December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: The Executive State
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone doubting that the center of gravity of world power is shifting would do well to ponder: 100 of the world's top CEO's are going to Bill Gates' house to hear him expound on what the future will look like. IF that doesn't make you nervous nothing will. It's at least as nervewracking as anything Clinton admin. might do. At 07:26 PM 5/6/97 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:46:19 -0700 >From: thomasu(a)mail.auburn.edu >To: misesmail(a)colossus.net >Subject: The Executive State >Sender: owner-misesmail(a)colossus.net >Precedence: Bulk > >The Executive State: >The U.S. Presidency vs. American Liberty > > When President Clinton asked golfer Tiger Woods to join him at an official >propaganda event, and even offered to send Air Force One, Tiger answered as >every freedom-loving American should: he had something better to do. He was >going on a vacation with some college chums. > > Tiger has his priorities straight, but his turndown is another indication >that the presidency is shrinking as an institution. It still commands, but >no longer compels, our undying (or dying) obedience, no matter how many >monuments are erected to despots on the Washington Mall. This trend is all >to the good. > > The legacy of presidential autocracy from the earliest days of the >republic to the present survives in the form of the executive state. But >where can you go in the library to find the truth about the havoc U.S. >presidents have wrecked on the American promise of freedom? Virtually >nowhere. The official history of the presidency reads like the Lives of the >Saints. > > The Mises Institute intends to do something about this. In the Fall of >1998, we're holding a major academic conference on the American presidency. >Our purpose is to debunk the conventional view that the more power he's >usurped, the better off the American people are. > > All the presidents qualify for study, but we are especially interested in >the checkered careers and dictates of Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Roosevelt I, >Wilson, Roosevelt II, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan. > > If you're a scholar and would like to participate with a paper on some >aspect of a presidential power grab (or one of those few occasions when a >president did some good) let us know. An abstract is all that's necessary >to be considered now. > >The Ludwig von Mises Institute >Auburn, Alabama 36849-5301 >334-844-2500; fax: 334-844-2583 > >--- end forwarded text > > > >----------------- >Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox >e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >Lesley Stahl: "You mean *anyone* can set up a web site and compete > with the New York Times?" >Andrew Kantor: "Yes." Stahl: "Isn't that dangerous?" >The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ > > > > >

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by DataET Research Data Engineering Technologies 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Duplicate checking: Ignore
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test sent via cyberpass.net Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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AWK_war
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wash Post reports today on a NSA intercept of a "secure communication" between two Israeli spooks discussing a top US official spying for Israel. The FBI opened an investigation in January. Israel denies the claim. Crypto is not mentioned, only that the Hebrew conversation was "awkwardly" translated. The intercept was withdrawn after 12 hours from the distribution list due to FBI's dismay at its spread. ------- AWK_war

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Banking Secrecy and Nazi Gold
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I try to deconstruct events, to determine what the real issues are. Take the case of the ongoing flap over Switzerland and claims that Swiss banks hid gold, jewels, and other forms of money for high-ranking Nazis. Adding to the flap--actually, making it a newsworthy event--is the allegation, probably true, that some of the gold was taken from Jews and others sent to extermination camps. (A further claim, not related to the Nazi claim directly, is that the bank accounts of those who perished in the war were not made available to heirs, that in some cases the banks even liquidated the accounts and used the money for (unspecified) purposes. I know little about this particular claim, and won't discuss it further.) OK, so it's clear to all right-thinking persons what should be done: Switzerland should return the money to the heirs of those killed by the Nazis. Ah, but it's not so clear to me. I guess I'm not a right-thinking person. First, it is not a matter of "Switzerland" having done something, it is a matter of several major banks and dozens (I presume) of lesser banks. It is Credit Suisse, Union Bank, etc. who presumably took in deposits, with numbered accounts (perfectly legal by Swiss law at the time), not the "state of Switzerland." Second, how could the _provenance_ of the deposits be determined by, say Credit Suisse? How could Hans the Banker taking a deposit from Fritz the Depositer somehow know that the money Fritz was depositing was from money seized from Jews? For all Hans knew, especially in 1939-43, before any real knowleedge of the extermination of Jews became available (and such knowledge was still rare, as any examination of the newspapers of the day will show), the money was from German families seeking to protect their own assets, or was even money siphoned from the German war effort, and so on. Third, the notion that "Switzerland must do something!" is pernicious and inimical to banking secrecy and basic privacy issues. A drumbeat is building which will serve to undermine banking secrecy around the world. (Now what happened to the Jews in Europe was horrible, depicable, etc. It was an example of the power of the total state to order the liquidation of some religious or ethnic faction. But the horror of the liquidation of millions of Jews, or millions of Chinese, or millions of Tutsis/Hutus, etc., must not be an excuse for expanding the power of states still further. That circular logic will ultimately kill even more in factions out of favor.) This issue relates to Chaumian anonymous cash, of course. One can imagine various scenarios by which crypto anarchy is used to transfer funds, etc. Left as an exercise for the imaginative. As the "Nazi Gold" story continues to build, expect "Swiss bankers" to be added to the list of the "Horsemen." (Swiss bankers always have been viewed with some suspicion--and admiration. Usually related to their "sheltering" of funds from dictators and mobsters. And their has long been the hint of complicity with the Reich in some areas. But now the move is on to associate Swiss banks with the Holocaust more explicitly.) I suspect the U.S. pressure on Swiss banks has a political dimension related to forcing a New World Order on international banking. The U.S. wants banking secrecy subject to U.S. control (so that banks like Castle Bank, Nugan Hand Bank, Banco Ambrosiano, BCCI, and the Bank of America can continue to be used for U.S. interests, and only U.S. interests). The Jews killed by the German state in the war are dead and gone. Most of their money is irretrievably gone. The clamor to break banking secrecy and "force" the banks to disclose all records is part of a larger political game. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Test, Ignore
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test message send via algebra.com Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Platt <cp(a)panix.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Cc: Charles Platt <cp(a)panix.com> Subject: Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal > From: Jonah Seiger <jseiger(a)cdt.org> > However, despite our concerns about the criminal provisions, we believe > strongly that the SAFE bill, and the bills in the Senate sponsored by Burns > and Leahy, are vitally important and should be passed. This kind of "pragmatism" is precisely why I have no faith whatsoever in CDT. There's a slippery slope, here, that really IS a slippery slope. As soon as you agree with the principle that the legislators can and SHOULD pass laws in a certain area, you risk losing large chunks of freedom. Conversely, so long as the area remains sacrosanct, free of legislation (e.g. the content of private mail), the situation remains clear and clean. Once you have one law, naturally some special-interest group will complain, some lobbyists will have their own ideas, some other legislators will see an opportunity to extend/clarify/amend/expand the legislation, and before you know it, you've got the war on drugs or something similar, costing billions, depriving relatively innocent people of their liberty, and achieving nothing. I absolutely agree with Tim May. There is no excuse for introducing legislation to control something fundamentally harmless that is not currently controlled. More legislation is absolutely the LAST thing this country needs. > Congress needs to stand up to the Administration and say, with a strong > voice, "your policy is a failure - we need a different solution". That's > what SAFE, Pro-CODE, and ECPA II do. For some reason I have difficulty trusting Congress to protect my rights in this matter, or in any other matter. Those who seek help from government should recall Barry Goldwater's famous quote, which went something like this: "When you have a government big enough to give you everything you want, it's big enough to take it all away."

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Re: AP --> AR
by Casey Iverson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:02 PM 5/6/97 EDT, you wrote: >nobody(a)huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) writes: > >> >> Tim May verily saith [paraphrase]: >> >> > I would cry few tears if D.C. got nuked >> >> This will be an historical event of importance comparable to the >> American Revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall. > >I'm all for it! > Me too. Especially if the collateral damage reached Forest Hills and the degenerate Russian scumbag Vulis.

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Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:24:57 +0200 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Wendy Leibowitz <wendyl(a)LJEXTRA.COM> Subject: Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM While aware of the irony of sending an unsolicited message from Cyber Promotions to a large group of people, this bulletin just arrived from our friends at Cyber: PHILADELPHIA, 5-7-97 Bulk e-mail giant Cyber Promotions is under attack by "anti-spam" hackers. This concentrated attack was planned for several weeks, and has been publicly discussed on Internet newsgroups. The hackers are using a brand new method to deny service to all Cyber Promotions' computers hooked to a main router on an AGIS line. The hackers have devised a system which sends millions of random "arp" requests to a router, which can disable the whole network for hours. This type of attack has never occurred before. Currently thousands of businesses with web pages and mail box accounts are being denied service. The attack began yesterday around 4 PM Eastern, and is still occurring at press time. But the [source of the] attack is traceable with the help of a backbone provider and computer security specialists. The longer it occurs, the easier it is to trace it back to the hacker. Cyber Promotions will work in conjunction with federal authorities to prosecute the criminals. ....... This latest attack is occurring, by no coincidence, on the same day that Cyber Promotions, AGIS and several bulk e-mailers scheduled a press conference in Las Vegas to discuss the formation of a new association which will enforce a universal "don not send" list along with many other ethical bulk e-mail standards. ........... It goes on, but I need to ponder the meaning of "ethical bulk e-mail standards." Wendy R. Leibowitz, Technology Editor National Law Journal 345 Park Ave. South New York, NY 10010 E-mail: wendyl(a)ljextra.com "Remember, even pencils break." --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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The Microsoft Provocateur
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New Yorker of May 12 has a long profile by Ken Auletta on Myhrvold, "The Microsoft Provocateur": "For a decade, Nathan Myhrvold, Bill Gate's corporate gadfly, has been writing copious, bombastic, brilliant, and confidential memos for his boss. To read them is to understand a lot about Microsoft -- and the future." ----- http://jya.com/myhrvold.htm (56K)

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US Citizens doing crypto work overseas
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have any idea how extensive the legal entaglements might be for a US Citizen to accept work overseas developing crypto software for a foreign company? Someone at a company in Australia is interested in hiring some crypto-clued folks, and has asked me if it's even worth pursuing any US citizens. advTHANKSance -- Matt Curtin Chief Scientist Megasoft Online cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself Death to small keys. Crack DES NOW! http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm

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Hackers! <ooh, do it again> Hackers!
by Rick Osborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"the Net" Magazine, #6 for June 97 page 96, has a blurb entitled "NetSurfer Archetypes: Seven Frightening Case Studies", one of which is of course "The Hacker". It says: The Hacker alias: :parasite: modus operandi: Breaks into Procter & Gamble's main database, and inserts a script that sends a free home pregnancy test to every man, woman, and child in North America. identifying marks: Pacific Bell lineman's uniform ("Hank from the Central Office sent me. You fellas got the security keys we requested?) favorite Web site: 25 Real-Life MacGuyvers philosophy of life: "43NytRoPH" _________ o s b o r n e @ g a t e w a y . g r u m m a n . c o m _________ DOS Tip #17: Add DEVICE=FNGRCROS.SYS to CONFIG.SYS

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Paper on IBM's New Crypto
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For the paper describing IBM's new public key algorithm by Miklos Ajtai and Cynthia Dwork of IBM's Almaden Research Center in San Jose, California: ftp://ftp.eccc.uni-trier.de/pub/eccc/reports/1996/TR96-065/index.html IBM's press release on it: http://jya.com/ibmkey.htm

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PGP
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C[retin] Mayflower styles his facial hair to look more like pubic hair. ,,, -ooO(o o)Ooo- Tim C[retin] Mayflower (_)

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pgMedia, Inc. vs. Network Solutions, Inc. PARTY!
by mf＠mediafilter.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Business needs over citizen rights
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's interesting that in the various recent developments over crypto, the needs of business are taking priority over the basic rights of citizens. In fact, the debate is being driven by issues of "competitiveness." * In the latest round of crypto export policy, relayed to us by Will Rodger of "Interactive Week," it is relaxation of export for financial and banking software that is being pushed. (Possibly connected to the next item, though.) * Meanwhile, the Administration's "Crypto Import Restrictions" (officially entitled "The Safe Streets, Child Protection, and Public Safety Act") are about to be introduced, as reported to us by Brock Meeks (on this list by Bill Stewart). It is possible that this is also related to corporate interests, as this would stop certain offshore developers--unhindered by U.S. laws--from competing in the U.S. against U.S. companies (this is mere speculation on my part, but it may be part of the big picture). * And SAFE has special provisions for financial cryptography (read: Banking interests), while also putting the screws to any citizen-units who step out of bounds with crypto. ...and so on. What these trends add up to is an almost complete disregard for basic, fundamental issues of civil liberties and freedom in favor of various craftings of laws to advantage some American companies, disadvantage other American companies, and manipulate the international competitive scene. This is what politics has always been, of course. Pork barrels and pigs at the trough, to mix some porcine metaphors. It shows how far we have degenerated as a nation. Exactly which parts of the First, Second, etc. Amendments do these porkers not understand? May they all be vaporized. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Since when is supporting unrestricted crypto unreasonable?
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:46 PM 5/6/97 -0500, Omegaman wrote: >I'm starting to think that until someone actually gets arrested and >jailed for using strong, unbreakable encryption that is "suspected" of >supporting a crime, little will change. In the meantime, the >administration, Congress, and the TLA's will keep getting closer to >achieving their goals. Ahh, but the government is far too clever to haul up Phil Cypherpunk and charge him with "Encryption with intent to hide". Instead, they'll wait until they get a Tim McVeigh-esque case, show that he "conspired" using encryption, and say "See how tough on crime we are? We must convict and fry this evil militia member. And give him an extra 230 volts for using encryption, according to the SAFE law." There isn't an American politician alive who would dare publically ask to have a McVeigh-level-case's sentence reduced or any stupid charges dropped. "Sorry, I can't appear soft on this kind of criminal!" Then, there is *legal precedent* for all kinds of criminals to get the extra 5 years (or 230 volts). Then, when they DO come around and pound down the doors of Jim Cypherpunk for having evil thoughts about FBI agents and find an encrypted copy of Penthouse; well, hey, that law's been tested on the books before. Lock him up. When charges are brought up against a suspect, the suspect is truly spammed with all manner of accusations. It's how the legal game is played. Find someone you want to lock up, then throw enough turds and some will eventually stick. Tim May's new signature nicely reflects this. Therefore, citizens won't ever "win" if ProCODE or SAFE or whatever is enacted. It'll just be another turd thrown at suspects.

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Re: Banking Secrecy and Nazi Gold
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone sent me private mail about my post, and suggested that Swiss bankers have historically had close ties to the Swiss government, e.g, most are reserve officers in the Swiss military. He also suggested that Switzerland is more of a police state than many realize. Here is my reply: I don't argue otherwise. Likewise, Monaco is a video surveillance state, with hundreds of cameras scattered in hidden locations throughout that tiny place. Neither are places I'd want to live. But the deposits of the 1930s-40s are ancient history. As I said, I see the current foofaw as being political. (Just as the Kurt Waldheim thing was political, in that Israel, the U.S., and many other states knew of Waldheim's war record and chose to exploit the knowledge rather than reveal it.) If the U.S. forces the illegal gains to be "given back," mightn't the fortune Joe Kennedy amasses as a rum runner be seized? The Kennedy clan made its considerable fortune through outlaw activities, even to the (probable) point of buying the '60 election (Illinois, as I'm sure you know). (Not suggesting rum running = extermination of Jews. Far from it. But the notion of going back to events of 50-60 years ago, when ignored in the intervening decades, must always be scrutinized for real intentions.) Lastly, I really wish you'd make more of your comments in a public way, so that my responses can be public. --Tim There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: (fwd) Cell Phone Cancer Study
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As follow up to the Stewart Fist report on new findings of cell-phone hazards, the Jerusalem Post says that the report is causing alarm in Israel -- where cell-phones are heavily used -- and that the government intends to investigate. Motorola et al are hunkered. The scientific study is in the journal "Radiation Research," Volume 147, Number 5, May 1997: http://www.cjp.com/radres/html/may97toc.htm Michael H. Repacholi, Antony Basten, Val Gebski, Denise Noonan, John Finnie and Alan W. Harris "Lymphomas in Emu-Pim1 Transgenic Mice Exposed to Pulsed 900 MHz Electromagnetic Fields" (p. 631) However, there is not an on-line version, unless someone knows of it elsewhere. What say the cellular folks here to this story?

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Re: (fwd) Cell Phone Cancer Study
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks for critiquing this sensitive topic. The 11-page paper was published by Radiation Research, as noted here, whose editor is at Oak Ridge National Lab, if that offers credibility. Radiation Research's Web site shows an impressive range of credentials of scientists in the field, perhaps superior, if more specialized, to that of Science and Nature, both which oft times suffers the chancres of promiscuous sci-populuxitis. Best is to see the report for oneself. A copy is available for US$30.00 by fax. Request by calling the publisher at (423) 574-5874. Or E-mail to: Radiation Research Biology Division Oak Ridge National Laboratory <radres(a)aol.com> We've had a layman's look and cite the authors' final cautionary paragraph: "This is not to imply that any humans at all are necessarily at increased risk of cancer as a consequence of exposure to RF fields. No single experiment on animals can allow such a conclusion. Rather, we believe the study reported here indicates a need for further research. Tumorigenesis in genetically predisposed mice may provide a useful assay for interactions between RF fields and biological systems. With the current rapid expansion in the use of RF fields for telecommunications, a reliable assay is required to enable a better assessment of limits to safe levels of human exposure." Send more money or die, sucker, the "responsible" scientist's clanging alarm, eh?

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Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Dave Hayes wrote: > > Igor Chudov writes: > > > I am interested in your view, Dave. > > > > There are only two reasons that I can see your interest serving. > > You either wish to support my views or oppose them. Neither case > > serves your potential enlightement, therefore I shall choose to > > not answer. > Dave, you are a very insightful man, but in this case you were > mistaken: I am interested to hear your views for my enlightenment. I responded that way for a reason. I offered my view on spamming spammers. You replaced "spamming spammers" with "hacking spammers". I do not see the relevance, hence my answer. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Who are the learned? Those who put into practice what they know.

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(fwd) Elctronic Funds Transfer Expansion Act
by Damaged Justice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Post Office Credit Union' _Credit Union Post_, Spring 1997: Congress recently passed a law making it mandatory to receive government payments by direct deposit to a financial institution. It's called "Electronic Funds Transfer Expansion Act," and it requires all federal payments, except an IRS refund check to be issued by electronic funds transfer (Direct Deposit). It will affect anyone who receives veteran's benefits, Social Security, federal government and military pensions and salaries, or any government payment. Members who have their payments sent to Post Office Credit Union will have _immediate access_ to their money. So what are you waiting for? If you don't already have direct deposit, consider signing up for it. It's not only easy, convenient, and safe, it will soon be mandatory for all! Give us a call at 244-3518 to take advantage of direct deposit today! -- [The] "Electronic Funds Transfer Expansion Act".. requires all federal payments except an IRS refund check to be issued by electronic funds transfer. So what are you waiting for? If you don't already have direct deposit, consider signing up for it. It's not only easy, convenient, and safe, it will soon be mandatory for all! [Post Office Credit Union' Credit Union Post_, Spring 1997]

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Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ray Arachalian writes: > On Tue, 6 May 1997, Dave Hayes wrote: > > Igor Chudov writes: > > > I am interested in your view, Dave. > > There are only two reasons that I can see your interest serving. > > You either wish to support my views or oppose them. Neither case > > serves your potential enlightement, therefore I shall choose to > > not answer. > A very Zen answer (and quite a slippery one at that.) Thank you. > What if Igor was simply curious as to your views? Curiosity does not generally have zero attachment to other goals. If it did in this case, the information is not useful. > If not what difference does it make whether he supports or opposes > your view? Moo. > Why do you care whether or not a person is enlightened by your > response? I don't. > If you truly are following Zen, then it is not for you to decide > what will or won't enlighten others since this would mean taking > responsability for another person's karma. I neither follow nor lead Zen, but it is interesting to note your conjugation of "truth" and it's implications. > IMHO, your response isn't one of potentially enlightening others, but rather > fear of sharing your opinion. Since it is clear you cannot understand the former, the latter is all that is open to you to understand. Perhaps that is good enough, for your purposes. > This is two fold. If you fear he will oppose it, you are seeking > the approval of others. If you fear he will agree to it, you fear > that those who oppose his views will oppose yours. There are many more folds that you have overlooked. I may desire him to oppose it, thus seeking negative approval. I may desire him to agree to it, thus seeking positive approval. I may desire him to neither agree nor oppose it, thus seeking his enlightenment by my words, which is really seeking positive approval. I may fear he will neither agree nor oppose it, thus seeking his lack of enlightenment by my words, which is really seeking negative approval. > You could take the hidden third option and claim privacy, however it > is too late to do so since you have already shared some commentary - > and thus this path is closed to you. No path is closed to me, except by my choice. > Your responses so far were to the ethical and moral standards of spamming the > spammers. I wasn't interested in such. I am comfortable with my own morals > and take responsability for my actions. However, the point of this paragraph > is that you have tried to share with us your morals, and thus thrust them > upon us, later, here, you say you lack the will to share your views with us, > and thus back out of passing judgement on our hypothetical actions. > And at this point I am no longer interested in your oppinion on this > matter for it is jaded by fear, so please, don't even bother to reply. :) Notice the way you respond to my sharing: You pass judgement on my views, thus preventing your own enlightenment. Then you say you lack the will to be interested in my response, thus becoming guilty of what you claim I am guilty of. This was truly a mirrored interchange. I thank you for the opportunity to witness my self in you. ;-) ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet A passerby caught Nasrudin prying open the window of his own bedroom from the outside in the depths of night. "What are you doing? Locked out?" "Hush!" came the reply. "They say I walk in my sleep. I am trying to surprise myself and find out."

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GAK Spreads, FRB Smirks
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A news report today that 22 new members have joined the Key Recovery Alliance, now 61 total. A meeting in Toronto on April 24-25 reviewed committee reports on key recovery prospects for "facilitating the wordlwide use of strong cryptography." And, two Federal Reserve economists claim that smart cards and E-cash have a ways to go to compete with well-tested and trusted paper bucks. No, they smirk, these views do not protect the FRB's central bank hegemony. Both reports at: http://jya.com/krafrb.txt

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No Subject
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 From: Graham-John Bullers <real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> To: lucifer Anonymous Remailer <lucifer(a)dhp.com> Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: PGP I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. On Tue, 6 May 1997, lucifer Anonymous Remailer wrote: > Tim C[retin] Mayflower styles his facial hair to look more > like Graham-John Bullers. > > ,,, > -ooO(o o)Ooo- Tim C[retin] Mayflower > (_) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham-John Bullers Modulator of alt.2600.modulated ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email : real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca : ab756(a)freenet.toronto.on.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~real/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: [NTSEC] 64-bit En/Decryption speed (fwd)
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 14:17:55 -0400 From: Craig Nulan <Craig.Nulan(a)ccmail.irs.gov> To: Bill Stout <stoutb(a)pios.com>, ntsecurity(a)iss.net Subject: Re: [NTSEC] 64-bit En/Decryption speed 577 Mghz No hardware abstraction layer The native platform on which NT was developed No need to validate beyond this. 10 times or faster. The DEC marketing rhetoric re: Alphas, is fairly reliable, unlike Microsoft's representations re: NT security. Has anyone else on this list examined the apparent demise of TCSEC product evaluations? Anyone else questioned why MS failed to keep NT in the RAMP process subsequent to getting version 3.5 C2 certified in a workstation configuration? Does it strike anyone else as odd that the U.K.'s ITSEC product evaluations are vendor sponsored, vendor scheduled, and conducted in private test environments? Does anyone believe that NT can ever be restructured into a general purpose operating system? A secure, general purpose O/S? Two URL's you'll want to remember. csrc.nist.gov - here you'll want to look at the the `94 and `95 annual reports (and meeting minutes) of the Computer Security and Privacy Advisory Board www.ecma.ch - where you can read first hand how security evaluation criteria are evolving Could it be that it's time to consider NT security from the perspective of the forest rather than from the perspective of endless little leaves on endless expanses of trees?

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Igor's Diabolical Mind
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > some of the best hacks that I heard was to install a trojan > instead of, say, cat, that would randomly change one byte in > a randomly chosen file. Igor, I am currently monitoring a friend's system in order to analyze the source and methodologies of various attacks on it and I spend my spare time reading his email, databases, private diaries, etc. (I am blessed with breasts which allow me to set a man's car on fire and know he will just smile, and say, "That's OK, I'll get another one.") His comments regarding "Igor" imply that you have a diabolical mind and a good nose for nasty business. I can tell from your comments above that he judged you fairly well. Most hackers tend to be one-time Charlie's who pop into a low security system to mark their territory by pissing on a directory tree, so to speak, or adding their own personal form of graffiti and then returning home to pat themselves on the back for their great genius. In many cases the admin of a good system will have everything back to normal before the hacker has finished congratulating himself. The system intruder I am currently dealing with has a long history of success in his nefarious activities and one of the main reasons for this is his patience and his subtlety. Once he gains entry to a system he generally sets up an obscure back door for himself, pulls a directory tree, finds out the backup schedule, and then exits. He then lays out a plan of attack which is geared toward allowing him to roam the system at will without being observed. Usually, he will start by replacing such things as the system 'ps' command with one that keeps certain processes hidden from the prying eyes of sysadmins. He also substitutes his own programs for system files which are rarely installed and/or used. He is one of a rare breed of pure hackers whose main focus is system penetration and information access, with control issues being secondary. This requires a level of patience that allows him to observe the system for months, if necessary, before moving to secure his long-term ability to penetrate the system and roam at will. Once an intruder has his handiwork on the previous few months of system backups, then you might say that he has become a "tenured" member of your organization. I have had previous experience with the individual involved in the compromise of my friend's system (and ISP) and I am well aware of the fact that much of his power comes from the fact that he tends not to interfere with the functioning of one's system unless he is attacked. (In which case he generally fires a shot over the sysadmin's bow, indicating that the choices are "peaceful coexistence" or "explaining to management that their system is 'toast' because you chose to cop an attitude.") The only way, to my knowledge, that anyone has ever forced his exit from a system he has penetrated has been by ferreting out enough of the substructure of his intrusion that he fears his latest methodologies being discovered and exposed to scrutiny. {In which case he quietly packs up and leaves. {In my case, he sent me flowers, as well.}) On rare occasions he will intervene to fix system problems that are beyond the resident sysadmin, perhaps because the problems are affecting his own activities. When macro capabilities were added to spreadsheet programs, he had a trojan written for them before the shrink-wrap on the new release hit the floor. (He recognized macros as a close cousin to the Unix daemons, which he considers God's gift to pure hackers.) He was lurking on my friend's system in Austin, at the time, and he dropped my friend a polite note that advised him it would be unwise to mess with the files until the hacker had debugged them sufficiently that they would not cause inadvertant problems. His current work-in-progress is a Trojan which is frightening in its scope if it turns out to operate in the manner that I and others now suspect. It may represent a quantum leap in Trojan Horse technology (kind of an Equestrian Trojan Horse). {Its existence was "discovered" by a cypherpunk, by the way.} While I am not at liberty to reveal the as yet sketchy details of how the Trojan operates, I can give you a small glimpse into the the mind of its creator by providing an example of another Trojan that was previously discovered with his signature on it. The Trojan works through a word processor's spell checking and automatic correction system. Nonsensical character sequences are added to the spell checker, in the form of 'xytrz-->delete', 'xribpt-->format', etc. A .doc file is placed on the system which, when spell-corrected, will then become "format c:" or whatever its creator desires. A variety of triggers were discovered for the Trojan, and they encompassed a variety of approaches. (The triggers were indicative of a benign series of probing experiments designed to lead to a finished product versatile enough to bypass any attempt to guard against the Trojan's execution.) A simple trigger would run a .bat file which loaded the file into the word processor, auto-corrected the spelling, saved the file as a .exe file of the creator's choosing, then exited. More complicated triggers involved such things as (in Win 95) giving the file a unique extension (such as .xyz), using the "open with" option to point to a hidden copy of a word processor executable which has no macro-virus protection, etc., and which will run the macros in place in the file when it is opened. (A variation on this trigger takes advantage of the fact that many systems keep outdated versions of word processing software on the system in order to be able to work with older files {which often turn to crap when loaded into the latest-greatest version, despite manufacturer's claims of compatability}. Users and admins generally don't stop to realize that the "protection" they install is often applied only to the newest version of their software.) As you pointed out, Igor, the more subtle a program's operation and effects, the longer it can work undiscovered and the greater the range of the time/space continuim it can encompass. Virus/Trojan checkers generally guard only against system damage and/or loss of data. It is infinitely more difficult to guard against a system intruder who has other goals in mind and has the patience to remain unobtrusive. Even most security conscious system administrators don't take much note of minor glitches as long as they appear to be benign problems inherent in the implementation of the software. The Trojan that I and others are currently working with was only perceived as a potential problem after the person who discovered it had spent months cursing the software manufacturer for not including an obviously needed capability in the product. It was a very minor but frustrating problem, leading the user to make inquiries as to how to "work around" the product's lack of providing this function. Upon discovery that the product was supposed to provide the function, his research quickly indicated that there was a "fly in the ointment." Most users probably would have just shrugged and lived with the problem, since it was relatively minor. Instead, he brought the small anomalie he discovered to the attention of myself and others and it has opened up a Pandora's box that appears to have the potential for a new breed of Trojan Horses. > basically, install lots of backdoors and then play with their minds. Actually, Igor, I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps you are the hacker I've been trying to ferret out? I think I'll keep an eye on you. > some ppl would steal CC# of their customers and publish them, but I would > not do it. The hacker I've been discussing has infiltrated a variety of Pac Bell sites, and the like, over the years. A regional administrator, upon being informed of the presence of an intruder on the system, immediately called in a team of Bay Area security consultants to deal with the problem. By the time they arrived the hacker had sent a small mountain of email to various management personnel which contained precious company secrets and had Pac Bell's competition listed as a cc: (in the body of the message, as a warning). When the group from Berkeley arrived they consulted with the admin about the potential seriousness of the veiled threat, did a quick check of the system, realized who the hacker was that they were dealing with, shrugged, and said, "He's on our system too. We'd advise just leaving him alone." When the administrator questioned the wisdom of their suggestion the consultants advised him that they would be more than happy to proceed as long as the overuling of their opinion was put in writing. The admin agreed, whereupon he was presented with the consultants' standard "reality check" authorization form, whose letterhead reads: AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED CONTRARY TO ADVISED COURSE OF PROCEDURE "Last One Seen Fixing It Gets The Blame" The administrator decided in favor of job-security, and the security consultants were paid generously to provide a generic report for his superiors which indicated that the admin's prompt action resulted in the problem coming to a quick resolution. Personally, I've seen more than a few sysadmins who declare war on a minor hacker instead of just fixing the problem so that it won't occur again and moving on. (Much like some of the hilarious posts in the cypherpunks archives in which a list member responds to a Vulis post by saying, "Just ignore him and he'll go away." and then proceed to take two or three pot-shots at him.) (.)(.)Monger

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crypto.swdev.co.nz ??
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone know why crypo.swdev.co.nz is no longer available via anonymous ftp? Ern

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17 Dec '03

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Kerrey on His Crypto Bill
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Senator Kerrey's office faxed a transcript of his remarks today on his new encryption bill: http://jya.com/kerrey.htm (23K)

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by Lynx_User＠linux.nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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List of GAK supporters
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Below is a list of the members of the "Key Recovery Alliance" who are working hard to make the world safe for GAK. I intend to boycott them, though that may not be possible, since the "Allicance" seems to include just about anybody in the computer industy. It is sickening. Baltimore Technologies nCipher Corp. Boeing NEC Cryptomathic Portland Software GemPlus RedCreek Communications Frontier Technologies Corp. RPK Fujitsu Ltd. Silicon Graphics, Inc. Hitachi Spyrus Open Horizon, Inc. Sterling Commerce Intel Tandem IRE Technical Communications Corp. Mitsubishi Electric America Toshiba America Online, Inc. Mytec Technologies, Inc. Apple Computer, Inc. NCR Corp. Atalla Network Systems Group of StorageTek Certicom Novell, Inc. Compaq Computer Corp. PSA CygnaCom Solutions, Inc. Price Waterhouse Cylink Corp. Racal Data Group Data Securities International Inc. Rainbow Technologies First Data Corp. RSA Digital Equipment Corp. SafeNet Trusted Services Corp. Digital Signature Trust Company Secure Computing Corp. Entrust Technologies SourceFile Gradient Technologies, Inc. Sterling Commerce Groupe Bull Sun Microsystems, Inc. Hewlett-Packard Trusted Information Systems, Inc. IBM Unisys ICL UPS McAfee Utimaco Mergent Mitsubishi Corporation of Japan VPNet Technologies Motorola -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred

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Stego Cash?
by kqb＠planet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Previous Subject: Re: Clinton Admin. to announce new Crypto regs Rick Smith <smith(a)securecomputing.com> said: > These "new" regulations "to be issued" are scrambling to catch up with > previous and current practices. It doesn't change things at all. > . . . > Export permission for strong crypto that only encrypts financial data is > clearly a variant of this tradition. This raises an intriguing possibility that I am sure is _not_ intended by the regulators. If the cash is cheap enough, perhaps it could be an economical carrier of encrypted messages. What I have in mind is somewhat analogous to papering your wall with dollar bills, which clearly is uneconomical unless the dollar bills are really cheap. What does it take to set up an offshore "remailer bank"? Of course, the digital cash it uses must be very INefficient, chock full of bit bloat that hosts plenty of not-so-subliminal channels. 8-) Kevin Q. Brown kqb(a)planet.net

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17 Dec '03

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Re: List of GAK supporters
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:37 PM 5/7/97 -0700, Marshall Clow wrote: >Apple, as far as I know, has no GAK project in place. >In fact, as far as I know, the last GAK-related action >that anyone at Apple has participated, was to participate in >the original press release. Which was a big mistake. I know I complained loudly to them. I suspect others did as well. >This is not meant as a defense of Apple. I have discussed >their support of this organization with senior management there, >and tried to convince them of the errors of their ways. Rather, >it is a comment on their current activities regarding GAK. Do you feel you had success in discussing this issue with them? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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RE: List of GAK supporters
by ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was surprised not to see Netscape or Microsoft on the list. Anybody know the URL of a web site that publishes and regularly updates this list? ---------- From: Lucky Green To: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA; cypherpunks(a)algebra.com Subject: List of GAK supporters Date: Wednesday, May 07, 1997 11:04PM Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note De: Lucky Green Para: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA cypherpunks(a)algebra.com Asunto: List of GAK supporters Fecha: 1997-05-07 23:04 Prioridad: 3 Ident. del mensaje: A9BE1E3B71C6D011AF95006097838CEB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- -- Below is a list of the members of the "Key Recovery Alliance" who are working hard to make the world safe for GAK. I intend to boycott them, though that may not be possible, since the "Allicance" seems to include just about anybody in the computer industy. It is sickening. Baltimore Technologies nCipher Corp. Boeing NEC Cryptomathic Portland Software GemPlus RedCreek Communications Frontier Technologies Corp. RPK Fujitsu Ltd. Silicon Graphics, Inc. Hitachi Spyrus Open Horizon, Inc. Sterling Commerce Intel Tandem IRE Technical Communications Corp. Mitsubishi Electric America Toshiba America Online, Inc. Mytec Technologies, Inc. Apple Computer, Inc. NCR Corp. Atalla Network Systems Group of StorageTek Certicom Novell, Inc. Compaq Computer Corp. PSA CygnaCom Solutions, Inc. Price Waterhouse Cylink Corp. Racal Data Group Data Securities International Inc. Rainbow Technologies First Data Corp. RSA Digital Equipment Corp. SafeNet Trusted Services Corp. Digital Signature Trust Company Secure Computing Corp. Entrust Technologies SourceFile Gradient Technologies, Inc. Sterling Commerce Groupe Bull Sun Microsystems, Inc. Hewlett-Packard Trusted Information Systems, Inc. IBM Unisys ICL UPS McAfee Utimaco Mergent Mitsubishi Corporation of Japan VPNet Technologies Motorola -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred

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Re: Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:35 PM 5/7/97 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote: >Now, if we could only go back 30 years and give C a reasonable string >model, we might be able to eliminate 50% of the known holes in Unix >security. Though shalt not use static size buffers for variable length data. [I don't need to tell this to Bill and many others on this list. The rest better chisel it in granite. :-] -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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Re: The Executive State
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

YOU BET! Similar thoughts went thru my mind as I drove by the Lake the other day. Secret Service is involved in security preparations, somewhat because Gore will be there. God, the thought of all those marketing banalities! At 11:33 AM 5/7/97 -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >In <3.0.32.19970507081934.006bbe28(a)best.com>, on 05/07/97 at 09:20 AM, > geeman <NOSPAM-geeman(a)best.com> said: > > >>Anyone doubting that the center of gravity of world power is shifting >>would do well to ponder: 100 of the world's top CEO's are going to Bill >>Gates' house to hear him expound on what the future will look like. > >>IF that doesn't make you nervous nothing will. It's at least as >>nervewracking as anything Clinton admin. might do. > >Hmmm... 100 top CEO's & Bill Gates all in one place. > >Makes one ponder the possibilities. :) > >- -- >- ----------------------------------------------------------- >William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii >Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 > >Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice >PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. > >Finger whgiii(a)amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info >- ----------------------------------------------------------- > >Tag-O-Matic: I use OS/2 2.0 and I don't care who knows! > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 >Comment: Registered User E-Secure v1.1 ES000000 > >iQCVAwUBM3C9I49Co1n+aLhhAQEZFAQAjnn6QAOr2Ul9XaI0OmZdkRZMriPCOLJX >kHoiFpPxMYJeepzum4U67n4K7FQaFsn+zf5Lpgwd01dkQ3u0MbkF7sA5aGoK4+kR >qVEAUD4saQlUE6TyPIpZniU2Pr0229OB7hS+jFOqeRWeL5uIwSpR+y9YL/cx5afB >eKtNoc/2CrE= >=MswY >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >

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RE: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J
by ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anybody got transcripts for this? ---------- From: Sh.Hanabusa To: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA; cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J Date: Monday, April 28, 1997 5:12AM Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note De: Sh.Hanabusa Para: ARTURO GRAPA YSUNZA cypherpunks(a)toad.com Asunto: TV Documentary "Crypto Wars" ON AIR in J Fecha: 1997-04-28 05:12 Prioridad: 3 Ident. del mensaje: A3CAF0779BBDD011AF92006097838CEB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- -- TV Documentary "CRYPTO WARS" (60min) On air at 8pm Apr 28th (only in Japan) ------------------------------------------ Cast; Sameer Parekh / C2NET Ian Goldberg Tim May Bill Stewart Hugh Daniel Vince Cate Phil Zimmermann / PGP Inc. Eric Schmidt / Sun Microsystems Jeff Treuhaft / Netscape Communications Stewart Baker Dorothy Denning William Reinsh / Commerce Dept. -------------------------------------------- Contents; What is the cypherpunks? RSA Conference US Government's Export Controls Ian Goldberg's 40bit RC5 crack What is the NSA? Feb. Cypherpunks Meeting at Stanford PGP 1.0 Silicon Valley vs US Government Strategy of the "C2 Net" Discussion about "Key Recovery" Financial Cryptography Conference in Anguilla ---------------------------------------------- Special thanks for your cooperations _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Shuichiro Hanabusa (hanabusa(a)bnn-net.or.jp) Producer/ Special Programs NHK Enterprises 21 Inc. Location: Tokyo/ Japan _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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Re: Banking Secrecy and Nazi Gold
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > I try to deconstruct events, to determine what the real issues are. > > Take the case of the ongoing flap over Switzerland and claims that Swiss > banks hid gold, jewels, and other forms of money for high-ranking Nazis. > Adding to the flap--actually, making it a newsworthy event--is the > allegation, probably true, that some of the gold was taken from Jews and > others sent to extermination camps. When I caught this on the news I immediately shifted my attention to viewing the announcement from the perspective of the people involved not really giving a rat's ass about the Jews. What was left of the announcement once the banner of "mom's apple pie and freedom and justice for all" was removed was a shallow justification of a mugging technique I call "extortion by guilt." > the notion that "Switzerland must do something!" is pernicious and > inimical to banking secrecy and basic privacy issues. A drumbeat is > building which will serve to undermine banking secrecy around the world. > I suspect the U.S. pressure on Swiss banks has a political dimension > related to forcing a New World Order on international banking. > The clamor to break banking secrecy and > "force" the banks to disclose all records is part of a larger political > game. It's a muscle job designed to weaken the mark for the next level of extortion. Today the Swiss are guilty of collusion in the holocaust and tomorrow they will be guilty of collusion with drug dealers and pornographers. Only next time the Swiss will fold their hand behind closed doors in order to save themselves the global embarassment that has so sleazily been heaped on them. {Somewhere deep in the bowels of D.C. there is someone working late into the night in an attempt to link the holocaust to cryptography. Headline: DEATH CAMP TATTOOS PROVEN TO BE EARLY FORM OF 128 BIT ENCRYPTION } What I find frightening is a sudden rise of obvious power plays by government without bothering any longer with the formality of engaging in a lengthy campaign to create a threat to the citizens in the minds of the public. It's no wonder that the list conspiracy theorists have been quiet as of late. Once the power mongers are kicking in your door, then it's rather late to wonder if they are tapping your phone as well. How long can it be before the government no longer feels the need to inform us about the details of who they are saving us from, and why? I am worried about falling asleep tonight. I fear that I will go to sleep in my bed and wake up in a prison cell, with a jackbooted guard informing me, "It's OK. You're safe now." (.)(.)

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Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:21 5/07/97 -0400, Jeff Barber wrote: >The NRA knows this. They just don't trust the Supremes to agree >with their conclusion. Understandably so, given the court's record-- >not to mention its usual reluctance to overturn precedents. > >This is a problem with constitutions or any other sort of written >documents. Pinheads can always say the document doesn't *really* mean >what it clearly says. There's obviously no way to fix that through >the document itself. > >(I'm sure Jim Bell will say he has a solution though. :-) As if on cue! If the NRA had any guts, they would announce that they have concluded after years of observation and study that there are enormous costs to having the RTKBA continue to be poorly respected, costs which translate into (at least) potentially hundreds or maybe even thousands of innocent deaths per year, not to mention the continuing degradation of respect for various other constitutional rights. It would then observe that if we come to the reasonably egalitarian conclusion that the life of a Supreme Court justice or Senator or Representative is no more valuable than the life of an ordinary citizen, the solution to the 2nd amendment problem is clear. (Some (many?) courts seem to recognize the "lesser evil" defense, the idea that if a person has to choose between tolerating a greater evil or committing a crime ("lesser evil") to prevent it, he is entitled to do the latter. I'm not suggesting that they would view this philosophy as applicable in this particular case; merely that it is appropriate to do so.) The NRA is a fairly large organization. At any one time, there are probably over a hundred members with terminal illnesses, or others who would be willing to give their lives in the performance of a task to punish somebody for violating citizens' rights by official actions. A public announcement by the NRA that they will gladly pay upwards of a million dollars in "life insurance benefits" to to the heirs of any member who dies in this type of supreme service (or a million dollars in legal defense, etc) would put the "fear of God" into the thugs. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: My editorial in Oregonian newspaper published today.
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 17:20 5/07/97 -0700, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >JB's editorial is so mild-mannered I can barely resist comment. >this from the JB we all know and love? this is so bland as to >be almost PC, and frankly I agreed with every statement in >it, virtually. how did he manage to avoid the label "assassination >politics"? in fact how does he avoid the label "assassination" >entirely? Hey, doofus, the article was 840 words long, 40 words longer than the length recommended by the newspaper. It ALSO avoids any mention of cryptography, or digital cash, both of which would have not only just confused the average newspaper reader, but would have ballooned the article far past the length that the newspaper could reasonably consider publishing. >I think the main flimflammery in the essay is the concept of >"criminal". JB always advocated in the past that merely being >a bureacrat was virtually criminal, and that people would donate >money toward their demise. Repeat same point above about length and detail. >note to everyone: jim bell's editorial has virtually no relation >to his past essays. I propose that someone send that newspaper >his AP article. They certainly had access to it. The guy I talked to at the newspaper claimed he had read it. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Interactive Week exclusive - Clinton Admin. to announce new Crypto regs. this PM
by Will Rodger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Something you might find interesting.... By Will Rodger Washington Bureau Cheif Inter@ctive Week The US government will announce later today that will soon lift controls on technology crucial to doing business over the Internet, White House advisor Ira Magaziner said yesterday evening. Under plans expected to be outlined at a noontime press briefing today, the federal government will require that producers of specialized, narrowly focused data scrambling products submit only to one-time government approval before they sell powerful encryption products abroad. Current policy requires case-by-case approval in most instances. "Basically it will say that for basic financial and electronic applications there will be no export restrictions and no requirement for key recovery," Magaziner said. US Undersecretary of Commerce William Reinsch is expected to give details of the plan. Reinsch could not be reached for comment. Computer industry executives and public interest groups said the new arrangement, though far short of deregulating all encryption, was a step in the right direction. "This is evidence that the administration acknowledges that manufacturers of foreign encryption products do exist," said Peter Harter, public policy counsel at Netscape Communications Corp. "Their policy has put American industry in the back seat and now were trying to catch up." David Banisar, policy analyst at the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Center, called the move a "small step forward." Nonetheless, "it still doesnt reach the needs for secure e-mail or other purposes," he said. Computer software and hardware eligible for decontrol under the proposed regulations must fit several criteria, said Kawika Daguio, a public affairs specialist with the American Bankers Association who helped hammer out an agreement for the new regulations. .Though products designed for use by the general public may be unlimited in the strength of the encryption techniques they employ, they must also be strictly limited in use, he said. Software written for home banking, for instance, must be usable only for bank transactions and not easily modified for general use. Most programs handed out by banks for PC banking at home fit that criteria, he said. Programs that use the industry SET standard for credit card purchases over the Internet should easily meet Commerce Department criteria, too, since the SET standard encrypts only those data essential to making online purchases; the limited uses of the standard render it all but useless for general use. Visa, MasterCard and American Express developed the standard. "Id expect programs written with SET to get very rapid approval - within weeks," Daguio said. In addition, US companies will have leeway to export any kind of encryption to any bank as long as that encryption is used only for legitimate, internal bank functions. Products designed for merchant-to-merchant transactions without a bank in between would still be subject to stricter controls, including use of weak software routines that make decoding by law enforcement easy, or deposit of decoding keys with law enforcement bodies prior to export. Commerce Department regulations will spell out details this month or next, Daguio said. Though more sweeping in nature than past government regulations, the US banking industry has long enjoyed more freedom to use powerful encryption technologies abroad than other industries. Successive administrations have granted banks that leeway since by definition they must have greater safeguards over employee behavior than all but a handful of industries. In addition, financial applications have long been easier to design for export since they typically require encryption of only a few standard data fields. If sufficiently limited in design, the reasoning goes, they pose no threat to law enforcement concerned about smugglers or terrorists who may want to evade detection by law enforcement. The government and the computer industry have for years been locked in disputes over the relative importance of encryption technologies and their potential for misuse. Since encryption encodes sensitive information like credit card numbers, voice traffic over public networks and anything else that can be converted into an electronic stream of ones and zeroes, proponents of electronic commerce have insisted the technology must be widely deployed to assure the security of computer networks worldwide. Absent US encryption exports, they claim, American companies will soon lose their leadership role in a technology crucial to the countrys competitiveness. Federal officials, on the other hand, have said export of the technology threatens global security, since terrorists and criminals in outlaw states like Libya and North Korea could easily use the technology to defeat wiretaps and data searches increasingly prized by law enforcement and national security agencies. In response, they demand that exports of powerful encryption include so-called key recovery - a method by which law enforcement can gain access to the encryption keys used to encode messages. Many public interest groups have condemned the plans, however, saying such a transfer of power to law enforcement threatens to usher in an era of ubiquitous and illegal eavesdropping. Several bills pending in Congress would do away with nearly all controls. Reinsch was expected to testify at congressional hearings on one of the bills this morning. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3HngkcByjT5n+LZAQHL+Af/WdDoOuORps0gkZQmI4B6mgY63HeTzKZH kW19knlqU6SMC/GSdFrZLiWZhkDec2/wLzq57wdzlPjdPd+5wCvTYWmJAX68Kf6b 9g6cm3AbhZSKmaOtUtwOmUwAtuS5DPaGiPejAc9716K0/U9+0YBNKMZ/qVYAhrLc yR4yxLqpXd68zhirYIxtjHcB1fDzRO6F91stxvvDsg2bg2pPvLidWOBoknMZmCQt ALV5Z1yuik6tNOIPx+4ty7kWMMIQ0E3DqVKPxVAbFchCTohcee55U6Pmg3pbYtVg rrhYr4W8s/juv/9JrVa99+usyt/ohe+N3HcYtJ5WVLF2ED3UT/YDBg== =Q3/z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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mailing list
by Rory Picard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IP: Crypto News Flash (fwd)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" > <froomkin(a)LAW.MIAMI.EDU> >Subject: IP: Crypto News Flash (fwd) >To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM > >Amazing if true. Part of my amazement is that Sen. Kerry, who I think of >as somewhat moderate if not somewhat liberal, would be a party to this. ... >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 12:51:01 -0400 >From: David Farber <farber(a)cis.upenn.edu> >Subject: IP: Crypto News Flash > > >CyberWire Dispatch // Copyright (c) 1997 // May 1997 > >Jacking in from the "Take My Crypto, Please" port: > >Washington, DC--A new anti-crypto bill now floating around Washington >would place restrictions on the import of strong crypto products into the >U.S. and possibly outlaw the use of non-government approved encryption >products. > >During a morning briefing at the Capitol, Sen. Bob Kerry >(D-Neb.), talking about his impending new crypto bill, which he will call >the "Secure Public Interest Act" said that the bill WILL include >IMPORT restrictions on crypto software. > >Incredible. We've heard rumblings the folks behind crypto strangling >efforts would jump to import controls on crypto software if key escrow >weren't widely adopted. > >Restricting imports, of course, is a kind of de facto domestic >restriction as well. It means that companies can't import strong >foreign made crypto products to use in their worldwide offices, forcing >them to use the govt. mandated weaker crypto products. > >Next step: outlawing some domestic crypto products. > >Kerry, when asked if there would be restrictions on private encryption, >said "I don't envision that at the outset, but it might end up in the bill." > >Meeks out... > > # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Encryption--RSA v. PGP
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.aol.com id LAA22230 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:02:39 -0500 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: "Kevin J. Connolly" <kconnolly(a)EVW.COM> Subject: Encryption--RSA v. PGP To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RSA Data Security, Inc. filed an action in the Superior Court of California, San Mateo County, against Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. PGP has been claiming that its license to distribute RSA-based encryption software is based on a chain running from Public Key Partners to Viacrypt, Inc. PGP acquired Viacrypt, Inc. in January 1996 and has been selling RSA-based encryption software for commercial use ever since. The complaint, filed by Tomlinson Zisko Morosoli & Maser, alleges that PGP's license is derived from a license to Lemcom, which in turn has been terminated. This might well mean the end of PGP. This would certainly be a bad outcome for security and freedom on the Internet. I will be following these developments and report to the list. It's ironic that RSA is doing this while complaining about PGP conduct as a freeloader. I doubt that public key encryption would be anywhere as notorious as it has become if it were not for Phil Zimmermannn's crusade; and I haven't noticed RSA offering to help with Phil's legal expenses. Kevin J. Connolly The opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author, not of Eaton & Van Winkle. This communication is not legal advice. If it were legal advice, it would be accompanied by an invoice. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM3HrGTQOqu5WyMfpAQFX7AP/T0R54+S05FqKJ+zZXVb1uCHMrPZmagEm aiW9Dfgwo/K3tXbkrbS0WEtCc8tZobXbL7fLOT82qzKvXehRsERILV2keeaXlAe7 WN5c66SjaWe/xGfLQ/8UAnzaBl6l+olG8gN2zxGatbLDcKuakP7j0LGRuzhTXAaG BOYGDUbsSAY= =VCFW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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El Gamal
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk wrote: >PGP has been standardising on El Gamal which is not covered by RSA's >patents, for precisely the reason that RSA Inc has a bad record as a >litigious patent worker. El Gamal is a variant of Diffie-Hellman, >and the patents on Diffie-Hellman are set to expire RSN (later this >year, Sept?) How does El Gamal compare functionally and security-wise to RSA and who developed it? >I think that the initial PGP products are using RSA, however I >understood PGP is moving to El Gamal, where RSA is due to be >relegated to a `for backwards compatibility only' feature. Is El Gamal used in the source for PGP 3.0? Ciao Harka -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3JpGjltEBIEF0MBAQFDfQf8CawUGU1ynDlmcmsloy7zsh5oQUhcxPSv Luy17oVmbWVeCWpCbqqiWFoRh1+QzBBc8Yfbb2/2LOw1KFyIq5lQ8Ly64JPuVMgV HUocUDnPE7Q18eVVXOfNyG6vg/s0PBRqREVrx1QWn37idPduMTg0TE/IHZqFVrso 3XdVroh41aX7qVnan2+nRnVCbrV9xMvNteWOUl/nADLHCAkoMl/eCcQVY/XSmFjc SsUbNNgCDBJlZhAwAI/CBLM7CBVt4okZQkdKeLNWsrm1tG2yha7vl/2AI6k1Y70H 2g1zTrhqK7q/rqkNL6DKyam/NZ1FKXtO0BsTLsV6KqmI7SnGN4UZXw== =f4Qu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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We want to kiss you, NOW
by Shift Control 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A is for Aardvark B is for Bite C is for the Cure D is for Dribble E is for Eurovision F is for Frog G is for Glasgow kiss H is for Halitosis I is for Implants J is for Judas K is for Kiss 'n' tell L is for Lips M is for Mistletoe N is for Necking O is for Osculation P is for Pucker Q is for the Queen R is for Radio stations S is for Snog T is for Tongue U is for Ulcer V is for Vampires W is for Wet X is for X Z is for Zit Shift Control is for kissing, in all its colours Shift Control is ready and waiting with a purse for you Shift Control is at www.shiftcontrol.com __________________________________________ Shift Control is produced by the Guardian's New Media Lab with help from Boddingtons and Stella Artois Dry To unsubscribe from this mailing list send e-mail to shiftcontrol-request(a)nml.guardian.co.uk with the following text in the body of the mail message: unsubscribe

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Mega Death
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

White House press briefing May 8: Q Mike, Attorney General Reno today confirmed that the Justice Department is investigating the possibility of a high-level Israeli spy in the U.S. government. How is it going to impact relations with Israel at this point? MR. MCCURRY: No comment on that subject.

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[ADMIN] Stego in posts
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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