December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: IP: Wired News: Y2Kaboom?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Make that "inappropriate" behavior. >The fact that one entity is enaging in appropriate behavior does not excuse the >rest. -Declan At 11:30 AM 11-16-98 -0800, b!X wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Declan McCullagh wrote: > ># I hope that in the future, "Believer" would see fit not to distribute Wired ># News articles in full. Not only does it violate civil and criminal ># copyright law, but it's also just plain rude. > >Hey Congress gets to insert the full test of articles into the Congressional >Record as much they want, why can't we? ;) > > >- b!X (Guerrilla Techno-fetishist @ GEEK Force) >

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Re: IP: Wired News: Y2Kaboom?
by Matt Elliott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:20 PM -0500 11/16/98, Declan McCullagh wrote: > The fact that one entity is enaging in appropriate behavior does not excuse > the rest. I think it is appropriate. Take "Believer" to court and hope I don't happen to be sitting on the jury. Matt <mailto:melliott@ncsa.uiuc.edu>

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Re: Attempt by UK govt to plug tax hole...
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:13:46 EST, Nilsphone(a)aol.com wrote: >NOTE the word "harmful" below, used three times, mainly meaning >"harmful competition by offering lower tax rates". etc. OK guys, it seems the topic interests you... :-) I just thought of dropping it and see what happen... :-) Please *don't* forget to Cc me if you post only to Cypherpunks since I'm not on it anymore. I'm on e$pam though (e$(a)vmeng.com) Ciao jfa " There can be no compromise on basic principles. There can be no compromise on moral issues. There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction." -Ayn Rand "The government has no source of revenue, except the taxes paid by the producers. To free itself -for a while- from the limits set by reality, the government initiates a credit con game on a scale which the private manipulator could not dream of. It borrows money from you today, which is to be repaid with money it will borrow from you day after tomorrow, and so on. This is known as "deficit financing." It is made possible by the fact that the government cuts the connection between goods and money. It issues paper money, which is used as a claim check on actually existing goods-but that money is not backed by any goods, it is not backed by gold, it is backed by nothing. It is a promissory note issued to you in exchange for your goods, to be paid by you (in the form of taxes) out of your future production." -Ayn Rand

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Re: Attempt by UK govt to plug tax hole...
by Nilsphone＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NOTE the word "harmful" below, used three times, mainly meaning "harmful competition by offering lower tax rates". Now, this is very interesting, if unsurprising. Theoretically, there is no particular reason why competition in tax rates, i.e. essentially in the provision of government services at a lower price, should be "harmful" in any sense differing from competition in supplying any other service. Naturally, the supplier of a particular service (or product) tends to think of competition in his own arena as "harmful", whereas competition in any other is generally a "public good". This is obviously nothing but self- serving; the putative robber barons of the last century presumably thought of competiton in petroleum, rail transportation and whatnot as "harmful", as did United and American when airline service opened to competition some 20 years ago. What makes the assertions of the British and other G7 governments particularly irksome is that they simultanaeously advocate competition in most areas, except their own, and at the same time make a - usually implicit - claim to represent some kind of public good, and a claim to holding the moral high ground. Regards Nils Andersson In a message dated 1998-11-16 12:34 Pacific Standard Time, jf_avon(a)citenet.net writes: > > From Caribbean Week, business section, updated Nov. 15 1998 (?) > > ================================================= > Global initiatives present challenges to BVI > > BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS - Proposed initiatives created for "combating > harmful preferential tax regimes" could present special challenges to > offshore > financial centres such as the BVI, Chief Minister, Ralph O'Neal has told the > Legislative Council. >............. > the UK > Government's resolve to tackle harmful tax competition......... > Of the concerns noted by the Chief Minister were OCED initiatives to counter > the spread to tax havens and harmful preferential regimes............

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IP: 61% of IT Professionals Plan to Pull Money from Banks
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: 61% of IT Professionals Plan to Pull Money from Banks Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:05:20 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: http://www.garynorth.com/y2k/detail_.cfm/3072 Category: Programmers'_Views Date: 1998-11-13 17:53:32 Subject: 61% of IT Professionals Plan to Pull Money from Banks Link: http://year2000.dci.com/articles/1998/11/11poll.htm Comment: In an on-line poll of over 6,000 IT professionals (high), 61% plan to take cash out of their banks. This is from DCI (Nov. 11). * * * * * * * * . . . Almost eighty percent are taking steps to minimize the impact of the Millennium Bug : 62.4 percent plan to avoid traveling by plane, 61.5 percent will withdraw money from the bank, and 58.6 percent will purchase extra supplies in case of a shortage. Link: http://year2000.dci.com/articles/1998/11/11poll.htm November 11, 1998 Pointing the Y2K Finger An online Year 2000 poll conducted recently by ZD Network News and The Harris Poll Online reveals a mixture of confidence and prudent preparation among a group of Y2K-savvy professionals. Of the 6,320 people who filled out the survey, 56.8 percent identified themselves as full-or part-time I.T. professionals. Not surprisingly, 84 percent claimed to have a "good" or "complete" understanding of the Year 2000 problem. More than half are clear on who is to blame. Sixty-one percent of respondents believe those who build, sell and use computers, along with business leaders, are responsible for the Year 2000 problem. And don't look to place the blame on Uncle Sam. Only 23.6 percent of those surveyed say they will blame the government in the event of Y2K disruptions. Happily, the news isn't all bad. A large percentage of respondents (75.2 percent) said their companies have taken steps toward Y2K compliance. Sixty-two percent believe their company will be able to make the necessary changes and create contingency plans in time to meet the Jan. 1st deadline. A healthy 84.8 percent of respondents whose companies are actively working on Y2K believe compliance goals will be reached. However, only 24.1 percent reported that the process was already complete. Over half of those surveyed feel they are more concerned about Y2K than the majority of people. But panic has yet to set in. When asked to predict the impact of Y2K only 21.3 percent said they thought it would be "very serious." Almost two-thirds believe the results of Y2K will fall somewhere in the middle ground between "negligible effects" and "doomsday." Respondents are taking precautions nonetheless. Roughly three-fourths of survey participants have checked their PCs for Y2K compliance. Almost eighty percent are taking steps to minimize the impact of the Millennium Bug : 62.4 percent plan to avoid traveling by plane, 61.5 percent will withdraw money from the bank, and 58.6 percent will purchase extra supplies in case of a shortage. © Copyright 1998 by DCI (978) 470-3880 ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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Re: Non Explosive Weapons
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John, NEW is such a goddamned brilliant acronym. Now I'll get in trouble if I start making *major cojones capacitors*. Mineral oil will become a controlled substance if possessed in quantities greater than 1/2 pt or used in any manner other than that described on the label. Vacuum pumps will be contraband. Like ROM burners. Danzig... > Above all, we should stop thinking and organizing in terms of > anachronistic distinctions between "here" and "abroad," between > "military" and "civilian," among "crime," "war" and "natural > occurrence." Nonexplosive weapons erode all such boundaries. > > This does not require the militarization of America. The protections > guaranteed in the Constitution against arrest and investigation > can remain strong. > Tune in next week when: ((( A == B ) && ( A != B )) == TRUE ) or how to babble BULLSHIT from a position of power. Either dangerous or stupid. Who pays his weekly check? I can't help but think that these guys are just looking for a new "main gig in life" that lets them shorten the commute between home and the war zone. Why don't they go start a war somewhere else? Here are some amusing sites - http://www.ntcip.org/ http://www.tcip.org/ Yet another infrastructure system getting ready for the hackers. Won't even be able to trust traffic lights soon. Yet another excuse for insurance rate changes. I guess I'd prefer automation with fewer features but better reliability and security to soldiers in the streets. No luck there though, too practical, it would be too inexpensive and what would we do with all those soldiers? Mike The Danzig's Dictionary good == bad there == here imaginary == real speech == threat thought == terrorism civilian == suspect suspect == convict yours == ours ours == mine mine == mineallmine Not up to Bierce specs, sadly

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vznuri
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael Hohensee wrote: > Anonymous wrote: >> Soren writes: >> > Simple, they would work anarchically. If the guy whose house is >> > burning down is an assh*le, then let it burn. >> Now you know why Choate fears anarchy. >Fortunately for the alleged assh*le, there are likely lots of people >(i.e. _firemen_) who are willing to come and put out his fire, if Mr. >assh*le has contracted with them or someone else who has in turn >contracted with them. If they didn't, they would be marked (correctly) >assh*les, and nobody would contract with them anymore, and they'd get >real poor real fast. >Michael Hohensee No-one's yet noticed that my Jim's house burning down is a problem for his neighbours. Not just for the fear and distress it causes them but because the fire might spread to their houses. Which is why we have fire brigades. And why they are nearly always paid for out of tax. Almost the last thing in the world anyone does privately. Of course, that applies to cities, not to the country - but cities are where it's at. Ken Brown.

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by sunny＠mail.gklub.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Does anyone have FTP acess to Litronic.com?
by hurley bryan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just picked up a Moniker Crypto Card, made by Litronic, Fortezza Compliant, PCMCIA v2.1 type 2 card. Seems all the software went behind a $600month, 6mo min, ftp site as of oct 1, 1998. I don't want to seem like a warez d00d, I am looking for software to use this card, or further info, but may be up the river. Its a risc processor in a card to do fast crypto and store info on it. Thanks Bryan

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Expect the expected
by Frederick Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While visiting the Goddard Space Flight Center's website at http://pao.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc.html (for some Leonid lowdown), you are given an antiMiranda inoculation and subjected to a full cavity body search: U.S. GOVERNMENT COMPUTER If not authorized to access this system, disconnect now. YOU SHOULD HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY By continuing, you consent to your keystrokes and data content being monitored.

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Your Computer Makes Money While You Sleep
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17 Dec '03

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Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:53:29 -0500 > From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> > Subject: Re: IP: Clinton Wants Loophole In U.S. Free Speech Closed (fwd) > >State regulation on speech, press, etc. are also completely constitutional > > The 14th supersedes this somewhat; states can't violate > federal-constitutional rights in ways that they could before it > when they had the 10th to permit them. Where? Speech is a right not an immunity or privilige and the 14th doesn't extend a single right only federaly mandated immunities and priviliges. That is unless you're willing to let your rights become priviliges or immunities given by the federal government. Not exactly what a right started out to be. The 14th is great spin-doctor bull-shit. > Some freedom of choice - if you don't like what the government forces > on you, move. "Democracy" means that if 50% of the people > vote for a system like that, you're stuck with it. Actualy ours requires 75%. > Now, it's certainly better than systems like serfdom or Sovietism, > where you weren't allowed to move either, and it's also better > to have non-homogeneity available nearby. True, but this is confusing a particular implimentation (however flawed) with the principles behind it. Not the most accurate representation. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:36:49 -0500 > From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> > Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd) > At 10:38 AM 11/10/98 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > >Your right, let me spell it out. Free-markets as depicted by > >anarcho-whatever theories legitimize theft, physical violence, extortion, etc. > > Nonsense. Governments are the ones who claim legitimacy for > their theft, violence, and extortion. Nonsense, in this country the people chose to give the federal government specific duties in regards violence and when it could be used and how. It's nowhere near as one-sided as you would have anyone believe. > Free markets consider those things > to be bad, though in some free markets they're for sale anyway. I find NOTHING in free-market theory that says violence is bad let alone that it won't be prevelant. I hear a lot of folks claim this is the natural result but then again, that's what Trotsky and his ilk did back at the beginning of this century. Simply claiming something about a potential system is not the same as demonstrating that it actualy works that way. > Nonsense again. Social institutions aren't a market issue, They are if they impact what people do with their income. Simply saying that we're going to ignore the political and economic impact of a sector of human indeavour simply because it doesn't if within a nice little chart is a disservice. > though some services provided by them can also be provided by markets, > i.e. hiring people to do things. They're a social issue, and > people will form social institutions to do things if they want. Which takes money and time which has to come and go somewhere. > Absence of coercion doesn't mean absence of cooperation. Please demonstrate what about anarchy will coerce (there is no other term) individuals to do what is best for their neighbor. In the process you will need to demonstrate as well why other systems prevent or prohibit such expression currently. > Anarchists are perfectly good at having schools, churches, > volunteer fire companies, theater groups, and soup kitchens, > and they still raise their kids, live inside if they want, If taken as individual instances, trying to argue from the specific to the general in this case raises a whole can of worms that none of you are answering, though I must admit some very nifty side-steps. > Just because you don't have a social institution that announces > that it has the job of killing anybody who competes with it or > fails to obey its proclamations of the will of the majority > doesn't mean you don't have social institutions. Nobody claimed that Bill, straw-man. > You've sure got the cart before the horse here. > Most anarchists I know, whether leftists or libertarians, > care more about justice and equity than any government > I've encountered (maybe not more than the citizens > ruled by the government, but more than the government itself.) > We just don't think a State is a good or likely way to get them, > given too much experience to the contrary, even if some occasional > groups of people have some limited success running a limited government > for short periods of time. Explain how it works, it's that simple (and repeated for about the umpteenth time). I find another aspect of anarchism pretty interesting, that is the level of cooperation and homogeneity it would require for people to work together. They have to give up various expressions of their religions and personal beliefs in order to participate, othewise they let the assholes house burn or whatever. Sounds suspicously like socialism where each person is expected to participate and produce according to the good of the many. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Soren writes: > Simple, they would work anarchically. If the guy whose house is > burning down is an assh*le, then let it burn. Now you know why Choate fears anarchy.

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Some interesting computational articles [/.]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://slashdot.org/ > Linux at Supercomputing '98 Linux Posted by sengan on Monday November > 16, @03:14PM > from the where-we-kick-ass dept. > John A. Turner writes "Haven't seen anything on /. about how much > Linux-related stuff there was at Supercomputing '98 so thought I'd > mention it. One of the best things was a panel discussion titled > "Clusters, Extreme Linux, and NT". There's a nice summary of the > Linux-related events at SC '98 at the Extreme Linux site " Note that > reactions to Red Hat's support options announcements included One area > in which Linux is far ahead of the pack is clustering. Has any > participant written up a summary we could post? Update Rahul Dave has > written a report for us. > Read More... > 18 comments > Chaos in the Machine Science Posted by CmdrTaco on Monday November > 16, @02:19PM > from the science-is-cool dept. > carter writes "It appears Georgia Institute of Technology & Sudeshna > Sinha of the Institute of Mathematical Science in Madras, India, > published the first design for a chaotic computer. Such computers > could in theory could preform trillions of operations a second. Think > of how fast your kernels will compile with one of those things. :-) " > Read More... > 28 comments > Overview, Chip challange and Progress Hardware Posted by CmdrTaco on > Monday November 16, @10:45AM > from the stuff-to-read dept. > J Widjaja writes "Infoworld carries an article which describe recent > advances and challange on chip technology. This article gives nice > overview of chip industry direction." > Read More... > 11 comments ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:17:12 +0100 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd) > This is the central disconnect between you and the other side. You > obviously have as a core assumption that people should be /required/ > to do what is best for their neighbor. Not even close junior. > Most anarchists would reject that assumption. As would I. > Instead, an anarchist would say "The best thing I > can do for my neighbor (and the only thing I 'owe' him) is to leave > him alone." That is, I have no affirmative obligation to do anything > for my neighbor to make his life better. You also have no right to do anything to make their life worse either. THAT is my objection to anarchism, it has zero, nada, null, nul, nil, none, zipo recognition of others peoples rights and an individuals responsibility to respect them. It further refuses to recognize that to help others is to help oneself in many cases. Get your facts straight (but that's probably asking too much). ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate writes: > Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> > > Absence of coercion doesn't mean absence of cooperation. > > Please demonstrate what about anarchy will coerce (there is no other term) > individuals to do what is best for their neighbor. Jim, This is the central disconnect between you and the other side. You obviously have as a core assumption that people should be /required/ to do what is best for their neighbor. Most anarchists would reject that assumption. Instead, an anarchist would say "The best thing I can do for my neighbor (and the only thing I 'owe' him) is to leave him alone." That is, I have no affirmative obligation to do anything for my neighbor to make his life better. All that being said, it may be in my own best interests to do "what is best" for my neighbor; then, if my house should catch fire, I have a much better chance that my neighbor will help extinguish the fire. > In the process you will > need to demonstrate as well why other systems prevent or prohibit such > expression currently. Non sequitur. I'm pretty nice to my neighbors now. Aren't you? This has nothing to do with any government. The defenders/proponents of anarchy here aren't saying that government prevents the function of any of the anarchist mechanisms. Rather that government is an unnecessary and onerous burden on its subjects. > Explain how it works, it's that simple (and repeated for about the umpteenth > time). What's to explain? As has been described on this list countless times, the examples of natural 'anarchist' behavior abound in everyday life. Who makes you get up each morning and go to work? What is it that (only) government does that makes it possible for you to go to the grocery store, or buy gasoline, or go to the movies, or sell your professional services, or any of the other countless aspects of life that would go on with or without government? > I find another aspect of anarchism pretty interesting, that is the level of > cooperation and homogeneity it would require for people to work together. > They have to give up various expressions of their religions and personal > beliefs in order to participate, othewise they let the assholes house burn > or whatever. Why so? I do not share a religion with any of my neighbors, yet I would gladly help if one of their houses was on fire. I do not share a religion with most of the people I work with (or race, gender and other attributes); yet I have no difficulty working with most of them. What "expressions" would I see from my neighbors were it not for the Wise and Just Hand of Government? Or do you mean I should be /Required/ to live and work with people whose personal beliefs or religion I find offensive or repugnant?

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DCS-NY: Dec. 15 Meeting: Win Treese of Open Market
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: dcs-ny-announce(a)piermont.com To: "recipient list suppressed" <perry(a)piermont.com> Subject: DCS-NY: Dec. 15 Meeting: Win Treese of Open Market Reply-To: dcs-ny-rsvp(a)piermont.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)piermont.com> Date: 17 Nov 1998 12:54:49 -0500 Lines: 110 Sender: owner-dcs-ny-announce(a)piermont.com [If you know of people who may be interested in this meeting, please feel free to forward this message to them.] The next luncheon meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of New York (DCS-NY), will be held on Tuesday, December 15th at 12:00. If you are interested in attending, please RSVP and send in your check (as explained below) as soon as possible. [Note: This month, DCS-NY will be on the third Tuesday of the month, not the second, because of scheduling conflicts.] This Month's Luncheon Talk: Does Internet Commerce Really Need a PKI? Win Treese Corporate Systems Architect Open Market, Inc. treese(a)openmarket.com It is now commonplace to claim that a "good PKI" [Public Key Infrastructure] is the technology that will enable the widespread growth of Internet commerce. But what does Internet commerce need from a PKI? Based on our experiences with many kinds of businesses, we will examine some of the real-world security requirements and how public-key systems may be appropriate or inappropriate solutions to those problems. Win Treese is Corporate Systems Architect at Open Market, Inc., (http://www.openmarket.com) a leading vendor of software for Internet commerce. At Open Market, he has worked on many different products and systems, with a particular focus on security for commerce applications. He has previously worked at Digital Equipment Corporation's Cambridge Research Lab and at MIT's Project Athena. He is co-author of the book "Designing Systems for Internet Commerce" (http://www.treese.org/Commerce) In addition, he chairs the IETF Working Group on Transport Layer Security (TLS), and is program chair for the 8th USENIX Security Symposium (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec99/) WHAT IS DCS-NY? The Digital Commerce Society of New York (DCS-NY) is a spin-off of DCS-Boston (DCSB). We meet once a month for lunch at the Harvard Club of New York -- usually on the second Tuesday of the month -- to explore the implications of rapidly emerging internet and cryptographic technologies on finance and commerce. If you are interested in attending our next luncheon meeting, please follow the directions located below. If you merely wish to be added to our e-mail meeting announcements list, you may send your e-mail address to "dcs-ny-rsvp(a)piermont.com". Perry PS We would like to thank John McCormack for his invaluable assistance in procuring the venue for our meetings. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW TO RSVP: The meeting will start at 12:00 noon on December 15th at the Harvard Club, which located at 27 West 44th St. in Manhattan. The cost of the luncheon is $49.00. To RSVP, please: A) Send a check for $49.00 (payable to "The Harvard Club of New York") to: Harry S. Hawk DCS-NY LUNCHEON Piermont Information Systems, Inc. 175 Adams St., #9G Brooklyn, New York 11201 Please include along with your check: 1) The name of the person attending 2) Their daytime phone number 3) Their e-mail address B) Send an email message to dcs-ny-rsvp(a)piermont.com indicating that you have sent your check. The receipt of your check is your actual RSVP. We use the email to insure that nothing gets lost in the mail. You will get email from us once the check is received. Making final arrangements for our room requires that we have a good idea of how many attendees we will have. Because of this, it is very important that you RSVP quickly so that we will be able to get a larger room if necessary. All checks must be received no later than Friday December 11th. If you are uncertain that your check will arrive by the correct date, please use a messenger or express mail service. The late fee is $75 per person paid with a corporate check or money order. We will always try to accommodate everyone we can, even at the last minute. However, we can not guarantee that those who have not RSVPed will be seated. *Please* try to RSVP. Please note that the Harvard Club dress code requires jacket and tie for men and comparable attire for women. If you have special dietary requirements, please check with us by email before you RSVP. We are looking forward to seeing you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Perry --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:00:53 -0500 > From: Michael Hohensee <mah248(a)nyu.edu> > Subject: Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd) > > > Just because you don't have a social institution that announces > > > that it has the job of killing anybody who competes with it or > > > fails to obey its proclamations of the will of the majority > > > doesn't mean you don't have social institutions. > > > > Nobody claimed that Bill, straw-man. > > Now wait a minute, which side was it that said that an "anarchistic > society" was an oxymoron? It wasn't me, I said it was axiomaticaly contradictory. A oxymoron is two terms with contradictory meaning used together (eg deafening silence). You know, that we can't have a society > without a state? Than anarchy is sooooo screwed. The state is nothing but an organization which kills > anyone who doesn't obey its will (however that will is determined, or > however many orders it will give you before disobedience is fatal). That's your rather self-serving definition. A state, used as a synonym for government, has a much broader group of responsiblities. By > saying this, you *are* saying that it is necessary to "have a social > institution that announces that it has the job of killing anybody who > competes with it or fails to obey its proclamations of the will of the > majority" in order to have *any* social institutions (i.e., to have a > society). Demostrate please. I have not said, nor said anything that implies that. I have said that people have a right to self defence and as an extension the need of armies and other such institutions are an extension of that. I also believe that police should exist and should have the responsibility to use deadly force, just not in as many instances as now. Anarchist would leave it to the individual to decide, a bad precidence. > *We* weren't the ones who raised that strawman. ;) No, *YOU* are exactly the ones who raised it. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "Brown, R Ken" <brownrk1(a)texaco.com> > Subject: RE: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd) > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:30:18 -0600 > No-one's yet noticed that my Jim's house burning down is a problem for > his neighbours. I noticed, it's been interesting the way it was dealt with... > Of course, that applies to cities, not to the country - but cities are > where it's at. We have volunteer fire depts. here in Texas (and most other states I've been in). Typicaly they have no equipment, no training, and no money. But, hey, they'll save the slab. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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FC: More on Network Associates and its crypto-politics
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: declan(a)mail.well.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:44:01 -0500 To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Subject: FC: More on Network Associates and its crypto-politics Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Reply-To: declan(a)well.com X-Loop: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ Cabe Franklin <cabe.franklin(a)cbpr.com> forwards this statement from Wes Wasson, director of marketing for Network Associates' security division: >"NAI officially withdrew from the Key Recovery Alliance in late 1997. In May >of 1998, NAI acquired Trusted Information Systems, which had been an active >member of the KRA. NAI subsequently reliquished the leadership role TIS had >taken in the organization. NAI Labs' TIS Advanced Research Division continues >to monitor the KRA's activities from a technical perspective, but Network >Associates in no way advocates mandatory key recovery." >- Cabe Franklin (NAI PR) >415-975-2223 TIS supports export controls on encryption products. My article: http://www.well.com/user/declan/pubs/cwd.shadow.cryptocrats.0298.txt -Declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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ANNOUNCEMENT: RPK SECURITY ADDS NOTED XIONICS EXECUTIVE GARY AMBROSINO TO BOARD OF DIRECTORS
by Jack Oswald / CEO / RPK Security Inc. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have received this message because at some time in the past your name was submitted to our e-mail mailing list database. If you do not wish (or no longer wish) to receive announcements, updates and news concerning the RPK Encryptonite Engine or the RPK InvisiMail e-mail security products, please forward this message to remove(a)rpkusa.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT Paula Miller Lyn Oswald Nadel Phelan, Inc. RPK Security Inc. 408-439-5570 x277 212-488-9891 paulam(a)nadelphelan.com lynoswald(a)rpkusa.com FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE RPK SECURITY ADDS NOTED XIONICS EXECUTIVE GARY AMBROSINO TO BOARD OF DIRECTORS San Francisco, California, October 27, 1998 - RPK Security Inc. (www.rpkusa.com) a technology leader in fast public key encryption, today announced that Gary Ambrosino, recent vice president and general manager of Xionics Document Technologies (Nasdaq:XION), will join its Board of Directors. Following a recent round of seed financing, Mr. Ambrosino's addition to the Board is part of RPK's overall strategy to expand its management team. Prior to joining RPK, Mr. Ambrosino spent five years at Xionics where he led the marketing and early stage sales program for the company's Multifunction Peripherals embedded control technology. Mr. Ambrosino has headed several seed stage technology companies, and spent eight years with Hewlett-Packard. "We are pleased to welcome Gary to our Board of Directors," said Jack Oswald, president and CEO of RPK Security. "His experience in driving business development and his extensive industry knowledge will be extremely valuable in the next phase of growth and deployment of our Encryptonite software and FastChip encryption technology into applications like secure remote printing." "RPK Security has now reached, on schedule, several significant milestones," said Mr. Ambrosino. "These milestones include completion of a very low cost, high-speed encryption chip, the release of the Encryptonite development platform, and continued growth in acceptance of RPK InvisiMail, the world's easiest-to-use secure E-mail add-in." RPK's core technology, the patented RPK Encryptonite Engine, is an exceptionally fast public key algorithm for encryption, authentication and digital signatures. It offers a unique combination of the benefits of public key systems and the high performance characteristics of symmetric or "secret key" systems. RPK Encryptonite is available as a software toolkit or a high speed ASIC capable of large key encryption speeds of up to 100 megabits per second. Applications include streaming video and audio narrowcasting, secure cellular and satellite telephones, and VPN implementation. Developed outside of the U.S., the RPK Encryptonite Engine is available globally with strong encryption, unlike competing products that are restricted by U.S. export regulations. ABOUT RPK SECURITY Founded in 1995, RPK Security, Inc. is a technology leader in fast public key encryption. RPK's cryptographic research and product development is based in New Zealand, Switzerland and the U.K, with worldwide sales and marketing in San Francisco, CA. Contact RPK at www.rpkusa.com or (212) 488-9891.

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statgraphics....
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could someone give me a copy of statgraphics for dos or windows? I would gladly appreciate it. Thank you very much. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If a student is particular about his studies, especially while he is too young to know which are useful and which are not, we shall say he is no lover of learning or of wisdom; just as, if he were dainty about his food, we should say he was not hungry or fond of eating, but had a poor appetite. " ---- PLATO By the way, it's Bernie not Bernardo. metaphone(a)altavista.net ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

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