December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by net10＠mail.domain-serv.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: I need a compiler!
by Iain Collins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> And J-Dog, what is up with the fucked up lingo...This ain't the movies... >fucked up lingo? gee, I am very sorry if your small mind can not make out >my words.. but I can assure you that this is NOT fucked up lingo... go >read some h4x0r Br0s and then tell me about how fuct up my lingo is.... > >Latez >JD > >btw... congrats on your really kool superl33t juno.com account.. you are >r33t now. Both of you lose all all guru/elite points accumulated thus far by wasting bandwidth due to (repeatedly) inapproproately posting to the CypherPunks mailling list. Doh! Iain Collins, icollins(a)sol.co.uk

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Reeves 5/15/98 conclusion
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 5/31/98 7:03 PM Orlin I erred by not transcribing Reeve's conclusion in his Friday 5/15/1998 Albuquerque Journal editorial Our policy is not stupid. It's hypocritical and delusionary, but not stupid. What was stupid was to actually believe that countries like India, Pakistan, China, and Iran and Israel, too, would act on American words and illusions rather than on their own national interests and fears. This American blunder of intelligence and intellect is not another inside-the-beltway, Ken-and-Monica joke. This is an affair of state, a failure of state. Officials should not be subpoenaed or mocked; they should resign or be fired. Let ALL hope for release of the documents requested at http://www.jya.com/whp052898.htm and peaceful settlement of another American blunder of intelligence. Later bill

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punching the Great FASCIST Satan in the nose
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 6/1/98 7:16 PM John Young The SAND report you posted at http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm was a DELIBERATE attempt to send NSA a message. I had some help from Sandia classification. Bill Subject: refrigerator magnet Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:16:01 -0600 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> To: masanori fushimi <fushimi(a)misojiro.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk Monday 6/1/98 6:05 PM Masanori I put the refrigerator magnet 1945 509th COMPOSITE GROUP 1995 FIRST ATOMIC BOMBARDMENT 50th ANNIVERSARY in the mail to you today. Reason I sent the magnet is to show THAT THERE ARE SOME REALLY-SICK MINDS [see reverse side of magnet] IN POWER in the US. Just got off the phone with John Young. Governments, including Japan, TRY to mess with peoples' minds. There is a book on this. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/quicksearch-query/002-2147604-1106833 David Felton But I have a solution. I do not read e-mail. At this time. I also believe in what Kahn wrote Thursday, March 20, 1980, 09:30 David Kahn addressed Congress, the Committee on Government Operations. Kahn stated to the committee, A final benefit is that refusing to restrict cryptologic studies erects yet another rampart against the chipping away of American liberties. Is this rampart, again, worth the danger to national security? Yes, because the danger is not as acute as the N.S.A. wishes people to see it. N.S.A. wants people to think that publication of cryptologic material would slam shut its window into the Third World countries. In fact such publication has little effect ... The national security dangers are not so great as to dismantle individual freedom. For all of these reasons, then, no limitation should be placed on the study of cryptology. And beyond them all lies something more fundamental, in the end, will probably prevent any restrictions anyway. It is called the First Amendment. I thank you. I hope you see that I am using the seventh amendment. http://www.jya.com/whp052898.htm And even more adamantly I believe For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul. Kahn on Codes page 172 Best regards bill

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subscribe richardt@midgard.net
by Richard Threadgill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Pauline Hanson's speech in parliament
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

G'day, The media are once again blatantly misrepresenting the issues that Pauline Hanson raised in parliament yesterday. We would invite you to see for yourself a verbatim transcript of what she said and view direct links to the ATSIC and UN home pages which confirm her concerns on the issues raised such as the planned "formation of independent Aboriginal states" in Australia. View: http://www.gwb.com.au/un.html Be informed! Do not believe the lies the media tell. Please print out her speech and distribute it freely. GWB Scott Balson

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Last Call For Participation - RAID 98
by dac＠zurich.ibm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Last Call For Participation - RAID 98 (also available at http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) First International Workshop on the Recent Advances in Intrusion Detection September 14-15, 1998 Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium We solicit your participation in the first International Workshop on the Recent Advances in Intrusion Detection (RAID 98). This workshop, the first in an anticipated annual series, will bring together leading figures from academia, government, and industry to talk about the current state of intrusion detection technologies and paradigms from the research and commercial perspectives. Research into and development of automated intrusion detection systems (IDS) has been under way for nearly 10 years. By now a number of systems have been deployed in the commercial or government arenas, but all are limited in what they do. At the same time, the numerous research and prototype systems developed have been more engineering than scientific efforts, with scant quantitative performance figures. As we survey the field of automated intrusion detection, we are faced with many questions: 1. What research questions have yet to be answered (or even asked) about IDS? 2. What are the open challenges, limitations, and fundamental concerns about present intrusion detection methodologies? 3. What metrics can we use to measure IDS performance and thus compare different systems and methodologies? These measurements should highlight the successes and expose the limitations of current IDS approaches. 4. What factors are inhibiting transfer of research ideas into functional deployed systems? How can those be addressed? 5. What is the role of a deployed IDS? How should or can it fit in with other security systems? 6. What are the typical IDS operating environments? What can be done to configure IDS to unique operating environments? 7. What are the challenges for IDS in very large environments, such as the Internet? 8. Is it time to contemplate IDS standards? What are the advantages and disadvantages of standardizing components of IDS? What forums (e.g., IETF, ISO) would be appropriate for pursuing such standards? 9. What are the problems of turning the results of intrusion detection tools into legally reliable evidence? What are the problems of admissibility and of courtroom presentation? We invite proposals and panels that explore these questions or any other aspect of automated intrusion detection. We especially solicit proposals and panels that address: 1. New results related to intrusion detection methodologies and technologies. 2. Innovative ways of thinking about intrusion detection; for example, the applicability of R&D in the fields of survivable and/or dependable systems, data mining, etc. 3. User experiences and lessons learned from fielded intrusion detection systems. 4. IDS for emerging computer environments (e.g., Java, CORBA, and NT). 5. Commercial intrusion detection systems. We have scheduled RAID 98 immediately before ESORICS 98, at the same time as CARDIS 98, and at the same location as both of these conferences. This provides a unique opportunity for the members of these distinct, yet related, communities to participate in all these events and meet and share ideas during joined organized external events. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS ***************** Marc Dacier (IBM Zurich Research Laboratory, Switzerland) Kathleen Jackson (Los Alamos National Laboratory, USA) PROGRAM COMMITTEE ***************** Matt Bishop (University of California at Davis, USA) Dick Brackney (National Security Agency, USA) Yves Deswarte (LAAS-CNRS & INRIA, France) Baudouin Le Charlier (Universite de Namur, Belgium) Stuart Staniford-Chen (University of California at Davis, USA) Rowena Chester (University of Tennessee, USA) Deborah Frincke (University of Idaho, USA) Tim Grance (National Institute of Standards and Technology, USA) Sokratis Katsikas (University of the Aegean, Greece) Jean-Jacques Quisquater (Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium) Mark Schneider (National Security Agency, USA) Marv Schaefer (Arca Systems, USA) Peter Sommer (London School of Economics & Political Science, England) Steve Smaha (Free Agent, USA) Gene Spafford (Purdue University, USA) Chris Wee (University of California at Davis, USA) Kevin Ziese (Cisco, USA) SUBMISSIONS *********** The program committee invites proposals for both technical and general interest talks and panels. Each talk or panel submission must contain: 1) A separate title page with: The type of submission (talk or panel); The title or topic; and The name(s) of the speaker or panel chair and probable panelists, with their organizational affiliation(s), telephone and FAX numbers, postal address, and Internet electronic mail address. 2) A brief biography of each participant. 3) The time desired for the talk or panel. Talk proposals must also include an abstract that is a maximum of 600 words in length. Papers are not required, but if included as an addendum, will be used as supplementary information for the evaluation of the talk proposal. The program committee will allocate each accepted presenter either a 15 or 30-minute slot for the talk, based on the complexity and interest of the proposed topic and the wishes of the speaker. The presenter will be informed the slot length when notified of acceptance. Panel proposals must also include a description that is a maximum of 300 words, the format of the presentation, and short rationale for the panel. The program committee will allocate accepted panel sessions one to two-hour time slots, based on the complexity and interest of the proposed topic, the number of panelists, and the wishes of the panel chair. The panel chair will be informed the slot length when notified of acceptance. All proposals must be in English. Plan to give all panels and talks in English. We must receive all proposals before June 15, 1998. We strongly prefer they be submitted by e-mail to raid98(a)zurich.ibm.com. Various formats (ASCII, postscript, Word, WordPro, Framemaker, and LaTex) are acceptable. If necessary, hardcopy proposals may be sent to: Marc Dacier Global Security Analysis Lab IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Saeumerstrasse 4 CH-8803 Rueschlikon Switzerland Each submission will be acknowledged by e-mail. If acknowledgment is not received within seven days, please contact the one of the General Co-Chairs. A preliminary program will be available at the RAID web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) by August 1, 1998. CORPORATE SPONSORS ****************** We solicit interested organizations to contribute to student travel expenses for RAID 98. Corporate sponsorship will cost 2500 US$, and will entitle the organization to four general attendance workshop passes. Please contact a General Co-Chair for more information. REGISTRATION ************ Registration will open on 1 August 1998, at which point detailed registration information (including a list of recommended hotels) will be provided at the RAID 98 web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) Travel instructions to Louvain-la-Neuve are available at http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/crypto/acces-lln.html (courtesy of the UCL Crypto Group). Registration will close on 21 August 1998. Late registration will continue until 4 September 1998, but only on a space-available basis, and will include a penalty of 50 US$ (in addition to the fees specified below). Fees will be levied on a sliding scale, as follows: Student: $200 Speaker or Panel Member: 250 US$ General attendance: 350 US$ This fee will include workshop sessions, banquet, hosted reception, luncheons, light breakfast service, and coffee and refreshment breaks. There will be no special rate for one-day or other limited attendance. Payment in full will be required at registration. We are negotiating a registration discount for those attending both the ESORICS conference and the RAID or CARDIS workshops, and for interchangeable workshop registration. Further information will be available when detailed registration information is posted. PROCEEDINGS *********** On-line workshop proceedings will be posted on the RAID web site (http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98) immediately following the workshop. It will include: 1) The final program; 2) A list of corporate sponsors; 3) A list of attendees (subject to each attendee's approval); 4) The submitted abstract and slides used by each speaker; 5) The submitted description and rationale for each panel; 6) The slides used by each panelist; and, 7) Written position statements from each panelist. In addition, the most outstanding workshop participants will be invited to submit an analogous formal paper to a special RAID edition of the refereed journal "Computer Networks and ISDN Systems." IMPORTANT DATES *************** Deadline for submission: 15 June 1998 Registration opens: 1 August 1998 Notification of proposal acceptance or rejection: 1 August 1998 Preliminary program posted to web: 1 August 1998 Registration closes: 21 August 1998 Late registration closes: 4 September 1998 Workshop: 14-15 September 1998 MORE INFORMATION **************** For further information contact one of the General Co-chairs: Marc Dacier IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Switzerland E-mail: dac(a)zurich.ibm.com Tel.: +41-1-724-85-62 Fax.: +41-1-724-89-53 Kathleen Jackson Los Alamos National Laboratory USA E-mail: kaj(a)lanl.gov Tel.: +41-1-724-86-29 Fax.: +41-1-724-89-53 The RAID 98 web site: http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98, The ESORICS 98 web site: http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/esorics98. The CARDIS 98 web site: http://www.dice.ucl.ac.be/cardis98/

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CARDIS 98: smart card research
by Jean-Jacques Quisquater 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CARDIS Conference Announcement Final Call for Papers and Panels ------------------------------------------------------------- THIRD SMART CARD RESEARCH AND ADVANCED APPLICATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 14-16, 1998 UCL, LOUVAIN-LA-NEUVE, BELGIUM ------------------------------------------------------------ Aims and Goals Smart cards, or IC cards, offer a huge potential for information processing purposes. The portability and processing power of IC cards allow for highly secure conditional access and reliable distributed information systems. There are IC cards available that can perform highly sophisticated cryptographic computations. The applicability of IC cards is currently limited mainly by our imagination; the information processing power that can be gained by using IC cards remains as yet mostly untapped and is not well understood. Here lies a vast uncovered research area which we are only beginning to assess, and which will have a great impact on the eventual success of the technology. The research challenges range from electrical engineering on the hardware side to tailor-made cryptographic applications on the software side, and their synergies. Many currently existing events are mainly devoted to commercial and application aspects of IC cards. In contrast, the CARDIS conferences aim to bring together researchers who are active in all aspects of the design of IC cards and related devices and environments, such as to stimulate synergy between different research communities and to offer a platform for presenting the latest research advances. CARDIS 1994, sponsored by the International Federation for Information Processing (IFIP), held in November 1994 in Lille, France, successfully brought together representatives from leading IC research centers from all over the world. CARDIS 1996 was the second occasion for the IC card community in this permanent activity. CARDIS 1996 was organized jointly by the Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science at Amsterdam (CWI) and the Department of Logic and Computer Science of the University of Amsterdam (UvA). Organization General Chair Catherine Rouyer (UCL, Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium) Program Chairs Jean-Jacques Quisquater (UCL, Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium) Bruce Schneier (Counterpane, USA) Program Committee (in construction) William Caelli (QUT, Brisbane, Australia) Vincent Cordonnier (R2DP, Lille, France) David Chan (HP Labs, Bristol, UK) Jean-François Dhem (Belgacom, Belgium) J. Eloff (RAU, South Africa) Marc Girault (CNET, France) Louis Guillou (CNET, France) Pieter Hartel (Southampton, UK and Amsterdam, The Netherlands) Peter Honeyman (Michigan U., USA) Pierre Paradinas (Gemplus, France) Qiang (Acad. Sciences, Beijing, China) Michel Ugon (Bull CP-8, France) Doug Tygar (Carnegie-Mellon Univ., USA) Anthony Watson (ECU, Perth, Australia) Wijang Zhang (Shangai, China) Steering Committee Chair Vincent Cordonnier (Rd2p, Lille, France) Local Organization Catherine Rouyer (UCL) Benoit Macq (UCL) SUBMISSIONS Submissions will be judged on relevance, originality, significance, correctness, and clarity. Each paper should explain its contribution in both general and technical terms, identifying what has been accomplished, saying why it is significant, and comparing it with previous work. Authors should make every effort to make the technical content of their papers understandable to a broad audience. Papers should be written in English. Working papers, research in progress are welcome. Authors should submit: an extended abstract (more or less 5 pages) either by email to jjq(a)dice.ucl.ac.be (we prefer the electronic submission) using one of the following formats: postscript, rtf, latex or word 6. or send 12 copies of the paper to Jean-Jacques Quisquater UCL/DICE Place du Levant, 3 B-1348 Louvain-la-Neuve Belgium The paper should be formatted using the LNCS format from Springer-Verlag, if possible. In any case, each paper should be accompanied by information submitted via email to jjq(a)dice.ucl.ac.be that consists of: * a single postal address and electronic mail address for communication * complete title, author and affiliation information * the abstract of the paper * a small selection of the keywords that appear on this call for papers, which best describes the contribution of the paper Preproceedings will be available at the conference. It is intended to publish the proceedings in the Springer-Verlag LNCS series. Authors of accepted papers may be expected to sign a copyright release form. IMPORTANT DATES Submission deadline June 15, 1998 Acceptance notification July 15, 1998 Camera ready paper due Augustus 15, 1998 Conference September 14-16 1998 THEMES Technology/hardware IC architecture and techniques Memories and processor design Read/Write unit engineering Specific co-processors for cryptography Biometry Communication technologies Interfaces with the user, the service suppliers Reliability and fault tolerance Special devices Standards Software The operating system, Java, ... Models of data management Communication protocols IC Card design Tools for internal or external software production Validation and verification Methodology for application design Electronic payment systems Road pricing Internet payment systems Untraceability Algorithms Formal specification and validation Identification Authentication Cryptographic protocols for IC cards Complexity Security Models and schemes of security Security interfaces Hardware and software implementation Security of information systems including cards Formal verification of transaction sets Protocol verification IC Cards, individuals and the society IC cards and privacy Owner access of data IC cards: political and economical aspects Is the IC card going to change legislation? Patents, copyrights Future of IC cards Innovative technologies Moving towards the pocket intelligence Convergence with portable PCs, lap tops etc ... PCMCIA Innovative applications Design methodology of applications IC cards and the information system Examples of new applications Requirements for innovative cards Standards Emerging standards Compliance and approval

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RE: DNA sequencing info needed
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's now a cliche of bio-terrorism bellringers that "this stuff scares me silly," with scientists, pols and first responders now comically repeating the code. A technological artist on Long Island has set up in his studio a collection of the most deadly germs known on earth, in a small glass display, with labels and descriptions of what they are and can do: dosages, kill ratios, distribution methods, sources of specimens and food supplies, URLs for bio-terrorists. He invites art connoisseurs to visit. They walk around the room looking for the show, see little except typical suburban living room furniture, then spy the glass tank, approach, read, freeze, then begin to tremble. Some scream, some faint, some vomit in horror, claw clothing, stampede for the exit. The artist tries to reassure them it's only a carefully constructed simulation. None believe him. They shiver outside in the yard and whimper accusations of terrorism, which, he confesses, is the truth of bio-terrorism, to scare sane people silly.

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Re: subscribe richardt@midgard.net
by Jim Dennis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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My knowledge of NSA 'deficient' crypto algorithms
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wednesday 6/3/98 10:55 AM jensul So as not to misspell J[G]en[n]ifer. You might be interested to look at the University of Southern California home page on the gfsr. My co-author Lewis was one of my former ms and phd students. NSA's crypto algorithms are okay - for hardware implementation - but are classified, in my opinion, to possibly hide embarrassment. Some of us at Sandia offered to help NSA fix its 'deficient' crypto algorithms. For money, of course. It is EASY to make a BLUNDER in crypto. For theoretical or implementation reasons. NSA knows this too. And is pretty cautious about what it does. I partially read another crypto-related article at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C22705%2C00.html?st.ne.fd.gif.j Best bill Subject: Marc Dacier Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 07:34:04 -0600 From: bill payne <billp(a)nmol.com> To: jy(a)jya.com CC: dac(a)zurich.ibm.com, kaj(a)lanl.gov Wednesday 6/3/98 7:25 AM John Young I looked at http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~dac/RAID98 I was in Marc Dacier's (IBM Zurich Research Laboratory, Switzerland) office last April in Zurich. Dacier was quizzing me about what the US was concerned about, secuity-wise, inside weapons systems. Spiking, of course. And it was so nice to learn only yesterday that USC has a home page something I thought-up. http://www-hto.usc.edu/software/seqaln/doc/html/gfsr.3.html I SURE UNDERSTOOD the algorithms behind the NSA KG schematics Brian Snow showed me. Let's continue to hope for prompt settlement of the unfortunate matter BEFORE things get WORSE. And we can all get onto better and hopefully less destructive, http://www.aci.net/kalliste/, endeavors. Later bill

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[E-WRESTLING] New fed that's superior to all others ...
by SMODeLUX＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: PGP Keysigning Announcement page
by Robert Guerra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I would like to know if you could include a link the following www address which I have setup in the PGP FAQ that you maintain. If you place a link to the page on your www page...please let me know so that I can place a reciprocal link. - --- In an attempt to encourage PGP keysigning parties I have created a PGP Keysigning Announcement page. (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3378/pgpparty.html) It is my hope that with time it will be a place where PGP users can know when & where the next keysigning session (in thier area) will be held. If you know of a keysigning party that is held anywhere please let me know so that I can list it. (any other comments or suggestions also welcome) regards robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5.3 Comment: Digital signatures verify author and unaltered content iQEVAwUBNXVj2Is5aKqJYZvFAQF+Wwf9HPcukFKiYhFYN5h8dIFNApF8/+89kudu NWKWLy5WEEDvcK12Unf0i9Ihwch8a5hANb3oP5R57hNttUUJa+7Lb4O5pg/D52XM 7aHu+JHW/4ZCVhGUAqBvuV+rJkRZJgvCe1vGC3JsB6V3vBm+pNEmyz5C9w7R00nW 7dTG4wXlzxda8fIPbcdOC8iZYR3j2YeEiQvuV5gktsx0VIk9ZLn1Pz4TqNQCTUmW qyVTZz5LV6EKsjr2/SM1OLIJkjNZyCYMqQZ3Bt/ZPMXKuaYmhcTyYOXggEuU2r9W 4mITGDuHItyUwV45lJUBCzZYYowSNBABOXGJ4fwkpKRKWo1Uuw0vZg== =EmIr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Robert Guerra - Email-> mailto:az096@freenet.toronto.on.ca ICQ #10266626 Home Page-> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3378 PGPKeys available on WWW Page & via finger://rguerra@flare.dynip.com

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17 Dec '03

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anonymous mailboxes
by Sprokkit Amhal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some time ago I heard about Lucky Green's then-immature scheme for anonymous email boxes, whereby a user can receive email and even a traffic analysis attacker is unable to glean information about who received what when. I forget exactly what ve called vis method... Is there a paper available anyplace? Has the scheme been validated mathematically? Has it been implemented? ::sprokkit:: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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NIST Publishes Draft FIPS for FKMI
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The NIST Technical Advisory Committee has published its final draft for a FIPS for the Federal Key Management Infrastructure and a letter from the chairman to the Secretary of Commerce on the completion of the task in preparation for the final meeting of the committee June 17-19: http://csrc.nist.gov/tacdfipsfkmi/ under the "June 1998" section We offer mirrors of the drafts: http://jya.com/nist-fkmi.htm (chairman's letter) http://jya.com/FIPS698.txt (the FIPS, 222K)

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Spamford's new business venture
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Seems Spamford has found yet another way to Make M0ney 0n the Net - as an expert witness for people suing spammers. The paper said he'll be working for the law firm that nailed him with a $2M case earlier this year. Sigh..... Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Meetings and PGP 6.0
by Max Inux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that Network General and Network Associates (McAfee) have merged (business wise aswell as buildings), I was wondering where the CypherPunks meetings are going to be at the old netgen building or the new (BIG) Network Associates (netass.com) building? And is it still gonna be at 12 on the second saturday of the month? (seeing as this saturday(first) is the NAI company picnic). And, has anyone here played with PGP 6.0 (still in developement). I hope they do more changes in the final, Photo ID's and the misc other changes. Thanks, Billy -- Max Inux (MaxInux(a)bigfoot.com) UIN: 207447, http://khercs.dyn.ml.org Strong Cryptography makes the world a safer place- PGP: 0x5CCFCA59 Or Kinky sex makes the world go round- Christie: Your in my sig too ^^ If Cryptography is outlawed, only outlaws will have cryptography ^^

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Fwd: NEWS - NRA Charles Heston speech
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 09:50:22 +0930 >From: SSAA <Sporting.Shooters.Association(a)adelaide.on.net> >Subject: NEWS - NRA Charles Heston speech >Organization: Sporting Shooters Association of Australia Speech by National Rifle Association First Vice President Charlton Heston Delivered at the Free Congress Foundation's 20th Anniversary Gala December 7, 1997 I like it when the party of Lincoln honors our free heritage. This nation has been blessed by the minds and mettle of many good people, and indeed Abe was among the best. A man of great moral character... a trait often lacking among our leaders. This is disturbing, but not without remedy. One good election can correct such ills. Above all, I hope those of us gathered here tonight have more in common with Mr. Lincoln than just party affiliation. Better that we grasp a common vision than simply wear the cloak. Even our President pretends to be a conservative when it suits him. We must be more than that. I know, I know... it is not easy. Imagine being point man for the National Rifle Association, preserving the right to keep and bear arms. Well, I ran for office, I was elected, and now I serve... as a moving target for pundits who've called me everything from "ridiculous" and "duped" to a "brain-injured, senile, crazy old man." Well, I guess that goes with the territory. But as I've stood in the cross hairs of those who aim at Second Amendment freedom, I've realized that guns are not the only issue, and I am not the only target. It is much, much bigger than that which is what I want to talk to you about. I have come to realize that a cultural war is raging across our land... storming our values, assaulting our freedoms, killing our self-confidence in who we are and what we believe, where we come from. How many of you here own a gun? A show of hands? How many own two or more guns? Thank you. I wonder how many of you in this room own guns but chose not to raise your hand? How many of you considered revealing your conviction about a constitutional right, but then thought better of it? Then you are a victim of the cultural war. You are a casualty of the cultural warfare being waged against traditional American freedom of beliefs and ideas. Now maybe you don't care one way or the other about owning a gun. But I could've asked for a show of hands on Pentecostal Christians, or pro-lifers, or right-to-workers, or Promise Keepers, or school voucher-ers, and the result would be the same. What if the same question were asked at your PTA meeting? Would you raise your hand if Dan Rather were in the back of the room there with a film crew? See? Good. Still, if you didn't, you have been assaulted and robbed of the courage of your convictions. Your pride in who you are, and what you believe, has been ridiculed, ransacked, plundered. It may be a war without bullet or bloodshed, but with just as much liberty lost: You and your country are less free. And you are not inconsequential people! You in this room, whom many would say are among the most powerful people on earth, you are shamed into silence! Because you embrace a view at odds with the cultural warlords. If that is the outcome of cultural war, and you are the victims, I can only ask the gravely obvious question: What'll become of the right itself? Or other rights not deemed acceptable by the thought police? What other truth in your heart will you disavow with your hand? I remember when European Jews feared to admit their faith. The Nazis forced them to wear six-pointed yellow stars sewn on their chests as identity badges. It worked. So what color star will they pin on our coats? How will the self- styled elite tag us? There may not be a Gestapo officer on every street corner yet, but the influence on our culture is just as pervasive. Now, I am not really here to talk about the Second Amendment or the NRA, but the gun issue clearly brings into focus the war that's going on. Rank-and-file Americans wake up every morning, increasingly bewildered and confused at why their views make them lesser citizens. After enough breakfast- table TV promos hyping tattooed sex-slaves on the next Rikki Lake show, enough gun-glutted movies and tabloid talk shows, enough revisionist history books and prime-time ridicule of religion, enough of the TV anchor who cocks her pretty head, clucks her tongue and sighs about guns causing crime and finally the message gets through: Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle class, Protestant, or even worse Evangelical Christian, Midwest, or Southern, or even worse rural, apparently straight, or even worse admittedly heterosexual, gun-owning or even worse NRA-card-carrying, average working stiff, or even worse male working stiff, because not only don't you count, you're a downright obstacle to social progress. Your tax dollars may be just as delightfully green as you hand them over, but your voice requires a lower decibel level, your opinion is less enlightened, your media access is insignificant, and frankly mister, you need to wake up, wise up and learn a little something about your new America...in fact, why don't you just sit down and shut up? That's why you don't raise your hand. That's how cultural war works. And you are losing. That's what happens when a generation of media, educators, entertainers and politicians, led by a willing president, decide the America they were born into isn't good enough any more. So they contrive to change it through the cultural warfare of class distinction. Ask the Romans if powerful nations have ever fallen as a result of cultural division. There are ruins around the world that were once the smug centers of small-minded, arrogant elitism. It appears that rather than evaporate in the flash of a split atom, we may succumb to a divided culture. Although my years are long, I was not on hand to help pen the Bill of Rights. And popular assumptions aside, the same goes for the Ten Commandments. Yet as an American and as a man who believes in God's almighty power, I treasure both. The Constitution was handed down to guide us by a bunch of those wise old dead white guys who invented this country. Now, some flinch when I say that. Why? It's true...they were white guys. So were most of the guys who died in Lincoln's name opposing slavery in the 1860s. So why should I be ashamed of white guys? Why is "Hispanic pride" or "black pride" a good thing, while "white pride" conjures up shaved heads and white hoods? Why was the Million Man March on Washington celebrated in the media as progress, while the Promise Keepers March on Washington was greeted with suspicion and ridicule? I'll tell you why: Cultural warfare. Now, Chuck Heston can get away with saying I'm proud of those wise old dead white guys because Jesse Jackson and Louie Farrakhan know I fought in their cultural war. I was one of the first white soldiers in the civil rights movement in 1961, long before it was fashionable in Hollywood believe me or in Washington for that matter. In 1963 I marched on Washington with Dr. Martin Luther King to uphold the Bill of Rights. I'm very proud of that. As vice- president of the NRA I am doing the same thing. But you don't see many other Hollywood luminaries speaking out on this one, do you? It's not because there aren't any. It's because they can't afford the heat. They dare not speak up for fear of CNN or the IRS or SAG or the ATF or NBC or even W-J-C. It saps the strength of our country when the personal price is simply too high to stand up for what you believe in. Today, speaking with the courage of your conviction can be so costly, the price of principle so high, that legislators won't lead so citizens can't follow, and so there is no army to fight back. That's cultural warfare. For instance: It's plain that our Constitution guarantees law-abiding citizens the right to own a firearm. But if I stand up and say so, why does the media assault me with such a slashing, sinister brand of derision filled with hate? Because Bill Clinton's cultural warriors want a penitent cleansing of firearms, as if millions of lawful gun owners should genuflect in shame and seek absolution by surrendering their guns. That's what is now literally happening in England and Australia, of course. Lines long lines of submissive citizens, threatened with imprisonment, are bitterly, reluctantly surrendering family heirlooms, guns that won their freedom, to the blast furnace. If that fact doesn't unsettle you, then you are already anesthetized, a ready victim of the cultural war. You know, I think, that I stand first in line in defense of free speech. But those who speak against the perverted and profane should be given as much due as those who profit by it. You also know I welcome cultural diversity. But those who choose to live on the fringe should not tear apart the seams that secure the fabric of our society. Now I've earned a fine and rewarding living in the motion picture industry, yet increasingly I find myself embarrassed by the dearth of conscience that drives the world's most influential art form. And I'm an example of what a lonely undertaking that can be. Nobody opposed the obscene rapper Ice-T until I stood at Time-Warner's stockholders meeting and was ridiculed by its president for wanting to take the floor to read Ice-T's lyrics. Since I held several hundred shares of stock he had no choice, though the media were barred. I read those lyrics to a stunned audience of average American people the stockholders who were shocked at the lyrics that advocating killing cops, sexually abusing women, and raping the nieces of our Vice-President. True, the good guys won that time though: Time-Warner fired Ice-T. The gay and lesbian movement is another good example. Many homosexuals are hugely talented artists and executives... also dear friends. I don't despise their lifestyle, though I don't share it. As long as gay and lesbian Americans are as productive, law-abiding and private as the rest of us, I think America owes them absolute tolerance. It's the right thing to do. But on the other hand, I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton's cultural shock troops participate in homosexual-rights fund-raisers but boycott gun- rights fund-raisers... and then claim it's time to place homosexual men in tents with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian relationships are somehow better served and more loved. Such demands have nothing to do with equality. They're about the currency of cultural war money and votes and the Clinton camp will let anyone in the tent if there's a donkey on his hat, or a check in the mail or some yen in the fortune cookie. Mainstream America is depending on you counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them. These people have precious little time or resources to battle misguided Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the feminists who preach that it's a divine duty for women to hate men, blacks who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the other, and all the New-Age apologists for juvenile crime, who see roving gangs as a means of youthful expression, sex as a means of adolescent merchandising, violence as a form of entertainment for impressionable minds, and gun bans as a means to lord-knows-what. We've reached that point in time when our national social policy originates on Oprah. I say it's time to pull the plug. Americans should not have to go to war every morning for their values. They already go to war for their families. They fight to hold down a job, raise responsible kids, make their payments, keep gas in the car, put food on the table and clothes on their backs, and still save a little for their final days in dignity. They prefer the America they built - where you could pray without feeling naive, love without being kinky, sing without profanity, be white without feeling guilty, own a gun without shame, and raise your hand without apology. They are the critical masses who find themselves under siege and are long for you to get some guts, stand on principle and lead them to victory in this cultural war. Now all this sounds a little Mosaic, the punch-line of my sermon is as elementary as the Golden Rule. In a cultural war, triumph belongs to those who arm themselves with pride in who they are and then do the right thing. Not the most expedient thing, not the politically correct thing, not what'll sell, but the right thing. And you know what? Everybody already knows what the right thing is. You, and I, President Clinton, even Ice-T, we all know. It's easy. You say wait a minute, you take a long look in the mirror, then into the eyes of your kids, your grandchildren, and you'll know what's right. Don't run for cover when the cultural cannons roar. Remember who you are and what you believe, and then raise your hand, stand up, and speak out. Don't be shamed or startled into lockstep conformity by seemingly powerful people. The maintenance of a free nation is a long, slow, steady process. And it is in your hands. Yes, we can have rules and still have rebels that's democracy. But as leaders you must we must do as Lincoln would do, confronted with the stench of cultural war: Do what's right. As Mr. Lincoln said, "With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us finish the work we are in... and then we shall save our country." Defeat the criminals and their apologists, oust the biased and bigoted, endure the undisciplined and unprincipled, but disavow the self-appointed social engineers whose relentless arrogance fuels this vicious war against so much we hold so dear. Do not yield, do not divide, do not call a truce. Be fair, but fight back. It's the same blueprint our founding fathers left to guide us. Our enemies see it as the senile prattle of an archaic society. I still honor it as the United States Constitution, and that timeless document we call the Bill of Rights. Freedom is our fortune and honor is our saving grace. Thank you. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming. PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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Re: NEWS - NRA Charles Heston speech
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

McVeigh is alot better than Heston (at lying-type propaganda. I couldn't even call McVeigh's "lying-type." It was filled with MUCH more fact than Heston's speech.) The glaring over-all problem I see with his speech, is his hypocracy when it comes to the 1st amendment (yea, I know he *claimed* to be a 1st amendments rights supporter, BUT his actions (the rest of the speech) counters that claim.) Here's why they want to remove our freedom of speech. It's because - dig this Cypherpunks - 'The pen is mightier than the sword.' If they take away our ability to speak, and they keep their silly guns, guess what. Then they have the more powerful weapon. And dig this - yes it IS that simple. Stan

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Netcenter News - Volume 7
by netcenter-news＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Title: Netscape Netcenter News - May 1998 Welcome to Netcenter Netcenter is dedicated to the proposition that you should be able to find everything you need online in one place. This newsletter is one of the free benefits you receive for registering with a Netcenter program. Electronic commerce is creating one of the fastest growing marketplaces on the planet. Can small-scale entrepreneurs join the movement? Professional Connections Events Forum presents "E-Commerce and the Entrepreneur," featuring ZDNet's e-commerce expert Mitch Ratcliffe. Netscape proudly announces Netscape WebMail by USA.net, offering free web-based email accounts and value-added mail services, accessible from any computer across the globe. CNET honors Netscape Communicator with its Readers' Choice Award for Internet Excellence, noting that it far surpasses all other Net products and browser packages on the market. Enter to win a $5000 shopping spree from netMarket - the premier discount shopping club. Get guaranteed low prices and 5 percent cash back on purchases. This issue of Netcenter News is brought to you by the Netscape Store. NETCENTER EXPANDS BUSINESS CHANNEL WITH DEBUT OF NETSCAPE SMALL BUSINESS SOURCE Small Business Source is designed to provide small businesses with the latest news, information, and services online for managing and growing their businesses. Whether you simply use the Internet to conduct research or leverage it to run a business online, this unique, one-stop Internet destination provides the best and most current web-based content and services available to help small businesses succeed. Launched on May 11, Small Business Source provides visitors with a wealth of free information and resources as well as easy access to leading Internet-based business tools. Did you know that a hard drive crashes every 15 seconds? With Netscape Online Backup by Atrieva, you never have to worry about your data being safe. Need to communicate or collaborate with colleagues and clients more efficiently? With Netscape Virtual Office by Netopia, you can have your own web office up and running in minutes. All the resources you'll find in Small Business Source have been tailored to meet the needs of small businesses - from news provided by NewsEdge and content from the Mining Co. to special services from Amazon.com, Travelocity, and software.net. Small Business Source is the smart choice for growing your business. Visit it today! Want to get the latest version of Communicator? Upgrade now to Communicator 4.05, using SmartUpdate - the fast, easy, and personalized way to keep your software up-to-date. Need to get the message out ASAP? Get real-time communication with Netscape AOL Instant Messenger - just released for the Macintosh. Stores closed? Tired? Curious about shopping online? Try Netcenter Marketplace. Your one stop for great deals on books, music, travel, and much more. Thanks to everyone who took last month's small-business survey! Here is what you told us: 50 percent of you buy products online 28 percent of you sell products online 44 percent of you have a web page or home page for your company, while 56 percent have yet to make one the service you'd most like to see added to Netcenter is a contact manager This month, tell us what you'd like in an online community! Netscape respects your online time and Internet privacy. If you would prefer not to receive future issues, click here to to send an unsubscribe email or reply to this message with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Copyright © 1998. Netscape Communications Corporation. All rights reserved.

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L@@KING FOR A FRIEND or LOVER!! NOT A SEX SITE!!
by waekualo98＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

LIVE***LIVE***LIVE***LIVE***LIVE***LIVE***LIVE***LIVE **THE INTERNETS MOST POPULAR PARY LINES!!!!!!!! Join the Party Line!! It's your chance to be the life of the party. Meet new and interesting people who want to get to know you ALOT better. Or if your preferences are a little more Intimate we have the connections for you. 1 on 1 Fantasy, talk live with the opposite sex. For those with a bit more spice & energy talk live with 2 count em' 2 members of the opposite sex. Double your pleasure & Double your fun. For people with a different lifestyle we have live talks for Gays & Lesbians. You can let go and be yourself with someone who understands & shares your feelings. Maybe you're looking to find that special someone who's also looking for you. This is the safest, easiest way to connect with a new person. Skip the meat markets & all of the guess work. Spend your time choosing who & when, not wasting time hoping for maybe. Our Recorded Date Line is the key to all your dreams coming true. We have Recorded Fantasy Lines for those who might be a little shy, or who just like to be entertained without joining in on a dialogue. You won't be disappointed! 1-900-993-3284 Must be 18 or older (2.50-3.99min) You will have the choice of anyone of the services when y

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twa 800, semiconductors & internet, polyforth & Java
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday 6/5/98 9:11 AM J Orlin Grabbe Albuquerque Journal w 6/3/98 TWA 800 Explosion Not on High Seas NEW YORK - A judge said Tuesday that the TWA 800 explosion did not occur on the high seas, a ruling that could make victim eligible for additional money in their lawsuit. against the airline and the aircraft manufacturers. ... http://www.aci.net/kalliste/navy800.htm and other electronic articles on TWA 800 at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 Motorola To Cut 15,000 Jobs No Word of Impact In Albuquerque The Associated Press CHICAGO - Motorola Inc., struggling to weather the Asian economic crisis, said Thursday it is eliminating 15,000 jobs over the coming 12 months. Profits plunged 45 percent to !180 million ... But in the same issue Chip Sales Expected to Rebound Semiconductor Group Predicts Double-Digit Growth in 1999 The Associated Press SAN JOSE, Calif. Asias weak economies, a slow-down in personal computer sales and an overabundance of memory chips will push own semiconductor sales nearly 2 percent this year, according to an industry group. But those troubles are expected to ease in the second half of 1998, boosting sales and returning the industry to double-digit growth next year and beyond, the Semiconductor Industry Association said. Thanks to the unprecedented growth of Internet usage, we now expect the industrys expansion to occur in 1999 as semiconductor growth rates return to their historical averages of 17 percent or more, said SIA president George Scalise. ... John Young Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 India, Pakistan Nuke Claims Exaggerated, Scientists Say By David S. Cloud Chicago Tribune WASHINGTON - American scientists monitoring remote sites where India and Pakistan detonated nucleardevices sharply question public claims by both nations about the size and number of weapons tested. Scientists examining seismic data on the tests, picked up at monitoring stations around the globe, say that both India and Pakistan have exaggerated the explosive power of the detonations and perhaps even the total number of devices tested. The Clinton administration has similar doubts about the claims by the South Asian rivals. Pakistani officials apparently disconnect a seismic monitor that would have given outsiders more precise data about their tests. And two nuclear devices that India claimed to have set off were not detected by a single known seismic monitor station anywhere in the world. ... The gap between the claims and the seismic data suggests that the test may not have gone as well as each side announced, said experts interviewed by the Chicago Tribune. The discrepancies in monitoring data prove ammunition for some critics of an international test-ban treaty. These critics argue that the lack of data for Indias announced second round of nuclear weapons tests calls into question whether clandestine nuclear test can be accurately monitored. ... Jim Durham, Sandias seismic CTBT project leader http://jya.com/da/whpda.htm, told me that the coupling [impendance match?] between the bomb and the surrounding ground had much to do with what a seismic station receives. Lastly, and what I think is the most important, Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 USS Yorktown Found Explorer Located Titanic Wreck By Randolph E. Schmidt The Associated Press WASHINGTON - Three miles under water, the USS Yorktowns four-barrel anti-aircraft gun still aims skyward 56 years after the aircraft carrier went to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, a victim of the Battle of Midway. Photos and video of the giant ship, sitting upright on the ocean floor, were unveiled Thursday by Robert Ballard, the undersea explorer who found the wrecks of the Titanic and the German battleship Bismarck. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/98/midway/ REASON is that Ballard uses PolyForth http://av.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=polyforth&z=2&hc=0&hs=0 in the submersible robots, Jeff Allsup of Woods Hole told me. Allsup downloaded ALL of the code and documentation from my Forth http://jya.com/f86/whpf86.htm book from Vesta in Colorado at 1,200 bps. Allsup told me this took several days. This is same software technology which is used for the US satellite program. http://groucho.gsfc.nasa.gov/forth/ Java http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/meyer/jvmref/ appears also to be a byte threaded code technology. Lets hope for settlement of the unfortunate matter so that we can all got on to other constructive projects. I would like to do some more with http://www-hto.usc.edu/software/seqaln/doc/html/gfsr.3.html and revise http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2 for the 80C32 communicating over ieee 1284 ecp to a Windows PC. Later, bill

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