December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Platt <cp(a)panix.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Cc: Charles Platt <cp(a)panix.com> Subject: Re: FC: Responses to Tim May's criticism of SAFE, and a rebuttal > From: Jonah Seiger <jseiger(a)cdt.org> > However, despite our concerns about the criminal provisions, we believe > strongly that the SAFE bill, and the bills in the Senate sponsored by Burns > and Leahy, are vitally important and should be passed. This kind of "pragmatism" is precisely why I have no faith whatsoever in CDT. There's a slippery slope, here, that really IS a slippery slope. As soon as you agree with the principle that the legislators can and SHOULD pass laws in a certain area, you risk losing large chunks of freedom. Conversely, so long as the area remains sacrosanct, free of legislation (e.g. the content of private mail), the situation remains clear and clean. Once you have one law, naturally some special-interest group will complain, some lobbyists will have their own ideas, some other legislators will see an opportunity to extend/clarify/amend/expand the legislation, and before you know it, you've got the war on drugs or something similar, costing billions, depriving relatively innocent people of their liberty, and achieving nothing. I absolutely agree with Tim May. There is no excuse for introducing legislation to control something fundamentally harmless that is not currently controlled. More legislation is absolutely the LAST thing this country needs. > Congress needs to stand up to the Administration and say, with a strong > voice, "your policy is a failure - we need a different solution". That's > what SAFE, Pro-CODE, and ECPA II do. For some reason I have difficulty trusting Congress to protect my rights in this matter, or in any other matter. Those who seek help from government should recall Barry Goldwater's famous quote, which went something like this: "When you have a government big enough to give you everything you want, it's big enough to take it all away."

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Re: AP --> AR
by Casey Iverson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:02 PM 5/6/97 EDT, you wrote: >nobody(a)huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) writes: > >> >> Tim May verily saith [paraphrase]: >> >> > I would cry few tears if D.C. got nuked >> >> This will be an historical event of importance comparable to the >> American Revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall. > >I'm all for it! > Me too. Especially if the collateral damage reached Forest Hills and the degenerate Russian scumbag Vulis.

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Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:24:57 +0200 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Wendy Leibowitz <wendyl(a)LJEXTRA.COM> Subject: Spam Update/Cyber Promo attacked To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM While aware of the irony of sending an unsolicited message from Cyber Promotions to a large group of people, this bulletin just arrived from our friends at Cyber: PHILADELPHIA, 5-7-97 Bulk e-mail giant Cyber Promotions is under attack by "anti-spam" hackers. This concentrated attack was planned for several weeks, and has been publicly discussed on Internet newsgroups. The hackers are using a brand new method to deny service to all Cyber Promotions' computers hooked to a main router on an AGIS line. The hackers have devised a system which sends millions of random "arp" requests to a router, which can disable the whole network for hours. This type of attack has never occurred before. Currently thousands of businesses with web pages and mail box accounts are being denied service. The attack began yesterday around 4 PM Eastern, and is still occurring at press time. But the [source of the] attack is traceable with the help of a backbone provider and computer security specialists. The longer it occurs, the easier it is to trace it back to the hacker. Cyber Promotions will work in conjunction with federal authorities to prosecute the criminals. ....... This latest attack is occurring, by no coincidence, on the same day that Cyber Promotions, AGIS and several bulk e-mailers scheduled a press conference in Las Vegas to discuss the formation of a new association which will enforce a universal "don not send" list along with many other ethical bulk e-mail standards. ........... It goes on, but I need to ponder the meaning of "ethical bulk e-mail standards." Wendy R. Leibowitz, Technology Editor National Law Journal 345 Park Ave. South New York, NY 10010 E-mail: wendyl(a)ljextra.com "Remember, even pencils break." --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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The Microsoft Provocateur
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New Yorker of May 12 has a long profile by Ken Auletta on Myhrvold, "The Microsoft Provocateur": "For a decade, Nathan Myhrvold, Bill Gate's corporate gadfly, has been writing copious, bombastic, brilliant, and confidential memos for his boss. To read them is to understand a lot about Microsoft -- and the future." ----- http://jya.com/myhrvold.htm (56K)

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US Citizens doing crypto work overseas
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have any idea how extensive the legal entaglements might be for a US Citizen to accept work overseas developing crypto software for a foreign company? Someone at a company in Australia is interested in hiring some crypto-clued folks, and has asked me if it's even worth pursuing any US citizens. advTHANKSance -- Matt Curtin Chief Scientist Megasoft Online cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself Death to small keys. Crack DES NOW! http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm

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Hackers! <ooh, do it again> Hackers!
by Rick Osborne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"the Net" Magazine, #6 for June 97 page 96, has a blurb entitled "NetSurfer Archetypes: Seven Frightening Case Studies", one of which is of course "The Hacker". It says: The Hacker alias: :parasite: modus operandi: Breaks into Procter & Gamble's main database, and inserts a script that sends a free home pregnancy test to every man, woman, and child in North America. identifying marks: Pacific Bell lineman's uniform ("Hank from the Central Office sent me. You fellas got the security keys we requested?) favorite Web site: 25 Real-Life MacGuyvers philosophy of life: "43NytRoPH" _________ o s b o r n e @ g a t e w a y . g r u m m a n . c o m _________ DOS Tip #17: Add DEVICE=FNGRCROS.SYS to CONFIG.SYS

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Paper on IBM's New Crypto
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For the paper describing IBM's new public key algorithm by Miklos Ajtai and Cynthia Dwork of IBM's Almaden Research Center in San Jose, California: ftp://ftp.eccc.uni-trier.de/pub/eccc/reports/1996/TR96-065/index.html IBM's press release on it: http://jya.com/ibmkey.htm

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PGP
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C[retin] Mayflower styles his facial hair to look more like pubic hair. ,,, -ooO(o o)Ooo- Tim C[retin] Mayflower (_)

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Don't Wait Act Now
by COMPUTER.SOLUTIONS＠SWBELL.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED,STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER ------------------------------------------------- REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Computer Solutions PO Box 520851 Independence,Mo 64052 ------------------------------------------------- REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Aaron Gross 5631 e 40 hwy lot #51 Kansas City, Mo 64128 ------------------------------------------------- REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Richard Gross Jr 3308 S Emery Independence, Mo 64055 ------------------------------------------------- REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM LaChance Information System PO BOX 308 Placida,FL 33946-0308 ------------------------------------------------- CONCLUSION .I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too,will be making money in 20 to 90 days,if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before.Go into business,get into investments, retire or take a vacation.No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However,very few people reach financial independence,because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it.It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you must answer.Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and information reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that costs me pennies to produce and email.I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters,asking you to send money, on faith , but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain letters illegal,but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people.After they purchase the product from you,they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material the PRODUCT is a series of four FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding,but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORT,which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program.The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost off about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and good luck! "IT WAS TRULY AMAZING" "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this program. But conservative as I am,I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was no way that I could not get enough orders to at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever surprised when I found my medium sized post office box crammed with orders! I will make more money this year than any ten years of my life before." Mary Riceland,Lansing,MI TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws.Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. NAME YOUR NEW COMPANY.YOU CAN USE YOUR OWN NAME IF YOU DESIRE. 2. GET A POST OFFICE BOX (PREFERRED) 3. EDIT THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES ON THE PROGRAM.YOU MUST REMEMBER, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS GO NEXT TO REPORT#1 AND THE OTHERS ALL MOVE DOWN ONE,WITH THE FOURTH ONE BEING BUMPED OFF THE LIST. 4. OBTAIN AS MANY EMAIL ADDRESSES AS POSSIBLE TO SEND UNTIL YOU RECEIVE THE INFORMATION ON MAILING LIST COMPANIES IN REPORT #3 5. DECIDE ON THE NUMBER OF PROGRAM YOU INTEND TO SEND OUT.THE MORE YOU SEND,AND THE QUICKER YOU SEND THEM,THE MORE MONEY YOY WILL MAKE 6. AFTER MAILING THE PROGRAMS,GET READY TO FILL THE ORDERS 7. COPY THE FOUR REPORTS SO YOU ARE ABLE TO SENT THEM OUT AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE AN ORDER.IMPORTANT:ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! 8. MAKE CERTAIN THE LETTER AND REPORTS ARE NEAT AND LEGIBLE. YOUR GUARANTEE The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this:you must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. Ths is a must!!! If you don't within two weeks, email out more programs until you do.Then a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2,if you don't,send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2,(take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, because YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000.Mathematically it is a proven guarantee . Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above GUARANTEES-ALL have reached their $50,000 goal.Also remember, every time you name is moved down the list you are in front of a different REPORT,so you can keep of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you.IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!!

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HOW TO TURN THE WORLD WIDE WEB INTO A MONEY MACHINE
by noem＠internet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: "Show me an example o
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting In:shamrock@netcom.com to Harka <=- In> The recent issue of Radikal, the publication that caused xs4all to be In> blocked by the German government, contains an article on using PGP to In> secure the internal communications of the German leftist group issuing In> the publication. Radikal also contains an article on sabotaging the In> German rail system. The latter, sabotaging the railway, is actually the thing, they're going off about. That is information considered illegal, since it advocates violence and criminal acts. One of the leaders of the Party for Democratic Socialism, Angela Marquardt, was indicted under the same background for putting a link on her homepage to http://www.xs4all/~radikal/. The argumentation of the proscecutors was, that she personally by putting a link to that magazin (article) was promoting such violent acts. Ciao Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE ...more info at */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! -> http://www.epic.org */ /* E-mail: harka(at)nycmetro.com (PGP-encrypted mail pref'd) */ /* PGP public key available upon request. [KeyID: 04174301] */ /* F-print: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ ... The Internet recognizes censorship as damage...and routes around it. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBM1aSSjltEBIEF0MBAQGR+gf/RW6ACw2ULNQhjT+0kUw2A2EEvD+/s1UJ igVK63VyUdpRiCxKBmAcrbNtDZQ4mxruFsIvVNOG8MtRJT2h3sdCDdk1A6ez4008 Vx+ZL76lrf/x7ESN0/GXw7oAiUY55+sigKgc5mm09JZAb2gXugQ+tCPi6VTNXWcH 0zwEAENDxFj++rgdJ8/yJEOHw67/IP9J+fPo9/3pEk8GEY7awh90JblV17ec5h/a Og2iHG1ocZ2p6RH57AHqHHxPvdUcyidXIXBYOQncxj+8GXNkL+Mdjx/MYbrlAuPp fSJMVySMTglghcj4Svrw3z63L/cbkQxZu5iCPsxtA0vkaPG8OdqsZg== =WLao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Germany in the News
by Alec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: The Economist <null(a)postbox.co.uk> Subject: Politics This Week (April 11th - April 17th 1997) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 20:09:01 +0100 [snip] Iranians demonstrated against a German court's verdict that found their leaders guilty of ordering the murder of Kurdish dissidents. Some 3,000 veterans of the war with Iraq, disabled by chemical gas, called for justice against German firms that sold it to Iraq. [snip] ************************************************************************* This is a free newsletter published by The Economist newspaper. To find out where best to direct queries to The Economist, send a blank e-mail message to help(a)economist.com To cancel your subscription, send an e-mail with the message "leave economist-politics" to newscaster(a)postbox.co.uk To start receiving Politics This Week, send an e-mail with the message "join economist-politics" to newscaster(a)postbox.co.uk Alternatively, you can cancel your subscription (or subscribe at any time)by visiting http://www.economist.com/mailing/

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A new system for anonymity on the web
by Avi Rubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We are developing a new system called "Crowds" for achieving anonymity on the web. A preliminary description of the system can be found on our web pages. Any comments/criticisms are welcomed and appreciated. Mike Reiter (http://www.research.att.com/~reiter/) Avi Rubin (http://www.research.att.com/~rubin/)

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InterNet Free Terra
by InterNet Free Terra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Meet-in-the-middle attack
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim Maya studied yoga back-streching exercises for five years so he could blow himself (nobody else will). /\ __/__\__ | 00 | Tim Maya |: \ :| | \_/| \__/

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Re: Meet-in-the-middle attack
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Toto Homo studied yoga back-streching exercises for five years so he could blow himself (nobody else will). /\ __/__\__ | 00 | Tot[hom]o |: \ :| | \_/| \__/

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Plain Text / InterNet Free Terra
by InterNet Free Terra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

InterNet Free Terra Beyond the ElectroMagnetic Curtain "The Internet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it" John Gilmore Freedom Mirrors of Censored Sites InterNet Free Europe Radikal InterNet Free China Famous Blocked Websites (Proxy Server) "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." Timothy C. May ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Provide Information About Mirrors Of Other Censored Sites carljohn(a)sk.sympatico.ca The Final Frontier http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/carljohn/

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Re: Son of Flubber
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. May wrote: > At 3:51 AM -0800 4/17/97, TruthBomber wrote: > > Of course, the government isn't nervous about the loyalty of > >their own military personnel. That certainly couldn't have > >anything to do with them clamping down so hard on the release > >of details of the trial. > > Or why NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) and Falcon AFB, > both also in Colorado, have been placed on special alert. Military flights > near both sites have been sharply limited, and visitors are being screened > with more attention. > > Avoid soft targets on April 19th, Saturday. Capt. Button's A-10 changed course for an approach toward Vail/Denver and then turned around briefly, before resuming its approach pattern. While this raises the scary prospect that his warplane was intercepted and had to take evasive action, thereafter being shot down, what about an equally scary scenario: Perhaps he turned around in order to adjust his *landing* approach. If I was NORAD, I'd be checking the local bars and construction companies around Vail, trying to find out if anyone has built any unusually large parking garages next to an open field. It's an open secret that McVeigh timed the bombing to coincide with the execution of a fellow militant from the Elohim City cabal. Who says mad bombers aren't sentimental? Perhaps the missing warplane will surface on April 19, dropping bombs on Denver, and trailing a banner reading, "Happy Anniversary." TruthBomber

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Re: "Get out of Denver"
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. May wrote: > > > It's an open secret that McVeigh timed the bombing to coincide > >with the execution of a fellow militant from the Elohim City > >cabal. Who says mad bombers aren't sentimental? > > There are _several_ anniversaries that day. I dispute your notion that you > know which of them was the bombers' main motivation. Here are some of the > main anniversaries; > * Waco roast (and McVeigh has written much about Waco, and was there for > the first anniversary, in '94) > * the execution you mentioned> > * a major raid in Arkansas 10 years earlier > * the battle of Lexington, in which the British attempted to disarm a > civilian militia You are certainly correct about McVeigh's main focus of discontent being the Great Texas Barbecue in Wacko, but his choice of targets was the same one Richard Snell had targeted. As MediaFilter reported: The March edition of Taking Aim, the newsletter of the Militia of Montana, issued a call to arms for April 19, the day of the Oklahoma blast: "If this day does not ring a bell for you then maybe this will jog your memory. 1. April 19, 1775: Lexington burned. 2. April 19, 1943: Warsaw burned. 3. April 19, 1992: The feds attempted to raid Randy Weaver... 4. April 19, 1993: The Branch Davidians burned. 5. April 19, 1995: Richard Snell will be executed_unless we act now!!!" Federal prosecutors in (Richard Snell's) the '88 trial claimed that the '83 plot_which included counterfeiting, armed robberies and plans to assassinate federal judges and the Arkansas FBI chief_was to begin with the detonation of a truck bomb at the Oklahoma City Federal Building. All of the defendants were acquitted. But that very same building would be blown up by a truck bomb on the very day of Richard Snell's execution. Snell died knowing of the explosion. His last words were a warning to Arkansas Governor Guy Tucker: "Look over your shoulder, justice is on the way..." The Feds are well aware of the significance of launching their offensives against the militia on certain dates, sending deliberate messages to them by doing so, and the setting of Snell's execution date for April 19 was no coincidence. When the Feds pre-date search warrants and other documents (proclaiming to judges that it is needed to protect informants and sources), they often use signifigant dates and times, like the 9:02 of the OKC bombing (as in Jim Bell's search warrant). If you draw a chart co-relating the militia's actions with the Fed's actions, you get a picture somewhat similar to the truces in the Civil War, among others, where the soldiers would come out of the trenches to exchange goods and pleasantries, before digging in once again to resume their warring. Perhaps after the trial is over (if it gets that far), we will see a TV ad where the Feds and the militia get together in a bar afterward, and a theme of, "Now comes Miller time." > (And Hitler's birthday is the next day.) Adolf Hilter's birthday is annually celebrated with a barbecue by David Duke and friends. (No wonder the Feds burned Waco on the 19th. They had another barbeque to attend the following day.) And how does all of this relate to cryptography? Glad you asked. MediaFilter continues: However, in 1995, the Clinton administration is conveniently using the Militia to justify beefing up the federal police state apparatus. Also watch out for the pending Communications Decency Act and Orwellian_named Electronic Communications Privacy Act, which would make censorship and surveillance the rule in cyberspace. Perhaps at an upcoming cypherpunks physical meeting the milita could be invited and the theme could be "Trading Guns for Crypto." (It would have to be arranged quietly, however, so as not to draw too much attention. Perhaps if the arrangements were limited to discussion only on the cypherpunks list...) TruthBomber

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Re: Son of Flubber
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote: > At 02:50 PM 4/17/97 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote: > >I note that on the network news this morning an AF spokesman very > >painstakingly assured his questioner that there was absolutely no > >evidence of any kind that the missing pilot had any connection > >whatsoever with any militia groups. > > Neither did Tim McVeigh. He went to a militia meeting once. They told him > to get lost and never come back. In fact, the only common thread amongst > the Oklahoma City bombing suspects seems to be their (past?) service in the > US military. Come to think of it, that's one thing they have in common with > the missing bomber pilot. >From MediaFilter: In October 1992, two months after the Weaver surrender, Pete Peters, a Christian Identity minister in Colorado, called a meeting of some 175 radical right leaders. Among those in attendance were Aryan Nations ambassador Louis Beam and his lawyer, Kirk Lyons of North Carolina. Also in attendance was former Virginia legislator and Gun Owners of America leader Larry Pratt, who advocated "armed militia units" like those in Central America. Beam presented a paper to the meeting called "Leaderless Resistance", which called for small autonomous cells united by ideology but acting independently. This became the model for the Militia movement_and perhaps for Timothy McVeigh and his co_conspirators. Perhaps the great outcrys of "Timothy who?" that came from many parts of the militia were similar to the similar cries of "Jim who?" after Jim Bell's troubles. TruthWho?

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Re: [rant] Re: Any info on the "Victim's Rights" Constitutional amendment?
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Greg Broiles, whose rants seem to be more informative and entertaining than his legal opinions, and who could be the Johnny Cochrane of the McVeigh trial, wrote: > At 09:22 PM 4/17/97 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: > >Yesterday i saw a report on one of the news websites about Clinton pushing > >for some sort of Victim's Rights Constitutional amendment. > > > >Does anyone have any additional details on this? > > Sens. Feinstein and Kyl are co-sponsoring this amendment. To become part of > the Constitution, it must be approved by a 2/3 majority in both the House and > the Senate, then be ratified by 38 state legislatures. According to Kyl's web > page, this is the text of the proposed amendment: > > Section 1. To ensure that the victim is treated with fairness, dignity, and > respect, from the occurrence of a crime of violence and other crimes as may > be defined by law pursuant to section two of this article, and throughout the > criminal, military, and juvenile justice processes, as a matter of > fundamental rights to liberty, justice, and due process, the victim shall > have the following rights: to be informed of and given the opportunity to be > present at every proceeding in which those rights are extended to the accused > or convicted offender; to be heard at any proceeding involving sentencing, > including the right to object to a previously negotiated plea, or a release > from custody; to be informed of any release or escape; and to a speedy trial, > a final conclusion free from unreasonable delay, full restitution from the > convicted offender, reasonable measures to protect the victim from violence > or intimidation by the accused or convicted offender, and notice of the > victim's rights. We've already got this in Canada. Now the focus has shifted even further against the accused, with great outcry about the fact that the accused are causing great emotional grief to the victims and their families by being so bold as to try to defend themselves from the often irrational assaults on the accused and/or convicted. There is talk of further legislation which would effectively make all perceived victims angelic creatures and all perceived criminals violent, drug-dealing, commie-pinko perverts with no right to defend themselves. (And this is just on the jaywalking charges. Any more serious offences will increase the imbalance of judical powers to suppress the defence.) > (The rights of defendants > pretrial aren't what you'd expect if you've been to a public high school and > have heard the nice stories about "innocent until proven guilty". Accused > persons in criminal cases face serious restrictions on their liberty before > they're even formally charged; these changes are not new. > > The amendment will also likely result in less accurate trials and less > preparation on the part of defense counsel, because it gives the "victim" a > right to a speedy trial. This is bad for defendants, because it denies them > meaningful due process, and it's bad for victims who want "closure" because > it's likely to result in retrials when the due process was so crappy that the > trial didn't meet even the relatively lax standards of the Rehnquist court. > But, hey, it sounds good on TV. It shouldn't be long before "True Stories of the Highway Patrol" is immediately followed by C-Span legislative sessions enacting new legislation to deal with the perpetrators just apprehended, with "Night Court" immediately following, wherein the defendants are judged and sentenced. > We (as a society) need to decide if we want criminal trials to be about > trying to decide (beyond a reasonable doubt) whether or not someone's guilty > of a crime, or if we want them to be satisfying emotional soap-opera-style > theatrical pieces. This victims' rights crap (and the recent legislation > passed, *specifically intended to overrule the decisions of the judge > presiding over the Oklahoma City bombing trial*, as well as recent changes to > the California Evidence Code making it easier to admit evidence about prior > bad acts by defendants and otherwise inadmissible hearsay by "victims") does > a good job of moving us closer to the latter, but if that's what we want I > don't see why we don't just abandon trials entirely and simply torture people > who look like they're probably criminals until they die or confess. (and then > we kill them; after all, they confessed.) You mean like they do in Texas? > I think it's very, very bad to get so excited about punishing someone in an > emotionally or symbolically attractive fashion that we screw up trials, which > are intended to ensure that innocent people don't get punished. If we make it > difficult or impossible to get a fair trial, the only thing standing between > any of us and prison (or worse) is dumb luck and our ability/willingness to > remain in the good graces of the current powers that be. A good point, but your putting it in a future tense indicates that you don't get out enough. (Which is not a criticism, since I'm staying in a lot more, myself, these days. I'm afraid of getting shot by a cop while running from a criminal, or vice-versa.) -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Re: Missing Jet [update]
by Alec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Subject: Re: Missing Jet >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 09:33:05 -0400 >x-sender: jordan1(a)macandco.com >From: Jordan <jordan(a)macandco.com> >To: "Alec" <camcc(a)abraxis.com> Update: http://cnn.com/US/9704/17/missing.warplane/index.html jmcc

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maps
by tbs＠netgo.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Firewalls
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

When Timothy C. May's mother gave birth to him after fucking with a bunch of sailors, she didn't know who the father was but decided to tell him that he was a Russian as the Russian sailor was the one who satisfied her the most. \\/// |O O| Timothy C. May | ( | |_@_| H

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Re: SSL weakness affecting links from pa
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As the person who invented (and mispelt) the referer link I don't agree with the arguments made against it. The purpose of the referer link is to allow servers to collate pages of backlinks. This would make the Web browsable in both directions. I could never understand why Netscape supported the facility in the browser without also supporting the capture functionality in the server. Its a simple matter to add support but they seem uninterested. Of course there should be a toggle to allow users to turn off the referer field. I tried to get a recomendation to do this put into the spec. People then started shouting at me saying that it was impossible to enforce and so the recomendation shouldn't be there. Quite what the relevance of 'encforcement' is I don't know. Then they started jamming stupid ideas like cookies into the spec, ideas that showed all of five minutes thought. >Which was my original point. I'd even be willing to *pay* for a cert, but >not more than about $15. I just find it odd that I can get SSL server >software for cheaper than I can get a license to operate said software. >Hey Verisign, why don't you offer a Class 1 server certificate? The manner in which SSL is designed means that it requires a degree of trust in the certificate. Allowing the browser to automatically accept a class 1 cert would be somewhat foolhardy. Because someone put that damn key on the bottom of the browser some people expect there to be security. Instead they get encryption which ain'tquite the same thing. There is nothing to stop you using a non standard cert with SSL however. I use Apache with a cert I wrote myself. Phill

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