December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by PS 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The FAGGOT list
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I never thought the day would come when I would actually think that, however > much I disagree with them, the pro-censorship people may have some small > arguments on their side - but that was before I saw the sort of trash you > continually spew. Such trash should be an indicator to you of your -real- position on censorship. It is said that a supporter is someone who will say anything. Perhaps this is your position on free speech...a mere supporter? I invite your response to this question. > If you have something to say that is of interest, maybe you may gain some > credibility. As it is, I won't be holding my breath, waiting for such a > reversal of form. The interest you seek is most probably only words of support for your position. Aiming at truth is always discouraged from those who do not know how to seek it. If you truly had any real interest in the anti-censorship position, you would watch your reactions to words which you yourself dislike, and attempt to understand what it feels like to want words removed from your reading selection by some other party. In this way, you would understand the pro-censorship position and therefore be in possession of enough real data to make a real decision as to which side you are on, if any. > Flames welcomed, from such fools as you obviously are. No flames from me are appropriate at this time...but...when *I* flame you, you will know you have been flamed. I haven't bestowed that honor upon anyone in years, so don't get your hopes up. > ~ Have you noticed that people who are most unwilling to accept ~ > ~ responsibility for their own actions, are the most keen to regulate ~ > ~ everyone else's? ~ Examples seem to abound on this from Dr. Vulis's selections from cypherpunks that I have seen. Granted, this is his bias I am also seeing... ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Reporter (n.) - 1. A cat waiting at a mousehole.

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Re: At the risk of getting flamed :)
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dr. Vulis writes: > Cypherpunks have been forging Usenet posts from "freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org" > to alt.business.* et al, asking for business opps in e-mail. I'm thinking of > forwarding the resulting spam on f-k back to cypherpunks. Two things about this, to BOTH lists. As a Freedom Knight, it is my opinion that the appropriate demonstration for Freedom Knights is to ignore this junk email. This appears to be proceeding quite well, if a minor annoyance to some. However, I cannot in good conscience personally accept a "J'accuse" cypherpunks of forging Usenet posts to freedom knights. Since we have no proof of this action, it is my opinion that we must adhere to "innocent until proven guilty". I would like everyone to understand that this accusation is not shared (nor even considered until seeing the above quote) by myself, nor should it be shared by anyone who is or who calls themself a "Freedom Knight". Honor before blind support, Observation before belief, Truth before justice. Those who understand these principles will not be harmed by the net. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet What we see depends on mainly what we look for.

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Re: Homosexual Lynch Mob, Cabal
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dale Thorn writes: >Stephen Boursey writes: > > That was due to zionism was it not? I hate zionists with a passion. > > Zionists continue to this day to make all sorts of unsavory tradeofffs > > to keep their stolen land > This is really a tough one. I'd guess that the agenda of Zionists, > as well as some of their allies, changes or incorporates additional > goals at different levels in the cabal. We all know what the lower > levels look like, but the nature of the very top level intrigues me > to no end. Is it just money and power, control of property etc.? > Or is it something "really evil"? Whether Zionist, Sexist, Sexualist, Racist, or Net.Elitist, all cabals share similar patterns of operation. They all: -Assert themselves as "better than" others by some arbitrary standard of comparison, -Place great importance on "belonging to", as it relates to groups of humans with common attributes, and -Direct power and energy to maintaining the illusion of "better than" among as many humans as they can. To look at the -real- top level invites much danger if not properly prepared. The existance and proliferation of "cabals" (or groups, cliques, etc.) is a primary factor in keeping people asleep, irresponsible, and unaware. Ask yourself who would want to keep people that way. Remember, people in such states are much easier to control. To use a popular example, all I have to do is frame someone as a "Fag Basher" in front of a lot of "homosexuals" to remove that someone from their graces. > The average citizen will never support freedom fighters, and I think > this is even more true of the Internet than in the outside world. This is because the average citizen is usually emotionally and/or intellectually attached to some group, as are the freedom fighters. When the goals of both groups are in conflict (which is common), people in one group automatically denounce the other. > Of course, I hope I'm wrong, or that there's some technology or > formula that will enable average people to have the courage to > defend that freedom. There is, but it's too simple. Few see it, fewer take it. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

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spamming
by MOESCH＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I saw your posting. What is your feelings about spamming?

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One-time pads
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Igor asks what these examples prove...
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's another article from s.c.r.m where one of the moderators verbally abuses a person banned from posting in that forum (myself :-). The gratuitous abuse is totally off-topic and has no connection to the flame thread it's in. That's what the lying cocksucker John Gilmore wants to be able to do on his private mailing list - to post more lies which the victims of his libel will not be allowed to refute. ]X-SCRM-Policy: http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/index.html ]X-SCRM-Info-1: Send submissions to scrm(a)algebra.com ]X-SCRM-Info-2: Send technical complaints to scrm-admin(a)algebra.com ]X-SCRM-Info-3: Send complaints about policy to scrm-board(a)algebra.com ]X-Comment: moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. ]X-Robomod-Version: STUMP 1.1, by ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov) ]Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:27:03 CST ]From: vladimir(a)chinook.physics.utoronto.ca (Vladimir Smirnov) ]Message-ID: <199701121028.FAA06007(a)chinook.physics.utoronto.ca> ]Subject: Re: Russian diplomats are pigs ]Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian.moderated ]X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP soc.culture.russian.moderated ] ]rqk10(a)oes.amdahl.com (Roman Kostin) wrote: ]> Po suschestvu, govorish'? Ya sejchas tebe skazhu po suschestvu. ]> ]> Tvoj kommentarij byl tsinichen, tup i beschelovechen. I kogda ]> tebe na eto ukazyvayut, tebe sleduet izvinit'sya i zatknut'sya, ]> a ne ogryzat'sya kak shavka. ] ] Narod, ja vas ubeditel'no proshu ne ustraivat' gryznju v ]moderiruemoj newsgruppe. Kommentarij u Sashi, konechno, byl ]tak sebe, no sobak na nego naveshali po polnoj programme, ]kak budto on dejstvitel'no uzh chego-to takoe skazal. ]Idi von (eto Kostinu) Dr. D.V.Ulissa popinaj, esli principial'nost' ]v golovu udarila. Ili stremno? ] ]- Smirnov ] ] ]

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STUMP
by Paul Elliott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Infowar Digest Volume 02: Number 01
by Betty G. O'Hearn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We thank our sponsors: Internet Security Solutions New Dimensions International - Security Training HOMECOM Communications National Computer Security Association OPEN SOURCE SOLUTIONS, Inc. __________________________________________________ Infowar(a)infowar.com is brought to you in the the interest of an open, unclassified exchange of information and ideas as a means for advancement of Information Warfare related issues. Topics of discussion for this list include: Infowar, Electronic Civil Defense, Hacking, Defensive Techniques, Policy, Non-Lethals, Psyops, Chemical Warfare Agents and WMD. As the list expands we will adapt to the needs and desires of our subscribers. This is a MODERATED DIGEST format. __________________________________________________________ Infowar Sunday, January 12, 1997 Volume 02: Number 01 RE: Call for Anecdotes RE: The Media and Information Warfare RE: British PsyOps RE: Futuristic Battlefield RE: IWAR Journal RE: Discussion Forums Open ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: infowar(a)infowar.com From: Jules Siegel <jsiegel(a)mail.caribe.net.mx> Subject: Call for anecdotes Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:17:32 -0600 CALL FOR ANECDOTES I need your help. I'm a writer. My work has appeared in Playboy, Esquire, Rolling Stone, Best American Short Stories. You can examine my credentials at http://www.caribe.net.mx/siegel/jsiegel.htm I am currently researching the following article for American Reporter: The End of Privacy When the chief operating officer of a major telephone company can't keep his unlisted telephone number secret, you know the battle for personal privacy is pretty much lost. New York magazine found the address of reclusive novelist Thomas Pynchon through an on-line credit-card checking service in two minutes. Encrypting messages attracts attention and no secret remains secret very long when hackers with the skills of con men trick the unsuspecting into revealing passwords. So what would a world without privacy be like? Maybe it's not all 1984 -- honesty could be another by-product. I wonder if anyone might want to share: [1] Any unusually biting anecdotes that would fit the theme above? [2] Other sources of similar information? [3] Quotable opinions? I'm basically interested in personal opinions and experiences. Example: I received a reply from a writer who had been the subject of a searching expose and came out of it feeling liberated of her secrets. I think that as a practical matter privacy no longer exists, if it ever did. I think it's an illusion created by industrialism. Only hermits had privacy in the past. As we pass into the next phase of social evolution, I believe that our constructs will resemble animism -- that is they will be living or life-like, soft rather than hard, transparent rather than opaque. Today, the cost of maintaining secrets is beginning to outweigh the value. Yet we're still addicted to this illusion. What would a genuinely transparent world be like to those used to living behind masks? I'm also interested in comments on the following: [4] Electronic surveillance In last November's PC Computing, John Dvorak claimed that government intelligence agencies had set up remail services in order to check on people using them. In a private letter I received, a very sane but prudent journalist working for a mainstream newspaper cited fears of e-mail being read by intelligence agencies as a reason for not telling me something he had on his mind. Questions: What do we know about this sort of thing? What do are we doing about it? [5] Spying in the newsroom Earlier this year, The Miami Herald's Jim Hampton came out strongly against the CIA using reporters as spies in foreign country. What about in the United States? I have received information on more than one occasion about journalists on the payroll of intelligence and/or police agencies spying on their colleagues, as well as making trouble for specific targets, and helping squelch certain themes, among other activities. Question: Do publications tolerate this? Cooperate fully? If not, how do they handle these cases when they become aware of them? [6] Blacklisting The existence of black lists was very well documented in the wake of the McCarthy era. I'm sure we have good reason to believe that they still exist. Questions: Do electronic editorial black lists exist? Other fields? How do they work? How does a victim get off a black list? All replies will be fully attributed and I will send a checking copy of the final draft to anyone whose anecdote I use. Many thanks for your interest and cooperation. Jules Siegel http://www.caribe.net.mx/siegel/jsiegel.htm >From USA: http://www.yucatanweb.com/siegel/jsiegel.htm Mail: Apdo. 1764 Cancun QR 77501 Mexico Tel: 011-52-98 87-49-18 Fax 87-49-13 E-mail: jsiegel(a)mail.caribe.net.mx ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: Infowar(a)infowar.com From: Daigle166(a)aol.com Subject: The Media and Information Warfare Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:14:59 +0000 Message-Id: <22145965403068(a)infowar.com> Hi, I am currently working on a thesis paper concerned with the subject of information warfare as it relates to the media. Specifically, my research question is: "Is it morally and ethically acceptable for military commanders and staff members to purposely mislead the media for the purpose of tactical deception and information warfare against one's enemies?" I will obviously be taking a look at both sides of this issue and would appreciate any information you may have on the subject. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: "Winn Schwartau" <winn(a)infowar.com> Cc: Infowar(a)infowar.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:53:57 +0000 From: Maobrien95(a)aol.com I'm looking for books that would detail British PsychOps, especially its use in Northern Ireland. Thank you very much for your time.My e-mail: Maobrien95(a)aol.com Respectfully, Frank O'Brien ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: "Betty G. O'Hearn" <betty(a)infowar.com> From: "Michael H. Sedge" <pp10013(a)cybernet.it> Subject: Futuristic Battlefields Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 12:56:54 +0100 Dear Betty, Thanks in part to the input you provided and the quotes obtained through your resources, I was able to produce a feature on Cyber Warfare that will appear in the February issue of ARMED FORCES JOURNAL INTERNATIONAL, and perhaps other publications around the world. I am now working on a story which takes a look at the FUTURISTIC BATTLEFIELD and seek experts for quotes, insight, products, etc. Such things as robotic soldiers and unmanned aircraft will be discussed, as well as warfare controlled from romote sites. Any help, leads, manufacturers, etc., that you could provide would be helpful. Best regards & Happy New Year. Sincerely, Michael H. Sedge ARMED FORCES JOURNAL INTERNATIONAL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:29:26 -0500 To: infowar(a)infowar.com From: "Betty G. O'Hearn" <betty(a)infowar.com> Subject: IWAR Journal. The Journal of IWAR Intelligence Acquisition - is now being made available at http://www.iwar.org/. This journal is published by William Church, a distinquished journalist in the field. Current Issue: Spring 1997: Information Warfare Threat Model. Articles by Michael Wilson, Robert Steele, Philip H.J. Davies, Special Report on the IPTF, and an interview with Winn Schwartau. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: Infowar(a)infowar.com From: "Betty G. O'Hearn" <betty(a)infowar.com> Subject: Discussion Forums Open On Monday, January 13, 1997 WWW.InfoWar.Com will begin hosting a series of discussion forums, available to anyone on the Internet. Everyone who logs onto the forums will also be provided with a mini-home-page (for free!) so other participants may get to know with whom they are interacting. The discussion forums may be accessed from the Infowar.Com Home Page by clicking on the "Digest, Discussion & Chat Groups" icon. The forum moderators will be: Moderator Topic Winn Schwartau Information Warfare and President, Interpact, Inc. Electronic Civil Defense Carolyn Meinel Hackers/Hacking Publisher of Happy Hacker Digest Matthew Devost Terrorism Systems Engineer, SAIC William Church IWAR Publisher of The Journal of IWAR Intelligence Acquisition Scott Brower EBR Electronic Bill of Rights/Privacy Executive Director, Electronic Frontiers Florida Robert Steele OSSINT President OPEN SOURCE SOLUTIONS, Inc. Unmoderated Viruses Unmoderated Infosec We welcome this distinguished group of moderators and encourage you to participate in these forums. Sign in and start posting! Have an idea for a new discussion forum? Want to be a moderator? Contact betty(a)infowar.com. _______________________________:) InfoWar.Com will also be introducing several hundred "chat" lines in the coming weeks. Keep contributing..... keep up your input. We are introducing these new modules that you have requested. Thanks for all of your invaluable support. Winn Schwartau and the incomparable staff at www.infowar.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END Infowar Volume 2 No. 1 January 12, 1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DIRECT REQUESTS to: list(a)infowar.com with one-line in the BODY, NOT in the subject line. Subscribe infowar TO JOIN GROUP Unsubscribe infowar TO LEAVE GROUP Help infowar TO RECEIVE HELP TO POST A MESSAGE: E-Mail to infowar(a)infowar.com _____________________________________________________ Infowar.Com Interpact, Inc. Winn Schwartau winn(a)infowar.com http://www.infowar.com 813-393-6600 Voice 813-393-6361 FAX Sponsor Opportunities/Comments/Help Betty G. O'Hearn Assistant to Winn Schwartau http://www.infowar.com betty(a)infowar.com 813-367-7277 Voice 813-363-7277 FAX

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InfoWarCon6 - Brussels, Belgium
by Betty G. O'Hearn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

D I S T R I B U T E W I D E L Y CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT InfoWarCon 6: "War By Other Means" Economic Espionage, CyberTerrorism and Information Assurance Brussels, Belgium May 8 - 9, 1997 Pre-Conference Tutorials: May 7, 1996 Sponsored by: National Computer Security Association / www.ncsa.com Winn Schwartau, Interpact, Inc. / www.infowar.com Open Source Solutions, Inc, / www.oss.net Honorary Chairperson: Judge Danielle Cailloux Investigating Magistrate, Member of the Committee to Control the Intelligence Services, Belgium Information Warfare is no longer just for the military or government. InfoWar is a legitimate concern for the private sector and law enforcement - everywhere. Hundreds of representatives from over thirty countries will interact at InfoWarCon 6 with world-class presenters in an open-source, unclassified forum to provide workable, real-world solutions to the commercial, legal and technical problems we face. Over two days, the three tracks and plenary sessions will focus on: 1. Military, Intelligence, Nation-States and Government Contractors. What are their special needs and concerns. Leaders from all areas will bring you current with their approaches. 2. Cyberterrorism and Crime: Law Enforcement, Domestic, National and International. Case histories and experience from those who know will provide the foundation for solutions and cooperation to a spreading problem. 3. The Private Sector and Commercial Infrastructure: Leading experts on information assurance will provide new models for security, management and infrastructure protection. Optional Pre-Conference Tutorials (May 7) > Three Pre-Conference tutorials will be offered to get the non-technical manager, law enforcement or government representative 'up to speed' on InfoWar: > >A. Open Source Intelligence. Robert Steele, ex-CIA case officer and intelligence professional, will teach you how and why the smart nation and competitive private company needs to use information gathering to his best advantage. A full day of extraordinary information and materials. > B. Information Security Basics. Dr. Mich Kabay, NCSA's Dir. of Education will take the non-technical manager on a three and one half hour tour of the fundamentals of information security. Essential knowledge for anyone involved with information warfare, cyberterrorism or defending against them. C. The Basics of Information Warfare and Cyberterrorism.Winn Schwartau, the man who wrote the books on Cyber-terrorism and Information Warfare, will teach the >non-technical participant the ins and outs in a fascinating 3 1/2 hour session. >For Registration Information > Kim Imler > Voice: (717) 241-3226 > Fax: (717) 243-8642 > Email: kimler(a)ncsa.com > WWW: www.Infowar.com > www.ncsa.com > >Sponsorship Opportunities - Multiple level sponsorship >opportunities and exhibit space is available. Contact: > Harry Brittain > Voice: (717) 241-3258 > Fax: (717) 243-8642 > Email: hbrittain(a)ncsa.com > >MARK YOUR CALENDARS: > >InfoWarCon 7, >Sept. 11-12, 1997 >Washington D.C. >Submit Abstracts and Papers to: >Betty(a)infowar.com DIRECT REQUESTS to: list(a)infowar.com with one-line in the BODY, NOT in the subject line. Subscribe infowar TO JOIN GROUP Unsubscribe infowar TO LEAVE GROUP Help infowar TO RECEIVE HELP TO POST A MESSAGE: E-Mail to infowar(a)infowar.com _____________________________________________________ Infowar.Com Interpact, Inc. Winn Schwartau winn(a)infowar.com http://www.infowar.com 813-393-6600 Voice 813-393-6361 FAX Sponsor Opportunities/Comments/Help Betty G. O'Hearn Assistant to Winn Schwartau http://www.infowar.com betty(a)infowar.com 813-367-7277 Voice 813-363-7277 FAX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Betty G. O'Hearn Assistant to Winn Schwartau http://www.infowar.com betty(a)infowar.com 813-367-7277 Voice 813-363-7277 Data/FAX "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed. ~~~Booker T. Washington~~~

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Checking debit
by geo2＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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sad
by Internaut 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am sad that all the spam from companies will be gone soon. I enjoy thinking that perhaps 10% (or ~120) of the Cypherpunks along with me hit the reply button and type "remove" giving them a great return for their investment (pun intended :). ---------- From: PS[SMTP:pstone@lightspeed.bc.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 1997 02.59 PM To: pstone(a)lightspeed.bc.ca Subject: Saw your post Hi there! I saw your post the other day and thought you might be interested in a decent offer on some excellent information. Start an excellent home business today!!! For a brochure that outlines THE TEN BEST OPPORTUNITES IN BUSINESS TODAY send me a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Mail to : M.K. Press 1310 W.67th Ave. Vancouver. B.C. Canada V6P 2T4 Please write "Offer # 4322" by hand on the envelope to me. Never want to hear from me again? Simple. Hit reply, put <REMOVE> in the Subject field, and send it on back.. Thanks.

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Re: Menwith Hill / NSA
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At DefCon III, someone had a video on these ladies ("granny hackers" was >the comment from the audience) who explore[d] the Menwith Hill NSA base in >the UK. The video was shown twice from what I remember, once in the main >speaker room and once in the video room. If anyone knows anything about >this video then please email me [tobin(a)mail.edm.net] especially if you >know WHO had it, where I could get a copy, etc. Also, I'd like to hear >about any other similar type things. (crypto, NSA, etc) I talked to the guy who made the documentary (Duncan Campbell) an hour or two ago, he's sending me the transcripts when he gets back to the UK. I'll see if I can get his permission to post them to the web. He's been doing this sort of thing for about 25 years, and has some really neat stories to tell about his run-ins with the UK government. Peter.

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Re: Ma Bell
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 97-01-11 15:36:31 EST, mindbenders(a)hotmail.com (LoRd oRiOn) writes: << .why do Telco people and the government blame us hackers for costing them billions of dollars a year to fix the security holes that they have??? >> Considering there is a LARGE workload on the employees as it is.. they dont need more work suddenly that is unneeded. Basically EVERY system has some kinds of security holes. If noone knows about them.. then it isnt a problem. If someone is exploiting them and using money from the company illegaly (free phone service) .. even though it may only be 5 of you doing it.. it has a LARGE potential to become globally exploited by tons of people. So.. they have to invest time and money to research the hole and fix it. Thats why.

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Product Manager for hire.
by Geoff Klein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Jan 13 15:45:49 1997 Product Manager with extensive experience in messaging and security is seeking a challenging position in a warm climate. For resume see: http://members.tripod.com/~geoff_cv/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Geoff Klein, Pronto Secure Product Manager http://www.commtouch.com, Tel: 972-9-963445 (ext 130), Fax: 972-9-961053 For my PGP public key send mail with subject: Get Key - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMto8kULv5OMYFK1FAQHChwP/a5d7lG7jD7ULMlfsh5Cfo4DsShbwuTij EB2C/8G0fvg4uGlhMDWr+q2u2R5K5laEM/a9yySn79iBpLQ+viDOphUC5vfTknbo trqggHQUhjlDYftwTAJdnBNXh/XAfGCgoPpHJ4pYOEYs+mVpsla1a9w7SFuQUb18 zKwP1hKlacI= =F8SZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy May's mother attempted to pro-choice the unwanted little bastard by fishing with a coat hanger in her giant cunt, but failed miserably to pull the rabbit and succeeded only in scraping out the contents of little Timmy's fetal cranium (not much to begin with). O |'| /\ | | Timmy May /\ \-------| / / |-------|

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{"extropia"} = "<remail(a)miron.vip.best.com> cpunk pgp special"; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{'alpha'} = '<alias(a)alpha.c2.org> alpha pgp'; $remailer{'nymrod'} = '<nymrod(a)nym.jpunix.com> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"lead"} = "<mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"exon"} = "<remailer(a)remailer.nl.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"haystack"} = "<haystack(a)holy.cow.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"lucifer"} = "<lucifer(a)dhp.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"balls"} = "<remailer(a)huge.cajones.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"middle"} = "<middleman(a)jpunix.com> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"dustbin"} = "<dustman(a)athensnet.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek mix reord middle ?"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"death"} = "<x(a)deathsdoor.com> cpunk pgp hash latent post"; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix) (weasel squirrel) The alpha and nymrod nymservers are down due to abuse. However, you can use the nym or weasel (newnym style) nymservers. The cyber nymserver is quite reliable for outgoing mail (which is what's measured here), but is exhibiting serious reliability problems for incoming mail. The squirrel and winsock remailers accept PGP encrypted mail only. 403 Permission denied errors have been caused by a flaky disk on the Berkeley WWW server. This seems to be fixed now. The penet remailer is closed. Last update: Mon 13 Jan 97 6:48:59 PST remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- lucifer lucifer(a)dhp.com ++++++++++++ 37:22 99.99% nym config(a)nym.alias.net **#*#*++#+-# 20:08 99.99% weasel config(a)weasel.owl.de ++++++-++++ 1:15:41 99.96% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com +++++++.-++* 2:25:45 99.91% replay remailer(a)replay.com *+* +--+*+** 35:43 99.87% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net ------+---- 2:54:30 99.81% balls remailer(a)huge.cajones.com *+******+ ** 4:00 99.67% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net +++*+ +* +*+ 35:01 99.61% middle middleman(a)jpunix.com ----+++++ -+ 53:56 99.60% exon remailer(a)remailer.nl.com #**#**** ++# 2:26 99.24% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de ++++ +-++ + 1:18:06 99.21% dustbin dustman(a)athensnet.com +_.--++-++- 4:39:11 99.18% extropia remail(a)miron.vip.best.com --- ------- 4:46:40 98.01% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net - --++++ + 1:05:02 97.84% lead mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu ++++++ 35:13 95.73% haystack haystack(a)holy.cow.net + ####++* 39:45 74.33% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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Re: Why are 1024 bit keys the limit right now?
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I am just starting at this. I know that part of RSA/PGP's strength comes from > the size key you choose. What prevents someone from writting a 2048 bit key? > Is it because computers can't handle it? Is 1024 top of the prime number > size right now? Am I way off track? 2048 bit keys are quite commonly used but the reason that arbitrarily large keys are not good is because of the amount of time taken to generate the keys then encrypt and decrypt messages with them, PGP uses a hybrid system whereby the rsa algorithm encrypts a one time session IDEA key, a longer RSA key would result in unacceptably long waits for most users when encrypting and decrypting messages. In the end it comes down to a trade off between speed and security and 1024 bits is a sensible compromise for most uses. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Comment: "What do you mean by 'extensive research'." > Reply: Benchmark tests. Source code comparisons. Documentations of other > algorithms. "Applied Cryptography". So you have read applied cryptography and decided that qualifies you as a cryptographer? > Comment: "I've never even heard of IMDMP before. Is this a joke?" > Reply: UDCM (IMDMP) came out January 1st, 1997. How do you think successful > companies start anyway, with millions of dollars upfront? DataET Research is > a relatively new company. No new company should be dabbling with new algorithms, an assurance of a high probability of security comes with years of attempted cryptanalysis. > Comment: "What kind of industry standard is IMDMP above?" > Reply: 128-bit encryption. Average DES is 128. PGP tops 1024. IDEA goes at > 128. RSA the same. Full security IMDMP is 2048-bit. Any other questions? This is irrelevant rubbish, if there is a cryptanalytic attack on your algorithm a brute force attack becomes unecessary and key size is not of consequence. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: encryption program
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > > > I'm looking for ciphertext analysis tools -- > > > > What analysis tools did you use? Where can I get a publicly available copy? > > > > I just wrote a little c program for frequency analysis, but would > also be interested if such set of tools existed. > > - Igor. The DIEHARD battery of tools, as seen on the Marsaglia random number cd published by Dr. Marsaglia of Florida university, a notable figure in PRNG design and analysis sounds appropriate for your purposes. It performs a number of statistical tests which may be useful, though I personally happen not to trust statistical tests to a great extent under most circumstances. If you cannot find these tools after a web search for DIEHARD or Marsaglia email me and I will send you a copy... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: RSA over Rubiks Cube
by Scottauge＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This problably wouldn't be to cool a thing to do. A fella named Douglas Hopstader(?) wrote a book called Meta-Mathematics (same guy who wrote The Golden Knot). In this book he developed (or showed, forget who should get credit) an algorithm to solve Rubiks cube from any beginning state. It makes for interesting reading, but kills any attempt to use the cube as a cipher machine.

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Re: encryption program
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > * The two 'e's in the first word have different ciphertext equivalents, > > so it's not a single-alphabet substitution > yes Could be homophonic substitution or possibly (more probably, in my estimation, polygram substitution. There is also the possibility of a polyalphabetic cipher... > I also likes "follows": "vkbcjtp" note how ll gets translated to "bc". > That suggest that after some encryption of each letter from the plaintext > there is a consecutively increasing number added. This tends to suggest polyalphabetic substitution. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: ok, htf do I get off this list?
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> OK, I've now sent THREE requests to majordomo to get off this list.. I got > a reply back 4 hours ago saying I was off, and the next two said I wasn't > a member of the list. Interesting list (minus the spamcrap obviously) and > I think the moderation will be a good thing Just wait a few hours more, I would expect it`s just a backlog and you will be properly unsuscribed soon. If you want to subscribe try filtering your mail to remove things you don`t want to read, this can cut the list down to a more manageable 20 or 30 messages a day although I read nearly all of the 100 or so messages a day passing through here. > , BUT the 20 emails I've received > in the last 4 hours (since I 'officially' unsubbed) is (to say the least) far > more than I (or any reasonable mortal) can deal with. Absolutely, you will find all of the long term suscribers on this list are immortal. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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RE: spamming
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: MOESCH(a)aol.com I saw your posting. What is your feelings about spamming? ..................................................... It is presumptuous and annoying. This list is aimed at discussions of a distinct subject, and not intended to be available, like Usenet, to random disturbances from disinterested parties. .. Blanc >

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Re: New Carmen Sandiego shows announced
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Path: perun!news2.panix.com!panix!news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fugue.clari.net!funny-request From: verax(a)mindspring.com (Serenleono, the Serene Lion) Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny Subject: New Carmen Sandiego shows announced Keywords: chuckle, swearing, racial stereotypes Message-ID: <Sa90.6d7a(a)clarinet.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 19:30:03 EST Organization: Lord Tower Productions (USA) Lines: 57 Approved: funny-request(a)clari.net BOSTON, M. A. (Freuder) - The two most popular children's educational game shows -- "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" and "Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?" -- now have two new siblings, according to an announcement made today by WGHB Boston, one of the production entities that owns the popular programs. "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" is a game show which challenges young contestants on their knowledge of world geography while they "track down" the infamous villain Carmen Sandiego. Similarly, "Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?" quizes children about ancient and modern history. Because of the enormous positive response received from educators, parents' groups, and kids alike, WGHB Boston, WPED Pittsburgh, and the Incorporation for Public Broadcasting this week announced a new set of television programs to expand their children's educational programming group. The two new incarnations will be entitled "Where Dat Carmen Bitch At?" which challenges contestants on their knowledge of racial stereotypes, and "Where the Fuck is Carmen Sandiego?" which quizes young contestants on their knowledge of the human reproductive system. from the first broadcast of: WHERE DAT CARMEN BITCH AT? QUERIST: "Okay, contestants, the next question is, 'What do you call the white man when he oppresses your people?" CONTESTANT TIMMY: "A 'honkey'?" CONTESTANT TRISHA: "I answer, 'a jive-ass mother fucker'?" CONTESTANT LAWANDA: "I also say, 'a jive-ass mutha fucka.'" QUERIST: "Right you are, Trisha and Lawanda! And may the white man never forget what he has wrought against the tribe of Shabaaz." from the first broadcast of: WHERE THE FUCK IS CARMEN SANDIEGO? QUERIST: "Okay, contestants, here's the next question in our 'testosterone teaser round': What is the name for fellatio during which the penis is taken into the throat?" CONTESTANT TIMMY: "Uh, I answer a 'Madonna mouthwash'?" CONTESTANT TRISHA: "The 'mother of all blow jobs'?" CONTESTANT LAWANDA: "That's nasty! Momma, get me off this show!" -- Selected by Jim Griffith. MAIL your joke to funny(a)clari.net. Attribute the joke's source if at all possible. A Daemon will auto-reply. Remember: Only ONE joke per submission. Extra jokes may be rejected. For the full submission guidelines, see http://comedy.clari.net/rhf/

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OTA papers
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I came across a couple of very good Office of Technology Assessment papers, "Electronic Surveillance in a Digital Age (July 1995)." Download the .pdf at: http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1995/9513_n.html Another paper sure to be of interest to many CPs is the excellent "Information Technologies for the Control of Money Laundering (September 1995)." Get the .pdf at: http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1995/9529_n.html Its too bad OTA got the budgetary ax. I met several of the staff and I regarded them highly. -- Steve

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] U.S.S. Liberty
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy C[unt] Maya's father, an idiot, stumbled across Timmy C[unt] Maya's mother, an imbecile, when she had no clothes on. Nine months later she had a little moron. \\\\\|///// \\\\|//// < * | * > | * | \( . )/ \___/

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Re: If guilty of a lesser crime, you can be sentenced for a greater
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:04 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Mark M. wrote: > ... >Sentencing enhancements: > >There is a big book called the Federal Sentencing Guidelines Handbook (or >some such). To arrive at the appropriate sentence range, you add up the >points of all the offenses the defendant was convicted of (Assume Bank >Fraud is 18 points, Murder 35 or whatever- I dont remember them offhand) >and run across a chart which has "criminal history catagory" on the >vertical axis. Where the two meet gives you the sentence range. I'm not >near my office right now, but if there is enough interest I will dig up >the current handbook and run a sample sentencing through. > >The most common one I see is "Victims helpless or infirm" which usually >boosts 2 to 5 points. > >Sentencing enhancements are not double jeapordy either. I don't see how >you can argue they are. For example, there is a provision in bank fraud >sentencing guidelines which enhances the sentence according to the size of >the loss, and I believe there is a kicker if the financial institution >folds. > >I believe the highest base offense level was "Espionage" or some such. > >There are also sentencing limiters. "Defendant displays clear remorse." >I think is one. > >Go out to a law book store and take a look at the guideline book. It's >actually a lot of fun. "Ok, say I killed my wife for her coke stash and >recruited my brother to dump the body..." > ... >> In one case, the defendant was convicted of possession of cocaine with intent >> to distribute but was found not guilty of possession of a firearm related to >> a drug charge (apparently, this is a crime). > >It's both a crime and an enhancement for most federal drug offenses. > I have seen in the paper where a person has been convicted of using a scanner in the commition of a felony. In my opinion, this is exactly how crypto would be a crime, when using it in the commission of another crime. In most cases, it seems, the scanner is used to monitor the police bands so that the criminals will have advance warning when to hide thier actions. Of course, around here, a person owning a scanner for monitoring the police and fire bands is normal. It is just one more way of gathering news. Please correct me if any of my facts are in error.

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Re: It's a great new year! telemarketers and solicitors
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:06 PM 1/9/97 -0500, relia(a)juno.com wrote: ... > You have the RIGHT to have negative >information removed in many instances. My partner and I have put together >an easy to read, easy to use manual that will explain your rights and may help >you restore your credit to A+ status. Why pay an attorney $2,000 or some >credit counselor $500 or more to do exactly what you can do for yourself? > >For less than $15, you can help yourself to better credit. We'll give you >all the tools you need and explain exactly what to do. ... >You've probably seen other offers or similar credit repair packages that >promise overnight results. Anyone who promises a quick overnight fix is >*lying* to you. It takes time and perseverance to fix your bad credit. >But, it can be done! ... >Don't get ripped off and don't take bad advice that encourages you to break >the law! Our system WORKS! Our credit repair manual will show you step by >step how to do it yourself - and it's not hard to do! ... > We purchased a >mailing list of folks who should be interested in various products that >we produce, but mailing lists can be wrong, and we don't want to take your >time again unnecessarily. Thanks for your help! > I understand that freedom of speech is a basic right, and I understand the nature of public discourse which is unhindered being more valuable, even if the signal to noise ratio is higher. I also subscribe to the idea that in a forum where only speech is possible, a persons use of that speech is the representation of that person. (Not that it never is otherwise.) What I'm trying to get at is, when does freedom of speech in a "speech only" environment" become soliciting? To me, though it is only my opinion, it seems that a telemarketer wishing to offer wares to a group on a mailing list should get permission from the lists maintainer. I apologize if this is already the case, as my accusations would be pointless. To me, it seems to be a breach of conduct for a company to use a mailing list that is not thier own as a mass mailing technique. Again, these are only my personal opinions.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: encryption program
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I ran a quick Kappa test on it. There was a nice fat spike at key length 25, as somebody else suggested, but an almost perfect correlation at 100. The message is almost certainly a simple polyalphabetic cipher with keylength 100. I've been playing with it, and have maybe 5% of it decoded. It's full of really blatent clues. Kind of fun.

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Re: encryption program
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> what do you mean, polyalphabetic substitution? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it refers to a cipher where each character is encrypted individually, using a different monoalphabetic cipher for each one. The ciphers repeat after a certain period, usually the key length. Vigenere is the simplest polyalphabetic cipher of them all, with the individual ciphers simply being ROT-n.

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Re: sendmail-type thing for Windows
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:00 PM 1/10/97 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone know of a simple program for windows that can, like >sendmail, work as a mail agent ans send mail messages from its stdin? I >am interested in sending email messages from Windoze boxes as part of >some automated process driven by .BAT files. > >i.e., what I need is a program that I could invoke like this > >DOS> sendmail some(a)address.com >From: sender(a)originator.com >To: some(a)address.com >Subject: hello > >hello > I don't know if this will help you, but, I have found that by typing win winmine.exe at the dos prompt, I am taken straight to minesweeper. The program manager window is minimized in this example. It seems that most of windows programs, when accessed from File/Run act like command line programs, this is how the File Manager can bring up a text file in the Write program. I haven't tried it, but you might try nesting arguments, for instance WIN WRITE FILE.TXT to see if it comes right up into Write, working on file.txt. I will have to get back to you on rather or not this works, but if it does, and someone has cracked the windows macro Recorder, such as what you described should be possible from a batch file.

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[NOISE] Re: IMPORTANT: Additional information about UDCM.
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:13 PM 1/10/97 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: ... >I am also wondering, I am listed as visitor 189 on his web site. Under >most optimistic assumptions, if *every* visitor bought his product, he would >have made $40*188 = $7520. Of course, it is possible that so many people visited his site that the counter started over. For instance, if the counter had 8 digits, perhaps you were visitor number 10000189. Just a thought.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: PBS program - Turing/Enigma
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

dave_gellerman(a)newbridge.com (Dave Gellerman) writes: > In article <01bbfde7$950f4820$fb1093cf(a)worldnet.worldnet.att.net>, "Tech" > <TIER-1(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > Feb 2,1997 (one 90 minute show) ref: www.pbs.org > > > > bill_h <bill_h(a)azstarnet.com> wrote in article > > <32D1F2C1.9B1(a)azstarnet.com>... > > > Just caught a teaser on Public Television for an upcoming Mobile > > > Masterpiece Theatre presentation billed as "the true story of > > > Alan Turing" titled 'Breaking The Code'. > > > > > > The little bit of clips they showed looked fascinating. > > > > > > Is this a 'new' show or a re-run? Anybody know anything about it? > > > > > From the pbs web site: > > > "Breaking the Code" (2/2) Based on the play by Hugh Whitemore and > the book Alan Turing: the Enigma by > Andrew Hodges, this program tells the story of Turing (Derek > Jacobi), the mathematical genius who was > responsible for designing the computer that enabled the allies to > crack the German Enigma code and, some would > argue, win the war. On Churchill's specific instructions, Turing was > given all the resources he required and his > personal behavior was tolerated - Turing was an active homosexual at > a time when homosexuality was illegal. > Amanda Root, Prunella Scales, Harold Pinter, Alun Armstrong and > Richard Johnson also star. > > > Dave Homosexuality was pretty well accepted in GB in 1930's, as evidenced by the success of Comrade Philby and his friends. Homosexuals have a strange attraction to cryptography, perhaps because of its connection to privacy and anonymity. But they haven't made any contribution to it (or to any other area of human knowledge). They ascribe to Turing the results of heterosexual cryptographers; they libel prominent heterosexuals like Leonardo da Vinci to argue that their perversion somehow leads to intellectual superiority. While homosexuality used to be a detriment to obtaining a security clearance, being gay at NSA was a big plus under Inman. Of course now being gay is a big plus anywhere in the KKKlintoris administration. ObHomophobocReference: cocksucker John Gilmore is full of shit. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Crypto site move http://www.sni.net/~mpj/usa/warning.htm
by Michael Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The method for accessing my strong crypto library ftp site has changed to one that I hope is easier for those of you who are in the USA or Canada. Simply point your browser to http://www.sni.net/~mpj/usa/warning.htm and follow the instructions. This should work even with text-based browsers, like lynx, and should be easier to navigate for AOL customers. You may be amused that the President of the United States has determined that cryptographic software export controls are necessary for U. S. "National Security" even though the same software is available "or appears to be available" from outside of the USA. For a partial list of cryptographic software sites outside of North America, see http://www.sni.net/~mpj/freecryp.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.7.1 iQEVAgUBMtrB/G+Iqt/O4EnZAQGUVwf7BP3gqjQ5Ur1ymToHdMs2ctf8wLmrf1mS Pw4xr5QGKYMzPP4cK1dnqXSiWI4vxOTK+/WC+ZxH1Cvxrw6+3qlKp1o005qsAAY5 AetqLP6skW7hEesT27bGzwtKBEWrnFRa3YLc6vC+opu78Kz9myAQPdPcQ0tuI8mI +eD0EIiBVWEoWyvxuvW/vN/6bsqLsXZswGVV2+i3kv4HmOEBMVPwzounoA3P7L73 b7wLxiJvbIF3fld9Dcyy577U+pJ/qhXla8yss/Vs9Wmfc7id7GtVoJtrcQ7qqxm2 JiRn7W1A2YIvNQqMizUxOnoGnazkp6rMBCYvV6wTb2MCbQ8U/BLBGw== =X33F -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: A vote of confidence for Sandy
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:18 AM 1/11/97 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: >Bill Frantz wrote: ... >> Let me rant a bit about the "ideal" moderation structure. Igor Chudov's >> software lets people like Matt Blase and Bruce Schneier post whatever they >> want. (I would add people like Black Unicorn as well. YMMV) Other posts >> go into a pool accessible to all moderators. If one moderator approves, >> the message goes out. If N reject, it is rejected. These rejections could >> either be anonymous or be included in an x-moderators-rejecting: header for >> the "worst of cypherpunks" list. > >I think that Bill proposes a very interesting idea. His suggestion would >eliminate a lot of [well-grounded] suspicion about arbitrary rejections >at a "whim" of moderators. > >My only concern is that there will be more work for moderators, because >in his scheme each "bad" message has to be reviewed by N people instead >of 1. > >It is a tradeoff between a more liberal policy and efficient use of >moderators' time. As long as a number of moderators have access, then why not also include in the header information the number of available moderators that gave the content a "thumbs up". If this were tacked on to the front of the subject field, (for people like me whor are using Eudora Lite), then messages could be chosen, by the readers, based on the number of moderators that gave it approval. Ideally, a relatively large number of moderators would be on hand so that the scale would be an accurate cross-reference of the groups opinions.

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Re: Comments on moderation
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:28 AM 1/11/97 -0800, Dale Thorn wrote: >Alan Olsen wrote: ... >> I >> have seen little evidence that the doom they predict is going to happen. > >Did you really want to say "no evidence", but were just hedging your bet? This is not intended to place me on either side of this issue, but, by referring to personal experiences, he does not need to hedge his bet. Just an observation.

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Newt's phone calls
by Clay Olbon II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just caught the news reports of Newt Gingrich's cell phone calls being taped by "a little old retired couple" with a scanner. These were then given to a congressman, who gave them to a newspaper. The take on this that we won't hear is: "This is outrageous! Why don't cell-phones offer encryption to ensure our privacy?" Unfortunately, I think crypto is still so far beneath the public consciousness that the obvious solution to these sorts of problems is ignored in favor of the "there oughta be a law" non-solution. (Of course, in this case there is a law!) What I really hope this incident spawns is a market ... Clay ******************************************************* Clay Olbon olbon(a)ix.netcom.com sys-admin, engineer, programmer, statistitian, etc. **********************************************tanstaafl

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Diehard can be found at.
by AaronH4321＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I found this address for it after a couple of tries getting to the "Diehard.html" site. I couldn't connect to that. This FTP site works though. I found it at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bob_jenkins/testsfor.htm To qoute, "An excellent test of random sequences is DIEHARD, maintained by George Marsaglia. You get it by ftp from stat.fsu.edu, login anonymous, cd pub, cd diehard, then get what you want. NOTE: George needs you to send him mail at geo(a)stat.fsu.edu when you download it so he can keep getting grants to support his excellent work." Aaron.

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Multi-drop quantum cryptography article in Nature 385, 47-49 (1997)
by Paul Pomes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Reproduced from <http://www.nature.com>) Eavesdropping on the line Secure electronic communication is becoming increasingly important. In recent years, quantum cryptography has been investigated as a means of detecting eavesdroppers on private lines. When quantum mechanical processes are used to establish the 'key' used for encryption and decryption, any eavesdropping during transmission leads to an unavoidable and detectable disturbance in the received key information. This technique has been demonstrated to be effective on standard communication lines between two users, but Paul D. Townsend now introduces a practical scheme for a multi-user network. This work demonstrates the technical feasibility of quantum cryptography for practical applications. P D Townsend Quantum cryptography on multi-user optical fibre networks (Letter to Nature) Nature 385, 47-49 (1997)

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Re: New US regs ban downloadable data-security software
by Ian Goldberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green said: > The new US crypto export regulations control the export of most if not all > data-security software. Regardless if the software uses cryptography or > not. Many software archives seem to be in violation of the new regs. > > <snip> > > This certainly controls virus checkers, firewalls, and other security > software. There are substantial penalties involved in violating the EAR. > The US can assess daily penalties and block all exports of a company's > non-violating products. Criminal penalties apply as well. > > "Export", as defined in the new regs, includes making software available on > the web or via ftp. After _very_ careful reading of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) (though IANAL), it would seem that the above is slightly inaccurate. Although, as Lucky pointed out, virus checkers et al. are indeed regulated for export from the US, and putting software up for ftp or WWW is considered export, the EAR does _not_ apply to "publicly available" software (732.2(b)(1)). Software is publicly available "when it is available for general distribution either for free or at a price that does not exceed the cost of reproduction and distribution" (734.7(b)). Therefore, it would seem that, as long as the security software on your ftp or WWW site is free of cost, it is OK to keep it there. Commercial security software, however, remains export-restricted. NOTE, however, that products that actually do contain cryptography fall under an exception (734.7(c)): "Notwithstanding paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, note that encryption software controlled under ECCN 5D002 for ``EI'' reasons on the Commerce Control List (refer to Supplement No. 1 to part 774 of the EAR) remains subject to the EAR even when publicly available." The software controlled for EI reasons under 5D002 are described as: "EI controls apply to encryption software transferred from the U.S. Munitions List to the Commerce Control List consistent with E.O. 13026 of November 15, 1996 (61 FR 58767) and pursuant to the Presidential Memorandum of that date. Refer to Sec. 742.15 of the EAR." As virus checkers et al. were not on the Munitions List, they are not controlled for EI (Encryption Items) reasons, but rather for NS (National Security) and AT (Anti-Terrorism) reasons. The RISKS: the government suddenly creating (and putting into effect) new rules covering large amounts of software, without warning or (in my opinion) justification. - Ian "again, IANAL"

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Network Neighbor
by mailbox＠softcell.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: New US regs ban downloadable data-security software
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If the 5D002 reasons find no exception for EI under Sec 742.15 (d) inconsistent with E.O. 13026 (61 FR 58767), then does the NS go the way of AT, or this just become a NNI? The RISKS: the government suddenly creating (and putting into effect) new subparagraphs using large numbers of new acronyms, without warning or (in my opinion) justification. .. Blanc (LOL)

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: And she's no blond.....
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: New US regs ban downloadable data-security software
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:45 PM 1/13/97 -0800, Ian Goldberg wrote: >After _very_ careful reading of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) >(though IANAL), it would seem that the above is slightly inaccurate. [...] >Therefore, it would seem that, as long as the security software on your ftp >or WWW site is free of cost, it is OK to keep it there. Commercial >security software, however, remains export-restricted. I concur with Ian Goldberg's careful analysis (thanks, Ian!) that *freeware* data security software that does not use cryptography is indeed not covered under the new regs. Commercial data security software of any kind, regardless if it uses crypto or not, is however prohibited from being distributed via the Internet or being exported by any other means. Note that such software was explicitly exempt from export regulations under the old ITAR. Now it is explicitly included in the EAR. I fail to see a rationale behind this change. But then, I fail to see the rationale behind the entire ITAR/EAR scheme. As always, IANAL, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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