December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Spy Touts Crypto
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:40:04 -0500 Frankfurt, Germany (AP) -- Germany's spy chief has denied U.S. allegations that his agents spy on American companies, but he warned German firms that such economic espionage is soaring internationally. Bernd Schmidbauer said in comments published Saturday that, in contrast to most countries' spy agencies, Germany's is not involved in any economic espionage. The Frankfurter Allgemeine daily reported that the FBI last month accused Germany of running a post near Frankfurt that eavesdrops on U.S. phones and tries to break into American computer systems. "We're astounded about those reports from the FBI," the newspaper quoted Schmidbauer as saying. He said the post is involved only in trying to prevent the spread of weapons of mass destruction. The FBI does not normally identify governments it suspects of economic spying. But an article last month, written by an FBI agent for the industry magazine Public Administration Review, lists Germany along with France, Israel, China and South Korea as major offenders. The article said more than 700 investigations involving economic espionage by foreign governments are pending before the bureau. The FBI confirmed that figure last month. The American Society for Industrial Security estimated that American businesses lost $300 billion in intellectual property to foreign and domestic spies last year. Schmidbauer said German companies also are increasingly targeted, and warned that any conversations, faxes or computer information carried over phone lines or mobile phones could be eavesdropped. "A lot of money is being lost through this form of espionage," Schmidbauer said, without giving a figure. "And it's not only east European spies that are snapping up know-how from German companies." "Our companies are relatively naive," he said. "Concrete steps must be taken ... including encoding techniques." [End] Thanks to DN.

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Erich Mielke
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 2/15/98 7:52 PM J Orlin Grabbe Albuquerque Journal h 2/5/98 Ex-Spy Denied Extra Pension BERLIN - The former head of the East German secret police, a lifelong communist who fled Germany in the 1930s to avoid the Nazis, is not entitled to extra pension money for the time he spent in exile, a court ruled Wednesday. One the No. 2 man in East Germany, Erich Mielke, 90, now lives in seclusion with his wife in an apartment in eastern Berlin. His monthly pension, according to German media, is just under $55 a month. Hoping to boost his income, he applied to Berlin authorities for a supplemental pension for the years he spent in Moscow and Spain, 1931 until the end of World War II. But the court ruled that the main reason for his exile was not fear of persecution, but for his involvement as a young communist street fighter in the killing of two Berlin policemen on Aug. 9, 1931. Your attached article ALSO may include Mielke. Grabbe, a LOT of guys wanted to find out what happened. Israel too. Let's all hope for settlement of this unfortunate matter. Later bill Title: NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict [Email Reply] NSA, Crypto AG, and the Iraq-Iran Conflict by J. Orlin Grabbe One of the dirty little secrets of the 1980s is that the U.S. regularly provided Iraq's Saddam Hussein with top-secret communication intercepts by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). Consider the evidence. When in 1991 the government of Kuwait paid the public relations firm of Hill & Knowlton ten million dollars to drum up American war fever against the evil dictator Hussein, it brought about the end of a long legacy of cooperation between the U.S. and Iraq. Hill & Knowlton resurrected the World War I propaganda story about German soldiers roasting Belgian babies on bayonets, updated in the form of a confidential witness (actually the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the U.S.) who told Congress a tearful story of Iraqi soldiers taking Kuwaiti babies out of incubators and leaving them on the cold floor to die. President George Bush then repeated this fabricated tale in speeches ten times over the next three days. What is remarkable about this staged turn of events is that, until then, Hussein had operated largely with U.S. approval. This cooperation had spanned three successive administrations, starting with Jimmy Carter. As noted by John R. MacArthur, "From 1980 to 1988, Hussein had shouldered the burden of killing about 150,000 Iranians, in addition to at least thirteen thousand of his own citizens, including several thousand unarmed Kurdish civilians, and in the process won the admiration and support of elements of three successive U.S. Administrations" [1]. Hussein's artful slaughter of Iranians was aided by good military intelligence. The role of NSA in the conflict is an open secret in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. Only in this country has there been a relative news blackout, despite the fact that it was the U.S. administration that let the crypto cat out of the bag. First, U.S. President Ronald Reagan informed the world on national television that the United States was reading Libyan communications. This admission was part of a speech justifying the retaliatory bombing of Libya for its alleged involvement in the La Belle discotheque bombing in Berlin's Schoeneberg district, where two U.S. soldiers and a Turkish woman were killed, and 200 others injured. Reagan wasn't talking about American monitoring of Libyan news broadcasts. Rather, his "direct, precise, and undeniable proof" referred to secret (encrypted) diplomatic communication between Tripoli and the Libyan embassy in East Berlin. Next, this leak was compound by the U.S. demonstration that it was also reading secret Iranian communications. As reported in Switzerland's Neue Zurcher Zeitung, the U.S. provided the contents of encrypted Iranian messages to France to assist in the conviction of Ali Vakili Rad and Massoud Hendi for the stabbing death in the Paris suburb of Suresnes of the former Iranian prime minister Shahpour Bakhtiar and his personal secretary Katibeh Fallouch. [2] What these two countries had in common was they had both purchased cryptographic communication equipment from the Swiss firm Crypto AG. Crypto AG was founded in 1952 by the (Russian-born) Swedish cryptographer Boris Hagelin who located his company in Zug. Boris had created the "Hagelin-machine", a encryption device similar to the German "Enigma". The Hagelin machine was used on the side of the Allies in World War II. Crypto AG was an old and venerable firm, and Switzerland was a neutral country. So Crypto AG's enciphering devices for voice communication and digital data networks were popular, and customers came from 130 countries. These included the Vatican, as well the governments of Iraq, Iran, and Libya. Such countries were naturally skeptical of cryptographic devices sold in many NATO countries, so turned to relatively neutral Switzerland for communication security. Iran demonstrated its suspicion about the source of the leaks, when it arrested Hans Buehler, a top salesman for Crypto AG, in Teheran on March 18, 1992. During his nine and a half months of solitary confinement in Evin prison in Teheran, Buehler was questioned again and again whether he had leaked Teheran's codes or Libya's keys to Western powers. Luckily Buehler didn't know anything. He in fact believed in his own sales pitch that Crypto AG was a neutral company and its equipment was the best. They were Swiss, after all. [3] Crypto AG eventually paid one million dollars for Buehler's release in January 1993, then promptly fired him once they had reassured themselves that he hadn't revealed anything important under interrogation, and because Buehler had begun to ask some embarrassing questions. Then reports appeared on Swiss television, Swiss Radio International, all the major Swiss papers, and in German magazines like Der Spiegel. Had Crypto AG's equipment been spiked by Western intelligence services? the media wanted to know. The answer was Yes [4]. Swiss television traced the ownership of Crypto AG to a company in Liechtenstein, and from there back to a trust company in Munich. A witness appearing on Swiss television explained the real owner was the German government--the Federal Estates Administration. [5] According to Der Spiegel, all but 6 of the 6000 shares of Crypto AG were at one time owned by Eugen Freiberger, who resided in Munich and was head of the Crypto AG managing board in 1982. Another German, Josef Bauer, an authorized tax agent of the Muenchner Treuhandgesellschaft KPMG, and who was elected to the managing board in 1970, stated that his mandate had come from the German company Siemens. Other members of Crypto AG's management had also worked at Siemens. Was the German secret service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), hiding behind the Siemens' connection? So it would seem. Der Spiegel reported that in October 1970, a secret meeting of the BND had discussed how the Swiss company Graettner could be guided into closer cooperation with Crypto AG, or could even merged with it. The BND additionally considered how "the Swedish company Ericsson could be influenced through Siemens to terminate its own cryptographic business." [6] A former employee of Crypto AG reported that he had to coordinate his developments with "people from Bad Godesberg". This was the location of the "central office for encryption affairs" of the BND, and the service instructed Crypto AG what algorithms to use to create the codes. The employee also remembers an American "watcher", who strongly demanded the use of certain encryption methods. Representatives from NSA visited Crypto AG often. A memorandum of a secret workshop at Crypto AG in August 1975, where a new prototype of an encryption device was demonstrated, mentions the participation of Nora L. Mackebee, an NSA cryptographer. Motorola engineer Bob Newman says that Mackebee was introduced to him as a "consultant". Motorola cooperated with Crypto AG in the seventies in developing a new generation of electronic encryption machines. The Americans "knew Zug very well and gave travel tips to the Motorola people for the visit at Crypto AG," Newman told Der Spiegel. Knowledgeable sources indicate that the Crypto AG enciphering process, developed in cooperation with the NSA and the German company Siemans, involved secretly embedding the decryption key in the cipher text. Those who knew where to look could monitor the encrypted communication, then extract the decryption key that was also part of the transmission, and recover the plain text message. Decryption of a message by a knowledgeable third party was not any more difficult than it was for the intended receiver. (More than one method was used. Sometimes the algorithm was simply deficient, with built-in exploitable weaknesses.) Crypto AG denies all this, of course, saying such reports are ""pure invention". What information was provided to Saddam Hussein exactly? Answers to this question are currently being sought in a lawsuit against NSA in New Mexico, which has asked to see "all Iranian messages and translations between January 1, 1980 and June 10, 1996". [7] The passage of top-secret communications intelligence to someone like Saddam Hussein brings up other questions. Which dictator is the U.S. passing top secret messages to currently? Jiang Zemin? Boris Yeltsin? Will Saddam Hussein again become a recipient of NSA largess if he returns to the mass slaughter of Iranians? What exactly is the purpose of NSA anyway? One more question: Who is reading the Pope's communications? Bibliography [1] John R. MacArthur, Second Front: Censorship and Propaganda in the Gulf War, Hill and Wang, New York, 1992. [2] Some of the background of this assassination can be found in "The Tehran Connection," Time Magazine, March 21, 1994. [3] The Buehler case is detailed in Res Strehle, Verschleusselt: der Fall Hans Beuhler, Werd Verlag, Zurich, 1994. [4] "For years, NSA secretly rigged Crypto AG machines so that U.S. eavesdroppers could easily break their codes, according to former company employees whose story is supported by company documents," "No Such Agency, Part 4: Rigging the Game," The Baltimore Sun, December 4, 1995. [5] Reported in programs about the Buehler case that were broadcast on Swiss Radio International on May 15, 1994 and July 18, 1994. [6] "Wer ist der befugte Vierte?": Geheimdienste unterwandern den Schutz von Verschlusselungsgeraten," Der Spiegel 36, 1996. [7] U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, William H. Payne, Arthur R. Morales, Plaintiffs, v. Lieutenant General Kenneth A. Minihan, USAF, Director of National Security Agency, National Security Agency, Defendant, CIV NO 97 0266 SC/DJS. November 2, 1997 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/

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high speed management method
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please teach high speed management method of block cypher to me. Thanks

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Re: <fyi> World-market Crypto for SSL (fwd)
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

suggestions or help with this one? what do you ppl think? Regards, tattooman http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 11:48:01 -0500 From: XXX To: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: <fyi> World-market Crypto for SSL Hi Ken, Thanks for the note. I've got an idea I wanted to bounce off you, since Tattooman seems a suitably non-corporate persona. I'm one of those who believes that the world will be a better place if all people have ready access to strong crypto, for their own personal musing (for what hope has democracy -- or individualism, or community -- if people can not safely muse on unpopular or illicit options, deciding what is right by carefully considering what is wrong as well as right.) I also believe that strong crypto is all that can allow online international commerce, and commerce and trade is the fundamental alternative to war, armed might, and spook-driven controls on inter-cultural relationships.) The core struggle of our time is likely to be between those who want to rely on from-the-top bureaucratic control, essentially militaristic control of friends and foe, and those who trust instead in evolving common needs and mutually beneficial trade interactions between societies and nations. (The fact that the most valuable resource of any future information age -- intellectual capital, human brainpower -- is much more equitably distributed among nations than other "natural" resources, like coal, or gold, also gives me hope for a future in which all nations can offer intellectual trade-good of value and partake of a health and profitable-to-all world trade.) Here's my thought: in the immediate future, Fortify (or some similar freeware product) will offer anyone in the world a chance to upgrade the tens of millions of export-quality (weak crypto) versions of Netscape in circulation, to make them strong-crypto products with both SSL (and soon S/MIME) available to all. One of the big questions in how this world-wide struggle between statist forces who want to restrict individual (and corporate) access to strong crypto internationally, and those of us who instead want to foster the widespread use of strong crypto, is how to educate and promote the use of strong-crypto versions of Netscape (since that is today the upgradable product available worldwide.) What I would like to see is one or several CGI packages which folks could put on their websites which would quickly alert a user that the browser he is using has only limited and restricted export-quality weak crypto, and that he or she should immediately consider upgrading to strong crypto by obtaining Fortify (or other upgrade packages) from XXX website. C2, which is accessible through the Fortify website: www.fortify.net has something like this for SSL. I'm looking into getting something similar for S/MIME -- assuming McKay or others get the S/MIME-enhanced version of Fortify in circulation within a few weeks. Any ideas about how to get this going? Regards, XXX PS. Your note caught me as I was thinking this through, so you doubtless got a more wordy and political response than you expected. Still, this is an open issue of great importance, IMNSHO, and I'd be grateful for any energy or suggestions you might offer.

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Turn Your Computer Into a Personal Mail Server
by owner-cypherpunks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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bugged?
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to me from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this is coming from a .au domain, btw. thanx, TATTOOMAN http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Subject: PGP Yo tat, I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm getting a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before all the noise you get before the connection. Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a connection like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being tapped. Any suggestions ?? XXXXX P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than Tattooman..here's to you (_|_)

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17 Dec '03

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Re: bugged?
by x 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could be wrong, but mine started beeping when ISP switched to new digital modems to support 56K. Now, that obviously doesn't mean he's NOT bugged - but Occam's razor and all that. At 06:20 AM 2/16/98 -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > >anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to me >from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this is >coming from a .au domain, btw. > >thanx, > >TATTOOMAN > >http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 >From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX >To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu >Subject: PGP > >Yo tat, > >I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) > >Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the >question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). > >Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm getting >a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The >beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before all the >noise you get before the connection. > >Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a connection >like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being tapped. > >Any suggestions ?? > >XXXXX > >P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than >Tattooman..here's to you (_|_) > > > >

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We've been found out
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Damn! I thought we had everyone fooled. Some pissant wrote: Death of a Legend / The Truth About the CypherPunks: The CypherPunks have long been renowned as standing at the bleeding edge of the burdgeoning computer technology which is rapidly changing the face of our planet and the governmental, civil, and social societies encompassed within this celestial orb. Harbingers of the Digital Future / Pioneers of Future Technology / etc., etc. Bullshit... The CypherPunks are rag-tag band of infantile, pseudo-anarchistic, pseudo- cryptic, well-educated shit-disturbers who take great pleasure in pissing on themselves, each other, and the world around them--all the while, covering their motivations and ambitions with high-sounding ideals intended to disguise the fact that none of them ever received proper toilet-training. The end result? No matter how high they pile it, how far they spread it, or how badly it smells when you step in it, they end up coming off as the Henry Kissinger's of CyberSpace, because no matter how much rotten meat, jalapenos and moldy cheese they eat, they can never manage to crap out anything so vile and foul- smelling that the world-at-large cannot prove prophetic in MeatSpace.

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Re: (none)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous asks: > If its so easy to make your own biological weapons, > hoembrewed in a bathtub (or vat or whatever), how > about posting some web links or pointers? > > If its so easy why haven't more downtrodden > Americans (there are a lot of loonies in this > country) tried this stuff out yet? Because it's so easy to kill yourself doing so.

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RE: bugged?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Alan, I thought he was refering to that too, but notice he says the beep is before the negotiation, just after the dialing. Bye for now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Olsen [SMTP:alan@clueserver.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:06 AM > To: Ken Williams > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com; dc-stuff(a)dis.org; > hh-chat(a)gateway-1.secureservers.net > Subject: Re: bugged? > > At 06:20 AM 2/16/98 -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > > > >anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to > me > >from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this > is > >coming from a .au domain, btw. > > Sounds like he has a 56k modem and his ISP just upgraded to the same > sort > of 56k modem he has. That is part of the protocol negotiation. (In > the > future, it will take 30 minutes to finish connecting with a modem, but > we > will all get 666k transmission speed over normal phone lines.) > > > > >thanx, > > > >TATTOOMAN > > > >http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 > >From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX > >To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu > >Subject: PGP > > > >Yo tat, > > > >I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) > > > >Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the > >question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). > > > >Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm > getting > >a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The > >beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before > all the > >noise you get before the connection. > > > >Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a > connection > >like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being > tapped. > > > >Any suggestions ?? > > > >XXXXX > > > >P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than > >Tattooman..here's to you (_|_) > > > > > --- > | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand > | > |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: > | > | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man > | > |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the > keyboard.| > | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ > |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Letter of the law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute an act of export?? > From jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Sat Feb 14 02:07:45 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu: jkwilli2 owned process doing -bs > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 04:27:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> > X-Sender: jkwilli2(a)c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Letter of the law > X-Copyright: The contents of this message may not be reproduced in any form > X-Copyright: (including Commercial use) unless specific permission is granted > X-Copyright: by the author of the message. All requests must be in writing. > X-Disclaimer: The contents of this email are for educational purposes only > X-Disclaimer: and do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself > X-Disclaimer: or my employer and are not endorsed by sponsored by or provided > X-Disclaimer: on behalf of North Carolina State University. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Anonymous wrote: > > >>I'm in El Paso Texas... so close to the border > >>I can see Old Mex outside my window as I write this.. > >>I'm over there nearly every day for lunch ( I actually > >>walk there from my house it's so close) If I write > >>a crypto program on my laptop over there and ftp > >>it to a web page I have on a server outside the US > >>will I have avoided the foolish export regs?? > >>Does anyone know of someone trying this before?? > > > >My guess is this: > > if it has the name of a US citizen in the copyright > >notice, it will be assumed to have been made in the > >US. if the morons even go after you. you still may have > >a plausable excuse if ever taken to court. > >after all, you "exported" youself, which is a perfectly > >legal thing to take out of the country, and "yourself" > >accidentally spewed a copy of something that couldn't > >cross the border. > >I don't think anybody has tried this and been challenged. > >then again, a lot of us don't have the opportunity. > >It's easier to ask forgivness than permission... > >Another easier excuse would be to publish it freely in > >hardcopy form, and just "happen" to have somebody end up > >"typing" in your source code abroad, making a legit > >international copy... > >-Anon2 > > i would think that the big question here, legally, is whether or not you > would be ustilizing a US ISP and/or cellular provider to make the upload > of the crypto program to the foreign server via ftp. as long as all the > packets stay outside of US borders, in other words, as long as you don't > use a US ISP and cellular provider, then i don't see how you would be > violating any laws in this case. > > Regards, > > TATTOOMAN > > http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ > Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com The views expressed herein are my own, and are not attributable to any other source, be it employer, friend or foe.

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The danger of certificates
by Henri La Bouche 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IMHO there is a serious situation creeping up that I have not seen much attention on. That is the use of certificates to encrypt e-mail. I think these are two entirely separate subjects and unless the distinction is made and people are made to see it strong encryption will be next to useless. If I may draw an analogy (albeit flawed <g>). Using a certificate to sign or encrypt a message is akin to notarizing a document. Using strong encryption is akin to putting snail mail in an envelope before sending. To have to notarize every piece of mail you send, or to be required to go to the post office and show ID in order to send mail would be a gross invasion of privacy and completely unacceptable. Yet this is what is done when using certificates to encrypt e-mail. Currently this use of certificates is not widespread, but if any lesson is to be learned from the "browser wars" is that if you give it away people will use it regardless of quality. And in America especially, if something requires brains or intelligence to use you know right off that the general public will not accept it. As e-mail becomes more and more the standard it will be easy to whip the populace into a frenzy regarding "privacy" and spam then provide the simple and easy method of using certificates as a standard. Let's put on the black hat for a moment and create a plan. We want to snooker the public into believing it has security through strong encryption and yet we have the ability to track connections and communications. Further we would like to get a net gain of intel, not just replace the current system with something new. The primary goals would be 1. Knock out any competing encryption system. 2. Provide a system that is apparently strong but is not. The best way to defeat number one is to give away number two (pun intended). The specs for such a system would be: 1. A backdoor or key escrow or other method to easily decrypt the information sent. 2. A means to trace all messages back to the actual originator. 3. A means to know who is the true recipient. 4. User friendly (no-brainer). 5. It must provide benefits above and beyond encryption and digital signatures. 6. Acceptable to the general public. The simplest method of creating key escrow is to have a single source for issuing keys. If people are unable to create their own keys then there will be no problem with having to break unknown keys. To make this acceptable to the populace there has to be an apparent benefit. If the keys are issued by a "trusted" authority who supposedly takes great pains to verify identity before issuing a key, then the people don't have to think or be bother to look for deceit. The authority will be there to ensure it never happens. This system also provides traceability of originator and recipient. To make it user friendly, make it password free, fully integrated into the e-mail client and fully transparent to the user. Additional benefits could be the noted above "trusted" authority factor as well as whipping up a frenzy about "hackers" reading your mail and doing horrible things, which will be prevented if your just use our encryption. Also "faster" protocols can be invented that whisk certificate encrypted mail through the internet faster and more reliably. Use of certificates can eliminate spam, simply filter out all mail that is not encrypted with one of our certificates, after all, if someone doesn't use our certificate then they must have something to hide. Making it acceptable would require that it appear to be not controlled by the government and then run a PR campaign selling it. First off have a few large corporations back it, have the certificates issued by an apparently private corporation and finally have athlete and movie star endorsements, i.e. "Got Encryption". The political deviants who refuse to use this system will be easy to isolate and target. Henri <hedgehog(a)anon.efga.org>

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17 Dec '03

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$10million logic bomb goes off
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://biz.yahoo.com/upi/98/02/17/general_state_and_regional_news/nyzap_1.h… Tuesday February 17 4:16 PM EST Fired programmer zaps old firm NEWARK, N.J., Feb. 17 (UPI) _ A disgruntled computer programmer dismissed from a defense contractor has been arraigned for allegedly zapping his old firm's computer system in retaliation, causing losses of $10 million. Timothy Lloyd of Wilmington, Del. worked as the computer network programmer for Omega Engineering Corp., in Bridgeport, N.J. The company, which has offices in Stamford, Conn., and elsewhere in the world, produces high-tech measurement and control instruments used by the U.S. Navy and NASA. Lloyd was fired from Omega on July 10, 1996, after working there for about 11 years. Twenty days after his dismissal he allegedly activated a computer ``bomb'' that permanently deleted all of the company's design and production programs, costing the company about $10 million in sales and contracts. Philadelphia Secret Service head Danny Spriggs says the $10 million in damages is believed to be one of the most expensive computer sabotage cases they have ever investigated. Lloyd was also charged with stealing $50,000 in computer equipment from Omega and taking it home. U.S. District Judge William Walls set bail at $25,000 and scheduled trial for April 20. If convicted Lloyd faces up to five years for the sabotage count and up to 10 years for the theft count. He could also be ordered to pay restitution and fines. _- ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu Has Nike hired Monica to endorse kneepads yet?

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Re: Letter of the law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ken, I guess I was thinking about the NSA, recording the message and deciding to make an example. They seem to do that occassionally just to keep the rest of us folks 'in line'. I can't see the INS even understanding what they were looking at, even if you showed them. "My, my, my! All those bits are really in that little box?" You have to understand the difference between a 'large possibility' and a 'fat chance', yes? Now, drugs! That they understand ... But a PKI key? Or, a file?? Or, a crypto program (especially renamed)??? What piece of this trick question am I missing? Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com The views expressed herein are my own, and are not attributable to any other source, be it employer, friend or foe. > From jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Tue Feb 17 10:56:22 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu: jkwilli2 owned process doing -bs > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:56:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> > X-Sender: jkwilli2(a)c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu > To: Bob De Witt <rdew(a)el.nec.com> > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Letter of the law > X-Copyright: The contents of this message may not be reproduced in any form > X-Copyright: (including Commercial use) unless specific permission is granted > X-Copyright: by the author of the message. All requests must be in writing. > X-Disclaimer: The contents of this email are for educational purposes only > X-Disclaimer: and do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself > X-Disclaimer: or my employer and are not endorsed by sponsored by or provided > X-Disclaimer: on behalf of North Carolina State University. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Bob De Witt wrote: > > >Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute > >an act of export?? > > well, yes, of course. that was taken for granted in my comments. > likewise, if you go to a tattoo parlor and get the infamous 4 line > crypto-sig tattooed on your ass, then you are classified as a munition, > and you cannot leave the US. > > the only relevant question here regards the odds that a US Customs officer > is going to want you to drop your drawers and bend over... > ;-) > > ken > > >> >>I'm in El Paso Texas... so close to the border > >> >>I can see Old Mex outside my window as I write this.. > >> >>I'm over there nearly every day for lunch ( I actually > >> >>walk there from my house it's so close) If I write > >> >>a crypto program on my laptop over there and ftp > >> >>it to a web page I have on a server outside the US > >> >>will I have avoided the foolish export regs?? > >> >>Does anyone know of someone trying this before?? > >> > > >> >My guess is this: > >> > if it has the name of a US citizen in the copyright > >> >notice, it will be assumed to have been made in the > >> >US. if the morons even go after you. you still may have > >> >a plausable excuse if ever taken to court. > >> >after all, you "exported" youself, which is a perfectly > >> >legal thing to take out of the country, and "yourself" > >> >accidentally spewed a copy of something that couldn't > >> >cross the border. > >> >I don't think anybody has tried this and been challenged. > >> >then again, a lot of us don't have the opportunity. > >> >It's easier to ask forgivness than permission... > >> >Another easier excuse would be to publish it freely in > >> >hardcopy form, and just "happen" to have somebody end up > >> >"typing" in your source code abroad, making a legit > >> >international copy... > >> >-Anon2 > >> > >> i would think that the big question here, legally, is whether or not you > >> would be ustilizing a US ISP and/or cellular provider to make the upload > >> of the crypto program to the foreign server via ftp. as long as all the > >> packets stay outside of US borders, in other words, as long as you don't > >> use a US ISP and cellular provider, then i don't see how you would be > >> violating any laws in this case. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> TATTOOMAN > >> > >> http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ > >> > >Bob De Witt, > >rdew(a)el.nec.com > >The views expressed herein are my own, > >and are not attributable to any other > >source, be it employer, friend or foe. > > > > > > TATTOOMAN > > /--------------------------[ TATTOOMAN ]--------------------------\ > | ORG: NC State Computer Science Dept VP of The E. H. A. P. Corp. | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)adm.csc.ncsu.edu ehap(a)hackers.com | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu ehap-secure(a)hackers.com | > | WWW: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/ http://www.hackers.com/ehap/ | > | FTP: ftp://152.7.11.38/pub/personal/tattooman/ | > | W3B: http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/w3board/ | > | PGP: finger tattooman(a)152.7.11.38 | > \----------------[ http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ ]----------------/ > > >

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17 Dec '03

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by rlbrye＠daltek.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute >an act of export?? Well, yes it would, but the original scenario includes WRITING the code outside of the US, which means it never was a US creation, even if the creature that happened to be writing the code was native to the US. The question is whether the dude could pull a stunt like this and get away with it. I'd say go for it. You got a plausible loophole to a stupid law that might not hold in court anyways. -Anon

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description of my stream cipher
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: description of my stream cipher From: Jouni Vuorio <Jouni.Vuorio(a)vtoy.fi> Date: 1998/02/17 Message-ID: <34E9D794.371(a)vtoy.fi> Newsgroups: sci.crypt [Subscribe to sci.crypt] [More Headers] Here is description of my stream cipher, it operates one byte at time, instead of one bit at time. itŽs key length is up to 255 bytes (2040 bits) im sure that there are no need for longer description, becourse that vb source code explanes details. only thing that could be difficult to understund is Asc(Mid(Text2, R2 - 1, 1)) that simppely means that take asci value from text (in this case string text2) starting from R2 - 1 and length of 1. i think that everyone understunds the rest. VB source code: Initializing the substitution-box On Error Resume Next D = Len(Key) R = 1 For R2 = 1 To 256 H1 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R2 - 1, 1)) K1 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R, 1)) K2 = Asc(Mid(Text2, D Mod Len(Text2), 1)) K3 = Asc(Mid(Text2, D * R Mod Len(Text2), 1)) K4 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R + D Mod Len(Text2), 1)) R1 = ((R1 + R2 + K + 1) Xor (R1 * R2 + 1)) Mod 256 R3 = ((R3 + R1 + 1) + R2 + (R1 * K + 1 Mod (R3 + R1 + 1))) Mod 256 R4 = (R4 + R3 + R1 + 1) ^ 2 Mod 256 R = R + 1 If (R - 1) = Len(Text2) Then R = 1 C = (C + (H1 + K1 + K2 + K3 + K4 + D + R1 + R3 + R4) Mod 256) Mod 256 C = C Mod 256 SBox = SBox & Chr(C Mod 255 + 1) Next On Error Resume Next Key = Text2 texti = Text1 Text1 = "" R = 1 S1 = Len(Key) S2 = 11 For R2 = 1 To Len(texti) C = Asc(Mid(texti, R2, 1)) - 1 K = (K + Asc(Mid(Key, R2 Mod Len(Key), 1))) Mod 256 K = (K + Asc(Mid(SBox, (((K * R2 Mod 256) - 255) * -1) Mod 257, 1))) Mod 256 R1 = ((R1 + R2 + K) Xor (R1 * R2)) Mod 256 R3 = ((R3 + R1) + R2 + (R1 * K Mod (R3 + R1))) Mod 256 R4 = (R4 + R3 + R1) ^ 2 Mod 256 F1 = (F1 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R1 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F2 = (F2 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R2 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F3 = (F3 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R3 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F4 = (F4 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R4 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F5 = (F5 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, K Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) temp = F1 + F2 + F3 + F4 + F5 + M Mod 256 F = (F + (Asc(Mid(SBox, temp, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) M = M + 1 If M = 2 Then M = 0 If M = 0 Then C = C Xor ((F + K) Mod 256) If M = 1 Then C = C Xor ((((F + K) Mod 256) - 255) * -1) C = (C Mod 256) + 1 Mid(texti, R2, 1) = Chr(C) Next Text1 = texti -- Jouni.vuorio(a)vtoy.fi GSM 050-5456235 PahaeNTeistä soNTaa viNTiöt peNTteihin aseNTavat...

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Handling spam
by The Sheriff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those of you who use mail-reading/downloading softs that let you filter your messages based on header/body content (ie Eudora, ect), I've found a helpfull tool that assists in the filtering out of spam. If the Sender: header is "owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com" and the To: line does not contain the list address, you can easily get a lot of the spam that comes through here. I've resigned myself to creatively filtering out the spam into the trash folder (or your equivilent, like deleting) and leaving it at that, because of time constraints. Best wishes and fresh-roasted peanut taste, The Sheriff. -- ***<REPLY TO: sheriff(a)speakeasy.org>*** --- As kinky as this sounds, finger sheriff(a)speakeasy.org for my RSA PGP public key and my ICQ UIN. If you don't know what a UIN is, head on over to http://www.icq.com :) --- Any and all commercial e-mail will be subject to a $5000 downloading, archival and consulting fee. Cash/MO only. Refusals will result in a default judgement of $10,000 and persuit from my favorite collection agency. NO SPAM! --- --- BEGIN INFLAMATORY BLOCK --- Version: 0 (Survivors) Comments: I was stewing about cliques when the rhyming bug bit. Watch them gather, watch them play. Watch the mailman blow them away. --- END INFLAMATORY BLOCK ---

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nobody(a)REPLAY.COM wrote: ----------------------------------------------------- Here is description of my stream cipher, it operates one ... ... VB source code: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------------------------------ Who the hell uses VB of all languages - to write a crypto algorithm? And, which sane person uses MicroSucks Winduhz?

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Stupid Law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, it is. Even if he wrote a program in Mexico, but carried his laptop back and forth daily, each piece can come into the US, but cannot leave again! Uuuuuuuuummmmmmm, gooooood! Read the actual documents. Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com > From anon(a)anon.efga.org Tue Feb 17 19:44:29 1998 > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:08:26 -0500 > From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> > Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. > It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. > Please report problems or inappropriate use to the > remailer administrator at <admin(a)anon.efga.org>. > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > > >Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute > >an act of export?? > > Well, yes it would, but the original scenario includes WRITING the code > outside of the US, which means it never was a US creation, even if the > creature that happened to be writing the code was native to the US. > > The question is whether the dude could pull a stunt like this and get > away with it. I'd say go for it. You got a plausible loophole to a > stupid law that might not hold in court anyways. > > -Anon > > >

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Squelch discussions of the "spam problem"
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Several lists I'm on are beating the spam problem once again. What to do about it, whether government should step in, and so on. Look, folks, I guarantee that the more everyone talks about the "spam problem," even if most of us don't think it's a pressing problem, the more likely it is that spam legislation will be introduced. And that won't be good, whatever one thinks of spam. Congress operates by catering to special interests and popular calls for "action." Doesn't matter to them what action they take, so long as they can hold up their "Digital Protectin and Children's Safe Surfing Act of 1998" legislation. The more jostling and chatter that goes on, the more likely Congressional aides will start drawing up legislative language. So, even if you think spam is a serious problem, I urge you to suppress the desire to throw your two cents in on what kind of a horrible thing it is, how its corrupting the nation's precious bodily fluids, and how *something* must be done! I guarantee you won't like the results you get, no matter your views on spam. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Sneak Preview!!!
by sneakpreview＠amninc.nu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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167 business and financial reports -53016
by 77224.who＠cygnus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: I was auto-outed by an IMG tag in HTML spam
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This can also happen with embedded tags in news messages, if you use Netscape to read news while 'autoload images' is turned on. It's an interesting form of entrapment. Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Anonymous [SMTP:anon@anon.efga.org] [Trei, Peter] [edited] > They sent a message to my > off-site address (along with those of other critics about whom > they wanted to know more). It was an HTML message with an > embedded IMG tag. > > When Netscape saw that IMG > tag, it happily connected to marketing's "customer" tracking > server, and downloaded the keyed graphic. > > My boss just let me see the log he got from the marketing VP, > showing clearly that my workstation read the message.

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Commercial delegate in Egypt
by awbd＠awbd.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feb. 18th 1998. . Dear Sirs, I have the pleasure to enclose herewith a copy of my C.V. introducing myself to you as a person of very good experience in Freight Forwarding & International Transportation and in the different commercial services related thereto; and proposing myself for representing your company in Egypt and the Middle East as its own local resident COMMERCIAL DELEGATE looking after your interests and projects in this area. As a matter of fact, among lots of investors, many international freight forwarding & transportation companies have started their own presence in Egypt seizing the opportunity of the economic reformation achieved in this area; as now is the right time for business starting in Egypt. Starting with Commercial Delegation I foresee our final target, in case my proposal meets your interest, is to develop that delegation into the full operating companys branch in Egypt. That is to be achieved gradually by time, but as quickly as possible, through building a good account of clients and by selecting and training an efficient professional work team. In addition to my qualifications shown in my enclosed C.V., I am actually a USA resident as per the Green Card I have got for lawful admission for permanent residence in America (Employment Authorized). Such advantage is considered as a good asset for a person appointed by an American company to represent it as its own Commercial Delegate in the area where he was grown up. Speaking their own language and understanding their mentality and the way they think, such delegate can move among the companys correspondents & agents, its clients, the local official authorities, and any other concerned parties to intervene, for his companys favor, to avoid any probable problems and to enhance the companys achievements in this area. For any further details and/or information, please feel free and do not hesitate to contact me through any of the contact means listed among my personal data in my C.V. attached hereto. You may also contact me, for the time being and until Feb. 24th when I leave back to Egypt, through my address in USA which is as follows: 915 Mount Olive Dr. #3 Duarte, CA 91010 Tel & Fax (626) 357 0243 E-mail: info(a)awbd.com Looking forward to getting the honor of working with your esteemed company, I wish you all the best and remain faithfully yours. Isaac Youssef CURRICULUM VITAE PERSONAL DATA: Name: Isaac Youssef Atiya Nationality; Egyptian Place and date of birth: Cairo, On Oct. 5th 1951 Marital Status: Single Education Degree: B.Sc. Cairo University Contact Address: PO Box #15 Al- Afdal Post Office Cairo-11627, Egypt. Tel: 00202-235-3997 Fax: 00202-236-7413 E-mail: andyeg(a)eis.egnet.net JOB HISTORY & BUSINESS EXPERIENCE: Jan. 1st. 94 - Currently: PARTNER and MANAGER of CFT Int1., CENTRE DU FRET ET DU TRANSPORT INTERNATIONAL, which is actually an extension of GONDRAND Egypt (A former company mentioned below). As CFT Intl., I represented the following companies: = SDV group, including SCAC, TTA, & ATT France = TRANSCAP INTERNATIONAL France = GEFCO France Aug, 15th 91 - May 31st 94 The GENERAL MANAGER, and the only ACTIVE PARTNER of GONDRAND Egypt, one of the most leading freight forwarding agents and the international transport companies working in Egypt. As GONDRAND Egypt, I was the agent of many world wide companies such as : = S.F.T. GONDRAND FRERES France = MACH + France = SAVING SHIPPING & FORWARDING Italy = UTC, UNION TRANSPORT CORPORATION USA = UAT, UNION AIR TRANSPORT Europe = DSL, DISTRIBUTION SERVICES LTD USA = GEFCO France = TRUST FREIGHT USA Sep. 1st 88 - Aug. 14th 91: During that period, besides managing an export- import group consisting of 3 sister companies, I worked in the following companies: = DMC, the Egyptian daughter company of DOLLFUS MIEG ET CIE, one of the most leading world wide French threads manufacturers, in which I worked as the MATERIALS / INFORMATION FLOW & PURCHASING MANAGER. My duties included the following: 1- Supplying and furnishing both of the clients of the company and its employees with whatever they needed of information, materials, services, and /or products. 2- Controlling the flow of all the materials imported or locally purchased. 3- Supervising the import formalities and regulations with Banks, Customs and Governmental authorities, Air and Maritime lines, and Freight Forwarding agents. 4- Supervising purchasing and maintenance of the company assets through different contractors, suppliers, and services companies. 5- Controlling the circulation of raw materials and products. = AMECO, an Egyptian freight forwarder which, in the same time, represents ships owners. In AMECO I had the position of the ASSISTANT MANAGER of Cairo branch. = MEDTRANS, The Egyptian correspondent of a group of European and American freight forwarding companies, such as the French company S.F.T. GONDRAND FRERES, And the American company DANIEL F. YOUNG Inc.. In MEDTRANS I had the position of the EXECUTIVE MANAGER. Feb. 1st 80 - Aug. 31st 88 : A SUPERVISOR and a DEPARTMENT HEAD in MFA - MISR FREIGHT AGENCIES - The Egyptian branch of the world wide DANZAS company for international transportation and freight forwarding - which had, at that time, 450 offices distributed in 42 countries with the head office in Switzerland. In MFA- DANZAS Egypt - I supervised the following departments: 1- Sea Freight Dep. (Conventional and General Cargo, and Containerized Shipments). 2- Air Freight Dep. 3- Projects Transport Dep. 4- Transit Goods & Distribution Dep. 5- Fairs & International Exhibitions Transport Dep. 6- The Local Operations & Inland Road Transport Dep. 7- Besides the above, I supervised some special inter-branches relations between MFA and the other world wide branches of DANZAS group. Before MFA was founded, I worked in the above capacities for the COMMERCIAL DELEGATION OF DANZAS in Egypt. Sept. 78 - Jan. 31st 80: The DIRECTOR ASSISTANT of CENTER FOR EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION STUDIES, in which I supervised the following: 1- Planning & Execution of programs 2- Administration 3- Public Relations 4- Correspondence 5- Translation OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: = Courses in MANAGEMENT SKILLS FOR SUPERVISORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS organized by Monadonck International Limited - London, for International Management Development. = A seminar and a long training course in PROJECTS TRANSPORT, SEA FREIGHT, and INLAND ROAD TRANSPORT in DANZAS branch in Zurich city, and in AIR FREIGHT in its branch in Kloten airport of Zurich. = Courses in BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION including FINANCE FOR NON- FINANCIAL MANAGERS, AN INTRODUCTION TO COST ACCOUNTING, and BASIC PRINCIPLES OF FEASIBILITY STUDIES. These courses were organized by The Egyptian-German Association for Economical and Social Development of The Arab-German Chamber of Commerce in Cairo, among the Business Administration Program in Egypt sponsored by Konrad-Adenauer Foundation. = Write and Speak English language. = Some courses in French language, and still studying. = Traveled in Business Trips to many countries, such as Switzerland, UK, France, Germany, Turkey, and USA. = Active, Head Working, Ambitious, and willing for constant movement & traveling. = Fond of creating new businesses in Egypt. Signature Isaac Youssef PS: Besides the ordinary transport activities and the services related to the freight forwarding business, I represent my clients in the various official authorities, e.g. Customs Authority; Investment Authority, General Organization for Fairs & International Exhibitions, Egyptian General Petroleum Corporation, National Authority for Wire and Wireless Communications, Traffic Administration, The Import Rationalization Committee of the Ministry of Foreign Trade, Banks, Embassies, and Chambers of Commerceetc..

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by jenni＠biznetandmarketing.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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New technology around the corner [slashdot.org]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Note: Text edited for relevance. Forwarded message: > Subject: http:--www.slashdot.org- > Hitachi Makes Breakthrough Contributed by Justin > [Technology] Tue Feb 17 16:40:30 1998 EST > From the rapidly-advancing-society? dept. > Hitachi has made a breakthrough of their own, in a different kind of > storage. Hitachi announced they have found a way to reduce the number > of electrons needed to store a bit of information in a DRAM chip. The > 128MB chips should be coming out soon, and will be perfected in the > 16GB (*drool*) generation of chips. > Read More... > 13 comment(s) > Seagate Makes Breakthrough Contributed by Justin > [Technology] Tue Feb 17 15:28:31 1998 EST > From the buncha-really-tiny-mirrors dept. > A division of Seagate Technology, Inc. has announced a new way of > increasing disk drive capacity density. Quinta has disclosed key parts > of their technology, which they call Optically Assisted Winchester > (OAW) technology to make a practical magento-optical disk that is > capable of holding 40GB/square inch. The new technology uses mirrors, > a new servo system, and other methods to allow these large capacities. > Slashdot is participating in Distributed.Net's Decryption Projects. > Read who's helping, and why. Check out Our Current Rank. > [Technology] Sun Feb 15 11:12:15 1998 EST > Plastic Screens (12) ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Quebec secession trial - status?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I was wondering if anyone in the great white north might enlighten us on what is going on with the Quebec secession case that starts this week... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Websites and trademarks at odds [CNN]
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199802181552.JAA11020(a)einstein.ssz.com>, on 02/18/98 at 09:52 AM, Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> said: >> How can consumers trust using the Web, where guessing about a >> company's address can be like playing shopper's roulette? Imagine >> visiting your local grocery store and finding no milk or eggs but >> auto parts instead. Imagine walking into Burger King and being >> offered computer software. This is really much todo about nothing and shows a complete lack of understanding of Trademark laws. Trademarks are product specific, there is nothing preventing preventing two companies from having the same name provided they are not in the same business. You can even have two companies with the same name in the same business provided that the likelyhood of mistaking one company for another is small. Some examples: It is perfectly legal to have a company name IBM (the computer company) and another company called IBM (a local auto repair shop in Podunk, AK). It is also legal to have two companies called Widgets both making widgets provided that both were operating in different regions (Widgets #1 only operated in NewEngland while Widgets #2 only operated in Texas). Trademarks not only involve company names but also include product names. A good example of this is Intel and the naming of thier CPU's. The courts ruled that they could not trademark a Number (286,386,486,...) an this is the reason for the Pentium(TM) name for their chips which is trademarkable. Even so there is nothing preventing McDonalds from calling thier new burger the Pentium as no one should mistake a burger for a CPU (well except for some windows users <g>). Now understanding that even when one Tradmarks a name it does not give you exclusive use of the name how does one apply trademarks to a domain name? Should www.windows.com be the exclusive domain of Microsoft just because they have a program with that name? What about a window manufacture shouldn't he have an equal if not greater claim to that domain (after all his whole business is windows)? Which windows manufacture? Should ABC Windows have that claim or Billy-Bob's Windows Imporium? Should the trademark claim extend to all possible domains? (www.windows.com, www.windows.org, www.windows.net, www.windows-blows-chunks-and-bill-gates-sucks-eggs.com)? I haven't even touched on the international issues. Should a company from one company have the ability to enforce it's trademark claim to all domains world-wide? I fear that this is just another example of the Government trying to get it's sticky fat fingers on another portion of the net not to mention yet aother shoddy piece of journalism (calling it that give too much credit to the author). Just for the slow ones out there it is perfectly legal for me to open a computer store, call it Buger King and call my computer system the Wopper. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: I'm an OS/2 developer...I don't NEED a life! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNOsCLI9Co1n+aLhhAQGPUAP/XIg+CYn3zGQH6ztVDY+gZAEVjPMU04QF 4JePKqGUOPSaXwHF6U7Fvx9bqGl9cBd36JT0KwwQluBRQBdJ4q2FAX4a92JubtuX PqeJRTXNf9QszMDh5LFVSBu+aQi5qozqAglHf6Ep7hMNQ8ZyK1yw7pYHWRvLALGJ dQQaIWI/zKo= =RrnK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Dealing with Spam, Part 2
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>MailGuard, which can be downloaded from www.fundi.com, interposes itself >>between your existing email package and the Internet. When a piece of mail >>comes in, it checks to see whether it recognizes the address of the sender. >>If not, it issues a carefully drafted challenge, asking the sender politely >>to confirm that he is not a bulk sender of commercial mail by replying with >>a specified phrase in the subject field of the email. A freeware Java-based, open architected client-side proxy (ByProxy), which includes agents for SPAM filtration, auto pgp encrypt/decrypt among others is posted to www.besiex.com. It already has noCem and auto/manually builds a friends and enemies list (similar to MailGuard). --Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- reply to schear - at - lvdi - dot - net --- PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Private schools as free speech havens?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:56 PM -0800 2/17/98, Bennett Haselton wrote: >But you wouldn't ask them to accept discriminatory treatment that had >nothing to do with their disability, simply on the basis that the condition >causing them to be discriminated against would eventually go away. What is this "ask them to accept discriminatory treatment" nonsense? An employer should be free to hire and fire whom he chooses, based on the criteria he chooses. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Is spam really a problem?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I see discussion of spam here and everywhere on the net. But who finds it a *real* problem, and why? I've been on the net for nearly 20 years. I'm active on numerous mailing lists. I post to usenet. I have a website. In all cases (except this post) I use real email addresses. Nevertheless, spam does not create a big problem for me. Perhaps 10-15% of my home email is spam, (much less at work) and I identify and kill it in less time than it takes me to sort out the junk from my snail mail. Don't get me wrong; I don't *like* spam. But for me it's a minor problem, certainly not worthy of legal remedies. I'm willing to suffer a certain level of foolish annoyance gladly in return for liberty. The only point at which spam is more than a minor irritation is when sexual spam turns up in my home mail or in inappropriate news groups, and then only because I have young kids, who I don't wish to be exposed to porn until they are more mature (if you flame me on this, you're missing the point of this post, and will be ignored). Masque. PS: I'm slightly anonymous in this message because I fear that if I used my real name, some jerk would decide to sign me up for every spam source on the planet, to prove a point. M

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Re: bugged?
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Breezy wrote: >Babu Mengelepouti wrote: >> >> Ken Williams wrote: >> > >> > I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) >> >> He's the one who needs to change his version... to 2.6.x > >Why use 2.6.x vs 5.0? Is 5.0 not as stable or something? Not as good? >What's up? > >====/------ Breezy ----------------------------/ >===/---- ebresie(a)ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ----------/ >==/---- http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ebresie --/ > PGP v2.6.2 for UNIX is RSA, and cannot decrypt anything crypted with PGP v5.x. v5.0 for UNIX features the DSS/Diffie-Hellman algorithm that all the other 5.x versions have. v5.0 is stable, better, and is basically the current standard. it is more script-friendly and has a better command-line. basically, it really sucks when every encrypted message i have gotten in the past week was encrypted with RSA/DSS and i couldn't decrypt it with the v2.6.2 that is installed at work. due to space limitations on my volume server and our nihilistic copyrighted software policy, my only solution/option at the moment is to bring my laptop to work just for message decryption. i've sent in a software request for a PGP upgrade on the network, but due to the expensive PGP licensing agreements and the fact that we have close to 50,000 active users, i don't expect anything to be done. guess state employees don't have the right to privacy any more huh? and neither do the studnets here for that matter... TATTOOMAN work disclaimer: i lied and i'm legally insane.

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(forw) Re: Cypherpunks - Austin: Sat. Feb. 21 6-7pm, physical meet (fwd)
by Troy A. Bollinger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I made the mistake of replying back to austin-cpunks instead of this list. If anyone attending CFP this week in Austin would like to get together let me know. Or just show up on Saturday for the local meet. Thanks, Troy ----- Forwarded message from Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> ----- Message-Id: <199802181631.KAA11452(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Re: Cypherpunks - Austin: Sat. Feb. 21 6-7pm, physical meet (fwd) To: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:31:27 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <19980218101742.09049(a)austin.ibm.com> from "Troy A. Bollinger" at Feb 18, 98 10:17:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Reply-To: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Hi Troy, > Well, I'm free to meet anytime this week. I don't know what the > schedule is for CFP, but if someone sends me a time and place I'll show > up. > > > Lots of us out-of-towners will be in Austin for CFP this week -- but the > > > conference ends on Friday. People start leaving that evening or the next > > > morning. And those of us are staying through Saturday are planning a day > > > trip outside of Austin that won't get us back by 6 pm. > > > > > > Why not have a pre-meet, or the meet itself, during CFP? You should send a notice to 'cypherpunks(a)ssz.com' so that your offer can be propogated to the entire crew quickly. Thanks for the effort. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Troy Bollinger troy(a)austin.ibm.com AIX Security Development security-alert(a)austin.ibm.com PGP keyid: 1024/0xB7783129 Troy's opinions are not IBM policy

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Two spam-ignorati wrote: >>Don't get me wrong; I don't *like* spam. But >>for me it's a minor problem, certainly not >>worthy of legal remedies. I'm willing to suffer >>a certain level of foolish annoyance gladly >>in return for liberty. >Same for me. I can delete commercial advertisements ("spam") in seconds. I used to have the same attitude. But then I started running a mail server. Routinely I find spammers attempting to use my server as a relay for their crap. The undeliverable notifications fill up my postmaster mail box so that I have to spend much more than "a few seconds" to sort out this virtual mail bomb from the legitimate notifications I need to do something about. Current I am chasing some asshole from ISP to ISP in Arizona, shutting him down only to have him get a new account with another ISP and "mail bomb" me from there. I would gladly prosecute, as this person is no better than a thief, stealing my resources and time so he can run his con. BTW, the reason I sent anon is so other spammers don't get my host name and try to use it as a relay.

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Re: News & Truth
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jefferson: >At a very early period in my life I determined never to put a sentence into >any newspaper. I have religously adhered to the resolution through my life >and have great reason to be contented with it. Were I to undertake to answer >the calumnies of the newspapers it would be more than my time and twenty >aids could effect. For, while I should be answering one, twenty new ones >would be invented. I have thought it better to trust to the justice of my >countrymen that they would judge me by what they see of my conduct on the >stage where they have placed me. a friend of mine is studying Hamilton vs. Jefferson. it turns out Hamilton loved newspapers and would write frequently under his own name, or under a variety of pseudonyms. one biographer states he assumed the personality of each as he wrote under them. I think Jefferson was at ill advantage in the face of Hamilton's tactics. >No Government ought to be without censors; and when the press is free, no >one ever will. Nature has given to man no other means of sifting out the >truth either in religion, law or politics. I think it as honorable to the >government neither to know nor notice its sycophants or censors as it would >be undignified and criminal to pamper the former and persecute the latter. this is pretty hard to parse until one understands that an old form of the word "censor", as I understand it, meant "to criticize". so "censor" as a noun and verb should be replaced with "critic" and "criticize" for the modern translation.

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Re: New technology around the corner [slashdot.org] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:32:21 -0700 > From: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes(a)ssds.com> > Subject: Re: New technology around the corner [slashdot.org] > Does anyone else get the feeling that we are on the cusp of > serious exponential change in technology? I know its been > going exponential for a while, but now I'm really starting > to feel it. I have felt that way since the early 80's. The rate of technology multiplication and some of the truly weird technologies that people said wold never happen are happening. > 2. Flat Plastic Video Screens using Light Emitting Polymers "LEPs" > (Cambridge) Don't forget the fact that their test beds were done with *standard* ink-jet printers with a modified head assembly. > ObCrypto: Since polymer transistors seem to be necessary to implement > polymer memory, how does this effect computation speed? The polymer > transistors must be around 30-40nm and low power. How long until we > have Polymer PGA,PALS,CPUs? How fast will they be? Is it time to add > a few more bits to the public key? Are there any cipher attacks that > would benefit from obscenely large amounts of fast memory? Sorry if > this is a naive question to the theorists. These are some of the exact same questions that I'm trying to add numbers to myself... when we take the union of the computer, information processing, networking, bio-engineering, transportation, etc. industries the various predictions of Toffler and others seem woefuly short-sighted. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: New technology around the corner [slashdot.org] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:16:15 -0800 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: New technology around the corner [slashdot.org] > No, I don't think we're on any kind of cusp of a growth curve. If anything, > several things are slowing down. Stricly speaking I would agree, we are *past* the cusp and on the upward rush of the technology curve. > Beware the "press release." The items above are just a few of literally > thousands of such announcements. Exactly! Only look at what people are actualy *doing* and not what they are predicting. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of forwards in the technology forum I send here are about things that have succeeded. > Remember how "laser pantography" was going to revolutionize chip-making, > and even make "back yard fabs" possible? While the concept of a backyard fab has been pretty much blown out of the water what *has* come around and *wasn't* predicted is the growth of fab-less chip design companies. If you look at how these sorts of businesses have grown since the late 80's onward it is astounding some of the custom chips these firms are willing to design and get built through renting others spare fab bandwidth. > How about "silicon on sapphire" > and how it would obsolete Integrated Injection Logic? (You don't remember > I-squared L? Shame on you, as it was scheduled to put Intel out of business > by 1976). SoS technology was always predicted to win the game *if* the issues of thermal expansion between the Silicon and Sapphire could be resolved. Also, just as with Josephson Junction devices, other methods to achieve the same levels of predicted performance at less cost were devloped. There must be technologies that fail for there to be technologies to win. Simply pointing at the failed ones as an example of why it can't happen is a strategy that is doomed. There will always be some turk who has the self-confidence to say it can be done and then does it. > Or how about plastic cubes that can store terabytes. Or wafer scale > integration. Or e-beam addressed memory. Or neural networks. Or fuzzy logic. All of these technologies are out there. They haven't reached a point where they're mature for a variety of reasons. Let's look at Terabyte storage for a moment. Consider that the largest data bases on the planet are only a few *hundred* Terebytes and of them there are only a few 10's of thousands. Perhaps the reason the market hasn't taken off in this area is because the market isn't large enough. Give it another 5-10 years so that computers have become pervasive in schools, play, home, business, etc. (and no they are not pervasive now) and the market forces to drive new material releases on CD or other long-term media as the *primary* media (paper being so now) *and* there becomes a market for the re-release of past books and material then we'll begin to see a reason for each of us to be carrying around tera-bytes of data. Fuzzy logic and neural networks resolve your telephone switching issues, are used to locate natural resources, filter intelligence data for threads, etc. They're even used in coffee makers and micro-waves now. e-beam addressed memory is a looser, and anyone with a clue back them would have said so as well. Too power hungry, physicaly a bitch to haul around in your shirt pocket, etc. > ("Hey, Tim's being a negativist. My new rice cooker says it has fuzzy logic > in it.") See! > And then there's the whole universe of speculation about quantum computers, I *strongly* suggest folks follow the Quantum Coupled Architecture developments over the next two years or so. > DNA computers, nanotechnology, etc. These are new technologies that are only a decade or two old. Consider transisitors. The first FET transistor effects was discovered in the 30's but it wasn't until the 50's that we actualy managed to build a working BJT and several years after that till the FET based technology became feasible. And there have been some interesting advances in these fields. DES being cracked by a bio-logical computer a couple of years ago for example. The ARM technology as well as the ability to not only understand but manipulate the genetics and mechanics of nano-technology have only been around 5-10 years. These are new technologies that are at the 'terrible-two's' stages of development. It's clear they can do it, they just haven't figured out how. And in the process they're rambling around the house opening every cubbard and drawer dumping the contents out. > The fact is that R&D labs partly run on hype. And journalists are willing > to interview researchers to generate stories. Until it's a reality it's *always* hype. Asking the technology to prove it itself the first day is like asking a new born baby to talk or recite Shakespeare. It's unreasonably demanding and self-deluding. > A particularly interesting place to read about all the Latest and Greatest > technologies destined to replace silicon is "Electronic Engineering Times." You can see some pretty funny predictions in the Enquirer also... It's a good thing to have an open mind, just not so open it sloshes out on the ground. > But I don't get overly excited by announcements of new developments like > this. Perhaps following the industry for 25 years has made me jaded. >From the stories of your personality and the demonstrations I've seen you're a born cynic. The street finds its own uses for technology. William Gibson ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Moore's Law - What is it?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Consider this, Moore's Law has for the past few decades successfuly described the increase in computer performance, at least within experimental error. It has proven it's success, at least short term, from the school of hard knocks. But what *is* Moore's Law? It clearly doesn't discuss the fundamental technology of computing and its limitations. Is it in fact the mathematical description of our understanding and ability to apply that comprehension to the real world. Is it in fact a mathematical model of the limits of human reasoning and not computing technology per se. If Moore's Law is fundamentaly valid over the long-term it should be applicable to other forms of human endeavor since the limits of human reasoning and comprehension would seem to be a characteristic of our mind and not a particular area of application. What other forms of human exploration when examined in this light follow the curve? Perhaps Moore's Law is a measure of an ecomomic systems' ability to apply and distribute technology to the society in a non-breakthrough, an ah-hah experience where there is a fundamental shift of paradigm, environment. If so, what other forms of economic expansion follow this curve? However, if Moore's Law is only applicable to computing technology; Why? Why should such a simple curve describe such a complex and inherently non-deterministic area? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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MailGuard
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I think that this could easily be fixed by only sending out the request >once then adding the address to the possiable spam list until a reply is >received or there is user intervention. Sure, but that doesn't stop the problem at the other end. According to the company: "Messages received from other copies of the program are either brought to the attention of the user, or (if the user so desires) result in the automatic transmission of a positive response to the other copies of the program, which response causes the other copies of the program to 'approve' the user." This implies that they have some 'magic marker' in the challenge messages which forces the software to pass it on to the user. In which case, a spammer can merely add this marker to his messages and they will get through to anyone who has the software configured that way. >I do not run WinBlows on any of my >Inet connected machines so I can not test it here (well I could but I am >not *that* intrested in it). Ditto. >Mailing list seem like they would be a problem as diferent mailing list >use different formats. Unless the software is sophisticated enough to take >this into account you could see alot of garbage being posted. I've seen this problem with other active 'anti-spam' programs on other lists; it's a real pain in the ass. They say the software handles lists properly, but who knows? >The fake e-mail address seems to be a real problem if they resolve to a >valid domain let alone a valid e-mail address not belonging to the spamer. Exactly; any kind of active anti-spam is a pain in the ass in this case. I just filter and delete, which gets 95%+ of spam sent to my account; 3MB in the last nine months, last I checked. Mark

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Re: Websites and trademarks at odds [CNN]
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

the article states that it is difficult for consumers to find companies when trademarks are not equivalent to web site addresses. solution: a "trademark directory" web page-- say, www.trademark.com. it gives the official web site of all companies in the world. yahoo is close to this but not quite. an opportunity for a budding entrepreneur. it would clearly be a very high-traffic site, ripe with advertising possibilities. added benefit: it might cut down on the animosity going on over web site addresses, "poaching", and lawsuits over ownership.

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