December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Given Tim May's propensity to molest little children, is it any surprise that the state of California wants to have him castrated? _ o |<)_/# Tim May TT <T

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[ADMINISTRATIVIUM] e$
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. Mayonnaise is a pimply dweeb sitting at a computer chortling at his own imagined cleverness. . o c , `'#v-- --v#`' Timothy C. Mayonnaise /'> <`\

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SAVE YOUR LIFE - PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY!
by 40748258＠tarsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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SAVE YOUR LIFE - PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY!
by 40748258＠tarsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~ ~ SAVE YOUR LIFE - PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY !!! *** 15 ANTI-CRIME REPORTS - You Should Know About ! Special Offer - Order All 15 Reports and you will also receive REPRINT RIGHTS... Yes - Reprint Rights $$$ !!! Dear Friend, Crime affects you, me, everyone - Young or Old - Rich or Poor. Crime is a problem for the entire community, not problems for the police alone. The police are charged to prevent and suppress crime and to solve crime once it occurs to the utmost of their ability. However, they are realistically aware that they can neither prevent all crime from occurring nor solve every crime that does occur. To attain the greatest possible degree of safety you, me and every other law abiding citizen needs to become aware of how the criminals traditionally do their "Dastardly" deeds and how you can "Minimize The Risk" of crime affecting you. Knowledge is power and the 15 reports below will give you the POWER YOU NEED to minimize crime that could someday affect YOU or a LOVED ONE! Please seriously consider purchasing the below reports. The price is so low that you really cannot afford not to be armed with the knowledge you will receive by reading and re-reading these reports! Report #1 - How To Protect Your Home From Intruders. Report #2 - How To Protect Yourself On City Streets. Report #3 - How To Protect Your Valuables From Theft. Report #4 - How To Protect Yourself When Traveling. Report #5 - How To Guard Against Purse Snatchers. Report #6 - How To Protect Yourself From Armed Robbery. Report #7 - How To Protect Your From Pickpockets. Report #8 - How To Safeguard Against Rape. Report #9 - How Shoplifting Affects You and Your Family. Report #10 - How To Protect Your Cars, Bicycles and Motorcycles. Report #11 - How To Protect Your Home While Away. Report #12 - How To Burglar-Proof Your Doors. Report #13 - How To Burglar-Proof Your Windows. Report #14 - How To Select a Burglar Alarm. Report #15 - How To Reduce Crime In Your Neighborhood. SPECIAL OFFER - Order All 15 Reports and you will also receive Reprint Rights. Reprint Rights, gives you the right (granted by us) to reproduce any and all of these reports. With Reprint Rights, you can photo copy and distribute these reports to your family, friends, co-workers, teachers, etc. When distributing these reports you may give them away for FREE or you may charge for them. Collect any amount of money you wish. It's your money and yours to keep! We will never ask for any of it !!! Two Ways You May Order The Above Reports: 1. You may order ALL 15 REPORTS with Unlimited Reproduction Rights for a total cost of only $12.00. 2. You may purchase reports individually for $4.00 each. Now IS THE TIME for you to "Minimize The Risk" of crime affecting YOU or a LOVED ONE! Money Back Guarantee: If unsatisfied for any reason, you get your money back, period! Upon receiving your order, the Anti-Crime reports will promptly be emailed to you. TO ORDER: Follow the instructions below: You may pay by Check, Money Order, Cash, Visa or Mastercard. FAX the form below to 1-405-330-5379 or MAIL this form to: Douglas C. Parcells 3126 S. Boulevard Suite 147 Edmond, OK 73013 USA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - O R D E R F O R M -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PLEASE PRINT ALL INFORMATION LEGIBLY TO SPEED UP YOUR ORDER (1.) [ ] Visa [ ] Mastercard [ ] Check [ ] Money Order [ ] Cash (2.) Credit Card Number: (put one number on each line) CC# __ __ __ __ - __ __ __ __ - __ __ __ __ - __ __ __ __ (3.) Expiration Date: [ __ __ / __ __ ] Month/Year (anti-crime) Email Address:__________________ Name:_____________________________ Address:_____________________________ City__________ ST_____ Zip_______ Ph.# w/ areacode:__________________ Signature (Required)_____________ *** You may purchase ALL 15 REPORTS with unlimited reproduction rights for a total cost of only $12.00. *** You may purchase reports individually for $4.00 each. [ ] Check here if ordering ALL 15 reports for the $12.00 Special. [ ] Check here if ordering reports individually and list by # below. #__________ #__________ #_________ #_________ #_________ FAX the above form to 1-405-330-5379 or MAIL this form to: Douglas C. Parcells 3126 S. Boulevard Suite 147 Edmond, OK 73013 USA *** Pay all orders in U.S. FUNDS or outside the U.S. send the currency equivalent. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be sure to INCLUDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS so we may fill your order A.S.A.P. !!! Best of Luck... we'll visit again. Kindest Personal Regards, Douglas C. Parcells Report Fulfillment Coordinator P.S. Now IS THE TIME for you to "Minimize The Risk" of crime affecting YOU or a LOVED ONE! The best way to minimize the risk of crime affecting you is by taking sensible precautions c2

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Re: Access to Storage and Communication Keys
by Marc Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> writes: >> An interesting perspective, but I don't know that it works. >> For this to make sense, either the business needs to have access to >> the stored received email if the user gets run over by a police car, >> or else the business needs to know that it doesn't _need_ access - >> either because the mail isn't business related, or because the >> business-related parts have been transferred to other systems >> using a convenient user interface. It is impossible to know if a given email is business related or not automatically. Probably the best idea is to have my business email key escrowed (by my MIS department, not uncle sam!), but to have my personal email key not escrowed. Probably, I want to use two completely different email addresses. This does require that the sender use the correct address and key when sending me personal email. I do believe that there is a case for private key escrow here. Some of you will say that the sender should just encrypt the message to me and to the MIS message-escrow key. This is ok, too, but it still requires that the sender remember to do this for business email and not for personal email, so you've just changed the nature of the burden slightly, not removed it. >> >The *only* reason to escrow communications keys is to spy on people; >> >there is never an opportunity for data loss here. >> >> Yeah! (Actually, the other reason to escrow them is because >> you're using the same keys for communication and storage, This sort of thing is where we as cryptographic engineers need to keep on our toes. If we never use the same key for communications and storage encryption, this issue never comes up. >> of storage keys, but that's only the case if you're not using >> a sufficiently flexible cryptosystem and are using key backup >> instead of data backup, which is really the preferred approach anyway.) Key backup is far more practical than data backup in a large environment. ObCryptoIdea: a backup system which lets me set a public key associated with my directory/disk/whatever. The backup system will encrypt the backup in a symmetric key encrypted by this public key. If a restore is needed, the backup system and I engage in a dialog to disclose the relevant symmetric key. For mission-critical data, the public key must come with a certificate indicating that the private key has been escrowed, so that if I get hit by a truck, the data can be recovered. For personal data, I keep the private key to myself. This means that I can have the safety of knowing my data is being backed up, but I never have to worry about archives of my data coming back to haunt me (unless the company/school/ISP is malicious and keeps it's own records of the symmetric keys, but then I'm screwed in any case). Marc

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No Subject
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tzeruch(a)ceddec.com righteously writes: > Looking at synthetic child porn may be purely a thought crime, but it > involves breaking a lot of societal taboos. If someone does not have the > self-restraint to not look at mere pictures, will they have the restraint > to avoid comitting actual crimes? > Although you can argue that people may be able to look without touching, > the reason they are looking in the first place involves a release of the > beast within. How many such people are we willing to trust to keep that > beast on the chain. The law is currently structured to answer "none" to > this question, and this may be the proper answer. Hear, hear, brother! Also, all womenfolk should be required to cover up their entire bodies as well as their faces whenever they're in public or in contact with any male above the age of puberty, even unto their male relatives. If one of these men doesn't have the self-restraint to not look at the woman in the first place, will he have the restraint to keep from raping her? After all, the reason they are looking in the first place involves a release of the beast within. How many such people are we willing to trust to keep that beast on the chain? "None" is again the proper answer of course. > This does not mean that I am any less a civil-cyber-libertarian No, of course not. How could anyone have thought so? Praise God, brother. Scrupulus

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BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS, JUNE 14, AT PGP Inc. IN SAN MATEO
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Cypherpunks June 97 Physical Meeting Announcement (SF Bay Area, Northern California chapter) Date: 14 June 1997 (second Saturday as usual) Time: 12pm - 4pm Host: Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. Contact: Dave Del Torto - 415.596.1781 voice Agenda for 14 June 97 (subject to slight variations): 1.Angelos Keromytis & Hugh Daniel on their Linux IPSEC work: Hot news from the recent IPSEC interoperability bake-off in Michigan 2.PGP 5.0 Source Code Release & Public Review: The first release of *all* final PGP 5.0 source code to the People! PGP engineers will be present to discuss technical details and answer specific questions. A number of copies will be available (free) to attendees who wish to review the cryptography code (note: we recommend that you bring a box or bag, as it's 14 volumes and nearly 7,000 pages). 3.HIP97 Trip Planning Committee: A group from California is planning on attending the Hacking in Progress '97 event sponsored by XS4ALL in the Netherlands (8/9/10 Aug). This event is followed by the IETF meeting in Munich, and some will continue on. We'll discuss our cooperative travel plans. Cf. N.B.: Contact ASAP for flight info as flights are being booked up rapidly (high tourist season). [Editors Note: _High_ tourists in Amsterdam??] 4. Ian Goldberg's Cool Canadian Crypto Software for Pilot Organizers If somebody from Berkeley can give Ian a ride, he'll demo the crypto libraries and applications he wrote while out of the US. PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call me at 415.730.3583 and I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff. Directions to PGP: Pretty Good Privacy's HQ is located at: 2121 South El Camino Real 9th Floor - (the meeting is on the 2nd Floor) San Mateo CA 94403, USA Directions available here http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head or follow DDT's Directions to PGP's HQ in San Mateo (fossil fuel version): MACRO From the North Bay: Hwy 101 South (use right lanes after passing SFO) EXIT Fwy 92 West (move to center lane immediately after ramp)... or 280 South (take Hwy 92 East toward the Bay)... From the South Bay: 101 North - EXIT Fwy 92 West (toward Half Moon Bay)... 280 North - EXIT Hwy 92 East (toward the Bay)... From the East Bay: San Mateo Bridge (Hwy 92 West) GO past Hwy 101... MICRO Once you're on Hwy 92 (from either 280 or 101) EXIT at SOUTH El Camino Real (From 101 it's about a mile, and there are two El Camino exits!) (From 280 it's about 7 miles, after you've come down a steep grade, levelled out and passed under an overpass) Curve around and down under freeway: you're now travelling south on El Camino Real. Get in the LEFT lane *immediately*. (Directly in front of you, you can see the Bayview Building a couple of blocks away: it's the only highrise around.) LEFT on 20th (The very first traffic light after exit ramp. Taco Bell is on left). RIGHT turn at next stop sign (residential street: Palm). PROCEED 1.5 blocks. (Parking Garage entrance at rear of Bayview building is on your right.) PARK on the 2nd level. NANO Once you've parked your vehicle in the Garage (it's free): STAIRS (or Elevator) to the main level, step out and... WALK WEST across the courtyard to the main (tallest) building. PASS through the doorway in the stand-alone exterior "glass wall" and approach the "Information" window (also the Guard Station) on the north side of the building. GET the guard's attention (preferably *not* by waving a firearm). Use the passphrase and you'll be admitted. If the guard's on a break, call me at 415.730.3583. ELEVATOR to 2nd Floor. (The meeting room is on left side, slightly down the hall) Public Transit For CalTrain, get off at the San Mateo station near the Bay Meadows horse racing track and head for the tallest building around with the huge "Bayview" sign on top. It's a short walk or cab ride. By bus, take any line running on El Camino Real to the intersection of 20th in San Mateo and dismount. Look up: you're there. - ------------------ Announcement also available at http://www.pgp.com/newsroom/cpunk-info.cgi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM54YkvthU5e7emAFAQFF8AH+M0LItG6OfTn4h8BNF+51RLsuQHWq1TgY IN+R3j+A7AJno7lUxP612Ctm5m/3V2dAa5HrScyCfm3KUiPDxOqozQ== =gMPf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: BAD ADVICE WARNING from Kent: Access to Storage and Communication
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199706110235.VAA04670(a)manifold.algebra.com>, on 06/10/97 at 09:35 PM, ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) said: >Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >> Ray Arachelian <sunder(a)brainlink.com> writes: >> > Passphrases can be memorized. 4mm DAT tapes hold several gigs and are >> > tiny. Ever see one? Fits in your pocket. It's smaller that an audio >> > cassette. Fairly easy to guard, but, if your data is backed up in >> > encrypted form (cyphertext), and not clear text, you don't even need to >> > bother protecting the tape. (That is unless your backup software uses a >> > weak cypher as most tend to do.) [FYI: Your knowledge of tape >> > technologies is severly lacking. 4mm tapes hold 2-4Gb. Exabytes 5Gb-10Gb. >> > Mamouth Exabytes (same size as 8mm camcorder video tapes, smaller than >> > audio cassettes) hold as much as 40Gb in a very small form factor.] >> >> I'm actually thinking of getting a pair of 4mm tape drives to replace >> my existing backup system (very old drives that use DC 600As; only >> .25GB / drive, pretty slow, no NT drivers; time to upgrade) >> >> I wonder: if the data is well-encrypted, wouldn't it make the compression >> pretty ineffective? >You can compress before the encryption (if the encryption algorithm does >not do compression). >tar cvfz - /directory | Encrypt > /dev/ftape >or something like that. >Another thing to worry about is being able to at least partially restore >data if one or several blocks get corrupted. Well for backup purposes one would probably want to do their encryption on a block size < file size. As an example for a 1M file you could encrypt it as 10 seperate 100k blocks (or any suitable block size) rather than encrypting the entire file in one block. I have programs on my system that will do this for me but it would be best if all of this was built into the backup software. Myself I don't use tape. I use mirrored HD's and MO's & CD for short & long term archives. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM567949Co1n+aLhhAQGm1AQAlmPPWerzMnltKwo0wyqD2eKiABc5pr1u InvkvQoi9F3bvc8HXi/qOVZoDU49fmBWPmObz425pRNz412ilnlaUNn+nS2QhtdS o+SB/TQWaJ8afwxdQr3N+aUyTCgxFEQjzNE1rsJF68/eZK5pxii5zbn/NkG1RiYx 3B340rEWGEk= =5Dqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Personal info regulation [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > COMPANIES AGREE TO ADDRESS CYBER-PRIVACY CONCERNS > > graphic > > June 10, 1997 > Web posted at: 7:34 p.m. EDT (2334 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hoping to stave off strict government curbs, > Lexis-Nexis and seven other companies that sell detailed personal > information about Americans agreed Tuesday to voluntary limits to > minimize privacy intrusions. > > But consumer advocates at a Federal Trade Commission hearing > insisted that mandatory rules were needed to crack down on growing > abuses by electronic data companies, especially because many smaller > companies aren't part of the agreement. [remainder deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Laptop theft [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > PC, PHONE HOME > > Laptop > > Industry aims to stop theft of laptops > > June 10, 1997 > Web posted at: 11:45 p.m. EDT (0345 GMT) > > From Correspondent Greg Lefevre > > SAN FRANCISCO (CNN) -- Expensive, compact and frequently out and > about, a laptop computer makes an attractive target for thieves. > > But the computer industry has devised some ingenious ways to counter > theft, including invisible software that knows when the computer is > in trouble. [remainder deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Trolling for Children, Cypherpunks, or LEA's?
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

se7en, Grand Protector of "Us", wrote: > > When I stopped lurking on this list and became a > regular poster, one of the things I quickly became known for was my > on-line harrassment of those who hurt us as a group. Thank you for your harrassment of the victims of your harrassment on my behalf. > Many old-timers here will remember my harrassment of a > a worldwide volunteer force that searched out indecency > on the net So it is a good thing to harrass people who do this? Thanks, I'll remember that. > As many of you know, I make a living as a professional speaker, with > federal government, military and intelligence communities as my core > audience. I am certain that you tell them what the federal government and military think they need to hear an are well received. > I recently went off on a serious rant with three different audiences on a > topic I felt was seriously exaggerated/over-hyped/fearmongered/bullshit. But you would never do that again, right? > some idiot from an anonymous address > sent me a child porn .jpg file. Trust me when I say it was child porn Nope. Afraid I like to check facts for myself. > I looked around on IRC on #teensex, and found: > #preteensexpics > #littlegirlsex > #100%preteensexpics > #100%preteensexfuckpics > #!!!!!!preteensexpics I looked too, but didn't find it. > I joined several of these channels and found that > upon entering each one, I was auto messaged about special kiddie porn > servers dedicated to trading, e.g., > PreTeenSexPics - FTP at 130.67.80.230 l/p ncc/ncc [|] I couldn't confirm this myself. Looked like pretty normal files to me. > I started logging the channels. I wanted to silently gather IP addresses > and email addresses. These people needed some genuine hacker terror. And to think that a short time ago, they didn't even exist, according to your rants. > I logged out of IRC, and then went to USENET, in such rooms as: > alt.binaries.erotica.children.pre-teen I couldn't find this "room" either. Are you sure this stuff doesn't exist only on your computer? > Several messages also pointed to some WWW sites, such as: > http://www.nudebooks.com Did you check it out? I did. I saw a lot of art. I didn't see any age discrimination. Maybe they need to be harrassed. Perhaps you could start by harassing the naturalists who have pictures of their families taken in the buff because they don't seem to realize that their bodies are vile, disgusting things. Then you could harrass those who document the photography of Lewis Carroll, who took pictures that aren't acceptable to present day moralists because our children now live long enough that we can stunt their sexual growth without dire consequences for survival of the species. > Well, this whole situation is unacceptable. First, I would like to > apologize to all those who have hired me in the past, and were subject to > my emotional rants about how the whole subject was bullshit and not real. But now we should liste to your emotional rants about the whole subject demands that we harrass people over it? Right. > I know this type of activity is > not tolerated by us. Which type? The type of activity where naturalists take pictures of themselves and their families? The type of activity where those who celebrate the human physique in their art don't use an artificial cut-off date to decide when art becomes obscenity? > I have given you enough information above to start > identifying the players in this and the places they congregate. No you haven't. > Yes, I am advocating malicious, destructive hacking activity against > these people. And this time you're not *wrong* like you were before, right? > These people need to be eradicated from the Internet. I'll rent the Ryder truck, you buy the fertilizer. We'll only kill the "guilty," right? TruthMonger

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Re: [Noise, California only] Good deal on ISDN access (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > From: Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: [Noise, California only] Good deal on ISDN access > Assuming you can get 56k over your POTS line. Less than 20% of US > households can even link up at 28.8k. ISDN is a clean solution that will That is an interesting stat, I have considerably better luck than this. I would guess about 80% of my customers and people I know using them get full bandwidth most of the time. I use 33.6 on SSZ and everyone of my users with this get consistent speed. My dedicated lines seem quite stable over time as well. I prefer my ISDN over a normal modem. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Thoughtcrime (Re: My War)
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I really don't think that se7en just wants to censor the kiddie porn sites; I think he is on a personal vendetta (like McVeigh). He didn't call for anyone to support legislation and propose new, tough laws, but called for hackers to go after this particular target. On the net anyone is prey, remember; kiddie porn dealers not exempted. It's moot to discuss whether eliminating a few thousand digital images will make any difference on the availability/market desireability of these pictures (I expect these are all backed up somewhere, anyway, so destroying them probably wouldn't actually make much difference, but just anger the owners.) How many photos of real children arranged into sexual poses or imposed upon to perform sexual acts does it take to satisfy an addict? How many photos which are not duplicates do these people actually possess, and how many more do they seek to obtain? Is it the number of them, or the thrill of the "new"? That a certain number of these photos are in circulation may not be so important as the fact that they are "new" (to the person looking to get them). This means that having free circulation of large numbers of images may be beside the point (I am speculating and calculating based on almost total ignorance of the psychology of this type of individual). If these pedophiles just want to fantasize, I would offer they could get a package of Macromedia Freehand or Director and Photoshop and create their own. But that probably wouldn't be satisfactory to them. I expect there is something in the qualities and character of real children which draw them. But I digress. The subject was hacking at your own chosen target. Some people hack children's innocence; some people hack the hackers. Que sera' sera'. .. Blanc .. Blanc

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BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS, JUNE 14, AT PGP Inc. IN SAN MATEO
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Cypherpunks June 97 Physical Meeting Announcement (SF Bay Area, Northern California chapter) Date: 14 June 1997 (second Saturday as usual) Time: 12pm - 4pm Host: Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. Contact: Dave Del Torto - 415.596.1781 voice Agenda for 14 June 97 (subject to slight variations): 1.Angelos Keromytis & Hugh Daniel on their Linux IPSEC work: Hot news from the recent IPSEC interoperability bake-off in Michigan 2.PGP 5.0 Source Code Release & Public Review: The first release of *all* final PGP 5.0 source code to the People! PGP engineers will be present to discuss technical details and answer specific questions. A number of copies will be available (free) to attendees who wish to review the cryptography code (note: we recommend that you bring a box or bag, as it's 14 volumes and nearly 7,000 pages). 3.HIP97 Trip Planning Committee: A group from California is planning on attending the Hacking in Progress '97 event sponsored by XS4ALL in the Netherlands (8/9/10 Aug). This event is followed by the IETF meeting in Munich, and some will continue on. We'll discuss our cooperative travel plans. Cf. N.B.: Contact ASAP for flight info as flights are being booked up rapidly (high tourist season). [Editors Note: _High_ tourists in Amsterdam??] 4. Ian Goldberg's Cool Canadian Crypto Software for Pilot Organizers If somebody from Berkeley can give Ian a ride, he'll demo the crypto libraries and applications he wrote while out of the US. PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call me at 415.730.3583 and I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff. Directions to PGP: Pretty Good Privacy's HQ is located at: 2121 South El Camino Real 9th Floor - (the meeting is on the 2nd Floor) San Mateo CA 94403, USA Directions available here http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head or follow DDT's Directions to PGP's HQ in San Mateo (fossil fuel version): MACRO From the North Bay: Hwy 101 South (use right lanes after passing SFO) EXIT Fwy 92 West (move to center lane immediately after ramp)... or 280 South (take Hwy 92 East toward the Bay)... From the South Bay: 101 North - EXIT Fwy 92 West (toward Half Moon Bay)... 280 North - EXIT Hwy 92 East (toward the Bay)... From the East Bay: San Mateo Bridge (Hwy 92 West) GO past Hwy 101... MICRO Once you're on Hwy 92 (from either 280 or 101) EXIT at SOUTH El Camino Real (From 101 it's about a mile, and there are two El Camino exits!) (From 280 it's about 7 miles, after you've come down a steep grade, levelled out and passed under an overpass) Curve around and down under freeway: you're now travelling south on El Camino Real. Get in the LEFT lane *immediately*. (Directly in front of you, you can see the Bayview Building a couple of blocks away: it's the only highrise around.) LEFT on 20th (The very first traffic light after exit ramp. Taco Bell is on left). RIGHT turn at next stop sign (residential street: Palm). PROCEED 1.5 blocks. (Parking Garage entrance at rear of Bayview building is on your right.) PARK on the 2nd level. NANO Once you've parked your vehicle in the Garage (it's free): STAIRS (or Elevator) to the main level, step out and... WALK WEST across the courtyard to the main (tallest) building. PASS through the doorway in the stand-alone exterior "glass wall" and approach the "Information" window (also the Guard Station) on the north side of the building. GET the guard's attention (preferably *not* by waving a firearm). Use the passphrase and you'll be admitted. If the guard's on a break, call me at 415.730.3583. ELEVATOR to 2nd Floor. (The meeting room is on left side, slightly down the hall) Public Transit For CalTrain, get off at the San Mateo station near the Bay Meadows horse racing track and head for the tallest building around with the huge "Bayview" sign on top. It's a short walk or cab ride. By bus, take any line running on El Camino Real to the intersection of 20th in San Mateo and dismount. Look up: you're there. - ------------------ Announcement also available at http://www.pgp.com/newsroom/cpunk-info.cgi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM54YkvthU5e7emAFAQFF8AH+M0LItG6OfTn4h8BNF+51RLsuQHWq1TgY IN+R3j+A7AJno7lUxP612Ctm5m/3V2dAa5HrScyCfm3KUiPDxOqozQ== =gMPf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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unsubscribe tmoore48@ix.netcom.com
by Giggles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsubscribe tmoore48(a)ix.netcom.com

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ADDENDUM: BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS, JUNE 14, AT PGP Inc. IN SAN MATEO
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please refer to the official announcement at http://www.pgp.com/newsroom/cpunk-info.cgi in case any of the PGP-related details change....

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Re: FCPUNX:Response to 'My War'
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

fAt 10:07 PM 6/9/97 -0700, se7en wrote: > Anyone who thinks this doesn't affect the young children, you are wrong. > I doubt these children consented to the sexual activity. I doubt they > consented to being photographed. I doubt they consented to the pictures > being distributed to others. Most of these children are adults now. A great many of them are grandmothers. Yet I see no prosecutions for the distribution of images by the supposed victims. > I am sure this affects the > emotional/psychological state of the child victim in many ways beyond > what most of us can understand. I think we can all agree that is creates > a less-than-optimal psychological state in the children. Produce a victim and you will find it a lot easier to prosecute. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Feds have lost battle against encryption
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is an editorial in the June 11 San Jose Mercury News titled, "Feds have lost battle against encryption". It mentions the Sun/Elvis+ deal, and representative Goodlatte's bill. It says, "Government warriors should pack up their rusty cannons, admit that they've lost this battle, and learn to live in the 1990s." It speaks favorably of increased sentencing for criminal use of encryption. It says the bill does not go far enough in removing export controls. Try http://www.sjmercury.com for a copy. (I haven't looked, so no guarantees.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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[off-topic] LEA announcement about children & computers (long)
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunx: For your amusment - nicked from the local Telco web site. I especially enjoy the link between role playing games, satanism and computing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CHILDREN AND COMPUTERS: THE HIDDEN DANGER Dear Parent: With the never ending development of computer technology and as an increasing number of people become computer literate, it is much more likely that our children may be victimized or exploited in a computer environment. If your child has a home computer (or access to someone elseÆs computer), especially those equipped with a modem, then please take the time to review this guide and become familiar with the behavioural warning signs. It will only take a few minutes and may prevent devastating problems in the future. Keep in mind, however, that no matter how ôawareö you are of these warning signs, the most important safeguard is to monitor the contacts that your children are making in this unrestricted environment and regulate their computer related activities. In addition, do not allow your children to isolate themselves from family or friends by engaging in solitary computer activities for hours on end. A computer should never become a substitute for social interaction. 1984 Government Study TodayÆs children are being weaned on video games and quickly move to computers. Society has high hopes for this technically literate generation, but the proliferation of microcomputers and computer literacy also means that more and more assets will be stored on computer systems and the community of potential computer criminals will increase astronomically. Tips for Safe Computing PARENTS Please advise your children to observe the following safety rules whenever they are ôon-lineö. Remind them that no matter how safe and/or friendly the BBS seems (and this includes the major services as well as the Internet), there is always a potential for danger. They Should: òNever give out any personal information about themselves - particularly full names, addresses, phone numbers, financial information, etc. to anyone they meet on line. òAvoid responding to anyone who leaves them obnoxious, sexual or menacing E-mail. They should not become involved in public ôFlameö sessions as they have no idea who they are dealing with and what access an individual may have to their account information. òReport all electronic harassment and/or abuse to their parents. As parents, you should notify the SYSTEM OPERATOR (SYSOP) of the problem. If the SYSTEM OPERATOR does not give you satisfaction in stopping this abuse, the police should be notified. òNever set up face to face meetings alone with anyone they have met on the BBS. They should always take someone with them and always meet in a public place. òNever have someone come to their house until they get to know them and until they are satisfied that they have given accurate personal information about the individual. òSafeguard all credit card and telephone card numbers. They should pay for BBS services by money order whenever practical. PARENTS: Notify the police of all attempts by adults to set up meetings with your children. This is by far the most dangerous situation for children and should be prosecuted when appropriate. ôThe modern thief can steal more with a computer than with a gun, and tomorrowÆs terrorist may be able to do more damage with a keyboard than with a bombö. National Research Council Washington, D.C. Some Child Behavioural Warning Signs: Computer Addiction òWithdraws from friends, family etc. May lose interest in social activities. òUse of new (unusual) vocabulary, heavy with computer terms, satanic phrase or sexual reference (or sudden interest in related posters, music, etc.) Look for related doodling or writing. òUse of words such as: hacking, phreaking or any words with ôphö replacing ôfö. òLack of interest in self and appearance or indications of lack of sleep, (which might indicate late night modem-play). Other Potential Danger Signs òComputer and modem running late at night (even when unattended). òStoring of computer files ending in: GIF, JPG, MPG, AVI, MOV, BMP, TIF, PCX, DL, GL or unusual CDÆs; these are video or graphic image files and parents should know what they illustrate. òNames on communications programs which seem satanic or pornographic. òObsession with fantasy adventure games, (Dungeons and Dragons, Trade Wars, Sexcapade, etc). òUse of computer to scan or run telephone numbers or credit card numbers, (look for ôsequential diallingö programs). What you can do to Protect your Children Talk to your children about their use of the computer Know What They are Doing òIf possible, keep the computer in a ôcommonö area of your home, such as a family room or den. òYou decide if your child has a legitimate need for a modem. òIf a modem is being used, control the activity by monitoring times used and numbers dialled. Closely Monitor your Long Distance Bill òIf the computer is left running unattended, check the screen. òIf it is showing a series of four digit numbers, the computer is trying to identify calling card ôPINö numbers. òIf it is showing a series of sixteen digit numbers, the computer is trying to validate credit card numbers. òIf you are not computer literate, make sure you at least learn the basics about computers, take a course or have your child teach you. Courtesy of: Chief Alfred O. Olsen Warwick Township Police Department Lititz, Pennsylvania, USA

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[CNN] Stolen Laptops and lame 'solution'
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

reproduced under fair-use: > PC, phone home > > Industry aims to stop > theft of laptops > > June 10, 1997 > Web posted at: 11:45 p.m. EDT (0345 GMT) > > From Correspondent Greg > Lefevre > > SAN FRANCISCO (CNN) -- Expensive, compact and > frequently out and about, a laptop computer makes an attractive > target for thieves. > > But the computer industry has devised some ingenious ways to > counter theft, including invisible software that knows when the > computer is in trouble. > > "As soon as the thief plugs that machine into a phone network, it > will phone home," said John Livingston, chief executive of > CompuTrace Service. > > The call goes to a Canadian office > that in turn phones the cops. So far, > it has a 100 percent recovery rate. > ====== 100% of WHAT? Systems with it installed which are stolen? How would you know what systems do NOT call in? It's like the question the clerk asks at the airport: "Did anyone put anything in your luggage you don't know anything about?" Now that the word is out, of course, the wily thief will eschew pluggin in until the hard drive is reformatted and installed with a clean OS. As usual: the stupid will be caught.

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Unleashing Micro Viruses on Networks
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

6-11-97, Janes' Defence Weekly: Unleashing Microbots on Iran's IT Networks Unlike the 1990-1991 Gulf War, when the USA inserted a National Security Agency-developed, virus-laden microchip into a French computer printer headed for Baghdad, in 2015 the USA relies on several methods for infecting Iranian computers. These efforts hope to get around problems created by the proliferation of encryption technology. While some peripheral equipment, like printers, will be intercepted and bugged in order to disable mainframe computers, intelligence technicians will also use the internet to send guided viruses into Iran's national information infrastructure. Thumbnail-sized micro-robots, known as `microbots', will also be unleashed by micro-air vehicles and naval guns. These parasites will creep into electronic equipment, attach themselves, and keep themselves alive by draining generator power. Once the electronics system's energy is depleted, the fully charged microscopic vermin will search for a new victim. The main problem will be that they are too small to carry identification equipment and so they infect indiscriminately. As such, they must be deployed far away from allied equipment. However, packages of microbots can be destroyed remotely as allies prepare to invade enemy territory. <> [Copyright 1997, Jane's Information Group]

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CORBA Security beta from IONA
by Martin Janzen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just received the latest "IonaSphere" newsletter from IONA, makers of the Orbix Object Request Broker (ORB), and noticed this item which may be of interest to some of the people on this list: I28-B> IONA announces beta of CORBA Security Implementation =========================================================== OrbixSecurity enables organizations to deploy their mission-critical distributed systems on multiple platforms securely. It is tightly integrated with IONA's leading object request broker Orbix and facilitates the creation of CORBA level 1 secure distributed component-based applications. In parallel with the development of OrbixSecurity, IONA is also working on a secure socket layer (SSL v3.0) solution. SSL will be bundled in the company's Orbix/OTM enterprise suite of object development and management tools, also scheduled for the third quarter. SSL security offers authentication (based on X.509 certificates) and encryption (based on public and session key technologies). Subsequent to the initial general availability of OrbixSecurity in the third quarter of 1997, IONA will be working towards level 2 security support (which deals mostly with the definition and administration of security policies and domains) via product extensions and third party integrations. Availability The OrbixSecurity beta is available immediately on the Sun Solaris and Windows NT platforms. To participate in the beta program send an e-mail to beta(a)iona.com For more information see http://www.iona.com/Press/PR/security.html (Standard disclaimers: I don't work for these guys, get paid by them, etc...) -- Martin Janzen janzen(a)idacom.hp.com

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Re: [Noise, California only] Good deal on ISDN access
by Derek Atkins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> When for $150 you can get a brand spanking new 56K modem, and pay $20-30 a > month. Not as fast, but a much better price/performance ratio. Granted, ISDN gives you only twice that of a 56k modem (ISDN gives you 128k), the major benefit of using ISDN over analog is latency. The latency of analog modems is as high as 300ms, whereas the latency of an ISDN link is about 10% of that. MUCH better for real-time interactive connections. It all depends on how you define "performance". If you really want good performance, get MediaOne, RoadRunner, of @Home service. -derek Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL N1NWH warlord(a)MIT.EDU PGP key available

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IRS T-Pole Surveillance
by Michael F. Reusch 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Commerce Business Daily, June 11, 1997 >Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, >6009 Oxon Hill Road, Suite 700, Oxon Hill, MD 20745 >Surveillance Systems SOL TIRNO97R00049 DUE 073097 >POC Contract Specialist, Steve VanderLinden, FAX (202) 283-1514 >The Internal Revenue Service requires enclosed surveillance systems >configured as transformers for mounting on telephone poles.... http://www.ld.com/cbd/archive/1997/06(June)/11-Jun-1997/58sol002.htm Still laughing. Made my day!

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(Fwd) Re: FCPUNX:Response to 'My War'
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

William H. Geiger III wrote: > >James A Donald writes: > > >> fAt 10:07 PM 6/9/97 -0700, se7en wrote: > >> > Anyone who thinks this doesn't affect the young children, you are wrong. > >> > I doubt these children consented to the sexual activity. I doubt they > >> > consented to being photographed. I doubt they consented to the pictures > >> > being distributed to others. > >> > >> Most of these children are adults now. A great many of them are > >> grandmothers. Yet I see no prosecutions for the distribution of > >> images by the supposed victims. > >[...] > >> Produce a victim and you will find it a lot easier to prosecute. > > >See http://www.net.be/connerotte/english-text.html for the timeline of > >last year's child sex & porn scandal in Belgium. Some of the victims > >there will never bring suit: they are dead. > > I think that you are missing the most important part of those articles: > > The so-called "protectors of childered" ie government officials were > involved in the kidnaping, rape, and pornography of children and the > subsequent cover-up after the fact. > > If there was ever a need for AP this is it. Mr Donald asked people to produce victims of child porn production, and implied that unless such victims could be found, we should assume that the whole business was consensual fun. I have provided him with proof of such victims. (I'm curious to see how he'll respond). That there was (and for all I know, continues to be) high level collusion within the Belgium government to hush this up is a side issue. While the perpetrators of these atrocities should be given life without parole, I say that AP is not the answer. I object to the death penalty in all circumstances. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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(Fwd) FWD: Texas Driver's License database on the web
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just in case it's not clear from the headers, this is being posted by Peter Trei. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Some forwards removed. From: Jim Thompson <jim(a)hosaka.SmallWorks.COM> I got a '503 Service Unavailable this server has been placed offline by the operator. Please try again later.' response the first two times I tried. But then... Oh look. A record of which elections in which you've voted. If you don't think this is the likely future, you're dead wrong. Jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: Brent Heustess <heustess(a)mail.utexas.edu> This is a really spooky web site <http://www.publiclink.com>. You can search 17 million Texas drivers by name, driver's license number or license plate number. When you find a person, you can then find everyone at that address with a license. You can even find everyone with the same 9-digit zip code. The record does not have a GIF of the photo, but it has everything else on the license. Did Psychos-R-Us request this site? "Could you create a database so I don't miss anyone when I go on a killing spree on the 900 block of Rosewood?" "28 my ass. I just checked the web and it says you were born 1965. Not ready to admit to be post-30? I'm not buying the 'I weigh 110' either. I read 118 plain as day." "I can't believe it. That asshole just cut me off. Well, Mr. ZBW-446, I guess a little midnight visit is in order to 1918 Grover St. Prepare to be stalked." "Johnny, I looked up your record last night and I couldn't believe my eyes. You're livin' in sin with that Sally Jenkins slut. How could you do this to your Dad & me? You move out now or we're gonna cut off your college money!" Public Link says this is public information, but where are the good old days when you had to have a friend down at the Dept of Public Safety who would look plate numbers up for you? If it was good enough for Rockford, it's good enough for me. Suprress your phone number & address from the phone book, but then it shows up in a searchable database on the web. Lot of good that did you. Now all those 7th Day Adventists know excatly where you live. Privacy, schmivacy. Ta, Brent =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Public Link Corporation Public Databases on the Internet 5930-E Royal Lane Ste 173, Dallas, TX 75230 (214) 890-6817 Welcome to Public Link Corp., the Information Source of the Internet. We are here to provide public access to public information and public databases. The company uses data obtained from public sources currently available through the Freedom of Information Act and Open Records Laws. We believe it is the citizen's right to have this information available for their use. We expect to grow our database offerings to you over the next several months. Many times you have needed the type of information we provide and have had to use varous methods to obtain the information. Some of these methods you would prefer not to have to use again. Not any more! Just sit back and let us do the work for you. If you have a special suggestions or request, please let us know. Come and join us as we enter the information age! - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TexasDriverLink State of Texas Licensed Drivers. Over 17,000,000 Texas Drivers License Information. Updated weekly. This database contains the information contained on a person's drivers license. Data included are Name, Address, Weight, Birth Date, Sex, Expiration Date, Status (Active or Suspended), Class of License, and Restrictions. This database does not contain information on a person's traffic tickets, DWIs, or Insurance information. Search either by name or if you know the drivers license number, search by number. TexasTagLink State of Texas License Plates. Over 16,000,000 license plates with accompaning information. Updated weekly. This database contains the information about the owner of a vehicle. This database does not contain insurance information. Search currently only available by plate number. TexasDallasVoterLink Registered voter role for Dallas County Texas. This database also contains voting history for each of the one million registered voters. This database is updated quarterly. TexasArrestLink EvictionLink CivilCourtLink PropertyOwnerLink MarriageRecordLink - -- Jim Thompson / Smallworks, Inc. / jim(a)smallworks.com 512 338 0619 phone / 512 338 0625 fax HTML: The 3270 of the 90s

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toner
by 53365743＠prodigy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Money magazine on digital cash
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As some of you know, I work in the Washington bureau of Time Inc., which is home not just to Time Magazine and AllPolitics but also People and Money. Some folks down the hall at Money are working on an article about digital cash and the Net and would like to interview some folks who might have something interesting to say. Keep in mind the magazine's focus is on personal finance. If you're interested let me know and I'll forward your names and contact info. -Declan ------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/

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Flag burning vote TOMORROW and government-imposed ratings
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:32:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship-announce(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Flag burning vote TOMORROW and government-imposed ratings I don't often forward along non-Net issues, but these are too important to ignore. First, from my colleagues at AllPolitics: http://www.allpolitics.com/1997/gen/analysis/counterpoint/ Counterpoint: Ban Flag Burning? It's baaaack.....! The House is set to vote June 12 on a proposed amendment to the Constitution that would ban flag desecration. Democratic Rep. William Lipinksi, a lead sponsor, says the flag is too important a symbol not to be protected, while ACLU executive director Ira Glasser warns against weakening the First Amendment. Read on for a note from Chris Finan. Also check out Cato's web site for a related paper on mandatory "voluntary" ratings by f-c subscriber Bob Corn-Revere: http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/v_chipes.html -Declan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:43:54 -0400 From: Chris Finan <mediacoalition(a)sprintmail.com> To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Subject: Government ratings of TV Declan, The opponents of government-mandated TV ratings need help. The FCC is under heavy pressure to appoint a panel to devise a system of ratings to replace the ratings that the networks have voluntarily adopted. More than 300 of the 355 e-mail comments received by the FCC have been from individuals and groups urging greater censorship of TV. Would you post this message on the Fight Censorship list to let people know that they can e-mail their views to the FCC? Their messages, which needn't be long or formal, should be sent to vchip(a)fcc.gov as soon as possible. The Free Expression Network has jumped in with both feet to the fight against a government-mandated TV rating system. Its website, the Free Expression Clearing House, www.freeexpression.org, has a lot of current information on the TV ratings fight. Thanks.

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mailing list
by Tom McClanahan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would like to be on your mailing list. minuteman(a)fuse.net Thank you.

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Re: June 18th SF C'punks meeting: export controls on trial
by Ed.Falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ... There will also > be a regular 2nd-Saturday c'punks meeting this month (I think it's at > PGP, Inc.) Hi all; I haven't seen the agenda yet, but if there is time & interest, I would be willing to organize a PGP key-signing party. Signify interest by mailing your key -- or a pointer to it -- to me by Friday. Come to the c'punks meeting with photo ID and your PGP fingerprint. It would also be way cool if we could get some of the folks at PGP Inc. to join in. More info on key-signing parties will be at www.best.com/~falconer/keyparty.html by tommorrow. -ed falk

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export rules obsolete, says U.S. official
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/061197/info12_13274.html ______________________________________________________________________ Supercomputer export rules obsolete, says U.S. official __________________________________________________________________________ Copyright ) 1997 Nando.net Copyright ) 1997 The Associated Press WASHINGTON (June 11, 1997 5:56 p.m. EDT) -- A Commerce Department official denied that Clinton administration export policies let U.S. supercomputers be used by hostile nations for weapons and said old controls are now unworkable. The president's 1995 decision to loosen export controls on supercomputers and other high-tech products recognized that technology is advancing at lightning speed and already is available throughout the world, William A. Reinsch, Commerce's undersecretary for export administration, said Wednesday. Harsher restrictions on the export of the most powerful computers would be of limited benefit, he said. "Efforts to control at lower levels will not only be unsuccessful, they will limit our ability to widely disseminate American standards and software and damage our companies economically," Reinsch told the Senate Governmental Affairs subcommittee on international security, proliferation and federal services. "When President Clinton took office he was urged by congressional leaders of both parties to make long-overdue reforms in this area," Reinsch said. "I believe our efforts to do that have been a model of good government decision making." Sen. Thad Cochran, subcommittee chairman, retorted that Russia's premier nuclear weapons labs have five American supercomputers, and at least 46 are used in China. "The good news is that some of these major scientific technological institutes across China may not be involved in developing weapons of mass destruction and missile delivery systems for China and its clients. But some surely are," Cochran, R-Miss., said. "And they're doing this work courtesy of what appears to be, at best, a deeply flawed U.S. export-control policy." The United States restricts export of fast-calculating supercomputers to nonallies. Military uses to which supercomputers can be put are testing nuclear weapons, building accurate missiles and developing code-breaking technology. Reinsch said the Justice Department is investigating three sales of supercomputers overseas, two in Russia and one to the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The sales are suspected of violating U.S. regulations designed to keep U.S. technology from falling into the wrong hands. Commerce officials also are checking into whether U.S. supercomputers sold to customers in Dubai have been resold to Iran, he said. Two Republican House members, Rep. Henry Hyde of Illinois and Rep. Tillie K. Fowler of Florida, have demanded a Justice Department investigation into sales of sensitive equipment to China as part of its inquiry into foreign campaign contributions to Democrats. In a May 22 letter to Attorney General Janet Reno, the lawmakers said the situation raises questions about whether campaign contributions from Asian donors led to the sales. In response to a question from Cochran, Reinsch said he didn't think the Commerce Department had been asked to turn over information as part of such an investigation, "but we will certainly turn over to them whatever they ask for." By CASSANDRA BURRELL, Associated Press Writer _________________________________________________________________ [ Global | Stateside | Sports | Politics | Opinions | Business | Techserver | Health & Science | Entertainment | Weather | Baseball | Basketball | Football | Hockey | Sport Server | MAIN ] _________________________________________________________________ Copyright ) 1997 Nando.net Do you have some feedback for the Nando Times staff?

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Re: Thoughtcrime (Re: My War)
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tzeruch(a)ceddec.com wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Steve Schear wrote: > > I find lust to be a noble urge. > > Then you probably find rape a noble deed. I do not. If you are referring > to the acts our net.loon often posts to this list, I hope you enjoy > placing yourself at his level. My ideas originate above my limbic system. You forgot to add, "...and your mother wears army boots!" before your attempted "guilt by association" slur and the placing of your esteemed self on an intellectual pedestal. I have noticed in the list's dick wars and pissing contests that those with the shortest dicks put themselves on pedestals in order to compensate for their physical shortcomings and those with the smallest bladders use the largest dictionary in hopes that extra acidity will compensate for lack of volume. It is my contention that those who enjoy "mental masturbation" also "find lust to be a noble urge." Of course, I'm Chinese...I could be Wong. A thousand monkeys spanking typewriters and purporting to be: TruthMonger

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Re: [CNN] Stolen Laptops and lame 'solution' (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > From: "Raymond Mereniuk" <raymond(a)wcs.net> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:22:48 +0000 > Subject: Re: [CNN] Stolen Laptops and lame 'solution' > theft. But, the eventual buyer is indirectly responsible for the > initial theft of the notebook. Bullshit. That is like saying the person being raped is responsible for the rape. This is plain and simple victim-speak. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: [CNN] Stolen Laptops and lame 'solution'
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199706112341.QAA05443(a)mat.wcs.net>, on 06/11/97 at 05:22 PM, "Raymond Mereniuk" <raymond(a)wcs.net> said: >I assume most notebooks which are recovered are found to be in the hands >of a buyer rather than the person responsible for the actual theft. >But, the eventual buyer is indirectly responsible for the initial theft >of the notebook. How is the buyer responsible even indirectly? Someone puts an add in the paper NEC Laptop $1,500. I go and check it out and buy it. Should it be my respocibility to call NEC over in Japan and find out if it was reported stolen (if they even keep such records). Should I have to call the manufacture every time I buy a some used equipment? Perhaps I should have a background check done before I buy anything. If anyone is responcible for the theft other than the theif is the person who was so carless with their equipment. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM59KoY9Co1n+aLhhAQEbLgP/f4DJARITmE0TH2A+unxHpXxLCOllQqCC rUOATCG215sy6hK4Wy9a3k9AP3T4nAG/JpzAjK0n6Dw4poJLpZXE2PvjU3JGA2bH vIXSjsBdecksFVFHwJyCKJTbds+TuUKwfRepyMRlhmg8cuJqh34XC037WRxPeE7s dk9fdmyr1wA= =XwvD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Can you say anti-trust? [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > CNN logo > > MICROSOFT, NETSCAPE JOIN FORCES IN WEB PRIVACY BATTLE > > June 11, 1997 > Web posted at: 1:56 p.m. EDT (1756 GMT) web graphic > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Microsoft Corp. and Netscape Communications > Corp., two of the Internet's biggest rivals, Wednesday announced a > stunning alliance aimed at more tightly controlling the personal > information that businesses collect about World Wide Web users. > > The teaming of the two software competitors reflected the heightened > concern in the business community that government regulators may > impose rules to crack down on privacy intrusions by Internet > companies. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Mapquest From The Road
by fromtheroad＠mapquest.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MapQuest is pleased to present: ========================================================== From The Road http://www.mapquest.com/fromtheroad June 9, 1997 ========================================================== >From The Road is a members only newsletter published by MapQuest. Issues will consist of a brief email like this, linked to a Web version of FTR. Check out FTR on the Web at: http://www.mapquest.com/fromtheroad or read on. At MapQuest, we are strong believers in online communities, and have long hoped for a way to introduce our members to each other. We hope to accomplish that by sharing the best MapQuest stories with all of our 1,000,000+ members. Each issue will contain the following regular features: ============================== *NEW FEATURES DETOUR* There's more to MapQuest than meets the eye. Do you love Paris in the spring? Let us help you find your way around the highlights of Europe. ============================== *FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT* MapQuest member stories from TRW (the real world). This issue's story From The Driver's Seat story takes us to the freeways of Southern California. Read how one member uses MapQuest on the job. You don't want to be late for this meeting! ============================== *MAP SIDE STORY* Personal maps and the stories behind 'em. Here's a unique CONTEST for all the avid mapmakers out there who have created personal maps. We want to show off the best personalized maps and the stories behind them. If your map really has personality, let us know. All of our winners will receive a prize from MapQuest. ============================== *NEWS AND VIEWS* A friendly fireside chat, only without the fireplace. Join us for a moment of commentary as we discuss the growth of online travel services and the benefits to you, the consumer. ============================== *THE WINNER'S CIRCLE* Enter our Road Trip From Hell contest! Tell us about your worst driving trip ever and you could WIN great prizes such as a weekend in San Francisco! Just click and enter at http://www.mapquest.com. We hope you enjoy From The Road and decide to share your stories with us. Bon Voyage! ========================================================== If this newsletter was passed on to you and you wish to subscribe, simply become a MapQuest member by visiting http://www.mapquest.com. A click on "Personalized Maps" will take you to our free member registration page. Each MapQuest member automatically receives >From The Road. If you do not wish to receive From The Road email announcements you may unsubscribe by sending us an email at fromtheroad(a)mapquest.com, with the subject line of the email reading: UNSUBSCRIBE. Even if you unsubscribe, you will remain a MapQuest member. No hard feelings. ;-) ==========================================================

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Unleashing Micro Viruses on Networks (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:57:00 -0400 > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > Subject: Unleashing Micro Viruses on Networks > 6-11-97, Janes' Defence Weekly: > Thumbnail-sized micro-robots, known as `microbots', will > also be unleashed by micro-air vehicles and naval guns. These > parasites will creep into electronic equipment, attach > themselves, and keep themselves alive by draining generator > power. > > Once the electronics system's energy is depleted, the fully > charged microscopic vermin will search for a new victim. > > The main problem will be that they are too small to carry > identification equipment and so they infect indiscriminately. > As such, they must be deployed far away from allied > equipment. > > However, packages of microbots can be destroyed remotely > as allies prepare to invade enemy territory. Check out: Bug Park James P. Hogan ISBN 0-671-87773-9 $22.00 hardbound ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re:Texas Driver's License database on the web
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Marshall Clow wrote: > >On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Peter Trei wrote: > > > >> Did Psychos-R-Us request this site? "Could you create a database so I > >> don't miss anyone when I go on a killing spree on the 900 block of > >> Rosewood?" > When my libertairan streak is in full flood, I think that since > this information was collected by government employees and > paid for by tax dollars, that it should be availiable to anyone > who wants it, for (minimal or) no cost. > > Of course, the better solution is to not collect the information > at all. (Not selling it just means that people can buy it on the > black market, or in the case of TRW, etc; buy legislatures) It amazes me that in an age when government and corporations have access to untold mountains of information about all of us, that we seem to get upset when Joe Average is given access to that same information. The end result of this is that those with the most authority (access to information) are able to exert power and control over those with less access to the same information. Dateline NBC just did a show about a Health Insurance company whose refused to tell a potential client that the blood test they did on him was positive for HIV (even though they shared this information with other insurance companies). I will wager that if a few dozen Joe and Jane Average citizens knew of this and knew they could contact the man through the Texas DPS database that one of them would have had the decency to call the man and inform him of the life-threatening disease. The Machine feeds off of us by taking away our rights of self expression and self defence and then convincing us that the Machine is our benefactor and protector while our fellow humans are a threat to us and should be feared. Thus we end up fearing people with different religious views instead of the Machine that launches a murderous assault on the men, women and children who are a threat to our mainstream views. We end up fearing the janitor at the insurance company who may well do volunteer work for good causes instead of fearing the Machine that lets us die and infect our family members while sharing our private information with other parts of the Machine. Yes, you may get attacked by some wacko who targets you and finds your address from a database. Or, you may get attacked by some wacko who targets someone else but can't find their address from a database so they pick you as a random target. The Information Age is upon us, for better or worse. If all parts of the Machine are going to know all my personal data, then I also want for myself and Joe and Jane Average to have access to the same data. If the BATF wants to look me up at home through use of a database, then I want Timothy McAverage to be able to look all of them up through the same database. The Machine will make certain that every instance of some wacko using accessed information to abuse someone gets front-page press. No doubt the weak of wit will cry out for the Machine to protect us from abuse of access to information. This makes as much sense as asking to be protected from education and knowledge because of the potential for abuse. We have citizens who decry the fact that information on explosives should be freely available so they demand that the Machine which produces nuclear weapons censor that information. God forbid that someone would make a pipe bomb that wipes out a nuclear weapons factory. Instead of "Give me freedom or give me death." we now have a nation which cries out for security even if it means imprisonment. In our desire for ultimately unattainable levels of safety and security we allow (and even beg for) the Machine to imprison our bodies, our minds and our spirit. Instead of putting child pornographers in prison we will put cryptographers and remailer operators in prison. Instead of confiscating the assets of drug czars will confiscate the assets of people who have a kid who smokes a joint once a week. Instead of censoring legislation which limits our freedom and privacy we will censor literature which proposes democratic assassination of those who oppress us. Personal data privacy is history, for the most part. The focus of those who wish to retain privacy in certain areas of their life and their communication should be on technologies which will allow them to *personally* keep those things private. To continue to leave public information only in the hands of the corporate and government Machine is to continue to empower the Machine and weaken the power of the citizen. TruthMonger

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[IMPORTANT] e$
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

May Tim C[ocksucker] May's forgeries get stuck up his ass so he'll have to shit through his filthy mouth for the rest of its miserable life. \\\ {OQ} Tim C[ocksucker] May (_)

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Re:Texas Driver's License database on the web (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:17:24 -0400 > Subject: Re:Texas Driver's License database on the web > From: lucifer(a)dhp.com (lucifer Anonymous Remailer) > It amazes me that in an age when government and corporations have > access to untold mountains of information about all of us, that we > seem to get upset when Joe Average is given access to that same > information. I at least have a contractual relationship with both of them that provides me at least some promise of fair arbitration. Something I don't have with Joe Average implicitly. > The Machine feeds off of us by taking away our rights of self > expression and self defence and then convincing us that the > Machine is our benefactor and protector while our fellow humans > are a threat to us and should be feared. The Machine takes the rights we give up willingly for a long-term loan on a 40" television and another $10k a year. > Thus we end up fearing people with different religious views > instead of the Machine that launches a murderous assault on the > men, women and children who are a threat to our mainstream views. Not just religious views, but skin color, sex, etc. This is a function of all social animals (in fact the society wouldn't work if it wasn't) and in particular primates. To draw the conclusion that this somehow flows from our contractual agreements based on impatience and greed is illogical. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: [CNN] Stolen Laptops and lame 'solution'
by Raymond Mereniuk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> How is the buyer responsible even indirectly? > > Someone puts an add in the paper NEC Laptop $1,500. I go and check it out > and buy it. Should it be my respocibility to call NEC over in Japan and > > If anyone is responcible for the theft other than the theif is the person > who was so carless with their equipment. > Legally Law Enforcement Agencies (LEA) and the courts willl find you responsible for being in possession of stolen property. If you purchased the unit from a storefront or a person selling the unit from their home you could deflect responsibility to those parties. I would suspect most stolen units are fdisk-ed, re-formatted, and moved a minimum of a state or province and then sold through brokers who operate through a pager or cell phone. The units are sold probably more in the range of $600 to $700 CAN Dollars for 486 color units and abit more for Pentium units. The brokers may offer the unit through an auction. At this point the buyer should start to suspect something is not right, the units are too cheap and all the proprietary drivers have been removed. The reason given is that they are being disposed of by a large corporation and it is policy to erase all data. No manuals or documentation are offered with the unit. Normally when you purchase an unit from the original retail buyer manuals and documentation and extras would be included with the unit and the seller would probably be willing to show you the bill of sale. Would you buy a car from a seller offering no documentation or proof of ownership. It is tough to take the argument that stolen notebooks are the fault of the victim seriously. Notebook thieves can be pretty enterprising. They walk into offices dressed as maintainance people, buy pass keys from the real maintainance people and go through every office. A friend had a notebook taken from a locked office in a supposedly secure area, no signs of break and entry so no insurance coverage and there were notebooks and computers taken from three locked offices in the middle of the day. So in this case it was my friend's fault for doing business in a shared office environment where someone had sold a pass key to the thief?? If there was no market for stolen notebooks thieves would not steal them as there would be no gain. In my experience most people selling merchanise of doubtful origins are not sophisticated, ask lots of questions and their stories quickly fall apart. I have walked away from many deals when the origin of the goods were not clearly explained and I would suggest you do the same. Virtually Raymond Mereniuk Raymond(a)wcs.net

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Um, I'm probably already in trouble for the last one.
by Rick Osborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from 0xdeadbeef (inline tabs converted): ----- Michael Strelitz <mstrelitz(a)cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: > >> But not every bra has a cryptographic function. Most are used for ASCII >> armor or for compression. Some are even designed to make the plaintext >> stand out and more enjoyable to read. > > Touche, but I believe what we have here is a clear case of steganography. Yikes. I think that we should hammer down some definitions before this whole thing gets out of hand. Cryptography: Building an difficult-to-unhook bra. Steganography: Building a flesh-colored bra, or one whose unhook mechanism is hidden somewhere unexpected (Man: "How the Hell...?" Woman: "It unhooks in front." Man: "Damn those steganographers.") Public-Key Cryptography: Building a bra that anyone can put on, but that only Alice can remove. Watermarking: Building a bra that stays on even after smoothing, compression, and rotation. Also, Bob should not be able to put his own bra on over Alice's and claim ownership of her body. Fingerprinting: Um, I'm probably already in trouble for the last one, so I'll just skip this. Signatures: Building a bra with a nametag ("Property of Alice, machine wash warm...") such that bras with Alice's name only fit Alice's body. Bob could in theory remove Alice's bra and replace it with his own, but there's no real reason for him to do so. All-or-Nothing Disclosure Of Secrets: Alice transforms her bra into a duffle bag, and either (a) shows Bob how to open it, or (b) shows Bob how she made it into a duffle bag. Alice repeats the procedure until Bob is satisfied (perverted freak). One-time Pad: Kleenex. NSA: An organization that wants women to go back to wearing corsets and chastity belts. Oh, and Bill Clinton gets to keep all the keys. [looks up at what's written so far and sighs] I'm so damned juvenile. I'm going to go do something more constructive and serious. Well, happy Monday. -Caj [**!!Oh, and these are not the views of my employer!!**] _________ o s b o r n e @ g a t e w a y . g r u m m a n . c o m _________ Haha.. you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is: Never get involved in a land war in Asia. Only slightly less well know is this: Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

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Data Fellows announces F-Secure SSH for Internet Service Providers
by Jukka Kotovirta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Data Fellows Inc. Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 13th, 1997 Data Fellows announces F-Secure SSH for Internet Service Providers Telecom Finland the first ISP to integrate strong encryption with commercial Internet services Helsinki, Finland - Data Fellows, the leading Internet security solutions provider, announced today a new version of their popular F-Secure SSH product, setting a new level of security for Internet Service Providers (ISPs). F-Secure SSH for ISPs gives the customers of an Internet Service Provider unmatched security by using the SSH security mechanism. The SSH protocol is currently being standardized by the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) as an application-level security mechanism to be used in conjunction with Internet protocols. SSH is already widely used by security-conscious organizations around the world. The first user of F-Secure SSH for ISPs is Telecom Finland, who bundle the product with their Internet services. "Since we are the leading telecommunications operator in Finland, we need to assure that our services are reliable and data security maintained at a high level" says Mr. Harri Johannesdahl, Director of Internet Services, Telecom Finland. "Good security features also help us maintain our leading edge in this highly competitive market." The F-Secure product line offers strong end-user authentication and encryption of any transferred data. Because the technologies are of European origin, they are not limited by U.S. Export control. Internet Service Providers around the world can now add strong security to their product offering. "Our F-Secure line of products guarantees ultimate security on the Internet. Now companies can use the Internet as a serious business tool without the fear of compromising their corporate assets because of any lack of security", explains Mr. Risto Siilasmaa, CEO of Data Fellows Inc. "Also private Internet users will benefit from this development." The authentication of users dialling in is done with cryptography, making management and access control much easier to arrange on a large scale. Dialling in can be done through any network structure, including the Internet itself, facilitating Internet roaming. "Internet users will gain immediate benefit from F-Secure products. And the emerging concept of 'extranets' between companies cannot launch safely without strong authentication and encryption mechanisms", concludes Mr. Siilasmaa. Data Fellows company background Privately owned Data Fellows is the leading technology provider of data security solutions for computer networks and individual desktop computers. The F-Secure product family offers protection for sensitive communications over TCP/IP networks in Windows, Macintosh and UNIX environments. The family includes products for the creation of strongly encrypted virtual private networks (F-Secure VPN), secure electronic commerce solutions (F-Secure Commerce) and secure files and folders on the local PC using strong encryption (F-Secure Desktop). The F-PROT product is the industry's leading virus protection software. These products are available world-wide in more than 40 countries through Data Fellows and its business partners. See http://www.DataFellows.com for more information. Contact information Europe: USA: Data Fellows Ltd. Data Fellows Inc. Päiväntaite 8 4000 Moorpark Avenue, Suite 207 FIN-02210 ESPOO, FINLAND San Jose, CA 95117, USA tel. +358 9 478 444 tel. (408) 244 9090 fax +358 9 4784 4599 fax (408) 244 9494 http://www.DataFellows.com email: F-Secure-Sales(a)DataFellows.com RTF file ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jukka Kotovirta Tel +358 9 478 444 Director OEM Sales & Major Accounts Fax +358 9 4784 4599 Data Fellows Ltd. Mobile +358 405 883 933 Paivantaite 8 Jukka.Kotovirta(a)DataFellows.com 02210 Espoo http://www.DataFellows.com/ Finland, Europe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Access to Storage and Communication Keys et al
by Peter Nicol - VRL / BroomStick Productions 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Secrecy is a tool, period. Who is TruthMonger? There are *no* > tools (at this abstract level) that are used exclusively by the > state. Also, the raw material of politics is human nature, and politics > permeates all human activity, whether connected to the state or not. > > > > > Two daughters of a silk merchant live in Kyoto, > > > > The elder is twenty, the younger, eighteen. > > > > A soldier may kill with his sword, > > > > But these girls slay men with their eyes. > > > > > > Basho? > > Ummm . . . My copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" only attributes this to > > "A well known Japanese poet". Do you know anythang? > > I no nothing. > > Many years ago I was heavily into zen -- I have a well-worn copy of > Zen Flesh, Zen Bones at home. Further exploration lead me to > Chuang-tzu: > > http://songbird.com/gc/river/chuangtzu.html > danke > Perhaps I saw that poem in ZFZB. But I have a couple of collections > of Japanese poetry at home, as well as a very nice edition of Basho's > "Journey to the North", or whatever it's called (it gets translated > different ways, and I am confused...) > > > current project: www.iinet.net.au/~ratty/legends > > This has moved... Not only that, but the site and the client SUCK. Oh how I hate capitalism. Even when I try to be one of the "winners" and involve myself in it, I still hate it. etc etc rant on > -- > Kent Crispin "No reason to get excited", > kent(a)songbird.com the thief he kindly spoke... > PGP fingerprint: B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44 61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55 > http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html > Thankyou for your posts. It pleases me to see that a bunch of crypto intellectuals will take my posts seriously. I have been interested in this topic for a while and only recently got my shit together enough to understand how to subscribe to a mailing list. The last time I used PGP was when it was in DOS and I found it a hassle. Does that make me a clueless newbie? Ummm . . . my training was in Non Violent Action (NVA). This is being used by ppl at the moment to protect Gibblett Forest from being clear fell logged by a (IMNSHO) corrupt "Conservation and Land Management" (CALM) authority in Western Australia. As a way of countering destructive paranoia, we have developed a doctrine of "secrecy is a tool of the state". (I am well aware of the limitations of Doctrine as a logical formal system godelwise). To this end, we have NO SECRETS. Everything we do is "public domain", ie, everyone, including our "enemies" gets to know it. In practice, this is simple, ie Civil Disobedience. You wanna log the trees, we gonna stop you, aint no big secret. We even go to the lengths of notifying the authourites, ie CALM/police of our strategies and telling them who will be doing an arrestable action on a particular day. At the moment we have 3 ppl up Karri trees on platforms. I find it very empowering. I see no need for secrets. Sure, secrecy is a tool. I ask these questions: 1. Does it work. 2. Is it useful. (also known as the Doctrine of Utility) 3. Does it make me happy. I usually use these to analyse behaviour patterns, but hey . . . 1. Hmmmm . . . It kinda works, but it is a big hassle. Then you gotta worry about looking like you are trying to hide somethang and thereby attracting attention. Also, you get to worry about IF it does actually work and is uncrackable/contains no back door etc. 2. If you are paranoid or cannot organize yourself so that secrecy is unneccessary. 3. I am not sure WHAT makes me happy, but secure communications and commerce are not high on my list of priorities. Perhaps an end to paranoia and capitalism that REQUIRE secure comms would make me happy. Anyway . . . Thanx for the pointer Neter Picol Violence is the last refuge of the Incompetent - Assimov (?) A week is long time in crypto politics Pete Nicol Global Media Magnet nicol(a)iap.net.au BroomStick Productions VRL - the Virtual Record Label (+61 9) 335 9490 fax (+61 9) 335 9508 nicol(a)iap.net.au broomstick(a)occtech.com.au Current Project: www.iinet.com.au/~ratty/legends

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FYI: release of "For the Record: Protecting Electronic Health Information"
by Lee Gibbon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On-line versions appear to be available at this site as well as means to buy it. http://www.nap.edu/bookstore/enter2.cgi?0309056977 For the Record: Protecting Electronic Health Information by: Committee on Maintaining Privacy and Security in Health Care Applications of the National Information Infrastructure, National Research Council ISBN 0-309-05697-7; 1997, 288 pages "...This book makes practical detailed recommendations for technical and organizational solutions and national-level initiatives. For the Record describes two major types of privacy and security concerns that stem from the availability of health information in electronic form: the increased potential for inappropriate release of information held by individual organizations (whether by those with access to computerized records or those who break into them) and systemic concerns derived from open and widespread sharing of data among various parties. The committee reports on the technological and organizational aspects of security management, including basic principles of security; the effectiveness of technologies for user authentication, access control, and encryption; obstacles and incentives in the adoption of new technologies; and mechanisms for training, monitoring, and enforcement...."

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New key for shamrock@netcom.com
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- C'punks, I am preparing to retire my old 1024 bit RSA key. It was generated 1/14/1993 and good key hygiene suggests it is time to retire this key. What better time to generate a new key than now that PGP has moved away from shaky MD-5 and patent encumbered RSA to DSS and DH. I would ask anyone that signed my old key to please sign my new key with fingerprint 4A17 A6D7 8E80 3B44 C196 F509 8971 9FA7 B663 B0FD. The key is on the servers. Thanks, - --Lucky -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM5+iUwSQkem38rwFAQFQPAP/U8Ck6CYQUJI8W/TEf3BQDW1XF0YmYsF1 GcuIp9fYQnRXdB7fKdYvzSffaSs/N5TCjmyeqpTyuE9c7nFqIlu6L+iHoiwdaFdj UR3DBesS1BpmA71kRKzyt3bue1qttz+dhbhcQFd421sPzkqA7gSkOaQzP1ujspI7 mNS8FH9LyGs= =hwfW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Put a stake through the heart of DES! Join the quest at http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm

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Re: PKCS-11 vs. CDSA APIs
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote : > > Furthermore, as William has mentioned in the past, encrypted instruction > sets make decompiling and thereby reverse engineering the application next > to impossible. Perhaps he has, but I believe I was the one to post about it first. As you know, my fear is magic stuff in OS inner rings that enforces social policies and perhaps also provides "sovereign right of lawful access" to you know who... Encrypted code may be very difficult to decrypt, and if the OS controls key management also nearly impossible to modify (presuming that the encryption is not just XOR'd with the instruction stream which would allow trivial modification once the instructions were decrypted). That combination is nice for copyright enforcement, but sure has some nasty other uses and is a fundemental enabling technology for such future statist possiblities as restrictions on running modified or unapproved software without a license to do so - a software developers license say, or the old Internet drivers license. I am sure that many businesses would be very happy if all their PCs would only allow software that management approved to run - there would be a huge market for such in fact... and probably a lot of the public would willingly buy machines that would only run approved software if they could pay less for the software or access first run movies or other candy unavailable on free machines. It is really hard to think of a way of controlling what the sheeple do with their computers that does not depend on hard encrypted code in both OS and application - code that is decrypted only inside the silicon of the CPU with precautions taken to make access to the decrypted streams very difficult and expensive for hardware probers. Years of trying other methods have failed to produce something practical from a cost and security standpoint; there are just too many smart and persistant people around who will find a means of attacking anything that is exposed. But it is also obvious that there are billions of dollars in revenue lost to software pirates and additional sales of copyright works that don't happen because the owners aren't happy if it is even remotely possible to obtain pirate copies. And money talks, and with those levels of dollars involved one can expect a lot of things to happen, especially in the current DC climate, and with the possiblity that such technology will both provide the protection of intellectual property that the big money interests want and the social control and surveillance that the fascists want. The good part is that making the whole thing adaquately secure is very hard and the attempt may fail, the bad thing is that there very well may be draconian laws that make any attempt to understand or modify the code running on one's computer a serious felony and people may be locked up for years for just trying to determine what a program is doing to them. There have already been attempts to create these laws. But I've said much of this before... Dave Emery die(a)die.com Weston, Mass.

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NEW TRAVEL INFO -- Antigua (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From owner-travel-advisories(a)stolaf.edu Thu Jun 12 16:39:22 1997 Date: 10 Jun 97 11:31:44 EDT From: owner-travel-advisories <owner-travel-advisories(a)stolaf.edu> To: travel-advisories(a)stolaf.edu Subject: NEW TRAVEL INFO -- Antigua Message-ID: <970610153144_76702.1202_CHN44-1(a)CompuServe.COM> Precedence: bulk STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Antigua & Barbuda ============================================================ Antigua and Barbuda - Consular Information Sheet June 9, 1997 Country Description: Antigua and Barbuda is a developing island nation. Tourism facilities are widely available. Entry Requirements: A valid passport or birth certificate and picture ID such as a drivers license are required of U.S. citizens entering Antigua and Barbuda. A return ticket is sometimes requested. Immigration officials are strict about getting exact information about where visitors are staying. There is no fee for entering the country, but there is a $13.00 departure tax. For further information on entry requirements, travelers can contact the Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, 3216 New Mexico Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20016, telephone (202) 362-5122, or the Consulate of Antigua and Barbuda in Miami. Medical Facilities: Medical care is limited. Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health services. U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the U.S. In some cases, supplemental medical insurance with specific overseas coverage, including provision for medical evacuation, has proven useful. For additional health information, travelers may contact the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's international travelers hotline at (404) 332-4559, Internet: http://www.cdc.gov/. Crime Information: Violent crimes and armed assaults have been perpetrated against tourists. Petty street crime also occurs, and valuables left unattended on beaches are subject to theft. The loss or theft of a U.S. passport overseas should be reported to the local police and the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Retaining a copy of the police report may facilitate return travel to the U.S. A lost or stolen birth certificate and/or driver's license generally cannot be replaced outside the U.S. U.S. citizens can refer to the Department of State's pamphlet "A Safe Trip Abroad," which provides useful information on guarding valuables and protecting personal security while traveling abroad. Both this pamphlet and "Tips for Travelers to the Caribbean" are available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402. Drug Penalties: U.S. citizens are subject to the laws of the country in which they are traveling. Penalties for possession, use and trafficking in illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect lengthy jail sentences and heavy fines. Aviation Oversight: As a result of an assessment conducted by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in July 1996, the FAA has found the government of Antigua and Barbuda's civil aviation authority not to be in compliance with international aviation safety standards for oversight of Antigua and Barbuda's air carrier operations. While consultations to correct the deficiencies are ongoing, Antigua and Barbuda's carriers are permitted to conduct limited operations to the U.S. subject to heightened FAA surveillance. Based on the FAA's determination, the Department of Defense does not permit U.S. military personnel to use carriers from Antigua and Barbuda for official business except for flights originating from or terminating in the U.S., or in extenuating circumstances. For further information, travelers may contact the Department of Transportation at 1-(800) 322-7873. Traffic Safety/Road Conditions: Driving in Antigua and Barbuda is on the left-hand side of the road, as in the United Kingdom. Roads are narrow and in poor condition. There is relatively little police enforcement of traffic regulations. The condition of the roads and the speed at which many persons drive lead to serious traffic accidents. More detailed information on roads and traffic safety can be obtained from the Antigua Tourist Board, tel. (268) 462-0480, or the Director General of Tourism, tel. (268) 462-1005. Embassy Location/Registration: U.S. citizens may register with the U.S. Consular Agent, Hospital Hill, English Harbour. The mailing address is c/o U.S. Consular Agent, P.O. Box 664, St. John's, Antigua. The telephone number is (268) 463-6531, Fax (268) 460-1569, e-mail (no caps) ryderj(a)candw.ag. The hours of operation are Monday-Friday, 9:00am-4:00pm. (Please call for appointment.) U.S. citizens may also contact the Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy in Bridgetown, Barbados, which is located in the American Life Insurance Company (ALICO) Building, Cheapside, tel. (246) 431-0225, which has consular jurisdiction over Antigua and Barbuda. The hours of operation are Monday-Friday, 8:00am-4:00pm. No. 97-098 This replaces the Consular Information Sheet dated March 15, 1996 to include entry requirements information, the CDC Internet address, and a section on traffic safety/road conditions. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- The "travel-advisories(a)stolaf.edu" mailing list is the official Internet and BITNET distribution point for the U.S. State Department Travel Warnings and Consular Information Sheets. 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The Recent Trend in "Collective Contracts"
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm not a lawyer, but I am interested in the various ramifications--and the constitutionality--of recent "sweeping contracts" between vendors, lawmakers, consumers, etc. Two recent example: 1. The "tobacco agreement." Supposedly a deal involving the transfer of $360 billion from some number of tobacco companies in exchange for dropping of liability suits, immunity from future claims, voluntary restrictions (!) on advertising, etc. (And the "etc." is especially complicated in this huge case.) 2. The "voluntary ratings" agreement being announced today by Al Gore and some of the television networks. (Earlier "voluntary agreements" were implemented, but, according to supporters of censorship, "failed." Hence the new push for newer voluntary restrictions.) The issue, it seems to me, is that ordinary concepts of illegality and civil liability are being swept aside in favor of these huge "deals" to reduce liability in exchange for various actions. Well, who is bound by these deals? If "Tim's Tobacco Company" starts up next year, after this deal is "signed," is his company bound by this deal? If Tim the Smoker develops lung cancer, is he blocked from suing? (Caveat: My personal and libertarian view is that lawsuits against cigarette companies are wrong and should not be supported in a free society. And lawsuits by various states to "recover health care costs" are especially bogus. By this logic, McDonald's could be sued by California because California paid out more health care benefits to meat-eaters than it did to vegetarians. Utterly bogus.) Anyway, the free speech aspects of these deals are also worrisome. The "voluntary restrictions" on advertising, for example. Would the aforementioned "Tim's Tobacco Company," not a party to this Grand Deal, be somehow bound by a deal wherein it could not sponsor sporting events? Or advertise? Or even speak out against the deal? Imagine the implications for cryptography, using the logic of these kinds of deals: "The voluntary agreement reached between the cryptography industry and Washington calls for companies to voluntarily limit key sizes to 64 bits unless a key recovery scheme is used. And Washington agrees to drop RICO charges against PGP Inc. and RSA Data Security Inc. in return. Book publishers, who became part of the negotiations last summer, have agreed to limit the information published in books in exchange for relaxations on the export requirements for computer media. " Far fetched? Perhaps. But note the similarities to these other "collective contracts." And in many ways the Telephony Act, aka CALEA (Communications Act for Law Enforcement Access), was just such a deal. When the various telecom companies essentially said "we can live with this bill," they were tacitly committing themselves to just such a collective contract. (What happens when a new telecom company starts up and finds that it has been "bound" to provide wiretap points into its switches?) It seems to me that these contracts are going to collapse completely when the Supreme Court points out that they bind nonparticipants to terms which limit their constitutionally protected rights. (Quibblers can claim that "corporations have no constitutional rights," but the publishing companies which publish newspapers would take exception to this. And so on. There are many cases where corporations are enjoying the fruits of the Constitution. As it should be.) These huge mega-deals are a crummy way to interpret the U.S. Constitution. I fear the "Grand Compromise" deal that the telecom and crypto companies are being drawn into. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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