December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: 1st Amendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is very worrisome to me. Miami author Paul Levine wrote a novel a while back about using a naturally-occurring chemical available to the medical profession called succhylcholine (sp?) to commit murder almost untraceably. He was inspired by someone trying it, and I think people have tried it since, and the novel could be said to be a how-to, but nobody has tried to stop him from making money on the book. This case, by looking to the content of the how-to, promises to turn poorly-written how-to books into poorly-written novels, I guess. (Levine's book is well- written and a fun read, but not every author is Paul Levine.) JMR [If cypherpunks, please cc me on replies. I'm on a filtered version.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh. iQEPAwUBNGlSKDUhsGSn1j2pAQFegAfPYtqzIUxddBauAGayRqu2+7kO7uTWwon3 XQRBBc++Mam6Kqpv3yhfIRv4h6Rkj3NSunaIjUOeMa8J/vLNgsC1Bz5N/hnVa6iw wcrIOBkSE39+3xNZ4zLhtTq2F9onDLigdUAZDlprWNFRW9jyG+BGa8dfH16zvye4 mofM9OD9RPgnGN+Jd+tgivkok0Hg/Q4Wt6aLIthGPJL3/Dhowh8V6eftAPyJuaLv nLtgtX3PkSnhRziBPhXAHGxh8Arfrn6xzBoXV8MTdDdurIhFjIq+7wlpefkQIHSK oNmNt7q2IPvdblW+71wwseFXi8V1p4Da788Rn22ezqZ6PQ== =VMU+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Search engine supporting SSL
by Paul Feldman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, is there a search engine around supporting SSL ? this will let one hide it's requests to search engines from malicious eyes :) -- Paul Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Secure HTTP proxying
by Paul Feldman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, do someone knows if there is any browser which uses SSL to contact a HTTP proxy ? in the standard schema, we want to contact a secure server through a proxy, so the browser sends the CONNECT method to the proxy to contact the remote (secure) site. in the schema of my interest, the browser wants to contact a remote secure or insecure site with "hiding" of the communication from some intermediate sniffers, it does so by using a http proxy in SSL mode and then contacting the site of his choice. This is very important for permitting web navigation in insecure environnements if the malicious eyes dont have access to the proxy's network. talking about HTTP proxies in general, i think setting these is as important as setting anonymous remailers, i hope there are some ppl with enough motivation and ressources to help broadcast safe cyberculture. Best Regards -- paul Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kent Krispin wrote: >Tim, like many, rationalizes his simmering anger by blaming it all on >the "bastids in the gubmit". But it doesn't take much insight to see >that there is something a little deeper going on, something a little >sad. .................................................. By jove, I think I've "got" it - there *is* something deeper going on here: Tim is really an undercover 'narc' - through his provocative remarks he's actually encouraging all the violent terrorists on the list to come out of their lurking holes and reveal themselves. Then he's going to turn them all in for a cash reward, which he'll use to buy more high-tech stock. Yeah, that's it! .. Blanc

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Thank You
by Joe Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you for your recent inquire. President, Joe Anonymous Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Computer Show Invittion
by fred34＠netsix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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An open invitation! *!
by make＠money.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Who knows what your personal twist will produce! FULFILLMENT It is essential that the Reports you reproduce look like the originals - not copies of copies of copies. The more professional you keep your business the more so will those behind you. Always provide same day service. It's sound business and the sooner your buyers get started, the sooner you start counting your money. IN A NUTSHELL 1. Name your new MLM Company. You can use you own name if you desire. 2. Get a Post Office box if you can, as it is a preferred way of doing MLM. 3. Edit the names on the Program. Remember, your name goes into the Report # 1 position. The others move down one position with the fourth name being deleted. 4. Copy and save this program as it has become yours to reproduce for distribution via any and all methods you choose. Make certain it remains neat and legible. 5. Decide on the number of Programs you intend to distribute. The more invitations you send out, and the quicker you get them into the hands of other interested people, the more money you will make. 6. Decide on your methods of distribution and obtain as many e-mail addresses as possible to send to until you receive the information regarding mailing list companies in Report # 3. 7. Distribute the Program Invitations, and get ready to fill your orders. 8. Reproduce or copy each of the four Reports so you are ready to send them out as soon as you receive your orders. Remember, when you do, to keep them looking like originals and to always provide same day service. 9. Follow the program instructions exactly, but be as creative and aggressive as you can. THANK YOU for taking the time to read this. Now print it out, RE-READ IT and envision that new car, that vacation, that new house, or that quality education for your kids! Is it too good to be true? No, but it is too good to let slip through your fingers. Are you one of THREE IN A THOUSAND? Are you going to prove to yourself whether or not you can make alot of money in a short period of time by working smart? Are you willing to TRY? It is your decision. GOOD LUCK ! *** Important Message - Sent Using The Zenith Bulk Emailer *** *** For Your FREE Copy Of This Program - http://209.27.224.16 ***

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Minor Language Note
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >My main point was that James Dalton Bell has already spent nearly 7 >months in jail, and has yet to even be sentenced. While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality. Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples. I propose we call Jim by the name he calls himself: Jim Bell. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi3i5aWtjSmRH/5AQGFEgf/VcTdGTAqLir3+aBSGPl+sO++KwtOtZca Kg5tqBo1LtC28oVR53mHt86sCaffHy7Rq8kVgycFVg9KArvvvQteUacKpVXfuGpr TbqALDb3+6n2W/wEym51wbtJxUF8Vjfd30arXaoXx2DxZkJymPv4CR6YSkfZQlzA d3bezJKYNxBFiKeXM/0x2CVxF3wVnA7DA93WiwVWwfcHQGw83G3iGeN3+MqumykV Ts5HDS+7DJ0KUndmvcFwGQpAozvM+fbiA1mKJDwh0PmJmECodGAeV5jFhGBhG2GG JC+wMAdHBmYtq/5fbBd7UAfvIQ3gqGPWqxSBLlousQyCd+72iMWOMg== =JS9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Databasix conspiracy theories
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> wrote: >My point being that a remailer operator has no way of knowing what >the ultimate effect of *any* filtering/blocking will be. (Unless you >read all of the email, like I do as the 'Bad Remailer' operator.) If you are going to run a remailer, you had better expect that some of the people who use it aren't going to be your friends. >It has been my experience that the 'Fear of Spam/Abuse' is beginning >to be the controlling factor in the usefulness, or lack thereof, of >an increasing number of remailers. And this has to be the lowest pressure attack on remailers that there can be. God forbid anybody should try for real to shut down the remailer network. This is understandable - running a remailer offers little tangible reward. On the other hand, if somebody were making $500,000 a year running a remailer, they might defend it a little more vigorously. And, if they didn't, somebody in the Carribbean might be happy to snap up the business. >I cannot help but feel that there has to be some simple ways of >addressing the spam/abuse issue without making the remailers a hit >and miss proposition for the average computer user. Here are two simple solutions: 1. charge hashcash 2. charge ecash. This eliminates the spam problem. It would probably reduce the harrassment problem as well. >e.g. - A stated policy of allowing only 'X' number of emails from the >same address/ISP per day--UCE spammers *could* work around this, but >they make money by speed and volume, not by farting around with >this-and-that. This is not a good idea. I like being able to pump a few megabytes a day through the remailer network to create cover traffic. Right now this would be an act of bad citizenship. But, if we were paying for remailer usage it would be a good thing. Good for me, good for the businesses I patronize. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGk5K5aWtjSmRH/5AQGFOgf9ELMabax8dmxbyV6DKfcLcr4U2MP/fS+E xHPXpxbf05Tr36opYZCwhNDtZEcrzggaBTiJPSk2leOwz1RvancqnrwrArnh/90R /EyikfLiwKgp7KRc4xVUAdYkqnJMYR+dz7K6DGfkLNgTKE3iExDJJcZcMgxn+VI9 2YbM6X8dtdBcMptC2CNxZC5FS2md+bCsyw2GP3bt25tTyuv786X4rVkD/MyH2w4l JOk/WkjReler06OwHLWj0OMgypMPTdGjB8QMnkIxVinyd+E4+bJHh7UNdvf3GyF6 Did9Fj28aVmi8N1NTeW6GZQNoAMeE1QpCTW/+9fJRepy/LWy6QEE+g== =PjCz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: PGP's SMTP enforcer and ISPs
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >(Jon Callas recommends >using -----BEGIN ZZZ ENCRYPTED STUFF----- to avoid the PGP SMTP filters > :-) This is another bizarre issue in the whole CMR saga. PGP Inc are going to corporations and telling them that the SMTP enforcer will allow them to read all incoming email. Then they go out on the Net and tell people how to get around the system. Either their customers are as dumb as PGP appear to think, or the corporations will simply scrap CMR and just escrow keys in case people start taking PGP Inc's advice. Mark

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DOUBLING " your" PROFITS!
by justdoit＠ultra-mail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: 1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > Tim May wrote: > > The judge in this case has committed a capital crime. > Better have our fearless leader, Jim Bell, convene a Melatonin People's > Court, immediately. (The rest of you guys signed and returned the > 'secret oath' that Jim sent last week, too, didn't you?) > > :: B o o t s Bye, Boots. It's been nice knowin' ya.

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I found you
by jootero14＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NEW IMPROVED with FREE software, FEE bulk e mail system, FREE web site to do what you wish, ongoing support (optional), and a lot more! all included. ...........this is a one time mailing............... \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\$\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ you are about to make at least $50,000 In less than 90 days Read the enclosed program...then read it again... //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Dear friend, The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends, and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. I truly believe it was wrong for me to be in debt like this. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happened in my life and I am writing to share my experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER....FINANCIALLY!!! In mid-December, I received this program via email. Six months prior to receiving this program I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they worked or not. One claimed I'd make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it. But like I was saying, in December of '92 I received this program. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY-MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further in debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. After determining that the program is LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT". Initially I sent out 10,000 emails. It only cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about email is that I didn't need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me!. In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13th, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15 TO 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was done. By January 30th, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 19th, of my emailing of 10,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER! Remember, it wont work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It doesn't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee, 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100 or more orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $50,000 or more in 20 to 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS !!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I'm sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and you are in financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Christopher Erickson PS Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000) look like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! "THREW IT AWAY" "I had received this program before. I threw it away, but later wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get a copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed another copy of the program. Eleven months passed, then it came. I DIDN'T throw this one away. I made $41,000 on the first try." Dawn W., Evansville, IN "NO FREE LUNCH" "My late father always told me, 'remember, Alan, there is no free lunch in life. You get out of life what you put into it.' Through trial and error and a somewhat slow frustrating start, I finally figured it out. The program works very well, I just had to find the right target group of people to email it to. So far this year, I have made over $63,000 using this program. I know my dad would have been very proud of me." Alan B., Philadelphia, PA A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM By the time you have read the enclosed information and looked over the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate...because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of your money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices which market this and several other programs here in the US and overseas. By the Spring, we wish to market the 'Internet' by a partnership with AMERICA ON LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to email a copy of this exciting program to everyone that you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000...and your name will be on every one of them!. Remember though, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! Definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$$ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a .5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a .5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those .5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The .5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The .5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 five dollar bills for you. CASH!!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONLY 2,000. Believe me, many people will do that and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and email is FREE!!! REPORT#3 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing and purchasing email lists. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come in contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get the mail. If you believe that someday you'll get that big break that you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions, and your dream will come true. This multi-level email order marketing program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. Email is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using email. Get your piece of this action!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and The Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold throughout Multi-level Methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the US, 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. INSTRUCTIONS We at Erris Mail Order Marketing Business, have a method of raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20 to 90 days. Before you say "Bull", please read the program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what we do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi- level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four 4 REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Dothis by ordering the REPORT from each of the four 4 names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF- ADDRESSED, STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $2 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the report requested to the person you are ordering from. You will need ALL FOUR 4 REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with yours, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 to REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the required changes in the NAME list, save it as a text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever email program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk emailing and acquiring email lists. Step (4) Email a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, email to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get email addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in email mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35.00. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four 4 REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 USD CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER (International orders should also include $2 USD extra for postage) Add you e amil address when sending in for your report this is for updated information and continueing support (optional) that will be handed down by you sponcers. ______________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: J. Maz 15774 S. LaGrange Rd suite #312 Orland Pk, IL 60462 USA ______________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: A. Siegmund #57 Trakehnenstr. 13 53332 Bornheim, Germany ______________________________________________________REPORT#3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: B. Thompson 13504 Greencaslte ridge Tr. 404 Burtonsville MD. 20866 ______________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: MUW #2 PO BOX 71442 SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84171-0442 ______________________________________________________ CONCLUSION .I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation.

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Scared of US; Where to relocate?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It has become very clear to me over the past few years that amerika is headed for some pretty rough times, and I've decided to leave before it becomes illegal for me to do so. The only question is, where to? I've been looking around for about a week, and the only country that's looked good so far was Anguilla (lower travel costs for FC99!), but it doesn't meet my requirements for a number of reasons... Key features I'm looking for are: 1) Stable political environment. I'm making the move, after all, to AVOID participation in a civil war. 2) Stable economy, with local sources for all the basics (food, water, energy). 3) Reasonable level of medical technology, and local talent. I want good care for my wife during childbirth, for instance. 4) A job market for unix sysadmins / networking gurus / hackers would be nice, but I wouldn't mind learning a new trade either. 5) Right to keep & bear arms + Freedom of speech are musts, other "bill of rights" type laws strongly desired. 6) Low or no taxes would be nice, but if the first five points are met even a fairly high (30-40%) tax rate would be endurable. So... any suggestions?

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Scared of US; Where to relocate?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It has become very clear to me over the past few years that amerika is headed for some pretty rough times, and I've decided to leave before it becomes illegal for me to do so. The only question is, where to? I've been looking around for about a week, and the only country that's looked good so far was Anguilla (lower travel costs for FC99!), but it doesn't meet my requirements for a number of reasons... Key features I'm looking for are: 1) Stable political environment. I'm making the move, after all, to AVOID participation in a civil war. 2) Stable economy, with local sources for all the basics (food, water, energy). 3) Reasonable level of medical technology, and local talent. I want good care for my wife during childbirth, for instance. 4) A job market for unix sysadmins / networking gurus / hackers would be nice, but I wouldn't mind learning a new trade either. 5) Right to keep & bear arms + Freedom of speech are musts, other "bill of rights" type laws strongly desired. 6) Low or no taxes would be nice, but if the first five points are met even a fairly high (30-40%) tax rate would be endurable. So... any suggestions?

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None Re: Databasix conspiracy theories
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Andy Dustman <andy(a)neptune.chem.uga.edu> wrote: > > Maybe the next time Gary, Linda, or Paul send a remailer operator a > > complaint, the operator will know what to expect next. > > I did get one complaint from Gary Burnore about stuff being sent directly > to him. He wasn't a jerk about it, and I haven't heard a peep out of him > since. Jeff Burchell's systems, Mailmasher and Huge Cajones, seemed to bear the brunt of the wrath and attacks by Gary Burnore and his associates Billy McClatchie (aka "Wotan") and Belinda Bryan. Perhaps that's because they were most often utilized by one or more of his detractors in posting public criticism about the tactics of himself, his company, and his associates. > > thing that's not so random is the high percentage of words that are > > related to DataBasix, such as "DataBasix", "Burnore", and "Wotan". I'm > > almost waiting for Gary Burnore to give the remailer and mail2news > > operators a "helpful" suggestion that they could curb most of this > > "abuse" by simply blocking any anonymous posts containing any of those > > three keywords. <g> Or perhaps he's done so and politely been turned > > down. > > He's never asked us, at least. Although, when spam-baiting started hot and > heavy this summer, another Databasix employee did suggest that his address > should not appear in posts. I made it quite clear we don't check for > specific names, words, or addresses, and that he was a legitimate topic of > discussion. Never heard back after that, and this was several months ago. IMO, that's a good policy. In fact, the best strategy seems to be to have a plan in place before starting a remailer so that when attacks and/or demands come in, the operator will have already decided what responses are appropriate and what aren't. To fail to do that is to leave one's system open to "designer abuse" where a certain kind of fabricated abuse implies a certain "cure", which is exactly why the abuser did it in the first place. For example, if someone comes along and starts spamming newsgroups, seemingly at random, and the common thread seems to be that each of the spams mentions Gary Burnore or DataBasix, the "obvious" solution would seem to be block all posts which include the keywords "Burnore" or "DataBasix". By doing that, you stop the abuse -- as well as effectively censoring any anonymous criticism of Gary Burnore and DataBasix. It's not hard to figure out the motives behind such actions. > > Perhaps the next wave of attacks on remailers will not consist of > > attempts to shut them down altogether but to progressively cripple them > > by getting certain features disabled, one by one. This seems to have > > already started. The strategy seems to be to fabricate a form of > > "abuse", anonymously through remailers, for which the seemingly > > "logical" solution is to disable a certain feature. This has already > > proven successful with header pasting, for example. Now you can't post > > to Usenet and set the From: address to that of your own 'nym. > > If you really want the post to have the From: address of your nym, send > the post with your nym and not with the remailer as the last hop. The > point of anonymous remailers is to be anonymous. If you want to use a > psuedonym, use a nymserver. If I remember correctly, the documentation for at least one of the nymservers suggested that posting through a remailer and pasting in the return address would be quicker and impose less burden on the server than having to process each outgoing message through the server. > > If the "camel" can get his nose under the tent and convince operators > > to start filtering on the *CONTENT* of the Subject: line or body of > > usenet posts, the anti-privacy nuts will have scored a major victory. > > In fact, from reading Jeff Burchell's posts, it looks like Gary and his > > DataBasux-ers had initially convinced Jeff to do exactly that. But, in > > a symbolic victory for freedom of speech, he removed those filters for a > > week before he finally shut down Huge Cajones altogether. > > Cracker does have a spam-bait mangler which is somewhat simpler than the > scheme Jeff used. In a nutshell, if there are an inordinately large number > of addresses (compared to other text), the addresses are mangled, i.e., > president(a)whitehouse.gov becomes president <AT> whitehouse <DOT> gov. > Still human-readable but useless for address harvesters. No posts get > dropped or filtered out under this scheme, and no keywords or particular > addresses are looked for. I'm not sure that even that is a wise precedent to set. In itself it seems innocuous enough, but it could always lead to a demand, "Well, you already mangle e-mail addresses contained in the bodies of posts, so why not also alter the contents of posts in the following way..." Also, I hope that your mangler is smart enough to distinguish e-mail addresses from lists of Usenet message IDs, since a list of such references should be perfectly valid in the body of a post. The problem with destroying machine readability of e-mail addresses is that many newsreaders will turn an e-mail address into a hot link where one could simply click on it to send e-mail. If someone were to anonymously post a message in support of or in opposition to a certain piece of legislation, and include a list of the e-mail addresses of the Congress-critters on a certain committee considering that bill, such a scheme might defeat the purpose of the list. IMO, anything that makes posting via a remailer less functional than doing so non-anonymously is ultimately detrimental to the cause of privacy. BTW, is there any evidence to indicate that anyone is really harvesting e-mail addresses from the BODIES of Usenet posts? Gary Burnore posts his flames quite widely, so it's quite likely that any bulk e-mailing lists he's on is the result of his (non-mangled) e-mail address being in the From: line of his own posts. Perhaps the ultimate reality check is whether someone is seeking to impose a standard on remailers that's stricter than the one imposed on the phone company or the postal service. I can drop some coins in a pay phone and call anyone at any time. The functionality of a public phone is not restricted merely because the users are not identified. Similarly, I can drop a letter in a public mailbox without anyone verifying my identity. No return address is required. Or I can write in a return address and nobody will check whether it's "genuine" or "forged". It would be ludicrous, for example, for someone who had received a couple of crank phone calls from payphones to demand that the phone company either totally prevent this abuse from ever happening again or else remove all of its pay phones! And yet those are exactly the demands that anti-privacy zealots have made on remailers, and often they've succeeded. Should one's willingness to broadcast his/her name and e-mail address indiscriminately to a WORLDWIDE newsgroup be a prerequisite for one to express one's views? Is that not tantamount to saying that one cannot walk down the street without wearing a badge containing his name, address, and phone number for all to read? Or should one's name and e-mail address be considered his property to be divulged only if and when he chooses? -- Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind. -- General William Westmoreland

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by mepemie15＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: FCPUNX:PGP's SMTP enforcer and ISPs
by Lance Cottrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

SSH and a remote shell account can solve this problem. If they close port 22 it is time to change providers. <shameless plug> Cyberpass <http://www.cyberpass.net> provides anonymous shell accounts and SSH. </shameless plug> -Lance >Recently, my ISP became the victim of spammers. Their response, like many >other ISPs, is to block port 25 for all their dialup users. This means >that all outgoing email must be routed through their mail server. > >Now that PGP has an SMTP enforcers, and that others will eventually follow >with a S/MIME equivalent, we are literally an executive order away from an >effective (if not 100% complete) ban on "inappropriate" encryption on email >communications. > >All it would take is a national emergency, like the next war against Saddam >Hussein, or a law that does not treat ISPs like common carriers and holds >them liable for what their users do. > >And the worst thing of all is that most people won't even notice it. Hell, >I was the only person on my end to notice that my ISP had blocked port 25. > >-- Phelix, "perfect paranoia is perfect awareness" > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >| The above message was sent from the Filtered Cypherpunks List, a free | >| filtering service. Direct any replies in regards to this message to | >| its author. Archives available from www.sundernet.com/fdigest.html | >-------> For help see http://www.sundernet.com/crypto.html <------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)infonex.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. http://www.infonex.com/~loki/ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:30:20 -0500 To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)pathfinder.com> From: Solveig Singleton <solveig(a)cato.org> Subject: Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole (fwd) I am simply delighted to see that there is a cypherpunk/ferret connection. They are charming animals; you simply have not lived until you have had one deploy its highly evolved predatory instincts to pull the insoles out of all your shoes and hide them under the bed, along with all the attachments from the vacuum cleaner. Feel free to post this, if you like.

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SET
by Doug_Tygar＠cs.cmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

rah(a)shipwright.com wrote: >At Doug Tygar's talk at Harvard last week, he claimed to have found a way >to crack it. I, um, forgot to press him on this. Has anyone heard about >this, or what it might be? Actually, I did not claim to break SET. What I said was: (a) because SET is such a complicated protocol, I am certain that it does have flaws; (b) SET does not have a clear design philosophy -- for example, it has modes in which a consumer's credit card number is hidden from a merchant and modes when it is given to a merchant. These ambiguous design points in the protocol make the protocol vulnerable to misuse. I have not made a serious effort to crack SET, yet. -- Doug Tygar

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Thank You
by Joe Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Smell This !!!!
by Jim6＠jamesy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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See brother Ralph, bash billg for free.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

See Washington before it burns... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:35:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: love(a)cptech.org Originator: info-policy-notes(a)essential.org Sender: info-policy-notes(a)essential.org Precedence: bulk From: James Love <love(a)cptech.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <info-policy-notes(a)essential.org> Subject: Microsoft Conference Scholarship Info MIME-Version: 1.0 I have mentioned this a few times before, but apparently some are not aware. People who want to attend the Essential Information Conference on Microsoft, and who do not have funding for the conference fee, can easily receive a scholarship by sending a note to Donna Colvin, who can be reached at dcolvin(a)essential.org (fax 202.234.5176). This is available to anyone, including people who work in industry or government. Conference info is on the web at http://www.appraising-microsoft.org Jamie -- James Packard Love Consumer Project on Technology P.O. Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036 202.387.8030 | fax 202.234.5176 love(a)cptech.org | http://www.cptech.org --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Prof. Bernstein's appeal brief and two major Amicus briefs online
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The EFF Bernstein Legal web page has been updated to contain: * the appeal brief by Prof. Bernstein * the Amicus ("friend of the court") brief by EPIC, ACLU, CDT, CPSR, Economic Strategy Institute, Free Congress R&E, Human Rights Watch, Independence Institute, ISC2, IMC, ISOC, NAM, Privacy International, USACM, Whit Diffie, Peter Neumann, and Ron Rivest * the Amicus brief by NCSA, RSA, Maynard Anderson, Jim Bidzos, Mark Rasch, Gene Spafford, and Ross Stapleton-Gray. http://www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/ITAR_export/Bernstein_case/Legal/ There are still three more amicus briefs filed with the court, which are not yet on the Web. The Government's reply is due on November 20; we'll provide page images shortly thereafter. The appeal hearing is on December 8 at 9AM at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, 95 Seventh Street, San Francisco. John Gilmore Electronic Frontier Foundation

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CDA: The Sequel -- introduced in the U.S. Senate
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just when you thought the Internet was safe from government censorship, Sen. Dan Coats has introduced a sequel to the notorious Communications Decency Act. The bill punishes commercial distributors of material that's "harmful to minors" with six months in jail and a $50,000 fine. Unlike the original CDA, it applies only to web sites -- not to chatrooms, newsgroups, or email. Like the original CDA, it's certain to be controversial. Sen. Coats (R-Indiana), chief GOP sponsor of the original CDA, said his bill takes into account the Supreme Court's unanimous vote in June that struck down his first try. "I have studied the opinion of the Court and come before my colleagues today to introduce legislation that reflects the parameters laid out by the Court's opinion," he said on the Senate floor. (ftp://ftp.loc.gov/pub/thomas/c105/s1482.is.txt) Coats' brainchild is strikingly similar to (and in fact not as broad as) an ill-fated version of the first CDA that Rep. Rick White (R-Wash.) and the Center for Democracy and Technology embraced as a "compromise" in December 1995. Like Coats' bill, the White-CDT measure restricted material that was "harmful to minors." (http://www.epic.org/cda/hyde_letter.html) A Coats staffer said the measure requires adult pornographers to place images behind a firewall. "If you're involved in the commercial distribution of material that's harmful to minors, you have to take the bad stuff and put it on the other side of a credit card or PIN number," David Crane said. But the bill applies to more than just visual pornography. Its definition of material that could hurt minors includes any offensive sexual "communication" or "writing" without redeeming value. It applies to text-only web pages -- or bookstores that place sample chapters on the web. Since it covers anyone who "through the World Wide Web is engaged in the business of the commercial distribution of material that is harmful to minors," it could apply to Internet providers and online services as well. The FCC and the Department of Justice would be required to publish on their web sites "such information as is necessary to inform the public of the meaning of the term `material that is harmful to minors.'" Solveig Singleton, a lawyer at the Cato Institute, says: "The Supreme Court struggled for years to come up with a national defintion of obscenity. They failed. Harmful to minors is obscenity-lite. The FCC and Department of Justice won't have any luck coming up with a definition of obscenity-lite." Not a problem, predicts former porn-prosecutor Bruce Taylor, now the head of the National Law Center for Children and Families. "This bill will ensure that the hardcore pornographers don't get off the hook," he says. Next step for Coats is to attract co-sponsors and to forward his bill to the Senate Commerce committee. Some judges criticized Congress for holding no hearings on the original CDA; Coats isn't going to make that mistake again. "There will be a concerted effort to build a substantial legislative history," says David Crane. This bill won't be the end of Congressional interest in cyberporn. "You'll probably see other legislation come forward. Introducing this is not abandoning our other concerns," Crane says. -Declan

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Re: Some IDIOT called CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, VME Encryption wrote: > p.s. - I wonder if you know what's the source of all the bad rep we've got > - nobody knows us and we never posted anything on your forum, so what the > heck ? Exactly. You have not posted the source code to your allegedly secure crypto algorithm, so every serious cryptographer will laugh at you. Without independent verification, and lots of it, the only people who will consider your product are lobotomized IT departments. We've never heard of you before; we don't even know who your developers are, so we can only assume they haven't "done their homework." In essence: you have now been branded as complete morons. The only way to avoid having to leave the country is to make the complete source for your crypto available on your website in the next 24 hours. Noncompliance will lead to your mysterious reciept of a suitcase, followed shortly by the mysterious disappearance of a large portion of your city. AlgorithmMonger

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Re: SET
by John Deters 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:18 AM 11/12/97 -0800, Jeremey Barrett you wrote: >Robert Hettinga writes: > > > > Unfortunately, I think that no MIS manager will get fired for using SET, and > > it'll take a serious demonstration of a security breach before people will > > listen to anything else. At least until someone demonstrates a transaction > > protocol which is, say 3 orders of magnitude cheaper... > >Perhaps... OTOH, SET is SO bad that it will be impossible to deploy, >probably forcing everyone away from it anyway. Having spent the last ten years at this retail outfit, I can assure you that "impossible to deploy" != "won't be deployed". If Mastercard tells us that they will jack our rates by 0.5% for every transaction processed without SET, then management will demand SET be rolled out. Function be damned, security be damned, as long as some bookkeeper somewhere is satisfied that SET happens, then we avoid a huge rate increase. If the security of SET is questioned in the trade rags, our management's approach will be to assume that Mastercard will fix it in the future, but roll it out now anyway. OTOH, it's obvious (even to them) that SET couldn't possibly be any *less* secure than current authorizing techniques. *Sigh*. Look for copyrighted swirly red/orange logos to appear on retailer's doors' soon: "SET(tm) Transaction Processing -- It's safe to use your Mastercard here" John, who will get dragged into implementing it. Got any suggestions? -- J. Deters "Don't think of Windows programs as spaghetti code. Think of them as 'Long sticky pasta objects in OLE sauce'." +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | NET: mailto:jad@dsddhc.com (work) mailto:jad@pclink.com (home) | | PSTN: 1 612 375 3116 (work) 1 612 894 8507 (home) | | ICBM: 44^58'36"N by 93^16'27"W Elev. ~=290m (work) | | For my public key, send mail with the exact subject line of: | | Subject: get pgp key | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: CDA: The Sequel -- introduced in the U.S. Senate
by Lizard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:05 PM 11/12/97 -0500, Colin Rafferty wrote: > >By the way, my signature contains an ascii art rendition of an adult >about to have sex with a child. I believe that (i) it appeals to a >prurient interest in sex; (ii) it depicts, in a patently offensive way, >a simulated sexual act; and (iii) lacks any value whatsoever. > >Now all I need to do is put it up on a web page on a for-profit company. > More to the point, since Deja News will bring it up if you post to Usenet with it, they become 'porn distributors'.

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Re: Scared of US; Where to relocate?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > > It has become very clear to me over the past few years that amerika > is headed for some pretty rough times, and I've decided to leave before > it becomes illegal for me to do so. The only question is, where to? Comet CypherPunk Bop-Shoo-Bop will be approaching close to earth in late 1999 to drop off Jesus and pick up the CypherPunks. We're meeting at Tim's place. {Anyone who makes it to the pick-up site get's a T-shirt that says, "Darwin was right!"} Do[n't]

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Incoming!!!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

:: Anon-To: whitehouse.gov Andy Dustman wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Robert A. Costner wrote: > > At 10:05 AM 11/12/97 -0500, Andy Dustman wrote: > > >FYI, here is the list of things blocked at cracker: ... > > >Addresses: whitehouse.gov (ONLY address in .gov domain). > > Anonymous political speech is one the most highly protected forms of > > constitutional speech. I think that whitehouse.gov should be unblocked. > Well, I agree, and since it's your ass, it's done. Dear Bad BillyC, Realizing that a plethora of death-threats were undoubtedly sent your way through the Georgia Cracker remailer even before the ink on Andy's computer screen had dried (only two of them were from me--I'm beginning to like you), I thought I would dash off a quick note to you, hopefully arriving before you send the National Park Janitors SWAT Team out to Bob and Andy's cities of residence in order to raze them to the ground. Outwardly, I am a fool and a cynic, but inwardly, I am a fool and a secret believer in Truth, Democracy and the American Way (TM). (God, the Flag, Mom's Apple Pie, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"...) Although I am a member of a CryptoAnarchist non-organization which requires all of its non-members to have "NUKE DC" tattooed on their foreheads in invisible ink (paranoid enough , nonetheless. to make certain it is covered by our cleverly designed aluminum foil hats), I still have a small ember of hope burning deep inside that perhaps there is still someone within the belly of the Great Beast (that consumes the souls of all elected officials) who remains capable of reading the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution, and saying, "My God, what have we done!" The Anonymous Remailers are a public service provided by those who believe that "_mostly_ free speech" =/= "free speech." The anonymous remailer operators are willing to risk abuse, loss of ISP service, prosecution, and a host of other headaches in order to provide a mechanism by which those who fear retribution for speaking freely can raise their voice anonymously, just as our country's founding fathers did. No matter how eloquent the speech of those who claim that words spoken by free men must be stifled if they are 'dangerous' to the goals of democracy, national security, etc., the fact remains that if the citizens are not allowed full freedom of speech, then there is no democracy to defend, and no nation worth securing. Nothing personal, but if you have your hand resting on the Big Red Button and still feel the need to call out the militia every time someone tells you to "Beware the Ides of March.", then maybe you ought to lift weights, or something, and see if you can't raise your level of confidence in your physical security. Has no one in DC ever heard the phrase, "Sticks and stones will break my bones...?" Never seen Kato, in "The Pink Panther?" Personally, I think that you should institute National Death Threat Week, where everyone is encouraged to send death threats in one form or another to their legislative representatives, employers, workers, family, neighbors, et al. Why? Because I don't believe that the first indication of a 'problem' should be seeing the muzzle flash and, if one is lucky, hearing the shot. The Founding Fathers did not write the Constitution 'off the cuff.' They did not fail to consider someone shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. They were aware of the existence of words such as "nigger" and "cocksucker." Yet they still wrote that the right to free speech should not be abridged. Figure it out... What has democracy come to when quoting those who wrote our country's defining documents has become a cause for being labeled a fanatic, radical terrorist/pedophile/drug-dealer (and a Horseman To Be Named Later)? Why does it take me half a day to find copies of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence when searching government web sites, but only a few minutes to find by searching the sites of those declared by the government to be guilty of uttering 'dangerous' free speech? I know that it can be just as thankless being President as it can being an anonymous remailer operator, so you, above all, should recognize that they are trying to keep the alligators off their ass while still remembering to drain the swamp. I have no doubt that there are several hundred laws that you or others could use to force the Georgia Cracker remailer operators to block anonymous email to whitehouse.gov, but I hope that you realize the value, in your position, of having at least one forum where people can communicate with you at a level that goes beyond ass kissing, fear of retribution, etc. My final offering of wisdom: Have "NUKE DC!" tattooed on your forehead. I have no doubt that this would create a groundswell of popular support for you that would result in the citizens storming Congress to have you declared "President For Life." Then you could have some *real* fun, without worrying about political fallout. ("Did I say 'inhale'? I meant 'exhale'! Hee...hee...") Your pal, TruthMonger "It's not FUD until *I* say it's FUD!"

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by Wu Tang 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Scared of US; Where to relocate?
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It has become very clear to me over the past few years that amerika >is headed for some pretty rough times, and I've decided to leave before >it becomes illegal for me to do so. The only question is, where to? Lagrange 5 and Mars are good choices. The near side of the Earth moon doesn't qualify and neither does Earth orbit since it's so easy to shoot you down.

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