December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Announcing a disposable remailer
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Fwd: RNC/Lister's Calls Marines "Dangerous", "Extremists"
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: <Somebody> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:20:08 -0500 (EST) To: rah(a)shipwright.com, <A bunch of other people...> Subject: Fwd: RNC/Lister's Calls Marines "Dangerous", "Extremists" I'm sure you all saw this in the newspapers and on TV. The media were on it like... like..., well, like media in pursuit of Democrats. I don't know why I thought of <one of above bunch> Re: Br'er Tim.... I was sure Bob's mother taught him better than to get into a pissing match with the business end of a sewer. <Somebody's .sig> --------------------- Forwarded message: From: shenry2(a)ix.netcom.com (Sean Henry) Sender: PRESSLIST(a)rnc.org (RNC Press List) Reply-to: shenry2(a)ix.netcom.com (Sean Henry) To: PRESSLIST(a)BRONZE.RNC.ORG (Multiple recipients of list PRESSLIST) Date: 97-11-13 16:29:57 EST RNC News Release November 13, 1997 Nicholson Calls On Assistant Army Secretary To Step Down Lister Calls Marines "Dangerous," "Extremists" Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson today called on Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara E. Lister to resign her position, following a speech in which she referred to U.S. Marines as "extremists," and "a little dangerous." "It's astonishing that Secretary Lister has chosen to denigrate the Marine Corps, and it is absolutely unacceptable to have a person with this kind of mindset in a position of power at the Pentagon," Nicholson said. "For the good of the morale of America's Armed Forces, she should publicly apologize and resign immediately." Lister, one of President Clinton's Pentagon appointees, told a panel of academics and military personnel at Harvard University's Olin Institute in Baltimore on October 26, that "The Marines are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous." "These 'extremists' have fought and died for our country for more than two centuries," Nicholson said, noting that the Marine Corps celebrated its 222nd anniversary November 10. "Service secretaries are supposed to support our men and women in uniform, not publicly degrade their valor. Her remarks serve as evidence of her ignorance about what it takes to assemble and maintain an effective fighting unit." Nicholson, a retired Army colonel, Army Ranger in Vietnam and West Point graduate, said Lister's comments are reflective of what he called the Clinton Administration's anti-military attitude. "Bill Clinton wrote that he 'loathed' the military and he's apparently appointed people who share his anti-military view," Nicholson said. Rising tensions between the U.S. and Iraq also demonstrate the need for effective military leadership. "A person with such a negative attitude toward the patriots who serve in uniform has no business in any military organization," Nicholson said. "With this administration contemplating the use of military force in response to Saddam Hussein's lawless arrogance, it is inexcusable for the Assistant Secretary of the Army to insult the very men and women who would be on the front lines." (Visit http://www.rnc.org for the latest news and information) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: What cypherpunks used to be
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

evolve or die

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

15 Nov 97 at 0:45, Anonymous wrote: > Tim May writes: > >At 10:55 AM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote: > > > >>If you don't speak up when someone says something objectionable, > >>you are implicitly condoning it. Silence gives consent. No it does not. Silence may mean you are to appalled to even post! > >>How many > >>people have objected to Tim May's racist comments? Only one or > >>two. How many objected when William Geiger suggested that more > >>nuclear bombs should have been dropped on Japan? Maybe the little marine was right about that. > >through my archived mail), along the lines of: "I fully expect to > >wake up some morning and hear that some terrorist nuke has > >destroyed Washington, D.C. I can't say I'll be crying." > > Try this: > > : To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com > : From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > : Subject: Snickering at the Compromisers > : Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:03:37 -0800 > : > : For the 3rd or 4th time, I have never advocated terrorism, at > least not of : a physical sort. I have said I hope to see D.C. > nuked, which is hardly the : same as "advocating" terrorism in any > meaningful sense > You admit here that you've said you hope to see D.C. nuked. > > Do you really hope that D.C. gets nuked? Do other list readers > agree? No way. But I feel, at times, it's bad enough to be *reading* that stuff let alone posting about it! > How many people would this kill? Over half a million live in > the city proper, with millions more in the surrounding areas. You > have now said that you would hope to see many of these millions of > people killed. I think "nuke DC" has become almost a turn of the phrase, these days. > It is this kind of support for depraved violence which has poisoned > discourse on this mailing list. It is unconscionable to support > such an act of cold-blooded terrorism. > > You're not even the worst. Other posters have supported this kind > of sickening violence even more openly. No one complains. OK. Here I go. I come down on the complaining side. > Apparently everyone with an ounce of moral sense has left the list > long ago. Nope. Just lurking. > >>At one time the cypherpunks stood for freedom of speech and > >>protection of privacy. Today they stand for guns, violence, > >>threats of terrorism and murder, racism, homophobia, jingoism. Those things all go hand in hand. > >I've been here since the beginning...since before the beginning, > >actually. And I can tell you that the "political incorrectness" was > >the same in 1992-4 as now. Perhaps you recall a little thing called > >Waco that happened around that time? Go back and read the traffic. I first signed on in 1994. > You seem to think that the only problem with Waco is that the wrong > innocents were killed. You have no problem taking out innocents in > Washington D.C. if it lets you get at your enemies. You are no > different from the agents who killed the men, women and children in > Waco. You have no right to set yourself apart from them. You are as > ruthless and violent as the worst of them. > > This list reeks of death and violence. Apparently there is no > problem which can't be solved by killing. Kill the innocents of > D.C. Kill the children in the day care center in Oklahoma City. > Drop more bombs on Japan. Cheer the cold-blooded murder of a > government agent. Kill the children who scrawl graffiti on your > mailbox. Well, I used to say Kill Them All And Let God Sort Them Out back when I was in the military. NoMongerHere

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Re: Jim Bell's Mug Shot
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: >Jim Bell's mug shot from US News (and mine): > > http://jya.com/jbjy.jpg ............................................. Well, John, this is kind of amusing - why in the world did you put your photos together? You could become confused as being associated, you know. .. Blanc

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No Subject
by BSAFE International 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- BSAFEeay alpha 1 is now available! BSAFEeay, also known as BSAFE International, is a public domain implementation of the BSAFE API, implemented outside the US and based on public domain source code which uses BSAFE, such as SETref. BSAFEeay currently implements enough of the BSAFE API to support SETref, with more support coming soon. Combined with SETref, BSAFEeay enables the first entirely public domain SET implementation. For more information and to download, visit: https://www.cypherpunks.to/ BSAFEeay is NOT a product of RSA Data Security, Inc. and you still must license RSA in the US. - -- BSAFE International <bsafeeay(a)cypherpunks.to> https://www.cypherpunks.to/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.0i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNG6bj5M0Bmsl+tm9AQFZuwP/SiLg3ZB6RbZ/+I6Wl8+luIP5fiYgS1Yv ItxyZQ+EHxV5Ud6fSC2PEf2hw2vWo/S77AMSp5jf1I8xCWk6hcfyI/c/5kS3vKzo hmns6B6y2puzfwmtLltuzhgoldxkmh1aFsRnzymuH1NT+jpPjvmCTIVX+7kDAJYR SBfAK0ZO3Zs= =X7Yl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mark Koernke "Mark of Michigan" Arrested Today by WebToday Staff Writers November 14, 1997 Mark Koernke (aka "Mark of Michigan") was arrested on Friday, November 14, 1997. A warrant for his arrest was issued on November 7 in Washteneau County for aggravated assault for allegedly beating up process server Roger Gainer while being served with a summons by the defense lawyers of John Stevenson. Stevenson had plead guilty of being an accessory after the fact in the murder last year of William "Bill" Gleason in Hillsdale, Michigan. More charges are expected to be filed against Korernke and other individuals in the ongoing investigation of the Gleason murder which is often referred to as "the Hillsdale murder." Richard Champion (aka Carl Miller) was arrested two weeks ago for failure to respond to a subpoena but has since bonded out of jail. Bond was set at $22,000. Bill Gleason was reportedly one of Mark Koernke's bodyguards. Both were members of the U. S. Militia. Neither Koernke nor Gleason were ever members of the Michigan Militia Corps Wolverines (MMCW). The MMCW, headquartered in Muskegon, Michigan and is led by Commander Lynn Jon Van Huizen. It is believed to be the largest militia group in Michigan and perhaps the largest in the U. S. Koernke is a resident of Dexter, Michigan and works for the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. He is known for his "American in Peril" video and is a shortwave radio commentator. -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is confirmed as I spoke with John Statdmiller personally 10 minutes ago. Mark Koernke was arrested a few hours ago. Charges are felony firearms possession.Local County prosecuter bringing the charges is Donald Ray of the 14th District. His office number is 313 971 0078 Mark is scheduled for arraignment at 2PM Eastern Time

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Tim May wrote: > At 8:00 PM -0700 9/26/97, Nobuki Nakatuji wrote: > >Does anybody want MISTY algorithm ? > >If you want it,Please send e-mail to me. > > > > I thought we got rid of your sorry ass two weeks ago! > > Go back to trying to arrange "male penpals," which Dejanews shows to be > your activity on the Net prior to this recent playing of Misty. > > You go, chop chop. More of Tim "chop chop" May's racism. This is the man that you claim to have respect for. You must be turning your head away in embarrassment from this offensive behavior. But he's not embarrassed about it, so why should you be? Look plainly at the kind of man you are dealing with, and ask whether he deserves your respect.

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Joichi Ito wrote: >But, I suppose chaos is good. For you and for us. It's always nice to >be reminded that racisms in the US is still alive and >active. Sometime I forget and almost identify with you folks. Wait a second. Are you claiming that because one (1.) racist is on a list, that everybody on the list is a racist? How curious. Could this be an artifact of Japanese culture? I have heard that Japanese culture emphasizes collective responsibilty to a higher degree than in the United States. So, for instance, a group like this one would be both more formally regulated and also informally socially regulated. That is, when Tim makes some sort of comment, everybody else would be somehow responsible for it. I am glad this is not that kind of group. I believe such groups are not very interesting and have difficulty exploring novel ideas. Perhaps it would be better to think of this list as a park which can be visited by anybody in the world. (1. Even that one is greatly in doubt!) Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNG5Rw5aWtjSmRH/5AQENCQf+LQNUA59hnT8jmXue6Hxm687Ujwzo2+fm iFc1TRRXElVW4w2iCUA+HG3NJTHkqeTIlz7gibNN7ZiF4VGOam73Ys4MQsZ8hP9n wFGIPwsS5XYWAo6eGaCclUejT1AMWlyFRS5ErOpCnnMo4JVQiWXdCT80rrVH+eZJ pa3fj3TLrw4W7Pj8l2OgIhaDk0DD1DDTBz3eo1q7js/S5EL6jwnq1i1zy7B8sVEo 8ud6dU/aSS8VTObZrNalzlYd6NU1gigRc3/SxeZUdHH+/Y3dw2+VAILjiEcnGmv6 5q6Qf2mrXjXA6f62ByW+H3VZ+4HcOQ1XjNN9g9UJN0+1kSsfIgaawg== =0U9X -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PGPsdk is now free for non-commercial use
by phelix＠vallnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, PGP has come to it's senses and is allowing non-commercial developers to use the sdk for free. I didn't notice anything too ominous in the license agreement, and they promise a new licensing/prices for shareware and small commercial developers. Perhaps nobody is buying the sdk at it's current highly inflated licensing price. http://www.pgp.com/sdk/noncomm.cgi -- Phelix

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PGPsdk and freeware developers
by phelix＠vallnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just had a thought. How does a freeware developer in the US distribute a program that uses PGPsdk? Would one have to set up an export-controlled web site to make sure them 'bad' foreigners don't get it? -- Phelix

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tim May wrote: > Chiles and his co-conspirators should be shot for high crimes against the > Constitution. After Clinton, Freeh, Kerrey, and the other traitors. Not much ambiguity here, is there? No waffling about what a capital crime is. This is a clear statement that Florida governor Chiles as well as various federal officials should be shot. More deaths, more killings, more murders. That is what Tim May stands for. > Every day that passes, I'm more convinced that McVeigh did the right thing. > Some innocents died, but, hey, war is hell. Broken eggs and all that. This speaks for itself. Only an utterly depraved, sick, and vicious individual could support the killings in Oklahoma City. This is the man who many would say is the most respected on the list.

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May-San says: > At 6:54 PM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote: > >It is astonishing that people like you [Paul "Fatmans" Bradley] and > >William Geiger, who apparently make their living as consultants, > > Their likely clients don't given one whit what comments they may have made > on mailing lists. Tim: Fatmans doesn`t have any clients. He`s just a wannabe consultant. He`s actually an undergrad at some limey univesity, and has too much time on his hands. > Hell, their clients don't even care if they're card-carrying members > of the KKK. Yeah likely. > >Even if you share Tim May's lack of moral constraint, you presumably do > >not also share his wealth. > > Sensitive flowers such as yourself need to move out of places like > Amsterdam and get with the program. Oooo another subtle suggestion that the Journeyman is the anonymous poster. TruthMongrel-San

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The joke's on Joichi (hee, hee)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Joichi Ito wrote: > I'm sorry, but a racial remark is a racial remark. I never said it wasn't > funny and I never said this guy didn't deserve it. But what you said > was racist, no doubt about it, and even if they are funny, I personally > think that racial jokes are stupid and cheap. Heh, heh. Joichi's English is so good that I have been improving my own grammar and spelling in my posts in order to make fun of him through imitating him. ? the Racist Platypus

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Gieger dies in poverty...not!
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > At 6:54 PM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote: > >It is astonishing that people like you and William Geiger, who apparently > >make their living as consultants, feel so comfortable publicly approving > >racist comments directed against the Japanese. Does William expect ever > >to work with a Japanese customer, after suggesting that Truman should > >have dropped additional atomic bombs on Japan? > > Their likely clients don't given one whit what comments they may have made > on mailing lists. Hell, their clients don't even care if they're > card-carrying members of the KKK. Did anyone check out the Heaven's Gate group's computer work? I doubt that many of their customers would not welcome a chance to have them back on board. I've worked in plenty of environments where people had vastly different religious, social, racial and political beliefs, and most people don't (and shouldn't) give a rat's ass as long as they pull their weight. Of course, if enough people complain and picket, or whatever, then a 'cult' or a 'racist' or a 'sexist' can become a business liability, not due to the quality of their work, or their unfitness for the job, but because of the hateful intolerance of those with the 'right' beliefs. Want to experience hateful intolerance? Read your Bible and believe that it states the races should remain separate. You will soon be pointed out as a person who 'hates niggers' and burns crosses on their lawn, etc, etc, ad infinitum. Why? Because those being hatefully intolerant have the 'right' beliefs as to what the Bible says. (Am I a racist if I don't also include an example from the Koran?) The fact that different nations, races and idealists are busy slaughtering one another during various wars never seems to interfere with the balance sheets of the movers and shakers in the financial world. Many of our Presidents since World War II were elected as a result of the proceeds of their family or friends' ill-gotten war gains from supporting the war machines that their own children were fighting against. Little BillyG isn't going to go hungry tonight just because he's snake-bit, onery and mean.

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True Identities of Monty Cantsin and Anonymous Exposed!!!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The V-Chip for PCs, the FCC, and broadcasting on the Net
by Jay Holovacs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:43 PM 11/14/97 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >requirements were intended to apply to any "apparatus designed to >receive television signals" that has a picture screen of 13 inches or >larger. Accordingly, we believe that the program blocking requirements OK boys & girls, be sure purchase your new computer without a monitor. After all, who is to say that your new g-wiz PentiumII MMX or DEC Alpha box isn't going to be attached to a 12" monitor? ;-) Jay

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PGP 5 SDK
by Georg.Uphoff＠uni-konstanz.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know where you can get PGP 5 SDK except PGP.Inc. ? It would be lovely if it be free and under circumvention of U.S. export control ! Thanks in advance. Nappy

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Re: Jim Bell's Mug Shot
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Blanc wrote: >Well, John, this is kind of amusing - why in the world did you put your >photos together? You could become confused as being associated, you know. It's true, Officer Law, Jim and me did associate, here, and still at it, here, with our freely assembled, disputatious co-conspirators and moles. My photo's with Jim's, officer, because he in a jam and isolated, and he's being flaunted by the news story to boost the campaign to intimidate and isolate all us. Bet you think that's great fun, officer. So I confess, officer, that I'm an associate of Jim Bell whether I want to be or not. Confirmed by an IRS letter saying so, sent four times. Your news story, officer, aims to frighten us to hunker in an isolation of fear that it could be any of us being mugged by officers of law, awaiting penalty, indefinitely. To warn us to cooperate, behave, pay tithe, recant, beg for mercy. That shit sucks, officer, made me want to join Jim's lineup, nightmare your babies with my guilty puss.

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Mail interception
by Jason 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, I was trying to convince some friends of mine of the need for crypto in email. They don't however bel;ive it is possible to intercept email on the wauy through. So, does anybody know how to or where i can get information on intercepting email from ? Any help that can be provided would be greeatly appreciated. regards jason

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The World's Easiest Income Opportunity
by 456S15P1008＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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trusting untrusted platforms
by Alexandre Maret 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello Here is the problem: how to make sure that an untrusted computer really run the code you ask him to run. Practically, we can take the example of the RC5 contest. If I ask an untrusted computer to search for the key in a particular sub-keyspace, how can I make sure that this machine really looked for the key, and that it doesn't just say "the key is not in this block, give me another block" just to get higher in the stats... I've heard about smartcards being helped by ATMs, so maybe this could be a direction to look into... Any pointer, info, help, ... very appreciated alex -- \\-----------------------------------------------------------\\ // Alexandre Maret -- Linux : The choice of a GNU generation // \\ amaret(a)infomaniak.ch -- http://www.infomaniak.ch/~amaret \\ //-----------------------------------------------------------//

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Secret Information
by newfile1＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Aces and Eights
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > I call a spade a spade. spade...kettle...black

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Silicon Valley Don't Hire List
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri, Do you think you could get a copy of the list for publication? Sounds like a most controversial blackballer. Especially if it includes the names of the assholes who started it, keep it up to date and use it to win by smearing whoever they can't beat openly. >By the way, someone I know in real life claims that they've seen the "Silicon >Valley don't hire list" and I really am on it. :-)

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Re: auto signing messages Re: perl from Amad3us
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Antonomasia says: > excerpt from Amad3us' script: > > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > > $userID="cypherpunks\(a)algebra.com"; > > $pgp="/usr/local/bin/pgp"; > > $tmp="/tmp/.sig$$"; > > undef($/); > > $post = <STDIN>; > > ($headers,@body) = split(/\n\n/,$post);$body = join("\n\n",@body); > > open(PIPE,"|$pgp -satf +batchmode +verbose=0 -u $userID > $tmp"); > > Real paranoiacs don't put temporary files in world-writeable directories. > > If a hostile user symlinks your majordomo binary (or something) > to /tmp/.sig999 you're going to overwrite it with garbage. Sure. But have you looked at pgp2 source code? (smirks). (Hint, temporary files all over the place.) Amad3us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBNG39iPKMuKFNFivhAQEYuwP/Q5nWBocRDlwVWCppBnI6g+kryko8YGJO PnEQU+ZeTXFtnBlhpylzaz4XX2hx5cfVUtmU+EZ6GsKdu/5ALV7JWZfpRQ7LLY0n kY0xiCDRn5binhXXuMXAJIu6y47KyXgrFQKQWZm7sgAF0p6PCbajMwPUiJEWKpWe TGlzJNCp7OE= =w4G3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Clinton freezes imported assault weapons [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > CLINTON FREEZES IMPORTS OF ASSAULT WEAPONS > > graphic November 15, 1997 > Web posted at: 1:19 p.m. EST (1819 GMT) > > LAS VEGAS (CNN) -- President Clinton has ordered a four-month freeze > on the import of assault weapons while the administration and > Treasury Department officials develop a plan to permanently ban the > weapons. > > Clinton announced his executive order, issued Friday, in his weekly > radio address. > > "I'm not going to let people overseas turn our streets into battle > zones, where gangs are armed like they were guerrilla warriors > halfway around the world, if I could stop it," he told supporters at > a Democratic fund-raising dinner in Las Vegas on Friday. > > The freeze will keep an estimated 1.6 million weapons from coming > into the United States while Treasury officials review a ban passed > in 1994 as part of a larger crime bill. Clinton says overseas > manufacturers are taking advantage of a loophole in the law by > making cosmetic changes that enable the weapons to be imported for > "sporting" purposes. > > Clinton seems to be angered by a recent surge in the number of > permit applications for the modified weapons. > > Officials say firearms importers have obtained permits for the > shipment of nearly 600,000 altered guns, and that an additional 1 > million permit applications are pending. Approximately 20,000 of the > weapons have already entered the country, officials said. > > No more will be imported until the Treasury Department's review is > completed. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms stopped > taking applications last month, the Washington Post reported on > Friday. > > The National Rifle Association says Clinton's order "shows more > hypocrisy and deception than ever before." > > "The guns Clinton wishes to ban from importation conform in every > way to the law Clinton wrote, signed, pledged would rid the streets > of violence in 1994, and trumpets to the press whenever his scandals > get out of hand," said NRA spokeswoman Tanya Metaksa. > > Correspondent John King, The Associated Press and Reuters > contributed to this report.

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Discrimination and Prejudice are Not Necessarily Bad Things
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The recent list discsussion reminds me that not all of you have yet thrown off your knee-jerk reaction to "prejudice" and "discrimination." I'm not surprised to hear high school students, when asked what the world's Number One problem is, cite "prejudice." Or "bigotry." Or "racism." Their teachers have drilled this idea into their heads for most of their school years, and the media does its part with public service announcements, heart-warming after school specials about the wonderfulness of multiculturalism, and so on. But I am surprised that more members of this list have not managed to throw off the baggage of "discrimination is bad" simplemindedness. To be sure, certain forms of racism, bigotry, and discrimination are both irrational and counterproductive. The black man who thinks of all whites as devils is no different from the white man who thinks of all blacks as illiterate criminals. But let's not forget what "discrimination" means. It means choosing some actions or beliefs over others. It used to be a compliment to say someone had "discriminating tastes." (Of course, this sense is still used, and I understand that the sense in which people say "discrimination is bad" is the sense related to unreasonable or irrational beliefs about certain races. But the good meanings of discrimination are tending to get lost in the political correctness baggage surrounding the term.) I happen to believe many, even most, aspects of "black culture" in America today are highly destructive to those who practice this culture. Extremely high rates of illegitimacy (exceeding 70% overall, and exceeding 80% in inner cities, compared to less than 25% for whites overall, and less than 20% for suburban whites). An extreme aversion to professional careers (on average, obviously, not in any particular cases). And so on. My "discrimination" is to avoid these kinds of people, to not hire them, and to urge their culture to change, and fast. (Many black leaders, even Jesse Jackson, are urging the same thing. Even Louis Farrakhan is saying black culture in America is corrupt.) Does this mean I have a morbid fear of black people? Nope. Does it mean I would never hire a black? Nope. (I did in fact help hire a black scientist when I was at Intel.) And I also don't think certain words are off limits to white people. If blacks use the term "nigger" (or "nigga") and refer to black women as "hoes" (whores, in Ebonics), why are these terms then bowdlerized in mainstream texts as "the "N" word" (etc.)? Likewise, if homosexuals call themselves "queers" and "dykes," as in "Queer Nation," "Dykes on Bikes," and so on, how can they object when others use these words? (I know the post-Marxist, deconstructionist claptrap about their reclaiming of patriarchal words, blah blah. It still remains a case of "If we use it, it's OK, but if you use it, it's racist and homophobic.") I really don't care what people do with their bodies, so long as they don't interfere with me in any way. Or force me to subsidize them, or hire quotas of them, or otherwise require me to change what I would do of my own free will. If a store doesn't want to serve homosexuals, or doesn't want to hire men as servers (the Hooters case), this is their basic property right. (And this was recognized in the freedom of association interpretation of the Constitution, even after the 14th Amendment (and its "equal protection" language). It only became a "crime" for a restaurant to disallow certain groups, or for a church to "discriminate against" Satanists, or for a health food store to "discriminate against" 300-pound women seeking employment in the store, etc., after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. More specifically, the "Title 7" nonsense. >From a a liberty, freedom, and property rights viewpoint, anyone is free to do with their property as they wish, to set admissions policies, to invite those they wish to enter (and to exclude others), and so on. The 14th Amendment, more than a century ago, established certain voting and other rights AS RELATED TO GOVERNMENT AND TO THE STATES! Basically, ensuring freedom from slavery, repeal of Jim Crow laws, and other STATE INTRUSIONS into fundamental constitutional rights. Again, rights as they related to the government. The 14th did not say that government had some right to tell a shopkeeper that he had to serve all creeds, colors, and genders. It did not "ban discrimination." And the 1964 Civil Rights Act corrected a few wrongs that had remained after the 14th, mostly related to voting rights and such in the South. Still, many thoughtful persons believed it just wasn't needed, that the 14th was already sufficicent, were it to be enforced, to halt certain government-sanctioned cases of "discrimination." (What might be called "Discrimination," with a capital D, implying state sanction, and not "discrimination," with a small D.) But over the decades following the Civil Rights Act, the language of Title 7 was used to "ban discrimination" (little D), so that a private store or restaurant could not choose whom it wished to serve, for example. More importantly, a business could not choose whom it wished to hire. Hence the lawsuits charging "discrimination." Hence the EEOC and formal quotas. Hence the conflicting laws about employers being _barred_ from inquiring about race or ethnicity while at the same time being _required_ to meet certain EEOC guidelines and quotas. (As I have said here before, when I was out college recruiting for Intel in the late 70s, I was forbidden from noting an applicant's race or ethnicity on the forms I filled out, but I was _required_ to put a small letter on the top of the form, one of the letters in "C O I N S"--Caucasion Oriental Indian Negro Spanish. These letters were so that Intel could obey the law, Title 7 style, and report that it had indeed interviewed (and later hired) the appropriate quotas of Negro and Spanish engineers! One part of the law said it was illegal to hire based on race, another part of the law said it was mandatory. True Orwellian doublethink.) And so now we have the situation where a group of men can sue Hooters demanding to be made into jiggly servers. Never mind that Hooters doesn't want them. Never mind that such suits ought to be (and woudl have been, prior to the Civil Rights Act) dismissed on a matter of law: it isn't a crime for business owners to hire whom they wish. Period. And the language of Title 7 and its descendants has been used to harass businesses. As when the City of Los Angeles decided it did not want a strip club open. It inspected the strip club and found that the "shower dance" stage was not "wheelchair accessible." (!!!) Never mind that the strip joint was not about to hire any cripples as strippers. (Oh, and even though this is the most basic common sense point one can make, that strip joint had better not _say_ it doesn't want cripples, else it'd be hit with a multmillion dollar damage suit the next day.) So, this is what we've come to. The mantra of "discrimination is illegal" has now impinged on basic rights of free association and the basic liberty to say what one wishes. Say certain things today and face a lawsuit. Or a probe by the EEOC and its related agencies. Blacks can call each other niggas and hoes, but let a honkey use these words and he may be in real trouble. Homosexuals can call themselves fags, queers, queens, and dykes, but the rest of us had better use the PC term du jour. If Joe Whitey makes an "insensitive" or "discriminatory" remark, look out. He may even lose his teaching job, or his engineering job at Sun, or be denounced as a racist by Joichi Ito, Protector of Nipponese Unmongrelized Sensibilities. Some discrimination is good. In fact, a lot of it is. Think of it as evolution in action. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: auto signing messages Re: perl from Amad3us
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Amad3us Anonymous (if that is his/her *real* name wrote: > Antonomasia says: > > Real paranoiacs don't put temporary files in world-writeable directories. > > If a hostile user symlinks your majordomo binary (or something) > > to /tmp/.sig999 you're going to overwrite it with garbage. > Sure. But have you looked at pgp2 source code? (smirks). > > (Hint, temporary files all over the place.) For you old farts who have not been out in the real world for a while, you should make note of the fact that the price of memory has dropped, and it is now feasible to implement RAM disks to store temporary files. You can also direct a program to use a RAM trash-disk for its temporary files, wiping it immediately after use without having to worry about fucking up your other temporary files.

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Racism: Wrong or incorrect?
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Racism is one of those very interesting topics to discuss because large areas of the discussion are forbidden territory. Is racism wrong or is it incorrect? The most generally held belief in the United States is that it is wrong to express racist ideas publicly, but that many of these ideas are, in fact, correct. Most white Americans truly believe in their innermost hearts that black Americans are fundamentally more violent, less intelligent, and to be pitied. At the same time, many of these white Americans believe they are committing some sort of sin in having these beliefs. If the belief is true, how can it be sinful to believe it? If it is not true, then why believe it? A good friend was driving through the American South recently. He is not of the dominant racial group. He was involved in more than one scary incident on his drive. What was initially surprising to me was that he said he sort of preferred the South to the North because at least in the South people were more "up front." When you think about it for a minute that makes a lot of sense. Who would want to spend time with people who are patronizing? This can be seen in just about every aspect of the racial policies of the United States government. The fundamental assumption of an affirmative action program is that nobody would actually want to hire a member of the subordinate ethnic group. When somebody chooses to hire based on ethnicity it doesn't hurt their business in most cases. The advocates of affirmative action claim not be racists, yet we rarely find them promoting racial integration in the work place by advertising the fantastic deal which is available by hiring people who are irrationally discriminated against by other employers. We must conclude that many advocates of affirmative action believe that the subordinate group is actually inferior in many ways. It's good for people to discuss their ideas. That's how we arrive at truth and mutual understanding. It is terribly unfortunate that discussions of racism, which is allegedly an important topic, have been methodically discouraged for a number of decades in the United States. On one hand, I would prefer Tim had not made his "go now, chop chop" posts. I would like to see Nobuki Nakatuji stay around, write code, master English, American culture, and Cypherpunk Life. Tim's comments may not promote that. On the other hand, I'm not sure it's a good idea to discourage anyone's explorations into certain highly forbidden areas. Somehow the work of Robert Crumb comes to mind. Crumb has dallied with a number of forbidden racial and sexual ideas. I can't even say I like the feeling or the tone of his work, yet, somehow, there is something of value there which is hard to articulate. Of course, what is most interesting about Tim's comments is that he appears to be out on the end of three bell curves in the United States: 1. He does not believe (I think) that it is morally wrong to have a racist belief. 2. He does not believe racist beliefs are a correct description of reality. 3. He says what he thinks. Another curious aspect of the taboos on racial discussions is the weird racially defined double standard of conduct. Black power is more or less an acceptable topic of discussion. White power is absolutely not. Why? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNG5Jv5aWtjSmRH/5AQEHCgf+KL2HDx4yhn/pDPPuEs4cEW9R6FI4sIfn LJvbuKAEdl0GRs5HmMRvM9I8OtYHJVCNDsmetneHo7ME6Qhc5s5ilvA4mu7oCfcy YKfQmQSM+OvtkHtladI0CY5xUvFkoazzBuXNfnopdK5uY22xm80brT/8tOymdIT6 avSYGbHdNkL70TZ0rRNLmUVTYCO1HLVpuPnL3EbZye51f6vnBkV4R22lr+1NDKPi 6LLpO+WqjZAma7Pymqy6RCzztsnt9YbvxbCZOOWxCrGJAK36ZBFtKs//jp9oenRV Bq7h9Uyut81W9sw5kER1C+CgN+k1ZCM+6UDpGNI6n89uQSHX/x/wog== =hVb9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Clinton on Forces of Destruction and Illicit Arms
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt from the President's remarks to the Democratic National Committee in Sacramento this afternoon: ... But the most likely problems -- there are a couple little babies in this audience, or there were today, and some children -- the most likely problems these children will face when they come of age will be problems that cross national borders -- terrorism, organized crime and drug running, the spread of weapons of mass destruction, chemical and biological weapons and maybe small-scale nuclear weapons. This much nuclear cake put in a bomb would do ten times as much damage as the Oklahoma City bomb did. The spread of environmental problems or diseases across national lines -- we are going to have to, in other words, find ways to cooperate, to keep the organized forces of destruction that are taking advantage of the Internet, the technological revolution, the freedom of travel and the freedom of movement, access to computers and moving money around and all that -- there will always be organized forces of destruction. That is fundamentally what is at stake in the stand off we're having in Iraq today. I don't want you to look at this backward through the prism of the Gulf War and think it's a replay. I want you to look at it forward and think about it in terms of the innocent Japanese people that died in the subway when the saran gas was released; and how important it is for every responsible government in the world to do everything that can possibly be done not to let big stores of chemical or biological weapons fall into the wrong hands, not to let irresponsible people develop the capacity to put them in warheads on missiles or put them in briefcases that could be exploded in small rooms. And I say this not to frighten you. The world will always have challenges. I think the chances are quite good that we can organize ourselves for this challenge and deal with it very effectively. I personally believe that the next 50 years will be far more peaceful and less dangerous for our children and our grandchildren than the last 50 years were. I also believe they will be the most prosperous and interesting time in all of human history -- but only if we do the right things. ... From: http://library.whitehouse.gov/ThisWeek-plain.cgi ---------- For more on the US ban of assault weapons and the US and Mexico's convention to fight illicit arms trafficking, signed yesterday: http://jya.com/piat111597.htm

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Re: RTFM-709 / Email Inteception
by Man In The Middle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there anything else you would like to know about email interception? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ joseph gonzales wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Information Server <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> > > To: Jason <rennie(a)one.net.au> > > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > > Subject: Re: Mail interception > > Date: Saturday, November 15, 1997 6:46 PM > > > > For information on the interception of plaintext email, > > send a reply to this message, with an empty message body > > and with a subject line -- "RTFM-709".

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RTFM-709 / Email Interception
by Man In The Middle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there anything else you would like to know about email interception? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom McCaskill wrote:

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[Fwd: RTFM-79 / Email Interception] RTFM-79 / Email Interception
by Louis J. Freeh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RTFM-709 / Email Interception
by Louis J. Freeh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mr. Belton, Please stop by your local FBI headquarters first thing in the morning. We just need to ask you a few questions. (Bring your passport.) Sincerely, Louis J. Freeh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mike belton wrote:

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Re: This judge needs killing
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> >Paul Bradley writes: >>Judge David Selwood today sentenced 3 writers for the magazine "Green >>Anarchist" to 3 years imprisonment each for their articles in the >>magazine which he concluded incited others to break the law. >>The magazine contained diaries for the previous months animal rights >>activism events and contained articles generally favourable to the cause >>of animal liberation. >> >>Another judge who has richly earned the death penalty. > >Another example of the violent rhetoric which goes without comment on >this list. This is simply untrue. In several instances I have argued against the use of violence as impractical. (It's also distasteful.) Incidentally, who is it that should be creating articles that express your beliefs? Since you haven't seen the quantity of articles opposing violence that you would like, perhaps you wouldn't mind telling us why you haven't been writing them? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNG47rJaWtjSmRH/5AQElxwf9GKTQLbaNwFiXmM+lxg9u8/cFnT5IV8A8 HdCKtRv2vto7nVMygFkbXa+ROcVl9CCI2sgSoNEbAv0sO9oULMYcBoBfnJJmAM+X TYVWhYKx9dFFsFAO160d9gbsU7wm7Z5wvwZGoKt+Bs9+oW7gFURLEThNXmG54J8t Id6+RvPRHduTJEmGB6Fm9upiuls0NVbxEk6B27EFK9GVqOSEJOBW4AVRb3CaIKlJ Js8nrcZLeCVrrUMViLkkl1BSmh8OfgLf9V2blfr0zVu+x2MRy2QU1N2jywdYKJ+2 3rf0yXgmuU46le0dD5WD/xDoQHcwFP347mdH7HmwdVMmw3zp3h82Gw== =Ys/r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: This judge needs killing
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Addressing Tim May, Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> wrote: >Do you really hope that D.C. gets nuked? Do other list readers >agree? How many people would this kill? Over half a million live in >the city proper, with millions more in the surrounding areas. You >have now said that you would hope to see many of these millions of >people killed. There is probably a double standard in play here. (BTW, one advantage of persistent identity is that it creates a context for the discussion which makes it possible to explore deeper ideas.) Very few people eschew violence completely or are overly troubled by the deaths of innocents in the process... >You're not even the worst. Other posters have supported this kind of >sickening violence even more openly. No one complains. Apparently >everyone with an ounce of moral sense has left the list long ago. ..so when you claim that nobody with any moral sense would favor violence, you have essentially declared that most of the human race is without moral sense. It's an interesting proposition, but it is by no means obvious that it is true. Also, it is puzzling that you have singled out a few subscribers to this list for attention. There are literally millions of people all over the globe who are actively involved with planning and executing horrible acts of violence. In this company, the readers of this list are pretty insignificant. I do not know of a single act of violence associated with any list member. In practice, you would be hard pressed to find a more peaceful group anywhere in the world. One of the things that appeals to me about the tools the cypherpunks are developing is the likelihood that they will end war. What percentage of wars are instigated and organized by governments? That is, how many wars can we think of in which a war originated in the population of country and dragged its unwilling government into the fray? I cannot think of any. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNG5O65aWtjSmRH/5AQEuOgf7BsFl/tp5UljPFWQQZH/hDN5koZkc6Jql NFddGqtcMVBPIumDjO1UuHy/whPmivLVEfsxgjX6LIr8N0eY1FREcJRkdSJKtcim PnbZe0FYcHOlnnBKo6SuA3eZIFrH6/zkcVaw9NaH3ewL3v3WfTnm/tio9nKuuWFc tPmDqRJJpAPhaseID4z9Jxlhb1l6Iq50CxoeD0vvjRkFdkx37bwG6zy/rzLSq7Y+ aX7BKUy5qHunYPHHSSot/qwWqLQByK2hwWR/Gm5mF+dQ7Jf+pC5uWUDHMJWJMyod HE89vd2JBMmOz5v4ar89pWGDNGiu9GJp/dW4F2K0ip/qU8Ktwt4YyA== =B0F/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: degree of anonymity
by Jenaer Mixmaster Anonserver 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One blithered: >Now maybe everyone will see what I mean when I say that those on this >list now only stand for guns, violence, threats of terrorism and murder, >racism, homophobia. Speak for yourself, mate! The crypto content is still worthwhile, what there is of it.

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InfoWarriors - Alpha / TEXT
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The True Story of the InterNet Part III InfoWar Final Frontier of the Digital Revolution Behind the ElectroMagnetic Curtain by TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> Copyright 1997 Pearl Publishing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- InfoWar Table of Contents * Predilogue * InfoWarriors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Predilogue ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prologue to 'WebWorld' The great tragedy of it, is that it didn't have to happen. Not at all...we were warned. And yet, still, it has come to this. I don't know why I feel this overwhelming compulsion to go on and on about it. I could have done something. We all could have done something. Perhaps the final epitaph on the gravestone of Freedom will be, "Why didn't somebody do something?" That seems to be the common battle-cry of the legions of humanity that have been sucked into the vortex of the New World Order. None of the imprisoned seem to know that the very phrase itself is reflective of the source of their imprisonment...that this desperate cry of anguish is in no way an antidote for the terrible disease that has afflicted 'Liberty and Justice', and that it is, rather, merely the final symptom of the cursed blight itself. I can hear the rumbling of the trucks as they come up the street, and soon I will be hearing the thumping of the jackboots storming up the staircase, as I have heard them so many times before. But I suspect that this time, the sound will be different, that it will have an ethereal quality about it, one which conveys greater personal meaning than it did when I heard it on previous occasions. This time, they are coming for me. My only hope, is that I can find the strength of character somewhere inside myself to ask the question which lies at the heart of why there is a 'they' to come for me at all...why, in the end, it has finally come to this for me, as for countless others. The question is, in retrospect, as simple and basic as it is essential for any who still espouse the concepts of freedom and liberty to ask themselves upon finding themselves marveling at the outrageousness being perpetrated upon their neighbors by 'them'...by 'others'...by 'Friends of the Destroyer.' The question is: "Why didn't I do something?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- InfoWarriors - Alpha Subject: What Will Revolution Look Like? From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> To: cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM Some of the questions by Mark Rogaski and others ask about the nature of the revolution I and others are predicting and encouraging. What will a just revolution, like those anticipated by Jefferson, Franklin, and others, look like? The British thought the colonial rebels were "playing dirty" by shooting from behind trees instead of marching in bright uniforms with drums and bugles to herald their way. Modern armies think freedom fighters are "terrorist scum" for not fighting honestly and fairly in their own M-1 Abrams tanks and aircraft carriers. So, too, will revolutionaries be seen as fighting "unfairly" and being unethical sneaks, child killers, and terrorists. (As if children and other innocents did not die in various incidents in past wars, on all sides.) When Jefferson predicted that a revolution was needed every 20 years or so, he surely was not saying that throwing one party out of leadership and putting the other party in was an example of such a revolution, or that "campaign reform" is such an example. Nor was he saying that the only valid revolution would be when a bunch of citizens or states got together their own army and marched on Washington. (Actually, raising such an army is in violation of numerous laws about heavy weapons, licenses to carry weapons, etc. No doubt illegal. Ironically.) No, the revolution, when it comes, will likely be different from anything quite like we've seen to date. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: What Will Revolution Look Like? From: Blanc <blancw(a)cnw.com> To: cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM Tim May wrote: >No, the revolution, when it comes, will likely be different from anything >quite like we've seen to date. .................................................... In the revolution against the British, the U.S. was a small colony sitting on a vast "new" land, with the Natives but a minor obstacle to expansion. Presently there is no such unoccupied place which could be claimed for the cause of liberty, and revolutionaries are sitting in the middle of the enemy camp, surrounded everywhere by people who "just want to save lives". You could temporarily send a political message and get your names in the news, but then totally lose the war from being outnumbered and overwhelmed by non-sympathizers. A long time ago it was possible, given the distance of water and land between peoples, to make a break with them physically. The enemy could be driven out, sent "home", and the winners could develop their new living arrangements in the new setting. But there is no new setting to go to, there is nowhere to send the infidels. The life of a new libertarian "society" would have to be created as a virtual one, existing among or in-between the others. Of course the basis of the original setup is still mentioned every once in a while, and so it is still in the minds of everyone, even if only as a dim reference, so it could be said that the most a current revolution could accomplish would be the return of the original ideal to the minds of the population. But I think that it would take much more than a few skirmishes to accomplish that, as it doesn't appear that it carries all that much support. It would be like getting a kid to take down some medicine; many don't really want to live so independently, nor feel the need to identify what kind of life would be the more ideal (i.e. they don't identify precisely the difference between a socialist atmosphere and a libertarian one, nor concern themselves with why they should spend any time worrying about the difference it makes.) An intentional revolution, I fear, would just look like an attempt to make people think. And therefore not taken too seriously. (And if the revolutionaries lose? tough luck. Oh, well. ) .. Blanc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: What Will Revolution Look Like? From: Adam Shostack <adam(a)homeport.org> To: tcmay(a)got.net (Tim May) CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com The distinction between civilians and soldiers, which came about in the 17th and 18th centuries, is close to meaningless in the context of a modern revolution. However, this distinction, and the Clausewitzian claim that war is the continuation of politics by other means, underlay the 'law of war.' War as the continuation of politics implies that the State sends soldiers to war against other soldiers to fight for policy rights. War to gain territory, war over insults or honor, religious war, is seen as a thing of the past. Barbaric. Modern warriors can not understand people who play by other rules. To some extent, this has been good for us civilians. The firebombing of German cities were an exception, not the rule. However, as the anti-colonial movement demonstrated, a people can effectively fight a modern army, and win. They are marked as terrorists, defamed for their capitalist activities such as drug smuggling to finance the struggle, and hanged when caught. A modern revolution, as Mao taught, is based on forcing people to decide if they are with you or against you. There are no neutrals who simply want the status quo to continue, because once the revolutionaries have started to do their job, the state lashes out, passing fascist new laws (see Northern Ireland, Peru, the United States). The status quo disappears, and the revolutionaries are committed. It is only by making starkly clear who stands where that enough people to fuel the revolution can have the manpower to succeed. The alternative to the revolution becomes living under the government that killed your family members. In Algeria, once the first few thousands of martyrs died, every additional person the French killed was a new reason to fight. Surrender, to the Algerians, became inconceivable. Life as French was not worth living. So they fought. When the revolution comes to the United States, it will not be a pretty thing. Our best hope is for a rapid surrender of the current government, which is not likely. By deploying now the tools of communication (remailers, strong encryption, directions for building bombs and traps, cheap radio transmitters), as well as the tools for deception (how hard is it to build a fake GPS transmitter?), and the understanding that the US government has grown cancerous, we bring closer the beginning and the end of the revolution. We bring its start closer by forcing the Government to show its true colors, turning more people against it. We bring its finish closer by having ready the tools to render ineffective the large fighting machines we have paid for, by making it clear that the government does not have the support of the people, and by making it clear that once committed, we will have to fight. So, Tim, we disagree that it will be like nothing seen before. It will be like many modern revolutions, because we can't force the government to fight on our terms today. 20 years later, we will look back, and realize that governments have murdered most of the innocents they will ever kill, because will can deploy technology to make government voluntary. But we're not there, and getting there may be bloody. There is, of course, Duncan's Berlin Wall theory, but I fear things will have to get worse before they get better. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: What Will Revolution Look Like? From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Warmaking is ever changing in response to the last wins and losses. However, winners are less likely to change than losers, for why change a successful formula, publish it, or a well-spun dissimulation. As ever, unknown forms of war are in gestation, being tested and debriefed, in military institutions and wargames, in business, in education, in the amorphous culture at large through legal competition and crime and their variable gray areas where fair and unfair, civilized rules and their breaking, are ever in grim and vicious dispute. While there are piles of studies on organized and guerrilla wars of the past, the most provocative are those that attempt to describe what's coming, how to recognize its early warnings and what can be done to head it off or, more likely, advance it. The highest warmaking art is winning without physical fighting, to outfox the enemy by demoralizing, by demonstrating that attack is futile, that there is no chance of defeating a superior force. That's why military exhibitionism and psy war is reputed among military and political leaders to be as vital as that of brute force, as best exemplified by the Cold War 50-year stalemate and psychological "win-win" to a status of Cool War. To get a handle on what's in store, imagine that completely unbelievable methods of warfare, overt and covert, are being concocted now, composed of strategies, tactics, warfighters and armaments never before used -- and will not be revealed and understood until too late for defense. Try to forget everything you know about warfighting, crime fighting, conflict resolution, rules of engagement, black operations, guerrilla tactics, hiding among the people. Assume the enemy knows everything you know and more, is better armed and smarter than you, has more spies among your supporters and in your most intimate circle. Imagine that your toilet, your bed, your fridge, your car, your is triggered to explode by radio or your computer by your password. Consider that there will be no time to reflect and reconsider when things go catastrophically wrong and the enemy is unrelenting attacking with inhuman viciousness, when you're defenses are crumbling and weapons failing, when mates are squealing, dead or run away, when you can't stop shitting yourself, when your legs are buckling, when your minds racing out of control, when you're begging god and mom for mercy and the upraised ax is descending, the barrel back of head is firing. Remember that who the enemy is no secret to either side, on whichever side you're on, and presume that the emery is more ready and able to cook your goose than you are theirs. What actual war carnage teaches, what the current civil war in the US is showing, is what the TV-sofa war does not: nobody wins, ever, except the mindfuckers who've never gone berserk in combat or in the jobplace, killed friend and foe to save own asses. You only win wars by never having to fight them, those started by weakling cowards unable to steal, cheat and lie well enough to satisfy their demonic lusts. Best to outsmart the enemy in war, work and love, so that what you're up to is revealed only years later if ever. For the best won wars are never known at the time, no parades, no medals, no glory, no war stories, no memorial cemeteries and monuments, no veteran hospitals filled with carrion, just peace and tranquillity shooting deer, harpooning dolphins, rip-tearing the landscape for profligate cowboy wargames riding homicidal freeways. We're all gonna lose our civil war in market place killings and road rage, thanks to today's warfighting lesson in free fire criminal enterprise by those who've never been shot and shot and shot, and lost for good -- the vainglorious winners, the losers desperate to regain glory days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Bell sentencing timed to coincide with raids on militia members? From: "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr(a)together.net> To: "Tim May" <tcmay(a)got.net>, "CypherPunks List" <cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM> On 10/31/97 3:01 PM, Tim May (tcmay(a)got.net) passed this wisdom: >Get ready, folks. By the way, I'll be at the gun show at the Cow Palace in >San Francisco on the weekend of November 8-9, probably Saturday, the 8th. >Seems I'm running low on certain types of ammo, and I may want to pick up a >couple more assault rifles before Swinestein succeeds in completely banning >them. I used to think that way ... but then I thought, why pay all that money and walk the line of whatever Swinestein et al come up with. Instead I have my deer rifles and a shotgun or two and ammo for both. The way this all is working now, I have more combat experience than 90% of the active duty military and most cops, and every day goes by more and more are retiring. If it ever comes down to that, I'll take down one or two of them with my deer rifle and help myself to their weapons and ammo ... also kind of makes sure I haven't set myself up to depend on an obsolete caliber ... if I am not good enough to take some of them down and take their weapons, no 300 nor 30,000 rounds for my very own Armalite is going to make any difference. Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Everyone who lives dies; but not everyone who dies has lived" -- No Fear ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: What Will Revolution Look Like? From: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes(a)ssds.com> To: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com "To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FEMA site using cookies From: Crisavec <dbrown(a)alaska.net> To: cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM Attila T. Hun typethed the following... >> The USMC 29 Palms Combat Arms Survey: >>"The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, >>transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms >>...consider the following statement: >>> I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or >>> resist confiscation of firearms banned by the >>> U.S. government..." > > they were looking for a yes/no answer --no maybes. if anybody thinks >this is a joke --it was not; it was given to most units at 29 Palms, >Pendleton, LeJuene, and Paris Island. the percentage responses were >interesting: men with less than 5 years service were 90% "yes" --grizzled >old NCOMs with 15 or more years were less than 15% "yes." shows what the >federal government educational system is capable of conditioning with a >little help from movies and television. subliminally, was has been >glorified by the merchants of death: arms manufacturers and power hungry >politicians. -- This doesn't surprise me at all Attila. They don't teach the constitution in High School anymore. That accounts for the lower ranks. The NCOM's answers are to be expected, They STRESS Posse Commitais<sp?> and the constitution for ALL noncom's. It's part of the testing for promotion to E-5 and up. Most of the noncom's have been in long enough to be thoroughly disillusioned by the military in general. The only thing keeping a lot of them in is inertia... --Dave Any neural system sufficiently complex to generate the axioms of arithmetic is too complex to be understood by itself. Kaekel's Conjecture ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fwd: psychoceramics: Fighting back against the Government From: Alan Olsen <alan(a)clueserver.org> To: cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM This is an interesting spin doctoring of Jim Bell's situation. I picked this up off the psychoceramics list. Why it was there is unclear... Terrorism's next wave -- Nerve gas and germs are the new weapons of choice BY DAVID E. KAPLAN Jeff Gordon thought he had seen it all. A veteran IRS investigator, Gordon's job since 1988 had been to probe threats and assaults against his fellow agents. There was no shortage in recent years--stabbings, fires, mortar attacks, and big unexploded bombs outside IRS offices in Los Angeles and Reno, Nevada. But in the first months of this year, Gordon found himself working on the strangest case of his career. From an informant, he had learned of a Portland, Ore., man named James Dalton Bell. Bell owed some $30,000 in back taxes and served as a juror in a local "common law court." Dozens of these self-appointed tribunals have issued "fines" and even death sentences against public officials. Bell was also active in antigovernment forums on the Internet, where he had posted a dark scheme threatening murder of troublesome federal agents. Participants could send encrypted messages to each other, Bell proposed, offering donations to whoever "predicted" how long a targeted official would live. The winner, presumably the assassin, would be rewarded with electronic fund transfers from anonymous donors, he suggested. Gordon checked further. Bell, it turned out, was an electronics engineer at a nearby circuit board manufacturer. He was also an MIT-educated chemist who had been arrested eight years earlier for making methamphetamine, but pleaded guilty to a lesser charge. According to court records, Bell had once told a friend: "The first thing to remember is: Never make a chemist angry at you." In February, the IRS docked Bell's wages and seized his 10-year-old car. Inside the vehicle, Gordon found instructions for making bombs and molotov cocktails. There was also far-right literature, a printout listing large amounts of cyanide, and detailed information on fertilizer, a key ingredient in the Oklahoma City bomb. But with no evidence that Bell had hurt anyone, Gordon could not move. A burning stench. Four weeks later, on a Monday morning in March, IRS officials encountered a terrible nose-burning stench as they arrived at their building in Vancouver, the Portland suburb where Bell lived. Investigators traced the smell to a welcome mat dosed with propanethiol. The chemical is used by utilities in minuscule concentrations to give natural gas its noticeable smell. "It's Bell," Gordon told his boss. "I'm sure of it." Bell had attempted twice to buy propanethiol from a chemical-supply company in Milwaukee, Gordon then learned. Worried that the stink bomb was a trial run for something much worse, on April 1, authorities raided Bell's home. They seized five computers and three semiautomatic assault rifles, then opened his garage door. Before them stood dozens of containers filled with chemicals. There were volatile solvents, explosives ingredients, sodium cyanide, nitric acid, and diisopropyl fluorophosphate--one of several ingredients that, if properly mixed, form nerve gas--all in a residential neighborhood. "The level and type of chemicals were extremely unusual," said Leroy Loiselle, who managed the cleanup for the Environmental Protection Agency. "You don't need nitric acid to keep aphids off your flowers." On Bell's computers, Gordon found two other items: the names and home addresses of over 100 public officials--IRS employees, FBI agents, local police officers--and a 169-page document, The Terrorist's Handbook, with detailed instructions for making chemical weapons and high explosives. Bell's friends told investigators that he had tried using green beans to make botulin toxin, which causes botulism, and that he claimed to have successfully made sarin, the nerve gas used by Japanese cultists in their 1995 attack on the Tokyo subway. Bell was arrested. In July he pleaded guilty to charges of obstruction of IRS agents and use of a false Social Security number, and also admitted to the stink bomb attack and the cyberassassination scheme. He faces up to eight years in prison and $500,000 in fines. Bell declined to comment, but he contended earlier that he is merely "a chemical hobbyist" and the assassination scheme only an abstract proposal. "I'm a talker, not a doer," he said. The IRS's Jeff Gordon remains wary. According to court records, after his arrest Bell boasted to a friend that police never found his most dangerous chemical weapons. Gordon believes they could include a secret stockpile of sarin. New generation. Characters like James Dalton Bell are giving federal officials fits these days. Bell, they believe, is one of a new generation of tinkerers and technicians, of college-educated extremists threatening to use biological, chemical, or radiological weapons to achieve their goals. Since the Aum cult's Tokyo nerve gas attack, FBI officials say the number of credible threats to use these weapons has jumped from a handful in 1995, to 20 last year, to twice that number this year. Among the incidents was the 1995 mailing of a videotape to Disneyland, showing two hands mixing chemicals and a note threatening an attack on the theme park. Despite a major investigation, the sender was never caught. Just last April someone sent a petri dish labeled anthrax, an animal disease deadly to humans, to the B'nai B'rith headquarters in Washington, D.C. That proved to be a hoax. But other threats appear to be quite real. Four militia members in Minnesota were convicted recently of planning to assassinate federal agents with a biological toxin. In Ohio in 1995, a white supremacist pleaded guilty to wire fraud in illegally obtaining three vials of bubonic plague bacteria. Investigators have found biochemical agents in the hands of political extremists, extortionists, murderers, and the mentally ill. U.S. News has learned that the FBI has 50 current investigations of individuals suspected of using or planning to use radiological, biological, or chemical agents. Bureau officials say a major attack in the United States no longer seems unlikely. "The consensus of people in the law enforcement and intelligence communities is that it's not a matter of if it's going to happen, it's when," warns Robert Blitzer, head of the FBI's terrorism section. "We are very concerned." To prepare, federal agencies have scrambled to set up new counterterrorism strike forces (story, Page 32). Behind all this is the very real fear that the world has entered a new stage in terrorism. Widespread technical education and high-tech communications have vastly increased the number of people with knowledge of how to synthesize chemicals and culture bacteria. Books and videos on creating these substances--and turning them into weapons--are now available on the Internet, at gun shows and survivalist fairs, and through the mail. While its effects would be the most destructive, a nuclear incident is actually the least likely scenario, according to security experts. More likely, they say, would be a biological weapon attack; a chemical attack is the next likely possibility. The impact could range from the poisoning of an individual to sophisticated attempts at mass murder. So far, the majority have been limited efforts by loners or small groups. Most worrisome to officials is the possible involvement of more established, state-sponsored terrorist organizations--such as Hezbollah--with international reach. While the number of terrorist attacks, both in the United States and abroad, has gone down since the end of the cold war, there is a flip side. Individual acts themselves have grown more deadly, as illustrated by the Oklahoma City and World Trade Center bombings. In its annual terrorism report issued last April, the State Department sees a trend "toward more ruthless attacks on mass civilian targets" and the use of more powerful weapons. Threshold crossed. Until this decade, biological and chemical weapons were the province of superpowers or renegade states like Iraq and North Korea. But all that changed with Aum Supreme Truth, an obscure sect of New Age fanatics based at the foot of Mount Fuji, 70 miles outside Tokyo. Recent court testimony from sect members shows how the cult's young scientists produced not only anthrax and botulin toxin but also various nerve agents, including the sarin used on Tokyo's subway. Later attacks were planned for New York and Washington, D.C. Still, it is one thing to produce deadly agents and another to use them effectively. Aum's attack killed only 12 people of the thousands in the subway system, and on seven other occasions, attempted Aum attacks were dogged by equipment failures and human error. "Trying to produce 100,000 casualties is much more difficult than is often stated," observes Jonathan Tucker of the Monterey Institute of International Studies. Tucker notes that problems abound with delivery systems, meteorological conditions, and the agents themselves. Still, he warns that even crude weapons can easily cause mass disruption. Aum's nerve gas, for example, was full of impurities, yet it sent thousands to the hospital. What worries police is growing evidence that others share similar ambitions. In 1993, two years before the Aum attack, Canadian border agents stopped an American electrician named Thomas Lavy and searched his car. They found four guns, 20,000 rounds of ammunition, 13 pounds of gunpowder, neo-Nazi literature, and $80,000 in cash. Lavy also had recipes for biological and chemical weapons and a plastic bag filled with white powder. Had the agents opened the bag, they likely would have died of respiratory failure and paralysis. Tests showed the substance to be ricin, a lethal toxin extracted from the castor bean plant. (Ricin, dabbed on a tiny pellet fired from an umbrella-gun, was used by Soviet agents to murder a Bulgarian in London in 1978.) The poison is 6,000 times more toxic than cyanide, and there is no antidote. Lavy had a quarter pound of the stuff. In 1995, a man named Larry Wayne Harris was arrested after he obtained vials of the bacteria that cause bubonic plague (Page 28). Harris is an Ohio microbiologist and recent member of the white supremacist Aryan Nations. He says his friends will strike at government officials with biochemical weapons, if provoked. "If they arrest a bunch of our guys, they get a test tube in the mail," he told U.S. News. And, he says, far worse could come. "How many cities are you willing to lose before you back off?" he asks. "At what point do you say: `If these guys want to go off to the Northwest and have five states declared to be their own free and independent country, let them do it'?" Authorities take Harris's comments seriously. The recipes for such poison cocktails are available from underground publishers and on the Internet. One popularizer is an Arkansan named Kurt Saxon. Through books and videotapes, Saxon has been putting out ricin recipes for at least nine years. Convinced that the U.S. will be invaded and that the federal government can't be trusted to defend the country, he has fashioned various homemade explosives and poisons, including cyanide grenades and ricin applicators. In one segment of a $19.95 video, Saxon performs like a sinister Julia Child, blending salt water and solvents with castor beans. ("Pour in about 4 ounces of acetone," he says, "and shake it up nice.") "Uncle Fester," another near-legendary figure in the chem-bio underground, has authored such family classics as Silent Death, Improvised Explosives, and a guide to methamphetamine and LSD manufacture. Fester claims degrees in chemistry and biology, and his Silent Death describes how to produce poison gas, botulin and shellfish toxins, and ricin. Similarly, entire manuals for making homemade explosives--TNT, plastic, napalm--can be downloaded from the Net, as well as plans for building triggers, fuses, and timers. At least 11 online vendors offer books with recipes on biological or chemical weapons, including Silent Death and Kurt Saxon's The Poor Man's James Bond. All are based in the United States. Adding to the problem, many of the chemicals used to make nerve gas and other agents have perfectly legitimate uses and are readily available. "The genie has always been out of the bottle," says one intelligence analyst. "People are just discovering it." The genie is also loose in the Middle East. According to intelligence sources, notebooks and computer files recently seized from Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed Islamic militia, contain information on how to produce chemical agents. Hezbollah has also taken delivery of protective gear, including gas masks and bodysuits, and obtained Katyusha rockets able to deliver chemical warheads to Israel from their base in Lebanon. Hezbollah's interests are shared by at least one other Islamic terrorist, Ramzi Yusef, a trained engineer and reputed mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Yusef's organization researched making sarin and reportedly planned to assassinate President Clinton in the Philippines with phosgene gas. The trade center bombers also packed cyanide into the charge that rocked the building; the chemical apparently evaporated in the explosion. Some analysts believe there have been other, unnoticed, attacks in the United States. "It's almost certain there have been uses of biological agents that have gone undetected," says Seth Carus, a proliferation expert at the National Defense University. "Most cases are known because they came to the attention of law enforcement through informants, not because of medical authorities." Health officials, for example, were mystified by a mass outbreak of salmonella poisoning in Oregon in 1984. The cause--an attack by a nearby religious sect--went undetected until the cult's demise a year later. Exotic poisons are attracting not only terrorists but also murderers and extortionists. Several recent trials have featured ricin as a murder weapon. Product tamperers, too, are increasingly turning to biological agents. Says Lori Ericson of Kroll Information Services: "We're seeing E. coli, cholera, salmonella, HIV." In one British case, microbiologist Michael Just threatened to contaminate the products of five food companies with dysentery-causing bacteria. To make his point, he sent the firms test tubes filled with the pathogen. Society can likely tolerate the occasional murderer or extortionist wielding biological or chemical weapons. The greater challenge undoubtedly will come from those with broader grievances, from terrorists steeped in extremism and political hatred. Perhaps scariest of all are the criminally insane, who may bring technical ability, but little judgment, to their homemade laboratories. Last April, authorities raided the house of one Thomas Leahy in Janesville, Wis. Leahy, who takes medication for schizophrenia, was obsessed with creating "killer viruses" to stop his enemies, both real and imagined, according to police. He pleaded guilty to possessing ricin, but a search of his home also found animal viruses and vaccines, staph bacteria culture, fungicides, insecticides, hypodermic needles, and gas masks. As Leahy reportedly told his wife, you can "never have too many poisons." 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by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I must have been sleeping, but it appears I missed the emergence of another Fleischman-Pons ("cold fusion") style episode, this time having to do with antigravity. Experiments in 1992 in Finland seemed to show that the Earth's gravity could be shielded with a superconductor. This experiment, by Eugene Podkletnov, at Finland's Tampere University of Technology, apparently displayed a reduction in the weight of objects placed above a levitating, rotating high Tc superconducting disk, exposed to high frequency magnetic fields. http://www.virtualpet.com/rbbi/folders/tech/basic/gravity.htm http://www.inetarena.com/~noetic/pls/gravity.html#pandb There are at least three different theoretical models for the effect -- gravitomagnetism, local change to cosmological constant, and outright shielding. Detractors have pointed to possible experimental errors as the cause for the apparent levitation. Gravitomagnetism The coupling of supercurrents to the classical gravitational field is extremely weak. The reason, of course, stems from the smallness of the coupling between gravity and the energy-momentum tensor of matter. One might wonder whether in a quantum theory of gravity - or at least in an approximation of the theory for weak fields - the Bose condensate of the Cooper pairs, due to its macroscopic quantum character, can play a more subtle role than as a simple contribution to the energy-momentum tensor. In other words, we wonder if the macroscopic quantum coherence of the condensate can be taken into account at a fundamental level in computing the interaction between the superconductor and the external gravitational field. Results might then differ from those obtained for the gravitational coupling of "regular", incoherent matter. Shielding It appears that a theory is being developed for simple shielding of gravity, in analogy with the shielding of microwaves by metal. Different materials shield or don't shield EM ratiation at various frequencies; metal shields microwaves, but plastic does not. Pure YBCO superconductors do not shield microwaves, but YBCO doped with small amounts of lead or silver does. They relate this to gravity shielding by virtue of two ideas -- that gravity might have a frequency (very high, on the order of the Planck length, or 10^34) -- a very speculative idea -- and that the bose condensate within a superconductor could radically lower the effective interaction frequency of gravity so that it could be shielded by ordinary matter. On a related note, NASA has Breakthrough Propusion page http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp which outlines their plans and activities to explore (and hopefully perfect) non-mass based propusion technologies. They seem to be taking this seriously enough to form a Delta-G group at their Marshall Space Flight Center to try and reproduce Podkletnov's (and others) experiments. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 Lammar Laboratories | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Mad as Hell
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Nerthus wrote: >In many cases, State Sovereignty is just another phrase for the "Petty >Bureaucrats Reempowerment Act": moral dictators hiding behind the flag >of freedom. > >As for me, I'll take Individual Sovereignty over State Sovereignty on >any day. The 9th Amendment states: [....] ................................................................ The statement from Colorado Senator Charles Duke on the "10th Amendment Sovereignty Resolution" was the first I'd heard of it, so I wasn't aware that it was limited to a vision of smaller States over Larger States. I, too, would prefer a showdown for a recognition of Individual Sovereignty, distant as such a thing may seem in possibility. Only science fiction authors and readers seem to be able to identify individuality out of a mass of "social factors". .. Blanc

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As good crypto-anarchists, no one on this list should care what Tim's views are on race. Your main concern should be a good defense against aggression; if Tim hasn't taken any action to bring harm to others, then there's isn't any need to worry about his opinion. Just lock & load. .. Blanc

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InfoWarriors - Alpha
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: trusting untrusted platforms
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Alexandre Maret <amaret(a)infomaniak.ch> says: > > [how to do trusted computation on untrusted platforms] I'm working on a paper, it's one of the technical hurdles on the way to my Eternity DDS eternity service implementation. > rdl, less frustrated with changing from vtwm/athena to KDE, says: > I so far have been approaching it as "Type I (active)" and "Type II (passive)" > attackers. In the first case, people lie about the results, in the second, > they give you the correct results, but snoop on the data. (For some reason > the terminology is kind of lame, but it helps to have some) > > There are a bunch of mathematical/cryptographic ways of hiding data from > those doing computations on it, at least for a subset of computations. I'm > trying to put together a generalized computing model for this which would be > turing complete if it can be, although it is not clear it can be. Some > operations practically will be a lot more expensive in this model than in > the conventional environment, and perhaps to a computation which would require > 10 units of conventional secret CPU time, you will need 9 units of secret > CPU to encode/decode the data and 41 units of public CPU time. You also need > to guard against covert channels, such as the total amount of public CPU time > you are requesting as a clue to what you're doing with it. I am confident > type II security can be realized with at least a minor amount of performance > improvement over purely secret use, assuming public time is free. > > Type I security is a lot more difficult to realize in true theoretical > sense, but is easier in a practical sense. A simple solution is to do the > same computation on a bunch of different remote machines, and as long as > they don't collude, you can just make sure they all answered the same, modulo > rounding errors and stuff. This isn't the kind of provable security you > can conceivably get against type II attackers, but it doesn't have any innate > performance hit. > > It's possible there are systems which are byzantine fault tolerant to > the former kind of attack -- instinctively, you can just split up the > computation in small enough pieces that you don't care if it is compromised. > > I'm interested in finding a provably secure computation-checksum technique. > I think there are most likely reductions for a lot of problems to things > which can be verified, and again, my goal is to have a Turing-complete > model of computation with this property. > > > [can cryptography be helpful?] > > It's as much a theory of computation problem as anything else, once you > have some functions through which you can carry some operations. > > Most of the stuff I've done so far focuses on the graph coloring problem. > I'm probably going to finish a quick version which can only deal with > a subset of problems, then work on a general model. > > [paper availability issues] > Yes, it will be publically available. It will be available when it's closer > to done; I will send something to cypherpunks about it, and I'll put it > up on the web somewhere. If it doesn't suck, and I can convince someone > at LCS-CIS of this/to be a co-author/etc., I might try to get it published. Anyone know anything very relevant to this? I've mostly just started on the research (my current exciting project has been Linux Fibre Channel and making a bloody fast, yet maybe secure, yet small cipher for an on board processor), and pointers would be useful. It isn't as hard a problem as I first thought, though. This seems like the kind of thing everyone's favorite judge-threatening tree-hugger-nose-mac-10-inserting gun-hoarding old-man-on-the-mountain would have done N years ago :) [flames, fan. gasoline. rdx...] so I'd rather not reinvent the wheel more than once or twice. Ryan (getting dangerously close to having a working Eternity DDS demo, and wondering if FC98 will be on mbone, particularly the solar eclipse, since even if he had the money to go, it's in the middle of next semester, and disappearing for a week would kind of be difficult, although not at all impossible of someone wants to pay for me to go...ahh, but there's always next year) -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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evolRe: What cypherpunks used to be
by wabe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ANONYMOUS said: > evolve or die Evolution requires death, by definition. _______________________________________ -wabe

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mini-review: The Electronic Privacy Papers
by David HM Spector 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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