December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Sun to fight MS w/ new workstations [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:09 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: Sun to fight MS w/ new workstations [CNN] > From: nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) > Hmm... Considering that you can buy a PC w/ Linux and have a Unix > workstation for less than the cost of a new computer with NT, I wonder > who Sun is really targetting here. Corporations and businesses which feel more secure with a commercial enterprise backing the system. > Most of the people buying NT are the same people who bought their last > OS from Microsoft, and don't feel like trying anything new. There are *many* businesses which have been unix shops exclusively in the past who are now implimenting NT based servers for a variety of reasons. In some cases the intent is to drop the Unix boxes completely over the span of say 5-10 years as alternate applications become available. It's a bigger market than the home, soho, or individual corporate user at stake. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Legality of faxed signatures.
by Robert A. Costner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:56 PM 1/16/98 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: >This is a big problem for me, because I want to scare >businessmen into using digital signatures. Part of the process for having a Digital Signature law is to establish the definition of a writing. Since faxes are not writings, but email is, you should be able to scare them into digital signatures pretty easily. -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key

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Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for coercion (fwd)
by Jonathan Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 01:41 AM 1/15/98 -0500, Ryan Lackey wrote: >Another attack would be having 5 NSA agents sign a piece of code, but >you could prevent that by having the list made up of distinct well known >individuals who are unlikely to all be bought -- if the NSA wants to >give $100m each to the most frequent 100 posters on cypherpunks, I want >to get in line :) You can have cuts right behind me! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQA/AwUBNL+2K8JF0kXqpw3MEQK5vgCdH8N7F7fyTkrWn1E+mBhznrIDqZwAnjpG xE2ngJSG0BZJ4crdJb6EAYm8 =huFc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:29:34 -0800 > From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk(a)ix.netcom.com> > Subject: Re: how to release code if the programmer is a target for > coercion (fwd) [my entire previous post deleted...geesh] > Jim, there are > 2 parties in the matter being discussed: EXACTLY. That is why there is a potential for a MITM (requires at least 3 parties) attack. > My key is publicly available at the MIT keyserver; it has been since PGP > 5.0 came out. So what? If Alice is being monitored for whatever reason and she requests your key Mallet simply intercedes and inserts their own key. How is Alice going to catch a clue? > key. It would be fairly difficult for any attacker to forge a signature > with a false key; It isn't the source but the recipient that is under attack. [rest deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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OK to send e-mail?
by owl＠owlseye.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK to send an e-mail to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com?

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Swisskey: Swiss issuing office for Internet certificates established
by Alexandre Maret 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.swisskey.com/mitteilung_e.html Swisskey: Swiss issuing office for Internet certificates established Zurich/Berne, 18 December 1997 - Swisscom, Telekurs and DigiSigna have established the joint venture Swisskey and thus laid the foundations for secure electronic commerce in the worldwide web. The certificates issued by Swisskey are available to individuals and companies and enable clear and secure mutual identification in the Internet. Swisskey will be registered in January 1998 and will start offering its services on the Internet at www.swisskey.com in the second quarter of 1998. Electronic commerce has good future prospects: telebanking and teleshopping in the Internet and the secure exchange of EDI messages between applications are some of its possible applications. So far, however, service offers and their acceptance have both been limited, since service providers and customers cannot identify each other immediately and are dependent on bilateral agreements. Electronic certificates are the solution to this problem. They offer mutual trust in the otherwise anonymous field of electronic commerce. They allow users to be identified and texts to be signed digitally and encoded in such a way that only the recipient can read them. Users can obtain a certificate from a registration office by showing some form of identification. Possible registration offices are post offices, Swisscom shops, banks and chambers of commerce. "The Swisskey joint venture aims to encourage the development of electronic commerce in Switzerland by offering a customerfriendly, secure and upgradeable certification service," explained Swisskey Managing Director, Christian Graber. Swisskey will offer SSL certificates as supported by all common Internet browsers (X.509 certificates), Edifact certificates for EDI messages and application and companyspecific certificates for uses such as Intranet applications. Swisscom Ltd and Telekurs Holding AG each hold 47.5% of Swisskey AG and DigiSigna (an association of chambers of commerce of Switzerland and the Principality of Liechtenstein) holds the remaining 5%. DigiSigna also aims to win international approval for the Swisskey certificates. For questions: DigiSigna Otto Müller omueller(a)zurichcci.ch Tel. 01 / 221 07 42 Fax. 01 / 221 76 15 Telekurs Holding AG Bernhard Wenger wnb(a)holding.telekurs.com Tel. 01 / 279 22 20 Fax. 01 / 279 23 36 Swisscom Sepp Huber Josef.Huber(a)swisscom.com Tel. 031 / 342 13 00 Fax. 031 / 342 13 10

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reasons for local eternity proxies (Re: remailer resistancs to attack) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:42:52 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: reasons for local eternity proxies (Re: remailer resistancs to attack) > > (Reason for local news feed being preferabl is that it protects the > NNTP traffic which would otherwise allow eavesdroppers to observer > which articles you were reading. SSL is only a partial solution > because you are then trusting the SSL NNTP server operator.) >From a criminal perspective is it really important to know what you were reading but rather what you were generating? Using Van Eck it would be much easier and cheaper to determine what you were reading than spend the money, physical resources, and people time to figure it using traffic analysis. It's more incriminating to prove you sent a request for illicit data than you downloaded it. Sending it out shows premeditated intent. Simply downloading it shows only curiosity with no other evidence. Simple traffic analysis will determine your sourcing data even if it is fully encrypted. > Local servers don't generate any traffic, "local server" is really a > misnomer, it is a local proxy for reading news... it presents a view > of USENET articles which makes them appear as web pages. It keeps > copies of those web pages more up to date versions are read in news, > this allows fast access to the web space. I point my local news readers at my ISP's news server so I don't flood my link with several gig's of traffic a day. This is the primary objection to hosting a 'real' local news server - the bandwidth and hardware resource issues place it outside of most peoples financial ability. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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PEOPLEFINDERS
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Where for lunch on Tue.? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > That could explain why every girl he gets dumps him in less than a month... > > He's cheap which means he shows up with wilted flowers and day-old bread. > Also explains why he can't keep people out of his crease, he uses them old > dull skates. Sorry, that wasn't supposed to go out to you folks....I think I'm about to get my butt kicked...;( ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Where for lunch on Tue.? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:25:13 -0600 > From: Kenneth Zuber <kzuber(a)us.itmasters.com> > > I heard you weren't good either..... > I guess you get what you pay for > > Sean Starke wrote: > > > > > Tivoleers, be advised...he's looking to pick at least one of you up... > > I may be cheap, but I'm not free... That could explain why every girl he gets dumps him in less than a month... He's cheap which means he shows up with wilted flowers and day-old bread. Also explains why he can't keep people out of his crease, he uses them old dull skates. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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UPDATE!! BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS MEETING, SATURDAY 1/17, OAKLAND
by bill.stewart＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sameer asks that, due to building access limitations, everybody please show up by 2pm to be sure the guards will let you in, and "humor building management and sign in as requested by the guard". And there's a parking lot on Franklin between 12th and 13th, which is a block or two east/south of Broadway. > The January Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting will be Saturday afternoon > at C2 Software's office in Oakland. > > Agenda: Export Laws - Lee Tien and Greg Broiles > Work in Progress > Lots of discussion from RSA Conference. > > Time: 12-6pm followed by dinner - program starts at 1:00 > Location: C2Net Software, Inc. 1440 Broadway Suite 700, Oakland, CA > Phone: (510) 986-8770 Fax: (510) 986-8777 > Public Transportation - about two blocks from the 12th St BART station. > This is the best way to get there from San Francisco, > and parking for BART trains is easy. :-) > Driving - From South - take 880N to Broadway exit, about .9 mile, park > From San Francisco - Take the Bay Bridge to Grand Ave, > turn right on Telegraph and continue on Broadway. If you find yourself on 980, 11th or 12th goes to Broadway. > > Map URL: http://www.mapblast.com/yt.hm?FAM=mapblast&CMD=GEO&SEC=find&IC=0%3A0%3A5&IC… Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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New Software Controls
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TH points out that there's a broad new provision in the BXA Wassenaar rule for controlling telecommunications software under Category 5, Part I - Telecommunications, quote: You might want to highlight the following section ... not sure of the entire context ... but this isn't something that I'd seen before. It looks like control of any software that can transmit data. c.3. ``Software'' which provides the capability of recovering ``source code'' of telecommunications ``software'' controlled by 5A001, 5B001, or 5C001; For the citation see: http://jya.com/bxa-wa/cat51.htm#5D001c3 --------- We've broken the rule into several components for easier access to the Commerce Control List revisions. See: http://jya.com/bxa-wa-rule.htm

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Fwd: Skiing
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 01/16 8:27 AM Received: 01/16 5:18 PM From: Patrick McGarvey, mcgoo(a)worldnet.att.net To: Brian Riley, brianbr(a)together.net Subject: For the skier in us... > > What's the difference between John Denver and Michael Kennedy? > John Denver made it alive out of Aspen. > Has Elton John re-written any of his songs for Michael Kennedy? > Not yet, but he's done one about the tree: "I'm Still Standing" > How can you be sure that Michael was really a Kennedy? > Check the family tree. > How will the priest begin Michael Kennedy's eulogy? > "We are gathered here together on this slalom occasion...." > A simple accident? Some witnesses insist there was a second tree at > the snow-covered knoll... > What do Michael and JFK Jr's magazine "George" have in common? > * Wood pulp. > > New bumper sticker...."Plant A Tree....Kill A Kennedy...." > What's an event you don't want to be at? > * A Michael Kennedy New Year's Bash > What will it take to reunite the four Kennedy brothers? > A1: One more bullet. > A2: A season lift pass. ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." -- Nietzche

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Adult Mail................Are you man enough?
by Wombat＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Genetic & Tissue Engineering - The Learning Channel
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, FYI The show that was mentioned the other night regarding tissue and limb growth was shown tonite on The Learning Channel from 9pm to 10pm central. If you're interested check your schedule for a repeat. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Deriving economic profits from writing FREE software?
by igor＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, At my leisure, I write free software. One of these programs is the usenet moderation bot STUMP. Right now I am writing another free program. I feel perfectly comfortable with the idea that I will not CHARGE money for these programs; for one, I am a beneficiary of a multitude of excellent free programs written by others, and just as well i realize that selling them would be more of a hassle than it is worth. My another pet idea is that programming is poetry, and therefore a person who only writes commercial software is almost surely going to lose whatever gift in programming that he had from God. However, aside from the psychic benefits, I would like to somehow derive an economic profit from being a freeware author. So far, I feel that the status of the author of a popular package does sound good on a resume, but it is as far as I could get. Does anyone else feel the same way? Has anybody come up with a way to cash in on the free programs that he writes? Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} \=/, _-===-_-====-_-===-_-==========-_-====-_ | @___oo ( )_ /\ /\ / (___,,,}_--= ) ) /^\) ^\/ _) =__ Anything is good and useful if ) ) /^\/ _) (_ ) ) _ / / _) ( ) /\ )/\/ || | )_) (_ it's made of chocolate. ) < > |(,,) )__) ( ) || / \)___)\ (_ __) | \____( )___) )___ -==-_____-=====-_____-=====-___== \______(_______;;; __;;;

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HOW WILL YOU SURVIVE WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR JOB?
by esoftware57＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Microsoft Metaphors
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > What are the best metaphors to use when talking about a browser > > and an operating system? Is the combination like a car and an > > engine, or a car and a roofrack? A pair of gloves? > >In this specific case it's more like garbage in a trash can. Nah. In this specific case it's more like shit and a toilet. Or if you wanted to get a bit obscure you could say that Windows is like LSD. It kills brain cells, attracts the really stupid in addition to the occasional person with a clue, and the typical user has random flashbacks when put in front of any computer at all. It has no useful purpose beyond making the user feel really good, costs a lot, and is dangerous to your (mental) health. It's produced, handled, and sold by a huge cartel (Microsoft) who shoots (runs out of business) anybody who opposes them. Those the cartel doesn't shoot they bribe (buy). And users enter into temporary or in some cases permanent fits of stupidity and hysteria during which they are a danger to anyone around them, particularly if they're armed (have a bulk mailer or platform-specific "web authoring tools" which produce crappy HTML).

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Kaczynski attempts suicide
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I don't get it. The guy is facing the death penalty, and now they're >trying to keep him alive. It's typical government arrogance. They can kill but nobody else can. And they demand that when they consider murdering somebody that the target not murder himself. Stupidity.

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CAD Stego
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This repeats a suggestion from 1994 about using computer assisted design programs to conceal text or other data: 1. CAD uses vectors to make graphics, including text, and most programs can import a wide variety of data from other formats. 2. Several features can manipulate CAD objects into unrecognizable forms by modifying scale, dimension, orientation, opacity and so on. 3. The scale feature is useful to reduce, say, a text of any length, or any digital object, to the size of a pixel. This pixel can be located, say, under a visible line, or, be made transparent as a "phantom" object. (An engineer "stipples" concrete with microdot exotica and lofts the docs to the Saudis, getting paid ten times the regular fee.) 4. Or, the text can be distorted by scale and dimension to appear to be a line serving another function. 5. It's a snap to encrypt the text and import it into CAD via several programs that do that duty. Then the message could be distorted or hidden as described above, for piggy-backing on an innocent- looking document issued, say, to GSA for replenishing the Blanco Bunker, where it would be opened by the cp insider-sou-chef for de-distorted, decrypted instructions on how to prepare and place the bean. 6. To be sure, the underlying CAD code of the ciphertext could be identified by an astute auto-message-vetter of the EOP and then the CADbreakers would be beckoned to the roachtrap. 7. Big shortcoming: how to securely transmit the location (virtual coordinates) of the hidden message and what modifications need to be reversed for message access. Beware of using 0,0,0 -- a near-universal data point for CAD docs. However, 0,0,2^50 miles might be overlooked if the 3d view is disabled. 8. Medium shortcoming: Full-featured CAD programs are expensive, however, the popular lite versions are cheap and can usually read the pricier output.

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call for proposals: "Media, Democracy and the Public Sphere" inJune 1998
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wonder what these peoples' take on the Internet is? If the net isn't a "democratic public sphere", what is? >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:56:01 -0800 (PST) >Reply-To: cda96-l(a)willamette.edu >Originator: cda96-l(a)willamette.edu >Sender: cda96-l(a)willamette.edu >Precedence: bulk >From: "T. L. Kelly" <room101(a)teleport.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <cda96-l(a)willamette.edu> >Subject: call for proposals: "Media, Democracy and the Public Sphere" in >June 1998 > >The Union for Democratic Communications (UDC) invites participation in >its next international meeting, June 11-14, 1998, in San Francisco, >California, addressing the topic "Media, Democracy and the Public >Sphere." > >UDC welcomes papers, audiovisual works, panels, workshops and projects >that break with traditional, monological approaches, to promote dialogue >and interaction around questions of critical communications and media >activism, as suggested below. Please send proposals for presentations >by no later than MARCH 1, 1998, to: > > Prof. Bernadette Barker-Plummer > 1998 UDC Conference Chair > Department of Communication > University of San Francisco > 2130 Fulton Street > San Francisco, CA 94117 > email: barkerplum(a)usfca.edu > >The UDC steering committee suggests the following perspectives on the >conference topic, "Media, Democracy and the Public Sphere": the mass >media are flourishing today; a democratic public sphere is not. What, >then, are the possibilities of resolving the conflicts between a "mass" >media and a "democratic" public sphere? > >Facets of this question which participants may wish to address include >the concept of "the public interest"; the role of public media systems >in the creation of a democratic public sphere; the role of media policy >in helping or hindering democracy; the role of media in >(trans)national"democratization" processes; the dissemination of radical >claims through alternative, community and mainstream media; the ways in >which the everyday media practices of the public help or hinder the >creation of a democratic public sphere; the education of media workers >in the interest of democracy; and the utilization of information >technolgies for and against democracy. > >The host institution is arranging affordable conference housing on the >campus of the University of San Francisco, which, however, requires >timely registration. Please send in your proposal early to faciliate >rapid notification of acceptances in early March! The San Francisco >host committee is also scheduling plenary sessions with featured >speakers and joint evening outings into the city. This promises to be >an very engaged and productive gathering of international media >activists, practitioners, theorists and historians. Please contact Prof. >Barker-Plummer, conference chair, with any questions: > barkerplum(a)usfca.edu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | All politicians should ski.| 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Hi :-)
by Important.News＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by eureka＠eureka.abc-web.com 17 Dec '03

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Re: Nanotechnology
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> 1 coulomb/second = 6.24 x 10^18 atoms/sec. Assuming an atomic spacing > of roughly 10^-10 meters, at that rate it'd take you about 18.5 days to > construct one side of the cube with a thickness of 1mm, or almost four > months to build another cube. I'd guesstimate another 4 months to build > the electronics for it. And then you'd need some way to assemble the > pieces. ok, but how do you build a 10-cm cube inside of a 10-cm cube? :)

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Re: Nanotechnology (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:22:59 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: Nanotechnology > From: nobody(a)REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) > > 1 coulomb/second = 6.24 x 10^18 atoms/sec. There are a couple of things incorrect with this. A Coulomb is 1N of e-/s, not atoms. N atoms is called a Mole. N, or Avagadro's Number, is 6.023E23 not 6.24E18 ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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