December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Gary Burnore vs. Earth (Was: Value of Annon. Remailers)
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <sysadmin(a)mfn.org> > > Obviously, as defenders of this man's right to post material offensive > to Burnore, we too came under attack. One man's attack is another's defense. > The point here is that what little survives about this lunatic child > molester (he has even successfully had his North Carolina Sex Offender record > removed!),... Gee, why don't you ask North Carolina why, in writing? > Yes, I know, at least half of you are sitting here going "now why did they > bother us with that?". The answer is we feel VERY strongly that if not for > what [little] we were able to find as a result of A/R's, we would never have > been able to figure this clown out at all. And loco though he may be, he is > also a *prodigious* pain in the ass,... Again, ying/yang. Let us know when you have an original thought. ---guy

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RE: DNA
by Richard.Bragg＠ssa.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ok so the genotype is the same (same DNA) but the phenotype is different (what you see). It's more complex than this but there are all sorts of ways that genes express themselves and how this can be changed. A good dose of phenol or benzene can do wonders to your genetic material. A trip to Windscale (sorry Selafield) to inspect the inside of the reactor vessel etc all has an effect. DNA testing would probably never look at the entire sequence anyway. It would look at enough to give near unique markers. Using a "drill down" technique to gradually exclude until only one remains. ie normal number of gene pairs (not many people live with duff code in here but there are some) male vs female (50%) blood group etc Why use actual matching until you need to, it's expensive. You get down to a handful and test those on a wider range of codes. You hope the samples are good and the genes haven't been damaged or contaminated. Don't rely on the science. The science is our tool NOT us of the science. We already rely too much on the technology, science, methods etc. This is not a scientific way of working. Anyway have fun!! Hwyl

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RE: DNA
by Walter Burton 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: X [mailto:xasper8d@lobo.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 10:00 AM > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: RE: DNA > [snip] > so explain why my brother has smooth > hands and fingers with almost no > prints (lucky bastard!) and mine look > like mother teresa's face... Wear-and-tear? > (probably more now than before, eh?) Yecch! \\/alter

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Re: Gary Burnore vs. Earth (Was: Value of Annon. Remailers)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Missouri FreeNet Administration <sysadmin(a)mfn.org> wrote: > First off, let us state up front that this is an aside to the previous > poster, and not totally on-point: feel free to hit the delete key, and > accept our apologies if this is a problem. > > About two months ago, we met the infamous Burnore & Company while > defending a semi-annonymous UseNet poster calling himself "Outlaw-Frog-Raper". > It seems that in classical Burnore style "OFR" found himself the sudden > victim of [literally] daily TOS/SPAM complaints by Burnore and Co. for making > use of UseNet to air his decidedly anti-police positions (it's odd how "pro > police" Burnore is, isn't it?). Given Gary Burnore's criminal record, he needs all the sucking up to the police he can get. In addition to his arrest and conviction for molesting his girlfriend's daughter in Santa Clara, CA, he was also arrested for unlawful assembly for his participation in Critical Mass' bicycle blockade of the streets of San Francisco during rush hour. (See: http://www.e-media.com/cm/sac.html ) And this criminal has the chutzpah to try and be a net Nazi as well. This same self-righteous individual once lectured another netizen about how it's wrong to "fight abuse with abuse". > Obviously, as defenders of this man's right to post material offensive > to Burnore, we too came under attack. Fortunately, we have been with > our upstream provider for a long time, and are on *very* good terms: they told > Burnore to keep his complaints to himself. But I digress... The best defense against censorious cretins like Gary Burnore is education. That's what the victims of the infamous "Rev." Steve Winter (who also lives in Raleigh, NC, BTW) had to do to counteract his abusive tactics. A "Steve Winter FAQ" was compiled and posted to Usenet as well as being published on the web. People who are the subject of his harassment tactics have something to show to their ISPs, employers, etc. when Winter makes his bogus threats. > As this "war" intensified, we attempted to determine just who in the hell > this lunatic *was*, as nobody here is a regular Usenet follower (just when > we have our slow periods, we'll check in with the loons to kill a couple of > hours...). To our surprise, we discovered that while Burnore/Databasix/etc. > are known far and wide, the actual traffic that passes between them and the rest > of the Earthly population is pretty well eradicated. Here's a guy who has actually > sat down and deleted (according to DejaNews) *tens of thousands* of his -own- posts! > Not to mention the unknown number of posts which he has "thoughtfully taken care of > for those others who forgot to do so themselves"... This is the same Gary Burnore who cajoled an anonymous whistleblower for "hiding behind a remailer" and boasted "I have nothing to hide", although he himself attempts to gain plausible deniability for his own posts by preventing an impartial third party from archiving them, then claiming they were "forged" if he inserted his foot too far into his mouth. Not only does Gary hide his own posts behind an X-No-Archive header, but posts critical of him have a tendency to be cancelled through forgery. He screwed up once and cancelled a post critical of him that was cross-posted to one of the news.admin.net-abuse.* NGs. Unfortunately for him, an anti-cancel-bot on that NG reposted the cancelled message along with a copy of the forged cancellation message sent by ... guess who ... Gary Burnore! Oops, Gary, can you say "busted"? > The point here is that what little survives about this lunatic child > molester (he has even successfully had his North Carolina Sex Offender record > removed!), has almost all come through *some* annonymizer. Whether a MixMaster, > or Cajones (RIP) "intentional annonymizer", or an "unintentional annonymizer" > such as a large [cypherpunks] listserv with "bad headers". By his own account, Gary Burnore spent nearly $30K getting the child molestation charge plea-bargained down to a misdemeanor. My guess is that he has no money left to carry through on his idle threats of frivolous legal action against those on his lengthy enemies list. For example, when Jeff Burchell demanded a letter from Gary's lawyer when he was demanding that Jeff turn over his remailer logs to DataBasix, what Jeff received was a letter from Gary's girlfriend Belinda Bryan <eridani(a)databasix.com> impersonating a lawyer. For Jeff's account of that episode, visit: http://calvo.teleco.ulpgc.es/listas/cypherpunks@infonex.com/HTML-1997-11/ms… > We submit that it only takes one successful argument, even though there be > a million such arguments available, to "proof" the value of an annoymous remailer. > we then extend the original Burnore story (presented in part below) in further > support. It proves that censorship need not originate with a governmental body. All it takes is a determined individual with more time available to harass than his victims do to defend against it. > Yes, I know, at least half of you are sitting here going "now why did they > bother us with that?". The answer is we feel VERY strongly that if not for > what [little] we were able to find as a result of A/R's, we would never have > been able to figure this clown out at all. And loco though he may be, he is > also a *prodigious* pain in the ass, who represents a real, true threat to > what little freedoms we still have in the US. Burnore isn't a loner in the > political sense: he's actually becoming pretty mainstream. If A/R's can help > to keep scum like him in the light, where he can't hide his hypocrises [sp?] > through a cancel or "DejaNuke", then they are one of our most important national > resources, and should be defended (and *funded*) as such! The problem is that most dissidents have a weak point somewhere where they are vulnerable, whether it be a censorious hate mail campaign to his/her ISP or employer, mail bombing, spam baiting, forged mailing list subscriptions, or one of countless other denial-of-service attacks that Gary Burnore, Belinda Bryan, Billy McClatchie (aka "Wotan"), or otther members of the DataBasix abuse factory can conjure up. > Just our [very biased] $.02 worth... > > The full-time [yet totally volunteer] staff of Missouri FreeNet: > > J.A. Terranson, sysadmin(a)mfn.org > John Blau, jb214(a)mfn.org > Beatrice Hynes, beatrice(a)mfn.org > Frescenne "M", support(a)mfn.org > A. Pates, support(a)mfn.org > > </LURK ON> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > <huge brevity snippage> > > Consider the episode last year with Gary Burnore and DataBasix vs. > Jeff Burchell and his Mailmasher and Huge Cajones machines. > Made-to-order abuse appeared right on cue to reinforce the claims > that Burnore and his girlfriend Belinda Bryan had made. And now > we've learned the real truth behind the whole episode. While Gary > Burnore was living with another girlfriend in Santa Clara, CA, he > was also molesting her teenaged daughter. An anonymous > whistleblower attempted to warn the girl's mother as well as her > school officials by anonymous e-mail. Burnore went ballistic and > falsely claimed "harassment". But the whistleblower was ultimately > vindicated when Burnore pled guilty to the molestation charge, was > placed on probation, and was required to register as a sex offender. > Unable to silence the whistleblower, Burnore began a campaign of > harassment against the operators of the remailers that were being > used to expose him. IOW, if you can't refute the message, shoot the > messenger. And if you can't shoot the messenger, attempt to disable > his means of communication (the remailers net). > > I recounted this case history, which can be researched in various > usenet archives by anyone interested, just to demonstrate that one > man's "harassment" can well be another man's investigative > journalism, even if the journalist or whistleblower is not in a > position to expose him/herself to retaliation by the wrongdoer, > which has been (coincidentally?) reported by virtually anyone who > has dared to challenge Gary Burnore publicly.

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IP: Surveillance: Candid camera for criminals
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Surveillance: Candid camera for criminals Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:09:13 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_191000/191692.stm Tuesday, October 13, 1998 Published at 18:48 GMT 19:48 UK UK Candid camera for criminals Three steps to criminal-spotting A revolutionary surveillance system that can pin-point known criminals as they walk along in a crowd is being put to the test in a London borough. The Mandrake face recognition system will seek out 'target faces' in the closed circuit television (CCTV) footage in the Newham area. Councillor Ian Corbett said the decision to go ahead with the £60,000 six-month trial was made in response to the concerns of local residents. "We've done surveys recently and 60% of the population said that crime prevention was the No 1 issue in the community," Mr Corbett said. But fears of innocent people being identified by mistake have lead civil liberties groups to condemn the system and call for it to be tightly regulated. Making a match Newham has a network of 140 street cameras as well as 11 mobile camera units. Images beamed into the council's security centre in East Ham will be compared with a database of target faces supplied by police. The system can isolate the targets from the crowds of people appearing on CCTV. When a match is made the computer highlights the target and sounds an alarm. An operator then checks the image and decides if it is necessary to contact the police. The police in the area see the system as a way of making CCTV more efficient. "The people who go onto the system will be convicted criminals," said Chief Superintendent David Armond. Depending on the success of the trial, other targets like paedophiles could also be scanned. The system could also be used to help track down missing persons. Advanced technology Mandrake is the first identification system to be able to work from moving pictures. It has been designed by Software Systems International which has been concentrating on identification systems for several years. Less advanced systems are already in operation, including one which compares pictures of criminals with individuals crossing the Mexican border. One state in the US is using a database of millions of pictures to check on people who may be entering into more than one marriage, and another state is checking for duplicate drivers' licence applications in the same way. "The ability to capture a moving face is quite a new innovation and makes a lot of difference to being able to work with things like CCTV," Software Systems marketing manager Pat Oldcorn said. However she acknowledges that the computer will not always strike a perfect match. "We do expect that we will get a little bit of difference in interpretation because sometimes it will pick up a face at a three-quarters angle. We will need to use the human element to check the authenticity of the picture," she said. Big brother concerns It is the risk of error that has the civil liberties group Liberty most concerned. "The accuracy of facial mapping is very limited," campaigns manager Liz Parratt said. "For example, you need only to look at a handful of photos of celebrities to see how different the same people can look in different photos." "The claim that those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear is rubbish. What the police call an 80% success rate is what we would call a one in five chance of a mistake." Ms Parratt said that even if the system did work, it would have to be carefully regulated to protect people's privacy. But Councillor Corbett said he was most concerned about the civil liberties of innocent people. A reduction in the crime rate in Newham over the next six months will persude the Labour-dominated council to continue with the system. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************

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IP: Fwd: 10/13/98 MSNBC Special Report on Chem/Bio Attack; Tonight
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IP: The Road to Biometric IDs: Identity Theft
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: The Road to Biometric IDs: Identity Theft Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:39:43 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: ABC http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/DailyNews/id_theft981006.html When Someone Else Becomes You - Identity Crisis Lost Privacy is Price of Information Revolution *** "You feel like [your credit rating] is a mark of integrity, and then you're treated like a criminal and the whole onus is on you to prove you didn't do it." - identity theft victim Amy DuBois *** Could someone morph into you? (ABCNEWS.com) By Jan M. Faust ABCNEWS.com Oct. 9 - Babies are targeted. So are ex-lovers, ex-roommates, ex-friends and ex-spouses. And oh yeah, strangers too. People who use the Internet are definitely at risk. And so are those who don't. When it comes to identity theft-the pilfering of someone's personal data to get a free ride on a clean record or bountiful credit-the scams are so wide-ranging that there can be no generalization about who will get hit and who won't. Although there are no definite numbers on the incidence of identity theft in the United States, it is believed to be on an explosive trajectory. Last year, Trans Union, one of the nation's three major credit bureaus, reported approximately 350,000 cases of identity fraud. And, the U.S. Secret Service, a wing of the Treasury Department that gets involved on the larger cases, arrested approximately 10,000 people for participating in organized identity theft rings. As the numbers keep mushrooming, so have costs-up from $442 million in 1995 to $745 million in 1997, says Assistant Deputy James Bauer of the Secret Service. "So there's been a significant increase in the losses that tell us they're doing it more and applying a certain level of expertise." Your Money and/or Your Life When your evil doppelgangers go for convertible sports cars, or chunky diamond necklaces, more than your credit rating can be damaged. "I can promise you the day you learn of it you are at least 18 months from being whole again, " says Bauer. "During which time you can't buy a car, get a loan, maybe you're turned down for a job, and you may not even know why. Amy DuBois knows this firsthand. The 34-year-old Boston surgeon was swindled in what seemed a simple purse filching from her locked desk at the hospital. She took immediate, and what she assumed was adequate, action by canceling her credit cards and checks. Once that might have been enough. But as Bauer points out, new safeguards in the credit industry, like real-time verification of credit cards, have forced thieves to get craftier. The end result is that now, "Pickpockets will steal your wallet, and I say this facetiously, but they'll give you back the cash, just to get the IDs," says Bauer. Instant Credit Can Be an Instant Headache Although DuBois never recovered her purse or the money in it, it was the identification that was the real commodity. "Nearly two years later," DuBois says, "I got a phone call at home from a collection agency about an overdue credit account of $3,500 from a jewelry store in Detroit. "And then they started coming-I got two more notices in the mail, and two by phone within the next couple of days." When she checked her credit report, she found that almost $30,000 dollars of jewelry, roaming cell phone charges, and department store items had been racked up in her name, from accounts made at department stores with instant credit, billed to addresses that weren't hers. "The instant credit folks, like the departments stores, they're not checking or verifying because they're so eager to have new customers, because it's so competitive," says Beth Givens of the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, whose consumer organization publishes help for victims. "I think the blame for a good bit of this epidemic lays at the feet of the credit industry." Will the Real Amy DuBois Stand Up? The fake Amy DuBois, it turned out, was a serious shopaholic. The real DuBois said that seeing her own credit report was "eerie" "Your student loans are there, your own Neiman-Marcus account, and then next to those are nine accounts that just aren't yours, marked delinquent." After 30 hours of her own time, four uninterrupted days of her secretary's time, and about $1,000 in lawyer's fees, DuBois is gradually starting to sort things out. That's typical, explains Ed Mierswinsky, a consumer advocate at the U.S. Public Interest Research Group. "The victims end up in a real mess. They sit on hold with the credit card companies, they sit on hold with the credit bureaus, they get on endless voice mail loops, the police don't care because the amount of money lost doesn't make their threshold for making major cases and getting promotions." For DuBois, what lingers now besides the voluminous paperwork needed to be filed whenever she legitimately needs to establish credit, is suspicion and mistrust about giving out her personal identifiers. Recently while trying to open an account at Blockbuster Video, she was asked for her driver's license and Social Security number. "I said, 'No, I'm not providing that. You don't need to have that.'" Although she eventually relented on the driver's license, she said she's much more protective of her Social Security number. Give Me Some Credit Here Guarding that precious number is one key to improving your odds, agree privacy rights advocates. Criminals will try to liberate it from you in a number of ways, as low-tech as sifting through your garbage can for records, and as high-tech as setting up application forms on Internet sites offering credit cards at the impossibly low, low rate of 1 percent APR. And since it's extremely difficult to eliminate risk, Givens suggests ordering your credit report at least once a year. "The key is to catch it early. We recommend just going to one of the three credit bureaus, and if you see signs of fraud, then order the other two." That would have helped DuBois, who's says she'll feel insecure and violated for the rest of her life. "It's a very strange sensation. I have a very good credit record, I've been very careful. You feel like it's a mark of integrity, and then you're treated like a criminal and the whole onus is on you to prove you didn't do it. The whole thing is very frightening." For all of her expense and troubles, DuBois' experience could have been worse. More damaging than run-of-the-mill credit theft are those cases where criminal records or vital statistics are affected, through marriage, divorce, an arrest, or even death under the cloned name. "I know of a case out West where a lady died using an assumed name," says Bauer, "and the true name holder had to get a death certificate undone." Recent Examples of Identity Theft In New York this week, the state attorney general warned of a scam being circulated through e-mail, faxes and fliers offering consumers a reimbursement of $500 from Gerber Baby foods as settlement in a phony class action. To apply, parents were asked to send copies of their child's birth certificate and Social Security card. Babies' Social Security numbers are plum because they allow for unflawed credit, and are rarely checked for fraud. John and Jane Smith's adult daughter obtained credit cards in their name and ran up debts of more than $40,000. She paid the interest fees so as not to alert her parents of her use of the credit cards, but was not able to keep up the payments. The credit card companies now demand the Smiths pay the bill, given that the debtor is their daughter. A thief stole Annette's wallet, and has since written bad checks in her name, and used her credit cards. Annette wonders if anyone pays attention to driver's license photos. The thief is white and Annette is African-American. To make matters worse, she has to pay $10 every time she needs a notarized affidavit stating she is not the crook. Meredith rented a room in her home to a woman who found her SSN. She collected the pre-approved offers of credit that were mailed to the house, filled them out in Meredith's name, and obtained 15 credit cards. She watched the mail and retrieved the monthly statements before Meredith saw them. She has since moved out, leaving Meredith with debts totaling $74,000. Francine was employed for a time as a writer for a publishing company. After she left, she found that her employer was using her SSN and driver's license number to obtain credit in her name. A police department detective investigating the case told Francine that the woman has a long history of identity theft spanning many states. Cheryl and her 7-year-old daughter went to the bank to open a checking account for the daughter. The bank told Cheryl her daughter had a bad credit report. Cheryl thinks that her ex-husband has been using the child's Social Security number to open credit accounts. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. 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IP: ISPI Clips 5.42: Poll Shows 75% of Canadians Worry About Internet privacy
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.42: Poll Shows 75% of Canadians Worry About Internet privacy Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:15:56 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.42: Poll Shows 75% of Canadians Worry About Internet privacy News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Wednesday October 14, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: The Toronto Sun, October 2, 1998 http://www.thestar.com 1 in 3 plan to buy online, poll reveals But Canadians still worry about privacy, security http://www.thestar.com/back_issues/ED19981002/news/981002NEW06_NA-POLL2.htm l By Valerie Lawton Toronto Star Ottawa Bureau OTTAWA - More than one in three Canadians expect to buy something over the Internet within the next couple of years, a poll suggests. ``That's a much higher figure than anything we've seen,'' said Frank Graves, president of Ekos Research Associates. ``We're talking about a pretty radical transformation of the marketplace, the world of commerce, in a very short period of time.'' The results of the Ekos survey are to be released today. Canadians also told the pollster they have a number of worries about buying online. About three-quarters of those asked said they would not be willing to give their credit card number over the Internet even if they were buying something from a well-known business. And Graves said the poll found people would be more willing to shop on the Internet if privacy and consumer protection measures were introduced. It's an important message for business and government, said Andrew Reddick of the Public Interest Advocacy Centre in Ottawa. ``They have to put consumers first if they want this to work,'' said Reddick, whose centre also worked on the E-commerce study. He's skeptical of the finding that one in three people plan to buy over the Internet soon. ``It may be wishful thinking. It may be showing a high level of interest,'' he said. ``A lot of people aren't on the Internet - 75 per cent roughly still aren't connected from the home.'' Some 7 per cent of Canadians said they had shopped on the Internet at some point during the three months before the poll was taken. Ekos has conducted three surveys on E-commerce over the last year or so. The most recent, a telephone survey in June, involved 2,200 interviews - a sampling that's said to be accurate within 2.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. In Ottawa yesterday, the federal government tabled legislation that includes measures to protect personal information. ``For electronic commerce to flourish, we need confidence in how our personal information is gathered, stored and used and clear rules for industry,'' said Industry Minister John Manley. The minister also announced yesterday that the government will take a hands-off approach to cryptography, a method which encodes data so that only individuals with the proper digital ``key'' are able to decipher it. 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IP: ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:12:32 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Wednesday October 14, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: CNET News.com, October 13, 1998 http://www.news.com New Guidelines on Child Privacy http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,27489,00.html?dd.ne.tx.fs2.1013 By Tim Clark and Courtney Macavinta Staff Writers, CNET News.com Industry group TRUSTe [ http://www.truste.org/ ] is creating a new child privacy program that it hopes will address issues raised by the Federal Trade Commission and the so-called Bryan bill now pending in Congress. The FTC has reviewed TRUSTe's child privacy guidelines, which generally bar Web sites from collecting personal information from children under 13 without verifiable parental permission. They also require child-oriented Web sites to state clearly and prominently what information is being collected and how it is shared. "We want to help these sites catering to kids implement the bill," said Susan Scott, TRUSTe executive director. "We have created a unique children's seals, and to get that seal, sites need to comply with all the FTC requirements to create and implement privacy statements." Authored by Sen. Richard Bryan (D-Nevada), the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act was tacked on to the Internet Tax Freedom Act. The provision requires parental consent before Internet sites can collect information online from children age 12 and under. TRUSTe backs the Bryan bill but is concerned that is currently tied to Internet censorship legislation. One major children's site, Yahooligans plans to post TRUSTe's new child privacy seal because it says its practices comply with TRUSTe's guidelines. TRUSTe is talking to another major children's site, Disney about joining the program too. "Our privacy practices are in compliance with keeping a safe environment on the Web," said Rob McHugh, senior producer for Yahooligans, which has updated its privacy statement but not changed its practices to obtain the children's privacy seal. Yahooligans collects first names, age, gender, and home state, but no individually identifiable information, such email or physical address. "The practices are in effect right now for any new applicants [for TRUSTe's logo] for sites directed at kids under 13," Scott said. TRUSTe hopes its guidelines will become a "safe harbor" for child-oriented sites. That means the FTC would accept a site's use of the TRUSTe child privacy mark as evidence the site is following the law, with TRUSTe essentially becoming an enforcement arm. The FTC still must promulgate regulations on child privacy, and TRUSTe expects to alter its guidelines based on the federal agency's final rules, which may not be completed for a year. Scott expects no major changes. The Bryan bill would be the first online privacy legislation to pass, giving the FTC authority it previously felt it didn't have to enforce privacy rules. Scott predicts that requiring parental permission before collecting personal data on children will reduce the amount of information sites request. "The cost of business has gone up because of the verification [that parents approve]," she said. "Sites will need to look at their business models to see if they need that personal information." Scott praised Bryan for taking industry concerns into account by altering the initial legislation, for example, to apply specifically to commercial sites--not nonprofits--and by limiting the parental permission requirement to children 12 years and under, not ages 13 to 19. The Net Tax Freedom Act is still in limbo today as Congress's session comes down to the wire. The Senate passed the three-year moratorium on new Net taxes, but if the House doesn't push it through as is then Congress will likely run out of time to pass the legislation. There is speculation, however, that the tax moratorium will be attached to omnibus spending legislation that could be passed by midnight tomorrow before both houses adjourn. If the bill is passed, the child privacy protections also will be ushered into law. But the Net tax bill also contains a controversial provision by Sen. Dan Coats (R-Indiana) that exempts commercial sites from the tax break if they give minors unfettered access to "harmful" material. Specifically, TRUSTe's Children's Seal Program requires that licensees not: *Collect information from a child under 13 without parental consent or direct parental notification of the nature and intended use of the data. Parents should be able to prevent use of the information. *Collect personally identifiable offline contact information from children under 13 without parental consent. *Distribute to third parties any personal data collected from a child under 13 without parental consent. *Allow children under 13 to publicly post or otherwise distribute personal information without parental consent. Sites must try to prohibit children from posting any contact information. *Use a games or prizes to entice a child under 13 to divulge more information than is needed. 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hey DIRNSA: can't talk to allies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY TITLE: COMSEC - Secure Voice Telephones LESSON LEARNED: NATO elements must learn to use the standard secure telephones. BACKGROUND: For future NATO-led operations, it must be stressed that the NATO secure telephone standard is the STU IIB. Augmenting forces must bring compatible equipment if it stays under national control. Must come to grips with the US and NATO secure telephones within the command. There are problems associated with US and NATO secure telephones: The STU III/STU IIIA has not been released to NATO, so they should be eliminated from the NATO comm system. The NATO standard is the STU IIIB, only the STU IIB is compatible with the STU IIIA. Cannot adhere to US security regulations for protecting US secure voice systems in an allied environment. RECOMMENDATION: Consider a letter to DIRNSA requesting relaxation of current US policy. http://call.army.mil/call/spc%5Fprod/5sigcd/2tact.htm

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RE: DNA (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: DNA > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:34:07 -0700 > > But what about identical sib's. They all > > have exactly the same DNA! Actualy identical twins will only share about 50% of their DNA. They get 50% from each parent randomly. This means that only about 25% of the DNA will match their sibling from either parent. > Or a clone ;). This of course ignores transcription errors, environment issues, etc. It is possible that even a clone would have protein discrepencies which trace back to DNA strands that end up different than the original source organism. As the organism develops and ages these issues can become quite important. This aspect of DNA matching has gotten the short shift for sure. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Two Jims, Werner and Matt redefine socialism for their own en ds
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >> something like Belloc and Chesterton's "distributivism". > > > Distribute what and created by whom? > > Every libertarian or cypherpunk ought to have read "The Servile State" > by Hilaire Belloc. ...and in that context what is being distributed is > *land*, as private property to be lived on, farmed and passed on to > children. If you believe there is a single valid concept in that whole populist/agrarian bullshit I can shoot it down, otherwise it is not worth my time. Matt

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Tim May Investigations
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Gary Burnore vs. Earth (Was: Value of Annon. Remailers)
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > > Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> wrote: > > > Let us know when you have an original thought. > > Ad hominem often comes in handy... You are too touchy to be on the Internet, leave now! ;-) > > > From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <sysadmin(a)mfn.org> > > > > > > Obviously, as defenders of this man's right to post material offensive > > > to Burnore, we too came under attack. > > > > One man's attack is another's defense. > > I'll have to remember that one. Some defense lawyers in Wyoming > might want to use it in their clients' trial for their "defense" > against that gay student. You are equating speech to physical violence. Not a good way to defend anonymizers. > Now about Gary Burnore's "defense" against the underaged daughter of > his girlfriend... Like, why should cypherpunks care? You said it's not causing you a connectivity problem. You are boring everyone for no known reason. > > > The point here is that what little survives about this lunatic child > > > molester (he has even successfully had his North Carolina Sex Offender record > > > removed!),... > > > > Gee, why don't you ask North Carolina why, in writing? > > Irrelevant. The North Carolina website of registered sex offenders > was only the vehicle by which the truth about Gary Burnore's > existing conviction in California became known. Depublishing it in > NC on some technicality... What technicality? > which sentenced him to probation and required him to register > as a sex offender. I wonder if Pee Wee Herman had to register. > Perhaps the original whistleblower's e-mailed warnings led > or contributed to Burnore's arrest, and to the resulting > psychiatric treatment which may have protected future > potential victims. Just a bunch of nutters flaming each other endlessly. ---guy

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Re: Use encryption to foil spooks' data harvesting, says US statedept
by Richard.Bragg＠ssa.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

and how about some innocuous words/phases that might cause apoplexy i talk to the pillow (PLO) every night i was there doing ... with ..., i wish. <insert name> was dead on his feet .... it goes on. I like the encryption bit. Season your conversations with encryption and they won't find the wood for the trees. Who actually needs encryption in this case. Everyone can just put the word encryption into every conversation every other sentence. Miles of recording tape, (bytes of memory, whatever) just stuffed with inane conversation with a few select phrases. leif(a)imho.net on 15/10/98 14:20:26 To: Richard Bragg/UK/SSA_EUROPE cc: Subject: Re: Use encryption to foil spooks' data harvesting, says US statedept GOOD that did not bounce... Over the last few days my imho mail bounced.. mostly from some DNS, and mail server problems since I made some changes... (at my office who is at this point my mail hub... hehe it is fun to be the SA) OK words or phrases that can be used. Death Kill Destroy ENCRYPTION President Vice President First Lady Bomb dead maim hate if used correctly missile ( I am sure it is in the list if used correctly ) Nerve gas lets see should I go on or do you have the idea.. Here is a hint... I was talking with a friend one day a computer geek himself and we mentioned the word encryption and started talking about said stuff... Well after that word was aid we here a clicking type noise in the background??? HUMMMMMMMMM we change the subject and after some time talking it goes away we say encryption and it came back.... HUMMMMMMMM Go figure. - lhe

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Art Bell
by Edwin E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is Art Bell related to Jim Bell? The following was sent via LibertyWire: Bell Tolls No More Wired News Report http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/15588.html http://www.artbell.com/artquits.html 2:25 p.m. 13.Oct.98.PDT Art Bell, the popular host of the late-night radio show "Coast To Coast AM" is turning off his microphone indefinitely. In Bell's Tuesday morning show he told listeners, "... a threatening terrible event tell you about. Because of that event, and a succession of other events, what you're listening to right now, is my final broadcast on the air."

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I saw the craziest thing last night...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wanted to share with you an experience perhaps worth contemplating... Around 8pm or so last nite I got hungry and the dogs looked at me with those big brown "Help me" eyes and off we trundle to the golden arches. I drive over the 5-6 blocks to N. Lamar and head north. It's about 2 miles or so max. As I get to Mickey Dee's I realize that there is a street bum in the road. There is S. bound traffic and he's about halfway across when I notice the cars are getting pretty close. Well about this time a vehicle with no lights (yet it's after dark) but yellow running lights (I believe that's illegal in this state) begins to continously sound its horn as it approaches the crosser. No apparent attempt to slow down or change lanes was made. The car ended up missing the guy by less than 3 ft. What was really a riot was it was an Austin Police car. Unfortunately I don't read well backward at night so I didn't get a vehicle id or a license so this qualifies as nothing more than another net rumor. It's pretty damn bad when the police resort to assault with a motor vehicle to control street people. Can the recent Supreme Court ruling allowing police to kill you in a high-speed chase as an innocent bystander to protect you from the perp with complete immunity be extended to pursuit of an unrepentant donut? When I was a kid it used to say "To Protect and Serve", not "To Protect or Kill". Isn't the point of a public servant to *serve* the people in a decent, respectful manner? If taken as a given then it's clear that public safety *always* takes precedence over 'catch the crook'. It's better to let the perp run through a neighborhood he's already going to go through and spend resources getting people into their homes and out of the way than it is to prove what a dairing-do bunch of local boys can do catching outlaws, but killing some of the local folks in the process. I appreciate the potential for hostages (even entire neighborhoods) but please explain how this ruling changes those instances in any way? Perhaps we need an amendment that provides a proviso on the rulings of the Supreme Court. Instead of these sorts of dicta having the weight of law, which it shouldn't have since it's not legislative, they should be required to be handed over to Congress for resolution via the normal law making process. This would limit the Supreme Court to interpretations of existing law (per the 9th & 10th Amendment). We definitely need an end to the post-Vietnam, post-Cold War testosterone rush we're living in now. Like it or not, the more initialy confrontational the government gets the more violence it will beget. And trying to justify those strategies by claiming a responce to a rise in violence only begs the question. Perhaps this realization is at least one reason that the equality of the federal level, state level, and individual civil rights has become so critical and so ignored. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Limited Impeachment Probes...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: and no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This would seem to indicate that the only issue a federal prosecutor needs to be interested in is proving *some* illegal act took place. Not what that act may have actualy been, though describing it may be required. Once that is resolved the other legal aspects fall to the attorney general or district attorney in the appropriate region. With that in mind, its pretty interesting at all the money and effort that's been spent on nothing that is materialy relevant to the issue at hand. Though it is interesting that the issue of profit (running a business?) comes up in the consequences. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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LUGGAGE, GARMENT BAGS, BREIFCASES, ETC.
by sendus＠earthcorp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: DNA (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monozygotic [maternal] twins do have the same DNA. Hence they are identical. Genetically identical that is, there are non-genetic variations. Dizygotic [fraternal] twins do not. Fraternal twins can be visually nearly identical, but they are not genetically identical. Clones on the otherhand and have identical nuclear DNA, but are not necessarily identical because some early development processes rely on maternal genome material and not nuclear DNA, and depending on the cloning process they may have different mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Choate [mailto:ravage@einstein.ssz.com] > > > But what about identical sib's. They all > > > have exactly the same DNA! > > Actualy identical twins will only share about 50% of their > DNA. They get 50% from each parent randomly. This means > that only about 25% of the DNA will match their sibling > from either parent. > > > Or a clone ;). > > This of course ignores transcription errors, environment > issues, etc. It is possible that even a clone would > have protein discrepencies which trace back to DNA strands > that end up different than the original source organism. As > the organism develops and ages these issues can become quite > important. This aspect of DNA matching has gotten the short > shift for sure.

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RE: DNA (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: DNA (fwd) > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:04:32 -0700 > Monozygotic [maternal] twins do have the same DNA. Hence they are > identical. In my earlier post I got the naming on the type of twin incorrect, it shouldn't have been identical. I was trying to explain that aspect in the second paragraph. My mistake. > Clones on the otherhand and have identical nuclear DNA, but are not > necessarily identical because some early development processes rely on > maternal genome material and not nuclear DNA, and depending on the > cloning process they may have different mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). I assume the mitochondrial differences are due to nucleus swapping, different line of extra-nuclear heritage? ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: Strom Thurmond Drafts Bill Prohibiting Telegraph Porn
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Strom Thurmond Drafts Bill Prohibiting Telegraph Porn http://www.theonion.com/onion3408/telegraphporn.html Strom Thurmond Drafts Bill Prohibiting Telegraph Porn WASHINGTON, DC--Contending that morse-coded descriptions of improperly petticoated young ladies are undermining the morals of American boys yet in short pants, U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) proposed legislation Monday banning telegraph porn. "My friends, this revolutionary new 'Tele-graph' technology, by which messages are transmitted across vast distances via cable wire, is indeed a wondrous device," Thurmond told fellow members of the Senate. "But certain telegraphers--most corrupt and foul telegraphy men indeed--have debased Mr. Morse's code by using its ingenious dots and dashes to transmit porno-graphs describing flagrantly uncorseted womenfolk. I submit to you, gentlemen, that laws be passed to prevent the tele-graph device from becoming a machine of ill repute!" Thurmond's proposed legislation would establish stiff penalties for the transmission of certain obscene words and phrases along Western Union's telegram and telegraph wires, including "merry-widow," "bosom," and "underthings," as well as prohibit the use of the word "legs" instead of "limbs" when referring to the female anatomy. In certain contexts, the words"disheveled" and "heaving" would also be regarded as violations of the law, with perpetrators subject to fines of $50 or seven years hard labor on the proposed trans-American steam railroad. "As our nation recovers from the depredations and ruin of the recent War Of Northern Aggression, we must not permit the tele-graph to become the Devil's instrument," said Thurmond, 95. "Mr. Morse's messaging device must not be allowed to corrupt the hearts and minds of the Republic's youths!" [...more...]

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More Mickyshit via WebTV
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Forward from the SpyKing Mailing List. **************************************************************** Subject: Web TV owns your cache http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/zd/zd7.htm 10/12/98- WebTV is watching you From: Inter@ctive Week Online Microsoft Corp.'s WebTV Networks Inc. is quietly using a system-polling feature that can extrapolate subscriber information from each of its 450,000 users to better serve advertisers, said Steve Perlman, president of WebTV. The polling, which takes place nightly, uploads television and Web site viewing habits back to the system. The data makes it possible for WebTV to scrutinize not only what subscribers are watching, but also what they are clicking on or surfing away from, Perlman said. The polling results are offered to advertisers in an aggregate format; however, because results are grouped by ZIP code and contain demographic data compiled from WebTV viewers' polls, it can help them target ads more effectively. "We have a whole department that does nothing but look at the information. If someone is watching a car ad and clicks through, we can send them to the closest car dealership Web site," Perlman said. "The balance is providing advertisers with useful information while still protecting the subscribers." WebTV already protects its subscribers from Internet cookies - -- markers that track what sites people visit on the Web. "I don't think people understand the extent of this. It's recording everything they do. This is like having a video camera on them 24 hours a day," said Tom Rheinlander, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc. The polling will take a giant step into the realm of cable TV in 1999. Tele-Communications Inc. and other cable operators are expected to deploy more than 5 million set-top boxes that will ship with Windows CE and the Solo chip, bringing WebTV to cable. Today, WebTV informs its subscribers about the polling. Next year, Perlman said, customers will have the option of turning individual tracking on and off at will. This will allow advertisers to send ads to single households, not just ZIP codes. Sean Kaldor, vice president of International Data Corp.'s Consumer Device Research, said this could translate into greater ad revenue for Microsoft. "But it could also work out well for subscribers. They may get lower or free subscriptions for enabling this level of tracking," Kaldor said. "Is it going to happen? I doubt it, but it's a nice thought." By Karen J. Bannan **************************************************************** - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 5.0 at: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNiW0Lo9Co1n+aLhhAQEx6AP+IRmscdFFOxXJBi31Xjp6r/EJJHPsv2uq yaXc+s+30yElGUFh056wr8MPJndwz76zG5ZfsDQmEG4ok9w0zT/2xeC7kve6FX4t RImLpTQxpK9R6voxIhlmXk2nCy8IcrZ74zY16ckdKopmobTT7d9Ry6pgohXAyS75 fbRhHuixtUI= =dZbh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Use encryption to foil spooks' data harvesting, says US state dept
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://ds.state.gov/documents/protect.doc ·Most international U.S. corporate telecommunications are not encrypted. Some countries do not allow encryption of telecommuni-cations traffic within their borders, but it should be considered where feasible for any transmission of competitive information. ·Many telecommunications transmissions will contain "key words", used to identify information of interest to a third party. A key word can be the name of a technology, product, project, or anything else which may identify the subject of the transmission. · Encryption should be the first line of defense since it is easier for foreign intelligence services to monitor lines than to place "bugs", however encryption will provide little if any security if a careful examination for audio "bugs" elsewhere in the room is not conducted.

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