December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Announcement: RPK InvisiMail released on 12 Jan, 1998
by Bruce Schneier 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A bunch of us cryptographers would really like to attack RPK, but the documents on the website are slippery enough to make it difficult. There is enough unspecified for them to sneak away from any analysis. If someone were to reverse engineer the RPK cryptosystem from this product, I would really appreciate it. Bruce ********************************************************************** Bruce Schneier, President, Counterpane Systems Phone: 612-823-1098 101 E Minnehaha Parkway, Minneapolis,MN 55419 Fax: 612-823-1590 http://www.counterpane.com

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What was the URL again? I got that at work and want to re-visit site tonite at home.

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patent office and key recovery
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Bellovin <smb(a)research.att.com> posted this to cryptography: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's NY Times had an article on how the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office is gearing up for electronic filing of patent and trademark applications (http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/012698patents.html) Since patent applications here are confidential, filings must be encrypted. And of course, one of the things holding up deployment -- of a system where a government agency is the legitimate recipient of the message -- is the "need" for key recovery. "The agency wants to include a "key recovery" system in the software in case the encryption has to be broken." The mind boggles. ----------------------------------------------

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Re: EPR, Bell, and FTL Bandwidth (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Cordian writes: > An Entity at Replay writes: > > > You agree with the foolish statement that the behavior of correlated > > photons is no more weird than sending out two envelopes? I thought > > you had more sense than that. > > With correlated branch systems, examination of one branch can disclose > information about another branch which is currently distant from us. > This is no more weird in the quantum mechanical case, than it is in > the classical case. The envelope analogy is perfectly appropriate. > > That's not to say that quantum mechanical systems aren't "weird" in > ways that classical systems are not. It's just that this is not one > of those areas of weirdness. It's much worse than this. The violation of Bell's inequality implies that changes to the basis used to measure one particle cause changes in the observed state of the remote particle. Of course this can't be used to transmit information; we all agree on that. The remote particle has a random orientation. But the point is, Bell's theorem shows that the remote orientation depends on how the local measurement is done. This is not a matter of simply perceiving or deducing what the conditions are at the remote branch, as in the envelope case. A better analogy would be an envelope which could be opened in two ways, from the top or from the bottom. If you open from the top then the remote envelope will have the same contents as the local one, while if you open from the bottom then the remote envelope will have the opposite contents. In each case the contents are random; the remote observer has no idea whether you opened from the top or the bottom. But somehow your decision on how to open the envelope (what basis to measure the photon) is changing how these globally separated subsystems relate to each other. (This analogy isn't perfect, either, because it might seem that magic changes to the local contents could make the envelope work. Bell's reasoning shows that it is the remote photon's state which must be altered by the choice of how to measure the local one.) This is the fundamental flaw in the envelope analogy, which makes it seriously flawed and misleading. It gives the impression that some kind of hidden variables (the contents within the envelope) can easily solve the problem, when nothing could be further from the truth. It papers over one of the most mysterious facets of quantum mechanics, by making it appear to be mundane. It represents a fundamentally mistaken way to view remote correlated particles. > > How do you explain the violation of Bell's theorem in QM? What is > > your nice, cozy, friendly, un-weird explanation? I'm curious whether > > you are going to sacrifice locality or reality. Somehow I think > > you'll have to go beyond what is necessary to explain the behavior of > > envelopes. > > The wavefunction of the universe is not a physical observable. I do > not have to sacrifice causality for physical phemonema to have > non-local collapse of the wavefunction when measurements are > performed. A satisfactory theory of quantum mechanical measurement > does not currently exist, and it has even been conjectured that > gravitation may be the sole force immune from quantum mechanical > superposition, and that this may be the mechanism behind wavefunction > collapse. There are other hypotheses as well, and the experiments to > distinguish amongst them have yet to be performed. > > A correct theory of quantum mechanical measurement will disclose the > mechanisms by which things like non-local wavefunction collapse, > quantum teleporation, the quantum eraser effect, and other current > oddities are mediated. This will undoubtedly involve a deeper > understanding of how quantum gravity works, and perhaps even the > physics underlying the existence of consciousness itself. OK, so you can't explain it. Fine, it is indeed a mysterious phenomenon, and no doubt you are correct that more insights will come in the future. Now, compare this with the envelope analogy Tim May offered: >> All that is revealed is a _correlation_, a kind of structure built >> into the Universe. Interesting, but not so weird as it seems. (And >> this is not any kind of "action at one site instantaneously changing >> the state far away." No more so than sending two envelopes out, one >> with a "1" inside and the other with a "0" inside changes things >> instantaneously.....) Are you at all tempted to resort to such language in trying to understand how the envelopes could work? Is it puzzling how we could open one here and find a 1 and suddenly know that there is a 0 in the remote envelope? Do we need to learn more about how measurements of envelope contents work before we can begin to tackle this thorny philosophical conundrum? Of course not! The envelope case is transparently obvious. There are no puzzles here, no complexities, no confusion. The only confusion is in the minds of those who think that correlated envelopes have anything to do with correlated photons, or that the hidden variables which perfectly well explain what is happening with the envelopes shed any light whatsoever on the workings of nonlocal QM systems. > However, none of this implies in the least that a physical effect is > propagated non-causally across vast distances when a conscious choice > is made to measure one of two non-commuting observables for one of a > pair of "entangled" particles, which, I believe, is what the current > argument is over. No, the current argument is over how much of a jackass Tim May is.

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RE: Microsoft Internet Explorer: Request for Comments
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fisher Mark <FisherM(a)exch1.indy.tce.com> writes: > >One small beef: why doesn't it accept .p12 certificates signed by > >"Vesign web site CA"? > > Are these PEM or DER-encoded? There is a known problem with PEM-encoded > Certificate Authority certificates not being accepted at all. > (DER-encoded Certificate Authority certificates are accepted, but MSIE > 4.x won't display their contents while you are accepting them -- you > have to accept them, then view their contents.) Let me illustrate... This is the cypherpunks.p12 certificate signed by "VeriSign Web Site Access CA" for cypherpunks(a)bwalk.dm.com (Random Q. Hacker). I believe it's x509/DER. You need to save it as a local file (say \temp\cypherpunks.p12). The password ("pin") is "cypherpunks". To import the certificate in your Netscape[tm] Navigator 4 browser I do this: Click on Communicator -> Security Info Under Certificates, click on Yours, then on "Import a Certificate" Select the local file. 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I *assume* it's because "Vesign web site CA" isn't even listed among the authorities IE accepts (and I'm too lasy to search the web for whatever I need to add to IE) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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More reasons why Nynex is evil... (fwd)
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:08:27 -0500 From: Salvatore DeNaro <Salvatore_DeNaro(a)usccmail.lehman.com> To: Ray Arachelian <sunder(a)brainlink.com> Subject: More reasons why Nynex is evil... http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayNew.pl?/metcalfe/metcalfe.htm

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Re: Chaining ciphers
by jim＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May skribis: > I don't think 3DES is weak, but chaining-in additional ciphers can't hurt. > (Just a minor slowdown in encipherment speed, presumably not important for > some critical uses.) Yes, that's definitely better for high-confidence long-term archival stuff than relying on one cipher. Carl Ellison's suggestion was DES | tran | nDES | tran | DES, where "tran" is an unkeyed large-block transposition. One word of caution (which should be obvious, but can't hurt to repeat it): if you chain ciphers (e.g. DES | IDEA | 3DES | CAST | Blowfish), be sure to use separate keys for each of them; otherwise breaking the last one will give the key to the whole lot. BTW, I went to look this up in the Cyphernomicon (I sorta think it's reffed in there), but the first 4 sites I saw on Altavista were all dead-end broken links. The Web's ripping... what's the current Preferred URL? Jim Gillogly Trewesday, 8 Solmath S.R. 1998, 17:22 12.19.4.15.18, 9 Edznab 16 Muan, Third Lord of Night

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Senate probes Microsoft [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > By SCOTT SONNER > Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Microsoft, already in trouble with the > JusticeDepartment for alleged antitrust violations, also is the target > ofa Senate Judiciary Committee investigation, a Senate aide saidtoday. > > "They are definitely investigating Microsoft," said TonyWilliams, > chief of staff to Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash. "They aremeeting with > Microsoft. They are talking with them about antitrustmatters." > > Microsoft had no immediate comment today but Williams said > thecommittee has asked Microsoft to voluntary turn over > documentsregarding its business practices. > > The committee for some time has been reviewing the activities > ofMicrosoft and other companies in regard to how antitrust laws > applyto the Internet. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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virus alert!
by Roman Rutman (sw) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Previus message include virus: C:\test2.com : virus BW-based detected. Do not run it. Have a nice day, Roman Rutman roman(a)softwinter.com seNTry 2020 - transparent disk encryption software - http://www.softwinter.com The information in this e-mail maybe confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advise contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing Soft Winter terms of business.

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Re: hackers and minick
by ОЕМ Пользователь 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello there!!! I send this letter because i want to know anything about hackers Kevin Mitnick please send more information about these topics my E-mail kes21(a)chat.ru

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ALERT: Message from kes21 was truncated; File att1.com infected with BW.556 virus
by MTL_HUB＠mbi.mercantile.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please refer to the GroupShield Quarantine Area for more details. INCIDENT --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Scan Time: 01/30/98 08:06:45 AM Detection: File att1.com infected with BW.556 virus Disposition: Note has been truncated Quarantined: (Document link not converted) CN=MTL_HUB/OU=STL/O=MTL!!d:\notes\data\QAREA.NSF Version: GroupShield 3.14 (Build 184) MESSAGE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Message ID: 004D7F4F Sender: kes21(a)chat.ru Subject: Re: Programming Recipients: CN=Taru Goel/OU=STL/O=MTL Routing: CN=MTL_HUB/OU=STL/O=MTL SYNOPSIS --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- RICH TEXT 'Body' (NORMAL) RICH TEXT 'Body' (NORMAL) FILE ATTACHMENT 'att1.com' << BW.556 >> File size: 559 bytes Host type: MSDOS Compression: OFF Attributes: PUBLIC READ-WRITE File flags: 0 Created: 01/30/98 08:06:29 AM Modified: 01/30/98 08:06:29 AM Status: Removed Scanner: McAfee Scan DLL (version 3030) found BW.556

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ALERT: Message from kes21 was truncated; File att1.com infected with BW.556 virus
by MTL_HUB＠mbi.mercantile.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please refer to the GroupShield Quarantine Area for more details. INCIDENT --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Scan Time: 01/30/98 08:44:33 AM Detection: File att1.com infected with BW.556 virus Disposition: Note has been truncated Quarantined: (Document link not converted) CN=MTL_HUB/OU=STL/O=MTL!!d:\notes\data\QAREA.NSF Version: GroupShield 3.14 (Build 184) MESSAGE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Message ID: 0050F98C Sender: kes21(a)chat.ru Subject: Re: Programming Recipients: CN=Taru Goel/OU=STL/O=MTL Routing: CN=MTL_HUB/OU=STL/O=MTL SYNOPSIS --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- RICH TEXT 'Body' (NORMAL) RICH TEXT 'Body' (NORMAL) FILE ATTACHMENT 'att1.com' << BW.556 >> File size: 559 bytes Host type: MSDOS Compression: OFF Attributes: PUBLIC READ-WRITE File flags: 0 Created: 01/30/98 08:44:28 AM Modified: 01/30/98 08:44:28 AM Status: Removed Scanner: McAfee Scan DLL (version 3030) found BW.556

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FBI tells Congress encryption "is a critical problem"
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:46:48 -0800 (PST) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: FBI tells Congress encryption "is a critical problem" ******** The nation's top cops aren't happy about Americans using data-scrambling software to shield their correspondence from prying eyes. Today the deputy director of the FBI told the Senate Intelligence committee that encryption "is a critical problem" that Congress needs to solve -- presumably by banning email and other programs that his G-men can't crack. (http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1385,00.html) Bob Bryant warned the committee that "the widespread use of robust non-key recovery encryption will ultimately devastate our ability to fight crime and prevent terrorism." Which is precisely what Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb) claims he's concerned about. He said "if we want to make the American people continue to feel safe," the National Security Agency and the FBI "have to be able to somehow deal with not just the complexity of signals, but increasingly encrypted signals that are impossible for us to break." Not surprisingly, the question of why the FBI and NSA should have the ability to listen in on any conversation was left unasked. --By Declan McCullagh/Washington (declan(a)well.com)

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SF Chron article on Feinstein and Internet
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A reporter (jswartz(a)sfgate.com) is writing an article about Dianne Feinstein and her puzzling stance on high tech issues, given the state she represents. She's taken very odd positions on encryption, Net-gambling, privacy regulations that put burdens on business, and of course her bomb-making ban. If you have Feinstein stories or opinions, I'm sure he'd love to hear from you. -Declan

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FUA - GRAND OPENING
by Freakazoid - The Evning Hacker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Undergrounders, Hackers, Crackers or what ever you are! I have now disigded the opening date for Freakazoid`s Underground ARchive It will open 1998-02-03 - The 2nd of Mars. It will contain material that is high rated on the goverments hate list`s. So why dont come visit os and check it out. Now you can read about the development on the site. So come visit us. http://freakazoid.simplenet.com -- -- -- -- END OF FREAKAZOID TRANSMITION -- -- -- --

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Govt. to overhaul domain names [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > GOVERNMENT TO UNVEIL PLAN TO OVERHAUL INTERNET DOMAIN NAMES > > graphic January 29, 1998 > Web posted at: 6:53 p.m. EDT (1853 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Clinton administration's eagerly awaited > proposal for overhauling the Internet's naming system and phasing > out U.S. government involvement will be released Friday, the > Commerce Department said Thursday. > > The department's National Telecommunications and Information > Administration unit said it will post the plan on the World Wide Web > at http://www.ntia.doc.gov. > > The plan, originally expected in November, seeks to resolve the > controversy over management of some of the Internet's most basic > functions, including the assignment and registration of names for > Web sites. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Michigan upset - children fingerprinted w/o permission [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > > CHILDREN'S FINGERPRINTING RILES MICHIGAN PARENTS > > fingerprint graphic January 29, 1998 > Web posted at: 3:51 p.m. EST (2051 GMT) > > DETROIT (AP) -- Parents and legal experts have identified a problem > with Michigan standardized testing -- 122,000 fifth-graders provided > their fingerprints without permission. > > The public-school children had to fill out a "Fingerprint > Investigation Journal" as part of the science segment on the > Michigan Educational Assessment Program. > > "It's offensive," said Andrea Lang of St. Clair Shores, who learned > that her 10-year-old daughter provided fingerprints for the test > last week. "It's an invasion of privacy. Only criminals get their > fingerprints taken." > > The fingerprint journal was merely a hands-on experiment designed to > make the science portion of the test more interesting, Peter Bunton > of the MEAP office, said Wednesday. > > State law says that with few exceptions, children's fingerprints > can't be obtained without parents' permission. Bunton said he was > unaware of the law. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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The source code of corrected RC2
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a mistake in the source code of RC2 that I did a mailbox on January 21 '1998. The following is the source code of corrected RC2. RC2 C++ source code #include <string.h> #include <assert.h> void RC2Keyschedule::schedule( unsigned short K[64], const unsigned char L[128], unsigned T8, unsigned TM ) { unsigned char x; unsigned i; static const unsigned char PITABLE[256] = { 217,120,249,196, 25,221,181,237, 40,233,253,121, 74,160,216,157, 198,126, 55,131, 43,118, 83,142, 98, 76,100,136, 68,139,251,162, 23,154, 89,245,135,179, 79, 19, 97, 69,109,141, 9,129,125, 50, 189,143, 64,235,134,183,123, 11,240,149, 33, 34, 92,107, 78,130, 84,214,101,147,206, 96,178, 28,115, 86,192, 20,167,140,241,220, 18,117,202, 31, 59,190,228,209, 66, 61,212, 48,163, 60,182, 38, 111,191, 14,218, 70,105, 7, 87, 39,242, 29,155,188,148, 67, 3, 248, 17,199,246,144,239, 62,231, 6,195,213, 47,200,102, 30,215, 8,232,234,222,128, 82,238,247,132,170,114,172, 53, 77,106, 42, 150, 26,210,113, 90, 21, 73,116, 75,159,208, 94, 4, 24,164,236, 194,224, 65,110, 15, 81,203,204, 36,145,175, 80,161,244,112, 57, 153,124, 58,133, 35,184,180,122,252, 2, 54, 91, 37, 85,151, 49, 45, 93,250,152,227,138,146,174, 5,223, 41, 16,103,108,186,201, 211, 0,230,207,225,158,168, 44, 99, 22, 1, 63, 88,226,137,169, 13, 56, 52, 27,171, 51,255,176,187, 72, 12, 95,185,177,205, 46, 197,243,219, 71,229,165,156,119, 10,166, 32,104,254,127,193,173 }; assert(len > 0 && len <= 128); assert(bits <= 1024); if (!bits) bits = 1024; memcpy(xkey, key, len); for (i = 0; i < 128; i++) { L[i] = PITABLE[L[i-1] + L[i-T]]; } T8 = (T1+7) >> 3; TM = 255 MOD 2^(8 + T1 - 8*T8); L[128-T8] = PITABLE[L[128-T8] & TM]; for (i = 0; i < 127-T8; i++) { L[i] = PITABLE[L[i+1] XOR L[i+T8]]; }; i = 63; K[i] = L[2*i] + 256*L[2*i+1]; }; void RC2Encryption::ProcessBlock( const unsigned short K[64], ) { unsigned R3, R2, R1, R0, i; for (i = 0; i < 16; i++) { R0 += (R1 & ~R3) + (R2 & R3) + K[4*i+0]; R0 = R0 << 1; R1 += (R2 & ~R0) + (R3 & R0) + K[4*i+1]; R1 = R1 << 2; R2 += (R3 & ~R1) + (R0 & R1) + K[4*i+2]; R2 = R2 << 3; R3 += (R0 & ~R2) + (R1 & R2) + K[4*i+3]; R3 = R3 << 5; if (i == 4 || i == 10) { R0 += K[R3 & 63]; R1 += K[R0 & 63]; R2 += K[R1 & 63]; R3 += K[R2 & 63]; } } void RC2Decryption::ProcessBlock( const unsigned short K[64], ) { unsigned R3, R2, R1, R0, i; for (i = 0; i < 16; i++) { R3 = R3 << 5; R3 += (R0 & ~R2) + (R1 & R2) + K[4*i-3]; R2 = R2 << 3; R2 += (R3 & ~R1) + (R0 & R1) + K[4*i-2]; R1 = R1 << 2; R1 += (R2 & ~R0) + (R3 & R0) + K[4*i-1]; R0 = R0 << 1; R0 += (R1 & ~R3) + (R2 & R3) + K[4*i-0]; if (i == 4 || i == 10) { R3 -= K[R2 & 63]; R2 -= K[R1 & 63]; R1 -= K[R0 & 63]; R0 -= K[R3 & 63]; } }

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Re: Kooks and their Kookies
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I have used Eric's Cookie Jar proxy to filter out cookies (it's located at > http://www.lne.com/ericm/cookie_jar/ ) and modified it to replace > advertisement images with a small jpeg image of a tin of spam. (Cookie > Jar's behavior is to simply close the connection which results in a > "broken" icon in my browser. The user is unable to discern the difference > between a broken picture vs. a piece of intentionally ignored spam.) I did > it by returning the spam can instead of an advertising banner when > requested, but I probably could have accomplished the same thing by > modifying the incoming HTML to have an IMG SRC of Junkbuster, which I've been playing with, too has just a list of URL patterns that are blocked. When it encounters such an URL, it displays this hardcoded spiel: char CBLOCK[] = "HTTP/1.0 202 Request for blocked URL\n" "Pragma: no-cache\n" "Last-Modified: Thu Jul 31, 1997 07:42:22 pm GMT\n" "Expires: Thu Jul 31, 1997 07:42:22 pm GMT\n" "Content-Type: text/html\n\n" "<html>\n" "<head>\n" "<title>Internet Junkbuster: Request for blocked URL</title>\n" "</head>\n" WHITEBG "<center>" "<a href=http://internet.junkbuster.com/ij-blocked-url?%s+%s+%s>" BANNER "</a>" "</center>" "</body>\n" "</html>\n" ; Notice something unpleasant!!! See the 2 %s's? They are filled with 1) the URL you tried to access, 2) the pattern from the blockfile that matched. But they're not just displayed in your browser; only if you click on the junkbuster logo, they are passed to a cgi script at the junkbusters site, which displays them and possibly logs them. Not nice at all. I'd much prefer a filtering proxy that allowed different actions for different patterns in the block file: at the very least, the choices should be "404 not found", "403 verbotten", a 1x1 jpg, and a user-specified replacement text/url. > http://localhost/spam.jpg. I was really trying to write code to eliminate > the entire spam anchor, but found that identifying the matching start and > end of the spam anchor (in PERL) was more work than it was worth, and was > breaking some HTML. The ability to edit the incoming text and pictures to delete embedded ads would be awfully nice. Consider for example the html dynamically generated by wired's cgi script when you access http://stocks.hotbox.com. (take a look at it). Wouldn't it be nice if the proxy could be told to delete or replace all the text between  and ??? Occasionally an ad is embedded in a picture together with some useful information. Take a look at http://www.bloomberg.com/gifs/iview.gif. it has both useful information that should be displayed and sponsor informaion that should be mercilessly censored - replaced by a user-specified graphic or at least a black rectangle. > Anyway, yes, keep posting your lists of evil URLs. I have no moral problem > with trashing those unwanted ads. Instead of spamming the mailing list, I've put up a web page at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/6354 (let's see if they pull the plug on it) > >Would there be any interest if I put an anootated netscape cookie file > >(cypherpunks cookie potluck) someplace like geocitie.com? I have also placed some cookies for sharing on them same web site. > >Also a composite blockfile for junkbusters and other filtering proxies. > > > >A really neat feature for ad-filtering proxies would be to be able to > >place a specified picture (or at least a black rectangle) over a jpg or > >gif file being received from a URL that matches a specified pattern. > >I'm not sufficiently handy with graphics file formats to tell how easy > >this would be. Death to the Usenet Cabal! --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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17 Dec '03

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Washing your clothes is hazardous to the Earth!
by fuahuolee91＠prodigy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Chris Lewis's death?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Thu Jan 29 20:29:21 1998 > > Information Security (if that is his real name) writes: > > > vznuri(a)netcom.com "Vladimir Z. Nuri" (nym for Dr. Dim) > > You mean, Vlad is Larry Detweiler and Dmitri Vulis in the same time? > Hmmm ... The above message was sent by Dr. Dim. (He has a natural aversion to spelling his own name correctly when pretending to post as not Dr. Dim.) And, yes, 'vznuri(a)netcom.com' is a nym for Dr. Dim: just check out his posts at DejaNews...Dr. Dim is a math phud, and "Vladimir" was "plonked" by Dr. Dim immediately after I said it was a nym. ---guy Dr. Dim had an infamous alias "Vladimir Fomin" too.

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Re: tell me what you think of this RC2 C++ source code
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:06:22 -0500 # Message-ID: <7f7f70c39f30fd17d32c41b5bddb97b3(a)anon.efga.org> # Subject: tell me what you think of this RC2 C++ source code # To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com # # tell me what you think of this RC2 C++ source code It sucked...there's an error. ---guy ;-)

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Re: Programming
by ОЕМ Пользователь 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Cyberpunks !! I have just sent this letter and i do not what to do i would like to become a very good programmer and i don't know where i must start from so be so kind and send me any letters if you can about basics in programming with Assembler Good Bye!!! my email: kes21(a)chat.ru

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New Rules on Classified Info
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Department of Defense has published today three interim final rules on protection of classified information (apparently issued confidentially months ago): 32 CFR Part 147, Personnel Security Policies for Granting Access to Classified Information 32 CFR Part 148, National Policy on Reciprocity of Facilities and Guidelines for Implementation of Reciprocity 32 CFR Part 149, National Policy on Technical Surveillance Countermeasures See at: http://jya.com/32cfr147.txt (56K) http://jya.com/32cfr148.txt (18K) http://jya.com/32cfr149.txt (7K)

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VIRUS WARNING:
by Arturo Grapa Ysunza 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: hackers and minick
by SteffenHo＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 98-01-29 15:44:07 EST, kes21(a)chat.ru writes: >Hello there!!! I send this letter because i want to know anything about >hackers Kevin >Mitnick please send more information about these topics my E-mail >kes21(a)chat.ru >www.mitnick.com or www.kevinmitnick.com hola, a hompage over his downfall "http://www.takedown.com" and you can always read the book. "The Smaurai and the Cyberthief"

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EU considers letting police snoop on Internet [fwd infobeat]
by Vipul Ved Prakash 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** EU considers letting police snoop on Internet European Union justice ministers agreed Thursday to consider letting police snoop on Internet users as a measure to tackle organized crime. Police, who fear the Internet is being used by international criminals for money laundering and other crimes, are currently barred from tapping into the computer messages. The ministers, gathered for an informal meeting in Birmingham, England, agreed police should be given new powers but added they should be tightly restricted so as not to damage the rapidly growing computer industry. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=11230876-266 -- #!/usr/bin/perl eval unpack u,'J)",](DIU<W0@06YO=&AE<B!097)L($AA8VME<EQN(CMP<FEN="!T:6UE'; ========================================================================== Vipul Ved Prakash | - Electronic Security & Crypto mail(a)vipul.net | - Web Objects 91 11 2233328 | - PERL Development 198 Madhuban IP Extension | - Linux & Open Systems Delhi, INDIA 110 092 | - Networked Virtual Spaces

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stupid test (virus warning)
by x 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

.... you get an email from .ru address, with small .com file attached. .... you think: "I shall run it!" .... you flunk. DUUUUHHHH. Hey, Mr. Lame .ru: give it up.

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Re: Chaining ciphers
by jim＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Jim Gillogly skribis: > > One word of caution (which should be obvious, but can't hurt to repeat it): > > if you chain ciphers (e.g. DES | IDEA | 3DES | CAST | Blowfish), be sure to > > use separate keys for each of them; otherwise breaking the last one will > > give the key to the whole lot. > Matthew Ghio rispondis: > Only if the cryptanalyst knows that the decryption of the last one was > correct, which shouldn't be possible without also decrypting all the other > layers. If the person strapping those systems together writes them from scratch and the penultimate cipher gives a flat distribution, then I agree 100%. However, many (most?) standalone encryption programs will put a magic number or other identification at the beginning (e.g. encrypted PKZIP) or will do a sanity check that actually tells you whether you've decrypted with the right key, whether you see garbage or not (e.g. EAY's stand-alone 'idea', 'des', etc.). PGP also has distinctive headers, I think. In the world of existing cipher packages it's usually possible to tell what you've got. Assume Kerckhoff's principle, of course: the attacker knows which packages you're using and which order you're doing them in. Jim Gillogly Hevensday, 9 Solmath S.R. 1998, 17:52 12.19.4.15.19, 10 Cauac 17 Muan, Fourth Lord of Night

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17 Dec '03

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Hackers Invade Houston - Houston Hacker Tour
by Billy Brittingham 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Houston Hacker Tour Houston March 3-4, 1998 Okay, you convinced your organization to embrace an open systems environment. You assured everyone that you and your colleagues were on top of thesecurity angle and you've make great strides. So why are you still nervous? Because paranoia and vigilance are the heart and soul of corporate security. And, whether you're a CIO or a security analyst, whether you manage your organization's entire security strategy or a small piece of it, you know the threats. You know there are countless points of vulnerability. You know a breach at any one of those points could be crippling. You know "100% secure" is a myth. Unfortunately, they know too - the people lurking outside your firewall, the people tapping into your phone lines, the people diving into your dumpsters. They're patient. They're persistent. And they'll find a way in if you let your guard down. You know you can't eliminate vulnerability, but you can reduce it. The question is, how? Find the answers at this interactive two-day session where Cambridge Technology Partners will introduce you to the enemy, their methodologies, and the steps you can take to protect your enterprise. What IS IT? Cambridge Technology Partners is pleased to present the New Hack Tour, a two-day "get-smart" session where you can go head-to-head with leading security analysts, security practitioners, and yes, hackers. Together, you'll explore liability issues and organizational behaviors, learn underground tools of the hacker trade, and discuss attack strategies and detection/protection methodologies. WHO SHOULD ATTEND? Security touches everyone in your organization - from the ground floor of ITto the executive suite. Cambridge recognizes this. The New Hack Tour is uniquely designed for diverse audiences - from technical engineers and system architects to CIOs. In fact, the tour features two tracks, one for the people battling in the network trenches and one for the people who own overall security strategy and are battling to improve it. HOW DOES IT WORK? During the session, participants from across the corporate landscape will: * Day One: Address - in one of two tracks - the micro- or macro-level security issues that directly impact their organizations and their careers. * Day Two: Collaborate with hackers in one comprehensive track to build new and more effective models of corporate security. Day One AGENDA Track One * Setting the Scene * Why is Security Important? * Who are the Players (Hackers, Crackers, and Phone Phreaks)? * Is Security Futile? * What's at Stake? Addressing Liability * Case Study: Anatomy of an Internet Crime * Identify and Discuss Your Security Nightmares * Case Study: Anatomy of a Corporate Security Plan Day ONE AGENDA Track Two * Setting the Scene * Why is Security Important? * Who are the Players (Hackers, Crackers, and Phone Phreaks)? * Is Security Futile? * Identifying the Holes: A Primer on TCP/IP and O/S Internals * Underground Tools * Attack Strategies * Detection and Protection Day two AGENDA Tracks One & Two Meet the Enemy Panel Enemy Perspective: The State of Corporate Insecurity Point and Counterpoint: Participant Driven Q&A with the Enemy Panel Silicon-Based Security Solutions: Architectures, Technologies, and Tools Carbon-Based Security Solutions: Organizational Structures and Behaviors PROGRAM FEES & REGISTRATION Program fees are $995 covering registration, program materials, continental breakfasts, breaks, and lunches. For more information or to register, contact: Billy Brittingham Cambridge Technology Partners 304 Vassar Street Cambridge, MA 02139 617-374-8580 wbritt(a)ctp.com ABOUT CAMBRIDGE TECHNOLOGY PARTNERS Cambridge Technology Partners is an international management consulting and systems integration firm. Our unique approach has fundamentally reinvented the way business solutions are delivered. We combine strategic consulting, IT strategy, process innovation and implementation, custom and package software deployment, network services, and training to rapidly deliver end-to-end business systems that create immediate bottom-line impact for our clients. We do it fast. We do it for a fixed price. And we do it on time. TIMED AGENDA - HOUSTON Tuesday, March 3 9:00 - 9:15 Welcome & Introductory Remarks Mike Hunziker, Cambridge Technology Partners 9:15 - 10:30 Opening Level-Set * Why is Security Important? * Who are the players (i.e. hackers, crackers, phone phreaks)? * Is Security Futile? Yobie Benjamin, Cambridge Technology Partners 10:30 - 10:45 Break Track One 11:00 - 12:00 What's At Stake? Liability And Legal Issues Addressed James Asperger, Esq. and Christine C. Ewell, Esq., O'Melveny and Myers 12:00 - 1:00 Lunch 1:00 - 2:00 Case Study: Anatomy of an Internet Crime TBD Agent, F.B.I. 2:00 - 2:45 Case Study: Internet Security and the Banking Industry Anita Ward, Senior Vice President, TCB/Chase Manhattan 2:45 - 3:00 Break 3:00 - 3:45 Breakout Exercise - Top Ten Security Nightmares 3:45 - 4:15 Report Backs & Discussion 4:15 - 5:00 Case Study: VISA International Bobby Colquitt, Vice President, VISA International 5:00 Adjourn Track Two 10:45 - 12:15 Identifying the Holes: A Brief Primer on TCP/IP and O/S Internals Peter Shipley, Network Security Associates 12:15 - 1:15 Lunch 1:15 - 2:45 Underground Tools and the Attack Marc Fabro, Secure Computing 2:45 - 3:00 Break 3:00 - 5:00 Detection and Protection Bob Keyes, Cambridge Technology Partners Peter Shipley, Network Security Associates 5:00 Adjourn Wednesday, March 4 9:00 - 9:30 Meet the Enemy Panel Wyatt Earp, B$tring, Yobie Benjamin, Peter Shipley, Dr. Who 9:30 - 10:30 Enemy Perspectives: The State of Corporate [In]Security Wyatt Earp, B$tring, Dr. Who, Benjamin, Shipley 10:30 - 10:45 Break 10:45 - 12:00 Point & Counterpoint: Participant Driven Q&A With Enemy Panel Wyatt Earp, B$tring, Benjamin, Dr. Who, Shipley 12:00 - 1:00 Lunch 1:00 - 2:30 Silicon-Based Security Solutions: Architectures, Technologies & Tools - Marc Fabro, Secure Computing 2:30 - 2:45 Break 2:45 - 3:45 Carbon-Based Solutions: Organizational Behavior and Structure Phillip Parker, Former Director for Counter-Intelligence, FBI 3:45 - 4:15 Closing Thoughts Mike Hunziker, Cambridge Technology Partners

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RebaNet Exclusive
by Mail 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For a limited time you can get a Reba T-shirt for only $10.00 ($16.00 value). For more information on this special offer, go to the following Internet address: http://www.reba.com/RebaNetExclusive Copyright 1998 Starstruck Entertainment, All rights reserved.

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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:34:15 -0500 > From: ghio(a)temp0203.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > > Because the thermodynamics assume a *closed* model. The base assumption of > > your model is that it is closed. This means that not only the mirror, and > > the two focii are in the system, but also the light source. When taken as a > > whole the entropy is constant. Now if you allow the light to pass through > > the mirror from outside an initial axiomatic assumption, a closed system, > > is broken. > > Assume that the mirrors completely surround the objects, and that the only > light source is IR thermal radiation, and that the mirrors are insulated > from the outsite world, so we can assume a closed system. > > By the laws of optics, one focus should get warmer than the other, but by > the law of entropy they must remain at the same temperature. That's the > paradox. No, the total energy of the *system* stays constant, not individual componants which are free to heat up or cool down as the energy in the system is moved around. The total entropy of the lenses, the cold foci, and the warm foci are what stays constant. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While the US Government tries to whip up public opinion for the mass murder of more Iraqis, filling the press with inflammatory statements, most of which are based on no new information, and the inability to prove negatives, newly declassified records demonstrate that such antics have been used by the government before. Should the US, claiming to represent "the will of the whole world," launch an unprovoked military strike against Iraq, based on some vague claim that Iraq has not had its industrial infrastructure disemboweled to the point where it will never again be able to perform even the simplest chemical or biological laboratory work, I would hope that all thinking non-sheep in this country would avail themselves of every covert opportunity to monkey-wrench the US War Machine. UN economic sanctions demanded by the US against Iraq have already directly resulted in the deaths of over 1,000,000 Iraqis of all ages. ----- WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's military leaders signed off on a scheme in 1963 to provoke Fidel Castro into attacking the United States so that retaliating U.S. forces could squash him ``with speed, force and determination,'' newly declassified records show. The records were among 600 pages opened at the National Archives by a government agency, the Assassination Records Review Board, to help researchers into John F. Kennedy's Nov. 22, 1963, assassination explore the possibility of a Cuban connection and to ``put the assassination into its historical context.'' Some Cuban involvement has been theorized because of slain suspect Lee Harvey Oswald's association with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. ``These military records further demonstrate how high on the U.S. government's radar screen getting rid of the Castro government was in the early 1960s,'' said John R. Tunheim, a federal judge in Minnesota and the board's chairman. The documents showed that in February 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Deputy Defense Secretary Roswell Gilpatric approved a plan to ``lure or provoke Castro, or an uncontrollable subordinate, into an overt hostile reaction against the United States.'' The attack ``would in turn create the justification for the U.S. to not only retaliate but destroy Castro with speed, force and determination,'' the memo said. It was not clear where along the chain of command the plan eventually was squelched. But by the following year, another Pentagon policy paper discussed a new scheme to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States so that the United States could retaliate. Five scenarios were spelled out, foreseeing either real or faked Cuban attacks on a U.S. ally. One of them: ``A contrived 'Cuban' attack on an OAS member could be set up, and the attacked state could be urged to take measures of self-defense and request assistance from the U.S. and OAS.'' The paper expressed confidence that ``the U.S. could almost certainly obtain the necessary two-thirds support among OAS members for collective action against Cuba.'' The planners got cold feet, the documents show. They feared leaks. ``Any of the contrived situations described above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty,'' a memo said. ``If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation, it should be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most high trusted covert personnel.'' The documents were the second set about Washington's preoccupation with getting rid of Castro to be made public by the board. Late last year, 1,500 pages showed that military planners had come up with a variety of dirty tricks intended to harass or humiliate Castro. One prescribed flooding Cuba with faked photos of an overweight Castro ``with two beauties'' and ``a table brimming over with the most delectable Cuban food'' to make the point that Castro's lifestyle was richer than that of most Cubans. In the new set of papers, one prepared by the Defense Department's Caribbean Survey Group and dated Feb. 19, 1962, wanted to make Castro so fearful of an imminent U.S. attack that he would call up the Cuban militia. The purpose was ``a complete disruption of the available labor force'' for the 1962 sugar cane harvest. Another, a psychological warfare proposal dated Feb. 12, 1963, proposed the creation of an imaginary Cuban resistance leader. The paper called him ``our Cuban Kilroy.'' ``After a period of time, all unexplained incidents and actions for which credit has not been seized by some other exile group would automatically be ascribed to our imaginary friend,'' the paper said. ``At some point in time it could be leaked that the U.S. is, in fact, supporting this imaginary person.'' Eventually, the paper speculated, ``a member of the resistance in Cuba may gain sufficient stature to assume or to be given the title of this imaginary leader.'' The Pentagon documents were written after the disastrous April 1961 invasion of Cuba's Bay of Pigs by Cuban exiles trained, armed and directed by the United States. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd) > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:43:31 -0600 (CST) > Forwarded message: > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:34:15 -0500 > > From: ghio(a)temp0203.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > > > > Because the thermodynamics assume a *closed* model. The base assumption of > > > your model is that it is closed. This means that not only the mirror, and > > > the two focii are in the system, but also the light source. When taken as a > > > whole the entropy is constant. Now if you allow the light to pass through > > > the mirror from outside an initial axiomatic assumption, a closed system, > > > is broken. > > > > Assume that the mirrors completely surround the objects, and that the only > > light source is IR thermal radiation, and that the mirrors are insulated > > from the outsite world, so we can assume a closed system. > > > > By the laws of optics, one focus should get warmer than the other, but by > > the law of entropy they must remain at the same temperature. That's the > > paradox. > > No, the total energy of the *system* stays constant, not individual > componants which are free to heat up or cool down as the energy in the > system is moved around. The total entropy of the lenses, the cold foci, > and the warm foci are what stays constant. A couple of other points that I should have added. Your base assumption that light and heat are not the same thing is faulty. They are in fact identical so to speak of the 'law of optics' and the 'laws of thermodynamics' as different things is in error. What happens in the *real* world is that a point is reached where the amount of energy emitted by each foci exactly balances the amount of energy received by each foci. We in effect reach thermodynamic equilibrium, better known as heat death. This term means that the minimal level of disorder has been reached by the system under study and without outside intervention no change, outside quantum fluctuations, will take place. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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FC: Letter from high-tech CEOs to Feinstein: back off!
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from Declan's list >From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> >Subject: FC: Letter from high-tech CEOs to Feinstein: back off! >X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ > >=== > > January 15, 1998 >> >> >> The Honorable Dianne Feinstein >> United States Senate >> Washington, DC 21510 >> >> >> Dear Senator Feinstein, >> >> As Chief Executive Officers of leading California companies, we were >> disappointed by your >> November 5 comments at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing implying >> that >> California companies >> are ambivalent regarding your position on encryption policy. We are >> anything but >> ambivalent about an >> issue that will have a profound impact on our companies, our >> customers, the >> citizens of our country, >> and our nation itself. >> >> We are in the midst of a transformation of our society into an era >> where >> information technology is >> affecting and improving all of our lives and all of our businesses. >> Without >> effective security we put >> at risk the confidentiality of our intellectual property, the public's >> privacy >> and the nation's critical >> infrastructure. And none of us will be able to take full advantage of >> the >> opportunities being presented >> to us by the promise of global electronic commerce. >> >> And consider the burgeoning threat of personal identity theft. As >> emphasized in >> the September 1997 >> issue of Consumer Reports, "the crime is one of the fastest-growing in >> the >> nation, according to the >> California District Attorneys Association. Identity thieves make off >> with >> billions of dollars a year...." >> Strong encryption with no systemic vulnerability is the best >> protection against >> such damaging fraud. >> Indeed, the credit-card industry, as you heard in testimony before the >> Judiciary >> Subcommittee on >> Terrorism and Technology on September 3, soon will be offering >> publicly a very >> sophisticated system >> for secure credit-card transactions over the Internet. While the >> system will be >> able to reconstruct >> transactions soon after the fact in response to legitimate >> law-enforcement >> requests, it does not employ >> keys and would not comply with the kind of mandate contemplated by the >> FBI. >> >> Mandatory key recovery policies, domestically and for export, will >> make the >> United States a second >> class nation in the Information Age. >> >> We are very sympathetic to the concerns of law enforcement, and we >> greatly >> respect your continuing >> support for them. In fact, if we believed that the policy of >> mandatory key >> recovery could successfully >> prevent criminals from having access to unbreakable encryption, we >> might support >> that position. >> However, this policy cannot succeed, and in the process of failing it >> will >> sacrifice the leading role that >> the State of California is playing in the international economy. Even >> more >> important, perhaps, the >> policy will create new law enforcement and national security >> challenges because >> U.S. corporations and >> government officials will be forced to rely on unproven foreign >> encryption >> technology. Maintaining >> United States leadership in the development of state-of-the-art >> cryptography is >> in the best interests of >> U.S. national security and law enforcement. California companies and >> industries >> nationwide are >> united in opposition to domestic and export controls that jeopardize >> this >> leadership. >> >> California companies need your support to be able to meet this new day >> with a >> strong and competitive >> encryption industry. We urge you to meet regularly with >> representatives from >> our companies, in >> Washington D.C. and in California, to discuss this issue further. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Christopher Allen >> President and CEO >> Consensus Development Corporation >> >> Bill Archey >> CEO >> American Electronics Association >> >> Jim Barksdale >> CEO >> Netscape Communications, Inc. >> >> Carol Bartz >> CEO >> Autodesk, Inc. >> >> George Bell >> CEO >> Excite, Inc. >> >> Eric Benhamou >> Chairman and CEO >> 3Com Corporation >> >> Jim Bidzos >> CEO >> RSA Data Security, Inc. >> >> Philip Bowles >> President >> Bowles Farming Co., Inc. >> >> Steve Case >> Chairman and CEO >> America Online, Inc. >> >> Wilfred J. Corrigan >> Chairman and CEO >> LSI Logic >> >> Thomas B. Crowley >> President & CEO >> Crowley Maritime Corporation >> >> Philip Dunkelberger >> CEO >> PGP >> >> Judy Estrin >> President & CEO >> Precept Software, Inc. >> >> David W. Garrison >> CEO >> Netcom On-Line Communication Services, Inc. >> >> Karl Geng >> President and CEO >> Siemens Business Communication Systems, Inc. >> Santa Clara, Calif. >> >> Charles M. Geschke >> President >> Adobe Systems, Inc. >> >> Brian L. Halla >> President, Chairman & CEO >> National Semiconductor, Inc. >> >> Gordon Mayer >> CEO and Chairman >> Geoworks Corporation >> >> Scott McNealy >> Chairman and CEO >> Sun Microsystems, Inc. >> >> >> >> Ed Mueller >> Predident and CEO >> Pacific Bell >> >> Kenneth J. Orton >> President and CEO >> Preview Travel, Inc. >> >> Willem P. Roelandts >> CEO >> Xilinx, Inc. >> >> Eric Schmidt >> CEO >> Novell, Inc. >> >> Tom Steding >> CEO >> Red Creek >> >> Deb Triant >> CEO >> Checkpoint >> >> David E. 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My apology
by Roger J Jones 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim, I stand corrected, This must be Chem-Punks Roger J. Jones

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Re: US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Eric Cordian <emc(a)wire.insync.net> > Subject: Re: US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:14:58 -0600 (CST) > WHGIII writes: > > > Grow-up! The world is a dangerious place with dangerious people in it. > > Iraq is one of those places just like Cuba was back in the '60's. > > Cuba is a pimple-sized island which in no way threatens the large > continent next to it. Perhaps not, but those Russian made and maintaned atomic ICBM's parked 90 miles off Florida certainly did... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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More on ISDN Features
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is from UK Crypto, where the ISDN-snoop part of the EuroParl report on technologies for political control was cited and asked if true. Perhaps Jim Choate, Steve Schear and others might clarify. Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:09:40 +0000 To: ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk From: John Brooks <jbrooks(a)peeras.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [vin(a)shore.net: EuroParl Report - NSA, Crypto, Liberty & Trade] >A draft ("consultation version") of a report by the European >Parliament's Office for Scientific and Technological Option Assessment >(STOA) entitled "AN APPRAISAL OF TECHNOLOGIES OF POLITICAL >CONTROL" has been submitted to the EuroParl's Civil Liberties and >Interior Committee. But this is all (or 99 percent) complete bollocks. >"[...] Some systems even lend themselves to a dual role as a national >interceptions network. ??? > For example the message switching system used on digital >exchanges like System X in the UK supports an Integrated >Services Digital Network (ISDN) Protocol. This allows digital >devices, e.g. fax to share the system with existing lines. The ISDN >subset is defined in their documents as "Signalling CCITT1-series >interface for ISDN access". I think this means I series - which are all public docs... >What is not widely known is that built in to the international CCITT >protocol is the ability to take phones 'off hook' Yes - ok. If you have a delinquent ISDN switch AND the totalitarian state wants to bug you AND YOU choose to use a handset which DOES NOT break the analogue path between the microphone and the ISDN NTU / TA (all standard analogue phones break the circuit, AFAIK. It's only the speakerphone gadgets that could be subverted.) Then I suppose this is possible. But who gives a s**t about the .1% of vulnerable phones. And it would be dead easy to mod them to defeat any such attempt. There are loads of easier ways to mount covert surveillance than screwing up the phone system! >and listen into conversations occurring near the phone, >without the user being aware that it is happening." ISDN is NOT a 'message switching protocol', and there is none as such on Sys X and Y, which use SS7 for inter-switch signalling anyway. The ISDN interfaces and service are only defined for the ends of various types of subscriber line, as far as I remember. What happens inside the provider network is up to the provider and is not ISDN. I'm much more concerned about the Echelon system which was (finally) reported in the Sunday Telegraph just before Xmas. This system, it is alleged, can intercept and look for keywords in ALL international comms traffic. I believe this also gets a mention in the Europarliament report. Vote early and often for freely available strong encryption!! (whatever JR mutters about 'doing him out of his livelihood' :=) ) Key escrow is another example of complete bollocks, IMHO. Cheers -jb -- John Brooks - Consultant in Data Communications, Networking and Energy Systems South Croydon, 7,CR2 7HN, UK Tel: (44) 181 681 1595 Fax: (44) 181 649 7536 The opinions expressed here are mine but are not offered as professional advice. ---------- BTW, provocative commentary on the EuroParl report by Vin McLellan, which is the source of the UK Crypto thread, is available at: http://jya.com/nsa-etc-nf.htm

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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:36:28 -0500 > From: ghio(a)temp0200.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > Here's something to ponder: > > Consider two objects initially at the same temperature. One is at the > focus of a hemispherical mirror. An elliptical mirror with both objects > at its foci encloses the remaining space. > > Because of the spherical mirror, the first object reabsorbs most of its > heat lost by radiation, but most of the second object's radiated heat is > reflected upon the first. Hence the first object becomes warmer relative > to the second. > > The entropy here appears to decrease, but according to thermodynamics that > is impossible. Can anyone explain how it is that the total entropy would > not decrease? Perpetual motion machines built on violations of thermodynamics involving hemispherical and ellipsoidal mirrors have been around for years. They don't work. The objects do not change temperature. Trace a ray from each object. In every direction, it hits an object which is at exactly the same temperature as it is. It may be itself, or it may be the other object. But in each case, the temperature is the same in all directions. The "sky" is the same temperature as the object, so it does not change temperature.

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Re: US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba
by Joe Acosta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well Well it was during Cuban Missile Crisis that the small pimple-sized Island brought us to the highest state of Def-Com ever (one level before actually launching an attack). At that point it time it was deadly serious; fortunately JFK and Krucheiv (sorry for murdering the spelling) where able to work something out and avoid a catastrophe. Joe Acosta At 05:14 PM 1/30/98 -0600, Eric Cordian wrote: >WHGIII writes: > >> Grow-up! The world is a dangerious place with dangerious people in it. >> Iraq is one of those places just like Cuba was back in the '60's. > >Cuba is a pimple-sized island which in no way threatens the large >continent next to it. > >-- >Eric Michael Cordian 0+ >O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division >"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" > >

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History of radio regulation; scrutiny of elected officials
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: History of radio regulation; scrutiny of elected officials Attached below are excerpts from two Supreme Court cases. The first, NBC v. U.S. (1943), I read this week for a communications law class I'm auditing. The portion I'll include here deals with the history of radio (and I'm aware that there are revisionist histories that appear to be more accurate, or at least tell more of the truth). But I couldn't help thinking of the domain name disputes while reading it. Excerpt from National Broadcasting Co. v. U.S. (1943) ...The number of stations multiplied so rapidly, however, that by November, 1925, there were almost 600 stations in the country, and there were 175 applications for new stations. Every channel in the standard broadcast band was, by that time, already occupied by at least one station, and many by several. The new stations could be accommodated only by extending the standard broadcast band, at the expense of the other types of services, or by imposing still greater limitations upon time and power. The National Radio Conference which met in November, 1925, opposed both of these methods and called upon Congress to remedy the situation through legislation. The Secretary of Commerce was powerless to deal with the situation. It had been held that he could not deny a license to an otherwise legally qualified applicant on the ground that the proposed station would interfere with existing private or Government stations. And on April 16, 1926, an Illinois district court held that the Secretary had no power to impose restrictions as to frequency, power, and hours of operation, and that a station's use of a frequency not assigned to it was not a violation of the Radio Act of 1912. This was followed on July 8, 1926, by an opinion of Acting Attorney General Donovan that the Secretary of Commerce had no power, under the Radio Act of 1912, to regulate the power, frequency or hours of operation of stations. The next day the Secretary of Commerce issued a statement abandoning all his efforts to regulate radio and urging that the stations undertake self-regulation. But the plea of the Secretary went unheeded. From, July, 1926, to February 23, 1927, when Congress enacted the Radio Act of 1927, 44 Stat. 1162, almost 200 new stations went on the air. These new stations used any frequencies they desired, regardless of the interference thereby caused to others. Existing stations changed to other frequencies and increased their power and hours of operation at will. The result was confusion and chaos. With everybody on the air, nobody could be heard. The situation became so intolerable that the President in his message of December 7, 1926, appealed to Congress to enact a comprehensive radio law... Which gave us the predecessor of today's FCC. The question, of course, is if the justification for the FCC was to eliminate chaos, why did the agency not just stop there? Why the indecency rules, must-carry regs, fairness doctrine, overseeing network-station relationships, and so on? -Declan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:41:10 -0500 From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg(a)epic.org> To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Subject: From the Brandeis File Decency, security, and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commands to the citizens. In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperilled if it fails observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by example. Crime is contageous. If the government becomes a lawbreaker; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. To declare that in the administration of the criminal law the end justifies the means -- to declare that the government may commit crimes to secure the conviction of a private criminal -- would bring terrible retribution. Against that pernicious doctrine this Court should resolutely set its face. Olmstead v. US (1928) You remember Brandeis. He's the person who argued for the *right* of privacy. Hardly a surprise, therefore, that he would be so outspoken on the abuse of government authority. Marc.

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More on U.S. government and domain names
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: More on U.S. government and domain names [In the way of self-promotion: Yesterday I taped a CSPAN program on online journalism and Internet regulation. It's airing on CSPAN 1/30 at 7 pm, CSPAN2 at 1/31 at 10 am, and CSPAN 2/2 at 5 pm. I'll also be on National Empowerment Television (NET-TV) on Monday 2/2 around 10:15 pm to talk about encryption regulation. Also tomorrow on PBS Technopolitics (airing here at 11:30 am on WETA 26), the topic is crypto. I believe the guests are NAM's David Peyton and Commerce Dept's William Reinsch. --Declan] ********** Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:58:11 -0800 From: John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> To: declan(a)well.com, gnu(a)toad.com Subject: Netrape Screwlootions begins operations under US Government plan In response to the publication of the US Government's plan to provide long-term stable operation of the Internet domain name system, we have an announcement. Today we are forming a new company, Netrape Screwlootions, Inc. We claim the domain names ".net", ".rape", ".screw", ".lootions", and ".inc", but will settle for ".screw" in the short term. We have a climate-controlled 24-hour operation center deep in the bowels of the earth, with plenty of spare energy. Though there are no ethical standards required for assignment of a government-controlled domain name, we assure you that we meet the highest ethical standards for the lowest place. We have extensive connections in all parts of the Government, especially the White House, which will guarantee our rightful place in the selection of appropriate organizations to manage the transition from public service to throttled competition and then to the heavenly free Internet envisioned by the plan. We meet all the necessary requirements. Everyone is welcome, and we are open 24 hours a day and 365 days a year. We have standardized on high-quality Lucifer encryption for all our accesses. We have multiple high-speed connections to the upper world, and we daily make an archive of all our customers so that they can be resuscitated for continuing operations if they are accidentally destroyed. Our searchable database of customers is maintained by the Perl-y Gates himself. The first one is always free with us, including our software. Our number of global zones of service is completely adequate, providing non-denominational worldwide access to our facilities. Our management policies have been reviewed by the very highest authorities. We assure you that our technical staff is very expert in its machinations, and we offer them constant practice to refine their skills. We have created alternate dispute resolution for trademark-related complaints. This process does not involve the time, expense, and pain of litigation. Instead, our process involves sending trademark lawyers and domain scammers to the deepest part of our operations center, where their thresholds will be studied by the application of delicate instruments that have taken centuries to perfect. The party who screams the loudest will prevail, as usual. Innocent domain users would be inconvenienced by the use of this procedure, but we do not expect any innocent users to actually register domain names. Both sides in the trademark debate assure us that all domain names infringe trademarks and that all trademark owners are slavering monsters. Our level of security is the best. No-one gets past the guards who protect our portals, and we have been in operation for millennia. No malicious hacker has ever escaped us in the long term. We definitely provide a "hot switchover" capability. We have extensive experience with fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, arson, bombs, and other acts of God and War. It is often said that one's soul is visible in one's face, and what else could be called the public face of a company but its name? Your name will be safe with us. Our prices are quite low, certainly no more than the price of a small mass of pottage. We will be glad to register your ...name with us, and when the appropriate time comes, you will then know our true prices. We are looking forward to it. Moo-haa-haaaaaaaaaa....... ************ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:00:01 -0500 From: Keith Dawson <dawson(a)world.std.com> To: declan(a)well.com Cc: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Re: FC: U.S. gvt plan to fully privatize the Internet At 10:15 AM -0500 1/30/98, Declan McCullagh wrote: >The Clinton administration has released its long-awaited >plan to privatize the central nervous system of the >Internet. Declan -- nice summary. See my initial analysis at http://www.tbtf.com/index.html#tbotoday . **** Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:43:22 -0500 From: Mikki Barry <ooblick(a)netpolicy.com> Subject: A-TCPIP/DNRC Press Release Re: Green Paper Press Release January 30, 1998 Contacts: Mikki Barry President, A-TCPIP/ Domain Name Rights Coalition P.O. Box 25876 Alexandria, VA 22313-5876 703.925-0282 Email: ooblick(a)netpolicy.com Harold Feld, Esq. c/o Covington & Burling 1201 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. P.O. Box 7566 Washington, D.C. 20044-7566 202.662-5132 Email: hfeld(a)domain-name.org or hfeld(a)cov.com HERNDON, VA - The Association for the Creation and Propagation of Internet Policies (A-TCPIP) and its working group the Domain Name Rights Coalition (DNRC) welcome the release of the Commerce Department's Green Paper this morning. This paper marks the first time there has been a real effort to capture the diversity of interests in the Internet community on the issue of Internet Governance. "The Internet community should be grateful to Ira Magaziner and his staff for sorting through the hundreds of pages of comments and ideas and producing this well thought out paper," said Mikki Barry, president of A-TCPIP/DNRC. "Now is the time for all small business and public interest organizations who wish to be heard to join with us in helping the Commerce Department focus on ensuring the Internet's continued role in communications and the free flow of information" Harold Feld, Assistant General Counsel of the A-TCPIP/DNRC stated "This is a good first step, but more must come. The Internet is a medium of communications and communities, not just commerce. The vast majority of Internet uses are for communications rather than commerce. We need a clear statement that communications and free speech, including personal and political speech and parody, is valued and protected above all other interests including commerce and intellectual property. The policies of this paper need to reiterate that fact." While applauding the paper's recognition of the role of free market innovators, A-TCPIP/DNRC Vice President and Internet entrepreneur Mike Doughney worried that the paper also contained provisions that would shut out small businesses and people with new ideas. " Dual T1 connections and 24 hour guards make registration services prohibitive for smaller business concerns to enter the marketplace," said Doughney "and allowing one company (even through separate subsidiaries) to be both registry and registrar further stifles the competitive nature inherent to the Internet." Specific points of the paper that the A-TCPIP/DNRC feel need to be addressed include: The make up of the non profit oversight corporation does not include enough seats for small business or for individual users. One seat for each is not enough given that the vast majority of Internet use is by small business, individual users, non profit entities, and others who use it as a forum for communication. The role .us Top Level Domain needs to be clarified. "The .us domain is a valuable resource that is woefully under utilized," said Kathryn Kleiman, General Counsel of the organization. "We are highly encouraged that Mr. Magaziner addressed it in his paper. We stand ready to assist in formulating a coherent policy for its use." Registrars should not be forced to have a domain name dispute policy. Domain name disputes, as with all other disputes involving trademark law need to be settled by court proceedings. Trademark owners should have no superior rights in cyberspace than they have in any other medium of communications. Registrars should not be forced to suspend domain names if an objection (baseless or not) is lodged within 30 days of that name's registration. Doing so would prohibit timely personal, political and commercial speech, and is essentially a 30 day waiting period that would be particularly injurious to small business interests.Further, the automatic suspension is contrary to trademark law because it effectively grants an automatic injunction against the domain name owner where the trademark owner has not proven any likelihood of confusion or infringment. A-TCPIP/DNRC has represented entrepreneurs, small businesses and individuals on issues of Internet governance and domain name concerns since 1995. Its Internet website can be found at http://www.domain-name.org and includes the organization's comments to the Department of Commerce in this proceeding. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:21:48 EST From: von Kriegsherr <kriegsherr(a)juno.com> To: declan(a)well.com Cc: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: U.S.Gov.To Turn `Net over to Moguls Who are we kidding? Ourselves. Keeping the `Net under the protection of U.S. soil, so to speak, is the ONLY guarantee that some international Cabal does not decide for us what we will be able to write or research. It's a few short steps from a total control of all information which is declared, "sensitive."

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