December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Economics Quest
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Andrew(a)mail.demon.net wrote: > > Hi, My name is Andrew, I'm 15, I live in the UK and I'm studing economics > at standard grade level. Can you please spare a few minutes of your valuable > time to answer my questionaire @ > http://www.alexanderhomes.demon.co.uk/economics/personal.html > I have constructed it as part of my standard grade course work, so I'm relying on > your co-operation! ;-) Andrew, I wouldn't worry too much about getting good grades in your standard grade economics class. After all, your questionaire looks so much like a professionally produced one that I am sure you don't need my help to pass your class. However, I will answer your questions, just the same. ******************************* In which country do you live? # The one outside of the city. How long have you had access to the Internet? # I logged on about ten minutes ago. Are you influenced by online advertisement? No Yes # Yo! What age are you? # Age of Aquarius. Please specify your income range # $ 0.00 --> $ 0.37 Have you ever purchased a service over the Internet? No Yes # Nes! Have you ever purchased a good over the internet? No Yes # Yoe! If so Please specify the average price range of the good(s) you have bought over the Internet # $ 1,347,879,992.17 How often do you buy goods over the Internet? # Never always. Do you have any security worries about purchasing a good over the Internet? No Yes # Why do you ask? Which of the following items do you find most important when buying goods over the Internet? Delivery time Price Quality of service # X Free XXXX Pictures what type of good/service would you be willing to actually buy via the Internet? Computer Software Computer Hardware Household Durables Office Products Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds Airline Tickets Catalog Goods Boutique Clothing Household Bills Shipping Special Internet Services Music/Video Entertainment Other # MLM Opportunities What is the biggest limiting factor stopping you from buying more on the Internet? Delivery time Goods offered cost of delivery Security Price other, please state # Imprisonment for fraud.

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And they're all CypherPunks...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Q. You said cows hate spinach, barn owls snore, and spiders can't chew. But have you forgotten female goats have beards? A. Quite so. Do remember, though, elephants get flat feet, moths hear through their hair, and starfish have no brains. I also vividly recall that yaks give pink milk. ============================================== LMBoyd Web Site / U. S. Newspapers / Start Email / Stop Email http://www.LMBoyd.com/postscript.htm

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The optional penis smiled as the blue arc-phase crossed the scamper gap. There were many of us who felt gloved by the discharge, as if irradiated with baby milk powder. Later, the arc-monster cried quietly in the humming chair, whilst remaining still enough for the scamper gloves to plunge authoritatively. - A'Tak A'Tdorn

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Open the Floodgates / Re: Commerce Department encryption rules declared unconstitutional
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh wrote: > Patel barred the government from "threatening, detaining, > prosecuting, discouraging, or otherwise interfering with" anyone > "who uses, discusses, or publishes or seeks to use, discuss or > publish plaintiff's encryption programs and related materials." Related materials such as PGP Source Code?

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BXA Meet in Portland OR
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Any chance someone NW can attend this and report? Federal Register: August 25, 1997 (Volume 62, Number 164) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE Bureau of Export Administration Regulations and Procedures Technical Advisory Committee; Notice of Open Meeting A meeting of the Regulations and Procedures Technical Advisory Committee will be held September 23, 1997, 9:00 a.m., in the Plaza Room of the Portland World Trade Center, 25 S.W. Salmon, Portland, Oregon. The Committee advises the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Export Administration on implementation of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) and provides for continuing review to update the EAR as needed. Agenda 1. Opening remarks by the Chairwoman. 2. Presentation of papers or comments by the public. 3. Update on Bureau of Export Administration initiatives: <bullet> Draft encryption regulation. <bullet> Status of Wassenaar Arrangement implementation regulation. <bullet> Efforts to harmonize the Foreign Trade Statistics Regulations and the Export Administration Regulations in regards to the filing of Shipper's Export Declarations. 4. Discussion of European, Japanese, and U.S. export controls in regards to ``catch-all'' proliferation controls, Wassenaar Arrangement controls, encryption items, and the hiring of foreign nationals. The meeting will be open to the public and a limited number of seats will be available. To the extent time permits, members of the public may present oral statements to the Committee. Written statements may be submitted at any time before or after the meeting. However, to facilitate distribution of public presentation materials to Committee members, the Committee suggests that presenters forward the public presentation materials, two weeks prior to the meeting date, to the following address: Ms. Lee Ann Carpenter, TAC Unit/OAS-EA, MS: 3886C, Bureau of Export Administration, U.S. Department of Commerce, Washington, D.C. 20230. For further information or copies of the minutes, contact Lee Ann Carpenter on (202) 482-2583. Dated: August 19, 1997. Lee Ann Carpenter, Director, Technical Advisory Committee Unit. [FR Doc. 97-22425 Filed 8-22-97; 8:45 am]

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Re: Forgery, bills, and the Four Horsemen (Articles and Comment)
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) > So it is harder to compile dosiers on people. Big deal. The recipient can > still determine who gets the goods paied for by the "anonymous" ecash by > conventional means (hint: shipping address), so the payee anonymity is of > little value as far as protecting the privacy of the payer (most likely > the recipient of the goods) is concerened. This would be true for physical goods in any payment system, no matter how anonymous, unless physical remailers are used (and they have their limitations). However software (including music, video, etc.) would be easier to deliver anonymously. It is generally agreed that more of our economy is moving towards information exchanges and so ecash-like systems can play an increasingly larger part in protecting privacy. To me, this is indeed a big deal. Even for physical goods, the use of ecash is better than credit cards because the information about purchases is distributed rather than centralized. Every time I look at my credit card bill I feel dismayed at what the company is finding out about my family. Ecash could also be used as a cash replacement in smartcards. Consider as an alternative a fully traceable payment system, where you use your debit card at the supermarket, the bus station, the snack bar, the drug store. I suspect that if we don't get something like ecash then this system will be the alternative. It opens up possibilities for dossiers that will fulfill Big Brother's dreams. Virtually every move of every citizen will be recorded in just a few centralized places. IMO the protection of payor privacy that even Chaum's limited ecash provides is very important. > Ecash of course is of *no* value for the various assasination markets, > drug dealing, money laundring, etc that routinely get mentioned in the > same paragraph as Ecash. The reason is the *full traceability* of the > payee that has been deliberately built into the current version of Ecash. > A "feature" that you may rest assured will be part of all future versions > backed by anyone with even marginal reputation in the financial markets. Well, I have never fully accepted the notion that crypto was going to usher in an age of anarchy. As long as we deal with physical goods in the physical world it seems to me that anonymity will be difficult. On the net it is easier but man does not live by bits alone. For me, protecting privacy is a difficult enough problem. Transforming the world into a libertarian/anarchist utopia is somebody else's job. Hal P.S. Without seeing the technical specs it is hard to describe in detail, but generally Chaumian ecash allows fully anonymous coerced transfers. The payee/coercer supplies the blinded coins and forces the payor to use them to make withdrawals from his account. The resulting signed tokens are passed to the coercer who unblinds them and now has fully anonymous, untraceable cash tokens which he can spend.

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Re: Forgery, bills, and the Four Horsemen (Articles and Comment)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:32 9/5/95, Bryce Wilcox wrote: >I hope I'm not missing anything here. Only that Ecash has no benefits for transactions that are of an illegal nature. The meaning of "illegal" is of course increasing as new laws are passed every session of the legislature. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: lack of evolution (So What!)
by Feanor 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Aug 25, 21:41, Ray Arachelian wrote: } Subject: Re: lack of evolution (So What!) > > On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Peter Trei wrote: > > > One factor which everyone seems to be overlooking in this > > thread is the future impact of biotechnology. > > <much stuff deleted> > > I see someone's been recently reading Beyond This Horizon by Heinlein. :) Sounded a lot more like Sterling/Crystal Express, the Shaper/Mechanist section, to me. -- #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)

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Re: Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by an253398＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

announce(a)xs4all.nl writes: [ snip ] > Police and members of Scientology church enter offices of XS4ALL > ================================================================ > > Amsterdam - thuesday september 5, 1995. > > Today at about 14:00, XS4ALL was visited by Mr. S. Braan, > bailiff. He was acting on behalf of the Religious > Technology Centre, better known as the Scientology Church, or > Scientology for short. He was assisted by a local police officer and Mr. > Hermans from the 'Nauta-Dutilh' legal firm that represents Scientology > in The Netherlands. Also present were two computer experts (Mr. Ootjes > and Mr. Van Suchtelen) a locksmith (to enter had we not been present) and > two American employees of Scientology, Mr. Weightman and Ms. Jenssen. [ snip ] This is the second or third time I've seen descriptions of such raids where cult (no, I'm not trying to be diplomatic) representatives were present and participating. Is this legal in Amsterdam? How about in the U.S.? Britain? If a police officer has a warrant then I really don't have much choice about letting him in. Am I also under an obligation to allow the people who filed for the warrant into my home or business? Thanks, Mole Rat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: Make Money Fast
by Feanor 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Aug 25, 15:02, Bruce Schneier wrote: } Subject: Make Money Fast > This should be fun for someone: > > > HACKERS VIE FOR $1-MILLION REWARD > Austin, Texas start-up Crypto-Logic Corp. has offered a $1-million reward to > whomever can crack its new e-mail encryption system within a year. > Cryptologists generally agree that Crypto-Logic's technology, called a > "one-time pad" is theoretically uncrackable -- each "pad" has a set of > uniquely random digital symbols that are coded to the actual message. The > recipient uses the same pad to decode the message, and each pad is used only > once. Still, experts are warning never to underestimate the tenacity of > computer hackers: "Anyone who says their system is bulletproof is either a > liar or stupid," says one. "If I'm wrong," says Crypto-Logic's VP and COO, > "we're out of business." http://www.ultimateprivacy.com I've looked at this, there are two problems: 1. The message is in [A-Za-z0-9!@#$%^&*()] ASCII. The translation scheme is undisclosed. 2. The message is, apparently, compressed to some proprietary standard. So, someone's going to have to hack disassembly to get this message into binary. Once that's done, we can start bruting it. -- #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)

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Non-Delivery Notification
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is this shit? Got about ten today. --- begin forwarded text From: sysop(a)dkmail.dkeep.com To: shamrock(a)netcom.com Subject: Non-Delivery Notification Organization: Dragon Keep (904) 375-3500 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 95 00:05:41 EST NON-DELIVERY NOTICE ------------------- The message you sent on: Unknown to -unknown was undeliverable. ========================= !!! Automated Notice !!! ======================= E-mail replies to this user should have the following on the first line of message text: TO: -unknown ========================================================================== --- end forwarded text -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Growth of actions definded as crime. Which math formula?
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:56 9/5/95, Black Unicorn wrote: rypted mail preferred. > >Really it's hard to answer this because what constitutes a "NEW" act is a >real question in and of itself. > >For example, wire fraud. Is it a "NEW" crime? Or just a subset of >fraud, or mail fraud? If they guy would have gotten away before the new law was passed, it is a new crime. That's the stats I am looking for. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Email privacy in Dutch constitution
by Alex Le Heux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Aloha, In the Dutch constitution it says that (snail) mail is personal and private. It is illegal to open mail. Except of course with the usual warrants. And there used to be a special division of the PTT (the Dutch phone/mail company) that had the right to open mail that couldn't be delivered or had other problems. These people had to take all kinds of oaths. On the whole it wasn't easy to (legally) read someone else's mail. There is currently a proposal to change the constitution(1) so that email is specifically included in this. I'll attempt a translation of the article here (the original can be found at http://www.pi.net/computer/multim/21-8-97/mm21-8-97a.html) - --- BEGIN --- Privacy of encrypted email - -------------------------- Email will be part of the 'privacy of letters' (== briefgeheim) as is written down in the constitution, if the proposal passes through parliament, and the new parliament in 1998. The government says this needs to be done as the old law is obsolete. Also, since the Dutch PTT has been privatised there is no minesterial control anymore. The two most important parts are: 1. The right to communicate privately is inalienable, except in cases described by law, by those who are appointed by law. 2. The law describes rules to protect private communications. The law seems strange when seen from a multimedia perspective. Video/images will, in principle not be protected by it, as it is neither written text or spoken word. If the video/images are meant for a limited group of people, for example when communicating through lip-reading (?), it will be protected. Faxes and unencrypted email will not be protected, as those are like postcards. Also information about the communications, like the fact that email has been sent, should not be protected according to the government. The point is that persons can communicate in private, and that this is clear. The sender will have to use encryption to indicate that secrecy is wanted, otherwise the communications will not be protected (by this law). Telephone conversations will also be private, except in the case of someone being withing earshot of it. Changes in the constitution have to be approved by to consecutive parliaments. So it will take at least a year before this proposal will have the force of law. - --- END --- Hmm... Looking back at this translation, I don't think it's very good. But it'll have to do for now. I'll post any other relevant information I find. I wonder if this will be the first constitution in the world that'll mention encryption specifically... Alex (1) To change the constitution in The Netherlands, the parliament has to vote on it, then there have to be new elections, and then the new parliament has to vote on it as well. This is to (try to) ensure that governments do not change the constitution on a whim. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNAF4N9uYAh4dUSo/EQJC2wCeNdu+LscGWu8LVHRviiTuS81kQiQAnAm5 tzI7B5+wPTI6n+Elzoag08PI =WNZ+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Forgery, bills, and the Four Horsemen (Articles and Comment)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 22:42 9/5/95, Bryce Wilcox wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >I, Bryce Wilcox <bryce.wilcox(a)colorado.edu> wrote: >> >> >I hope I'm not missing anything here. > > >shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) wrote: >> >> Only that Ecash has no benefits for transactions that are of an illegal >> nature. The meaning of "illegal" is of course increasing as new laws are >> passed every session of the legislature. > > >Chaum says that (especially when speaking before U.S. Congress) but I think >he is playing both sides of the fence. He is a die-hard privacy advocate who >allegedly turns down lucrative business deals because he feels they would >dilute his privacy achievements. The truth is that Chaumian DigiCash is a >*lot* safer for criminals than, say, credit cards, and when it is combined >with the other tools in a money launderer's toolbox, I expect it will be a >great boon to them. Chaum is a privacy advocate when it comes to companies compiling dosiers on you. When it comes to criminal use, my conversations with Chaum, his public comments, and last not least the current implementation of his software suggest otherwise. > >Suppose you have acquired a million dollars worth of legal, above-board >DigiCash dollars and you want to surreptitiously transfer this wealth to a >below-board friend. Your friend creates a temporary anonymous account at an >understanding bank. Y Won't work. Ecash, except as used for frequent flyer like points, will exist in only *one* world wide e$ currency, issued by a single entity composed of various major banks and subject to US laws. Getting Ecash accounts will therefore be subject to the same legal requirenments that apply to normal US checking accounts. >Now without active physical surveillance, nobody other than yourself and your >friend will ever know where the money went, and you can't prove that you gave >it to him, either... You or a sting operation can always reveal the recipient by publishing the blinding factor. Besides, your Ecash client keeps a log of the payees. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Crypto '95
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry asked for an overview of Crypto '95. I missed the rump session, so hopefully someone else will write about that. The best talks were probably by Ross Anderson (Robustness Principles for Public Key Protocols) and Adi Shamir (Myths and Realities of Cryptography). Since Anderson's paper is in the proceedings, I won't rehash it here, but Shamir's talk is not, I present his 10 commandments of Commercial Security: 1. Don't aim for perfect security. 2. Don't solve the wrong problem. 3. Don't try to sell security bottom up. 4. Don't use cryptographic overkill. 5. Don't make it complicated. 6. Don't make it expensive. 7. Don't use a single line of defense. 8. Don't forget the mystery attack. (Know how to regenerate security when you don't know whats going wrong.) 9. Don't trust systems. 10. Don't trust people. In other news: Richard Schroeppel, Hillarie Orman (and others) presented some speedups to elliptic curve systems, based on fast calculation of reciprocals. The speedup is about a factor of 3. There were some interesting analysis of RC5, SAFER-K64. Bruce Dodsen and Arjen Lenstra presented some interesting results running NFS with four large primes. From their abstract: "[factoring with 2 large primes] completion time can quite accurately be predicted...For NFS such extrapolations seem to be impossible--the number o useful combinations suddenly `explodes' in an as yet unpredictable way, that we have not yet been able to understand completely. The consequence of this is that NFS factoring is substantially faster than expected, which implies that factoring is somewhat easier than we thought." Please note that that doesn't mean RSA has been broken, or that they can factor products of large primes in their heads. It means that there are speedups possible, but not enough that anyone should be worrying about a 1024 bit key. The best quote of the conference was doubtless Robert Morris, Sr, reminding us of the first rule of cryptanalysis, "Don't forget to look for plaintext." Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Church of Cryptology
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Church of Cryptology, established by Brother D'Shauneaux in 1919, resents the attempts of the U.S. government to criminalize our most closely held religious beliefs. Cryptography is well documented in the Bible, from the Tower of Babel to talking in tongues, and any infringement on our right to communicate in tongues constitutes religious oppression. Accordingly, the Church of Cryptology would like to acknowledge those who have suffered persecution in their efforts to spead cryptology as Saints for the Holy Cause. The Primary Religious Elected Zeus, our current leader, would like to assure all Cypherpunks that they will be granted special dispensation for any acts of Holy War they perform in the cause of strong encryption.

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Re: Are booby-trapped computers legal?
by michaelb＠primenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:43 PM 9/5/95 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: <snip> >>As far as I know the owner of property has no legal right to kill a person >>either traspassing or stealing it in any of the 50 states. There was a >>recent federal ruling that basicly says that if you meet a burglar in your >>home at nite you can not kill or otherwise harm them unless you're life is >>directly threatened. In short, you MUST give up the ground if at all >>possible. Federal and all 50 states (as far as I have been able to >>determine) rule human life to have a inherantly higher value than property >>of any type (this does not apply to government institutions). > <snip> The laws regarding the use of deadly force against an unarmed burglar in one's home vary from state to state. In Massachusetts, for example, a homeowner has a DUTY to retreat from his own home before employing deadly force against an intruder. In Arizona, however, we prefer a much different approach. 13-411. Justification; use of force in crime prevention A. A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if an to the extent the person reasonably believes that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's commission of ... burglary in the second or first degree under section 13-1507 ... 13-1507. Burglary in the second degree; classification A. A person commits burglary in the second degree by entering or remaining unlawfully in or on a residential structure with the intent to commit any theft or any felony therein. michaelb(a)primenet.com

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Re: Growth of actions definded as crime. Which math formula?
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:00 9/6/95, Black Unicorn wrote: >> If they guy would have gotten away before the new law was passed, it is a >> new crime. > >This is very rare. It's mostly in definitional cases, for example, where >Extacy was just not defined as a controlled substance some years ago. > >Created crimes are few and far between. Excurse my ignorance, but it just begs the question. Why then all the new laws? Just to twist the penalty screw another turn? Confused, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: List Subscriptions / Re: Prior Restraint on Publishers (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 01:22:48 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: List Subscriptions / Re: Prior Restraint on Publishers > I've been sending nearly all of my posts to either the algebra.com or the > cyberpass.net addresses, and the toad.com address is set to expire, or so > John told us when he gave us a deadline for finding another site. I've > mentioned this a couple of times, and yet some of you seem to think the > toad.com address is the preferred, fastest one. > > Would some of the operators of the distributed lists comment on the time > delays, on the topology of the interlinked distributed list, and on what > role, if any, toad.com continues to play in the process? Igor, Lance, Jim, > John? Not shure exactly how to answer this as I don't really measure it but I will pass along my experience and describe the network on this end... einstein.ssz.com is a 486DX2 80 linked via ISDN to a FDDI/T3/T1 backed up'ed link to the major SprintNet and MCI backbone here in Austin, Tx. Our typical physical latency is about 30mS taken from the average of a continous ping that I use as a baseline. When Majordomo receives a submission it then immediately resends it. Assuming the pipe ain't clogged and I run about 15% use with an all time max of about 90%. Usualy, taken from listening to the hard drive chatter, the resend latency is about 30s to 5m when the pipe gets heavily used. Typical peak usage is very sporadic and never lasts more than 5 minutes or so. There are two other small networks dialed in 28.8 that are the major driver of the intermittent loads. One is a commercial video business and the other is a local Amiga/NT/Mac/Linux BBS (Phantoms Mansion, oldest surviving bbs in Austin, in existance since '82. I started in '83). Our current expansion plans are to take the main pipe to a T1 sometime toward the end of next month. We will then upgrade the dial-ins to ISDN and adding a intermittent ISDN dial-in along with 2 28.8 dial-ins. The two dedicated dial-ins will also be expanding to ISDN and I am adding another dedicated ISDN customer network as well. SSZ has been on ISDN since Oct. of '92 and in that time we have been down for more than hours on two occassions. The first was on Mar. 20, 1995 when one of my lodgers managed to burn the house down. The second was around last New Year when I moved and SWBT couldn't move the ISDN for 21 days. We used a 28.8 during that time and physical latency was about 150mS or so. The current move scheduled for about 3 weeks away is expected to be accomplished in less than an hour so hopefuly nobody will even notice... I currently only echo messages to algebra.com because their the only ones who've asked. We currently are subscribed to toad.com and algebra.com. We have an open subscription policy meaning all it takes is an inquiry... Currently the only reason there would be a significant delay is that we on occassion have majordomo barf on itself and erase the subscribers list. But we have a backup and it only takes a cp to get it back up, this process is not automated - hence the delay. Considering the old versions of Linux and Majordomo (nearly 4 years old) this is remarkable to me since it is the only major glitch in the software. We are expecting to upgrade einstein to a Pentium box with much newer software during next month as well. Our policy on submissions to the list is one of complete hands-off except for checking for duplicates and loops. Other boxes that are intermittently available through SSZ and drive our load are: newton.ssz.com Pentium running Linux and is the router for our Elgin, Tx. expansion site expected to come online before the new year permanently. hawking.ssz.com Being built for the Lockheart, Tx. expansion slated for next summer. godzilla.ssz.com Sun Sparc ELC running Solaris 2.5 intended as a IRC server and should be permanently online toward the end of next month. kingkong.ssz.com Tadpole 3XP laptop running Solaris 2.5 and is a personal workstation. smoke.ssz.com Amiga Video Toaster used as a personal graphics workstation, it also intermittently feeds real-time video. Named after 'Smoke Jaguar' the last great Aztec king before the Spaniards arrived. dustworks.ssz.com 486DX3 100 running Win95 used as a personal workstation. tesla.ssz.com Pentium II running Win95 used as a personal workstation. escher.ssz.com Pentium running Linux used to grab resume's off the web via spiders. Once a day but when it runs its load is about 80% and lasts for around 5 minutes with several minutes between bursts (intentional behaviour) and lasts for about an hour, scheduled for early AM. cthulhu.ssz.com Intended to support a data haven project being developed by the owner of the dh-l data haven mailing list. There you go, hope it helps better understand the SSZ site at least. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Forgery, bills, and the Four Horsemen (Articles and Comment)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <199509060432.VAA05003(a)jobe.shell.portal.com>, hfinney(a)shell.portal.com (Hal) wrote: >P.S. Without seeing the technical specs it is hard to describe in detail, >but generally Chaumian ecash allows fully anonymous coerced transfers. >The payee/coercer supplies the blinded coins and forces the payor to use >them to make withdrawals from his account. The resulting signed >tokens are passed to the coercer who unblinds them and now has fully >anonymous, untraceable cash tokens which he can spend. Assuming it can be done (I am checking), he would also have a large balance on his non-anoymous Ecash account that he would have a very hard time explaining to the IRS, FINsomething [sorry, forgot the name], and other interested and certainly to be involved parties. Cyberspace is much closer connected to the real world as many people on this list, myself included, would like to think it is. - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBME1B1SoZzwIn1bdtAQF7FwGAgqmPsLaol1LbR2zb+FI7nmYDlp7BY91G SsT6iJukYmiKzcmG4YNPtGJ8QCrUGkZo =CNiP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <9509060434.AA09596(a)anon.penet.fi>, an253398(a)anon.penet.fi (Mole Rat) wrote: > This is the second or third time I've seen descriptions of such > raids where cult (no, I'm not trying to be diplomatic) > representatives were present and participating. Is this legal in > Amsterdam? How about in the U.S.? Britain? > > If a police officer has a warrant then I really don't have much > choice about letting him in. Am I also under an obligation to > allow the people who filed for the warrant into my home or > business? I doubt it. Get a good attorney. - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBME1CaSoZzwIn1bdtAQGGyAF7BojcAMnxvfMcyJSWLHlJe0d0QezwdVGZ paDopX2LMcxjuUgupNXgF1GwRPbvx2dl =Dstl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord ?"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{"cracker"} = "<remailer(a)anon.efga.org> cpunk mix remix pgp hash ksub esub latent cut ek reord post"; $remailer{'redneck'} = '<config(a)anon.efga.org> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"bureau42"} = "<remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org> cpunk mix pgp ksub hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"neva"} = "<remailer(a)neva.org> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub ?"; $remailer{"lcs"} = "<mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> mix"; $remailer{"medusa"} = "<medusa(a)weasel.owl.de> mix middle" $remailer{"McCain"} = "<mccain(a)notatla.demon.co.uk> mix middle"; $remailer{"valdeez"} = "<valdeez(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"arrid"} = "<arrid(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"hera"} = "<goddesshera(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"htuttle"} = "<h_tuttle(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp hash latent cut post ek"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix reno winsock) (weasel squirrel medusa) (cracker redneck) (nym lcs) (valdeez arrid hera) The remailer list here has been out of date for some time, but should be up to date now. I'm still working on updating the web page. Last update: Mon 25 Aug 97 6:48:42 PDT remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- redneck config(a)anon.efga.org *#+**###*#+# 1:42 99.99% nym config(a)nym.alias.net +++###*+#+## 4:24 99.99% cracker remailer(a)anon.efga.org +++++-++++++ 20:07 99.97% weasel config(a)weasel.owl.de +--+--+--+++ 1:52:17 99.96% arrid arrid(a)juno.com +-++-++---- 2:57:11 99.90% hera goddesshera(a)juno.com ----------.- 8:59:19 99.89% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net --+-------+ 4:22:37 99.83% bureau42 remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org -----------+ 2:38:44 99.75% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net ++**+**+**++ 14:02 99.74% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com ++*++**++++ 20:35 99.67% replay remailer(a)replay.com + *** * +*** 6:51 99.18% valdeez valdeez(a)juno.com +---------- 9:25:25 99.06% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de ----------- 3:45:55 98.53% jam remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca ---** *+++++ 52:44 97.92% neva remailer(a)neva.org ---****** +# 28:32 97.63% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net ++--+ + +- 46:04 94.86% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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Re: Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anon.penet.fi succinctly scribed: > If a police officer has a warrant then I really don't have much > choice about letting him in. Am I also under an obligation to > allow the people who filed for the warrant into my home or > business? The aren't, but they do, and only a good civil rights lawyer can help you out of the resulting quagmire. It's done in a lot of civil cases, particularly where restraining orders are used. Love ALways, Carol Anne -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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Re: SSLRef (SSLtelnet)
by an5877＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Verisign is a spin off of RSA. Verisign, Inc. (VERISIGN-DOM) 100 Marine Parkway, Suite 525 Redwood City, CA 94065 Domain Name: VERISIGN.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Taylor, Simon (ST192) simon(a)RSA.COM (415) 508-1151 Record last updated on 21-Jun-95. DEADBEAT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBFAgUBME0AO/FZTpBW/B35AQFdLAGAiV1RqNmLh5W+uuHeKsXX/819qK5WTq3Y TobFKWLxkTjkEwDs6Js7UB2PFRnt6gDk =HEHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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I've got a Volvo (and I'm not afraid to use it!)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz 'The fight's over. There's no one left to fight' "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged" On June 4, 1997 the trial of the only Viper Militia defendant to face a jury -- after months in jail, 10 have pleaded guilty to one charge or another, while one still awaits trial -- got underway before Judge Earl H. Carroll in the federal district courthouse in downtown Phoenix. ... Defense attorney Ivan Abrams objected to the government's hauling machine guns belonging to other Vipers into the courtroom, since Knight was not charged with owning any such weapons. Objection overruled. I told Knight I'd heard that some of the "unregistered machine guns" presented by the prosecution had actually been built by the government out of spare parts found at the homes of the various militia members. "This is the way the law reads: If they can take parts and with eight hours of professional work by professional gunsmiths working full time in Washington, D.C., make it fire more than one round, then it was a machine gun. There was a guy who published a magazine piece on this a couple of years ago, a guy who took a wrecked Volvo and in about seven hours made a weapon that would fire four or five rounds. So by the legal definition used in this case the Volvo was, technically, a machine gun. We're talking about professional gunsmiths, with access to sophisticated machine shops."

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