December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Graham-John Bullers [SMTP:real@EDMC.net] wrote: > > >As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I > >would just like to say I think the posts were a > >joke. With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to > >the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging > >this. > > > To the government readers of this list... Ah, yes, the good old days when Vulis was here. ---guy * Re: State Charges in Weaver Case * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM (dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com) * Fri, 22 Aug 97 02:09:13 EDT * * Mike Duvos <enoch(a)zipcon.net> writes: * > * > Shouldn't it be ... involuntary * > manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed * > attacker? * * No, it should be a $100 reward for icing a motherfucking fed. * * --- * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM * Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps ...and elsewhere in Usenet... ...soliciting funds for terrorist groups to kill a jewish couple: # Subject: The final solution for the premature ejaculation problem # From: shlomo(a)bwalk.dm.com (Rabbi Shlomo Ruthenberg) # Date: 1996/06/05 # Organization: Young Israel of Red Hook # Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,alt.religion.islam, # alt.politics.white-Power,alt.2600,alt.revenge,alt.revisionism # # # As a religious Jew, I am shocked that none of: Hamas / Hizballah / # Party of God / Revolutionary Justice Organization / Organization # for the Oppressed on Earth / Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of # Palestine / Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine # / Ansar Allah / Palestine Liberation Front / Followers of the # Prophet Muhammad / Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims # / Fatah Revolutionary Council / Arab Revolutionary Brigades / # Islamic Resistance Movement / Vanguards of Conquest (whew!) have # gotten around porking the Jewish Fascist Yoni Kamens or his zonah # wife. You can help by mailing your donations (cash only) to: # # Dr. Ramadan Abdullah Mohamed Shallah # Dr. Musa Abu-Marzuq # c/o Arab Republic of Palestine Mission to the United Nations # 115 E 65 St, New York, NY 10023, tel: (212) 288-8500 # # Be sure to mark all envelopes "for the Yoni Kamens fund"!

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, David Honig wrote: > There is no evidence that Clinton actually *inhaled* on the > flavored cigar... Something here is a little fishy...

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Clinton's fake apologies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The annoying thing about Clinton's recent behavior is that he never comes right out and apologizes, but the press always says he does. Case in point: > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saying ``I have sinned,'' a tearful President > Clinton made an impassioned plea Friday for forgiveness from Monica > Lewinsky and others and vowed to fight hard to keep his job. But what did he say? > ``I don't think there is a fancy way to say that I have sinned,'' > Clinton said, hours before independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report > to Congress on his eight-month investigation into the Lewinsky scandal > was to be made public. He didn't say that he had sinned, he said that there wasn't a fancy way to say that he had sinned. He never came right out and said, "I have sinned". Another example: > ``It is important to me that everybody who has been hurt know that the > sorrow I feel is genuine -- first and most important my family, also my > friends, my staff, my cabinet, Monica Lewinsky and her family, and the > American people. I have asked all for their forgiveness,'' said Clinton. > > It was the first time he had actually asked publicly for the forgiveness > of Lewinsky... But he didn't ask publicly for the forgiveness of Lewinsky. He said that he had already asked her for forgiveness. Is this really true? Has he really spoken with her? Or is it another lie? Another example, from while Clinton was in Ireland: > DUBLIN, Ireland (AP) - President Clinton said for the first time Friday > ``I'm sorry'' about his affair with Monica Lewinsky, describing his > behavior as indefensible as he sought to calm the growing storm that > has shaken his presidency. Here's what he actually said: > ``I've already said that I made a bad mistake, it was indefensible and > I'm sorry about it,'' Clinton said, questioned at a photo opportunity > with Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern. It was the first time he had > used the word ``sorry.'' The wording is not quite as obvious here, but in the video record it was clear that he was saying that he had already said that his behavior was indefensible and that he was sorry about it. Of course, this is not true, he had never said that. Knowing Clinton's lawyerlike mind, we can only assume that his wording is carefully chosen. He could easily have said, "I don't think there is a fancy way to say it, but I have sinned," or, with regard to Lewinsky and company, "I ask here for forgiveness from them all." No doubt he takes a measure of satisfaction in knowing that his calculated public contriteness is carefully arranged to make it seem like he is saying things which he actually is not. Clinton loves lies, and it must be thrilling to lie brazenly and to be praised for his openness and honesty as he does so. For a professional hypocrite like Clinton, there can be no greater reward.

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Monica, slavegirl of Gor (fwd)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This was found on a different mailing lists. names have been removed to protect the guilty. alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Re: Monica, slavegirl of Gor The best opinion I've heard so far on this topic: "If the government's going to spend $50 million on pornography, I'd rather it be by artists I support." Carol

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RE: Bits are Bits
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Bryan [SMTP:sbryan@vendorsystems.com] [...] > But I have not yet seen CD-ROMs for rent or even available to > check out for home use from the public library. [...] [forgive the lame quoting format - I'm using a Microsoft product.] I was in my town library yesterday, and they were loaning CDROMs. I was in a hurry, so did not check the details. At least one was made by National Geographic. (BTW: You can get the *entire* *run* of NG on CDROM, which I think is pretty neat.) Peter Trei

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Fighting DMV clerical errors in NYC:
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A friend of mine asked me to forward this question to you guys: IMHO he needs a good lawyer, but maybe someone here knows more: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Any particular thing you want to fight @ the DMV or just in general? They are preventing me from renewing my license due to a clerical error they made over a year ago. Since I did not respond to their letter (I didn't understand what they were talking about) they suspended my license. That caused my insurance company to drop me. When I renewed my insurance (a second error, if you have a suspension you can not get insurance) they told me it was cleared. I need to talk to someone who can help me resolve this without me having to hand in my license and plate for the 90 day penalty -- =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder(a)sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================

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RE: Rental of PC software...
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

USC Title 17 § 109 subsec (b)(1)(A) ...unless authorized by the ...owner of copyright in a computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program), ...[no] person in possession of a particular copy of a computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program), may, for the purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage, dispose of, or authorize the disposal of, the possession of that ...computer program (including any tape, disk, or other medium embodying such program) by rental, lease, or lending, or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental, lease, or lending. ... The transfer of possession of a lawfully made copy of a computer program by a nonprofit educational institution to another nonprofit educational institution or to faculty, staff, and students does not constitute rental, lease, or lending for direct or indirect commercial purposes under this subsection. (B) This subsection does not apply to - (i) a computer program which is embodied in a machine or product and which cannot be copied during the ordinary operation or use of the machine or product; or (ii) a computer program embodied in or used in conjunction with a limited purpose computer that is designed for playing video games and may be designed for other purposes. ... (2)(A) Nothing in this subsection shall apply to the lending of a computer program for nonprofit purposes by a nonprofit library, if each copy of a computer program which is lent by such library has affixed to the packaging containing the program a warning of copyright in accordance with requirements that the Register of Copyrights shall prescribe by regulation. (B) Not later than three years after the date of the enactment of the Computer Software Rental Amendments Act of 1990, and at such times thereafter as the Register of Copyright considers appropriate, the Register of Copyrights, after consultation with representatives of copyright owners and librarians, shall submit to the Congress a report stating whether this paragraph has achieved its intended purpose of maintaining the integrity of the copyright system while providing nonprofit libraries the capability to fulfill their function. Such report shall advise the Congress as to any information or recommendations that the Register of Copyrights considers necessary to carry out the purposes of this subsection.

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RE: oil, greens, recycling, and poly-ticks.
by Fisher Mark 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ray Arachelian writes: >Just out of curiosity what are prices around where you guys live? Prices here range from .97-.99 for name brands (Shell, etc.) and around .89 for no-name brands right now. ========================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm(a)indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN "Their walls are built of cannon balls, their motto is 'Don't Tread on Me'" > . >

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Re: If there's a trial will some of us be witnesses?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > at one time, kevin mitnick was on this list, rumor has > it. probably many of the world's premiere hackers have been at one time or > another. L. Detweiler and Phiber Optik were concurrently subscribed in early '93. But you know that, don't you?

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Starr report
by J. Michael 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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LATE BREAKING NEWS! - September 11, 1998 5:30PM EST
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

************************************************************ Late today, the FCC released its long-awaited order extending the October 25, 1998, CALEA compliance deadline 20 months to June 30, 2000. The Commission will soon initiate a rulemaking proceeding to consider whether modifications to the core J-STD-025 standard may be necessary to comply with CALEA. Visit WOW-COM for more details. http://www.wow-com.com/professional/ Specific News Story is: http://www.wow-com.com/results/professional/news/frameindex.cfm?articlei d=3410 ************************************************************

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SNET: Plans for internet banks in Australia, says Ernst & Young
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: jeremy.compton(a)stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Jeremy Compton) Subject: SNET: Plans for internet banks in Australia, says Ernst & Young Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:04:23 +1200 To: snetnews(a)world.std.com -> SNETNEWS Mailing List Plans for internet banks in Australia, says Ernst & Young Sydney, Sept 9 AAP - Offshore and local companies have strategic plans to establish stand alone Internet banks in Australia to compete with the existing banking network, financial services consultants Ernst & Young said today. Ernst & Young partner Andrew Keene, who specialises in technology strategy for financial institutions, said the international consulting firm was aware of both overseas and domestic companies with plans for internet banks. "There are some plans that we are aware of," Mr Keene told reporters. "I believe most of the plans are formative." He declined to name the companies. Ernst & Young yesterday released its latest report on technology in banking and financial services, with more t0 of the world's largest financial institutions in 26 countries participating in the seventh global study. Entitled Electronic Commerce and Connecting to the Customer, the report analyses the technology spending plans of banks, insurance companies, asset management and brokerage institutions in the United States, Europe, Asia and Australia. The report found that technology spending priorities of Australia's financial institutions to develop new customer channels have been surpassed by the "more immediate issues" of mergers and acquisitions, the millennium bug and the Euro. Kevin Hall, the national leader of Ernst & Young's Australian financial services consulting group, said that the new spending priorities "have meant that spending on the critical area of improved customer services has been delayed". He said that the report found that financial institutions are "anticipating heavy increases" in technology spending, with technology budgets rising 14 percent in calendar 1998, tapering off to six percent by 2001. "But while spending rates will decline over time, the actual budget amounts will continue to increase, with actual budgets project to double between 1992 and 2000," he said. However, technology budgets are predominantly being spent on mandated projects such as computer upgrades to avoid the Year 2000 software date problem. The survey also found that only 12 percent of Australian institutions believed that the internet will help them retain customers and business, compared to 47 percent of US respondents and 34 percent of European respondents. Russell Ives, a data warehouse specialist at the firm, said that Australian banks view Internet services such as electronic commerce or e-commerce as cost-saving devices whereas US banks used it to "focus on retaining customers". "The great opportunity that exists for financial institutions in Australia is to refocus their e-commerce strategy towards customer retention," said Mr Hall, adding that some institutions are "unsure how to use" e-commerce. Australian financial institutions are also behind their overseas counterparts in integrating customer data to develop sophisticated knowledge of customer needs to enhance the cross-selling of products and target services. "Nobody has really integrated its completely," Mr Hall said of Australian financial institutions. Mr Ives said that banks have to advance data integration rapidly, especially when it comes to refocusing e-commerce strategies on customer retention. Overseas banks such as Wells Fargo, Bank of Montreal and ING Bank are some of the leaders in e-commerce and internet. "So our conclusion is that the most effective financial institutions will develop alliances to deliver electronic commerce," Mr Keene said. AAP pjg 10/09/98 08-09NZ © New Zealand Press Association -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo(a)world.std.com -> Posted by: jeremy.compton(a)stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Jeremy Compton)

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IP: Web sites preparing for Starr report onslaught
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Web sites preparing for Starr report onslaught Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:40:46 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Fox News - AP Web sites preparing for Starr report onslaught 2.42 a.m. ET (642 GMT) September 11, 1998 By Chris Allbritton, Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) Web surfers hoping to view portions of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's report when it goes online today instead may need to wait in line. An expert in high-volume Web sites said millions of Web surfers clustered around Web sites like people used to cluster around teletype machines waiting for the latest dispatches from news wire services probably will swamp the government's computers. "I would imagine a lot of people getting a 'Site Not Available' (message),'' said J.D. Zeeman, who coordinated IBM's Web site for the Winter Olympics in Nagano, Japan, earlier this year. At one point, the Olympics site was getting more than 110,000 hits a minute, Zeeman said. By Thursday afternoon, the crush of people visiting the House's Web site called Thomas prompted this message: "The Library of Congress is aware of public statements announcing the availability of the Independent Counsel's report at this site. As yet, the House of Representatives has taken no action regarding the public availability of this report.'' A House vote on releasing the report was planned for today. "The technology exists to handle this kind of load today, but it literally takes months to get it in place,'' Zeeman said. "Unless they've done something, I wouldn't imagine they would be adequately prepared.'' A congressional source said the House is adequately prepared, posting the report on government sites and distributing formatted copies to Web sites of major newspapers, magazines, The Associated Press and other news services, and online outlets such as America Online and Yahoo! The Web has become a popular way to distribute government documents in the past few years, but the last time a government body tried to release red-hot documents on the Web, it was a disaster. It was the case of Louise Woodward, the British au pair accused of murder. In November 1997, Massachusetts Superior Court Judge Hiller B. Zobel said he would release on the Web his decision to reduce Woodward's conviction to manslaughter. Millions on both sides of the Atlantic who had followed the story eagerly anticipated the first online release of a criminal court ruling. But a power outage delayed the ruling for hours, and heavy traffic at Web sites made it almost impossible for people to read the decision once it was online. The foul-up with the Woodward decision, while embarrassing, was not unique. News sites usually slow down, or even crash, when the always increasing number of Web surfers rushes online for news. It happened during the Woodward case, after the death of Princess Diana and during the recent gyrations of the stock market. The slowdowns are just the nature of news on the Internet. The parallel is a newspaper that assigns many reporters to a major story such as the Oklahoma City bombing, or printing a lengthy report by an independent counsel. "I guess when you think of throwing all sorts of reporters on a story, you're straining resources,'' said Ruth Gersh, editor of AP's multimedia services. "If you put up the report on the Web, it uses up resources which we call bandwidth.'' Congressional leaders expect the report to be available this afternoon through these government Web addresses: http://thomas.loc.gov/icreport http://www.house.gov/icreport © 1998 Associated Press. All rights reserved. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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IP: Privacy: Companies admit spying on staff
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Privacy: Companies admit spying on staff Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:14:18 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: The Age (Australia) http://www.theage.com.au:80/daily/980910/news/news19.html Companies admit spying on staff By LEON GETTLER More than one in two of Australia's largest companies carry out video surveillance of their employees and the general public, a survey has found. The survey revealed that 94 per cent of the companies also monitored employees' phone conversations, electronic mail and Internet usage although the focus appeared to be mostly on volume and frequency rather than content. For example, 16 per cent monitored phone usage while the conversations themselves were only monitored by 2 per cent. Similarly, email usage was monitored by 13 per cent while 6 per cent of the companies were combing through the actual messages. Scrutiny of Internet usage would also reveal the web sites that employees had visited. The PricewaterhouseCoopers survey found that 65 per cent of companies regarded monitoring as a normal part of employment and 85 per had informed their employees that they were being watched. However, they were often not as forthcoming about seemingly minor details, like time and place. PricewaterhouseCoopers information and security partner Mr Stephen Woolley said there was a better than 50-50 chance that Australians would be filmed or recorded at some stage during the day. In the case of the general public, it would be without their consent. ``As is the practice of companies both here and overseas, this information will probably go on file for some years,'' Mr Woolley said. About half the companies said information gathered in Australia on customers, employees and the general public was sent overseas for international data bases. The study also revealed alarming gaps in the privacy guidelines of some companies. Only 35 per cent had formally documented privacy policies in place and 38 per cent said they did not undertake any monitoring to ensure compliance with in-house privacy guidelines. Eight out of 10 organisations did not require staff to undertake privacy training. The survey covered 65 of Australia's largest companies spanning across all major industries including utilities, telecommunications, natural resources, retail, credit, banking and finance, insurance and manufacturing. Based on their total turnover and size of assets, the companies that responded to the survey would represent more than half of corporate Australia. More than one in 10 companies did not inform staff that they could be monitored. Published by The Age Online Pty Ltd ACN 069 962 885 ©1998 David Syme & Co Ltd ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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Starr Report on Openpgp.net
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies
by jimg＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, there's crypto content in this msg... a passing reference four paragraphs down. Somebody said: > The annoying thing about Clinton's recent behavior is that he never > comes right out and apologizes, but the press always says he does. Somebody goes on to do the whole Apology Watch number in detail. It doesn't matter. One commentator a few weeks ago had a good line for it: "All mea and no culpa." But so what? This whole apology watch is totally meaningless. We know he can perform sincere-looking speeches on demand, and that's largely why we elected him. If he gives another one and says this time that he's really <very> <very> sorry and he's guilty as hell, I couldn't be more impressed. Or less. What he says about it is irrelevant. This whole "sex scandal" thing is ludicrous also -- we knew he was a horn-dog when we elected him. Yes, my sexual morality is considerably higher than his, but so what? Sexual abstinence has never been a criterion for being President, and probably only one President in living memory <didn't> have sex outside of wedlock... Peter Langston published a "Know your Presidents" column in the last few days, a quiz regarding which Presidents had done what to whom in the Oval Office. Regarding covering up the sex -- so what? When he said they weren't having sex back in February, she was denying it at the time, so it'd take a pretty sleazy character to say he was schtupping her and she was lying about it. The fact is that this sex between consenting adults thing is the best Starr could do with his Whitewater investigation after umpteen years and witnesses and millions of dollars, and I'm not impressed. I'm <much> more impressed with the kind of allegations Softwar digs up -- sweetheart deals for some company to send encryption to China while sitting on the bulk of the domestic encryption industry, for example. If he's really done something that involves treason or high crimes and misdemeanors, let's hear about it and act on it. But airing soiled linen in public isn't germane. If they <do> decide this is now a requirement for high office, I'd like to see all the Congresscritters who've had sex out of wedlock and concealed it take one step forward. Shall we make hypocrisy in high office impeachable also? Today Dave Farber noted that if the CDA were constitutional (which it isn't) Congress wouldn't have been allowed to drool over all these salacious bits on the public networks. Jim

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Re: Newspaper Ad Project
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think you'll find that you can buy multicolumn display ads cheaper than classifieds --where you can also get multi-column. display ad is almost always cheaper for one shot; and, you have a choice of position --and therefore cost On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Jim Choate wrote: >Hi, > >I was wondering if we might go ahead and set a date for publishing across >the country the 3-line Perl RSA. I would like to suggest something like >Halloween, at least a month a way. > >The cpunks here in Austin believe we can handle Austin, Houston, Dallas, Ft. >Worth, San Antonio, and El Paso. > >One issue is that the columns in the paper are pretty limited, so it won't >be 3 lines in reality. Anybody know the standard paper column width? Who >wants to reformat the Perl? >

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CDA? What CDA?
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN. Pathfinder. Everybody and his dog with a website. The White House. Posting "indecent material" on the web. I mean, I'm impressed. (A bit more seriously though: could this fact possibly help - in the future - if the US gvt was again seeking to "curb indecency onm the Net"?)

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday, September 13, 1998 - 19:23:30 MET Talk about unimaginable control. How many times did Monica provoke William Jefferson Clinton? Four or five, before he deigned that there should be a denouement? And why? Because, deep in his heart, he knew it was just wrong! Impeachment? Hardly. Instead, Congress should award this Man, our magnificent President, a new decoration, the Presidential Blue Spheres of Steel! Can one imagine any other person on Earth with such iron control? Fortunately, yes! And who could this be? You guessed it! None other than Will-O-Irons buddy and potential replacement, Ol Stiffy himself, Al. O blessed land. O fortunate realm. This is one American who will sleep more soundly tonight, knowing that, whatever the provocation, there can be no accidental discharge of US weaponry, that the finger on the button is controlled by a Will-of-Iron.

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Starr report and CDA
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The US government violates their own CDA by posting this graphically detailed report to the Internet. Am I the only one that doesn't find that ironic. Well it's good ammo (perhaps) for the next time the CDA comes up. Matt > > http://www.cnn.com/starr.report/

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17 Dec '03

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Access to Eudora Export Controlled Archives
by Eudora Export Control Team 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by Denver Liu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Altoids & email
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"o.(708) Ms. Lewinsky gave him an antique paperweight in the shape of the White House.(709) She also showed him an email describing the effect of chewing Altoid mints before performing oral sex. Ms. Lewinsky was chewing Altoids at the time, but the President replied that he did not have enough time for oral sex.(710) " So she followed the circulating email neterotica.. too bad she didn't know about infosec... "Some of Ms. Lewinsky's statements about the relationship were contemporaneously memorialized. These include deleted email recovered from her home computer and her Pentagon computer, email messages retained by two of the recipients,"

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Governemnts should give up regulating Internet [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Sat Sep 12 09:13:45 1998 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199809121413.JAA15418(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Governemnts should give up regulating Internet [CNN] To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:13:39 -0500 (CDT) Cc: friends(a)ssz.com (Ravage's Friends) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2001 Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9809/11/govnet.idg/ > GOVERNMENTS CAN'T HANDLE INTERNET, SAYS MAGAZINER > September 11, 1998 > Web posted at 1:20 PM EDT > > by Jana Sanchez-Klein > > LONDON (IDG) -- European countries should cooperate with the U.S. to > create an Internet that is regulated by the industry rather than by > governments, said Ira Magaziner, senior adviser to U.S. President Bill > Clinton for Internet policy development, at The Wall Street Journal > Europe's Fifth Annual CEO Summit on Converging Technologies. > > "We are trying to come to an agreement with the European Union where > they recognize our approach," said Magaziner, a speaker at the > conference here today. > > He outlined the importance of the Internet to the U.S. and world > economies and said that it was not up to governments to attempt to > control Internet use and commerce. Magaziner attributed one-third of > all economic growth in the U.S. to the building of the Internet. But, > he warned, "if goods are overtaxed or overregulated, it's hard to do > business. The private sector should lead." > > Governments are ill-equipped to handle the Internet, because it > changes too rapidly, it's too decentralized and too international, > suggested Magaziner. > > "The digital age moves too quickly for government action," he said. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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