December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Alert: European Union Bank
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: themet(a)pop.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:11:07 -0700 To: fraudnews(a)silverquick.com From: Mark Taylor <null(a)silverquick.com> Subject: Alert: European Union Bank Reply-to: Mark Taylor <themet(a)mindspring.com> The European Union Bank, which advertised for customers on the internet and operated out of Antigua, is closed and a fraud alert has been issued by the government of Antigua. The founders of the bank, Serbveo Ushakov, allegedly of Bronxville, New York, and Vietalui Papsouev of Richmond Hill, are missing. The government says the two are Russian nationals. Employees of the bank were fired last week and a recorded phone message states that the bank is temporarily closed. The banks internet site at The bank's Internet site ( http://www.eubank.ag ) is no longer functioning. The government of Antigua has appointed Coopers & Lybrand do a full audit of the bank. On May 30 the Idaho Department of Finance ordered European Union to stop soliciting deposits from Idaho residents over the Internet. The state alleged that since the bank operated without a state or federal charter that it was operating illegally. Last week that the Bank of England warned investors last fall about depositing funds in European Union Bank. There is no word yet on how many people deposited money in this bank and how much money is missing. The government of Antigua states it is cracking down on banks with alleged connections to Russian mobsters. FraudNews is owned and published by : Mark Taylor: themet(a)mindspring.com All material published is copyright.It must not be reproduced in any form without the express permission of of the owner. ============================================================= This Newsletter is broadcast using the List and Newsletter Management facilities of Silverquick Communications You may subscribe to FraudNews and the Fraud-Discuss lists on the web pages at : http://www.silverquick.com ============================================================= --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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17 Dec '03

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New Thread? / Re: Apology from me to the list and TruthMonger
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

David Downey wrote: > > LOL, all right, all right. I'll take my lickings and like it. OK. Now that we've got that settled, what shall we talk about next, Abortion or Ebonics? > I do not > know how to word where I stand because I take a little from each side as > to what is the correct way to handle these issues. On its face, this is not an unreasonable concept. As I see it, the reason for the 'Fuck Compromise' stance being so heartily proclaimed on the list is not because CypherPunks see compromise as inherently evil, but because of the recognition that compromise that is beneficial to both parties requires honesty and integrity on the part of both parties. Compromise at the point of a gun is weakness, not wisdom, and every step one loses is twice as hard to regain in the future. The classic example is Hitler, who "only wanted Austria." Then he "only wanted Poland." The government claimed they only wanted to ban the *bad* guns, but as Tim May pointed out, now it is theoretically illegal in some places for a citizen to carry a paring knife home from the store. Of course, in practice, these laws will only be used against *bad* people. Mary Tyler Moore has nothing to worry about. > I believe in fighting for what one believes in. I firmly > believe in protecting the children and guiding them towards an > understanding of today's world in *all* it trappings. I am also unsure > as to the correct and "right" way to do this. I am open to suggestions, > and am willing to openly contribute my own. The fallacy that creates more problems than it solves is that there *is* a "right" way to do things. Life is a crapshoot, and the most we can hope for is to use our best judgement to minimize whatever ill effects might occur as the result of haphazard circumstance. Sadly, our society has been moving further and further toward a fascist, control-freak mentality which dictates that there are clear lines between right and wrong actions, attitudes and beliefs. Even more sadly, society is crying out for stiff punishment in every niggardly aspect of life, including the areas which are beyond the control of those involved. An example is the woman in New York (?) who went to get food for her baby, and the dog killed/ate the baby while she was gone. The masses called for her head on a platter and she was charged with manslaughter (or whatever). I am certain that those who could afford a nanny to take care of their children had enough time on their hands to write a letter to the editor to call for the woman's imprisonment. I would not be surprised to find that some of those letters to the editor were of the opinion that, if the mother had no bread for the baby, then she should have let the baby "eat cake." I couldn't help but think of this poor woman who had lost the child that she was trying to feed and nurture. Did she need to be 'punished' because her options were limited by her position in life? I don't know all the details of her situation, but I do know that neither the media nor the masses seemed to care about the details--they just wanted blood. I would wager that there are far more children who die in the company of their mother in a bad neighborhood, than those who are eaten by the family dog. I would also wager that if the Clinton's cat killed and ate Chelsea, that there would be no charges pending. Which is the "right" choice--to take your child with you and have him/her die when you are mugged--to leave your child at home and have the dog eat him/her? Which is the "right" choice--to allow your child to learn about kinky sex techniques and then die when they try hanging themself from the ceiling and standing on a chair--to "protect" them from exposure to *trash* such as this, and then they die by suffocation when their sex-partner tells them semi-strangulation enhances sex, because they've never encountered information about it which also mentions that it may be dangerous? If you beat your child in order to prevent them from doing what you feel will be harmful to them, then society will put you in jail. If you beat them psychologically, with guilt, and they kill themself out of shame when they do something *bad*, society will give you sympathy. Which is the "right" way to teach your children to avoid things which will harm them? There *isn't* a "right" way. Before your child can understand speech, you can't protect them from touching a hot stove by "telling" them not to. Is it "wrong" to slap their hand when they reach for it? Once they *do* know how to understand what you are telling them, slapping their hand may not be the best way to keep them from harm. The bottom line is that you have to use your best judgment about issues such as these, and you will never be "right." You will merely be doing the best that you can. If you don't care about making the effort to protect your children and they never touch a hot stove, it does not make you a "good" parent. If you care immensely, and do everything you are capable of to protect your children and they *do* touch a hot stove, it does not make you a "bad" parent. It is human nature that if you take your child to the park to enrich their life, and they get killed by a meteor falling from the sky, you may find yourself "blaming" yourself, saying, "If only I hadn't taken him/her to the park!" This is part of life, and part of being human. However, when others decide that you should be imprisoned for child endangerment for taking your child outside when a single astronomer in China told the media that a meteorite "might" be on the way, then there is something seriously wrong with society. Is this a ridiculous example? Sure it is...just like someone claiming that they were justified in raping someone because their slip was showing, so they were "asking for it." The point I am trying to make is that there are no ridiculous examples. Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, once had a law that required pedestrians to walk on the right side of the sidewalk. This was a fairly recent event. Insane? Yes, and City Council eventually figured out that they were idiots, but if someone's child had died when bumping into someone while their parent was walking them on the "wrong side" of the sidewalk, the parent would have been legally guilty of child endangerment. The "Big Lie" that we tell ourselves is that we can guarantee our safety and security, and that of our children, if we just pass enough laws against things that are "wrong." If we can just figure out who is "to blame" for society's ills and imprison them. The guy who sold you the "junk bonds" might well have cost you less money than the long-term government bonds you bought just before inflation went through the roof. Who is the "right" person to put in jail, and who is the "wrong" person to put in jail? Truthfully, the "right" person to put in jail may well be *you*. It might "protect" you from making bad financial decisions. I don't want your child to get molested by a pedophile. I don't want your child to die of a heroin overdose. But I don't want a video camera mounted in my home to monitor my activities in an attempt to keep your child from coming to harm, either. A solution to protecting the citizens is to put them in prison and keep the criminals on the outside. Really! We would be protected by the security of concrete walls and locked doors. Is the "right" thing to do to put your child in prison? I think you know better than that. Some children are going to be molested, some are going to be abused and/or murdered, some are going to walk willingly, and perhaps ignorantly, into bad situations that will lead them to suffer irrepairable harm. I don't want this for your child, or for any child, but I truly don't believe that they can be protected by making the lives of everyone so regulated and restricted that our life energy is drained from us by effectively imprisoning our spirit. When I was a child, there was a local priest named Father Flanigan who enjoyed the company of young boys. He regularly offered to take them to out-of-town hockey games, supervise them in their parent's absence, etc. When he offered to take myself and several other young boys to an out-of-town game, my parents allowed me to go with him, but they also made a point of telling me not to let him put his hand down my pants. The fact of the matter is, the trip enriched my life, and Father Flanigan did many good things for the youth of my community. Did he "molest" any of them? I don't know. He didn't molest me, or anyone I know of. Were my parents "bad" parents? No, they were *great* parents. They "protected" me by making their best judgement and giving me the information they felt I needed in order to use my own judgment effectively. Did my parents "endanger" me by allowing me to go with Father Flanigan? Sure, they did. They also endangered me by allowing me to go outside and risk getting hit by a falling meteor. Was Father Flanigan a pedophile? I don't know. Was he a pedophile, but non-active? I don't know. Did my parents know? Perhaps, perhaps not. I wouldn't doubt that they may have asked him about his fondness for young boys, or talked to those in a position to know, or perhaps they merely used their own best judgement. Or, it could be that they and I are way off base, merely being prejudiced by anti-Catholic views promoted by those with an axe to grind against differing religious views. Regardless, when I was thirteen, I was approached by a guy who stepped out of an alley and offered me $20.00 to let him give me a blow-job. I politely declined, and went on my way. I spent about an hour at home with my family, without giving the event much thought. However, at some point it occurred to me that there were children younger than myself who might be more vulnerable to the man's approach, and that, while he had not used any force or pressure in the situation, that it was possible that this could occur with a smaller child. I asked my mother if there was a law against adults offering children money to let the adult give them a blow-job. She was startled by my question, though she hid it as best she could, but she was also amused that I was so casual about asking it. She dealt with the situation matter-of-factly, and I went with a policeman to help him find the man. The policeman chased him down, subdued him, and took him to jail. To tell the truth, I felt compassion for the man, since I sensed that he was a tortured individual, and he had not really done anything that 'violated' me, or 'infringed' on my right to self-determination (although I would not have been able to verbalize these feelings at the time). Looking back on the event, I realize that, strictly speaking, I did not take a course of action that would lead to his being judged and punished for what he did, but rather, for what he "might" do. Was I "right" or "wrong" in subjecting someone who did not do any harm to me to arrest and imprisonment? I don't know. It could very well be the man never had, and never would, force himself on a child, or exert undue pressure on a child in order to coerce the child into doing something against their will. Can my actions be deemed "right" or "wrong," depending on the "odds" of him forcing himself on a child, versus being of strong enough character not to do evil to satisfy his desires? In retrospect, I believe I made my decision to act based on the fact that I sensed that the man was not totally in control of basing his actions only on his best rational judgement. It could be that I had him wrongly imprisoned, or it could be that I saved him from doing something he would regret for the rest of his life. The irony of this story is that the local police solved their "problem" with this man by buying him a bus ticket to a small town nearby. End of problem... It is my belief that this "solution" to the local police's "problem" is illustrative of the attempts of censors and regulators to "shift" the problems instead of "solving" them. I could be dead in a ditch because my parents allowed me to go with a priest who had a fondness for children. I could also be dead in a ditch because my parents "protected" me from being exposed to recognizing the reality of adults who are fond of children, and I might not have had enough information to deal properly with the guy who stepped out of the alley. Which legislation do we pass to protect our children? Do we pass legislation "preventing" parents from allowing their children to accompany an adult who is fond of children, or do we pass legislation "requiring" parents to allow their children to accompany an adult who is fond of children, but who will enrich their lives and help them to understand the difference between controlling one's urges versus violating others in order to satisfy themself? The reality of the current state of affairs is that there are a plethora of laws which prevent parents from making their own decisions as to how to live their lives and how to raise their children to the best of their ability. If you know that you need to slap your child's hand in order to keep them from touching a hot stove, will you do so? What if you also know that Child Services will take away your child and put them in an orphanage if you do so? Is your child better off having a deformed hand and living at home in a loving environment, or having a normal hand and being raised by strangers who don't care for him/her? Laws aren't going to universally protect our children, nor are rating systems, or lynchings. Nor, sadly, the best judgement of concerned, loving parents. We can't solve the problems of life by passing legislation that attempts to control everyone and everything, forcing us all to meet standards that may be based on erronious beliefs and/or information. There are laws against murder. People still get murdered. Punishment may be justified for the act of murder, but it is not the "solution" to preventing murder. We can't legislate away poverty, destitution, and desperation. Making "anger" illegal won't prevent it. Making "embarassment" illegal won't stop people from blushing. We are increasingly shifting "social" problems into the arena of "legal" remedy. We "liberate" the mentally ill from their confinement in nuthouses, and then we "imprison" them for peeing in an alley because they live on the streets. We pass laws limiting political campaign contributions, and then we vote for the person who spends $50,000,000 on ads telling us what an asshole their opponent is. We allow doctors to give their patients heroin in order to relieve their suffering, and we deny an Ambassadorship to someone who believes that a doctor should be able to give his patients marijuana to relieve their suffering. Yes, I care about other people, and I care about children. I am not selfishly clinging to my rights to privacy and freedom in order to further my own interests at the expense of others. I am doing so because I don't believe that the world will be a better place if my rights and freedoms are taken away. Then again, I'm Chinese...I could be "Wong." TruthMonger

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State Governments Cash In On Illegal Taxes
by Apache 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Following the the ruling of the High Court of Australia finding that billions of dollars in taxation revenue collected by the states was illegal and unconstitutional the Premiers of Victoria and NSW have made statements that their respective governments will not be refunding the unlawfully collected taxes paid in advance by certain hoteliers. To do so would be an unjust windfall the Premiers said. The governments continue to act unlawfully collecting 'taxes' with no lawful or constitutional basis. The government of Queensland today in a press statement advised it would be returning any unlawfully imposed taxes paid in advance. No mention was made of any intention to refund taxes previously collected but not paid in advance. - -- .////. .// Charles Senescall apache(a)bear.apana.org.au o:::::::::/// >::::::::::\\\ PGP mail preferred Brisbane AUSTRALIA '\\\\\' \\ Apache -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM+x7cHawhvoxf0r9AQHmlwf+PGKn7C8MK1O/JaVwAwXNxkTHjpY1aTU1 CqYQXnuA4mhGNonTjMjsfjE9+M6rVgBq2o28EwtVm++yGR/DmNWjzCgv2pgzwqld wpDsFaLQBUN60lh2XrXVYNXTf3ipaO3F9f68t/sFJCOquui0NAjapO254ZPyHt9b +kjk1DRnG1V7mVpVRcL3hd1RBWkNTBCa/1bucvrEUPsav+17jgfnje3yDPoPf6KC o5e33YZoY3JoamGrejnEoWDXBrAucGJfGeqDjfG+6Ymz4RNSL2EKe7KtTgrtbXHo mN+i3uwVDBPjZsF/iiEoCQ5kwUSead5SkuZu/uUFSk52C5L+544Cgg== =AFmN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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If you have any questions please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that costs me pennies to produce and E-Mail. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or a pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting nothing in return. No product what so ever! Not only are chain letters illegal but the risk of some one breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. Its simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material the PRODUCT is a series of FOUR FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the right to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 3 cents a copy. Best Wishes with this program and Good Luck! TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your (4) four reports immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When You receive a $5 order, You must send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws. Title18 sections1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT or SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED". WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your company. You can use your own name if you like. 2. Get a Post Office Box ( preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. You must remember Your name and address go next to REPORT#1 and the others all move down one with the fourth being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain as many E-Mail addresses as possible to send to, until you receive the information on mailing list companies in REPORT#3. 5. Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you send, and the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy the (4) FOUR REPORTS so you are able to send them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! YOUR GUARANTEE: The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this: You must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. This is a must!!! If you don't within the first 2 weeks, E-Mail out more programs until you do. Then a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2 if you don't send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, (take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, Because you are going to make at least $50,000 Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above gurantees ALL have reached their $50,000 goal. Also, remember every time your name is moved down on the list you are in front of a different REPORT so you can keep track of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!! "I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." -Sir Isaac Newton

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Hipped on PGP
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: 9 Aug 1997 02:13:36 -0000 From: iang(a)systemics.com To: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com Subject: Hipped on PGP Sender: <e$(a)vmeng.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip 2.0 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=unsubscribe%20e$> List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=subscribe%20e$> HIP finishes late in the day. It's 0100 - that's one in the morning for the temporally challenged - and the smart card workshop has just broken up. Actually it was the second pass. The first pass was 'sold out' at 150 people, this second started at 2300 this evening. Again, 150 people turned up and sat through presentations of hardware and data formats and attacks on the financially finest plastic in Europe. I have no snippets or revelations, I am not one of the dedicated. Mondex remains un-hacked, ChipKnip is secure. Frankly I'm not interested, I find the world of smart cards deadly boring. Perhaps it is the hardware, or maybe because attacks on smart cards have little chance of realising any gain or meltdown. I can on the other hand report that Saturn is safe tonight, as our in-HIP astrodome is busilly monitoring progress. What better way to wind down than to head up to north campground and check out the latest telescopic tracking software. Speaking of celestial control, the weather is perfect. That's by California standards, not European. Dave del Torto was lucky to be joining us for his talk on PGP user security. After buzzing the bells of the trainee bag scanner with 15kg of portables and random cables, he was incarcerated in an investigative cell for a couple of hours. Many hours after seeing his flight head east, a state department goon turns up. "When are you coming back?" asks the goon, knowing full well the day. Dave says "the 16th" blithely unaware that his passport expires on the day before. Goon leaves, returns, hands over passport. Only problem was, passport was cancelled... No explanation. No advice, no help. How Dave wings it over to HIP and saves the free world has to wait until, well, another's email. What disturbs is the gradual, unstoppable closing of borders in our erstwhile free western neigbour. Just like the American predomination, or should I say, embarrasment of topic on the never-ending crypto saga. If freedom is to contract a cancer, a malignant tumour, then Dave's talk on PGP user security is as a promise of the miracle cure, and not the State Department chemotheropy that cures the disease by killing the patient. Dave was followed by a presentation by Gary Howland on weaknesses in PGP. These theoretical problems leave one with niggling doubts as to the accepted reputation, our holy gail of privacy and security. There is no need for panic - many of the attacks are both highly specific, have been recognised for some time, and have been explicitly fixed in the latest release, PGP 5.0. But there is pause for thought. Howland and myself and many other have built financial cryptographic systems that relied on the mantra of PGP impregnability. The attacks he described work best in programmed systems like ours and those of our more respectable competitors. For example, imagine building a system that authorised counterparties on the strength of the PGP id or the fingerprint. Now we discover that Mallory can make a new key with the same fingerprint. Whilst not wishing to state that this is the end of the world, clearly we have to re-evaluate the entire architecture that was built up upon PGP. We believed in the PGP reputation as much as others, and these attacks are a timely reminder of the need for eternal hacker vigilance. These flaws are significant but addressable: PGP 5.0 has fixes for all but one of the flaws mentioned. And for the record, whilst Gary's attack to change conventionally encrypted files without detection was unknown to the PGP team at the moment, we can be sure that it will be addressed. Other exciting developments were the van Eyk demonstration by Prof. Euller. Not one, not two, but three methods to detect and display PC monitor signals on a slaved monitor, from distances into the several hundreds of metres. There is now little doubt that standard computers are the FBIs best friend. What need key escrow? Signing off and Hipped out. iang(a)somwhere.in.the.middle.of.nowhere --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Hipped on PGP
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: 9 Aug 1997 02:13:36 -0000 From: iang(a)systemics.com To: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com Subject: Hipped on PGP Sender: <e$(a)vmeng.com> Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip 2.0 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=unsubscribe%20e$> List-Subscribe: <mailto:requests@vmeng.com?subject=subscribe%20e$> HIP finishes late in the day. It's 0100 - that's one in the morning for the temporally challenged - and the smart card workshop has just broken up. Actually it was the second pass. The first pass was 'sold out' at 150 people, this second started at 2300 this evening. Again, 150 people turned up and sat through presentations of hardware and data formats and attacks on the financially finest plastic in Europe. I have no snippets or revelations, I am not one of the dedicated. Mondex remains un-hacked, ChipKnip is secure. Frankly I'm not interested, I find the world of smart cards deadly boring. Perhaps it is the hardware, or maybe because attacks on smart cards have little chance of realising any gain or meltdown. I can on the other hand report that Saturn is safe tonight, as our in-HIP astrodome is busilly monitoring progress. What better way to wind down than to head up to north campground and check out the latest telescopic tracking software. Speaking of celestial control, the weather is perfect. That's by California standards, not European. Dave del Torto was lucky to be joining us for his talk on PGP user security. After buzzing the bells of the trainee bag scanner with 15kg of portables and random cables, he was incarcerated in an investigative cell for a couple of hours. Many hours after seeing his flight head east, a state department goon turns up. "When are you coming back?" asks the goon, knowing full well the day. Dave says "the 16th" blithely unaware that his passport expires on the day before. Goon leaves, returns, hands over passport. Only problem was, passport was cancelled... No explanation. No advice, no help. How Dave wings it over to HIP and saves the free world has to wait until, well, another's email. What disturbs is the gradual, unstoppable closing of borders in our erstwhile free western neigbour. Just like the American predomination, or should I say, embarrasment of topic on the never-ending crypto saga. If freedom is to contract a cancer, a malignant tumour, then Dave's talk on PGP user security is as a promise of the miracle cure, and not the State Department chemotheropy that cures the disease by killing the patient. Dave was followed by a presentation by Gary Howland on weaknesses in PGP. These theoretical problems leave one with niggling doubts as to the accepted reputation, our holy gail of privacy and security. There is no need for panic - many of the attacks are both highly specific, have been recognised for some time, and have been explicitly fixed in the latest release, PGP 5.0. But there is pause for thought. Howland and myself and many other have built financial cryptographic systems that relied on the mantra of PGP impregnability. The attacks he described work best in programmed systems like ours and those of our more respectable competitors. For example, imagine building a system that authorised counterparties on the strength of the PGP id or the fingerprint. Now we discover that Mallory can make a new key with the same fingerprint. Whilst not wishing to state that this is the end of the world, clearly we have to re-evaluate the entire architecture that was built up upon PGP. We believed in the PGP reputation as much as others, and these attacks are a timely reminder of the need for eternal hacker vigilance. These flaws are significant but addressable: PGP 5.0 has fixes for all but one of the flaws mentioned. And for the record, whilst Gary's attack to change conventionally encrypted files without detection was unknown to the PGP team at the moment, we can be sure that it will be addressed. Other exciting developments were the van Eyk demonstration by Prof. Euller. Not one, not two, but three methods to detect and display PC monitor signals on a slaved monitor, from distances into the several hundreds of metres. There is now little doubt that standard computers are the FBIs best friend. What need key escrow? Signing off and Hipped out. iang(a)somwhere.in.the.middle.of.nowhere --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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NCash - an experimental digital cash system
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 19:39:46 -0400 From: "Eric S. Johansson" <esj(a)harvee.billerica.ma.us> Reply-To: esj(a)harvee.billerica.ma.us Organization: only slightly MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rah(a)shipwright.com Subject: NCash - an experimental digital cash system do you know about this?? (probably :-) --- eric http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash/ Content-Type: text/html Content-Base: "http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash /" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by harvee.billerica.ma.us id SAA25447 This corner of the WWW is devoted to information, documentation and source for the NCash digital cash experiment. Some pointers here are links right into my source tree, so don't be surprised if you find inconsistencies or bugs. NCash is my Master's project at the Linköping Institute of Technology. The idea is to design and implement an bare-bones off-line digital cash system, meeting rather high standards for security and privacy. And then try it out in the Real World. For simplicity, NCash will be software only, with both servers and clients running on Unix-like machines. The cash system being implemented follows the ideas of Stefan Brands' rather closely, in particular the system described in his 'An efficient off-line electronic cash system based on the representation problem'. An excellent introduction to digital cash and related matters are David Chaum's articles 'Achieving Electronic Privacy' and 'Security Without Identification: Transaction Systems to Make Big Brother Obsolete', written 1992 and 1985 respectively. I'm running a mailing list for discussion of the NCash project. The list is mainly for the persons more or less involved in the project, i.e. me, my supervisor, other people who have offered help, volunteers who wish to try out the system when time comes, and some friends and other interested people. The main language on the list is Swedish. To subscribe, send mail to <ncash-request(a)lysator.liu.se>. The list address is <ncash-request(a)lysator.liu.se>. There's also an <http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash/ncash-arkiv>archive. Ahttp://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash/s the design and implementation proceeds, I try to keep up with documenting NCash. If you dare, look at the latest snapshot as of August 6th. Also available as <http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash/NCash.ps>postscript The <http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/NCash/source.html>source code will mostly be written in the Pike language, and will probably be released under the GNU General Public License, but it's not ready yet for some time. The server will probably run on a <http://www.linux.org>Linux machine that the mathematics department has kindly given me access to. Last modified: Wed May 21 02:53:29 MET DST 1997 Niels Möller <nisse(a)lysator.liu.se> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Masons and Fnords
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:00 AM -0700 8/9/97, David D.W. Downey wrote: >To show how much this country *was* in fact based upon Christianity, one >has only to look at our money. "In *God* we trust. Also, the majority of >our founding fathers were in fact christians. Yet they correctly Actually, _all_ of the Founders were Masons. Tim Bob says check it out. The eye and the pyramid. The original inscription on money: "In fnord we trust." They adopted Xtianity as a cover. They actually worshipped Ra and Set. (Why do you think the new standard for secure commerce is called SET?) --Tim May, 34th Degree Mason, former resident of Alexandria, home of the Masonic Temple. There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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TAZ & Rewebber servers
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ian Goldberg and Dave Wagner have a paper on an implementation of something related to Ross Anderson's paper at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~daw/cs268/ People interested in eternity service protocols etc, might find it interesting. The rewebber is a kind of chaining encrypting web proxy. Web proxies normally accept urls like so: http://http://somewhere.com/blah/ There paper allows you to have http://1231324adefgga1324324adefgga1324324adefgga1324 where 1231324adefgga1324324adefgga1324324adefgga1324 is an encrypted form of "http://somewhere.com/blah/". You can chain this. I didn't notice their paper announced here at the time they wrote it. They have an implementation, but source is not available directly due to export crapola. I guess you'll have to send them email if you want to try it out. They have a sample server up, and the TAZ server seems to work, but the rewebber seemed to be dead when I used it. It looks to me that you could combine eternity servers with rewebbers. Create a rewebber chain pointing at an article in an eternity server. Adam -- Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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HIP
by ant＠replay.xs4all.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, See https://cypherpunks.campsite.hip97.nl Also watch TV and the newspapers next week. We have been promoting the education mission..... Scanned paper PGP source code proofreading is nearing completion (by non-US people of course), and we hope to finish this weekend. Whitespace is the most hassle, even in places where it doesn't affect the code's meaning. Another time publish a paper version w/o comments and tabs. Our meeting is postponed to Sunday 16:00 local time to avoid a clash w/ Bruce Schneier. Some CPs had difficulty leaving the US to get here. It's not very clear how purposeful that was, but they'll tell you the details if they want to. :) :) :) Antonomasia normally ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk till Monday morning ant(a)replay.com

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Re: FCPUNX:this could happen to remailers (was Re: Whining for 'Accountability')
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:40 PM 8/8/97 +0100, Adam Back wrote: > When an incident like this happens via remailers, there will be > similar calls for `accountability' on the net, and for `government to > do something about the problem'. When an incident like this happens with remailers, people will say: "You morons, look at the headers, obviously it was bogus" Some time ago somebody used remailers to spread what purported to be an embarrassing political memo far and wide. The newsmedia that picked it up were promptly and rightly ridiculed, most of the media interpreting the disclaimer that the mail was not from the entity that it appeared to be from as effectively an admission "spoof: Do not take the following seriously" Suppose you got what purported to be a bill for dirty pictures from a business, but the headers said "huge cajones remailer". You would have to be a right loon to take it seriously. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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JOB_les
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

8-28-95. NYPaper, Page One lead: "Skilled Workers Watch Their Jobs Migrate Overseas. College Educated Foreigners Are Doing High-Technology Tasks for Far Less Pay." The new tools of the information age were supposed to help the United States regain an edge in international competition. And while that has happened in many advanced-technology industries, the combination of powerful personal computers and high-capacity undersea telephone cables is also subjecting millions of white-collar Americans to the same global wage pressures that their blue-collar counterparts have long faced. As with steel and garment workers, the white-collar workers' positions and salaries increasingly depend on whether they can justify their higher pay with higher productivity. Many fear that the growing tendency of corporations to farm out tasks to developing countries is widening the gap even further between the rich and everybody else in American society by eliminating some categories of high-skill, high-wage jobs that make up the heart of the middle class. "Dissecting the information revolution (in advance): With a look at one of Newt's Laws and at 'friction-free capitalism.' " [Expands on last week's Aspen article] The Aspen conference provided some people with their first exposure to Newtonion economics -- which appears to be the information-age equivalent of Ronald Reagan's trickle-down economics. It is called "friction-free capitalism." Nathan Myhrvold noted that one can now order custom-fit blue jeans directly from the manufacturer. Double trouble: JOB_les (17kb)

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Re: forged cancels (Re: Entrust Technologies's Solo - free download)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim Skirvin <tskirvin(a)math.uiuc.edu> writes: > "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> writes: > >>>> Not accepted ones. They're treated as rogues, and asked to stop > >>>> it, and you know it. > >>> Net.Scum like [...] Tim Brown, > >> Tim Brown is not an accepted canceler. > > > > As challenged, I've listed 3 dozen "spam cancellers" caught slipping cancels > > forged for "non-spam" among their "spam cancels". > > And how many of them are considered accepted cancellers? None of them are considered "accepted cancellers" by me. If your news server processes cancels, then it processes the cancels forged by this scum whether or not you consider them "accepted cancellers". You seem to imply that there's a choice whose forged cancels to process, which is not true in general (unless one aliases out the site used to forge cancels). You also lied when you claimed that Jan Isley only forges cancels for articles cross-posted in "his" local alt.* hierarchy, Ehud Gavron only forges cancels for cross-posts in "his" az.*, etc - not that this would have been an excuse, but all of these scumbags have been caught forging cancels for articles posted only in unmoderated "big 6" newsgroups once, as documented on their respective Net.Scum pages. > > What difference does it make whether Tim Skirvin considers someone an > > "accepted" or "rogue" canceller? > > Because there's rules set up around the concept of 'accepted > cancellers' to ensure accountability and at least limited choice. I find > these things important, because they reduce the danger of cancels > significantly. Fact 1: Tim Skirvin, his friends, and and their "rules" are irrelevant, impotent, isolated, and ignored. > Tim Brown broke the rules blatantly. Fact 2: Tim Brown, Jan Isley, Chris Lewes, Bob Curtis, Ehud Gavron, and the rest of the self-appointed "spam cancellers" break the rule that says you should forge cancels for articles you didn't post. As for _your_ rules, see Fact 1 above. > > Tim Skirvin is under no obligation to disseminate the information that he > > feels shouldn't be publicly available ("security through obscurity"). > > However since he chooses to present himself as the author of the "official" > > FAQ on usenet Cancels (actually, substantually plagiarized from the Cancel > > FAQ that David Stodolsky used to post), a more honest way to deal with the > > questions he doesn't want to answer would be to either omit the question > > altogether, or to state that he doesn't want to answer the question. > > I've already answered this (look at the most recent version of the > FAQ, Dimitri), but I would like to say that there is no plagarization in > my FAQ. Anyone can compare David Stodolsky's "Cancel FAQ" with Tim Skirvin's "Cancel FAQ" and verify that substantial portions (most of the technical discussion on how cancels work; the discussion of why people issue cancels; et al) have been copied without attribution. (Tim Skirvin also flames Stodolsky in his FAQ.) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: SSL trouble
by Damien.Doligez＠inria.fr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Piete Brooks <Piete.Brooks(a)cl.cam.ac.uk> >We were using ALPHA code when we started .... I didn't realise that. >(4) is still applicable isn't it ? >What tells people to stop, or do they go on for ever ? A message in a newsgroup, a mailing list, or a web page. Even if you can mount a denial-of-service against this, it will only make people continue the search uselessly. It won't prevent you from finding the key. >>The main drawback of the random search is that the expected running "time" >where "expected" is some loose average ..... Nope. It's what I get when I do the math (basic probability theory) to find the expected running time. But I could be wrong. I'll try to write it in TeX and put it on my web page. >>I suspect that sequential searching from a random starting point would be >>much worse in the case of many independent searchers. >Convince me (please) .... That would be hard because I've been thinking about it, and I'm less and less convinced myself. >> In conclusion, I think random searching is the way to go. >It has its advantages -- yes. Did you use it for Hal1 ? :-)) No, but I had few machines and fast connections (and even then, I did have some network problems). But if you think sequential searching can work, let's do it. I don't think we have to worry about deliberate attacks for the moment, and the factor of two is significant. My previous message was based on the assumption that it would be hard to get rid of the server overload. Maybe we should use random searching as a fallback mode in case of network problems. It cannot hurt, except that it makes the programs more complex. -- Damien

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail, which is available at: ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/premail/premail-0.33.tar.gz For the PGP public keys of the remailers, as well as some help on how to use them, finger remailer.help.all(a)chaos.taylored.com This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{"vox"} = "<remail(a)vox.xs4all.nl> cpunk pgp. post"; $remailer{"avox"} = "<anon(a)vox.hacktic.nl> cpunk pgp post"; $remailer{"extropia"} = "<remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com> cpunk pgp special"; $remailer{"portal"} = "<hfinney(a)shell.portal.com> cpunk pgp hash"; $remailer{"alumni"} = "<hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu> cpunk pgp hash"; $remailer{"bsu-cs"} = "<nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu> cpunk hash ksub"; $remailer{"rebma"} = "<remailer(a)rebma.mn.org> cpunk pgp. hash"; $remailer{"c2"} = "<remail(a)c2.org> eric pgp hash reord"; $remailer{"penet"} = "<anon(a)anon.penet.fi> penet post"; $remailer{"ideath"} = "<remailer(a)ideath.goldenbear.com> cpunk hash ksub reord"; $remailer{"hacktic"} = "<remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"flame"} = "<remailer(a)flame.alias.net> cpunk mix pgp. hash latent cut post ek reord"; $remailer{"rahul"} = "<homer(a)rahul.net> cpunk pgp hash filter"; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord"; $remailer{"syrinx"} = "<syrinx(a)c2.org> cpunk pgp reord mix post"; $remailer{"ford"} = "<remailer(a)bi-node.zerberus.de> cpunk pgp"; $remailer{"hroller"} = "<hroller(a)c2.org> cpunk pgp hash mix cut ek"; $remailer{"vishnu"} = "<mixmaster(a)vishnu.alias.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord"; $remailer{"crown"} = "<mixmaster(a)kether.alias.net> cpunk pgp hash latent cut mix ek reord"; $remailer{"robo"} = "<robo(a)c2.org> cpunk hash mix"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"spook"} = "<remailer(a)spook.alias.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek reord"; $remailer{"rmadillo"} = "<remailer(a)armadillo.com> mix cpunk pgp hash latent cut"; $remailer{"ursula"} = "<ursula(a)cyberspace.org> cpunk"; $remailer{"ncognito"} = "<ncognito(a)gate.net> cpunk"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. Use "premail -getkeys pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu" to get PGP keys for the remailers. Fingering this address works too. 21 Apr 1995: The new version of premail (0.33) is out, with direct posting, perl5 and better MH support, and numerous bug fixes. Last ping: Mon 28 Aug 95 6:00:57 PDT remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- portal hfinney(a)shell.portal.com *##*#*****+* 9:28 99.99% alumni hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu **********+* 11:12 99.99% hacktic remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl **+********* 11:54 99.99% spook remailer(a)spook.alias.net -+------+-- 2:28:52 99.99% hroller hroller(a)c2.org *##*-+*--*** 31:39 99.98% c2 remail(a)c2.org ++++-++--+++ 1:31:06 99.98% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com --..---.---- 6:57:01 99.98% crown mixmaster(a)kether.alias.net ------.--- 2:55:00 99.99% syrinx syrinx(a)c2.org ----------- 2:13:52 99.98% flame remailer(a)flame.alias.net ++++++++++++ 51:11 99.96% ideath remailer(a)ideath.goldenbear.com --.-.------ 4:57:42 99.95% bsu-cs nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu -##+*+****++ 52:12 99.84% vishnu mixmaster(a)vishnu.alias.net ----------- 3:15:22 99.82% rmadillo remailer(a)armadillo.com +++++++++++* 1:34:11 99.67% vox remail(a)vox.xs4all.nl ---.-----. 17:32:05 99.99% ncognito ncognito(a)gate.net #+** 3:44 99.46% replay remailer(a)replay.com **+****_**** 44:17 99.34% penet anon(a)anon.penet.fi - -++-----++ 3:58:07 98.44% ursula ursula(a)cyberspace.org # * 3:37 97.42% rahul homer(a)rahul.net *#*++******* 5:12 99.99% extropia remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com ._.-__..-.. 20:21:39 89.74% ford remailer(a)bi-node.zerberus.de ****# **** 7:36 87.14% robo robo(a)c2.org -*** 55:42 55.73% rebma remailer(a)rebma.mn.org 9:53:43 1.99% For more info: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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HOPE Not
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Comments on two of the many HOPE sessions: those of L0pht and Bruce Schneier: L0pht summarized their current campaign to test security on behalf of the consumer, having found that corporations refuse to publicize or correct holes L0pht reported in confidence. L0pht cited, among others, the Mac security features and products coming to market, which they think have been too hastily readied for grafting onto other programs and and are vulnerable due to inadequate design, integration and testing. Like too many MS flood-the-market programs. Bruce outlined the principal elements of the security challenge and the role of cryptography among those of people, hardware, facilities, law and policy. He warned of the weakness of relying on crypto in the overall security matrix and cautioned that crypto is not the main answer to the security problem, which is primarily one of human frailty and criminal behavior, and that it will take a combination of solutions involving: Strong and efficient encryption -- key length is not critical Tamper resistant hardware -- software can be protected by math Trust management -- reliable authentication and certification; GAK is too complicated to ever work Jurisdiction -- criminals must not be able to operate from the most obliging state Law -- punishment for criminal acts He emphasized that mathematics and software are not the problem of insecure systems, it is humans and the impossibility of predictable interface with machines. Every system is vulnerable to attack, not at its strongest but at its weakest. Brute force is not an attack worth worrying about, although it gets most of the publicity. What's worrisome is the out of the way fault in the fortress, the one nobody expects, the one the enemy ever seeks by hook, crook, bribe and trick. (HOPE's agenda?) It was a provocative, informative, many-faceted presentation, and could become an article, maybe a book, surely an effective business lure. He closed by citing "Those who think cryptography is the answer to security do not understand the problem and do not understand cryptography." Bruce did not provide paper copy of the slides but said he will send it upon e-mail request to: schneier(a)counterpane.com Coda: Most surprising about HOPE was that everyone, M/F, was dressed in brass-button blazers, oxford whites, rep ties and gray flannels; spit-shined caps, Shasti barbered, smelled of Camay; murmured "well said" to the eloquent speakers, softly sniffed for salient points, chatted at tea, "swell show, don't you think." None of the ripe rank of cavities and pits,dreadlocks and skulls, vulgar tees and shreds, toilet squalor and slime, chest-caving music, vile hoots and whistles of "phreak Ma B, crack Mr. Softie," crazed eyeballs assaulting gameboxes, deformed bods struggling to get in against those escaping Bedlam, none of that at Beyond Hope, not at all, that was outside in the gutters of Manhattan, defiling a tux and gown wedding party upstairs at Puck.

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Pre-allocating key segments
by ab411＠detroit.freenet.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Christian Wettergren <cwe(a)Csli.Stanford.EDU> writes: >If the client is unable to retrieve a block from the server, I suggest >it just picks a random block and starts working on it. I may very >well not be allocated to someone else, and then the client was able >to do something good in the meantime even though it didn't get a >proper key alloc. Not only that, but the client ought to allocate some keyspace before it needs it, as I think one other cpunk suggested. For instance, if it has four segments allocated and it's done three of them, it should fork a process to begin requesting four more segments *while* it is scanning the last segment, rather than waiting until after it is done and leaving the machine idle until it can alloc more keys. David R. Conrad, ab411(a)detroit.freenet.org, http://www.grfn.org/~conrad Finger conrad(a)grfn.org for PGP 2.6 public key; it's also on my home page Key fingerprint = 33 12 BC 77 48 81 99 A5 D8 9C 43 16 3C 37 0B 50 Jerry Garcia, August 1, 1942 - August 9, 1995. Requiescat in pace. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCUAwUBMEHCiREcrOJethBVAQHqfwP4xfVbdkyR19WA5k4oC0GjW80s3nNrLkXZ mYspBE8e01waJ+6NYkeyvE4lPzW4OwkKTAtZV64GWovpjsyYh4bb7/mkpkdOktAZ J9DkHXouQ5M23FImbIcfkVUqQdR5tmSdHQqOpUNYPVqT3JZR6IC9vzwYoqcnQWyY WIIGs8DTUA== =9Y8g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- David R. Conrad, ab411(a)detroit.freenet.org, http://www.grfn.org/~conrad Finger conrad(a)grfn.org for PGP 2.6 public key; it's also on my home page Key fingerprint = 33 12 BC 77 48 81 99 A5 D8 9C 43 16 3C 37 0B 50 Jerry Garcia, August 1, 1942 - August 9, 1995. Requiescat in pace.

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Turing test novel: "Galatea 2.2"
by lwp＠mail.msen.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Reviewed in The New Yorker (August 21&28 issue) is the novel "Galatea 2.2" by Richard Powers, wherein a neural net is nurtured by an English Literature professor "to counterfeit human responses to the Master's Comprehensive Exam, which calls for the interpretation of set texts". The review makes me want to read this book. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Lou Poppler <lwp(a)mail.msen.com> | Doom an evil deed, :: :: http://www.msen.com/~lwp/ | liven a mood. :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

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Bet e$ on how long it will take for PGPFone to make it overseas!
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To loosen up the often so serious discussions on the list, I propose a little game. PGPFone's release is about a week away. PRZ is trying his hardest to keep it from being exported. Still, I have the feeling that some irresponsible cyphercriminal will break US law and export PGPFone anyway. Let us bet cyberbucks on how long it will take for this crime to happen. Here is my initial offer: I bet e$50 that PGPFone will have been exported 24 hours after its final release has been announced to this list. Who is willing to take the bet? Perhaps someone is willing to bet at less time? Have fun, - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMC6k0CoZzwIn1bdtAQExpwF+JN52E31iW2XIepF1eINcDLJIrxsyY+4Y Dkc8HTBQdKZch6RAah+MT8/Q2ALSIwgO =TpOg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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LAND-MINE LEGISLATION
by nobody＠rigel.cyberpass.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

LAND-MINE LEGISLATION by Claire Wolfe Let me run by you a brief list of items that are "the law" in America today. As you read, consider what all these have in common. 1. A national database of employed people. 2. 100 pages of new "health care crimes," for which the penalty is (among other things) seizure of assets from both doctors and patients. 3. Confiscation of assets from any American who establishes foreign citizenship. 4. The largest gun confiscation in U. S. history--which is also an unconstitutional ex post facto law and the first law ever to remove people's constitutional rights for committing a misdemeanor. 5. A law banning guns in ill-defined school zones; random roadblocks may be used for enforcement; gun-bearing residents could become federal criminals just by stepping outside their doors or getting into vehicles. 6. Increased funding for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, an agency infamous for its brutality, dishonesty and ineptitude. 7. A law enabling the executive branch to declare various groups "terrorist"--without stating any reason and without the possibility of appeal. Once a group has been so declared, its mailing and membership lists must be turned over to the government. 8. A law authorizing secret trials with secret evidence for certain classes of people. 9. A law requiring that all states begin issuing drivers' licenses carrying Social Security numbers and "security features" (such as magnetically coded fingerprints and personal records) by October 1, 2000. By October 1, 2006, "Neither the Social Security Administration or the Passport Office or any other federal agency or any state or local government agency may accept for any evidentiary purpose a state driver's license or identification document in a form other than [one issued with a verified Social Security number and security features']." 10. And my personal favorite--a national database, now being constructed, that will contain every exchange and observation that takes place in your doctor's office. This includes records of your prescriptions, your hemorrhoids and your mental illness. It also includes--by law--any statements you make ("Doc, I'm worried my kid may be on drugs," "Doc, I've been so stressed out lately I feel about ready to go postal.") and any observations your doctor makes about your mental or physical condition, whether accurate or not, whether made with your knowledge or not. For the time being, there will be zero (count em, zero) privacy safeguards on this data. But don't worry, your government will protect you with some undefined "privacy standards" in a few years. All of the above items are the law of the land. Federal law. What else do they have in common? Well, when I ask this question to audiences, I usually get the answer, "They're all unconstitutional." True. My favorite answer came from an eloquent college student who blurted, "They all SUUUCK!" Also true. But the saddest and most telling answer is: They were all the product of the 104th Congress. Every one of the horrors above was imposed upon you by the Congress of the Republican Revolution--the Congress that pledged to "get government off your back." All of the above became law by being buried in larger bills. In many cases, they are hidden sneak attacks upon individual liberties that were neither debated on the floor of Congress nor reported in the media. For instance, three of the most horrific items (the health care database, asset confiscation for foreign residency and the 100 pages of health care crimes) were hidden in the Kennedy-Kassebaum Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (H.R. 3103). You didn't hear about them at the time because the media was too busy celebrating this "moderate, compromise" bill that "simply" ensured that no American would ever lose insurance coverage due to a job change or a preexisting condition. Your legislator may not have heard about them, either. Because he or she didn't care enough to do so. The fact is, most legislators don't even read the laws they inflict upon the public. They read the title of the bill (which may be something like "The Save the Sweet Widdle Babies from Gun Violence by Drooling Drug Fiends Act of 1984"). They read summaries, which are often prepared by the very agencies or groups pushing the bill. And they vote according to various deals or pressures. It also sometimes happens that the most horrible provisions are sneaked into bills during conference committee negotiations, after both House and Senate have voted on their separate versions of the bills. The conference committee process is supposed simply to reconcile differences between two versions of a bill. But power brokers use it for purposes of their own, adding what they wish. Then members of the House and Senate vote on the final, unified version of the bill, often in a great rush, and often without even having the amended text available for review. I have even heard (though I cannot verify) that stealth provisions are written into some bills after all the voting has taken place. Someone with a hidden agenda simply edits them in to suit his or her own purposes. So these time bombs become "law" without ever having been voted on by anybody. And who's to know? If congresspeople don't even read legislation before they vote on it, why would they bother reading it afterward? Are power brokers capable of such chicanery? Do we even need to ask? Is the computer system in which bills are stored vulnerable to tampering by people within or outside of Congress? We certainly should ask. Whether your legislators were ignorant of the infamy they were perpetrating, or whether they knew, one thing is absolutely certain: the Constitution, your legislator's oath to it, and your inalienable rights (which precede the Constitution) never entered into anyone's consideration. Ironically, you may recall that one of the early pledges of Newt Gingrich and Company was to stop these stealth attacks. Very early in the 104th Congress, the Republican leadership declared that, henceforth, all bills would deal only with the subject matter named in the title of the bill. When, at the beginning of the first session of the 104th, pro-gun Republicans attempted to attach a repeal of the "assault weapons" ban to another bill, House leaders dismissed their amendment as not being "germane." After that self-righteous and successful attempt to prevent pro-freedom stealth legislation, Congresspeople turned right around and got back to the dirty old business of practicing all the anti-freedom stealth they were capable of. Three other items on my list (ATF funding, gun confiscation and school zone roadblocks) were also buried in a big bill--H.R. 3610, the budget appropriation passed near the end of the second session of the 104th Congress. No legislator can claim to have been unaware of these three because they were brought to public attention by gun-rights groups and hotly debated in both Congress and the media. Yet some 90 percent of all congresspeople voted for them--including many who claim to be ardent protectors of the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Why? Well, in the case of my wrapped-in-the-flag, allegedly pro-gun, Republican congressperson: "Bill Clinton made me do it!" Okay, I paraphrase. What she actually said was more like, "It was part of a budget appropriations package. The public got mad at us for shutting the government down in 1994. If we hadn't voted for this budget bill, they might have elected a Democratic legislature in 1996--and you wouldn't want THAT, would you?" Oh heavens, no! I'd much rather be enslaved by people who spell their name with an R than people who spell their name with a D. Makes all the difference in the world! The Republicans are fond of claiming that Bill Clinton "forced" them to pass certain legislation by threatening to veto anything they sent to the White House that didn't meet his specs. In other cases (as with the Kennedy-Kassebaum bill), they proudly proclaim their misdeeds in the name of bipartisanship--while carefully forgetting to mention the true nature of what they're doing. In still others, they trumpet their triumph over the evil Democrats and claim the mantle of limited government while sticking it to us and to the Constitution. The national database of "workers" was in the welfare reform bill they "forced" Clinton to accept. The requirement for SS numbers and ominous "security" devices on drivers licenses originated in their very own Immigration Control and Financial Responsibility Act of 1996, H.R. 2202. Another common trick, called to my attention by Redmon Barbry, publisher of the electronic magazine Fratricide, is to hide duplicate or near-duplicate provisions in several bills. Then, when the Supreme Court declares Section A of Law Z to be unconstitutional, its kissing cousin, Section B of Law Y, remains to rule us. Sometimes this particular form of trickery is done even more brazenly; when the Supreme Court, in its Lopez decision, declared federal-level school zone gun bans unconstitutional because Congress demonstrated no jurisdiction, Congress brassily changed a few words. They claimed that school zones fell under the heading of "interstate commerce." Then they sneaked the provision into H.R. 3610, where it became "law" once again. When angry voters upbraid congresspeople about some Big Brotherish horror they've inflicted upon the country by stealth, they claim lack of knowledge, lack of time, party pressure, public pressure, or they justify themselves by claiming that the rest of the bill was "good." The simple fact is that, regardless of what reasons legislators may claim, the U. S. Congress has passed more Big Brother legislation in the last two years--more laws to enable tracking, spying and controlling--than any Democratic congress ever passed. And they have done it, in large part, in secret. Redmon Barbry put it best: "We the people have the right to expect our elected representatives to read, comprehend and master the bills they vote on. If this means Congress passes only 50 bills per session instead of 5,000, so be it. As far as I am concerned, whoever subverts this process is committing treason." By whatever means the deed is done, there is no acceptable excuse for voting against the Constitution, voting for tyranny. And I would add to Redmon's comments: Those who do read the bills, then knowingly vote to ravage our liberties, are doubly guilty. But when do the treason trials begin? The truth is that these tiny, buried provisions are often the real intent of the law, and that the hundred, perhaps thousands, of pages that surround them are sometimes nothing more than elaborate window dressing. These tiny time bombs are placed there at the behest of federal police agencies or other power groups whose agenda is not clearly visible to us. And their impact is felt long after the outward intent of the bill has been forgotten. Civil forfeiture--now one of the plagues of the nation--was first introduced in the 1970s as one of those buried, almost unnoticed provisions of a larger law. One wonders why on earth a "health care bill" carried a provision to confiscate the assets of people who become frightened or discouraged enough to leave the country. (In fact, the entire bill was an amendment to the Internal Revenue Code. Go figure.) I think we all realize by now that that database of employed people will still be around enabling government to track our locations (and heaven knows what else about us, as the database is enhanced and expanded) long after the touted benefits of "welfare reform" have failed to materialize. And most grimly of all, our drivers' licenses will be our de facto national ID card long after immigrants have ceased to want to come to this Land of Once Free. It matters not one whit whether the people controlling you call themselves R's or D's, liberals or conservatives, socialists or even (I hate to admit) libertarians. It doesn't matter whether they vote for these horrors because they're not paying attention or because they actually like such things. What matters is that the pace of totalitarianism is increasing. And it is coming closer to our daily lives all the time. Once your state passes the enabling legislation (under threat of losing "federal welfare dollars"), it is YOUR name and Social Security number that will be entered in that employee database the moment you go to work for a new employer. It is YOU who will be unable to cash a check, board an airplane, get a passport or be allowed any dealings with any government agency if you refuse to give your SS number to the drivers license bureau. It is YOU who will be endangered by driving "illegally" if you refuse to submit to Big Brother's licensing procedures. It is YOU whose psoriasis, manic depression or prostate troubles will soon be the reading matter of any bureaucrat with a computer. It is YOU who could be declared a member of a "foreign terrorist" organization just because you bought a book or concert tickets from some group the government doesn't like. It is YOU who could lose your home, bank account and reputation because you made a mistake on a health insurance form. Finally, when you become truly desperate for freedom, it is YOU whose assets will be seized if you try to flee this increasingly insane country. As Ayn Rand said in Atlas Shrugged, "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." It's time to drop any pretense. We are no longer law-abiding citizens. We have lost our law-abiding status. There are simply too many laws to abide. And because of increasingly draconian penalties and electronic tracking mechanisms, our "lawbreaking" places us and our families in greater jeopardy every day. The question is: What are we going to do about it? Write a nice, polite letter to your congressperson? Hey, if you think that'll help, I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying. (And it isn't your "bridge to the future," either.) Vote "better people" into office? Oh yeah, that's what we thought we were doing in 1994. Work to fight one bad bill or another? Okay. What will you do about the 10 or 20 or 100 equally horrible bills that will be passed behind your back while you were fighting that little battle? And let's say you defeat a nightmare bill this year. What are you going to do when they sneak it back in, at the very last minute, in some "omnibus legislation" next year? And what about the horrors you don't even learn about until two or three years after they become law? Should you try fighting these laws in the courts? Where do you find the resources? Where do you find a judge who doesn't have a vested interest in bigger, more powerful government? And again, for every one case decided in favor of freedom, what do you do about the 10, 20 or 100 in which the courts decide against the Bill of Rights? Perhaps you'd consider trying to stop the onrush of these horrors with a constitutional amendment--maybe one that bans "omnibus" bills, requires that every law meet a constitutional test or requires all congresspeople to sign statements that they've read and understood every aspect of every bill on which they vote. Good luck! Good luck, first, on getting such an amendment passed. Then good luck getting our Constitution-scorning "leaders" to obey it. It is true that liberty requires eternal vigilance, and part of that vigilance has been, traditionally, keeping a watchful eye on laws and on lawbreaking lawmakers. But given the current pace of law spewing and unconstitutional regulation-writing, you could watch, plead and struggle "within the system" 24 hours a day for your entire life and end up infinitely less free than when you began. Why throw your life away on a futile effort? Face it. If "working within the system" could halt tyranny, the tyrants would outlaw it. Why do you think they encourage you to vote, to write letters, to talk to them in public forums? It's to divert your energies. To keep you tame. "The system" as it presently exists is nothing but a rat maze. You run around thinking you're getting somewhere. Your masters occasionally reward you with a little pellet that encourages you to believe you're accomplishing something. And in the meantime, you are as much their property and their pawn as if you were a slave. In the effort of fighting them on their terms and with their authorized and approved tools, you have given your life's energy to them as surely as if you were toiling in their cotton fields, under the lash of their overseer. The only way we're going to get off this road to Hell is if we jump off. If we, personally, as individuals, refuse to cooperate with evil. How we do that is up to each of us. I can't decide for you, nor you for me. (Unlike congresspeople, who think they can decide for everybody.) But this totalitarian runaway truck is never going to stop unless we stop it, in any way we can. Stopping it might include any number of things: tax resistance; public civil disobedience; wide-scale, silent non-cooperation; highly noisy non-cooperation; boycotts; secession efforts; monkey wrenching; computer hacking; dirty tricks against government agents; public shunning of employees of abusive government agencies; alternative, self-sufficient communities that provide their own medical care and utilities. There are thousands of avenues to take, and this is something most of still need to give more thought to before we can build an effective resistance. We will each choose the courses that are right for our own circumstances, personalities and beliefs. Whatever we do, though, we must remember that we are all, already, outlaws. Not one of us can be certain of getting through a single day without violating some law or regulation we've never even heard of. We are all guilty in the eyes of today's "law." If someone in power chooses to target us, we can all, already, be prosecuted for something. And I'm sure you know that your claims of "good intentions" won't protect you, as the similar claims of politicians protect them. Politicians are above the law. YOU are under it. Crushed under it. When you look at it that way, we have little left to lose by breakings laws creatively and purposefully. Yes, some of us will suffer horrible consequences for our lawbreaking. It is very risky to actively resist unbridled power. It is especially risky to go public with resistance (unless hundreds of thousands publicly join us), and it becomes riskier the closer we get to tyranny. For that reason, among many others, I would never recommend any particular course of action to anyone--and I hope you'll think twice before taking "advice" from anybody about things that could jeopardize your life or well-being. But if we don't resist in the best ways we know how--and if a good number of us don't resist loudly and publicly--all of us will suffer the much worse consequences of living under total oppression. And whatever courses of action we choose, we must remember that this legislative "revolution" against We the People will not be stopped by politeness. It will not be stopped by requests. It will not be stopped by "working within a system" governed by those who regard us as nothing but cattle. It will not be stopped by pleading for justice from those who will resort to any degree of trickery or violence to rule us. It will not be stopped unless we are willing to risk our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honors to stop it. I think of the words of Winston Churchill: "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." *********************** NOTES on the laws listed above: 1. (Employee database) Welfare Reform Bill, H.R. 3734; became public law 104-193 on 8/22/96; see section 453A. 2. (Health care crimes) Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, H.R. 3103; became public law 104-191 on 8/21/96. 3. (Asset confiscation for citizenship change) Same law as #2; see sections 511-513. 4, 5, and 6. (anti-gun laws) Omnibus Appropriations Act, H.R. 3610; became public law 104-208 on 9/30/96. 7 and 8. (Terrorism & secret trials) Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, S. 735; became public law 104-132 on 4/24/96; see all of Title III, specifically sections 302 and 219; also see all of Title IV, specifically sections 401, 501, 502 and 503. 9. (De facto national ID card) Began life in the Immigration Control and Financial Responsibility Act of 1996, sections 111, 118, 119, 127 and 133; was eventually folded into the Omnibus Appropriations Act, H.R. 3610 (which was itself formerly called the Defense Appropriations Act--but we wouldn't want to confuse anyone, here, would we?); became public law 104-208 on 9/30/96; see sections 656 and 657 among others. 10. (Health care database) Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, H.R. 3103; became public law 104-191 on 8/21/96; see sections 262, 263 and 264, among others. The various provisions that make up the full horror of this database are scattered throughout the bill and may take hours to track down.; this one is stealth legislation at its utmost sneakiest. And one final, final note: Although I spent aggravating hours verifying the specifics of these bills (a task I swear I will never waste my life on again!), the original list of bills at the top of this article was NOT the result of extensive research. It was simply what came off the top of my head when I thought of Big Brotherish bills from the 104th Congress. For all I know, Congress has passed 10 times more of that sort of thing. In fact, the worst "law" in the list--#9, the de facto national ID card--just came to my attention as I was writing this essay, thanks to the enormous efforts of Jackie Juntti and Ed Lyon and others, who researched the law. Think of it: Thanks to congressional stealth tactics, we had the long-dreaded national ID card legislation for five months, without a whisper of discussion, before freedom activists began to find out about it. Makes you wonder what else might be lurking out there, doesn't it? And on that cheery note--- THE END Copyrighted by Claire Wolfe. Permission to reprint freely granted, provided the article is reprinted in full and that any reprint is accompanied by this copyright statement. -- ===================================================================== LIBERTY NORTHWEST CONFERENCE AND DISCUSSION GROUP "The only Libertarian-oriented political discussion group on the Fidonet Z1 Backbone"... 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Re: random coincidences
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Scott Brickner writes: > If NetScape uses such a PRNG to select 40bit keys for SSL, then > the work to be done in brute-force search going on right now might > be *significantly* reduced by knowing the planes on which the > numbers lie. If the constants are particularly poor, there might > be as little as ten or twelve bits of real key. So who here knows 80x86 assembler, is handy with a debugger, and has a few hours of spare time to figure out the PRNG? andrew

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Re: SSL trouble
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Piete Brooks writes: > Let's not get implementations confused with algorithms ... We were > using ALPHA code when we started .... Pardon me here, as I don't mean to belittle your considerable efforts, but I think it was a mistake to make such loud announcements (posted to sci.crypt for instance) when the software was alpha! The software should have been tested and stable before the general public was invited to participate and "see how fast we can break SSL" As expected, lots of people tried to participate and the software just couldn't handle it. How many patched versions of the client software were distributed after the effort had started? If you want to do it as fast as possible, you can't be constantly updating your client software. > With BETA clients, a hierarchy and select/poll loops, I reckon a > server would stand a chance. I think protocol issues are a Red Herring. If your server had been able to handle more than one client at a time it would have stood a chance. Why didn't it fork? Sure, forking isn't the most efficient way to handle multiple clients, but HTTP servers (as well as SMTP and FTP) manage to handle hundreds of thousands of requests each day that way. One client at a time with a 30-second timeout was just plain dumb... I would recommend thorough testing of the software on many platforms and with realistic loads before the next public effort (there are plenty of willing testers on the cypherpunks list). I tried to join in the effort and after discovering that the client software was firing off multiple brutessl processes, I decided to wait until the client stabilized. I attempted to reject the keyspace I allocated through the WWW interface, but that didn't even work!! andrew

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Re: Masons and Fnords
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >--Tim May, 34th Degree Mason, former resident of Alexandria, home of the >Masonic Temple. Now this is modest understatement with regard to this MT, the Godzilla of Masonic Temples, worth a side trip from the Capital of the Freeh World. You won't believe your eyes at this pyramid scheme putting the originals at Giza to shame. That over-reaching Alexandria Masonic Temple is matched only by the Mormon in Utah and the Buddhist in W.VA and St. Peters and Angor Wat and ... Billy Gates' Xanadu. Oh my, we archies yearn for return of the big piles staircasing to any jesus that moves your mountains of loot from your temple to ours.

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