December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: (fwd) Re: XS4ALL censored pages (fwd)
by root 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:03:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Felipe Rodriquez <felipe(a)xs4all.nl> To: Alex de Joode <usura(a)replay.com> Cc: root(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: XS4ALL censored pages (fwd) Hi, Plz forward this to the cypherpunk list: > As we guessed XS4ALL don`t even have the guts to send us a copy of the > pages they censored. Check this out... > > > >>Postmaster, > >> > >>Please send me a copy of your current pricing for web space. > >>Also, please send me a copy of the marajuana pages you recently removed > >>from your web server. > > > >Hearby you recieve information about all services from xs4all. > > > >We don't know anything about marajuana pages so we can't send you a copy of > >that. The simple reason that a copy cannot be sent is that we have no such copy. The Dutch police have asked us to remove these pages, because they where being used to sell and distribute marihuana, hashish and XTC. These drugs had been distributed to countries like France, England and Japan. Through Interpol these countries had requested the dutch police to take action against these pages. If Xs4all would not have removed the pages we'd have been target of a criminal investigation. Kind regards, Felipe Rodriquez

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May 10th San Francisco area Cypherpunks Meeting Announcement
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What: San Francisco Bay Area Cypherpunks Monthly Phyical Meeting When: Saturday May 10th, 12 noon Where: PGP World Headquarters, San Mateo, California Bayview Federal Building, second floor conference room 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo, California South of the intersection of Highway 92 and El Camino Real http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head See attached detailed directions below. Possible Agenda: Political situation update for GDR, Brittan, USA, somone? Crypto at the 38th IETF Meeting report, Hugh Daniel Hidden USSA Citizen Unit ID & Reporting law PASSED US Congress! P/MIME & PGP beta testing update, Dave del Torto Hot topics of the day, what ever you need to talk about. Future Meetings Dave's Directions to PGP's HQ in San Mateo (fossil fuel version). .................................. MACRO ................................... + From the North Bay: - Hwy 101 South (use right lanes after passing SFO) - EXIT Fwy 92 West (move to center lane immediately after ramp)... or - 280 South (take Hwy 92 East toward the Bay)... + From the South Bay: - 101 North - EXIT Fwy 92 West (toward Half Moon Bay)... or - 280 North - EXIT Hwy 92 East (toward the Bay)... + From the East Bay: - San Mateo Bridge (Hwy 92 West) - GO past Hwy 101... + From Hale-Bopp: - LEFT turn at Beta Pictoris. - LOCATE greenish-blue planet third out from star w/9-10 planets in orbit. (High radiation readings make it obvious.) - PROCEED to Northern hemisphere. - FIND the largest body of water. (Travel in the direction of the planet's rotation until you reach the longest coastline running between the polar ice-caps.) - FOLLOW the biggest N-S seismic fault. - RIGHT turn at the large reddish suspension bridge. - SOUTH along coast to large reservoir at intersection of Hwy 280 and 92. - WEST on Hwy 92... .................................. MICRO ................................... + Once you're on Hwy 92 (from either 280 or 101) - EXIT at SOUTH El Camino Real (From 101 it's about a mile, the 2nd of two El Camino exits) (From 280 it's about 7 miles, after you've come down a steep grade, levelled out and passed under an overpass) - Curve around and down under freeway: you're now travelling south on El Camino Real. - Get in the LEFT lane *immediately*. (Directly in front of you, you can see the Bayview highrise a couple of blocks away.) - LEFT on 20th. (The very first traffic light after exit ramp. Taco Bell on left). - RIGHT turn at next stop sign (Palm St.). - PROCEED 1.5 blocks. (Parking Garage entrance at rear of Bayview building is on your right.) - PARK on the 2nd level. .................................. NANO ................................... + Once you've parked your flying saucer in the Garage: - STAIRS (or Elevator) to the main level, step out and... - WALK WEST across the courtyard to the main (tallest) building. - PASS through the doorway in the stand-alone exterior "glass wall" and approach the "information" window (also the guard station) on the north side of the building. - GET the guard's attention (preferably *not* by waving a firearm). Use the passwords ("PGP" or "cypherpunks") and you'll be admitted. If the guard's on a break, call my cellphone 415.730.3583. - ELEVATOR to 2nd Floor. (The meeting room is on left side, slightly down the hall) PGP's offices are on the 9th Floor (soon the 10th too). ............................................................................ For CalTrain-ers, get off at the San Mateo station near the Bay Meadows horse racing track and head for the tallest building around with the huge "Bayview" sign on top. For the bus, take any line running on El Camino Real to the intersection of 20th in San Mateo and dismount. You're there.

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CBD - DEA - TELEPHONE MONITORING DEVICE
by Michael F. Reusch 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.ld.com/cbd/archive/1997/04(April)/30-Apr-1997/58sol008.htm Commerce Business Daily, April 30, 1997 Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of Acquisition Management, 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia 22202 58 -- SOURCES SOUGHT -- TELEPHONE MONITORING DEVICE SOL 97-SP0453 POC Yolanda Jordan, Purchasing Agent, (202) 307-7805 The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is seeking to identify qualified sources to provide a telephone data recording system which will provide management with the following: 1) provides for centralized management; 2) has synchronized agent directories; 3) multiple leveled and layered, user profile security; 4) a strategic framework to support future functionality 5) easy-to-use for users; 6) automate and simplify the entire monitoring process of voice and data; 7) provide an objective approach to personnel evaluation and analysis; 8) provide insight into the effectiveness of the software applications and hardware systems being used by employees; 9) provide a training tool for employees, classroom environments and peer group sessions; 10) provide a means for fraud detection; 11) work in oracle local area network. this system shall perform on-line evaluation, product data, analysis/report of telephone conversations and customer account screens across a wide area network. This information will also need to provide storage for data for three to six months. This announcement is not a Request for Proposal or Request for Quotation. there is no solicitation/RFQ available. We request that interested sources submit a capability statement that clearly identifies their capabilities by May 27, 1997 to U.S. Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA 22202, Attn: Yolanda Jordan. Any questions should be directed to Ms. Yolanda Jordan at 202-307-7805. DEA does not intend to award a contact on the basis of this request for information or otherwise pay for the information solicited.

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Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov writes: > Dave Hayes wrote: > > Judgementally speaking, if you spam, you may not continue to condemn > > spammers and be consistent. > Let's say, what if instead of spamming Prof. Arachelian hacks Cyberpromo > and deletes all files there? Would it also be inconsistent, in your > view? What makes you think that my view of consistency has anything to do with this action? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue.

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Re: Jim Bell in the Oregonian
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:09 5/06/97 -0700, Alan wrote: > >Jim Bell has an editorial (with his picture) in the Oregonian. (Morning >edition, May 6th, 1997 page B-9.) It takes up about a quarter of the >page. > >It is an interesting read. It does not address the problems with AP, Given that the article was, more or less, limited to 800 words (it actually runs about 40 over this informal limit) it is by no means surprising that it "does not address the problems [sic] with AP." Why would you think it would?!? > but >it does deal with the raid and other issues involved. And I've already posted it, but it probably hadn't appeared to most CP subscribers, certainly not by the time you posted your note, and maybe not even when I post this note. > >Jim might consider posting a copy of the original article here. Given the >Oregano's love of cut-and-paste journalism, it would be interesting how >the original and print versions differ. I didn't seen any substantial changes to the body of the article, although my preferred title wasn't used. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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AP --> AR
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May verily saith [paraphrase]: > I would cry few tears if D.C. got nuked This will be an historical event of importance comparable to the American Revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Even now Clinton and his organization are pointing weapons of mass terror and murder at hundreds of millions of people around the world, and other leaders of these gangs with weapons too murderous to be called gangs, these terrorists far too terrifying to the called terrorists, are pointing their weapons at us. Far from enemies, the supergang chieftans contribute to each others' campaigns, turning democracy into a sick joke. The fact of friendship between super-terrorist leaders does not stop them from threatening us with terror and death in the name of "defense" against "enemy nations", and by the most bizarre hypocrisy ever dreamed up by the mind of man, trampling our rights in the name of controlling "terrorism". The supreme justice will be done when these weapons of mass terror are turned back on their wielders and those proximate who have failed to use their proximity to bring these ultimate criminals to justice. Those innocents who die will be mourned as saviours for the many tens of millions who would have been murdered by governments in the twenty first century, as they have been in the twentieth. I live about one hundred-fifty miles away from that fetid place, sometimes downwind. The risk to my family from the fallout is fairly small compared to the risks we face every day from these super-terrorists pointing weapons at us, threatening us constantly, sometimes murdering us outright when they can cook up a good enough story to justify it on the evening news. The money I have to spend to protect my family from the fallout, and from any temporary economic setback to our region, would be earned back in less than a year of not having my livelihood sucked away by these mass murdering parasites, and the very lives of my beloved family, my lovely wife, my son and my two daughters, threatened by their thug friends and campaign contributors overseas. D.C. may lead the nation in personal crimes, but these are as nothing next to the crimes it has committed against the peoples of the rest of the nation and the world. These self-legalized criminals have in this administration alone murdered more children than Charles Manson killed adults. AP may be more targeted, but it just doesn't do the crimes justice. For that will come AR -- appropriate response. "John the Baptist"

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Since when is supporting unrestricted crypto unreasonable?
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Shabbir J. Safdar" <shabbir(a)vtw.org> writes: > You're pretty hard on CDT, but EFF, EPIC, the ACLU, VTW, Americans for Tax > Reform, the Association for Computing Machinery, Computer Professionals for > Social Responsiblity, Eagle Forum, the National Association for Criminal > Defense Lawyers, and PGP Inc all signed this letter. > > Can you consider, perhaps, for a second, that critics of SAFE are being > unreasonable? No. Perhaps we consider accepting the bill with such glaring loopholes unreasonable. > I would think so, as critics of SAFE include the Clinton > Administration. Is that the kind of company that cypherpunks keep? I'll let this remark stand on it's own merit. > Looks like widespread support from people who study this issue for living. > I'm glad to be counted among them. Interesting dismissal and point of view from an organization which is ostensibly a promoter of civil liberties. The trace of elitism in this quote is an irony that this reader didn't miss. "Democracy," indeed. It appears that in your daily study of this issue -- and I'm assuming that familiarity with Cypherpunks is part of that -- you missed some of the differences between many Cypherpunks and your organization(s). We all agree that unrestricted/unregulated Cryptography is a "good thing." However, the compromises ACLU, EPIC, EFF, CDT, etc. are willing to make with this bill do not further this ultimate goal. Unless the administration intends to simply ignore the obvious loopholes. There are also some philosophical differences. To quote Alan Davidson: > There is a right we don't have now: The right to export strong > cryptography. The result is that strong, easy-to-use encryption is not > seamlessly integrated into most popular products, and is not accessible to > most people Actually, the government doesn't have the right to impose restrictions on strong cryptography. Yet time and again, it has attempted to do so, resulting in -- as Alan noted -- a chilling effect on the spread of strong crypto in the mass market. And government will continue attempts to reach into regulation of crypto. This is why compromise is unacceptable. Far better to work around it attempting to spread cryptography far and wide while legislators and administrators struggle to slip their agenda past your watchful eyes. But there is another force at work here. There is no "killer" crypto app in the eyes of the masses. PGP 2.6xxxxx is probably the closest thing we currently have in this regard. Furthermore, crypto still remains largely below the public radar. While government officials can trot out the four horsemen with predictable reactions, the proverbial "other side" has few arguments that carry a similar impact. We can cite abuses, encroachment on civil liberties, increasing surveillance efforts, and numerous other frightening developments. None of these have broken into the mass conciousness in the same way that "protecting the children/public safety" arguments have. <Irony> Labels like "militia", "extreme edge" and "radical" also carry alot of weight in the increasingly paranoid public mind.</Irony> Until some outrageous surveillance or crypto related abuse occurs (cryptogate) or is uncovered , it will remain difficult to garner real mass public support. The Newt Gingrich cell-phone fiasco came as close as anything yet. Commercial interests "get it" & support crypto for wholly different reasons. I'm starting to think that until someone actually gets arrested and jailed for using strong, unbreakable encryption that is "suspected" of supporting a crime, little will change. In the meantime, the administration, Congress, and the TLA's will keep getting closer to achieving their goals.

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by Jenaer Mixmaster Anonserver 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For your interest and amusement... London Daily Telegraph, 5/6/97 "French coders go on strike" France's 260 Foreign Ministry coders, who decipher top security messages, went on strike yesterday for the first time since their department was set up in the 1960s. The strike is over career status, the lack of recruits and the impact of new technologies. Talks are to be held tomorrow. AFP, Paris

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Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov writes: > I am interested in your view, Dave. There are only two reasons that I can see your interest serving. You either wish to support my views or oppose them. Neither case serves your potential enlightement, therefore I shall choose to not answer. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Test (n.) - 1. A hardship you don't expect. Brave (adj.) - 1. Someone looking for a test.

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Re: Controversial Commercial ISP for Remailer?
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dave Hayes wrote: > Igor Chudov writes: > > I am interested in your view, Dave. > > There are only two reasons that I can see your interest serving. > You either wish to support my views or oppose them. Neither case > serves your potential enlightement, therefore I shall choose to > not answer. Dave, you are a very insightful man, but in this case you were mistaken: I am interested to hear your views for my enlightenment. But your response above also serves my curiosity, no less than a more direct one, so thank you very much. - Igor.

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The Executive State
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:46:19 -0700 From: thomasu(a)mail.auburn.edu To: misesmail(a)colossus.net Subject: The Executive State Sender: owner-misesmail(a)colossus.net Precedence: Bulk The Executive State: The U.S. Presidency vs. American Liberty When President Clinton asked golfer Tiger Woods to join him at an official propaganda event, and even offered to send Air Force One, Tiger answered as every freedom-loving American should: he had something better to do. He was going on a vacation with some college chums. Tiger has his priorities straight, but his turndown is another indication that the presidency is shrinking as an institution. It still commands, but no longer compels, our undying (or dying) obedience, no matter how many monuments are erected to despots on the Washington Mall. This trend is all to the good. The legacy of presidential autocracy from the earliest days of the republic to the present survives in the form of the executive state. But where can you go in the library to find the truth about the havoc U.S. presidents have wrecked on the American promise of freedom? Virtually nowhere. The official history of the presidency reads like the Lives of the Saints. The Mises Institute intends to do something about this. In the Fall of 1998, we're holding a major academic conference on the American presidency. Our purpose is to debunk the conventional view that the more power he's usurped, the better off the American people are. All the presidents qualify for study, but we are especially interested in the checkered careers and dictates of Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Roosevelt I, Wilson, Roosevelt II, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan. If you're a scholar and would like to participate with a paper on some aspect of a presidential power grab (or one of those few occasions when a president did some good) let us know. An abstract is all that's necessary to be considered now. The Ludwig von Mises Institute Auburn, Alabama 36849-5301 334-844-2500; fax: 334-844-2583 --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA Lesley Stahl: "You mean *anyone* can set up a web site and compete with the New York Times?" Andrew Kantor: "Yes." Stahl: "Isn't that dangerous?" The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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airlines_2.html
by Lynx_User＠linux.nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Reuters New Media [ Yahoo | Write Us | Search | Info ] [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Clinton Defends Wife's Whitewater Statements Next Story: Clinton, Zedillo Work to Improve Relations _________________________________________________________________ Tuesday May 6 11:33 PM EDT Airlines Step Up Baggage Security Measures WASHINGTON (Reuter) - U.S. airlines started a nationwide domestic trial Tuesday to match passengers with luggage as a way to intercept terrorists who might try to get a bomb on a plane in an unaccompanied bag. The Air Transport Association, which represents all the major U.S. carriers, said the trial followed recommendations by a special White House commission formed after the explosion last summer of TWA flight 800. Terrorism was at first thought to be the cause of the explosion that killed all 230 people on board the Boeing 747, but officials say evidence now lead to mechanical failure. John Meenan, Air Transport Association vice president for policy and planning, said the trial would run for about two weeks. He said the airlines were deciding the extent of bag checking, on Federal Aviation Administration advice to run trials at various airports, including hub and spoke operations and city-to-city flights. Meenan said there was a potential for delays when a passenger checked a bag but then, for any reason, might not board the flight and stayed back for a later connection. In the past, he said, that would not cause a problem. "But in the trial, if they find you are not there, they must find your bag in the belly of the plane," Meenan said. "The delay can be very significant." He said if one plane were held up for an hour at a busy airport, that would prevent another aircraft from landing and taking its place at the gate, as well as cause passengers to miss connections. "You have cascading effect," he said. FAA spokeswoman Rebecca Trexler said she hoped there would not be too many delays, adding that the trial was in part to see the effect of bag matching on airline schedules. Trexler added that airlines had the option of suspending the trial if delays were 20 minutes or longer, but by the end of the day she had no reports of any delays that long. Bags are already matched on overseas flights, Meenan said, but those are not scheduled as closely together as domestic flights when every departure and arrival is timed to get full use out of every plane making any delay costly to the carrier. He said he did not think bag matching was the answer to security because it would cause too many serious delays. He said the answer might be a combination of bag matching and profiling passengers to try to screen for further investigation any passenger who seemed to be a potential risk, also recommended by the special commission. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ Help _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Clinton Defends Wife's Whitewater Statements Next Story: Clinton, Zedillo Work to Improve Relations _________________________________________________________________ [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited Questions or Comments

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IBM's New Algo
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New York Times, May 7, 1997, p. D5. I.B.M. Researchers Develop A New Encryption Formula By Laurence Zuckerman I.B.M. plans to announce today that two of its researchers have come up with a new computer encryption formula that they say is nearly impossible to crack. The International Business Machines Corporation said that the breakthrough was still a long way from being employed outside the lab and that it did nothing to resolve the running dispute between the computer industry and the Federal Government over whether law enforcement agencies should be given access to encrypted communications. But it could ultimately help reduce the vulnerability of so-called public-key encryption, which is the favored security method used to safeguard commerce and privacy on the Internet. "They've made a big advance," said Joan Feigenbaum, a researcher at AT&T Labs in Murray Hill, N.J., who is familiar with the work of the two computer scientists who developed the system, Miklos Ajtai and Cynthia Dwork of I.B.M.'s Almaden Research Center in San Jose, Calif. "Scientifically, this is a big step in the right direction." But Bruce Schneier, a computer security consultant in Minneapolis and author of a standard textbook on cryptography, dismissed the news. "Theoretically it is important, but as a security breakthrough there is nothing new," he said. In public-key encryption, the sender of an electronic communication uses software that automatically scrambles the information by incorporating a publicly known numerical key. Decoding the scrambled transmission requires a private key, a number supposedly known only by the recipient. The security of the system depends, among other things, on how difficult it is for an electronic eavesdropper to crack the code using a powerful computer. If some of the codes that are generated by the system are difficult to break but others are easy, the system is inherently weak. I.B.M. said that its new system was the first to generate hundreds of codes at random, each of which is as difficult to crack as the hardest instance of the underlying mathematical problem. The system is based on a problem that has defied solution by mathematicians for 150 years, I.B.M. said. Mr. Schneier said that the cryptographic formulas now in use were already robust enough. The biggest challenge, he said, is creating security systems in the real world that are not vulnerable to hackers. "Cryptography is a lot more than math" he said. [End]

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Netscape-128 not at Replay.com
by Mike 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems that the US versions of Netscape have been removed from ftp.replay.com. Did Netscape comment on the software being available, or what happened? Mike.

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Rape, death and XS4ALL
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > The only "nice people" are dangerous anarchists bent on destroying > > governments and buggering poloticians to death. (last part a personal > > preference of course, the author is totally straight but would > > nonetheless be distinctly amused to see any government official > > butt-raped to death) > > I, personally, would have to use a dildo. Even if I were queer, > I wouldn't get it up for a politician or a Cabal supporter. This I can fully understand. > > > "The Internet Watch Foundation forces the provider to remove the > > > illegal content," he added. "This is a fundamentally different approach > > > to responsibilities on the Internet. We think the author of the > > > information is responsible for his own actions, not the provider." > > I hope the IRA blows up these Internet Watch motherfuckers. If I don`t get there first... > Is this Blair guy any saner than the tory bastards? Calling any democratic polotician, especially in the UK, sane, is a big mistake. However, if we may rephrase and ask if he is any less deranged we can safely answer "no". I heard a wonderful comment on the cryptography@c2 list earlier that Jack Straw (the new Labour home secretary, who is in charge of law and order) may be defined as the only person for whom anal sex with michael howard (his predecessor) counts as masturbation. They both even look deranged (Michael Howard looked rather like a serial killer and jack straw looks like a church reject). I don`t know about crypto policy, Labour are supposed to be opposed to mandatory GAK but this is of course a small issue when put in perspective. The new labour administration are a group of anti-drugs, anti-"crime" misfits who I hope go the same way as the previous leader of the labour party, John Smith, who died of a heart attack. Just to give you some overview of the fuck ups we now have governing the UK I present a list of proposals Tony Blair and his motley crew have made in the last year: Mandatory minimum sentencing for repeat offenders regardless of the opinion of the judge. State set curfews for all children under 16 regardless of their parents wishes. Parents to be held responsible for the crimes of their children if the children repeat offend. Several vague allusions towards internet censorship schemes or mandatory web page rating using PICS. Minimum wage for full time employees, regardless of the empolyees skills or the wishes of the employer. Further action to prevent "bias" and "discrimination" in the workplace, eg. "Employ this unskilled bone idle coon and we`ll lower your corporation tax 2%" Further plans for yet more CCTV cameras in public places. Mandatory ID cards for citizens (This one sounds like a joke, believe me it is not). A ban on all handguns even when registered (currently all pistols above .22 are banned and all guns have to be registered in a process whereby if the applicant for a certificate has any history of political dissention or crime (eg. Smoking a joint, the ultimate sin against society) the certificate will be refused. Yet more spending on welfare to support the pieces of shit in the gutter I pass every day. > > And if he chooses not to remove the content you happen to find offensive? > > If you truly believed in the rights of the author and publisher of the > > information you would think about it before sending in your own > > particular brand of thugs to "crush the mutiny". > > Perhaps we should further expose XS4ALL's hypocricy by renting from the > web space and putting up some pages they won't like. I think this is an excellent idea, I`ll call or mail them in a few days to find out their pricing structure. > > > Yet when violation of the law is flagrant, XS4ALL doesn't hesitate to > > > comply, as it did a few weeks ago when it shut down a customer's home > > > page called Neuroroom, which sold marijuana and other soft drugs in > > > Holland and abroad. > > > > Sometimes one really wonders why we bother to set up mirrors to allow > > freedom of information to users, when the owners of these servers, > > supposedly in favour of free speech, do not even have the strength of > > character or conviction to decide for themselves what they will allow on > > their servers rather than bending over for the long cock of the law... > > The ISP is not a court to decide that a web page offering MJ for > sale is "illegal". Absolutely, besides which, even though I believe in the right of people to be as bigotted and statist as they see fit, there are only so many causes we can support and coming in on the side of XS4ALL knowing their record seems ill advised to me. If they truly deserved our support they would retain the pages whether they were legal or not. > > > "Basically any project we like gets free resources from XS4ALL," > > > Rodriquez commented. > > > > And anyone who guarantees to publicly lick the boots of the benevolent > > owners in thanks for their support gets as much free space as they like? > > > > Of course I believe in the right to free expression of anyone and if > > these thugs choose not to allow material they don`t like on their servers > > they have every right to remove it. I just don`t see that setting up > > mirrors to defeat blocks on sites that refuse to carry certain content is > > of any value in the fight for free speech. Sure, create a mirror of > > Radikal, but giving any credit or attribution to XS4ALL seems to be a > > poor choice. > > My understanding is that Radikal is a harmless, toothless liberal rag > that the Germans had no grounds for censoring in the first place. > Mirroring it is no big deal. How about mirroring the MJ page that > the bastards at XS4ALL censored? I actually went to the page once, nearly brought some bud but as I recall they didn`t have an SSL link so I chose not to transmit my CCN. I don`t have a copy, but if XS4ALL have any balls at all they will send us a copy. I`ll get onto them about this later. > Actually, I don't think mirroring is a good technology either. > The "eternal server" posted a few days ago seems VERY VERY promising, > I'm very exited about this technology - many many thanks. No, it isn`t really but was, for all intents and purposes, the best we had. I haven`t yet seen the eternal server idea but I`ll trawl the archives for it. Paul "Can`t really be bothered to re-do his .sig file yet" Bradley

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(1048129di) Questions, Round Thirteen, The Dilbert Trivia Game
by dogbert＠yoyo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Just like that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This Week's Questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Question One ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a meeting with the boss, as captured forever in the pages of "Dogbert's Top-Secret Management Handbook" ("DTSMH"), Dilbert is told to add a sentence to his report saying that micro-robotics is a dead-end technology. When he answers that the statement would make the whole report a confusing and senseless waste of time, the boss says: A -- That's okay. We just won't let anybody else see it. B -- That's part of our strategy. C -- And your point is what? Question Two ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Discussing the quality assurance process with Ratbert (as transcribed in a strip in "DTSMH"), the boss accuses him of finding a huge number of flaws in the prototype, jeopardizing the schedule. The possible results, according to the boss, are: A -- Mass layoffs will result. B -- The entire project will fail and it's all your fault. C -- This could be the end of civilization as we know it. 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Re: SAFE
by Lee Tien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's what Prof. Froomkin said about SAFE on another list: >What I want to know about SAFE is this: > >1. Will it in effect federalize huge chunks of state criminal law once >crypto is ubiquitous in telephones, email, garage-door openers etc.? >Every state crime will now have a federal component... > >2. Will the federal crypto-use-in-furtherance-of-a-state-crime be a >separate predicate offense for civil (and criminal?) RICO? > >3. What will the five year term for this offense do to the >plea-bargaining dynamic in every garden variety crime. > >Recall my hypothesis: crypto will be seamless and ubiquitous in N years, >where N is not large. Especially if SAFE passes and export controls are >removed. > >On balance, I oppose SAFE. It's not worth it. [I wonder: how does SAFE interact with IPSEC and arrangements like S/WAN? This is not, I think, merely the "willful furtherance" provision. The "law enforcement" access provision may be ambiguous for keys that are not "private"; my understanding of IPSEC is that the key is in the possession of the machine and not the user. I'm unclear whether users have 4th A. standing to challenge law enforcement access to such keys; there are lots of 4th A cases where a person has no privacy interest in information because it's been disclosed to another person, or is in another person's control. Of course, I probably don't understand how IPSEC works, so corrections are welcomed.] Lee

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My editorial in Oregonian newspaper published today.
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following editorial appears in the Tuesday, May 6 issue of the (Portland) Oregonian newspaper, on the editorial page. Fishing Expedition Swims Against Tide According to the maxim, if you invent a better mouse-trap the world will beat a path to your door. Maybe the truth is that, instead, you'll get assaulted by angry cats who are afraid of losing their jobs. Suppose the government discovered a method to make itself obsolete. Or suppose the military learned how to make us all even more secure, for a thousandth as much defense spending. We'd never hear about it because they'd be out of a job, and job security, not national security, is their highest priority. Two years ago I had a revolutionary idea. I was tired of hearing the usual stories about how much harder society's problems have gotten in the last few decades. It's not that the problems are harder, it's just that large constituencies have been built which depend on these "problems" for their income. For example, when the Cold War ended, there was no military reason we couldn't have reduced our military budget by a factor of two or three. "But no!," said the politicians, let's continue buying those expensive Stealth bombers, submarines, tilt-wing airplanes, and other toys. We weren't afraid of getting attacked, the spending continued because of the threat of unemployment on the part of the defense-industry workers. Legalize drugs and turn a vast legal problem into a far cheaper and more manageable health problem? No, because with 70% or more of the prison population there due to drug laws, you'd have to fire most of the jailers, the prosecutors, the police, the judges, and the lawyers, all of whom have come to depend on the involuntary "generosity" of the taxpayer. Two years ago I realized that the whole corrupt system could be stopped. It would be necessary to not only halt pork-barrel politics at all levels, but also to provide a very few necessary services for people, such as defense and justice, although financed inexpensively and voluntarily. You'd have to shut down all militaries and governments, simultaneously, all around the world, while at the same time protecting our security. Impossible? In the summer of 1995 I began to write an essay, half-jokingly titled "Assassination Politics". It occurred to me that if people could defend themselves by anonymously donating money to anonymous people who act to protect us, you wouldn't need militaries or governments anymore. Nuclear bombs would be obsolete, and in fact they will be hopelessly dangerous to anyone who owns them, because the rest of us will be able to donate money to ensure their owners have no choice but to dismantle them. Conventional militaries will be useless, because threats to people's security will be dealt with far more cheaply by large numbers of tiny individual contributions buying the part-time services of a few semi-professional trouble-shooters. Murderous dictators of the past and present, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Khadafi, Idi Amin, and so many others simply couldn't operate in such a world, because they (and their replacements, if anyone dared follow them) could be removed for the collective pocket change of a few million angry citizens. There'd be no conventional wars, because anyone who would make war would be a threat not only to his enemy, but also to anyone on "his" side who would be forced to help pay for that war, or even third parties who wouldn't want to see aggression win, for fear they'd be the next target. There would be no draft, because forcing someone else to fight for you makes YOU his enemy, as well: On the other hand, if your cause is just, he will contribute voluntarily, just as you do, to see the bad guy stopped. There would be little crime, because crime will be treated as an attack, and people will be able to donate money to find and stop the criminals. But unlike today, there will be no large constituency (police, jailers, judges, prosecutors, lawyers) who have a vested interest in keeping the crime rate high, thus terrorizing the public into supporting "anti-crime spending" which really just lines their pockets. I've been openly debating the idea on the Internet since then with anyone who will listen. My essay surprises many and shocks more than a few, but I am pleased that such a truly revolutionary concept has been so well received. Even the Columbian newspaper (www.columbian.com) has decided to add a pointer to the essay. The only "threat" in the essay is to the jobs of the people who have been parasites on the rest of us for decades, as well as to the future of tyrannies around the world. But that's why, on April 1, twenty Federal agents burst in and took my computer, told the news media I was "armed and dangerous," and began engaging in a fishing expedition including harassing people simply for knowing me. (No arrest or charges so far.) They may claim that they were looking for something else, but what they are really, desperately hoping to find is...job security. If I'm right, they have none. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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My editorial in Oregonian newspaper published today.
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My editorial appeared in the Tuesday, May 6 issue of the (Portland) Oregonian newspaper, on the editorial page. Fishing Expedition Swims Against Tide According to the maxim, if you invent a better mouse-trap the world will beat a path to your door. Maybe the truth is that, instead, you'll get assaulted by angry cats who are afraid of losing their jobs. Suppose the government discovered a method to make itself obsolete. Or suppose the military learned how to make us all even more secure, for a thousandth as much defense spending. We'd never hear about it because they'd be out of a job, and job security, not national security, is their highest priority. Two years ago I had a revolutionary idea. I was tired of hearing the usual stories about how much harder society's problems have gotten in the last few decades. It's not that the problems are harder, it's just that large constituencies have been built which depend on these "problems" for their income. For example, when the Cold War ended, there was no military reason we couldn't have reduced our military budget by a factor of two or three. "But no!," said the politicians, let's continue buying those expensive Stealth bombers, submarines, tilt-wing airplanes, and other toys. We weren't afraid of getting attacked, the spending continued because of the threat of unemployment on the part of the defense-industry workers. Legalize drugs and turn a vast legal problem into a far cheaper and more manageable health problem? No, because with 70% or more of the prison population there due to drug laws, you'd have to fire most of the jailers, the prosecutors, the police, the judges, and the lawyers, all of whom have come to depend on the involuntary "generosity" of the taxpayer. Two years ago I realized that the whole corrupt system could be stopped. It would be necessary to not only halt pork-barrel politics at all levels, but also to provide a very few necessary services for people, such as defense and justice, although financed inexpensively and voluntarily. You'd have to shut down all militaries and governments, simultaneously, all around the world, while at the same time protecting our security. Impossible? In the summer of 1995 I began to write an essay, half-jokingly titled "Assassination Politics". It occurred to me that if people could defend themselves by anonymously donating money to anonymous people who act to protect us, you wouldn't need militaries or governments anymore. Nuclear bombs would be obsolete, and in fact they will be hopelessly dangerous to anyone who owns them, because the rest of us will be able to donate money to ensure their owners have no choice but to dismantle them. Conventional militaries will be useless, because threats to people's security will be dealt with far more cheaply by large numbers of tiny individual contributions buying the part-time services of a few semi-professional trouble-shooters. Murderous dictators of the past and present, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Khadafi, Idi Amin, and so many others simply couldn't operate in such a world, because they (and their replacements, if anyone dared follow them) could be removed for the collective pocket change of a few million angry citizens. There'd be no conventional wars, because anyone who would make war would be a threat not only to his enemy, but also to anyone on "his" side who would be forced to help pay for that war, or even third parties who wouldn't want to see aggression win, for fear they'd be the next target. There would be no draft, because forcing someone else to fight for you makes YOU his enemy, as well: On the other hand, if your cause is just, he will contribute voluntarily, just as you do, to see the bad guy stopped. There would be little crime, because crime will be treated as an attack, and people will be able to donate money to find and stop the criminals. But unlike today, there will be no large constituency (police, jailers, judges, prosecutors, lawyers) who have a vested interest in keeping the crime rate high, thus terrorizing the public into supporting "anti-crime spending" which really just lines their pockets. I've been openly debating the idea on the Internet since then with anyone who will listen. My essay surprises many and shocks more than a few, but I am pleased that such a truly revolutionary concept has been so well received. Even the Columbian newspaper (www.columbian.com) has decided to add a pointer to the essay. The only "threat" in the essay is to the jobs of the people who have been parasites on the rest of us for decades, as well as to the future of tyrannies around the world. But that's why, on April 1, twenty Federal agents burst in and took my computer, told the news media I was "armed and dangerous," and began engaging in a fishing expedition including harassing people simply for knowing me. (No arrest or charges so far.) They may claim that they were looking for something else, but what they are really, desperately hoping to find is...job security. If I'm right, they have none. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: The Executive State
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone doubting that the center of gravity of world power is shifting would do well to ponder: 100 of the world's top CEO's are going to Bill Gates' house to hear him expound on what the future will look like. IF that doesn't make you nervous nothing will. It's at least as nervewracking as anything Clinton admin. might do. At 07:26 PM 5/6/97 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:46:19 -0700 >From: thomasu(a)mail.auburn.edu >To: misesmail(a)colossus.net >Subject: The Executive State >Sender: owner-misesmail(a)colossus.net >Precedence: Bulk > >The Executive State: >The U.S. Presidency vs. American Liberty > > When President Clinton asked golfer Tiger Woods to join him at an official >propaganda event, and even offered to send Air Force One, Tiger answered as >every freedom-loving American should: he had something better to do. He was >going on a vacation with some college chums. > > Tiger has his priorities straight, but his turndown is another indication >that the presidency is shrinking as an institution. It still commands, but >no longer compels, our undying (or dying) obedience, no matter how many >monuments are erected to despots on the Washington Mall. This trend is all >to the good. > > The legacy of presidential autocracy from the earliest days of the >republic to the present survives in the form of the executive state. But >where can you go in the library to find the truth about the havoc U.S. >presidents have wrecked on the American promise of freedom? Virtually >nowhere. The official history of the presidency reads like the Lives of the >Saints. > > The Mises Institute intends to do something about this. In the Fall of >1998, we're holding a major academic conference on the American presidency. >Our purpose is to debunk the conventional view that the more power he's >usurped, the better off the American people are. > > All the presidents qualify for study, but we are especially interested in >the checkered careers and dictates of Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Roosevelt I, >Wilson, Roosevelt II, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan. > > If you're a scholar and would like to participate with a paper on some >aspect of a presidential power grab (or one of those few occasions when a >president did some good) let us know. An abstract is all that's necessary >to be considered now. > >The Ludwig von Mises Institute >Auburn, Alabama 36849-5301 >334-844-2500; fax: 334-844-2583 > >--- end forwarded text > > > >----------------- >Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox >e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >Lesley Stahl: "You mean *anyone* can set up a web site and compete > with the New York Times?" >Andrew Kantor: "Yes." Stahl: "Isn't that dangerous?" >The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ > > > > >

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17 Dec '03

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Duplicate checking: Ignore
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test sent via cyberpass.net Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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AWK_war
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wash Post reports today on a NSA intercept of a "secure communication" between two Israeli spooks discussing a top US official spying for Israel. The FBI opened an investigation in January. Israel denies the claim. Crypto is not mentioned, only that the Hebrew conversation was "awkwardly" translated. The intercept was withdrawn after 12 hours from the distribution list due to FBI's dismay at its spread. ------- AWK_war

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Banking Secrecy and Nazi Gold
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I try to deconstruct events, to determine what the real issues are. Take the case of the ongoing flap over Switzerland and claims that Swiss banks hid gold, jewels, and other forms of money for high-ranking Nazis. Adding to the flap--actually, making it a newsworthy event--is the allegation, probably true, that some of the gold was taken from Jews and others sent to extermination camps. (A further claim, not related to the Nazi claim directly, is that the bank accounts of those who perished in the war were not made available to heirs, that in some cases the banks even liquidated the accounts and used the money for (unspecified) purposes. I know little about this particular claim, and won't discuss it further.) OK, so it's clear to all right-thinking persons what should be done: Switzerland should return the money to the heirs of those killed by the Nazis. Ah, but it's not so clear to me. I guess I'm not a right-thinking person. First, it is not a matter of "Switzerland" having done something, it is a matter of several major banks and dozens (I presume) of lesser banks. It is Credit Suisse, Union Bank, etc. who presumably took in deposits, with numbered accounts (perfectly legal by Swiss law at the time), not the "state of Switzerland." Second, how could the _provenance_ of the deposits be determined by, say Credit Suisse? How could Hans the Banker taking a deposit from Fritz the Depositer somehow know that the money Fritz was depositing was from money seized from Jews? For all Hans knew, especially in 1939-43, before any real knowleedge of the extermination of Jews became available (and such knowledge was still rare, as any examination of the newspapers of the day will show), the money was from German families seeking to protect their own assets, or was even money siphoned from the German war effort, and so on. Third, the notion that "Switzerland must do something!" is pernicious and inimical to banking secrecy and basic privacy issues. A drumbeat is building which will serve to undermine banking secrecy around the world. (Now what happened to the Jews in Europe was horrible, depicable, etc. It was an example of the power of the total state to order the liquidation of some religious or ethnic faction. But the horror of the liquidation of millions of Jews, or millions of Chinese, or millions of Tutsis/Hutus, etc., must not be an excuse for expanding the power of states still further. That circular logic will ultimately kill even more in factions out of favor.) This issue relates to Chaumian anonymous cash, of course. One can imagine various scenarios by which crypto anarchy is used to transfer funds, etc. Left as an exercise for the imaginative. As the "Nazi Gold" story continues to build, expect "Swiss bankers" to be added to the list of the "Horsemen." (Swiss bankers always have been viewed with some suspicion--and admiration. Usually related to their "sheltering" of funds from dictators and mobsters. And their has long been the hint of complicity with the Reich in some areas. But now the move is on to associate Swiss banks with the Holocaust more explicitly.) I suspect the U.S. pressure on Swiss banks has a political dimension related to forcing a New World Order on international banking. The U.S. wants banking secrecy subject to U.S. control (so that banks like Castle Bank, Nugan Hand Bank, Banco Ambrosiano, BCCI, and the Bank of America can continue to be used for U.S. interests, and only U.S. interests). The Jews killed by the German state in the war are dead and gone. Most of their money is irretrievably gone. The clamor to break banking secrecy and "force" the banks to disclose all records is part of a larger political game. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Test, Ignore
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test message send via algebra.com Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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