message ----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com, cryptography(a)c2.net Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:17:45 -0700 From: "Jared" <cutey-jared(a)mailcity.com> Copies to: cypherpunks-announce(a)toad.com Subject: New Website is up!! Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com:80) Send reply to: "Jared" <cutey-jared(a)mailcity.com> New Web page up at HTTP://WWW.INSTANTWEB.COM/~SALEM/ CHECK IT OUT!! THANKS!! -CypherPunks Get your FREE, private e-mail account at http://www.mailcity.com

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Re: Killing Stan the Right Way
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: time to export RSA and demand to be prosecuted? (Re:Cypherpunks Crypto_Legal Assistance Fund) (fwd)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: get me off/ME TOO!
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-15 02:54:47 EST, A real "nobody" writes: << Dumbass, if you didn't have the brain cells to understand what this list is about, don't play with your mommy's computer and e-mail account. Open a dos prompt and type "FDISK/U" and all your troubles will be over. >> Look Nobody, I don't think that even ONE cypherpunk (other than yourself) is stupid enough to think I would do it. << (what a fucked up band name) >> Yes, that's why we changed it from the "Nobodies" to "Nobody's Business" {BIG GRIN] Stan Rosenthal, Nobody's Business - http://members.aol.com/StanSquncr/home.html PS: 'Stan and the Sequencers' opens for the Brave Combo, March 27, at the FabSat in Houston, Be There Or Be Square (and if you're a Liberatarian or a Republican, you can be there AND be square!)

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Nobody's Business
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-03-15 05:10:13 EST, nobody(a)REPLAY.COM writes: << That was back in the days when Americans still knew how to make a big, high-powered car, but cypherpunks didn't use them to get to their computers because they weren't namby-pamby momma's boys like those godless commie A(h)OLs who get their peckers hammered on the cypherpunks list and then complain because they can't get off. >> It's always easy to tell who's nerves I touch, notice the "McCarthyism" - " ... commie ... ", you guys can't hide, you're too fucking stupid. Register and vote against Conservatives, Liberatarians and Republicans. And Nobody, call yourself for what you are, a "DittoHead" (ie: a "stupid, fucking moron"). Oh, but the REAL name for joker's such as "nobody"? He's a member of the "Know-nothing" movement. Look it up in a Dictionary. << Has anyone seen my shoes? I can't find my shoes... >> That's because you're a "stupid fucking moron." Stan

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Validation Code for WBS Access (cypherpunks, 46910009)
by WebChat Broadcasting System 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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