December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Riutual processing???
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For all pentium haters, I advise a visit to this page: > http://www.top.net/chia/pentiumgram/ -- Paul Bradley paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk "Why should anyone want to live on rails?" - Stephen Fry

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ECCp-79 challenge cracked
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm enclosing two messages from sci.crypt: Peter Trei ------------------------------------------------------------------------ First message On sci.crypt Volker Mueller <vmueller(a)cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote: >[...] Maybe the problem is not so easy. The biggest DL computation for an >elliptic curve was a 19 digit prime order computation (up to my >knowledge). The first Certicom "exercise" has 79 bits or 24 decimal >digits. > >Cheers, Volker You're right, the so-called "exercise" was not so easy! However a few Alphas and some optimised code got through it eventually. I just posted the following to Certicom... -- Rob. PS: Any volunteers willing to dedicate Alpha CPU time for cracking the next challenge? With a bunch of machines it would be a piece of cake! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ This message is copyright Robert J. Harley, 1997. If you wish to quote more than one sentence, please quote the whole thing. To: certicom-ecc-challenge(a)certicom.com Robert J. Harley, Se`vres, France, 6th of December, 1997. Dear Anonymous, Certicom's professed aim in setting its ECC challenge is to encourage research into secure cryptosystems based on elliptic curve discrete logarithms. Yet Certicom is a member of the Key Recovery Alliance, a lobby group whose purpose is to promote the use of back-doors allowing supposedly secure communications to be intercepted. How are these contradictory positions reconciled? The solution to your ECCp-79 problem is the residue class of 92221507219705345685350 modulo 466597814831947642887217. It was found by Wayne Baisley and myself using several Digital Alpha workstations running Linux and Digital Unix at the Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et Automatique (INRIA), at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory and at the California Institute of Technology C.S. Department. The method used was a "birthday paradox" algorithm iterating from a random initial point (one per machine) with a random function (the same on all machines) until a collision was detected at 17:58 today at INRIA, Rocquencourt, France by a 500MHz Linux machine. This machine did 25 billion elliptic curve operations per day. The peak rate of all machines was approximately 6 six times as much. A total of about 1400 billion iterations were performed. If this is the first correct submission, please send the prize (a copy of "Handbook of Applied Cryptography" and Maple software) to the following address: Robert Harley, c/o Sylvie Loubressac, Projet CRISTAL, INRIA, Domaine de Voluceau - Rocquencourt, 78153 Le Chesnay, France. Thank you, Rob. .-. Robert.Harley(a)inria.fr .-. / \ .-. .-. / \ / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ \ / `-' `-' \ / `-' Linux + 500MHz Alpha + 256MB SDRAM = heaven `-' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------- Second message: From: Dimitris Tsapakidis <dimitris(a)alien.bt.co.uk> Date: 1997/12/08 Message-ID: <348BDD10.B5B2E641(a)alien.bt.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.crypt [More Headers] Hello Robert, Congratulations on your effort. We would like to post some information on our attempt at BT Labs. We found the private key after you at 19:58 GMT on Sunday the 7th. We only completed 481 billion ECC operations at a peak rate of 84 billion per day using 170 to 210 machines. A couple of months ago we contributed 180-250 machines to the distributed.net/Bovine group attack on RC5-56, peaking at 60 million keys/sec. Dimitris

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub reord ?"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp pgponly hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"reno"} = "<middleman(a)cyberpass.net> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord ?"; $remailer{"cracker"} = "<remailer(a)anon.efga.org> cpunk mix remix pgp hash ksub esub latent cut ek reord post"; $remailer{'redneck'} = '<config(a)anon.efga.org> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"bureau42"} = "<remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org> cpunk mix pgp ksub hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"neva"} = "<remailer(a)neva.org> cpunk pgp pgponly hash cut ksub ?"; $remailer{"lcs"} = "<mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> mix"; $remailer{"medusa"} = "<medusa(a)weasel.owl.de> mix middle" $remailer{"McCain"} = "<mccain(a)notatla.demon.co.uk> mix middle"; $remailer{"valdeez"} = "<valdeez(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"arrid"} = "<arrid(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"hera"} = "<goddesshera(a)juno.com> cpunk pgp pgponly hash ek"; $remailer{"htuttle"} = "<h_tuttle(a)rigel.cyberpass.net> cpunk pgp hash latent cut post ek"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. remailer(a)crynwr.com is _not_ a remailer. There is no remailer at relay.com. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix reno winsock) (weasel squirrel medusa) (cracker redneck) (nym lcs) (valdeez arrid hera) This remailer list is somewhat phooey. Go check out http://www.publius.net/rlist.html for a good one. Last update: Thu 23 Oct 97 15:48:06 PDT remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- hera goddesshera(a)juno.com ------------ 5:03:45 99.86% nym config(a)nym.alias.net +*#**#**### :34 95.82% redneck config(a)anon.efga.org #*##*+#**** 2:00 95.44% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com +++ ++++++* 19:18 95.27% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de -- ---+--- 2:34:19 95.16% cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net *++***+ ++ 11:26 95.11% replay remailer(a)replay.com **** *** 10:06 94.93% arrid arrid(a)juno.com ----.------ 8:50:34 94.41% bureau42 remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org --------- 3:38:29 93.53% cracker remailer(a)anon.efga.org + +*+*+*+ 16:32 92.80% jam remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca + +*-++++ 24:14 92.79% winsock winsock(a)rigel.cyberpass.net -..-..---- 9:59:18 92.22% neva remailer(a)neva.org ------****+ 1:03:02 90.39% valdeez valdeez(a)juno.com 4:58:22 -36.97% reno middleman(a)cyberpass.net 1:01:28 -2.65% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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17 Dec '03

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Crypto Law Survey updated
by Bert-Jaap Koops 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have just updated my survey of existing and envisaged cryptography laws and regulations. See the Crypto Law Survey at http://cwis.kub.nl/~frw/people/koops/lawsurvy.htm This update includes: -new entries on Estonia, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Romania, Turkey (import/export) and on Argentina, Malaysia, South Korea (domestic) -update on European Union (Commission Communication: advises export adaptation, wary of key recovery, EU will use encryption itself), Belgium (govt proposal), Brazil (import/ use controls possible in 1998), France (expected decrees delayed by NL), Germany (Kanther chip; no regulation intention), Sweden (Cabinet Office report), Turkey (perhaps domestic controls), US (BXA seeks comments; Bernstein hearing scheduled; SAFE Act amended/ uncertain future; KMI FIPS meetings; AES candidate call) -clarification on Poland (import), Singapore, South Africa, UK (export) -URLs added to EU (KRISIS), France (critique), UK (list of responses), US (KMI FIPS, amendment S909) Kind regards, Bert-Jaap --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bert-Jaap Koops tel +31 13 466 8101 Center for Law, Administration and facs +31 13 466 8149 Informatization, Tilburg University e-mail E.J.Koops(a)kub.nl -------------------------------------------------- Postbus 90153 | This world's just mad enough to have been made | 5000 LE Tilburg | by the Being his beings into being prayed. | The Netherlands | (Howard Nemerov) | --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://cwis.kub.nl/~frw/people/koops/bertjaap.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Fwd: (Fwd) GILC on racism, Asian events, copyright, etc. (472 l (fwd)]
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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A Pretty Good Story, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********* http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1617,00.html The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) December 8, 1997 A Pretty Good Story by Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) Phil Zimmermann had it easy fighting the U.S. government: At least everyone else was on his side. Today the legendary cryptographer and founder of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) is finding that his latest adversaries are just as determined but much more diverse. Earlier this fall PGP drew fire for releasing PGP 5.5 with a so-called "message recovery" feature that a corporation could require users to turn on to let the boss read their e-mail. Then, when McAfee Associates announced last week it would buy PGP, formerly supportive privacy advocates screamed that the company's new owners were part of the "Key Recovery Alliance," a group of firms devoted to producing data-scrambling software easily snoopable by the government. Now the complaining may stop, at least for a while. The McAfee-PGP combo, called Network Associates, has dropped out of the alliance. "I never would have allowed my own company to join the Key Recovery Alliance," Zimmermann told me yesterday. "As soon as I found out about McAfee being a member, I tried to do something about it." [...]

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"Kids Safe" calls for mandatory blocking sw; op-ed on summit
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[What was that the IFEA folks were saying last week? Oh, yes, I remember: by building systems like PICS you also create an irresistable temptation for Congress to make them mandatory. --Declan] Business Wire December 5, 1997, Friday DISTRIBUTION: Business/News Editors & High-Tech Writers LENGTH: 486 words HEADLINE: Child-Safety Advocate Calls on Congress to Mandate Parental Software on All Computers Sold in U.S. DATELINE: LOS ANGELES BODY: Dec. 5, 1997--Saying that we must protect children from the dangers of sexually explicit material on the Internet, a leading child-safety advocate Friday called on Congress to enact legislation to mandate that every computer sold in the United States by 1999 be outfitted with parental software that can block out sexually explicit or adult Web sites. Jayne Murphy Shapiro, founder and president of KIDS SAFE, an organization dedicated to protecting children against sexual molestation, is writing all members of Congress to express her concerns about the dangers of the Internet and her goal to make the Internet online experience safe, educational and entertaining for chldren. Shapiro, who attended the Internet Online Summit in Washington this week and met with government officials and community activists from across the country, said, "Mandating that computer makers install screening software will give parents new power to control what material young children are exposed to. "Our proposal would require manufacturers to install computer software in new computers to allow parents to block Internet sites considered too violent or obscene for their children. The easy-to-use filtering software would allow parents, educators and employers to screen the Internet, providing an alternative to government censorship." Shapiro pointed out that KIDS SAFE does not believe in censorship of the Internet, but rather in the common goal of protecting the First Amendment and the Internet so it can be used for free expression, education and commerce. Current software on the market allows for an Internet site to be blocked if it meets the following guidelines: 1) a disclaimer indicating restricted access; and 2) a screen or warning that identifies the site as adult-oriented or containing information unsuitable for those underage or the publisher has requested that his/her site be blocked. "Screening software, coupled with parental responsibility, enables parents to make informed decisions about what Internet sites their children can enter," said Shapiro. "Parental responsibility, with the help of the screening software, can be a major step in curtailing the needless exposure to inappropriate Web sites that plague the Internet." -0- NOTE: Jayne Murphy Shapiro, president of KIDS SAFE, is available for comments on this or any other child-safety issues. ------ The Record (Bergen County, NJ) December 4, 1997; THURSDAY; ALL EDITIONS SECTION: OPINION; Pg. L10 LENGTH: 618 words HEADLINE: PEDOPHILES IN CYBERSPACE ; WE MUST STOP CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ON THE INTERNET BYLINE: The Record BODY: THE increasing presence of child pornography on the Internet is a national problem that must be dealt with aggressively and quickly. This is not a free-speech or First Amendment issue. Child pornography is a crime. We do not tolerate it in our communities, and we should not tolerate it in cyberspace. Unfortunately, as a Page One article in The Record pointed out yesterday, cyberspace is tailor-made for the dissemination of child pornography. It allows pedophiles instant access to explicit photos in the privacy of their own homes, and it gives distributors and collectors enough anonymity to avoid getting caught and being prosecuted. In fact, the anonymity and the ease of finding sexually explicit material involving children on the Internet may have actually broadened the audience for child pornography. And law enforcement officials worry that this could in turn lead to increased child sexual abuse. Vice President Al Gore has been leading a campaign to make the Internet safe for children. This week, he announced a new partnership between Internet service providers and the Justice Department in an effort to crack down on child pornography, and a toll-free hot line to report any suspected incidents of child sexual exploitation. America Online also announced its cooperation."When child pornography is appropriately brought to our attention and we have control over it, we will remove it,"AOL Chairman Steve Case said. But law enforcement officials, computer experts, and child advocates say it's not that easy, by any means. Even if AOL cooperates, a great deal of child pornography is found on chat rooms hosted by hundreds of much smaller providers, who are loathe to police themselves because of liability or censorship concerns, or because they don't have the staff to do so. The Record's article also pointed out that most law enforcement officials are not knowledgeable enough to track down child pornography distributors, who are experts at disguising themselves on the Internet and finding new ways to fool monitors. Law enforcement officials may also lack the manpower needed to track down pedophiles."If we go on line undercover for one night,"one investigator said,"we're busy for two weeks, getting warrants and records." Many more"cybercops"are needed at the federal, state, and local levels who have the expertise to keep one step ahead of child pornographers, and much more manpower and training is needed. In New Jersey, state Sen. Andrew Ciesla, R-Brick, has introduced a bill that would create a high-tech crimes and investigation support unit for the state police. The measure, which should be approved, would set aside $ 400,000 for the unit to investigate computer crimes, including child pornography on the Internet, and create a 24-hour toll-free state hot line for reporting anything suspicious. Alerting the authorities is a key component of this crackdown, and Mr. Gore also announced a national"Cybertip"hot line to report suspicious on-line activity related to child pornography. The number is (800) 843-5678. The vice president is to be commended for seeking ways to stop these ugly predators. But this effort must be more than just lip service. It will take time to find the most effective ways to crack down on child pornography on the Internet, but the quest should take on increasing urgency, given all the evidence that the problem is growing. In the meantime, intense pressure should be brought to bear on the Internet industry, which can make a huge dent in this particularly vile cybercrime by aggressively policing itself. ----

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RightsMarket Demo
by Stacey Feltham 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Cato forum tomorrow: should money laundering be a crime?
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>(Why is this discussion limited to just the four of us? Surely Declan and >his Cato buddies are worthy to hear our arguments? I dislike the "taking >things private" mindset, when the lists are already so cluttered with Toto >rants and other consumers of vast amounts of bandwidth.) If my header lines implied this, it was inadvertent. I agree more 'relevent' content on CP is desireable. >I haven't quite said that all forms of communication/spending money will be >speech and therefore protected. (Besides, we all know of many forms of >speech that are unprotected.) > >What I (and Michael Froomkin, in his own CFP talk) have argued is that >digital money will be _undetectable_ in many cases unless government >demands that the contents of a private communication be revealed. A kind of >prior restraint on speech. > [snip] >If the government determines, somehow, that Alice was >involved in an illegal transaction, tax evasion, money laundering, etc., >they can try to get her on that. But they can't insist that words be >submitted to a government agent for approval." Isn't uttering a check protected speech? What about if a check is stego-coded in some political rant? Can the Feds insist I not utter that speech? --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 First ECache Corporation | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me ECache or give me debt! "It's your Cache"

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom
by Charlie Comsec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Harish Pillay <harish(a)brokat.com.sg> > Interesting that you hide behind an anomymous name and you claim to ^^^^^^^^^^^ > be outside Singapore. I for one, will stand by my name and say that > things I should say about this country of mine (warts and all) and > not have to hide behind anonymity (not that I would not use anonymity ^^^^^^^^^^^ > ever :-)). I find it interesting that most of the people who refer to anonymous posters as "hiding behind" or "hiding behind the skirts of" something usually have unlisted telephone numbers when you try to do a search for them. <g> I wonder why "hiding behind" an unlisted telephone number is considered acceptable but having an "unlisted" e-mail address is not considered acceptable? Nor is it useful to argue that anonymity should only be used when it's "needed". That decision should be at the sole discretion of the poster. With the advent of firms that sell "dossiers" of the public posts of potential job candidates to employers, maybe posting using your own name is something everyone ought to at least reconsider. For many people, the choice is not between posting openly versus posting anonymously, but rather between posting openly and NOT POSTING AT ALL. Censorious individuals contribute to that by deliberately attempting to ridicule and discredit anonymous posters. Since you often cannot determine an anonymous poster's religion, race, nationality, or sexual preference, those who prefer ad hominem attack to a rational debate of the issues attack the poster's anonymity, instead. BTW, do you "hide behind" clothes when you walk on the street? If so, why? Got something to hide? Huh? COWARD!!!! <g> - --- Finger <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> for PGP public key (Key ID=19BE8B0D) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNIwRWgbp0h8ZvosNAQFZ6Af9G4P92aD68wwQEHH4xNiHvD5x8JDzIFCK fzFPp+IxuSQi+0R8i8Udt9XUh317Ec78lgwuRpStwS8LooE88oBWP2A5StU9k0BH kEDT7U8XlP73z0MCxr3kGmKC7TQwJo7cBZma7GbLjs9+wN5w7/k3nhXPLmA0At2y wmV08KIHl1pJacR36dRSfb8vuph6KwkglAU+az1BxDROIfWWqCYXVDsADULsz63p dOiiHkIS4yDLyLSU9osGLA62zkGLZMHYIfs8eWDB9AVNoPHwo7l0DxMMtsF+QjtR Qjdeor+DUd4jo+4tmYGPBwdX370EHqXjN/J3/CspGc+e+GVRyIU/Nw== =Zi6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Press URL's from today's Bernstein appeal hearing
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Today's hearing in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals went very well. The judges clearly understood the case -- both the picky legal details, and how it fits into the general social issue of encryption regulation. While we can't predict their decision (or even when it will come out), we are cautiously optimistic. We'll put transcripts of the hearing up on the Web as soon as we get them from the court reporter (in days or weeks). You may want to examine some early press coverage of the hearing at: http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/120997encrypt-bernstein.html http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,17114,00.html http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/zdnn/1208/261695.html (The Times requires a username/password; use "cypherpunks" and "cypherpunks" if you don't want them to track your accesses.) John Gilmore Electronic Frontier Foundation

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Time Magazine on America Online pornospam and Kids Summit
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********* http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/971215/technology.why_john… .html Time Magazine December 15, 1997 Page 76 AMERICA ONLINE'S LITTLE PROBLEM By Michael D. Lemonick Reported by Bruce van Voorst and Declan McCullagh/Washington If you logged on to America Online last week, you may well have found E-mail waiting from someone you never heard of imploring you to JOIN US AT PINK PUSSY CLUB THE HOTTEST SITE FOR XXX LIVE GIRL SEX SHOWS!! or proclaiming OVER 1,000 EROTIC AND EXOTIC SHOWS!!!!!! CLICK HERE TO ENTER or any of hundreds of similar electronic come-ons. Spam--unsolicited junk E-mail--is perhaps the most irritating feature of online life. Its purveyors use powerful software to "harvest" screen names and then ship out bulk electronic mail bearing sales pitches or get-rich-quick schemes. [...] Other Time features: Bruce Handy on last week's Kids Summit: "Why Johnny Can't Surf": http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/971215/technology.america_… .html Time poll on Are Your Kids Safe Online? http://cgi.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/gdml2x/game/time/internet

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Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Doesn't Anonymous have a brother, Neal? Isn't he a playwrite, or > author, or something? > Anybody? Neal Coward?

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Re: Complete package for Cantsin Protocol No. 2
by Charlie Comsec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Steffen Zahn <zahn(a)berlin.snafu.de> wrote: > I have put together a package for Cantsin 2 Signatures, to > generate the keys, sign documents and check signatures. > > Prerequisites are: > > perl Version 5 > libgmp Version 2.* > a C compiler > currently /dev/random for generation of keys and signatures > > precompiled binaries are provided for Linux-ELF (libc-5.*), if you have > that you don't need libgmp. > > Pick it up from http://www.snafu.de/~zahn/cantsin.tar.gz (70 KByte) Have you got a URL I can check out which explains this protocol and how it's superior to, let's say, PGP? Thanks. - --- Finger <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> for PGP public key (Key ID=19BE8B0D) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNIwWngbp0h8ZvosNAQG9CQf+M9d05odxcm4s0D+hQltI5XbXFIE3iCzx Bjl6n7Bs0rrs/oCy3goxTjGwrwrYlDNa7bNYpnXBPDGbRiZ2UE9vGSNY1B4aa/NL vSwjlpG2chPp9rt5JEHiKV2EgUg0zvnK53L+wT4a2EB8xDkBIzcIbdTjThQqegnu IxKD8oGXwloq8hHOxZO9kCqGiUrbUTbLsY2Swt7clYwxnFGL54JS9mw9nlUCgv8m /MKU9w+RWBLzvuQv3yNK4VaTqyu/PJ8hm/9iMLCqiiF6Rghs+8euUVUSseeLJDrc ZApkfzt/JNiu58DLpt1pI3ZReR4lCEVHjbOID/WyOPeVSKdnRrkyug== =q1Hg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Singapore & Freedom
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

harish.pillay(a)brokat.com wrote > ..much deleted text... > >So, yes, the govt does at times choke the entrepreneurship drive >of the local population, but there are industries where the >coexistence of private initiative and govt-linked companies have >been possible and viable. Please advise what industries and the companies involved. >Let's analyze the premise of an educational system. .... >It has been a fine balance between a fully liberal system and >one that generates worker units for the most part of the last >30-35 years. ... It will take 5-10 years before an increasingly >liberal system is in place - an increasing thinking population >that is part of the global information flow that will >characterize the next centuries economies. This last sentence appears to have been taken right out the PAP policy manual, and it is a good policy statement. Educational systems are generally engineered by society to help prepare the students for life in that society. In western societies the educational system is engineered by a number of different groups in that society in what is thought to be in the best interest of the society. Who is doing the planning in Singapore and for what ends? I believe you will find Elder Statesman Lee has a major involvement at this time. If you look you will find an accelerated push to generate a more technical population. Children in Singapore start school at 5 years of age, after 5 years of schooling, what is the daily homework load for a 10 year old student?? Three to 5 hours per day? If this figure is not correct please advise the correct figure. What percentage of parents feel compelled to hire tutors to enhance their child's education or just so they get good grades? Is 60% too low?? What type of bonuses do school principals receive, is it based on the overall grade-point average of the students in their school? Why the big push? Who is the primary beneficiary of this push? Is this being done for the benefit of the worker units or the collective good of the controllers of the political group in power? Harry and his buddies have done a fantastic job with Singapore Inc. over the last 40 years. Harry had a great vision and splendid execution of that vision. Problem now is that he is rather long in the tooth and his people have changed. Instead of loosening up and allowing more democratic freedoms Harry and the boys are finding excuses to state that Singaporeans must work harder and expect less in the way of freedoms. Harry has stated many times that one of the biggest problems with western style democracies is that the voters can defeat a perfectly good government and install a bunch of goofs who spoil everything. True enough, we sometimes vote goofs into power, but at least we have the choice. Harry and the PAP have destroyed every bit of political opposition or made the opposition unpalatable to the voters. >Pray tell me how the SG govt has brought BB into reality? ... Singapore is surrounded by the Muslim hordes who covet their wealth and it has no internal security apparatus? In the 50s Singapore literally had a den of spies. The regional den of spies is now Bangkok. Why do ya figure they all moved their operations?? The Singaporeans politely asked them to leave? Have you ever had any dealings with your nation's security apparatus? If you did you would notice something strange. You just got picked up for something that happened last week but these people know about your whole life. They know how many hours you spend at the office, when you are out of the country, who you socialize with, and any vices you may have. Maybe they really don't do the Big Brother thing, they probably just have a crystal ball and got lucky with a few guesses and bluffed the rest. If you believe this last statement I have a real deal for you on some excellent used cars. When the Singapore government announced their intent to connect every household to the Internet they asked every citizen to become an informant and watch their neighbors (neighbours) for subversive activity and report any such activity to the authorities. Now, if you connect to those 100 restricted porn sites and saved copies of all you viewed on your computer and the authorities discovered that porn what would be your fate? Or are you immune to this threat? >Interesting that you hide behind an anomymous name... I notice your government does not like anonymous dissent either. The standard procedure in Singapore in dealing with trouble makers is to dig up their records, school, National Service, employment, and whatever else they can get and then tear the poor souls apart. Harry has participated in this tactic many times. Just so it will not bother you, I admit I am a low-life. Dropped out of school, fired from every job, do drugs, abuse alcohol, guns, no church, beat my kids, beat my wife, beat my dog, and I hang-out in second-rate strip-joints with bikers who deal drugs and loanshark. Plus I collect welfare..... I use anonymous mail for many reasons. The reason here should be pretty obvious. SingMonger

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No Subject
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hmm. Okay, then. I think Vulis needs each of us to send twenty copies of this back to him in a horribly mutilated state. >I think Vulis uses procmail. > >On 7 Dec 1997, Secret Squirrel wrote: > >> I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. >>

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(no subject)
by Alan Holliday 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Time Magazine on America Online pornospam and Kids Summit
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 8 Dec 97 at 12:44, Declan McCullagh wrote: > http://www.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/971215/technology.a > merica_onlin.html >From the above: "But parents may have to resort to the crude but effective technique of keeping the computer in public view and looking over the kids' shoulders every once in a while. " What a novel idea, Declan, parental supervision! Who would have thought? Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://ross.adnetsol.com Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Safe Speech
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Blue-Nosed Guardian (Nikki Craft, NJ) December 4, 2000; THURSDAY; ALL EDITIONS SECTION: OPINION; HEADLINE: PEDOPHILES IN THE BIOSPHERE; WE MUST STOP SPOKEN CHILD PORNOGRAPHY EVERYWHERE BYLINE: The Record BODY: The increasing presence of child pornography in spoken communications is a national problem that must be dealt with aggressively and quickly. This is not a free-speech or First Ammendment issue. Child pornography is a crime. We do not tolerate it on our computers, and we should not tolerate it in audiospace. Unfortunately, as a Page One article in the Blue-Nosed Guardian pointed out yesterday, audiospace is tailor-made for the dissemination of child pornography. It allows peophiles instant access to explicit descriptions of childhood sexual activity almost anywhere, and it gives distributors and collectors enough anonymity to avoid getting caught and being prosecuted. Using advanced non-digital technology, two pedophiles can meet almost anywhere, and exchange explicit descriptions of childhood sexual activity, with little fear of detection. Phrases like "Timmy, aged 7, has a stiffie" and "Little Mary's muffin swelled and moistened when she saw little Timmy's cute red knob" can be exchanged with ease vicariously victimizing inocent children worldwide by transforming them into sexual objects for pedophiles' selfish gratification. In fact, the ease of communicating descriptions of childhood sexual activity through the spoken word may actually have broadened the audience for child pornography. And law enforcement officials worry that this may lead to increased child abuse, because American parents might actually begin to believe that guilt-free sex-positive messages are good for children, in lieu of the normal beatings and state-mandated psychotherapy. Vice President and famed child-rearing expert Dr. James Dobson has been leading a campaign to make sound waves safe for children. This week, he announced a new partnership between cities and the Justice Department effort to crack down on child pornography, and a toll-free hotline where people may report any neighbors heard discussing the sexuality of minors in terms other than those used in Surgeon General Phyllis Schlafly's "Innocence and Abstinence" report. But law enforcement officials, sound wave experts, and child advocates say it's not that easy, by any means. Even if landlords, businesses, and professionals cooperate in monitoring all speech uttered by persons on their premises, there are hundreds of small conversations which take place in other locations, where people are loathe to police others, because of liability concerns, or because they consider it to be a waste of time. The Blue-Nosed Guardian's article also pointed out that most law enforcement officials are not knowlegable enough to track down child pornography distributors, who are experts at whispering spoken descriptions of child sexual activity and finding new ways to conceal their communications from onlookers. Law enforcement officials may also lack the manpower needed to track down pedophiles. "If we want to break into someones house and install recording equipment," one investigator said, "we actually have to go in front of a judge and get a warrant." Child advocates say they hope to eliminate such "loopholes for pedophiles" in the future. Many more "audiocops" are needed at the federal, state, and local levels, who have the expertise to stay ahead of spoken communication, and much more manpower and training is needed. In New Jersey, state Sen. stupid fuck Andrew Ciesla, has introduced a bill which would set aside $400,000,000 of money stolen from the taxpayers for a special unit to investigate spoken child pornography, and create a 24-hour toll-free state hot line for people to turn in their neighbors. Alerting the authorities is a key component of this crackdown, and Dr. Dobson also announced a national "AudioTip" hotline to report any comments about childhood sexuality which might be overheard. Dr. Dobson also took the opportunity to plug his new book, "Dare to Discipline III: Electrotorture and Enemas." The Vice President is to be commended for seeking ways to stop these ugly predators. But this effort must be more than just lip service. It must result in all Americans understanding that children have no sexual feelings, and engage in no sexual behavior prior to age 18 unless they have been corrupted by pedophiles, and that abstinence is the expected behavior of those over 18, before entering into a stable marriage which can only be terminated by the death of one of the partners. In the meantime, intense pressure should be brought to bear on the non-mute citizen units, and those who supervise them, to make a huge dent in this particularly vile audiocrime, through aggressive self-policing and frequent government-sponsored self-criticism sessions. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Complete package for Cantsin Protocol No. 2
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steffen Zahn wrote: >I have put together a package for Cantsin 2 Signatures, to generate >the keys, sign documents and check signatures. I've been looking this over and it's a nice job. The code is clean and orderly. I haven't had a chance to play with it yet, but it looks like everything is done the right way. For example, it doesn't tell you how many valid signatures a file has, it outputs a fragment of the file for each valid signature. The database of known keys has the nice property that you can name each key anything you like. The source code is completely unencumbered. This is great! For some reason, it has been the custom to issue free software with all sorts of restrictions, in particular restrictions which hamper its commercial use. But, if we are giving it away to people so they will use it, why restrict it? If somebody can use it to start a cypherpunk company, this is a Good Thing. (This can even be a Very Good Thing for the original programmer. ;-) It might be a good idea to publish the SHA1 checksum of the file you are distributing. The checksum of the file I got (cantsin.tar.gz) was: D054C9E4ABD5CEE0C5A4343E5D1E2EF91C00048A I may not approve of the restrictions on free speech in Germany, but at least the German government isn't trying to stop people from publishing arithmetic. The truth is, that for Monty Cantsin's activities, he would get a better deal on free speech if he were German. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm Subject: Re: Complete package for Cantsin Protocol No. 2 To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com 25BA1A9F5B9010DD8C752EDE887E9AF3 [Cantsin Protocol No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Re: "Kids summit" -- CNNfn interview
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 Nov 97 at 13:12, Declan McCullagh wrote: > [I'd still like to hear more on the inner workings of next > week's "kids on the Net" summit from our friends at CDT who > are sponsoring it. The lineup of speakers includes Janet > Reno, Al Gore, and the secretaries of commerce and education. > All joining together to Protect the Children! --Declan] Here is the piece about the CNN show transposed to another, accurately analagous context to show the utter idiocy of what's going on. What's really sad, what's really scary, is how _little_ I actually had to transpose to do this. All I changed were the occurrences of "online," "software," and "Surf." I modified a couple of other related words just to comport with the shift of the metaphor from online to streets/public places. Many paragraphs remain unaltered because they contain none of the key words. For credible transposition, imagine that the "tools" they're discussing are something like a headset, blinders, and body armor that kids can be made to wear while in public to protect them from the realities of public places. Ask yourself how different that would be from the assinine blocking software being discussed in the original interview, and how intelligent is it to presume to think one can mold all public places to be as safe and comfy as the family living room. These people must be on very strong drugs. This is also an indirect statement on the utter superficiality of present day "news" coverage. The original interview _says_ virtually nothing, communicates virtually no facts. It is really just an emotional rallying and back-patting with little discernable in the way of contextual detail. PropagandaMongerII ---------- > HEADLINE: Kids & Public Streets > JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNNfn ANCHOR, ASPHALT JAM: Next week family > advocates, educators and industry leaders are coming together to > discuss ways to keep children safe on public streets. One of the > sponsors of the Streets Summit is Curbwatch, a company that makes > blocking tools to help parents and teachers filter out > objectionable street content. > Joining me now from Stanford, California to discuss the goals > of the summit is Michael Sears. He is the president of Curbwatch. > Michael it's great to have you on ASPHALT JAM. Welcome to you. > MICHAEL SEARS, PRESIDENT, CURBWATCH: Thank you, a pleasure to > be here. > DEFTERIOS: First of all, let's discuss how this summit came > about. Was it a building movement that finally crescendo. > SEARS: I think it is. It's actually the outgrowth of what we > did last June with President Clinton and Vice President Gore. In > fact June and July time frame the SDA (Streets Decency Act) was > overturned. The White House decided to take the initiative and > asked the industry to get together to see what we can do to > actually empower kids and enable kids on the streets. > DEFTERIOS OK. What is the happy medium here, Michael because > that's what everybody is really looking for because the Street > Decency Act did stumble and we had people on both side of the > debate wanting to stake out their territory. What is , in your > view, is the center ground? > SEARS: Well, the debate will continue, but the center ground > really is that it's all about kids. What we're talking about doing > here is bringing together industry and law enforcement and public > policy people and talking about to empower kids on streets and give > them effective tools. Effective tools that are also very easy to > use. > The idea behind that is how can kids actually get onto the > streets, learn, research, discover, play and do it in a really > enriching environment. But also we realize that there are a lot of > safety concerns in public places. That's probably what we're going > to talk about primarily. > DEFTERIOS: How about the ACLU, they were raising concerns > about being blocked out here or filtration or censorship on the > extreme. How do you deal with that side of - the people on that > side of the debate? > SEARS: It's a slippery slope. The idea here is do we block, > companies like Curbwatch, do we block content in public places. > The idea once again is we target your typical 12 year old in the > US. If that 12 year old should see something or if that 12 years > old needs to discover something we try to make sure that we have > all of our technology, all of our processes in place to insure that > information comes forward. Such as, we don't block the idea of > breast, for instance, because breast could be talking about a > chicken recipe. It could be talk about breast cancer. However, if > it's a sexually explicit depiction or expression of that word > that's where you come in and use filtering tools to block. > DEFTERIOS: There's another side to this, of course, that kids > are often much more street savvy than their parents. How do you > over that hurdle? > SEARS: That's a major hurdle. In fact we're talking about > empowering kids with effective tools, but those tools have to be > very easy to use and the ease of use isn't really for the kids > because the kids know how to do this stuff. They know what's on the > streets. They know what's out there and they know how to get > there. What we really provide are the easy to use tools for mom > and dad. So mom and dad pointing and clicking and turning switches > on and off very easily can really control the family's environment. > DEFTERIOS: As you know, this is a political hot potato for > President Clinton because he didn't want to seem extreme on both > side and he would like industry to work it out. When it is all > said and done, Michael, what is the solution here? > SEARS: Well, the solution that this market is all about is > called parental control. Curbwatch started the market about three > years ago and the word parental control itself was important not > only because it's the technology, but because of those first two > words, parental control. Mom and dad have to be involved. Mom and > dad have to engage not only to help the kids in public places, but > also make sure that in street conversations or with graffiti or > with explicit pictures they can really sit down and talk to the > kids and moderate what their kids are doing. We're just a tool. > DEFTERIOS: This is not a government. Not to interrupt you, > but we're almost out of time here. But this is, you're saying, not > government intervention then. > SEARS: Absolutely. > DEFTERIOS: The technology is out there to let the families > tackle this on their own. > SEARS: That on and off switch should be in the hands of moms > and dads not the government. > DEFTERIOS: OK, great. How about your market share before we > let you go tonight? How are you faring against your competition? > SEARS: I think we're doing very well. All the buzz that's > been happening over the last couple of months has helped our shares > as well as our competitors. We've shipped millions of copies, 7.2 > last July. We haven't done the survey lately, but we're clearly in > the tens of millions right now. > DEFTERIOS: OK. It's great to have you. > SEARS: Great to be here. Thanks very much. > DEFTERIOS: And have a nice Thanksgiving holiday. > SEARS: Same to you. Take care. > DEFTERIOS: My pleasure. Michael Sears, president of Curbwatch, > joining us from Stanford, California.

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mail2news gateway (fwd)
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone has more info ------ For the past several weeks, a right wing extremist group in Topeka, Kansas has been tampering with mail2news gateways, including yours, to prevent several people who oppose their hate agenda from posting to the usenet through your gateway. The affected gateways include at least alt.revisionism, alt.christnet, alt.politics.homosexuality and alt.abortion. Posts are returned "user unknown" suggesting that the mailbox may have been deleted. This is a group of *fanatics* (Westboro Baptist Church) whose website godhatesfags.com may be known to you. They also operate several other websites under aliases the best-known of which is revwhite.bestsites.net. They advocate murdering abortion clinic workers, homosexuals and blacks. 'Rev White' (actually a member of the Fred Phelps family aka Westboro Baptist Church) was responsible for conducting a reign of terrorism last year (see "WIRED" magazine, Jan. 1997) against the irc that included death threats and operator sabotage. Several in this group are highly skilled in hacking and are willing to spend whatever time it takes launching denial of service attacks so that some of their opponents' viewpoints can't be posted. And they're willing to do this everyday if necessary to harass and intimidate others into silence. Several of them have criminal records in Topeka. I'm writing to ask you in the name of fair play to re-open these gateways and do whatever is necessary to keep them open. Better yet, I hope you can kept them in the act like a Canadian ISP did and report them to Special Agent Tom Maiorana FBI 300 U.S. Courthouse Kansas City, MO 64106 816-221-6100 Thank you for whatever assistance you can be in this matter. -- Alex de Joode | usura(a)SABOTAGE.ORG | http://www.sabotage.org Sabotage Internet: Your Internet Problem Provider.

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Message
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steve Schear wrote: >Nerthus wrote: >>Might be a bit of a stretch, but I think this is because money today is >>inherently a liability, that is a debt that someone, somewhere has promised >>to pay back. > >You've got this all backwards. The bearer certificates (paper money) issued >by governments is an interest-free loan by those holding the paper to the >issuer. This is true, but it is only part of the picture. The paper currency issuer (the central bank) is enjoying seigniorage, that is -- in the case of the US - -- the Federal Reserve is collecting revenue from the interest earned on the outstanding paper dollars. This earned interest is given to the Treasury and accounted for as revenue for the federal government. However, this tells us nothing about the currency's real worth. We need to look deeper to find the source of the paper currency's value. When the US government wants to create money, it issues debt instruments such as T-Bills to the Fed or to a commercial bank. The bank then credits the government's deposit (checking) account for the face value of the T-Bill. The bank believes it will collect this money back plus interest in a certain amount of time. The government can then ask the Fed to issue some paper cash in exchange for the deposit currency (new paper is then created). The T-Bill is nothing but a promise by the federal government to pay back a debt. The government has taken a loan from a bank and promises to pay it back in 1,5,10 or 30 years with interest. The money to pay it back comes directly from the tax revenues the government collects from its citizens. Thus paper currency is based on the debt saddled upon future generations of citizens/taxpayers. Interestingly, this is not much different than John Q. Public getting cash advances on his credits cards for a few years and then wondering why he is $25k in the hole and growing at 18% per annum. Many people, especially politicians, always go for the short term gain, regardless of the long term consequences. Debt-based currency (primarily a 20th century phenomenon) has ushered in a new era of political and financial irresponsibility. Eventually the debts must either be reneged on or paid off. When that time finally comes, neither option will paint a pretty picture. Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNIxg7Ra1d3zm4nqOEQJnnwCfaOLKaiCiYuqUJRSVBLc1Q6aZ4VIAoNJY EdB96VwVlxlcI9u3Glnwjf1y =vMJq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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