December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Bell vs. Woodward--justice?
by rab＠stallion.oz.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > Apparently shaking a baby to death is a lesser crime than opposing > government fascism and having a continuing interest in chemistry. > > And people wonder why the militia movement is gaining strength every > day. > > The au pair Louise Woodward will serve less time in jail than Jim Bell > will. While Bell languishes in a Washington state jail, awaiting (for > almost 7 months!!) his sentence, the convicted babykiller is now free. > > I guess having a couple of fake SS tattoos, er, "numbers," and > possibly opening a vial of mercaptin where some people would smell it, > is a more serious crime than shaking a baby to death. > > Only in Amerika. > > Lock and load. > > --Tim May > Here in Australia the media has been giving this trial regular coverage with the spin "Innocent English Person Wrongly Found Guilty by US Jury". The coverage led me to believe that despite scientific evidence to the contrary the jury found Woodward guilty. One other point from the coverage was that Woodward represented herself for at least some part of the trial, did Jim Bell do this too? Obviously Tim you have been exposed to very different media coverage. RAB

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Mixmaster Port Question
by James F. Marshall 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Bell vs. Woodward--justice?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

rab(a)stallion.oz.au wrote: > Tim May wrote: > > The au pair Louise Woodward will serve less time in jail than Jim Bell > > will. While Bell languishes in a Washington state jail, awaiting (for > > almost 7 months!!) his sentence, the convicted babykiller is now free. > > > > I guess having a couple of fake SS tattoos, er, "numbers," and > > possibly opening a vial of mercaptin where some people would smell it, > > is a more serious crime than shaking a baby to death. > Here in Australia the media has been giving this trial regular coverage > with the spin "Innocent English Person Wrongly Found Guilty by US Jury". > The coverage led me to believe that despite scientific evidence to the > contrary the jury found Woodward guilty. One other point from the > coverage was that Woodward represented herself for at least some part of > the trial, did Jim Bell do this too? It was apparent to many Canadians that the au pair would be found guilty of having 'traditional British Reserve.' The American system of justice is nothing more than a dog-and-pony show, particularly in hi-profile cases. The dumb British kid was under some mistaken impression that the trial would be based on facts. The prosecution could have mounted as good or better a case against the child's parents. (Two physicians that don't notice that their child has suffered a fractured wrist and skull? No wonder they were so hot to have the girl convicted.) The Judge knows damn well that reasonable doubt was visibly established, and I suspect he's trying to get everyone out of the mess as quickly and easily as possible. Bell's case is different. He was villainized within the court system and there was little chance of it going to trial, unless he managed to find an attorney who never wanted to win another case. Bell's public defender turned down outside offeres of assistance from veteran attorneys, and Bell was kept under wraps. My guess is that Bell was the first Cypherpunk to receive the coming digital implants. MongerUnit #2347

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More Crypto Statements
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From November 9 Congressional Record: Rep. Sherman on encryption exports and domestic controls: http://jya.com/sher-crypto.txt (15K) Rep. Dreier on need for strong encryption to protect national security: http://jya.com/dreier-crypto.txt (4K) ---------- Declan, anyone, is this flood of statements due to an industry campaign, or one by Majortiy Leader Lott, or Speaker Gingrich, or a combination, or what? What's your insider intel, Declan, will these initiatives continue into the next session or are they just cheap dues paying for the moment, while getting ready to sellout when the rain of if-you-knew-what-we've-been-briefed shit showers down next year? What's Kerrey, McCain, Solomon counter-campaigning with the TLAs?

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Gun Control brings on a New Arms Race
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >All I bought were some lasers, some .223 vest-piercers, and a few special >parts for my Colt HBAR. Oh, and I took delivery on a so-called "assault >pistol"--30 rounds of .223 rifle ammunition in a package that fits under an >overcoat. I'll be ready for the November Raids. .............................................. If we ever get into a real domestic war, I wanna go stay with Tim, what with that arsenal stocked in his closet. :>) .. Blanc

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RE: Bell vs. Woodward--justice?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's been movement in Jim Bell's penal situation which is being looked into (not by me). Details coming soon.

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Re: Bell vs. Woodward--justice?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MongerUnit #2347 writes: >It was apparent to many Canadians that the au pair would be found guilty >of having 'traditional British Reserve.' The American system of justice >is nothing more than a dog-and-pony show, particularly in hi-profile >cases. The dumb British kid was under some mistaken impression that >the trial would be based on facts. No doubt their decision to hire Barry Scheck was based on his quiet, gentle demeanor in front of a jury.

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While reading the report of the Presidential on Commission Critical Infrastructure Protection, the Public Key Infrastructure Study and the draft plans for Internet-2, it is becoming even more aparent what government schemers plan to do with encryption technology. Some of the statements literaly call for key escrow/recovery systems and others imply it extensively when one reads between the lines. They want security on the Internet-2 to be like the Berlin Wall. What amazes me (I guess not, really) is all of the so-called free market corporations that are in collusion with governent to enable this new Internet Security State. I have long thought that if government is going to be successful at forcing key recovery onto the nation in law that it was going to have to have the help of the major corporations who are looking for the money. It was only one year ago that IBM was lobbying congress for the contract on the new key escrow system congress was considering and the FBI, et al were demanding. Never turn your back on the merchantilists. The IRS, right now, is calling for assistance with their _second_ attempt at revitalising their archaic networks, mainframes and software. Again, it's the major corporations rushing in to their aid while looking for those "big dollars". [IRS just spent 4 Billion a few years back on the very same effort and have virtually nothing to show for it] Corporate America Saves the IRS. What a headline. Corporate America wants the IRS to be able to survive to tax us all into oblivion, when what they ought to do is turn their backs on the IRS, walk away and let them fall in on themselves just like the Soviet Union did. If we're lucky, around December 31, 1999, the IRS will crash along with their computer systems. Sparticus

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Re:
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sparticus wrote: >Corporate America Saves the IRS. What a headline. Corporate America wants the IRS to be >able to survive to tax us all into oblivion, when what they ought to do is turn their >backs on the IRS, walk away and let them fall in on themselves just like the Soviet Union did. >If we're lucky, around December 31, 1999, the IRS will crash along with their computer systems. .............................................. And a lot of those corporations are probably highly Democrat-ic. Something I've not yet understood is how some very successful companies and individuals (like very wealthy entertainters) can be so supportive of the likes of Clinton and the whole Democrat-ic welfare/taxation agenda (this is not to say that Republicans are much better in their ideology, but only outright, declared Socialists are worse). I mean, these people may be able to write off a lot of business expenses and so receive those types of benefits, but they will support regulations which make it difficult for the non-business owning individual to keep much of what the income they make or to become employed in their own small, unlicensed occupations. What could they be thinking? Or maybe that's the deal - they expect that they themselves won't suffer too much economically, because they know how to get the advantages of the regulations which they support, but being control freaks they want to be in the position to "help" everyone else, and regulations provides them with the image of "benefactors". Still, anyone who "gets the advantage" of tax deductions for whatever itemizing they can do on business deals is nevertheless required to answer for their every move, their every economic decision, to the Higher Authority of the IRS. This is dumb, and demoralizing. To me, anyway; it appears that people like them don't care all that much about personal sovereignty as long as they get to lord over others in the meantime. .. Blanc

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Fwd: psychoceramics: Fighting back against the Government
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is an interesting spin doctoring of Jim Bell's situation. I picked this up off the psychoceramics list. Why it was there is unclear... >>From http://www.usnews.com:80/usnews/issue/971117/17weap.htm >Terrorism's next waveNerve gas and germs are the new weapons of choice > BY DAVID E. KAPLAN > >Jeff Gordon thought he had seen it all. A veteran IRS investigator, >Gordon's job since 1988 had been to probe threats and assaults against >his fellow agents. There was no shortage in recent years--stabbings, >fires, mortar attacks, and big unexploded bombs outside IRS offices in >Los Angeles and Reno, Nevada. But in the first months of this year, >Gordon found himself working on the strangest case of his career. From >an informant, he had learned of a Portland, Ore., man named James Dalton >Bell. Bell owed some $30,000 in back taxes and served as a juror in a >local "common law court." Dozens of these self-appointed tribunals have >issued "fines" and even death sentences against public officials. >Bell was also active in antigovernment forums on the Internet, where he >had posted a dark scheme threatening murder of troublesome federal >agents. Participants could send encrypted messages to each other, Bell >proposed, offering donations to whoever "predicted" how long a targeted >official would live. The winner, presumably the assassin, would be >rewarded with electronic fund transfers from anonymous donors, >hesuggested. >Gordon checked further. Bell, it turned out, was an electronics engineer >at a nearby circuit board manufacturer. He was also an MIT-educated >chemist who had been arrested eight years earlier for making >methamphetamine, but pleaded guilty to a lesser charge. According to >court records, Bell had once told a friend: "The first thing to remember >is: Never make a chemist angry at you." >In February, the IRS docked Bell's wages and seized his 10-year-old car. >Inside the vehicle, Gordon found instructions for making bombs and >molotov cocktails. There was also far-right literature, a printout >listing large amounts of cyanide, and detailed information on >fertilizer, a key ingredient in the Oklahoma City bomb. But with no >evidence that Bell had hurt anyone, Gordon could not move. >A burning stench. Four weeks later, on a Monday morning in March, IRS >officials encountered a terrible nose-burning stench as they arrived at >their building in Vancouver, the Portland suburb where Bell lived. >Investigators traced the smell to a welcome mat dosed with propanethiol. >The chemical is used by utilities in minuscule concentrations to give >natural gas its noticeable smell. "It's Bell," Gordon told his boss. >"I'm sure of it." Bell had attempted twice to buy propanethiol from a >chemical-supply company in Milwaukee, Gordon then learned. Worried that >the stink bomb was a trial run for something much worse, on April 1, >authorities raided Bell's home. They seized five computers and three >semiautomatic assault rifles, then opened his garage door. Before them >stood dozens of containers filled with chemicals. There were volatile >solvents, explosives ingredients, sodium cyanide, nitric acid, and >diisopropyl fluorophosphate--one of several ingredients that, if >properly mixed, form nerve gas--all in a residential neighborhood. "The >level and type of chemicals were extremely unusual," said Leroy >Loiselle, who managed the cleanup for the Environmental Protection >Agency. "You don't need nitric acid to keep aphids off your flowers." >On Bell's computers, Gordon found two other items: the names and home >addresses of over 100 public officials--IRS employees, FBI agents, local >police officers--and a 169-page document, The Terrorist's Handbook, with >detailed instructions for making chemical weapons and high explosives. >Bell's friends told investigators that he had tried using green beans to >make botulin toxin, which causes botulism, and that he claimed to have >successfully made sarin, the nerve gas used by Japanese cultists in >their 1995 attack on the Tokyo subway. >Bell was arrested. In July he pleaded guilty to charges of obstruction >of IRS agents and use of a false Social Security number, and also >admitted to the stink bomb attack and the cyberassassination scheme. He >faces up to eight years in prison and $500,000 in fines. Bell declined >to comment, but he contended earlier that he is merely "a chemical >hobbyist" and the assassination scheme only an abstract proposal. "I'm a >talker, not a doer," he said. The IRS's Jeff Gordon remains wary. >According to court records, after his arrest Bell boasted to a friend >that police never found his most dangerous chemical weapons. Gordon >believes they could include a secret stockpile of sarin. >New generation. Characters like James Dalton Bell are giving federal >officials fits these days. Bell, they believe, is one of a new >generation of tinkerers and technicians, of college-educated extremists >threatening to use biological, chemical, or radiological weapons to >achieve their goals. Since the Aum cult's Tokyo nerve gas attack, FBI >officials say the number of credible threats to use these weapons has >jumped from a handful in 1995, to 20 last year, to twice that number >this year. Among the incidents was the 1995 mailing of a videotape to >Disneyland, showing two hands mixing chemicals and a note threatening an >attack on the theme park. Despite a major investigation, the sender was >never caught. Just last April someone sent a petri dish labeled anthrax, >an animal disease deadly to humans, to the B'nai B'rith headquarters in >Washington, D.C. That proved to be a hoax. >But other threats appear to be quite real. Four militia members in >Minnesota were convicted recently of planning to assassinate federal >agents with a biological toxin. In Ohio in 1995, a white supremacist >pleaded guilty to wire fraud in illegally obtaining three vials of >bubonic plague bacteria. Investigators have found biochemical agents in >the hands of political extremists, extortionists, murderers, and the >mentally ill. U.S. News has learned that the FBI has 50 current >investigations of individuals suspected of using or planning to use >radiological, biological, or chemical agents. Bureau officials say a >major attack in the United States no longer seems unlikely. "The >consensus of people in the law enforcement and intelligence communities >is that it's not a matter of if it's going to happen, it's when," warns >Robert Blitzer, head of the FBI's terrorism section. "We are >veryconcerned." >To prepare, federal agencies have scrambled to set up new >counterterrorism strike forces (story, Page 32). Behind all this is the >very real fear that the world has entered a new stage in terrorism. >Widespread technical education and high-tech communications have vastly >increased the number of people with knowledge of how to synthesize >chemicals and culture bacteria. Books and videos on creating these >substances--and turning them into weapons--are now available on the >Internet, at gun shows and survivalist fairs, and through the mail. >While its effects would be the most destructive, a nuclear incident is >actually the least likely scenario, according to security experts. More >likely, they say, would be a biological weapon attack; a chemical attack >is the next likely possibility. The impact could range from the >poisoning of an individual to sophisticated attempts at mass murder. So >far, the majority have been limited efforts by loners or small groups. >Most worrisome to officials is the possible involvement of more >established, state-sponsored terrorist organizations--such as >Hezbollah--with international reach. >While the number of terrorist attacks, both in the United States and >abroad, has gone down since the end of the cold war, there is a flip >side. Individual acts themselves have grown more deadly, as illustrated >by the Oklahoma City and World Trade Center bombings. In its annual >terrorism report issued last April, the State Department sees a trend >"toward more ruthless attacks on mass civilian targets" and the use of >more powerful weapons. >Threshold crossed. Until this decade, biological and chemical weapons >were the province of superpowers or renegade states like Iraq and North >Korea. But all that changed with Aum Supreme Truth, an obscure sect of >New Age fanatics based at the foot of Mount Fuji, 70 miles outside >Tokyo. Recent court testimony from sect members shows how the cult's >young scientists produced not only anthrax and botulin toxin but also >various nerve agents, including the sarin used on Tokyo's subway. Later >attacks were planned for New York and Washington, D.C. >Still, it is one thing to produce deadly agents and another to use them >effectively. Aum's attack killed only 12 people of the thousands in the >subway system, and on seven other occasions, attempted Aum attacks were >dogged by equipment failures and human error. "Trying to produce 100,000 >casualties is much more difficult than is often stated," observes >Jonathan Tucker of the Monterey Institute of International Studies. >Tucker notes that problems abound with delivery systems, meteorological >conditions, and the agents themselves. Still, he warns that even crude >weapons can easily cause mass disruption. Aum's nerve gas, for example, >was full of impurities, yet it sent thousands to the hospital. >What worries police is growing evidence that others share similar >ambitions. In 1993, two years before the Aum attack, Canadian border >agents stopped an American electrician named Thomas Lavy and searched >his car. They found four guns, 20,000 rounds of ammunition, 13 pounds of >gunpowder, neo-Nazi literature, and $80,000 in cash. Lavy also had >recipes for biological and chemical weapons and a plastic bag filled >with white powder. Had the agents opened the bag, they likely would have >died of respiratory failure and paralysis. Tests showed the substance to >be ricin, a lethal toxin extracted from the castor bean plant. (Ricin, >dabbed on a tiny pellet fired from an umbrella-gun, was used by Soviet >agents to murder a Bulgarian in London in 1978.) The poison is 6,000 >times more toxic than cyanide, and there is no antidote. Lavy had a >quarter pound of the stuff. >In 1995, a man named Larry Wayne Harris was arrested after he obtained >vials of the bacteria that cause bubonic plague (Page 28). Harris is an >Ohio microbiologist and recent member of the white supremacist Aryan >Nations. He says his friends will strike at government officials with >biochemical weapons, if provoked. "If they arrest a bunch of our guys, >they get a test tube in the mail," he told U.S. News. And, he says, far >worse could come. "How many cities are you willing to lose before you >back off?" he asks. "At what point do you say: `If these guys want to go >off to the Northwest and have five states declared to be their own free >and independent country, let them do it'?" Authorities take Harris's >comments seriously. >The recipes for such poison cocktails are available from underground >publishers and on the Internet. One popularizer is an Arkansan named >Kurt Saxon. Through books and videotapes, Saxon has been putting out >ricin recipes for at least nine years. Convinced that the U.S. will be >invaded and that the federal government can't be trusted to defend the >country, he has fashioned various homemade explosives and poisons, >including cyanide grenades and ricin applicators. In one segment of a >$19.95 video, Saxon performs like a sinister Julia Child, blending salt >water and solvents with castor beans. ("Pour in about 4 ounces of >acetone," he says, "and shake it up nice.") "Uncle Fester," another >near-legendary figure in the chem-bio underground, has authored such >family classics as Silent Death, Improvised Explosives, and a guide to >methamphetamine and LSD manufacture. Fester claims degrees in chemistry >and biology, and his Silent Death describes how to produce poison gas, >botulin and shellfish toxins, and ricin. >Similarly, entire manuals for making homemade explosives--TNT, plastic, >napalm--can be downloaded from the Net, as well as plans for building >triggers, fuses, and timers. At least 11 online vendors offer books with >recipes on biological or chemical weapons, including Silent Death and >Kurt Saxon's The Poor Man's James Bond. All are based in the United >States. Adding to the problem, many of the chemicals used to make nerve >gas and other agents have perfectly legitimate uses and are readily >available. "The genie has always been out of the bottle," says one >intelligence analyst. "People are just discovering it." >The genie is also loose in the Middle East. According to intelligence >sources, notebooks and computer files recently seized from Hezbollah, >the Iranian-backed Islamic militia, contain information on how to >produce chemical agents. Hezbollah has also taken delivery of protective >gear, including gas masks and bodysuits, and obtained Katyusha rockets >able to deliver chemical warheads to Israel from their base in Lebanon. >Hezbollah's interests are shared by at least one other Islamic >terrorist, Ramzi Yusef, a trained engineer and reputed mastermind of the >1993 World Trade Center bombing. Yusef's organization researched making >sarin and reportedly planned to assassinate President Clinton in the >Philippines with phosgene gas. The trade center bombers also packed >cyanide into the charge that rocked the building; the chemical >apparently evaporated in the explosion. >Some analysts believe there have been other, unnoticed, attacks in the >United States. "It's almost certain there have been uses of biological >agents that have gone undetected," says Seth Carus, a proliferation >expert at the National Defense University. "Most cases are known because >they came to the attention of law enforcement through informants, not >because of medical authorities." Health officials, for example, were >mystified by a mass outbreak of salmonella poisoning in Oregon in 1984. >The cause--an attack by a nearby religious sect--went undetected until >the cult's demise a year later. >Exotic poisons are attracting not only terrorists but also murderers and >extortionists. Several recent trials have featured ricin as a murder >weapon. Product tamperers, too, are increasingly turning to biological >agents. Says Lori Ericson of Kroll Information Services: "We're seeing >E. coli, cholera, salmonella, HIV." In one British case, microbiologist >Michael Just threatened to contaminate the products of five food >companies with dysentery-causing bacteria. To make his point, he sent >the firms test tubes filled with the pathogen. >Society can likely tolerate the occasional murderer or extortionist >wielding biological or chemical weapons. The greater challenge >undoubtedly will come from those with broader grievances, from >terrorists steeped in extremism and political hatred. Perhaps scariest >of all are the criminally insane, who may bring technical ability, but >little judgment, to their homemade laboratories. Last April, authorities >raided the house of one Thomas Leahy in Janesville, Wis. Leahy, who >takes medication for schizophrenia, was obsessed with creating "killer >viruses" to stop his enemies, both real and imagined, according to >police. He pleaded guilty to possessing ricin, but a search of his home >also found animal viruses and vaccines, staph bacteria culture, >fungicides, insecticides, hypodermic needles, and gas masks. As Leahy >reportedly told his wife, you can "never have too many poisons." > With Douglas Pasternak and Gordon Witkin >*********************************************************************** >BIOWAR-L Biowar/Bioterrorism/Toxins Mailing List >To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)lists.sonic.net >with the following text: unsubscribe biowar-l or subscribe biowar-l >(letter > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: Bell vs. Woodward--justice?
by jbaber＠mi.leeds.ac.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May Writes: > At 6:09 PM -0700 11/10/97, Fabrice Planchon wrote: > >On lun 10 nov 1997 =E0 01:06:08PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > >> > >> Apparently shaking a baby to death is a lesser crime than opposing > >> government fascism and having a continuing interest in chemistry. Well the courts/administration seem to think so. Or at least think that killing a baby is less deserving of punishment that standing against the administration and spreading dangerous (to them) ideas (AP), which is what Jim is realy being punished for. > 279 days. It has been stated over here (by some American Law Professor) that this sentence is only slghtly below the average usually served for this kind of Involentary Manslaughter. Is this just made up because it is what people over here want to hear of is it vaguely accurate? > >think you are shooting the wrong target here ? I mean, I certainly agree > > No, else I wouldn't have written what I wrote. I think that perhaps the emphasis of what you said is being changed by other writers who are hot under the collar about the Woodward case. > I said in two different posts that my main point was about Bell spending > more time in jail than a convicted baby killer. Leaving aside the problem with a system where a judge can overturn the decision of a Jury (I have not seen all of the evidence so have no idea if she is guilty or innocent but if you enter a country you implicitly agree to abide by their laws and legal system, however what is the point of having a Jury if the Judge can do this sort of thing?) then the actual problem is the length of time that Jim is spending in prison and nothing to do with the Woodward case at all. It just goes to illustrate, once again, how laws are selectively enforced and procedures slowed in order to punish people who can not otherwise be punished as much as the administration would like to. Forget Woodward, Free Jim Bell! Jon

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Serious bug in Cyrix.IBM,SGS 6x86 CPU
by Heinz-J�rgen Keller 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There is an article in the latest c't computer magazin about a bug called 'Hidden CLI' in all the 6x86 CPUs including M2. As I do not have access to such a CPU I can't verify it. The code: MOV BX,70h STI again: XCHG AX,[BX] MOV DX,AX JMP again The CPU hangs ignoring all interrupts. Anybody heard about it? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heinz-Juergen Keller hjk(a)[mail.]ddorf.rhein-ruhr.de hjkeller(a)gmx.[net,de] 2047bit PGP Public Key : http://www.ddorf.rhein-ruhr.de/~hjk/ MD5 Fingerprint: 4d33126fbf8c1bcd8e96ba90d99f0bdc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Requires PGP version 2.6 or later. iQEVAwUBNGhOxSZWWJBRAP1VAQE3bQf+KjqPXC5TkvHd21xPOHAtBqhB+28tR2gy hUJ8XHLbtqTIx7RPi82NITuhM0x/diNzXbNsrED5bLGDZ2N/3dvdfAnlC/FetGMQ 8SBYnmbCf5PZyUWBBgC37saWhsXImRoy7S2u2PPxbUpyC/SslWqEzD2kl5EK9wEK 1TOGVdBlPid9yfLtC2/P1L5pMvKfZz2v3lnlifKJyoCFCmq3ZZzgvw9tLe/pDEeS QHgFokrrlMf4/bNzQnemUWR6L8a6/NMFc6TYJqv7iE13GvKG4gLjLZDBsvyaXLSH qgOta0rgPWSqPer8AetgIqvENP8iz6YP6jlQyTTm5qGyDSr5miTMHQ== =MFmw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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InforWar Epilogue 9 / Geigerburg Text
by George Spelvin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The True Story of the InterNet Part III InfoWar Final Frontier of the Digital Revolution Behind the ElectroMagnetic Curtain by TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> Copyright 1997 Pearl Publishing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- InfoWar Table of Contents * Epilogue * M$ Cowboy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Epilogue ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Criminalization of Poverty in Capitalist America by Jalil Abdul Muntaqim (Excerpts) An anonymous poet in the 1700's wrote about crime: "The law will punish a man or woman who steals the goose from the hillside, but lets the greater robber loose who steals the hillside from the goose." If you steal $5 you're a thief, but if you steal $5 million-you're a financier . In the dictionary, the word "crime" means "an act which is against the law." Crime applies particularly to an act that breaks a law that has been made for public good. Crime in one country, the dictionary continued, "may be entirely overlooked by the law in another country or may not apply at all in a different historical period." That was interesting. What that really said was that concepts of "crime" are not eternal. The very nature of crime is sociopsychological and defined by time and place and those who have the power to make definitions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The language of the prevailing Law and Order, validated by the courts and by the police, is not only the voice but also the deed of suppression. This language not only defines and condemns the Enemy, it also creates him; and this creation is not the Enemy as he really is but rather as he must be in order to perform his function for the Establishment..." -Herbert Marcuse ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hence the power to define is an awesome power. It is the power of propaganda. It is the ability to manipulate our ideas, to limit our agenda, to mold how we see, and to shape what we look at. It is the power to interpret the picture we see when we look at the world It is the power to place the picture we see when we look at the world. It is the power to place a frame around the picture, to define where it begins and ends. It is, in fact, the power to define where our vision begins and ends, the power to create our collective consciousness. That kind of social propaganda is not only tremendously powerful, but it is also mostly invisible. {We can't fight what we don't see. Most people accept the images and definitions that we have been taught as true, neutral, self-evident, and for always.} The power to paint the future, to define what is right and wrong, what is lawful and what is criminal, is really the power to win the battle for our minds. {And to win it without ever having to fight it. Simply said, it is hard to fight an enemy who has an outpost in our minds.} ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since 1977, when California had 19,000 inmates in its prison system, the California Legislature has passed more than 1,000 bills lengthening sentences or defining new crimes, often in response to high-profile offenders such as Davis. The result has been a more-than-sixfold increase to today's population of 126,000. Between 1852 and 1984, California built 12 prisons. Since just 1984, California has constructed an additional 16 prisons. But during the decade and a half that imprisonment was soaring, the crime rate in California has stubbornly refused to budge, hovering today at approximately the 1977 rate. Indeed, during 1993 and the first half of 1994, the rate of both violent and property crime actually fell while public fear of crime inexplicably rose. A study by the Center for Media and Public Affairs in Washington, D.C., suggests one possible reason for such a paradox. The study shows that, while the murder rate nationally remained stable between 1992 and 1993, the number of homicides reported on the evening news of the nation's three major networks tripled. Not surprisingly, the report continues, from May 1992 to February 1993, there was a sixfold increase in the number of Americans who rated crime as the country's most important problem. -Three Strikes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Social Dynamics of Crime In the March 12, 1993, issue of the Wall Street Journal an article entitled "Common Criminals-Just About Everyone Violates Some Laws, Even Model Citizens," byline by Stephen J. Adler and Wade Lambert stated: "We are a nation of lawbreakers. We exaggerate tax-deductible expenses, lie to customs officials, bet on card games and sports events, disregard jury notices, drive while intoxicated --and hire illegal childcare workers." The last of these was recently the crime of the moment, and Janet Reno wouldn't have been in the position to be confirmed unanimously as attorney general yesterday if Zoe Baird had obeyed the much-flouted immigration and tax laws. But the crime of the moment could have been something else, and next time probably will be. This is because nearly all people violate some laws, and many people run afoul of dozens without ever being considered, or considering themselves, criminals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- An estimated 1,585,400 persons were incarcerated in the United States in 1995. Correctional authorities held in the Nation's prisons and jails 600 persons per 100,000 U.S. residents. Prisoners in the custody of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, and the Federal Government accounted for two-thirds of the incarcerated population (1,078,357 inmates). The other third was held in local jails (507,044 inmates). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In America, in the l990s, as was the case in England in the 1800s, it is a crime to be poor. The poorer you are, the more criminal you are. If you are so poor that you have no place to live, and you live on the pavement or sleep in a car or in a park, you have committed a crime. It's against the law to sleep on the streets or in a park. If we have no home, it's against the law to sleep anywhere. The Prison-Industrial Complex Crime is big Business The political decisions of the bankers are decisions about who will be poor. Corporate decisions made in the late '50s to remove industry from communities of color were about who would be unemployed. Decisions by developers and bankers about redevelopment (redlining and gentrification) are decisions about who will be homeless. Such decisions affect everyone, but people have no say in the matter. Generally people, especially the poor, have no say in most social and economic decisions that affect their lives. Somehow that is not part of the democratic method of government, and because people have no say in the process, creating homelessness is not criminal, but being homeless is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Membership in the class of people known as 'law-breakers' is not distributed according to economic or social status, but membership in the class 'criminals' is distributed according to social or economic status..." - Professor Theodore Sarbin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hunger and homelessness are deliberately imposed socioeconomic conditions of the disenfranchised large numbers of the American population. This is especially significant when consideration is given to the method and means by which the malfeasance of the powers that be operate to ensure that such conditions stay the same. Thus such pathology ensures the rich get richer, while the poor get prison and early death. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Since 1985 the total number of inmates in the custody of State and Federal prisons and local jails has more than doubled to nearly 1.6 million -- an increase of 113%. * * On average, the incarcerated population has grown 7.9% annually since 1985. The State and Federal prison population has grown 8.3% annually, while the local jail population has grown 7.0%. * * Over the 10-year period correctional authorities have found beds for nearly 841,200 additional inmates or the equivalent of almost 1,618 inmates per week. * * At yearend 1985, 1 in every 320 United States residents were incarcerated. By yearend 1995 that ratio had increased to 1 in every 167. -PIAP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Max Weber held that social stratification depends on the distribution of three resources: wealth (economic resources), power (political resources), and prestige (social resources). We are able to determine the social and racial implications of certain classes, then, having a vested interest in crime. It can be argued that because an elite class of criminals is in charge, they commit capital crimes, crimes against society and humanity. The jails are overflowing, but that doesn't seem to help --because the real criminals aren't in jail. They're in the board rooms and in the White House. They are the social policy makers that run this country. And today, they are increasing social repression by building more prisons, creating harsher legal sanctions (i.e. 52 death penalty laws, three strikes you're out), and becoming ever more heedless to the social implications of poverty as an impetus to committing crime. Under their misleadership, over five million people are homeless, 37 million have no health insurance, 30 million are illiterate, 30 million more are functionally illiterate, one million are incarcerated, and 60 million live in poverty and are struggling day to day. Crime is big business in America. Annually the laws are changed to ensure profitability in the industry of crime. Social conditions that serve to maintain levels of poverty, feed the industry of crime, also put stress on the social stratification's of society. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Within the current processes of economic globalization, the establishment of the Joint Venture Program has opened California prisoners to be used as a new labor supply and to be manipulated within the world economy to meet the interests of transnational corporations. Within the global economy, the United States is becoming an increasingly service-based economy, and many of the manufacturing and textile jobs prisoners are supposedly being trained for don't even exist here anymore. Economic globalization has completely altered the relationship between capital and labor that existed within the economy of this capitalist nation-state, where massive increases in incarceration directed at working-class communities and communities of color would formerly have interfered with the interest of many corporations by diminishing the labor pool. The hypermobility of capital has created an economic setting that allows for mass incarceration, because there is no longer a strong economic need for a large, free, unskilled, unemployed population of workers in this country. [27] Capital can easily expand its supply of labor to include any exploitable population of workers throughout the world, including incarcerated workers. The Labor of Doing Time ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Given the fact that America is a nation of criminals as elucidated in the Wall Street Journal article, social conflict is inevitable. It then becomes a matter of identifying the real culprits of crime, and seeking the means to have them become accountable for their criminal behavior. This may very well include the redistribution of their wealth, and the reorganization of the social contract between the government and the governed. In response to the stratification outlined above, it requires revolutionary nationalist and socialist efforts to formulate a national political agenda and policy that will challenge the prevailing social contract between the oppressed and the oppressor nation. This means revolutionary nationalists and socialists must have a clear and concise mass-line and political program that identifies and explains the nature of poor peoples' oppression, and how they are to be organized to confront their oppression. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: 'Death to Tyrants!'" -Timothy C. May ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- M$ Cowboy [Estevan Mercury, Oct 22, 1997] It's just like advancing to the NHL of the computer world. That was the comparison used by Jeff Sandquist to describe his new job with Microsoft, one of the giants of the computer industry, right in their Redmond, Washington campus headquarters. Sandquist will be leaving his position at SRI Homes (Shelter-Regent Industries) where he has been a design technologist for the past four years, and will hook up with like-minded individuals in Redmond to serve big industry. "I guess I am now a developer support engineer," he said with a chuckle. "I wanted this job because I get to work with cool stuff a year before the public gets to see it." Sandquist said with another laugh. He said one of his teammates is the author of the Inside Active Server Pages, one of the more recent bibles of computerdom. Sandquist explained that active server technology is relatively new to industry and the public. "I can't believe I'm getting this shot," he said. Sandquist starts work at Microsoft on November 3. He'll believe it then. (by NORM PARK of The Mercury) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CJ brought Shelter into the 'Wonderful World of Computers' but he did it in Xenix, not in DOS. DOS is a nice, simple computer operating system that will work fairly well for the uninitiated without giving them a lot of grief. It's fairly primitive, but one can do a tolerably decent job of conducting their affairs in bits and bytes without having to worry about the dark side of their new hi-tech/toy-nology. -Excerpt from "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sloppy Chips from Intel From: Eric Cordian <emc(a)wire.insync.net> To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net By now everyone has probably heard that Intel Pentium and Pentium MMX chips hang when executing the instruction sequence F00FC7C8 even when in an outer ring of privilege or in V86 mode. With numerous small Linux-based ISPs out there, often providing shell services to anonymous customers, or serving customer-provided CGI programs, the existence and public disclosure such an easily exploitable flaw in their CPU's hardware protection mechanism is catastrophic. While today's problem does not permit clandestine entry into a system, since it kills the system when it is exercised, it does raise the question of whether there are other more subtle problems in the hardware protection mechanism, which might enable knowledgeable users to execute an occasional instruction at the wrong privilege level, or otherwise do things which should be prohibited according to the published hardware specifications. Buggy microprocessor microcode can produce very subtle exploitable faults in a chip, which are almost impossible to notice when running ordinary applications and operating systems. Instructions may do the wrong thing only when they follow certain other instructions. There may be rare times when the processor is wrongly interruptible, or when a restricted instruction is not forbidden, or is given access at the wrong privilege level, or with incorrect address translation. Were such features to be deliberately introduced into a chip, in order to permit a backdoor for undetected entry, they could be made completely undetectable, and could depend upon any number of unlikely conditions, or even specific hidden register values, in order to be made manifest. Every microprocessor could even have its own "key" for the activation of such "special features." Unlike UNIX, for which complete compileable source code is available, we know little about what microcode is run through the several million transistors on a typical microprocessor. If sloppy engineering alone produces such dangerous faults, imagine what could happen should industry decide to deliberately cooperate with various LEAs and TLAs. (In the national interest, of course.) The possibilities are truly mind-boggling. Perhaps exploits like tapping Aldrich Ames' PC and crashing Saddam Hussein's PCs en masse were not done by black bag jobs and viri, but by the activation of "National Security" backdoors present in all complex modern microprocessors. * Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive., and tell you that you are free" -Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord & Confusion ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net In the grand tradition of RSA-in-3-lines-of-perl, we present Crash-A-Pentium-in-44-characters: main(){int i=0xc8c70ff0;void (*f)()=&i;f();} -f00fie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: pentium bug/microprocessor design From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri(a)netcom.com> To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net For those of you who don't know, there's actually a minor crisis brewing in chip design. The crisis is that because of the enormous increasing complexity of individual chips, it's becoming statistically impossible to completely test them. There are new schemes in the works by which Intel etc. are trying to deal with this, including a remarkable scheme in which new microcode can be downloaded to the chip. it also involves encryption in which one needs to know the encryption mechanism for the chip to accept the new instructions. apparently it's done in such a way that no one except those who know the encryption can successfully alter the chip. But this does raise a lot of cypherpunks issues such as about reverse engineering etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A.Word.A.Day - vomitorium From: Wordsmith <wsmith(a)wordsmith.org> To: linguaphile(a)wordsmith.org vo.mi.to.ri.um n. A passage or opening in an ancient amphitheatre or theatre, leading to or from the seats. Usu. pl. 1754 Dictionary of Arts & Sciences. I. 129/2 "They were entered by avenues, at the end of which were gates, called vomitoria." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Programmers are the unifying force that supply the energy enabling two separate and unique components, hardware and software, to have a relationship that is capable of productivity and growth. A marriage of matter that could spawn and produce a multitude of children to go forth and do many new things in the world, for better or worse, for good or for evil." "You are society's last hope for thwarting the Forces of Evil gearing up for the final battle, readying themselves to wreak grievous havoc upon the world, such that it has never known. It is up to you to 'raise the torch,' and let the 'light of knowledge' spread throughout the civilized world, in the thread of 'clues' scattered throughout the UNIX operating system, and throughout your programming and your instructions." "You must band together, man and woman, young and old, into a 'Magic Circle' for your own protection from the Forces of Darkness! You must develop your own secret codes and rituals to deal with the Evil Forces which will beset you daily once you set foot on the Path of Righteousness." -Bubba Rom Dos ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Not-News NetWork-- Mohave Desert] Aug 4/97 WHAT DOES A FIVE HUNDRED POUND GORILLA READ AT THE BREAKFAST TABLE? - sog The "Not-News Gorilla NutWork" was rocket-launched in the Mohave Desert early yesterday morning by a rag-tag bunch of paramilitarist computer gurus who unveiled an InterNet Bill of Bytes that included the words, "MicroSoft shall make no laws..." Angered by a self-appointed council of computer industry magnates who have announced their intention to seize fascist control of the quickly burgeoning Information Highway by controlling the definition of all information, the rebels set up a shooting range which contained a wide variety of targets ranging from copies of the Wall Street Journal to life-sized cardboard cut-outs of a hooded figure referred to only as, "a billionaire to be named later." "We have decided on two classes of ratings." explained a tassel- haired young woman as she slid shells into a Winchester Defender sitting on her lap. "On..." she said, lifting the shotgun with one hand, then liberating the hooded head from a nearby cardboard cut-out, before turning back to say, with a Cheshire grin, "...and off." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Estevan Mercury, Oct 22, 1997] Sandquist will be leaving his position at SRI Homes (Shelter-Regent Industries) where he has been a design technologist for the past four years, and will hook up with like-minded individuals in Redmond to serve big industry. He said one of his teammates is the author of the Inside Active Server Pages, one of the more recent bibles of computerdom. Sandquist explained that active server technology is relatively new to industry and the public. "I can't believe I'm getting this shot," he said. "I can't believe I'm getting this shot," he said. "I can't believe I'm getting this SHOT," he said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A.Word.A.Day - vomitorium From: Wordsmith <wsmith(a)wordsmith.org> To: linguaphile(a)wordsmith.org vo.mi.to.ri.um n. A passage or opening in an ancient amphitheatre or theatre, leading to or from the seats. Usu. pl. 1754 Dictionary of Arts & Sciences. I. 129/2 "They were entered by avenues, at the end of which were GATES, called vomitoria." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Once again the Forces of Good have been forced underground, faced with incredulity and disbelief when they try to reveal to mankind that the Evil One is once again afoot in the land, making His plans for the Final Battle. The 'Circle of Eunuchs' find themselves working feverishly to rebuild a silent underground dedicated to enlightening those few that are willing to listen to the Whisper of Light that is being overwhelmed by the Roar of Darkness. ~son of gomez ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Cryptography is like literacy in the Dark Ages. Infinitely potent, for good and ill... yet basically an intellectual construct, an idea, which by its nature will resist efforts to restrict it to bureaucrats and others who deem only themselves worthy of such Privilege." A thinking man's Creed for Crypto/ vbm. * Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin(a)shore.net> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now the Circle of Eunuchs discover themselves locked in a covert battle with Forces that have railed against mankind for Millenniums, facing the disbelief and terror of others in their efforts to enlighten mankind about the Evil Forces once again massing throughout the world in a chilling endeavor to bring us to our ultimate destruction. While we sleep our way through our daily lives, in unawareness, the Movement is spreading through Secret Circles spanning the face of the globe, helping to prepare mankind for the Final Battle. ~son of gomez ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" "InfoWar (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet') Soviet Union Sickle of Eunuchs Secret WebSite ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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InfoWar Epilogue 9 (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet')
by George Spelvin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Your Christmas money is on its way!
by 34972880＠html.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear online friend, I have received this LETTER at least three times in the last 2 months, so I gave in and said "Well, lets see if it really works". To keep a long story short, I have received over $12,000 in cash in less than 4 weeks. I am now and forever a true believer of this money making concept. "What an Amazing Machine the computer is!". John B, Blue Wind Resources, Iowa ************************************************************************ You are about to make at least $50,000 in less than 90 day's. Read the enclosed program: THEN READ IT AGAIN! The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Chris Eckerson. Two years ago, the corporation where I had worked twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past years, I encountered many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends, and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. I truly believe it was wrong for me to be in debt like this. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happened in my life and I am writing to share my experience in hopes that this will change your life financially......FOREVER! In mid-March, I received this program via email. For six months (prior to receiving this program) I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities but the programs I received were not, in my opinion, cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much of a risk to see if they worked or not. One claimed I'd make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it. So, as I was saying, in March I received this program. I didn't send for it nor ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT! After reading it several times to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY- MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting myself further in debt. After I got a pencil and figured it out, I knew that in the WORST possible case I would still get my money back. After determining that the program is LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided.....why not? Initially, I sent out 10,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I didn't need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fill my orders. I am telling you like it is and I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip anyone off" no matter how much money it cost me! In less than one week, I started to receive orders for REPORT #1. By April 13th, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15 TO 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO! My first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was done. By April 30th, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO." Once you have 100 orders, THE REST IS EASY! Relax, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2: 96 more than I needed! So I sat back and relaxed.... By March 19th, I had received $58,000 with more coming in everyday! I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. PLEASE! Take time to read the attached program; IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER! Remember, it won't work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It doesn't work and you'll lose out on a lot of money. REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee of 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100 or more orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $50,000 or more in 20 to 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS! If you choose not to participate in this program, I'm sorry. It really is great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and you are in financial trouble like I was, or if you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Chris Eckerson P.S. Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,500) looks like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "THREW IT AWAY" "I received this program before . I threw it away, but later wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course I had no idea who to contact to get a copy so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another copy of the program. Eleven months passed before it came. I DIDN'T throw this one away and I made $41,000 on the first try. Dawn W., Evansville, IN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "NO FREE LUNCH" "My late father always told me, "Remember Alan, there is no free lunch in life. You get out of life what you put into it. ' Through trial and error and a somewhat slow and frustrating start, I finally figured it out. The program works very well, I just had to find the right target group of people to e-mail it to. So far this year, I have made over $63,000 using this program. I know my dad would have been very proud of me." Alan B., Philadelphia, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM. By the time you've read the enclosed information and looked over the program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program...and one that is legal, could have been created by an amateur. Let me tell a little about myself. I had a profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate....many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND POOR GET POORER". The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich". Inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life. With no risk and just a little bit of effort you can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. Let me also point out that I will not see a penny of your money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices which market this and several other programs here in the U.S. and overseas. By early spring, we hope to be marketing the internet via a partnership with America On Line. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in anyway; it works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting program to everyone that you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000 and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So, my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. NOW IT IS UP TO YOU! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate, you will still make a lot of money! You'll definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU MONEY Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a .5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. To continue with this example, you've sent out 2,000 programs; with a .5% response that is only 10 orders for report #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. One half of one percent (.5%, or 100 people) respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The .5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Finally, those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The .5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 five dollar bills for you....CASH! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE OR EVEN JUST HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONLY 2,000? Believe me, many people will do that and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this was practically nothing. You obviously already have an Internet connection and e-mail is FREE! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing and purchasing e-mail lists. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come into contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all you never have to leave the house except to get the mail. If you believe that someday you'll get the big break that you've been waiting for THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions and your dreams will come true. This multi-level e-mail order marketing program works perfectly 100% EVERY TIME. E-mail is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!. The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using e-mail. Get your piece of this action! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and The Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 60% of all goods and services will be sold through multi-level methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the U.S., 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM's. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. INSTRUCTIONS We at Ferris Mail Order Marketing Business, have a method of raising capitol that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20 to 90 days. Before you say "BULL", please read the program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what we do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi- level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. ORDERS ARE PLACED AND FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately, in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: STEP 1: Order all 4 REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH, (US DOLLAR) and a SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED envelope (Business size #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. Print the 4 report sections and simply clip & INCLUDE the printed clip with the appropriate order. (no mix-ups that way) International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the report requested to the person you are ordering from. You will need ALL FOUR REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. **IMPORTANT! Always provide same-day service on all orders!** STEP 2: Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with yours, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 to REPORT #3, moving that one that was under there to REPORT #4. The name and address that were under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the NAMES AND ADDRESSES CORRECTLY! DO NOT MIX UP or MOVE PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS! STEP 3: Having made the required changes in the NAME list, save it as a text ( .txt ) file in its own directory to be used with what ever e-mail program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk e-mailing and acquiring email lists. STEP 4: E-mail a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. (That's what I did and they love me more now than ever). STEP 5: E-mail to anybody and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get e-mail addresses from companies on the Internet who specialize in e- mail mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35 dollars. IMPORTANT: You wont get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the third REPORT. STEP 6: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REQUIRED REPORTS ***ORDER each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER. Print the following 4 report sections and simply clip & INCLUDE each clip with the appropriate order. (no mix-ups that way) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: BIC P.O. Box 1393 Newtown, PA 18940 USA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: K C Lambeth 115-1 WILLOW TRACE CLEMMONS NC 27012-8815 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: KD Conrad 73 LINCOLN AVE STAMFORD CT 06902-4102 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: BWR377 POBOX 15552 WINSTON SALEM NC 27113-0552 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REMEMBER: ALWAYS SEND SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER. Print the above 4 report sections and simply clip & INCLUDE each clip with the appropriate order. (no mix-ups that way) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CONCLUSION I am enjoying the fortune that I have made by sending out this program. You too will be making money in 20 to 90 days if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. A lack of money hold you back. Very few people reach financial independence however, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material! This is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that cost me pennies to produce and e-mail. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking to send money on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product whatsoever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the products from you, they reproduce and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decision you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORT, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you are buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with program and good luck! "Not being a gambling type, it took me several weeks to make my mind to participate in this program. But conservative as I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was no way that I could not get enough orders to at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders! I will make more money this year than any ten years of my life." Mary Riceland, Lancing, MI ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US POSTAL and LOTTERY laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new company. You can use your own name if you desire. 2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. Remember, your name and Address go next to report #1 and the others all move down one, with the Fourth one being bumped off the list. 4. Obtain as many e-mail addresses as possible to send until you receive The information on mailing list companies in report #3. 5. Decide 0n the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you Send out & the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. Copy the Four reports so you can send them out as soon as you receive an order. Important: always provide same-day service on orders you receive! 7. Make sure the letters & reports are neat and legible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ YOUR GUARANTEE The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this: You must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. This is a must! If you don't within two weeks, e-mail out more programs until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for report #2. If you don't, send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2 (Take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000. Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above GOALS, ALL have reached their $50,000 GUARANTEE. Also remember, every time your name is moved down the list you are in front of a different REPORT, so you can keep track of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY! REALLY! REMEMBER: "HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED NOT HOPE FOR ANYTHING" "INVEST A LITTLE TIME, ENERGY, AND MONEY NOW OR SEARCH FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE."

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Dont feed the Fat man.
by freedoment＠ultramax.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We will recover the last 3 years of Taxes ( state and federal ) Non-confrontational 100% success rate No repercussions As long as you put food in front of a Fat mans face he will eat and eat.....and eat ........and eat,............... until he explodes!! Our government now has a 5.4 Trillion dollar debt !!!! Your share is $20,000 Why would you keep feeding our Bloated Federal government when you don't need to ---- unless you volunteered ???? Learn the truth about your income tax liability and where your money goes !!! Reply with "TAX" in the subject and include your address or call 1- 888- 820-1726 we will mail a 23 page document that explains how this is accomplished. If you have problems with the IRS, we'll get em off your back! Thank you, Freedom Enterprises PS We are not a "tax protest" group. We believe you should pay every cent of tax you legally owe. ************************************************************************** If you are offended by this message please let us know so that we can remove you from our lists - our apologies. You may also want to join: http://www:iemmc.org/ ***************************************************************************

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Re: how's it going?
by privuser＠15058.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IE4 + FOOF = BWAHAHAHAH!
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:06:00 -0500 From: glen(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org To: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Cc: bostic(a)bsdi.com Subject: New IE4 security hole discovered. Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:05:56 -0500 Sender: glen(a)shell.ncm.com Resent-From: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org X-Mailing-List: <0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org> archive/latest/2447 X-Loop: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: 0xdeadbeef-request(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org what were the opcodes to hang a pentium again? -glen Forwarded-by: "Per Hammer" <phammer(a)raleigh.ibm.com> http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/8429.html A new security vulnerability uncovered in Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 will allegedly allow a malicious individual to write a line of HTML on a Web page that will execute native code on a user's machine. Such code could run, create, or delete a file - or do anything a user can do from sitting in front of his machine. Uhm ... "Whops" ? Not that we needed an excuse not to run IE4 anyway, but hopefully this will further deter the "large corporations", who according to Microsoft wants to "run IE4 on all platforms" ... --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Matters of Law
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that one level of the court system has ruled that the First Amendment does not protect Paladin Press against a lawsuit over its sale of the book "Hit Man," it may be timely to mention some of the issues. It is often claimed (here, too) that "anyone may sue." This is true. Just pay a filing fee, etc., and anyone can sue. Alice can sue Bob because he is reading "War and Peace." I can sue Suzie because I didn't like the color of the dress she wore. And so on, so the theory goes. However, the court system need not let the suit proceed. Many (most?) filed lawsuits are dismissed on "matters of law." Thus, Alice's lawsuit against Bob over Bob's choice of reading materials would be thrown out. (And the courts have even taken steps against those who have filed many frivolous lawsuits with the apparent intent of harassment. ) It is in this sense that today's court decision allowing the suit against Paladin to proceed is so pernicious. In a society where free speech and free dissemination of ideas is protected by the First Amendment, a lawsuit to stop others from reading or writing certain thoughts should be thrown out immediately. On a "matter of law." I'm not a lawyer, but my layman's understanding of "matter of law" is that an act must have some element of illegality under the criminal code, or under contract law, before a lawsuit can proceed. Thus, I cannot sue a restaurant because it chooses not to serve my favorite food, nor can Alice sue Bob over his choice of reading materials. Nor should anyone be allowed to sue Paladin Press when no evidence of illegality has been shown (Paladin was not implicated as a co-conspirator in the murder, and the book "Hit Man" is not illegal to sell). I expect the Paladin Press case will go to the Supreme Court now. I hope it does, at least. And it'll be interesting to see if the ACLU supports a politically incorrect case like this. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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(no subject)
by burn81＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Senate Hearings on PCCIP
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Peter Neumann and David Wagner, we offer a transcript of Senate hearings on PCCIP, including statements on encryption: http://jya.com/pccip-hear.htm (71K)

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Re: Matters of Law
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >I expect the Paladin Press case will go to the Supreme Court now. I hope it >does, at least. And it'll be interesting to see if the ACLU supports a >politically incorrect case like this. A reminder that the consitutional issues of "Hit Man" and similar cases are reviewed in the Department of Justice's April 1997 report to Congress, "The Availability of Bombmaking Information, and the Extent to Which Its Dissemination May Be Subject to Regulation Consistent with the First Amendment to the United States Consitution": http://jya.com/abi.htm (196K)

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Re: Matters of Law
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It is often claimed (here, too) that "anyone may sue." This is true. Just >pay a filing fee, etc., and anyone can sue. Alice can sue Bob because he is >reading "War and Peace." I can sue Suzie because I didn't like the color of >the dress she wore. And so on, so the theory goes. YMMV, depending on locality. Some places require a lawyer to certify that the lawsuit has (in hir opinion) at least a reasonable chance of succeeding. That may not apply in small claims court, tho. >(And the courts have even taken steps against those who have filed many >frivolous lawsuits with the apparent intent of harassment. ) They can go after the aforementioned lawyers for this, too. One of Scientology's lawyers, Helena ("The Kobra") Kobrin, has been sanctioned for filing frivolous lawsuits on behalf of that cult.

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1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Ruling that the right to a free press doesn't cover a how-to-kill book, a federal appeals panel said the families of a hired killer's victims may sue the publisher of a book that he consulted. A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied First Amendment protection to ``Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors,'' saying publisher Paladin Press knew it would be used by murderers. ``The Supreme Court has never protected as abstract advocacy speech so explicit in its palpable entreaties to violent crime,'' the panel said in its ruling Monday. The book was sold to James Edward Perry, who was convicted of killing Mildred Horn; her disabled 8-year-old son, Trevor; and the son's nurse, Janice Saunders, in Silver Spring, Md., in 1993. The women were shot between the eyes and the boy's respirator was unplugged. Perry is on death row for the murders, and Lawrence T. Horn, Mrs. Horn's former husband, was sentenced to life in prison for hiring Perry. Horn's motive was to collect $1.7 million from a malpractice settlement that his son Trevor won from a hospital after the accident that left him a quadriplegic. Paladin has never challenged Perry's claim that he followed some of the 130-page paperback's advice. ``This decision says that if you're in the business of helping instruct murderers on how to slaughter innocent women and children, you aren't going to find any shelter in the First Amendment,'' said Howard Siegel, an attorney for the families. Paladin Press, based in Boulder, Colo., plans to ask the full 4th Circuit to review the panel's decision and will seek a Supreme Court review if necessary, said Lee Levine, the publisher's attorney. The appeals court ''did not sufficiently take into account the First Amendment implications of holding the publisher of a book legally responsible for actions of someone reading the book,'' Levine said. The lawsuit was supported by victim rights groups, while The Washington Post Co., The New York Times Co. and other media organizations filed briefs supporting Paladin's position. In 1996, U.S. District Judge Alexander Williams ruled that the victims' families could not hold Paladin liable because of the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech. The appeals panel sent the case back to Williams for trial. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: WSJ reports today on the increasing conservatism of the military and disputes about the pretense of civilian control, with some officers calling for responsible action to compensate for societal breakdown. It cites several examples of military members preparing for war at home, as mentioned here earlier by Attila and others, with two Marine writers claiming that the next Somolia will be here. This, coupled with reports on LEA inheritance of military equipment and lavish civilian funding to fight terrorism, portends more than Jim Bell (Tim May?) -type sniper takeouts. Free fire zones may be in the offing, or surgical wasting of underground bunkers and germmakers (troublemakers). Wrathful Mars sees no innocents, so preaches the terrorist freedom warfighters pursuing a dream of winner take all, so sorry constitutional fundies, we're the warmonger biz. ----end quote Evidently they assume a one sided strategy. Wrathful Mars has little memory of recent history.

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Tygar cracks SET (was Re: Freeware SET?)
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:11 pm -0500 on 11/9/97, Donald E. Eastlake 3rd wrote: > The SET reference implementation was written only with a concern for protocol > correctness and essentially no concern for operational usability. It is not > clear to me that a product could be based on it without a lot of additonal > work. But I suppose it might be useful for hacking... At Doug Tygar's talk at Harvard last week, he claimed to have found a way to crack it. I, um, forgot to press him on this. Has anyone heard about this, or what it might be? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nospam-seesignature(a)ceddec.com writes: > I believe in separation of church and state. The state must get out of > things like education and welfare (charity) and other things that are not > their responsibility. > > The mistake was when the courts ruled that prayer could not occur in > public (government) schools. The very next day, every government school > should have been closed down (this would also have shown the court that it > should be careful with its rulings). And society would not have > experienced as much decay as it has. Amen! I remember when as a young teacher I used to lead my third grade class in our daily devotional to Ba'al and Ishtar. It got everyone off to a good start and kept us grounded in proper moral values throughout the school day. (Of course every year there was some small group of malcontent parents pissing and moaning about this and wanting me to lead the class in Christian prayers! Can you imagine?) Society just hasn't been the same since. Everything's going to hell in a hand basket. -- Ba'al-Boy

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(Fwd) Gotta love the Supreme Court
by Jim Burnes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Whew.. Well I hope we don't have to depend on the Supreme Court for further privacy decisions..... > >U.S. High Court Denies Strip-Search Appeal > > By James Vicini > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Supreme Court let stand Monday a ruling > that public school officials did not violate clearly established > constitutional privacy rights by twice strip-searching two girls in > the second grade. > > The justices left intact a U.S. appeals court ruling that the > officials may be guilty of "questionable judgment," but could not be > held liable for money damages for an unconstitutional search of the > 8-year-old girls. > > The case began May 1, 1992, when a teacher and a school counselor in > Talladega, Ala., conducted the strip-searches after a classmate > reported $7 missing from her purse. > > Another classmate accused one of the girls, Cassandra Jenkins, of > stealing the money and putting it in the backpack of the other girl, > Oneika McKenzie. No money was found in the backpack. > > The two girls were taken to a restroom and told by music teacher > Susannah Herring to remove their clothes. They were told to come out > of the toilet stalls with their underpants down to their ankles, which > they did. > > No money was found on the girls or in their clothing. After a trip to > the principal's office, the girls were taken by Herring and guidance > counselor Melba Simon back to the restroom for another, unsuccessful > strip-search. > > The parents of the two girls sued for damages under the civil rights > laws, alleging violations of their constitutional right to be free > from unreasonable searches. > > A federal judge dismissed the lawsuit. A divided appeals court in > June upheld the decision, ruling that the teacher and counselor enjoyed > partial immunity from the constitutional claim. > > The appeals court said that in 1992 the law involving searches of > students at school had not been sufficiently developed to place the > educators on notice that their conduct was constitutionally > impermissible. > > The Supreme Court in a 1985 ruling gave school administrators greater > flexibility to search students, but said they still have a legitimate > right to privacy and added that the search cannot be "excessively > intrusive." > > Attorneys for the two girls appealed to the Supreme Court, arguing > that the appeals court decision conflicted with the 1985 precedent. > They said the appeals court decision sent the wrong message to > "school officials nationwide." > > They said school authorities may strip-search students to prevent > imminent danger from the possession of weapons or illegal drugs, but > they may not use intrusive searches for "the most minor suspected > infractions." > > The attorneys said Supreme Court guidance was urgently needed on the > extent of constitutional constraints on strip-searches in schools. > > Attorneys for the teacher and the counselor urged that the appeal be > denied, saying the appeals court correctly decided the case. The > Supreme Court turned down the appeal without any comment or dissent. > "THE BILL OF RIGHTS: Void where prohibited by law." jim

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Hettinga wrote: >So, my overall point is, Tim, that you shouldn't try so hard to be a crash >test dummy for the new world order. Throwing rocks at cop cars is great fun >when you're say, 12, but doing it when you're 40 can do bad things to your >permanent physical health in rather short order. Revolution is really a >young man's game. I mean, even the IRA guys want to retire... ..................................................... Not to cut into Tim's War here, but Bob - The Truth is everybody's "game". If a person is content with a lot of nonsenical static on their connection to Reality, it's their decision if they wish to tolerate it - and it's true they could leave it to someone else (younger? wiser? more courageous? better equipped?) to take up the cause of cleaning it up. It is also true that one can create around oneself a Reality full of monsters and tigers and bears (oh, my!), totally leaving out the rest of the functioning elements in the actual context of the given circumstance. A person could focus so exclusively on the evil which permeates the social atmosphere, that they miss out on the opportunities available for achieving improvements by normal, rational, peaceful means. (I read once that Steve Jobs, during his Eastern Mystic Religion phase and his trips to India and such, realized that the introduction of and advancement in certain innovative, industrial tools had done more for the cause of civilization than any other efforts - political, religious, or otherwise - to improve it. When he went home he kept this in his philosophical file as he went forth with his ideas on a computer which would "change the world". And he did have some very positive, revolutionary effects on artists everywhere. :>) ) Perhaps you mean that *violent* revolution is best left for the young. But you must acknowledge that the situation *could* get really bad, as bad as he imagines. It may not be wise to threaten the mad dogs into aggression, but there is value in publically identifying the fundamental poisoning of the intellectual air we are breathing; there is no reason to forfeit ground for the sake of the delicate sensibilities of predators in sheep's clothing. Tim being so fortified with guns & ammo, he may feel more free than anyone to speak fearlessly (carelessly?). Of course, it's easier to display courage when your defenses are established & strong (and he does sound like a hammer looking for a nail). .. Blanc

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Re: 1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > At 9:42 AM -0700 11/11/97, Eric Cordian wrote: > >A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied > >First Amendment protection to ``Hit Man: A Technical Manual for > >Independent Contractors,'' saying publisher Paladin Press knew it > >would be used by murderers. > > > >The book was sold to James Edward Perry, who was convicted of killing > >Mildred Horn; her disabled 8-year-old son, Trevor; and the son's > >nurse, Janice Saunders, in Silver Spring, Md., in 1993. The women were > >shot between the eyes and the boy's respirator was unplugged. > Having skimmed the "Hit Man" book, I can tell you it conveyed no unique > information about how to shoot someone between the eyes and unplug a > respirator. If I recall correctly, it suggests the back of the neck/head as the Miss Murderer proper point of entry for small projectiles. The instructions on how to build a silencer were very useful, but neglected to mention that being smart enough to follow the instructions didn't necessarily mean you were smart enough to use it properly. A word of advice...if you forget to take the steel rod used to align the silencer out of the barrel before you use it, it stings like a bitch when you shoot. > If this Paladin case is not overturned, it will mean the "death through > lawsuits" of nearly all publishers of even slightly controversial material. > Loompanics will go, Delta Press will go, etc. "Unintended Consequences" > will be withdrawn by the publisher and the author will be sued. "The Turner > Diaries" will become a contraband item. I wonder if any kids reading the Bible have murdered big guys by using a slingshot? Sounds like a case for censorship, to me. > And why not sue other publishers and bookstores? Maybe a book on abortions > helped a woman perform an illegal abortion. Maybe a book about fighting for > liberty provided "abstract advocacy speech so explicit in its palpable > entreaties to violent crime" (and so it is unprotected, according to the > courts). Perhaps the British could launch a class-action suit against the author of the Star-Spangled Banner, and have it banned. They could use Jimi Hendrix's Woodstock version to work the jury into an emotional frenzy against it as an anthem for drug-addicted freaks. > But in many ways, this is good news. The war is coming faster than I thought. <muffled explosions in the background> > The judge in this case has committed a capital crime. Better have our fearless leader, Jim Bell, convene a Melatonin People's Court, immediately. (The rest of you guys signed and returned the 'secret oath' that Jim sent last week, too, didn't you?) :: B o o t s

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Re: WARNING: Serious Pentium Bug
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ray Arachelian wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, [iso-latin-de] Heinz-Jürgen Keller wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > The german Chaos Computer Club distributes a Dos/Win binary (f00fc7c8.com, > > 5 Bytes :-) ) and a linux version. > > Have a look at http://www.ccc.de . > So has anyone yet developed an ActiveX component of this? :) Heheheh... > come to my site and watch your pentium crash. Heheheheheh! Jeff Sandquist? > =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== > .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. > ..\|/..|sunder(a)sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ > <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ > ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. > .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... > ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================

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Washington Post on dangers of self-censorship for the Net
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[The Washington Post has it right. This is what many civil libertarians have been warning about for months: the industry and some advocacy groups (who should know better -- http://www.netparents.org/summit_part.html) are falling over themelves in a rush to label, sort, and filter. They hope to stave off a CDA II. But their frantic scurrying is "voluntary" only in the sense that "voluntary" is newspeak for the threat of government censorship. --Declan] ***************** The Washington Post November 10, 1997 EDITORIAL; Pg. A20 'Self-Regulation' and the Net CLOSE WATCHERSs of the long-running TV ratings fight could read it as a series of tussles over exactly how far the government can go in pushing the proprietors of an expressive medium -- such as TV -- to curb that expression through "voluntary" action. When do carrot-and-stick become just stick? That story isn't over yet: Congress, though antsy, has so far managed to stay on the safe side of the line that separates pressure from outright censorship, and the different responses of different networks is ironic proof that the policy isn't completely coercive. But those who want to see yet more variations on the theme can watch the whole pattern play out again in White House efforts to encourage self-regulation on the Internet. The administration, after coming to grief over its dogged support for the unconstitutional Communications Decency Act, now takes the position that it's up to software providers, parents and citizen groups to make the Internet safe for children, though the government has a beefed-up role to play in enforcing existing laws in cyberspace, for instance, those against child pornography, stalking or harassment. As an accompaniment, though, it is putting considerable public pressure on Internet players to develop a system of ratings and "taggings" for sites that would allow parents to sort Internet access by a few broadly agreed-upon categories. In a July announcement of steps taken by several large software companies to include "family-friendly" sorting features in their browsers, the president emphasized the importance of law enforcement and parental involvement alike in making sure "we do not allow pornographers and pedophiles to exploit a wonderful medium to abuse our children." The vice president, praising the various filters on the market, called them "safety belts for children traveling the Information Superhighway" -- though surely he's the only person who still calls it that. Last week, though, Ira Magaziner, the administration point-person on Net issues, took a different tone in a speech to Internet advertisers. The "tremendous economic benefits" of the Net won't work, he said, "if we don't get efficient industry self-regulation on issues like privacy and content. . . . If you fail, we will have to go the legislative route. That gets caught up in the political process and will be less rational and efficient." Well, yes -- and also less legal. Don't get us wrong: Self-restraint, in some of these cases, is a pretty good place for the providers of what's now called "content" to end up. But the line between urging self-restraint and threatening government censorship is a thin one. The White House, no less than Congress, needs to watch its step.

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Re: Databasix conspiracy theories
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Andy Dustman wrote: > Note that these comments apply primarily to the cracker remailer. > On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Anonymous wrote: > > Perhaps the next wave of attacks on remailers will not consist of > > attempts to shut them down altogether but to progressively cripple them > > by getting certain features disabled, one by one. This seems to have > > already started. The strategy seems to be to fabricate a form of > > "abuse", anonymously through remailers, for which the seemingly > > "logical" solution is to disable a certain feature. This has already > > proven successful with header pasting, for example. Now you can't post > > to Usenet and set the From: address to that of your own 'nym. I think this has not only "already started," but is already reaping exactly the results intended. The remailer attacks are very similar to age-old methods of censorship and control by government and society. Those who define the 'problem' have taken a large step toward directing/controlling the 'solution.' The 'final solution' to remailer spam is to host it @dev.null, but then you end up with a sick, twisted entity like the TruthMailer. <sounds of CypherPunks screaming in anguish, as they slash their wrists> > > If the "camel" can get his nose under the tent and convince operators > > to start filtering on the *CONTENT* of the Subject: line or body of > > usenet posts, the anti-privacy nuts will have scored a major victory. > > In fact, from reading Jeff Burchell's posts, it looks like Gary and his > > DataBasux-ers had initially convinced Jeff to do exactly that. But, in > > a symbolic victory for freedom of speech, he removed those filters for a > > week before he finally shut down Huge Cajones altogether. "If I make the Subject: line, "Make $$$ Fast," then the person who I am anonymously ratting out for murder/molestation is not likely to read it, if there is a copy automatically saved somewhere by the software." My point being that a remailer operator has no way of knowing what the ultimate effect of *any* filtering/blocking will be. (Unless you read all of the email, like I do as the 'Bad Remailer' operator.) > Cracker does have a spam-bait mangler which is somewhat simpler than the > scheme Jeff used. In a nutshell, if there are an inordinately large number > of addresses (compared to other text), the addresses are mangled, i.e., > president(a)whitehouse.gov becomes president <AT> whitehouse <DOT> gov. > Still human-readable but useless for address harvesters. No posts get > dropped or filtered out under this scheme, and no keywords or particular > addresses are looked for. PLATITUDE WARNING!!! "When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that your original objective was to drain the swamp." It has been my experience that the 'Fear of Spam/Abuse' is beginning to be the controlling factor in the usefulness, or lack thereof, of an increasing number of remailers. In my opinion, any form of blocking/filtering which is not described in the remailer-help documentation defeats much of the purpose of providing remailer service in the first place. In particular, the very fact that people become confused as to what is, or is not, 'acceptable' use of a remailer tends to lead to a decline in their use. Increasingly, as well, the knowledge that vaguely described filtering/blocking is being done by the remailer leads one to become confused as to what is an unacceptable 'method' of using a remailer. I cannot help but feel that there has to be some simple ways of addressing the spam/abuse issue without making the remailers a hit and miss proposition for the average computer user. e.g. - A stated policy of allowing only 'X' number of emails from the same address/ISP per day--UCE spammers *could* work around this, but they make money by speed and volume, not by farting around with this-and-that. This would immediately eliminate the spammers who are only capable of hitting the return key on their spamming software, leaving the operator free to take specific actions against anyone who does take the time and trouble to circumvent the policy. And someone who has gone to all of that trouble, only to get an email saying, "It didn't work.", is likely to move on to greener pastures fast. What I am getting at is that all an operator really needs to do to eliminate volume-abuse/spamming is to make it 'difficult' for those spamming, not 'impossible.' Remember that the UCE spammers need to send *millions* of emails to survive. When spam became a problem, I joined an anti-spam list and a UCE spammers list. Serious spammers do the same. I think it is important to take the time to *notify* those who you are filtering/blocking, even if it means searching their messages for an email or snailmail contact point. Remember that one reason these people send out the volume they do is that they *need* volume to survive. If you don't notify them that their time and resources are *wasted* by using your remailer, then they will have no reason not to drop you as a route for their spam. I used to see people on the UCE/Spam list bragging about how they were sending 10,000 emails a day through 'X', and 'Y' and 'Z', and then see sysadmins/operators at 'X', 'Y' and 'Z' posting to the anti-spam list, complaining, "I'm spending all of my time dumping 10,000 emails a day from some asshole." I believe that remailer operators should provide examples/details of how any filtering/blocking policy is instituted, in order to inform those who wish to use the remailer, and to discourage those who want to abuse your policy. Subject and Content filtering are a never-ending merry-go-round in which you block "Make $$$ Fast," <including my own spam-spoofs "Make $$$ Fast at Home, Licking Your Own Dick!!!">, and the spammers switch the Subject: line to "In Reply To Your Email." <you all know the drill...> If an operator wishes to block whitehouse.gov from abuse by psychotic child-molesting, terrorist CypherPunks (like yourselves), then it should be stated plainly in the remailer-help, for the youngster who mistakenly thinks they have sent a plea for help to the whitehouse, or another .gov site, or an AOL site, or whoever you use your policy to block. I know the problems faced by those providing public remailer services, and I appreciate the efforts/problems of the operators. I help people running private remailers for specific groups needing privacy and security, and it is still not a piece of cake. My problem is in many ways the opposite of many remailer operators. I have people who sometimes need to send out several hundred emails to people in a manner where they can reply anonymously, and have run into filtering/blocking problems which seemed to change randomly, at times. So I can sympathize with those who have few computer skills and give up on remailers because "...they don't seem to work." My concern is that efforts toward total abuse-security will result in the same convuluted dysfunctionality that results from those seeking total privacy-security (without ever achieving that, either). Blocking/Filtering == Censorship! I recognize the need for each remailer operator to set their policy according to their own individual situation, as it may be better to allow threatening letters to legislators only one day a week than not to provide the service at all, but I think it is important to make it as clear as possible what the policy is, and how it is instituted, so that remailers can be more than just toys for the computer literate. I also think that the remailer-help sent out should contain some way for a potential user to bypass remailer policy, if necessary. e.g. - "I run a suicide support list and need to send/receive several hundred emails sometimes. Please reply to me at the *real* address I am providing, as to whether you can allow me to send that many per day through your system." Blocking/Filtering == Censorship! Certainly there are those who seek to invent newer and better forms of 'abuse' in an attempt to exercise disruptive power over the remailer operator, but it has been my experience that those who engage in those activities in order to fight perceived 'hypocrisy/censorship' are much more likely to target those who do not clearly explain their policies and the reasons behind them, as well as asking for feedback from those who disagree, or think they have a better idea. There will always be those who attack remailers who have a policy of 'censoring' life-threatening letters to legislators, or 'censoring' pictures of Mickey butt-fucking Minnie addressed to children's lists. What is important to remember is that they have a right to their view, and to push the envelope, or yank your string, or whatever. As a remailer operator, it is *your* role to enforce whatever policy you personally believe in (or need to institute in order to survive as a remailer). It is also your burden to bear, to figure out how to do so without negating the goals that have inspired you to offer the service, in the first place. Personally, I think that remailers are one of the most important remaining providers of tools supporting freedom of speech/communication on the InterNet. I and many others appreciate the service much more than is apparent from the ratio of thank you's to fuck you's that you receive, so you should all give yourselves a couple million pats on the back. (Except for those greedy assholes at Cracker...and the Commies who run Replay...and the Mountie Jackboots running Jam...and the Godless anarchists at bureau42...and all those operators sucking John Gilmore's cock..and......

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"Lynch mob mentality" at Senate violent music hearing
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*************** [Forwarded with permission. --Declan] Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:53:02 -0500 From: Nina Crowley <crowleyn(a)ultranet.com> Subject: Senate hearing summary Hi, This is really long but I think everyone should get a sense of the lynch mob mentality in last weeks Senate subcommittee hearing. Senate Subcommittee Hearing Senator Sam Brownbacks subcommittee hearing on the possible effect of music violence on society was a major disaster for music and freedom of expression. The hearing, held on Nov.6, for 2 hours, had a very restricted list of speakers. For the two weeks previous to the hearing I and many others applied to testify and were denied. Brownbacks staff member in charge of overseeing the panels was Cherie Harder. (Ms. Harder appeared in the Oct. 19 MTV special "Fight for the Right" representing Empower America.) Ms. Harder was doggedly dedicated to preserving the short and biased list of speakers, refusing to consider additional speakers or an extended hearing time allotment. Senator Brownback (who on Wednesday seemed open to exploring the issue) took a totally different tack in his opening statement. He outlined societys current ills including a jump in teen suicide, pregnancy, crime, and drug use. He talked of a "sense that we have lost ground" (in the war against teens perhaps? nc) and that society has grown "coarser, meaner, and more alienated". He reports that "there has been a marked increase in explicit violence and misogyny in popular music". (Sen. Brownback offered no reference to statistics which support any of these statements. His stated belief that "research, debate and discussion" were needed was certainly not carried out in this biased and, it seemed at times, rehearsed condemnation of popular music. nc) He said "The most appropriate place to begin that inquiry is with the music itself." (It is astounding that he could make this statement after refusing requests from several major recording artists over the previous two weeks! nc) He cited the songs "Mo Thugs" or "Slap a Ho" by Dove Shack and shock rockers Marilyn Manson and Cannibal Corpse as examples of problem songs and artists. (These are the same songs and artists that were attacked by C. Delores Tucker, Wm. Bennett, Sen Lieberman, and Sen. Nunn in May of 1996. Can you cite a rise in violence in music if you dont take the time to listen to new artists? nc) Sen. Brownback went on to quote a Carnegie Foundation study (these are the same people speaker Dr. Stanley Roberts wrote for in 1990) which shows teens spending less time with their parents and more time listening to music. He ended with saying that "it stands to reason that prolonged exposure to such hate-filled lyrics . . . could have an effect on ones attitudes, assumptions, . . . decisions, and behavior. Understanding the nature and extent of the influence of music violence may well be the first step . . . for ensuring a more civil society." Senator Joseph Lieberman was the first to testify. His testimony began here and continued from the dais. At the conclusion of his testimony he took his seat next to Senator Brownback on the subcommittee and preceded every question to a panelist with another 3 or 4 minutes further outlining his beliefs. He effectively manipulated the situation to provide himself with 2 hours worth of pontificating and captive media attention. He spoke of our "broken culture", our "surreal, Alice-in-Wonderland" culture in which kids our better armed than police, we celebrate brazen luminaries like Dennis Rodman, and "dont seem to blink when prominent corporate citizens sell music to our children that celebrates violence". He cited tv shows like Foxs "When Animals Attack" and video games like "Postal", and advertisers like Calvin Klein as perverse and degrading. (He also mentioned the songs Brownback did but spelled Ho wrong.nc) He wants to take a close look at gangsta rap, stating that rappers celebrate murder and mayhem on their cds then live it on the streets which led to Tupacs and B.I.G.s deaths. He also outlined FBI investigations of Death Row as evidence of the kind of people who produce this music. He, as did every one of the speakers said Im not "talking about censorship". He wants corporate responsibility on the part of recording companies, particularly Seagrams and Sony, adoption of basic standards for music, Seagrams to "dump" Marilyn Manson, and said "In the meantime, I hope the RIAA will consider improving its one-size-fits-all labeling system". I urge you to go to Liebermans website at: http://www.senate.gov/member/ct/lieberman/releases/r110697c.html to read his statement in its entirety. The next speaker was Mr. Raymond Kuntz of Burlington, ND. He tearfully related the story of his sons suicide. When his wife went to wake their son for school they found him dead of a gunshot wound, still wearing his headphones with Marilyn Mansons Anti-Christ Superstar cd still in the player. The boys favorite song was "The Reflecting God", the lyrics to which were included in Mr. Kuntz packet. He also included,(and entered into the record) an interview with Marilyn from the June 96 issue of High Times. Mr. Kuntz, in his statement called MM a "drug fiend" who publicly uses drugs and, who takes LSD and then goes to Disney World. He reported that MM, during his shows has exposed his genitalia, sodomized himself with a stick which he then threw into the crowd, and asks fans to spit on him. (Keep in mind here that after each testimony, Sen. Lieberman would repeat and expound on the most "heinous" anti-music facts in each presentation. After this one he shook his head and said something like ~imagine asking people to spit on you in this time of Aids~. nc) Dr. Frank Palumbo, of the American Academy of Peditarics, is a practicing pediatrician from Washington DC. He referred to the AAP Committee on Communications policy statements of December 1989 and 1995 as the official statements of the Academy. (new paragraph in his statement - does this mean that what follows are his thoughts, not the thoughts of the Academy - its not clear. nc) He acknowledged the importance of music in a teens identity. He outlined the increase in violence, drugs, and sex in rock music over the past four decades citing heavy metal and rap as being of greatest concern. He quoted lyrics from Nine Inch Nails "Big Man with a Gun" and some MM lyrics as examples. He reports that "To date, no studies have documented a cause-and-effect relationship between sexually explicit or violent lyrics and adverse behavioral effects. But we can all acknowledge the overall effect music has on people." (!?) He stated that music videos may have a significant behavioral impact by desensitizing violence and reported that music videos by Guns-N-Roses and Beastie Boys videos each had 36 violent episodes in performing just one song. (And, back to that war against teens, nc) he referred to a report entitled "Kids These Days: What Americans Really Think About the Next Generation" which decried sex and violence but reported that "only half of those surveyed (49%) think pressuring the entertainment industry . . . will be a very effective way to help kids" and that "perhaps people doubt that the industry will be responsive to public pressure". Dr. Palumbo ended his testimony with a list of recommendations one of which was for the "music industry to develop and apply a system of specific content labeling regarding violence, sex, drugs, or offensive lyrics,". Hilary Rosen, President of the RIAA was the next to testify. Before beginning she entered into the record Mass. M.I.C.s anti-censorship petition directed at Sen. Lieberman among others, containing 7836 sigs. by young people across the country. She also mentioned presenting introducing statements by musicians although I never saw evidence of them. In spite of extensive research in preparation for this hearing Hilary was astoundingly ill prepared. The message by the RIAA in the days preceding the hearing was that pro-music pro-speech forces should try not to upset the Senators. In spite of obvious anti-music sentiments expressed by committee members in meetings previous to the hearing, the RIAA underestimated the seriousness of the attack and was not prepared to push back. Hilary was asked for sales figures for MMs cd and others and "had no idea", when asked for demographic information about purchasers of this and other cds she also had "no idea". Sen. Brownback reiterated those questions several times and was obviously angry that she either didnt know or was hiding something. Hilarys statement began with references to Elvis and teen suicide references in "Romeo and Juliet" (Brownback said he felt it was insulting to even compare MM to Shakespeare.nc) Hilary expressed the industrys concern and gave examples of musicians working to combat teen violence, sex, drug use etc. She cited Heavy D, Ice Cube, and Queen Latifah. (However, RIAA, chose not to facilitate the participation of a prominent rap artist in presenting his concerns to the Senators. Even though they cite his contributions among these others in their research materials.nc) Hilary went on to describe the Musicians Assistance Program and "our"(?) Rock The Vote campaign. She said that "by no means" are our "artists perfect" and reported that there were scenes from Chain Saw Massacre or NYPD Blue that she would not let a 10 yr. old see. She then reported on the "parental advisory sticker" program and said that "We support efforts to have retailers restrict sales of albums to consumers under the age of 17."!!!! (~This is exactly the issue that got me into the fight to preserve free expression in the first place in 1995. At that time the RIAA was actively fighting cities and states that tried to enforce this kind of censorship. RIAAs attitudes seem to have changed dramatically over these two years. You have to ask yourself how damaging their attitudes toward preserving free expression could be in another 2 years! nc~) Hilary reported that in a record store with 110,000 titles, less than œ of one percent of a stores total inventory will carry a parental advisory logo. (and more than 3/4s of of those titles are by black artists - Hilary didnt say that, I did nc). (Does that mean that mean that stickered product is not meaningful or is expendable? nc) She reported that record company execs constantly make choices to not put out songs which dont meet the test of artistic credibility. (Brownback questioned her on this issue repeatedly. He managed not to say you think MM has artistic credibility but it was clearly what he was getting at.) She encouraged parents to read the lyrics to songs their kids brought home. (Brownback mentioned at one point that he wished lyrics could be printed in the paper!) Hilary also stressed that if a parent disapproves of something their kids bought the record stores would take it back. Hilary said "As long as there is an audience demanding to listen, there will be people willing to produce artists far outside the mainstream." ! (reasons for a war against teens,nc) During questioning after her prepared testimony Hilary stated music stores will not sell stickered product to those under 17, (a fact which is totally untrue and an amazingly stupid and dangerous statement on her part.nc) By the end of the hearing C. Delores Tucker produced a kid who testified as to how easy it was for kids under 17 to buy stickered product, that kids can find out on the street where they can buy - (now Hilary has managed to make stickered product look like an illegal narcotic. Shes also practically told legislators to push for mandatory labeling and restrictions! nc) (Hilary Rosen was clearly not concerned with freedom of expression or in protecting music from the attacks of these Senators. We would have fared better if she had not spoken at all.nc) The final two panelists were C. Delores Tucker and Dr. Donald F. Roberts of Stanford University. Tucker showed up with her blown up photos of Marilyn Manson and had the same inflammatory statements to make against rap and rock. Her testimony was totally unremarkable and there was nothing new (for that reason and because my fingers are about to fall off Ill not go into details. I will forward a copy of her testimony to anyone who would like one.) Unfortunately I did not get a copy of Dr. Roberts testimony. It was brief and significantly similar to Dr. Palumbos in terms of statements about musics effect on young people. Of note is the fact that Senator Lieberman welcomed Dr. Roberts by saying that he was glad to see him and that they had worked together before on these important issues. (enough said,nc). As the hearing was about to end, Ms. Tucker begged that the young boy shed brought along "all this way" have a chance to speak. Brownbacks initial response was that he couldnt allow it because so many others had asked to speak but were refused. Tucker begged a bit more and Brownback consented. The boy testified as to how easy it was to buy "stickered" cds if you were under 17 (which Brownback made sure he repeated a few times) and then the young man described the satanic fans who had invaded his neighborhood before an MM concert "doing violent stuff" like "smashing windshields." At this point Michael Eric Dyson asked from his seat, if in the interest of fairness, he be allowed to speak also. Brownback refused him. (Dyson had repeatedly sought an opportunity to appear at the hearing and Jesse Jackson had written to Brownback on his behalf asking that Dyson be heard, all to no avail). The hearing adjourned to a press conference in the hall. Speakers there were Dyson, myself, and Bill Adler. Mr. Dyson spoke eloquently on the hearings, the bias in the panels, these repeated attacks on rap, and the "mean spirited" tactic of Ms. Tucker among other things. I spoke for a couple of minutes after which Mr. Tucker pushed his way through the crowd of reporters rushing Dyson and saying he was furious at how Dyson had described his wife and that he would "die" protecting her reputation. Several people stepped in to pull Mr. Tucker back while Michael Dyson calmly stood by his previous statements. As Mr. Tucker was pulled away he pointed at Dyson saying that "the next time we meet youd better bring an extra pair of glasses, cause youre going to need them." All of this was caught on film. Security then ended the press conference. Thats pretty much what took place. A real disaster for free speech and for music. Nina Fight Censorship - Listen to the Banned! Mass. M.I.C. http://www.ultranet.com/~crowleyn/mmic.html

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Re: Content controls
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:57 PM -0700 11/8/97, William H. Geiger III wrote: >Once you have given me the keys to unlock and display the data I can save >it, copy it, reproduce it and distribut it. To assume otherwise shows a >lack of understanding of computer systems and moderen OS's. Sure I would >need to write some software and jump through some hoops to do it but there >is nothing that your system can do to prevent me from doing so. Now wether >it is worth the effort to do so will depend on the value of the data >involved. Once you have given me the ability to display the data you have >lost the battle as I can do whatever I want with it. Exactly so. Once able to go into the listener's ears, the viewer's eyeballs, or the customer's whatever, the battle is basically lost. About the best that can be hoped for is to insert some "almost unnoticeable mark"--a watermark, a notch filter (a la early scheme for combatting DAT piracy), etc. And even these "almost unoticeable marks" are easily twiddled away. Unless they are so noticeable that serious image or sound distortion occurs when the marks are removed or obscured. Even purely digital works are easily copied. Even unique IDs per software piece are easily removed (e.g., by having N customers compare and diff out the noncommon bits). --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Selling a Persistent Identity
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- How would you sell a persistent identity with a good reputation? The obvious method of selling the secret key doesn't work because the buyer has to trust the seller not to resell it. This could be solved by revealing your True Name, but that's no fun. A nym with a good reputation for this sort of business could be used, but that wouldn't be any fun either since it could link a series of identities with one source. The only thing I can think of is to have a trusted party who creates and manages the key. When the owner of the key wants to sign something, he or she sends it to the trusted party for signing and transmission. To sell the key, the trusted party is instructed to accept the buyer's messages instead of the seller's. The buyer and the seller never actually possess the key themselves. Is there a better way to do this? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi+FZaWtjSmRH/5AQFS1Qf+OPGg/JLuKVB7nab83W1Yh23woJ/om5pD VDsiawtPAcwBRZhwVfOZltuJvovT7rgU7+Jqp6tzhuD8QApY48BSi36ywz+IQnH8 tLJgGV/g1j/afalEhdaOB13LsoBpYmTLvptK296FvUXYPNYumx3e16M8hJxq8SNF 2Tm3Z+ifH0gRLJKjAhOqyG2iMqnmtIYZzmhavPz6thjrE9nKaEE2PII5T2SP9B/J sNsOJ7sjElWGlxemEGc9uR9wAKV/5qlMRRB8DOdLgcQTndjikvHU5uPb9lLYiSYc 4/nDbZNfe6W+gZj71Utm2Ubwu+x/3+fF46Db7j5e6XSrGCx+EzC7nA== =QIDm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dumb of me to get in the middle of this, but the bloodlust's up: Tim's statements are gutsy and right: there's no gain in self-censoring, shading one's anger to appease the goons of whatever firepower. (Bob, go to end.) Most massive firepower can't focus on or hit exclusively small targets, that's what's a lie about "surgical" strikes. Waste the countryside, yes, hit one rabbit and not the beloved dog and fellow hunter, little chance. What it takes is sharpshooting: a one shot, one target, one pig, one sticker. True, Horushi's snipe worked, it nailed an innocent, though a couple of others died to set him up for his own nailing. True, Waco worked, it charred a crowd of innocents, though a few others got plugged setting up the roast, and the 2nd roast. True, firebombing works, as does mass weaponing --nukes, chemicals and germs -- but indiscriminately, by terrorism of the masses, at the price of also terrifying the citizenry paying for the megadeath heritage. All standoff firepower is limited against the individual by imprecision of the killing machines and cowardice of the operators -- artillery, planes, ships, satellites, take your pick. They savage territory to save the operator's ass, who, as anyone knows who been around these candyass strutters, aint got what it takes to cut the guy's throat who's stabbing your eye. What's my point? Well, for lack of a better word, it's personal courage, going nuts when the time's right, the guts to not shut the fuck up when you're told to by those who're a whole lot bigger, who've got more armaments and thinks they're smarter and more ruthless and meaner and have the troops, rank and medals to back it up. Just remember that most of those strengths are for getting somebody else or a machine to do what is too fucking terrifying to do yourself directly. Do this when the monster accosts: pull your forelock, say sorry sir, then upstab the fucker's groin, as he doubles, hack the cord, he'll go down quivering, then cut out his liver, kick up his green face, squat close, show him the blob, take a bite, chew, savor, swallow, put lip to dying ear, whisper, "tasty." Go home, get a beer, stare the tube, sharpen your tool. Or as maddog Tim sez, lock and load. But look, I'm with Bob, too, my tool's philosophy gone berzerk, trash words, wags, gags, alliterations, mouth shooting. My steel weapons are locked from burglars who scare the shit out of me just by looking like ordinarily ugly wall streeters, that is, like my maddog neighbors eyeing me for junk IPO sales. Sure glad my war's long over, happily getting dimmer, easier to forget the godawful. Hey, it's veteran's day, anybody want to croak and limp to glories past?

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Re: 1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > In the infamous "Twenty-Nine Palms" poll of soldiers, asking if troops > would fire on civilians if ordered to carry out an order, the longer the > soldier had been in the service, the less likely he was to say he would. > (The context of this order is generally believed to be related to a > Department of Defense involvement in the wholesale disarming of the > population under a state of emergency, FEMA or U.N. orders, etc.) Note that "Twenty-Nine Palms" was the military home/liason of those involved in the INSLAW travesty. (Everyone _not_ working for the Department of Justice who can say "Fuck You" to Congress and get away with it, raise your hand.) > This is consistent with the military retireds I know being _extremely_ > anti-government. Usually with a right-wing flavor, but then that is > understandable. It is a fact that we tend to narrow our range of perception when we get involved in any cult/religion/organization and bestow some of our own innate responsibility/authority upon them. Once separated from the group, however, we then tend to regain more control over our individual beliefs and values, whereupon we are more likely to recognize where we stepped beyond or own moral/ethical values while caught up, to whatever extent, in 'group mind.' This has been discussed on the list (e.g. Declan goes to Washington!) and, thankfully, we have a weird enough assortment of not-quite-normal SubGenius Bizzaro CypherPundits to keep us pissing all over ourselves and one another to make the possibility of us becoming dues-paying members of the CypherSheeple Union a remote possibility. A CypherPunk nuking DC would not be a tragedy. What would be a tragedy would be if, after being asked "Why?", he or she turned around to ask 'the group', "Uuhhh...why did I do that, again? Hey! Where did everybody go?" Any physical war or revolution in the future will be largely dependent upon the success of the parallel InfoWar designed to direct (or prevent) the thinking of those who the government provides with weapons and authority. We need as many of them as possible to be smiling inwardly to themselves when they say, "My gun is loaded, Sarge...and I'm 'right behind' you, all the way." LoadAndUnlockMonger

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Re: Gun Control brings on a New Arms Race
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >(A friend of a friend scored a "cold" Glock 17L...$400 in "NQA" >condition, immediate delivery.) What is a "cold" weapon? What does "NQA" mean? Thanks. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi1EZaWtjSmRH/5AQEmVgf/VAzaeo6sgWdNgeBDROt9iZWFZcQi/CZX vvT0cgaOYlSiIKGUKNLqRj8wevyNKQ6fiVLQjMt6zPXCFxzt+BL32NbGOpDZa2Jb YdcGWI3umciOYDxpDMVfnx3W16NiY4rwE5ckj1UnaJHgvut7Y4EtqPjsgcvg86O3 1PhPOxQcCJV+YYIAFu97IYaqkf8L2b+FUNa3DiMqHdTkj2TmbcQWWMPNPPxKIOqJ rMFgN8FSrkh7Js80vdre7Lipg32DyMr6xyzaW5OOxQ5J2IZLZNckn5wNyvulJXio zJyrZEeCwoIW1quHPiiH9/NirjMqw/w0Oi9qvusVKE0az6J6/xLoBQ== =lsaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Secure Hashing for Entropy
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Often we have a source of entropy whose output we use as the input to a secure hash function. Does it matter if the hashing function is secure? I don't think so. All that really matters is that the function hashes evenly so that any input string is about as likely as any other input string to result in a particular hash. Even if the hash function is weak and collisions can be found, if it is even the same level of entropy is still available. Have I got this right? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi7K5aWtjSmRH/5AQHNmgf8DddkfsAzC1xTLmOn1eS8Vsxx7HgxwEOh VGpiRC2D29N+y0z9+JZltiNd298QmfvlArYRXBFAC8dKvznf6HWa/xPetW+KqebQ qOKel9hw3pfT8jeRC6G1M9oarWPjU9jOGLlv/DByCI8EcUVvb3Kk9PxdywFpT289 vEFmfDQObHH9BtQFf2hrphx8FtE8QHWIeJMcA16QfKZX/nel9pWEyaXUfE6Rvwuh 3REctj4E/uoTi4FRBjxgFx4pnraIGqg2wVA8Q/iGr41BxauBgRZ+sMZt0CH/x9cc IAKSUuY709Gme6HEqWLyMDdIDZ3Y24xbd9r3eyjFGZZYeaGwG4KowQ== =Ey6Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Thank You
by Joe Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Bug Bounty: Disappearing Cryptography...
by Peter Wayner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My publisher is preparing to reprint my book _Disappearing Cryptography_. As part of a general maintence scheme, I'm offering a reward of $10.00 for the first person to discover a technical error found in the book. Find as many as you can and win some cash. Naturally, there are some limitations to the offer: * Only the first person to report an error is eligible for the reward. The final decision in the case of a tie, will be up to me. The ties will be broken using the time my SMTP server (access.digex.net) receives the mail. I reserve the right to give out multiple rewards in the case of a tie or a close finish. In fact, I'll aim to do this. I just don't want the situtation to emerge where everyone can send me the same bug report and feel eligible for a reward. * Some multiple errors may only count once. Imagine that the third page was missing from the book. Technically, all following pages would be misnumbered. I reserve the right to group any collection of bugs together and label them one error. I will use this right judiciously to avoid hair splitting arguments, but not to deny people multiple rewards. The more errors that are fixed, the better. * Grammar errors aren't eligible, but I welcome any comments. These disputes are often more issues of taste than rule. -Peter Wayner

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Re: ???
by VME Encryption 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Bill Geiger, My first reacation to your followup letter was getting more upset, and I almost replied with another mad letter. But then I decided to better myself and see who I'm dealing with. I've looked at your web site, and looks like you might be a nice person. So, I tried to figure out the reason for the previous vicious letter that was completely unjustified and the following attacks you placed. I'll take it from the point that you might not know all the facts and explain. If that's not enough, I'm sorry. 1) The million dollars challenge is no longer valid for the last 3 months. 2) The current challenge bares NO monetary prize. 3) VME flowcharts, algorithm AND a working application is in the hands of 250 software companies for evaluation (Microsoft, IBM etc.) 4) We can not put it on the net, due to strict US export rules (as you mention in your web site as well) 5) Our program, flowcharts & algorithm have been filed with the US patent office and will be public domain within a year. If that helps explain our part, I'm glad. And if not, it's o.k. - it's a free country and everybody is entitled to their own mind. It's just feel sheety to be attacked by strangers that knows nothing about you, specially people that you might think should have some interest in keeping the individual right to privacy from government and te likes. We started this challenge with some goals in mind, but fighting with a group of cryptographers was not one of them. If anyone wants more technical data, we'll be glad to submit what we can under the circumstances, if someone wants to keep of flaming us, it's o.k. - but we won't respond anymore. Thanks, Project Management. At 09:17 AM 11/11/97 -0600, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >In <3.0.32.19971110100935.006d91b0(a)ibcnet.com>, on 11/10/97 > at 01:09 PM, VME Encryption <matrix(a)meganet.com> said: > >>I rest my case. Please email me your mailing address for the purpose of >>serving and we'll meet in court. > >Serve whatever you want, I will be glad to forward them to my lawyers. > >Just out of curiosity do you threaten to sue everyone who says somthing >you don't like?? > >BTW: you should keep posting *publicly* I showed the thread from the >CP-List and sci.crypt to my lawyers yesterday. They laughed so hard they >bought me free drinks at the clubhouse. Who knows a few more posts from >you and I may be able to get a steak dinner out of them. :) > >- -- >- --------------------------------------------------------------- >William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii >Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 > >Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice >PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. >OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html >- --------------------------------------------------------------- > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3a >Charset: cp850 >Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 > >iQCVAwUBNGh40Y9Co1n+aLhhAQEeZwP8Cbi4+b1a1x0azGyG5gJm6t2XlW835lxj >7kZy8ejki6Nh3LiEMLjLtwN1SwPu78Gfyubn587qx9yNhuig4VMKvXOGXY3lDN4b >Q6WnAIrLC27oMtllewpJyfICZ01sdqaR8A4X2QkarhHHracn/xDo0EEDEfe6FrsN >NCG9mpjeEyU= >=byvY >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >

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17 Dec '03

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DCSB: James O'Toole on Digital Coupons and Distributed Commerce
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Dr. James O'Toole Open Market, Inc. Digital Coupons and Distributed Commerce Tuesday, December 2, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Jim says, "Open Market's Transact commerce system version 3.0 introduces new Digital Coupon capabilities that enable merchants to create price promotion and special discount offers for their customers. Digital Coupons provide a secure way for an online merchant to easily implement repricing rules that a Transact-based distributed commerce system uses to adjust prices at the point of sale. This talk will include a brief overview of Open Market's commerce product suite and their architecture. I will explain how Digital Coupons work, provide concrete details of how Transact 3.0 processes coupons and their impact on APIs, screens, and smart statements. I will also discuss the implications of digital coupons and similar artifacts on the design of distributed commerce solutions that rely on trusted intermediaries." Dr. O'Toole is a senior member of the research and advanced development staff of Open Market. His current focus is on technology development and software product architecture. In 1997, Jim was responsible for the conception of Open Market's Digital Coupon products. Prior to joining Open Market in 1996, Jim completed his Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, November 4, 1997, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $32.50. This price includes lunch, room rental, various A/V hardware, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men (and no sneakers or jeans), and "appropriate business attire" (whatever that means), for women. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your lunch if the Club finds you in violation of the dress code. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, November 29, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $32.50. Please include your e-mail address, so that we can send you a confirmation If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: January Joseph Reagle "Social Protocols": Meta-data and Negotiation in Digital Commerce February Donald Eastlake SET We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com> . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5 iQEVAwUBNGmx0MUCGwxmWcHhAQH0LAf9FuAYUFQ+gf80qGXkzWOGMQ62FseOal56 +BPlynyDxk9FGAstvm73uDzDJa+Tr+o8kbA29MEIo0CWClUDMuTVOgXWXA4Uroqb /cDjhNG0K1VOvp+zcMQm7RBtLZA52bqjQ8ep/rAH2eKbHPtUk/Iuqh1IODEZY9mv u+RByPLs5eJwNRS0+k/6sbFAzqmJw41Q1KO5uHsXRWX82ZRq0S2XloxwuXTq+teR EXox/s3hk/9vEy/ZZp1Pc2ubWZjsS+CdU+Gv3pGqhQpF/24leapZFgABCD2H7EH/ /fCkt/LFFC0+AbRjYBvYop4uy0a1J+2TQ24KdFDl8P5UOIx5+FVlTg== =vtpD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Some IDIOT called CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL
by VME Encryption 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Paul, I'll ignore all profanities and go straight to the points you make: 1) Never heard of LCSR (or whatever) and we market our product ourself, Meganet Corporation from California USA. 2) AOL, NCR, Perot Systems & dozens other have already looked into the product and contaced us, so yes, they did saw it and liked what they saw. 3) you use a lot of acronyms - what is CMR ? LCSR ? 4) If you've been misinformed, then I hope that straighten it up for you, and if you're still upset about whatever, may god bless you. more info at www.meganet.com If you want more info and can keep a decent language, email us back. If you preffer to keep on flaming, cool for you, but we won't bother answering. p.s. - I wonder if you know what's the source of all the bad rep we've got - nobody knows us and we never posted anything on your forum, so what the heck ? Thanks.

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FRB Crypto Systems
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Federal Register, November 10, 1997 Excerpt from a Federal Reserve Bank announcement: ... the Reserve Banks plan to change their policy for ownership of the encryption boards used by depository institutions with dial and multi-drop connections. These encryption boards are currently purchased and owned by the depository institutions. With the replacement of the encryption boards beginning in the second half of 1998 to enhance the security of the Federal Reserve's communications network, the Reserve Banks plan to purchase and assume ownership of these boards. This approach is consistent with Reserve Bank ownership of other equipment at depository institutions that is required for electronic connections to the Federal Reserve, specifically link encryptors and signaling equipment. Reserve Bank ownership should improve management of the security of the network and facilitate the implementation of an all-electronic key distribution system. This change in policy may affect future-year electronic connection fees, as priced services must recover depreciation costs associated with the new encryption boards. ---------- Are these systems related to Kawika Daguio's comments on PCCIP forwarded by Declan yesterday? Anyone have more detailed info on the boards and link encryptors?

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