December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Crypto Rules
by silly＠ugcs.caltech.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> writes: >Federal Register: December 30, 1996: >Page 68572-68587 >Bureau of Export Administration > >Encryption Items Transferred From the U.S. Munitions List >to the Commerce Control List >... >Note to paragraphs (b)(2) and (b)(3) of this section: A printed >book or other printed material setting forth encryption source code >is not itself subject to the EAR (see Sec. 734.3(b)(2)). However, >notwithstanding Sec. 734.3(b)… [View More]

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Happy New Year!!!
by multi＠manybiz.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Please do not flame me, or respond with anger. If you want your name removed, send a *blank* email with the word REMOVE in the subject field and you will be permanantly removed from my mailing list. ***************************************************************************** Hello friend, as a fellow opportunity seeker, I recently came accross a brand new FREE Downline Club that I feel I must share with you. Its name is the "Auto-Compounder" and we have a state of the art management … [View More]

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New Web Site - Pass It On
by teralee＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a new web site for people going to college and needing financial aid. The site has downloadable software for electronic filing of the FAFSA for free. There is even software for increasing your financial aid eligibility. Check it out and pass this message on if you or someone you know is going to apply for financial aid and attend college in the United States. http://www.procps.com

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LAW_dno
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

12-29-96. "Cybercash at risk/Money laws lacking" The laws that govern digital money are unclear, partly because governments have failed to revise finance rules to include the online realm explicitly. However, the feds want to be able to trace funds in some way in order to guard against online money laundering. Although no one wants interference from the government, some clear statements from lawmakers might help. ----- LAW_dno (10K)

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[ADMINISTRATIVIUM] PGP
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The arrival of warm weather is heralded by the pig shit (or whatever kind of shit Intel swines have for brains) getting soft in Tim C. May's mini-cranium and the resulting green slime seeping through his cocaine- and syphilis- damaged nose and onto his keyboard. )_( [@ @] Tim C. May |/ \| \O/

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FCC Access Charge Proceeding
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:19:56 -0600 >Reply-To: telecomreg(a)relay.doit.wisc.edu >Originator: telecomreg(a)relay.doit.wisc.edu >Sender: telecomreg(a)relay.doit.wisc.edu >Precedence: bulk >From: NJF <NJF(a)commlaw.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <telecomreg(a)relay.doit.wisc.edu> >Subject: FCC Access Charge Proceeding >X-Comment: Requests (UNSUBSCRIBE/HELP) to: listserver(a)relay.doit.wisc.edu >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Status: U > > I … [View More]

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Random ITAR violations
by Blake Coverett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was looking through the current rfc index for something else a few minutes ago when I noticed rfc2040 from the end of October. Machine readable C code for several modes of RC5.

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Re: "Structuring" of Communications a Felony?
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At 10:57 PM -0800 12/28/96, Lucky Green wrote: > >>IMHO, this closes the door on the foreign contracting loophole used by C2 >>and others. It is now illegal for US persons to finance or contract out >>overseas crypto development, since doing so will obviously assist in >>proliferation. While not unexpected (I offered a bet on Cypherpunks that >>this would happen. Nobody took the bet.), this provision sets a dangerous >>precedence. The technical … [View More]

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VIB
by roland＠internetfleamarket.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fuck_God_Up_The_Ass, This is a VIB (Very Important Bookmark)! The Internet Fleamarket is available now to all Internet users locally, nationwide and worldwide. Sell what you don't need, offer your service and reach out to all. Or just visit us! http://internetfleamarket.com . Happy New Year!

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cypherpunks suggestion
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John -- Just got back after vacation... It is my understanding that cpunks list has been attacked by several clever tricks. I have a couple of suggestions on how to improve protection of this list: # Use the following recipe in .procmailrc for cypherpunks (or majordomo) # account: :0 * ^TOcypherpunks * !^X-Loop: * !^FROM_MAILER * !^FROM_DAEMON * !^X-Mailing-List: { # get rid of duplicates :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 65524 msgid.cache # add X-Loop:, etc :0 fhw | formail -… [View More]

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Do you need the MOST powerful way to advertise?
by starr＠lakes.ring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

cypherpunks(a)toad.com, Hi, saw you posting online and was wondering if you market products/services using your computer and would like to learn how to do so QUITE a bit better than what you are already doing?<g> If so, just say the words (words=MORE ORDERS) and I'll email a free, helpful file that could mean the online marketing difference between scintillating success and frustrating failure. OR! to get this profitable information free RIGHT NOW! INSTANTLY! send an email to star-… [View More]

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DCSB: Applying PGP To Digital Commerce
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Rodney Thayer Sable Technology Corporation "Applying PGP To Digital Commerce" Tuesday, January 7, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Rodney Thayer has 20 … [View More]years experience in the software development business. For the past 10 years he has been designing, implementing, deploying, and troubleshooting networking software. He currently is the Principal of a consulting firm based in Newton, Massachusetts where he is involved in the implementation of communications products for a variety of customers, including software vendors, major end-user organizations, and several governmental organizations both foreign and domestic. He also writes and lectures on the deployment, troubleshooting, and implementation of data communications networks. Mr. Thayer will talk about how PGP can be used in the business world today, for exchange of information, digitally identifying documents, and other commerce applications. In this presentation, we will discuss the application of PGP, including mechanics, the cryptographic and legal issues, and the infrastructure requirements for it's use. The state of the art in digital message encryption is now at the point where it has become practical to use encrypted and digitally signed email for digital commerce. Recently, one scheme, PGP, has emerged from the realm of the cyberpunk as a legitimate tool for business. Commercial products are now available that support PGP encryption in electronic mail and for documents and digital storage. PGP is no longer a cult tool for computer junkies and cyberpunks. It is a legitimate, sound cryptographic technology that can be used, today, for digital commerce. As an increasingly crypto-aware business community searches for solutions, the question of how to use message encryption tools such as PGP becomes germaine to the business community. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, January 7, 1997 from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $27.50. This price includes lunch, room rental, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men, and "appropriate business attire" for women. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, January 4, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston". If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Planned speakers for DCSB are: February David Kaufman 1996 in Review / Predictions for 1997 March TBA April Stewart Baker Encryption Policy and Digital Commerce We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, rah(a)shipwright.com . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu . Looking forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: SafeMail 1.0b6 e32 iQCVAwUBMsb+IvgyLN8bw6ZVAQEhRgP/b5Q5u83gIUAqJYPHp6J/BxKUrFjy/fYH J4EqvEvjKrdWE0jcwE34ISf+qUmBS+rZZRYVMsQ8jiVa/uF8TwNNTEEe5kMUPpne UtKvuJOEosFURwGfR4OLoYu1NsqPNuzAD40dwfQDQGVcmTqNlivhikZByE4MTNVz bUlII450N/8= =IS1x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox, e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/ [View Less]

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Re: New crypto regs outlaw financing non-US development
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Lucky Green writes: [snip] >Finally, to the big one: >>Sec. 736.2 General prohibitions and determination of applicability. >> >>* * * * * >> (7) General Prohibition Seven--Support of Certain Activities by >>U.S. persons--(i) Support of Proliferation Activities (U.S. Person >>Proliferation Activity). If you are a U.S. Person as that term is >>defined in Sec. 744.6(c) of the EAR, you may not engage in any >>activities prohibited by Sec. … [View More]744.6 (a) or (b) of the EAR which >>prohibits the performance, without a license from BXA, of certain >>financing, contracting, service, support, transportation, freight >>forwarding, or employment that you know will assist in certain >>proliferation activities described further in part 744 of the EAR. >>There are no License Exceptions to this General Prohibition Seven in >>part 740 of the EAR unless specifically authorized in that part. > >IMHO, this closes the door on the foreign contracting loophole used by C2 >and others. It is now illegal for US persons to finance or contract out >overseas crypto development, since doing so will obviously assist in >proliferation. While not unexpected (I offered a bet on Cypherpunks that >this would happen. Nobody took the bet.), this provision sets a dangerous >precedence. The technical assistance prohibitions of the past have been >transformed into general prohibitions against "financing, contracting, >service, support, transportation, freight forwarding, or employment". > >Again, IANAL. > If they have not already done so, those currently doing work for/with C2 can form an off-shore company to manage and develop the crypto work. This off-shore company can then sell shares (private/public) to citizens and companies (both foreign and domestic) and use the proceeds to develop the software. Some of the investors (e.g., C2) could be offered the opportunity to become distributors and support the products in their respective countries. I doubt the Executive order can be interpreted to mean U.S. citizens cannot purchase stocks of foreign companies engaged in crypto. There are many companies (e.g., NEC, Siemans, Philips, ect.) which engage in development of crypto equipment which would not be exportable if they were produced in the U.S. Can the gov't deny us the right to invest in these and other offshore companies? Since those working for C2 are already doing so offshore (e.g., Australia and England, I believe) these parties would only need to separately incorporate an entity to conduct that portion of their current business now under contract to C2. --Steve [View Less]

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New crypto regulations
by gt＠kdn0.attnet.or.jp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Concerning the new crypto regulations: " Note to paragraphs (b)(2) and (b)(3) of this section: A printed book or other printed material setting forth encryption source code is not itself subject to the EAR (see Sec. 734.3(b)(2)). However, notwithstanding Sec. 734.3(b)(2), encryption source code in electronic form or media (e.g., computer diskette or CD ROM) remains subject to the EAR (see Sec. 734.3(b)(3))." This is a big question for me. How does the fact that the same exact information, … [View More]

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Cryptanalysis Trainer
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've transcribed from PDF to ASCII the cryptanalysis program in Appendix F of the US Army's Field Manual FM 34-40-2, Basic Cryptanalysis, September, 1990. http://jya.com/appf.htm Manual quote: "This program gives the capability to encipher and decipher messages in monoalphabetic and polyalphabetic substitution systems, produce a variety of statistical data about the encrypted messages, and print the results or save them to disk. Because of its limited purpose, the program does not … [View More]

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Re: Internal Passports
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bob Hettinga wrote: >At 6:20 pm -0500 12/29/96, Timothy C. May wrote: >>What I think this means is a move toward a national ID card, replacing the >>confusing (to airlines, to government agents, etc.) mishmash of state >>driver's licenses, student ID cards, etc. > >"I've found that they issue a national ID card, it's time to leave..." > Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love", by Robert A. Heinlein "After Austria and Germany, Switzerland is my favourite … [View More]

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lambda 2.13 - Parental control abuses and Crypto leaks
by jt＠freenix.fr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

lambda 2.13 contents ... * Parental control abuses * Crypto Soap Opera : new leaked documents in France and at the OECD * Short-circuits : - U2's hacked: Big Lie in Cyberspace - Serbia's fight for democracy reach digital age - Radikal censorship (sorry for langage mistakes, the text has not been reviewed by an English third party) * * * * * Peacefire vs Cybersitter Parental control abuses * * * * * An insider quarrel between blocking-software … [View More]CyberSitter and one of the Web site blocked has emerged recently. A US youth association against Net censorship, Peacefire (wwww.peacefire.org) claimed on December 7 : "Sometime today or yesterday, CYBERsitter put www.Peacefire.org on its list of blocked sites. Next time users of the program update their "filter file", they will see our web page blocked along with Playboy.com, Penthouse.com etc. (not to mention NOW.org, Members.GNN.com, and C2.org) Apparently, the company president read our page about CYBERsitter at: http://www.peacefire.org/censorware/CYBERsitter.html and didn't like it." Solid Oak Software (www.solidoak.com) owner of the blocking program, claims Peacefire put online some advices or tips to abort CyberSitter efficiency for teenagers; claimed one time of "copyright infringements"; and decided to urge Peacefire's IAP to block its account. Remember that these softwares were designed to allow parents to control their child's access to the Internet. "Parental control", as it is called, was suppose to give ways for parents to self-censor Internet content. But when people trust the technology and give too much faith to black-listed sites maintained by other individuals' moral standards, parents don't really keep on their "parental control" anymore. They even fail to tackle their own responsability towards their childs. On December 27 the CPSR (www.cpsr.org) wrote a protest letter to Solid Oak. Abstracts: "Your own description of your product provides a fairly concise description of CYBERSitter's restrictions: "any site that focuses on topics such as adult or issues, illegal activities, bigotry, racism, drugs or pornography". Using this list", the CPSR went on, "any determined individuals with web browsers might easily build a profile of sites that are blocked by CYBERSitter. Several members of our group dowloaded your demo, and quickly verified that your software completely or partially blocks access to sites such as the National Organization of Women (http://www.now.org) and the Yahoo search engine (http://www.yahoo.com) Since CYBERSitter's behavior can be easily categorized, Peacefire's publishing of a list of blocked sites does not justify blocking Peacefire's site, or any similar unsavory activities. ... By blocking sites that focus on topics such as [sex] and drug use, SolidOak may filter potentially educational materials regarding AIDS and drug abuse prevention." As Haselton wrote later, "Most letters to the president, Brian Milburn, at bmilburn(a)solidoak.com, or to their support staff at support(a)solidoak.com, are now being bounced with the message, "this account has been configured to reject all messages on this topic..." i would guess that their mail software at those accounts is rejecting all messages with the word "Peacefire" in the subject line, so remember to leave it out if you decide to write to them about this. (And thanks for your support if you do!)" P.S.- The European Commission has submitted draft guidelines to member States concerning the Internet's content regulations. They were quite reserved about the real efficacy of content control specifications like PICS, but nonetheless approved it: http://www.echo.lu/best_use/best_use.html * * * * * French Crypto Sop Opera : other leaked documents * * * * * If you're an encryption addict and fluent in French, jump to the document published by Planete Internet magazine : http://www.planete-internet.com/crypto/decret It is a draft decree prepared by the SCSSI, the security agency, which draws a preliminary picture of future French "trusted third party" agencies (TTPs), or "key recovery agents". A brief summary of what the French electronic notary will look like: The government - The SCSSI * Will say which encryption product will be concerned; all crypto systems will be OK if a key recovery scheme is scheduled; (PGP and the like are not on the list of "approved" products); * Will decide which firm is OK to become a TTP; but no justification will be needed for negative requests; The TTP, "le notaire" * All commercial firms or entities (SA, SARL, consortiums...) will be concerned; * But all its members, CEOs or associates must be "French": like the majority of its finantial assets; * Will be submitted to "professionnal secret" and obliged to keep third party encryption keys away from illegal wiretapping activities; The (commercial) user * Will be obliged to use authorised encryption products; * Will engage itself to fully cooperate with the TTP; The (basic) user * Even if the sheme will not be mandatory, using encryption without the backing of a TTP will be considered illegal; * Huge finantial and logistical procedures will discourage NGO's, small companies and the citizen to protect legally its electronic communications. The new and fully complete policy is scheduled in France in the comming weeks. * * * * * PS - Leaked document from the OECD's crypto hearings Australians cryptographers at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/crypto/oecd_dr2.htm published the draft paper that were on the agenda of the Dec. 16-20 closed-door meeting in Paris, revealing the broad and detailed policy toward an international cooperation for "lawfull access" to encrypted communications. * * * Short-circuits * * * U2 hacked? Big Lie in Cyberspace --------------- You surely read numerous stories about the U2 rock band that were "robbed" in Cyberspace by hackers that traveled through cables of a digital camera that broadcasted on the Internet views of their Dublin studio. Hackers put 2 new songs online from a site in Hungary, the story went on. Strange hacking, hey??! The story, which broke in the London's Sunday Times on November 17 (follomed by a naive Le Monde in Paris) was just dope -- a fake, phoney and bull story. Read, for example, what a fan from the Nederland says -> www.universal.nl/users/mirrorbal/u2.htm Number 1 : he told the real story to the Times which didn't even publish a word of it. What's the story? A videotape with 45 sec abstracts from both songs were released by Island Records-Hungary in November (it was the scheduled date for U2's upcomming album, but now scheduled in March!). And a guy simply put a microphone besides his TV and put the digital stuff online. Where's the hack? The Hungarian explains also the story, but didn't erase the songs from his server: w3.datanet.hu/~karpati/ Serbia's fight for democracy reach digital age --------------- Read David S. Bennahum's last MEME bulletin about Serbia's democratric fight: http://www.reach.com/matrix/. Bennahum spent one week in Belgrade and met democrats willign to create cyber-rights organisations like the EPIC or the CDT. Follow their fight daily on the Internet : http://eurasianews.com/erc/serbopp1.htm Radikal censorship --------------- A magazine banned in Germany, the leftist Radikal, available online in the Nederlands, was the target of German policemen on Dec. 11. After failing to urge Nederlands authorities to block the Web site last September, German police decided to act as usually, with the help of their Dutch counterpart and raided a house in Vaals. It turns out that they acted to block Radikal at the source : its paper version. Read the news on: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/radikal http://www.xs4all.nl/~felipe/germany.html * * * * lambda 2.13 - www.freenix.fr/netizen * * * * Jerome Thorel =-= Journaliste / Reporter =-= Paris, France lambda bulletin =-= Planete Internet Editor [View Less]

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PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
by IQ Mailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*+*+ This message is provided under the strict C.A.R.E. Code of Ethics. (Conscientious Advertising through Responsible E-mail). You can view the code at: iq-internet.com/care.html PROTECT YOUR FAMILY My LIFECARD does exactly that. You or any member of your famil will have instant worldwide access to a wide range of potentially life saving medical and personal information in case of an emergency. SAFETY SECURITY … [View More]

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USAF Hack mirror
by skeeve＠skeeve.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Another hack mirror up.... http://www.skeeve.net/usaf/ so far I have: Central Intelligence Agency - http://www.skeeve.net/cia/ US Department of Justice - http://www.skeeve.net/doj/ Kreigman Furs - http://www.skeeve.net/kriegsman/ US Air Force - http://www.skeeve.net/usaf/ we these people never learn... put your webserver on CDrom today ;) anyone else know of any other mirrors... i heard www.nasa.gov recently got done.. anyone have a mirror i can add to the collection? -----------------… [View More]

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Re: Cryptanalysis Trainer
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:05 PM 12/29/96 -0500, John Young wrote: >We've transcribed from PDF to ASCII the cryptanalysis >program in Appendix F of the US Army's Field Manual >FM 34-40-2, Basic Cryptanalysis, September, 1990. > > http://jya.com/appf.htm Why does it not surprise me that the code is in BASIC... BTW, the link to the PDF does not work. Seems the CGI they use to feed the pdf files is broken. (Or someone paniced and pulled it in a manner that broke the CGI. Would not be the first … [View More]

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HOW TO HACK www.pgp.com -- stupid CGI script xploit
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Go to www.pgp.com Go To "Keyserver" Go To "Query" In the search window, type `whoami` (note the back quotes). Watch for result. How stupid. Seems to be a common problem of cgi scripts. like the one in norway... xaxaxa

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.… [View More]org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{"extropia"} = "<remail(a)miron.vip.best.com> cpunk pgp special"; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{'alpha'} = '<alias(a)alpha.c2.org> alpha pgp'; $remailer{'nymrod'} = '<nymrod(a)nym.jpunix.com> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"lead"} = "<mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"exon"} = "<remailer(a)remailer.nl.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"haystack"} = "<haystack(a)holy.cow.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"lucifer"} = "<lucifer(a)dhp.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"balls"} = "<remailer(a)huge.cajones.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"middle"} = "<middleman(a)jpunix.com> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"dustbin"} = "<dustman(a)athensnet.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek mix reord middle ?"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"death"} = "<x(a)deathsdoor.com> cpunk pgp hash latent post"; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix) (weasel squirrel) The alpha and nymrod nymservers are down due to abuse. However, you can use the nym or weasel (newnym style) nymservers. The cyber nymserver is quite reliable for outgoing mail (which is what's measured here), but is exhibiting serious reliability problems for incoming mail. The squirrel and winsock remailers accept PGP encrypted mail only. 403 Permission denied errors have been caused by a flaky disk on the Berkeley WWW server. This seems to be fixed now. The penet remailer is closed. Last update: Mon 30 Dec 96 6:48:57 PST remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- haystack haystack(a)holy.cow.net +#*#+#+ 1:44 99.99% weasel config(a)weasel.owl.de +++++++ 1:06:00 99.99% lucifer lucifer(a)dhp.com +++++++ 33:39 99.98% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com -++++++ 1:11:39 99.98% nym config(a)nym.alias.net *##*### :19 99.97% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net ------+ 1:37:49 99.97% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de ++++++ 1:06:32 99.96% middle middleman(a)jpunix.com ------ 2:20:53 99.86% dustbin dustman(a)athensnet.com _ .-*+* 17:45:40 99.70% balls remailer(a)huge.cajones.com **** +* 8:06 99.55% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net * **+* 29:35 99.50% exon remailer(a)remailer.nl.com *##** * 1:02 99.43% replay remailer(a)replay.com * -** + 1:13:13 98.96% extropia remail(a)miron.vip.best.com --- - 7:19:53 95.17% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net .-.- - 10:43:57 91.13% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien [View Less]

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New crypto regs online
by Dave Banisar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hola, The new regs for crypto exports are available at: http://www.epic.org/crypto/export_controls/interim_regs_12_96.html Dave ========================================================================= David Banisar (Banisar(a)epic.org) * 202-544-9240 (tel) Electronic Privacy Information Center * 202-547-5482 (fax) 666 Pennsylvania Ave, SE, Suite 301 * HTTP://www.epic.org Washington, DC 20003 PGP Key: http://www.epic.org/staff/banisar/key.html =========================================================================

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Just another government fuckover: New crypto regulations
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- books are and have been protected prior to the US Constitution. one can presume books with crypto source code would be protected accordingly; one Federal judge (Patel in SF) has ruled source code is protected under freedom of speech and therefore can be published; yet another judge in the Washington area has ruled it is not. There is no question the feds will appeal Patel's ruling in the Ninth Circuit (known to be pro … [View More]rights in general, but difficult to predict). eventually it will go to the US Supreme Court. my personal opinion is the Supreme Court will rule against it using a rationale that the actual source code sections of a book can be classified as can any other intellectual property under the National Security Act. Secondly, they will not consider that form of speech an inalienable right. I had my rounds with the bastards years ago, no fucking humour whatsoever, and prone to use the IRS to enforce what the courts could not afford to enforce due to the requirements of disclosure in the courtroom at the time (which have since been plugged); and if that does not work, set you up for financial fraud, fraud by wire, or dope. Today dope is the perfect charge; it has been whipped into a frenzy by the feds and their CIA infiltrated media. let me assure any doubters the real extent of terror which the spooks can apply. the US Government has not been a legal government for years; it is a private club which can be bought, and its services sold to the highest bidder. It is a collection of whores who are part of a cabal of the very rich and powerful; it is totally unaccountable to the public it represents. Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the bombing of their own federal building in Oklahoma City in order to scare Joe Couch Potato into giving up personal freedoms for security are perfect examples of a government drunk on it owns powers. Just like Oswald, they have a perfect patsy with the defendants in OKC. P.J. O'Rourke states it correctly: "And the Clinton administration launched an attack on people in Texas because those people were religious nuts with guns. Hell, this country was founded by religious nuts with guns." O'Rourke also said: "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenaged boys" and there is no better example than the cocaine stoned, reckless mentality of Bill Clinton. an important fact to keep in mind in US judicial review: few of the judges can be relied on 1) to resist pressure from the Feds and 2) to take the rights of the people seriously and as 'inalienable rights.' this may sound pessimistic and cynical, but the courts have been sliding, in some cases rather quickly, to a position that echoes the UN Bill of Rights: the UN's "International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights" (ICCR): Article 18 states that "everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion" but specifies that "freedom to manifest one's religions or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and necessary..." in other words, I do not think we will see the feds permit the use of books to export cryptography. this almost becomes irrelevant outside the academic world in the provisions of the regs which effectively block hardware or software products and in effect seem to cut off the loophole of US companies funding overseas operations and importing the results, etc. the new regs basically ban it all ways. and the new regs are not the supposedly improved and friendly versions promised --they are draconian. books are an intellectual 'solution' to the problem. the real problem is the hardware. in order to negate governments and their virtually stated intentions of blocking our inalienable freedoms, particularly freedom of speach, we must be able to distribute universal crypto worldwide, and be able to improve it as the shadow governments of the various spook shows improve their ability to break our code. this last round on the ITARs blew out distribution. asking visitors to your web sites if they are U.S. citizens is not going to be sufficient for Bubba's goons: Janet Reno and Jamie Gorlich. the only real solution is guerilla warfare; anonymous distribution; overseas' establishment of clearing houses for updates and source code. freedom of information is just that simple; there are no compromises. Patrick Henry said: "Give me Liberty or Give me Death." publish, publish, and civil disobedience. Patrick Henry used handbills. knowledge is knowledge --get it in the public domain, and in the public's hands even if you must go door to door like a fuller brush salesman... but your product is free and it is for their freedom. don't waste your time getting out the vote; get out there and fight. contribute. if you do not have the balls to do it, you are not for freedom. the only natural cure for corrupt government is bright sunshine. and a rope. == Tyranny Insurance by Colt Manufacturing Co. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Encrypted with 2.6.3i. Requires 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBMsd+nb04kQrCC2kFAQGxVQP5AUM06j8anB3MLUzMUe8WjOqhVwPjSd7d RhaGyrRwAdSpU1CPSYNX9+zsTnaJtgsN0rQYLrbKQD1eKDPKAQlnz5vJ6SAVhRwi nNF2e4Pj/wD7SVBwHFmjsaOpWmNx9+ON++/EZNbs3c3nH/2n7tiC7eJJcte+apNE G3lwdSSxXhU= =MD+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [View Less]

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Re: Export proposal
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:24 PM 12/29/96 -0800, sameer wrote: [...] > Stewart Baker has been quoted as saying that banned "easily >scanned printed texts" isn't far away. (Rebecca Vesely's Wired News >article) The language of the new regulations supports this view. It seems to me that the USG wanted to ban easily scannable text, but wasn't sure how to best define "easily scannable". This is a property that is difficult to define. Once they come up with a workable definition, expect the regs to be amended.… [View More]

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Re: "Structuring" of Communications a Felony?
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:11 PM 12/29/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: > >For example, while citizen-units in the United States are free to move to >new locales without permission and without registration, unlike in some >countries, the tax collector expects a valid home (or at least mailing) >address on tax returns. There is no requirement that you list a home address just as there is no requirement that you have a home. A mailing address anywhere on earth is sufficient for tax purposes. The … [View More]

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Re: "Structuring" of Communications a Felony?
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:08 PM 12/29/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >As to the "anonymous speech" rulings, I mainly know of the 1956 Georgia >case, in which the Supremes struck down a law requiring that leaflets >handed out have a name attached. I don't know of more recent rulings, >especially ones related to the Internet. This was upheld by another recent case involving an anonymous pamphlet from an Ohio woman. >If origin-labelling is unconstitutional, as Steve claims, then on what >basis … [View More]

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IDEA ecryption algorithm in 8 bits ?
by Pavel Korensky 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, I hope that this mail will find his way to the mailling list. I have one question. For one small embedded application, I need some encryption algorithm which can be easily implemented in 8 bit microcontroller with 38 bytes of RAM and 1KB of ROM. I tried to modify the IDEA algorithm to 8 bit operations - all multiplications modulo 257, subkey length 52 bytes, block size 4 bytes. Simply, all operations are converted from 16/32 bits to 8/16 bits. Because I am no professional … [View More]

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Re: ssn hack
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-12-29 08:35:47 EST, jazzmin(a)ou.edu (Jazzmin Belle Sommers) writes: << She bought it! I got asked where I belonged to, so I said Germany (not actually a lie, it's my heritage). Next time I think I'll say Belgium. What's that itty bitty country between France and Spain? Angorra? Yeah. That's it.>> That sure isn't a hack.... maybe Im not seeing the advantages of it.. as compared to just saying 'I dont give it out..etc..' << What, you really … [View More]

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Re: ssn hack
by Lurker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:10 PM 12/28/96 -0600, Jazzmin Belle Sommers wrote: > >I still find that the best line of defense regarding privacy is a complete >second identity. Does anyone know how to apply for proper papers (taxpayer >ID#, checking account, picture ID of some sort) for a second identity? As >far as I know, it is not illegal to have one, as long as it is not used for >fraud. I'm an artist, yeah, that's it. > I'm not sure that you can go through such a procedure to attain a … [View More]

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Re: Legality of ...? More Dale
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, Dale Thorn wrote: >When my dad ran a bread truck in the 1950's, a mafia character who >had a bad day paid him $20 or so in pennies, and my dad said he took >it with little argument. Dale, you must serve some purpose in my life. Perhaps it is to teach me humility. I strive to understand your purpose.

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JOIN NOW!
by swedoc＠swedoc.se 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If you wish to be removed from our future mailings, please reply with the subject "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from future mailings. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// DEAR SIRS, NEW WEBSITE TO BE LAUNCHED - THE SWEDOC GROUP - GLOBAL MARKET-PLACE (24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK!) * PROPERTIES * PROJECTS * INVESTMENT … [View More]

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[Quasi-RFC] RNG_DEVICE Standard
by Robert Rothenburg 'Walking-Owl' 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The URL below has a proposal/ideas for an RNG_DEVICE standard: http://www.asb.com/usr/wlkngowl/rng_std.htm Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. (This isn't an official RFC.) Please feel free to forward this message to interested parties. Rob ----- "The word to kill ain't dirty | Robert Rothenburg (WlkngOwl(a)unix.asb.com) I used it in the last line | http://www.asb.com/usr/wlkngowl/ but use a short word for lovin' | Se habla PGP: Reply with the subject and … [View More]

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Re: Export proposal
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:56 AM 12/30/96 -0800, Dale Thorn wrote: >What about a fax? That has to make things more complicated, yes? A fax is transmission in electronic form. Clearly banned under the regulations. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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Tired of VuliSpams?
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's simple, if you are tired of this turd's posts, just send a message to PSI. here's all the relevant info. Don't bother sending complaints to postmaster(a)dm.com, vulis owns that domain so he is the postmaster of it. However, to quote the last PSI guy I spoke to: "If he continues, it becomes contractual" In other words, Vulis gets to find himself without a provider. Thanks. sundernet1# whois dm.com D&M Consulting Services (DM-DOM) 67-67 Burns Street Forest Hills, NY 11375 … [View More]

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Re: New crypto regulations
by Hal Finney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Mike McNally <m5(a)tivoli.com> > solman(a)MIT.EDU wrote: > > The government's claim is that in the interests of national security, > > export of cryptography must be prevented. By limiting the policy's > > applicability to media which are in, or can easily be converted to, > > electronic form ... > > Does anybody seriously believe that nbody writing these policies has > an understanding of OCR software? An on-line form of code printed > in a … [View More]

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Re: With my deepest regards....
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-12-29 16:00:50 EST, dthorn(a)gte.net (Dale Thorn) writes: << Adam Breaux wrote: > I am withdrawing from this list. Not because of the volume of > email...that I can deal with...but what I cannot deal with is the > volume of garbage and egotistical ranting that seems so prevalent in > what should for all sakes and purposes be a discussion of cyphering > and security. Apparently the name of this list is designed to > mislead...because of all … [View More]

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[STEGO] BBN
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy May has been fired from Intel for stealing office supplies. ( )( )________ Timothy May /00 \ _ O_\\--mm---mm /_______)

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Re: New crypto regulations
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:57 AM 12/30/96 -0800, Hal Finney wrote: >The regs, as Lucky pointed out, do hint at restrictions on OCR fonts in >the future. However this is obviously doomed since as OCR technology >advances the distinction between OCR and non-OCR fonts will vanish. >I imagine that a special purpose character recognition engine could be >built to work on any known, monospaced font, as is typically used for >source code. It seems to me that the authors of the regulations have come to … [View More]

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(Fwd) Re: Mr. May's Posts. Other Things.
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is the message I got in response to my post regarding Mr. May's offensive, racist, and bigoted post about ebonics. I have made overtures towards peace and tried to explain that I thought that the Doctor's verbal slapping was not as bad as it seemed, maybe even he deserved it!. He refuses to answer. He's just a pussy, I guess. Like's to make terroristic threats. To Nam vets, yet. Ballsy, Tim! Maybe the Doctor is not to far from wrong. I would rather have discussed this with you in … [View More]private e-mail, or over a few beers, but you refuse to answer my e-mail. Received: from you.got.net (root(a)scir-gotnet.znet.net [207.167.86.126]) by adnetsol.adnetsol.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA29906 for <rwright(a)adnetsol.com>; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:25:14 -0800 Received: from [207.167.93.63] (tcmay.got.net [207.167.93.63]) by you.got.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA13732 for <rwright(a)adnetsol.com>; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:17:45 -0800 X-Real-To: <rwright(a)adnetsol.com> X-Sender: tcmay(a)mail.got.net Message-Id: <v03007800aeea52e5d282(a)[207.167.93.63]> In-Reply-To: <199612230801.AAA24862(a)adnetsol.adnetsol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:32:00 -0800 To: "Ross Wright" <rwright(a)adnetsol.com> From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> Subject: Re: Mr. May's Posts. Other Things. X-PMFLAGS: 35127424 0 ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:32:00 -0800 To: "Ross Wright" <rwright(a)adnetsol.com> From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> Subject: Re: Mr. May's Posts. Other Things. At 12:09 AM -0800 12/23/96, Ross Wright wrote: >hard on him. This latest rant of his has made me reconsider your >rough treatment of Mr. May. I kinda think he deserves a slapping >right now. Go ahead with your "slapping." Of course, I'd treat a "slapping" as an assault. I'd love to put a clip of hollowpoints through your chest. Your place or mine? Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------: ---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." [View Less]

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So secure no technology avail in the world capable of breaking it
by ! Drive 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Risks 18.70... Date: 20 Dec 96 15:13:17 EST From: Andrew Weir <100637.616(a)CompuServe.COM> Subject: ATM gangsters Much British media panic has been devoted to the recent conviction of an "ATM gang" of high ambition. A collection of high-grade villains with impeccable pedigrees in robbery, gangsterism and drugs dealing over 30 years compelled a software expert who was in prison for attacking his wife and child to help them in their enterprise. The man revealed his role to a … [View More]

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:15 PM 12/29/1996, Timothy C. May wrote: >This fascist move by the U.S. government is a huge threat to our liberty. >It may be time to simply give up on communicating with these assholes and >give them the treatment they have earned. > ... >And this a very big one indeed. Not only does it probably put organizations >like C2 out of business, at least in terms of supporting the development of >things like the South African and British Web products, but it also may >… [View More]mean the *Cypherpunks list itself*, and some of its members, are ipso facto >in violation of this "giving comfort to the enemy" (to paraphrase) language! > ... >This very list advocates violation of the ITARs in various ways (I speak of >"the list" as a person in the sense of the consensus of the list...there >may not be unanimity, but the consensus of the vocal members of the list is >obvious). > > >It may be time for us to go underground. It may be time to take much, much, >much, much more extreme steps. This fascism is unacceptable. While Tim May has had many many great ideas, this is not one of them. To paraphrase Joseph Stalin: Tim, how many divisions do you have? The cypherpunks have virtually no force at all. If the battle is moved to that arena, the cypherpunks (and everybody else) lose big time. If the cypherpunks manage to pull off some sort of "extreme step", those who aren't shot while resisting arrest will go to prison. Worst of all, most people will applaud the action. "Extreme steps" legitimize the radical proposals of the Clipper crowd. While I wouldn't go so far as to say "I feel your pain", I am sympathetic with the frustration you must feel when your own government is the greatest threat to all that it is right and decent. But, "extreme steps" are the wrong approach and play right into the hands of the defense establishment. It saves them the trouble of implementing a "strategy of tension." The right approach is to continually reiterate that the cypherpunks are mainstream and fairly conservative. Many of us like the "bad boy" image, but most of what has been proposed is very solidly rooted in American traditions. If the ITAR regulations can be amended to make discussions on this list a "conspiracy", then they are very likely unconstitutional. Article I, Section I, "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the United States..." Pretty unambiguous. We should not underestimate the broad public support for private communications which exists in the United States. Even people who are unfamiliar with the issue are shocked when they learn that the U.S. government is trying to gain access to all communications. The only people who want GAK are in the government. There is no constituency in the population which wants it, and quite a few that do not. The more publicly the issue is discussed and the more actively we scrutinize the lies and deceptions of the U.S. government, the more successful we will be. The GAK crowd have not been honest or forthright in their public statements on their plans. We must reiterate this again and again and again. If they cannot be honest about their proposed policy, how can we trust them to hold the keys? Obviously, we cannot. This will be obvious to most Americans, and even some reporters. Red Rackham [View Less]

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Crypto reg clarification from Commerce Department
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just got of the phone with Bruce Kutz, Export Policy Analyst, Office of Strategic Trade and Foreign Policy Controls. (202) 482-0092. He seems to be the contact person for the new regs. I pointed Mr. Kutz to the section that alarmed me: Sec. 736.2 General prohibitions and determination of applicability. * * * * * (7) General Prohibition Seven--Support of Certain Activities by U.S. persons--(i) Support of Proliferation Activities (U.S. Person … [View More]Proliferation Activity). If you are a U.S. Person as that term is defined in Sec. 744.6(c) of the EAR, you may not engage in any activities prohibited by Sec. 744.6 (a) or (b) of the EAR which prohibits the performance, without a license from BXA, of certain financing, contracting, service, support, transportation, freight forwarding, or employment that you know will assist in certain proliferation activities described further in part 744 of the EAR. There are no License Exceptions to this General Prohibition Seven in part 740 of the EAR unless specifically authorized in that part. Mr. Kutz seemed surprised. Apparently he had not been aware that this section was included in the new crypto regs. He then assured me that 1. Proliferation in the context of this paragraph applies only to proliferation of a) nuclear (bomb) technology b) missile technology He read to me EAR Sec. 744.6 (a) or (b), which are referred to in the paragraph in question. Sec. 744.6 (a) or (b) seems to support this view. However, he did not explain to me why the paragraph was included in the crypto export regulations when it only applies to nukes and missiles. 2. The Department of Commerce has no intention of banning the financing and contracting of non-US crypto development. 3. Technical assistance to non-US parties requires a license. Mr. Kutz encouraged me to make use of the public comment period and ask Commerce to clarify the section. Public comments will be accepted until February 13, 1997. [Public comment is requested only after the new regs took effect...] I received the impression that Mr. Kutz genuinely believes that the section in question does not apply to crypto. If I was concerned about potentially violating the regulations, I would try to get a written statement from Commerce that Mr. Kutz's view is indeed correct. As always, IANAL. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm [View Less]

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Re: New crypto regulations (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:57:28 -0800 > From: Mark Johnson <mark(a)hercules.reno.nv.us> > > To hell with it, lets just send it over a modem and claim its Analog not > electronic transfer. If MA-Bell (or sibling) wants to change it from > Analog to Digital for overseas transfer then THEY can go after MA-Bell. > Then if we can't do that then we would not even be allowed to discuss > cryptography (code) verbally as it all gets … [View More]transformed to electrons now > anyway. The distinction between analog and digital is a technicality and not a distinction I want my civil liberties hanging from. An analog signal is just a digital signal with a word length greater than the resolution of the machine. Also one can claim that because electricity is carried by distinct charges it is digital. Counter this is that the charges themselves can take on multiplicity of ranges. A digital signal is just a analog signal of on and off, direct current one might say that is simply turned on and off. Ad nausium... > What is the difference between me reading(using sound waves) code line > by line to John Doe versus having my computer(using sound waves) > communicating to John Does's computer,Tape Recorder(high quality), or > his well atuned ear which understands MODEMese (or was that MODEMonics)? Realisticaly nothing. The real discussion going on here, broken into a multiplicity of special interests pov's, is whether we as individuals have a right to communicate to each other and exactly under what conditions that communication can be monitored, manipulated, prohibited, etc. Balancing the theory behind democracy and multiplicity of views versus the prohibition of various types of acts, distinct and class(ical), which pose threats to individuals, groups, and potentialy national interests is the point... If looked at rationaly, saying I can tell you something if written in a particular code, alphabetic and artistic issues at point, on a certain type of material is ok while if I transfer the identical information using some other code and media it is not is looney tunes. The 'control' types would like us to believe that media is the real issue here, not what is actualy being said. A point easily confused by somebody who doesn't know what the word(s) mean. A very popular view, and not one I consider 'bad', is that we should err on the side of safety. This means that we don't change the status quo too fast. Not necessarily because we like the results being measured in human misery but because while we might relieve their misery in the short term we might 'unbalance' the political situation. History is rife with the results of such periods. However, I balance this with the realisation that once it is clear something needs to be done it is better to go ahead and commit to the results even though we recognise a priori that some results may not necessarily be to our liking. We just have to deal with them when we figure out which ones they are. The trick between these two is to find a 'litmus test' which will provide an observer some sort of measure of their position between the two (or more) positions. Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com [View Less]

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Re: Crypto reg clarification from Commerce Department
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote: >I just got of the phone with Bruce Kutz, Export Policy Analyst, Office of >Strategic Trade and Foreign Policy Controls. (202) 482-0092. He seems to be >the contact person for the new regs. Well done, Lucky. This is what's needed to kick off a lot of commentary during the next 45-days. Backed by research, to be sure. The outpouring of such commentary on the full EAR from May 1995 to March 1996 shaped the final document, and that process is an excellent case study … [View More]for how to affect the final form of the latest crypto regs. It's worth perusing the full EAR in the Federal Register: March 25, 1996 (Volume 61, Number 58), Pages 12713 et seq. for 325 pages (well over a 2.5MB -- it's also on our site, see URL below). Here's the portion of the EAR that Lucky and Kutz discussed: [Page 12805] Sec. 744.6 Restrictions on certain activities of U.S. persons. (a) General prohibitions--(1) Activities related to exports. (i) No U.S. person as defined in paragraph (c) of this section may, without a license from BXA, export, reexport, or transfer to or in any country other country, any item where that person knows that such item: (A) Will be used in the design, development, production, or use of nuclear explosive devices in or by a country listed in Country Group D:2 (see Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR). (B) Will be used in the design, development, production, or use of missiles in or by a country listed in Country Group D:4 (see Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR); or (C) Will be used in the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons in or by a country listed in Country Group D:3 (see Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR). (ii) No U.S. person shall, without a license from BXA, knowingly support an export, reexport, or transfer that does not have a license as required by this section. Support means any action, including financing, transportation, and freight forwarding, by which a person facilitates an export, reexport, or transfer without being the actual exporter or reexporter. (2) Other activities unrelated to exports. No U.S. person shall, without a license from BXA: (i) Perform any contract, service, or employment that the U.S. person knows will directly assist in the design, development, production, or use of missiles in or by a country listed in Country Group D:4 (see Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR); or (ii) Perform any contract, service, or employment that the U.S. person knows directly will directly assist in the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons in or by a country listed in Country Group D:3 (see Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR). (3) Whole plant requirement. No U.S. person shall, without a license from BXA, participate in the design, construction, export, or reexport of a whole plant to make chemical weapons precursors identified in ECCN 1C350, in countries other than those listed in Country Group A:3 (Australia Group) (See Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR). (b) Additional prohibitions on U.S. persons informed by BXA. BXA may inform U.S. persons, either individually or through amendment to the EAR, that a license is required because an activity could involve the types of participation and support described in paragraph (a) of this section anywhere in the world. Specific notice is to be given only by, or at the direction of, the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Export Administration. When such notice is provided orally, it will be followed by a written notice within two working days signed by the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Export Administration. However, the absence of any such notification does not excuse the exporter from compliance with the license requirements of paragraph (a) of this section. (c) Definition of U.S. person. For purposes of this section, the term U.S. person includes: (1) Any individual who is a citizen of the United States, a permanent resident alien of the United States, or a protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3); (2) Any juridical person organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States, including foreign branches; and (3) Any person in the United States. (d) Exceptions. No License Exceptions apply to the prohibitions described in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section. (e) License review standards. Applications to engage in activities otherwise prohibited by this section will be denied if the activities would make a material contribution to the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons, or of missiles. ----- The EAR covers all kinds of exports, so encryption and cryptography provisions are found by searching. The Federal Register published it in seven 50 page chunks, and is available at: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html Enter the search term: "Page 12713" (with quotes; repeat six times in sequence). We've combined the seven parts for searching: http://jya.com/ear032596.txt (2,570K) [View Less]

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what is a law if it cant be enforced?
by mrwilhe＠odin.cmp.ilstu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

can our gov possibly enforce this crypto law? --esp over the net? I think what happend is the dod released the net (arpanet/Internet) to the people without looking at the implications that could arise. The people now control the net and not the gov--and they don't like it! anyway our government is ruled by the people for the people--so we should not have any kind of special laws--ones that only apply to the net and not the rest of the world, after all we have a thing called free speech! fsh

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CAVE
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CAVE is available at URL: http://www.replay.com/mirror/cave/ Enjoy, -AJ-

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RE: (Fwd) Re: Mr. May's Posts. Other Things.
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Ross Wright This is the message I got in response to my post regarding Mr. May's offensive, racist, and bigoted post about ebonics. I have made overtures towards peace and tried to explain that I thought that the Doctor's verbal slapping was not as bad as it seemed, maybe even he deserved it!. He refuses to answer. He's just a pussy, I guess. Like's to make terroristic threats. To Nam vets, yet. Ballsy, Tim! ....................................................... You have to … [View More]

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None
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:41 AM 12/25/1996, Anonymous wrote that Noam Chomsky said: >More than ever, libertarian socialist ideas are relevant, and the >population is very much open to them. Despite a huge mass of corporate >propaganda, outside of educated circles, people still maintain pretty much >their traditional attitudes. In the US, for example, more than 80% of the >population regard the economic system as inherently unfair and the >political system as a fraud, which serves the special … [View More]

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US AIRFORCE SITE HACKED
by BJORN2LUZE＠prodigy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It is true, so many government sites have been hacked! The FBI home page was replaced with SATANIC stuff. A picture of the upside down cross as a background and various other changes regarding SATAN. i think it's funny, but hey it's our own goverment. I wonder how often they check their sites. BTW, my friends site - http://pages.prodigy.com/VT/hackersguide has a link to the FBI's MOST WANTED LIST. See if you are there!

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