December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Disinformation in L.A.
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Didn't her boss's murderer walk on the charge by using the defence that he ate too many Twinkies? No political intrigue here...

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Re: Spectre disapproves of remailers and anonmyity
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed May 14 11:06:28 1997 > Nonsense. People use remailers for all sorts of reasons. I'm waiting... number one reason seems to be spam.. no matter, though.. I've added the filter, and won't take it out unless a very good reason comes along. > (Speaking for myself, and trying to be careful to not implicate myself > (in > further felonies, I've used the available remailers to post > liberated information of various sorts. Go back and check the archives. > You'll find that "Dumpster divings" of information from corporate > conspirators (a la Cylink, Mykotronx) was posted through anonymous > remailers. Who would argue that the cause of liberty would be better > served by posting these items under one's own name, where the Corporate > State could then file lawsuits, order midnight raids, etc.?) Much easier to put something like that on multiple ftp sites and then alert the public to what you've 'found' there. > > As for the time to delete the Vulis spam, you must be innumerate. You insult my position without disproving it. I am not impressed. In any case, I spend far less time now deleting those messages, seeing as how I don't spend any. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3nU+KAC4xvMjGa1AQFsJgf+OrDukLzwLrXbh6HAK+oq/bv7k7MVsRY0 UES+6OJbG9zch4p71dGMtUBJgF1jnC1HyIhCY7QHyAcLKD6Nmd1ABmpLXs2LvqC6 u00kP6Xps/zCs8pqloSkQgJWjnqU4qZAqMIIoz0lT2fjBX8YDzBRDZHUS4Jl3y0a ej4MROr159hd4G/7YUOqA1UBnarPV2F0UtoQ9FWzcX8MbBJHLBof4kQawl1M3EVI yy1Eg78VV3UK2EaXAuhyT4SI2OakYg8AwR5PGQl/o0tyIxqqoDoKmv9kL+g8A8Z1 vHvAJNWZ/Sea5APkNbi3LZtN/DNoLMsVd+WwtPkWbfnWKD/7P3fjXw== =TLsw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Public Key Break Paper
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I just took a brief look at it, (thanks for forwarding, Lucky), >and it's pure crap-ola. As a meta-point any securirty person knows that employees and ex-employees are the most serious security risks. Its not exactly unknown for someone to go nuts and then come out with loony paranoid theories. This may not be the case in this instance but its a good idea not to start seeing black helicopters arround every corner... Phill

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Re: Would the anonymous person(s) please...
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed May 14 11:12:10 1997 > Would all those anonymous remailing people with a flame tendency, > please flame the person of your attacks, and don't send this bullshit > to the list? Thanks... > What would be the point.. the only person you can be *sure* doesn't care about these messages is the mark. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3nWTaAC4xvMjGa1AQHPLAf+PrpiMXm4xG3Ex2rTiowGqXL5ODizBaQB IL+5Q6wTLjlpWJf5OFNX2YvLhsqWS868vLRq9xDsTTsYskhyj9bFfCR7izXq0TJu ROFRKqo0F9iXYJt0pERBwHlfvdZ8wRfJMyql+FQSV5yiHyguWWuIvkalx695M992 bdGMq9WhKmlfFG2MvP8Wye478XlllYZzzQJ8lxnMlWGbekuQs+Ciduvqe9r0dKj2 UcrLdFOTwECBVv8QsTwY8Kc+RYNwuXSxTwRxrrs285b3TX8s+hhUPeoFyjbpPdG4 D9t1AgD1+CJUee4HIZQAy2vmUrUJZvNAxTlQoVoXEHjeGOd1AJPB/Q== =zYWb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Anonymity and cowardice
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed May 14 11:34:45 1997 > The time per year it takes for me to delete all these messages is about > the same as the amount of time it took me to reply to your previous > message plus the amount of time it will now take me to compose this > reply. All back of the envelope, of course. All by choice, which is what we're talking about here.. > I've been on this list for 18 months and have seen plenty of worthwhile > posts from remailers. You're entitled to your opinion, but I strongly > disagree. I guess I'll just never know.. > So you're calling John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton > cowards > (anonymous authors of the Federalist Papers)? Many others have > (also used > anonymity to further the cause of liberty. I doubt your real > name is "The Spectre" yet that is the name under which you are posting. > Are you calling yourself a coward? The difference in all these cases (save mine) is that the people you listed would have been persecuted, if not prosecuted, for their actions. Now people are hiding out of fear and paranoia of something that in most cases doesn't exist. The people you mentioned never had to deal with this level of abuse, either. In my case, it's simply the name i've old my email package to append to my messages. Anyone who really wants to can look me up at any time. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3nbmqAC4xvMjGa1AQHjLAf/QDq9v0zAjQhTLkTC773R6pN3a13z54s+ fsx4wYgg5zsTQhiwAsSs/0ROKQukLY660Yk4dZR8dbhoJKJmWpGKpuiOReP/XDPT jTijALMx31FGd8YdcSJORGPinHeU3MEZ8/ZklSUx2hbtS6/84lGzjZC93sT3xVfa ZA5QY/Z2lv9IS75rOQtIyBSublc7Un/AAs72rqjmq6rXzSp8UCtasAhqPgADSEgu 4A+VAzr8Jfq4mtwhx2W1W6amNTu0oKRSy+PNdCmrkD39+87/CsepDZ+OdnRK/Ebu 7bE7wA1ea6rw6mZg9Msje2M4p58vvomE4Q52iSkreD7CK7d325Baug== =SI22 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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update.321 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From physnews(a)aip.org Wed May 14 13:21:46 1997 Date: Wed, 14 May 97 10:24:01 EDT From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) Message-Id: <9705141424.AA09540(a)aip.org> To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org Subject: update.321 PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News Number 321 May 13, 1997 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein A PHOTON CONVEYOR BELT has been created using sound waves and lasers, bringing about a new method for processing and storing light signals on a chip. In some opto-electronic devices it is desirable to delay or store an optically-encoded message by dispatching it down kilometer-long fiber cul-de-sacs. In a device developed at the University of Munich, the delay can be accomplished more compactly by first converting the light into a splash of excitons (electron-hole pairs) which propagate at a more leisurely pace, the electrons and holes surfing along on different parts of a guiding acoustic wave. Later the electron-hole pairs recombine into photons, which are read out at the other end of the sample. In effect the signal has been converted from a speed-of- light wave into a speed-of-sound wave, and back again. This technique is also a way of prolonging the lifetime of excitons, which typically live for mere nanoseconds before recombining; in this experiment they have now been preserved for microseconds. (C. Rocke et al., Physical Review Letters, 19 May 1997; contact Achim Wixforth, Achim.Wixforth @physik.uni-muenchen.de; animation at www.aip.org/physnews/graphics) THE QUANTUM WAVEFUNCTION OF A MATTER WAVE, the complete mathematical description of a quantum system, has been experimentally reconstructed for the first time. Trapping a single beryllium ion in electric fields, Dietrich Leibfried and his colleagues at NIST created a state in which the ion has exactly one quantum of vibrational energy. Determining the wavefunction, which contains all the knowable information about this system, is difficult because the uncertainty principle says that measuring its position alters its momentum and vice versa. But by preparing the same quantum state 500,000 times and making a different measurement each time, the researchers sidestepped this limitation and reconstructed piecemeal the probability for the ion to have certain values of position and momentum. Known as the Wigner function, this "quasiprobability" distribution can be mathematically transformed into an average quantum wavefunction for the system which, the researchers argue, is nearly identical to the actual wavefunction. The NIST researchers were the first to measure negative Wigner function values for certain coordinates of position and momentum--something that can only happen for quantum systems; this reflects the fact that the system can exist in many states simultaneously. (Physical Review Letters, 18 November 1996.) Subsequently, physicists at the University of Konstanz in Germany measured the Wigner function of a matter wave traveling in free space--a helium atom traversing a pair of slits. (Nature, 13 March; also Science News, March 15.) PHYSICISTS ARE 46 YEARS OLD AND MAKE $65,000 A YEAR. These are median values for a PhD physicist in the U.S. in 1996. Those who work at federal labs made the most (median $78,500), even more than in industry (median $77,000); those at 4-year colleges made the least, with a median of $49,200. Geographically, median salaries ranged from $70,000 (Pacific states) to $56,200 (East South Central). New PhD's earn $31,000 at universties and $39,600 at federal labs. Salaries for female physicists who have earned the PhD in the past 10 years are comparable to salaries for male physicists with similar experience ("Society Membership Survey: Salaries 1996," a report issued in April by the AIP Education and Employment Statistics Division; contact Ray Chu, rchu(a)aip.org)

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Re: Just Say "No" to Congress
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think I'd like to have some voice in who steps up to the bar to fill the power vacuum, though, after the rapid oxidation within the Beltway. At 09:13 AM 5/14/97 -0800, Tim May wrote: >At 9:14 PM -0800 5/13/97, Lucky Green wrote: >>At 12:19 PM 5/11/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >>>You might remember I wrote recently about the DoJ report released this >>>month that calls for new legislation to ban bomb-making info online. Now >>>Feinstein's office tells me she's going to introduce a bill. >> >>Feinswine never saw a gun/mind control bill she didn't like. She is an >>ultra fascist that rose to power thanks to the yellow dog Bay Area voters. >> > >Feinswine/Swinestein is the most despicable of all the politicians in >Congress. (This is not just ideology speaking...her usual-ally Barbara >Boxer is much less swinish, and even has some independent thoughts. I can't >see I often agree with Boxer, but she's not the Big Sister automaton that >Swinestein is.) > >We're basically under assault from all directions. The bozos in Congress >and state governments are spinning out new laws and obscure regulations >faster than we can react...and of course they're using our money to >generate these laws and lobby for them. Further, a mostly-brainwashed >Washington media population is surprising uncritical of these blizzard >drifts of new laws. > >As others have noted, recently James Donald, the lawmakers play the "good >cop, bad cop" game very well. Crypto becomes exportable (good cop), but >only if keys are given to the government (bad cop). Speech is ostensibly >protected by new laws, but new provisions criminalize racist, homophobic, >disrespectful, hurtful, offensive, or unpopular opinions. > >The "there ought to be a law" crowd is in high gear. > >The only proper rebuttal is to reject their view that more laws will fix >the societal ills they perceive. > >Attempting to "work with them" only feeds the good cop/bad cop system, as >the SAFE and Pro-CODE bills show. > >Removing the Washington area as a malignant tumor requiring drastic surgery >remains an option. > >--Tim May > >There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. >Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" >---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- >Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, >tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero >W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, >Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. >"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." > > > > > >

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Re: Fingerprint Stego
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alec wrote: > At 12:37 PM 4/29/97 -0700, Mike Duvos thoughtfully wrote: > |A funny story in last night's Seattle Times... > | > |It seems the INS and FBI are unwilling to grant US citizenship to > |persons without legible fingerprints. > > [snip] > > Fingerprint escrow? > > Does this mean that, ipso facto (I love it), physically challenged > individuals with missing or deformed hands are excluded regardless of other > qualifications? What a monstrosity of a rule! Also, can one have one's citizenship revoked if they lose their fingers in a bizarre chainsaw accident? Or if the "Circle of Eunuchs" performs finger-castration on them because they are caught *fingering* people while they sleep? Why are not alternative methods of identification used, such as placing a tattoo on their arms? Or remove the threat they pose to others, by placing them in camps? Other, more crypto-relevant, concerns arise when one considers whether this fingerprint-anonymity is perhaps a form of biological cryptography. Is the person breaking any laws if their fingers leave the country? Can they be required to cut off one of their fingers and send it to the government under fingerprint-crypto escrow laws? Perhaps we need a "Truth in Spokespersoning" law which would require spokespersons to tell it like it is: "We regret to announce that we cannot allow this person to become a citizen, because we consider citizens to be the property of the state, and we need to be able to identify our property. "Of course, there may be other ways to mark the person for identification by the state, but we are too stupid, anal-retentive and uncaring to concern ourselves with looking into these areas. "Besides, we don't have to. We're the government and we can do whatever silly, stupid, uncaring and unjust things we want to our citizens without suffering any consequences for our actions." FingerMonger

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Policy Post 3.03 - House Subcommittee Approves Internet Privacy Bill
by Alan Davidson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____ _____ _______ / ____| __ \__ __| ____ ___ ____ __ | | | | | | | | / __ \____ / (_)______ __ / __ \____ _____/ /_ | | | | | | | | / /_/ / __ \/ / / ___/ / / / / /_/ / __ \/ ___/ __/ | |____| |__| | | | / ____/ /_/ / / / /__/ /_/ / / ____/ /_/ (__ ) /_ \_____|_____/ |_| /_/ \____/_/_/\___/\__, / /_/ \____/____/\__/ The Center for Democracy and Technology /____/ Volume 3, Number 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A briefing on public policy issues affecting civil liberties online ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CDT POLICY POST Volume 3, Number 1 April 30, 1997 CONTENTS: (1) House Subcommittee Approves SAFE Internet-privacy bill (3) How to Subscribe/Unsubscribe (4) About CDT, contacting us ** This document may be redistributed freely with this banner intact ** Excerpts may be re-posted with permission of <editor(a)cdt.org> ** This document looks best when viewed in COURIER font ** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE APPROVES SAFE INTERNET-PRIVACY BILL The House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts and Intellectual property today approved the Security And Freedom through Encryption (SAFE) act (HR 695), sending the SAFE bill to the full House Judiciary Committee. The SAFE bill was passed by the Subcommittee without amendment and with unanimous approval. A House Judiciary Committee vote on SAFE is expected later this month. Today's vote marks a critical step forward in the ongoing fight to reform US encryption policy, and sends a strong signal to the Clinton Administration that Congress is serious about passing real encryption reform legislation. SAFE, and its companion bills in the Senate (Pro-CODE and ECPA II) are vitally represent the best chance yet of reforming US encryption policy in a way that protects privacy, promotes electronic commerce, and recognize the realities of the global economy. The full text of the SAFE bill, along with analysis and background information, is available online at http://www.cdt.org/crypto or http://www.crypto.com/ The Administration's allies did not introduce amendments to SAFE at the subcommittee markup today, though a tougher fight is expected when the bill reaches the full Judiciary Committee later this month. Rep. Bill McCullom (R-FL), voted in favor of the SAFE but expressed concern that the bill does not contain key-recovery provisions. McCullom, a high ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, said he hopes to address these concerns when the bill reaches the full committee. Also at the markup, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), an original co-sponsor of SAFE, noted that several privacy organizations, including CDT, have raised concerns about a provision of the bill which criminalizes the use of encryption in furtherance of a crime. Rep. Lofgren pledged to work with the privacy community to try and address these concerns as the bill moves through committee. CDT congratulates the subcommittee on today's vote and looks forward to working with the Congress, our colleagues in the civil liberties and Internet advocacy community, and the computer and communications industries to pass real reform of US encryption policy this year. For more information on what you can do to join the fight, please visit http://www.crypto.com/adopt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (2) SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION Be sure you are up to date on the latest public policy issues affecting civil liberties online and how they will affect you! Subscribe to the CDT Policy Post news distribution list. 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The Center's mission is to develop and advocate public policies that advance democratic values and constitutional civil liberties in new computer and communications technologies. Contacting us: General information: info(a)cdt.org World Wide Web: URL:http://www.cdt.org/ FTP URL:ftp://ftp.cdt.org/pub/cdt/ Snail Mail: The Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW * Suite 1100 * Washington, DC 20006 (v) +1.202.637.9800 * (f) +1.202.637.0968 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- End Policy Post 3.03 04/30/97 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Crypto gambling
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It has been brung to my attention that one of the horses running in this Saturday's Kentucky Derby is named Crypto Star. He already won the Louisiana and Arkansas Derbys. Vote Labour!!! --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Data Privacy Laws
by 3umoelle＠informatik.uni-hamburg.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > According to the Registrar's office, anyone who is processing personal > > information, even as little as names and addresses received over the > > Internet, could find themselves facing an unlimited fine in the higher > > courts if they do not register with the Data Protection Registrar. > This is well known to most of us. Still, we periodically get "privacy > advocates" here on this list singing the praises of the various European > "data privacy laws" and urging other nations to adopt the same sorts of > laws. It is worth noting that the "Data Privacy Commissioners" in Germany (equivalent to the British Data Protection Registrar) are beginning to advocate technologies such as anonymous e-cash, pre-paid chipcards, pseudonyms, and of course encryption, rather than more laws.

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Re: Fingerprint Stego
by Robert A. Costner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:04 PM 4/29/97 -0400, Alec wrote: >Does this mean that, ipso facto (I love it), physically challenged >individuals with missing or deformed hands are excluded regardless of other >qualifications? What a monstrosity of a rule! Georgia in fact has a mandated fingerprint requirement for obtaining a driver's license. Practices vary from station to station, but there have been reports of handicapped or others who do not fingerprint properly being denied a driver's license. -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/

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Re: Data Privacy Laws
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:37 PM -0800 4/29/97, Ulf Möller wrote: >> > According to the Registrar's office, anyone who is processing personal >> > information, even as little as names and addresses received over the >> > Internet, could find themselves facing an unlimited fine in the higher >> > courts if they do not register with the Data Protection Registrar. > >> This is well known to most of us. Still, we periodically get "privacy >> advocates" here on this list singing the praises of the various European >> "data privacy laws" and urging other nations to adopt the same sorts of >> laws. > >It is worth noting that the "Data Privacy Commissioners" in Germany >(equivalent to the British Data Protection Registrar) are beginning to >advocate technologies such as anonymous e-cash, pre-paid chipcards, >pseudonyms, and of course encryption, rather than more laws. This is very encouraging, if true. (Not that I doubt Ulf, but one must always be careful in considering the plans and promises of government entities.) It would be especially nice (schon, or schoen--my Mac supports umlauts, of course, but I never try to use them in ASCII posts) if Germany were to abandon its control-freak stance toward the Internet and realize that "the best cure for bad language is more language" and "sunlight is the best disinfectant." (These are both well-known sayings about free speech.) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Rejecting Dialog with Government Vermin
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sure DC is a swamp and NYC is a cesspool, but it's their lakes of shit that keep hungry dogs from the outback coming to feed. To hack politics, spin lies, hawk IPOs and Wall Steal from W&O. Both burgs draw never ending packs to plot the peddling of useless news and armaments and laws and fortune cookies -- all the SOS for which most countries need only one capital hole but for which America needs two to handle demand. In that vein, I bet Declan learns to love Manhattan via Time's irresistable harem and ungents. All journalists, especially those doing duty in DC and CA, aspire to the cessmost of presspools. So, Time-speaking a Declan, I nym drop that Cylink's board dined this evening at the Harvard Club to admire Dr. Leo Guthart hiccuping the joys of bedding and gorging Sodom's delights -- the cost to be written off thanks to DC/NY/CA/AR mutual scratch-fleas legally sanctioned worldwide: the need and deed of two-back gov and biz.

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Citizen Units
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from another mailing list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Seago <itachi(a)crl4.crl.com> To: (distribution deleted) Subject: On The Importance Of "Image" <snip> A few weeks ago one of my dojo students, Rex Biteng, took some photos to be used in an article for a on-line magazine for which Rex writes. The photos featured Rex, another of my students named Robert Candelaria, and a friend of theirs holding some firearms owned (quite legally) by this third party. Rex took the photos to a chain called Costco, which offers a photo developing service (okay, you can see it coming already, right?). Next thing he knows, people at his bank are telling him that police of- ficers have been showing these photos around and asking questions about his financial affairs. According to Rex, before he picked up the devel- oped photos, someone had seen the guns, called the police, and said they had some photos of gang members with guns. Rex asked me whether I thought he should get a lawyer and go after Costco, and my response was "definitely". Rex is in the middle of the hiring process to become an officer with the San Francisco Po- lice Department, and I warned him that this would almost certainly arise and bite him when they got to the background investigation phase. He ultimately decided to drop the matter: figured that he didn't have the money for a lawyer, wasn't interested in creating further problems or getting anyone in trouble, and the police hadn't bothered to con- tact and talk with HIM so apparently the matter had been dropped. Then I received his e-mail message, below: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:22:58 -0800 From: (Rex Biteng) To: dale seago <itachi(a)crl.com> Subject: It happened!!!! Dale, Hows it going there??? Well, let me tell you of the recent drama. Feel free to tell anyone you want. At 0700 this morning the santa rosa pd, rohnert park pd, and the sonoma sherriffs (gang task force) raided Robert and my house simultaneously. It was very depressing. A full swat team with their mp-5's and riot shot-guns compleate with their kevlar helmets, black bdu-s and riot shields put my brother, me, my uncle (who is a retired Philippine Marine officer and saw combat duty during his service), and my old grandfather, in hand-cuffs face down. Let me tell you that it is a very scary feeling to have a mp-5 with the safty off pointed at your back when you are truly innocent. They served me a search warrant and confiscated my brothers telescopic baton, my black ruck-sack which included my black bdu's and my tabi that I use for Bujinkan and a photo album of mine with some of the gun pictures in it. It's funny because in that same albulm I have my Guardian Angel pictures in there plus some pictures of when I was at Airborne school in ft. Benning. I told them the whole story and I even had to explain my bdu's that I use for Bujinkan. The investigator told me 'as if he was a expert in the martial arts' that dosen't your dojo use gi's and have ranking systems. I had to explain that Bujinkan is not a normal style that he was use to. In fact, One of the investigatiors who I will not say, treated me as if I was a dumb unintelligent nit. Trying to make me say things that were not true. I even had to explain about a little ninja dash ornament that Jason and I have in mine and his car. I told them about having an attorney present but he just told me that if i had nothing to hide to tell him the information that I knew. So I told them everything. Apparently, I guess you now have to prove your innocence instead of being innocent untill proven guilty. I don't know how Robert faired because I haven't been able to talk to him yet. But I'll keep you up to date on what happens. Your Bujinkan Warrior, Rex (End of forwarded message) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The following night in the dojo I also was able to get Robert's side of things. Pretty much the same story: They cuffed Robert and told his father and stepmother to get out, at which point Robert's 62-year- old stepmother sort of "lost it" and snapped back to her girlhood in France, when the Nazi soldiers came to her village and behaved the same way. She actually attacked one of these modern ones and knocked the fine German-made HK MP5 submachine gun out of his hands. No firearms were found at either residence, and no one was taken into custody. They tried to question Robert, but he informed them that they were welcome to search for the items specified on the warrant, but that if they found nothing and wished to question him about anything else, they would have to arrest him and take him to the station, whereupon he would answer questions only in the presence of an attorney. What, specifically, were they looking for? Following are ex- tracts from the search warrant: STATE OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY OF SONOMA SEARCH WARRANT PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, to any sheriff, policeman, or peace officer in the County of Sonoma: PROOF, by affidavit, having been made before me by DEPUTY (deleted), SONOMA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, that there is probable cause to believe that the property described herein may be found at the locations set forth herein and that it is seizable pursuant to Penal Code 1524, as indicated below by "X"(s), in that it: (3 of 5 possible choices were "x'd") X was used as the means of committing a felony X is possessed by a person with the intent to use it as a means of committing a public offense or is possessed by another to whom he may have delivered it for the purpose of concealing it or preventing its discovery X is evidence which tends to show that a felony has been committed or a particular person has committed a felony you are therefore COMMANDED TO SEARCH the premises located at and described as: (followed by addresses and descriptions of Rex's & Robert'sresidences and vehicles) and the persons of (followed by Rex's & Robert's names and physical descriptions; and) 3. Subject #3, the person depicted in the attached photographs, should he be present at either location; for the following property: 1. AK-47 variant, 7.62x39 with Choate handguards and thumb hole stock with thirty round magazine. This weapon is defined as an assault weapon by 12276(a)(1) PC, which covers the AK-47 and all of its variants; 2. Chicom SKS, 7.62x39 with folding stock and thirty round de- tachable magazine. This weapon is defined as an assault weapon by 12276 (a)(11) PC, when it has a detachable magazine; 3. Any miscellaneous gun pieces, ammunition, gun cleaning items or kits, holsters, ammunition belts, original box packaging, targets, expended pieces of lead, photographs of firearms or any paper work show- ing the purchase, storage, disposition or dominion or control over any guns, ammunition or any of the above items; 4. Articles of personal property tending to establish the ident- ity of persons in control of any premises, storage areas or containers being searched, such as utility company receipts, rent receipts, charge card receipts, tax receipts, airplane tickets and other receipts, checks, deposit slips, savings account passbooks, passports, drivers licenses, vehicle registrations/titles, land titles, escrow papers, legal docu- ments, Social Security cards, Food Stamps, Medi-Cal cards, insurance bills and/or policies, medical records, prescriptions and prescription bottles, doctor bills, hospital bills, cancelled mail, addressed envel- opes, photographs, weapons with serial numbers, keys and safes; 5. To search and/or seize any and all computer equipment, in- cluding any and all storage media, either hardware or software, located within said residence for evidence relating to this crime; 6. Any and all electronic day planners located within said res- idence for any and all evidence pertaining to this crime; You are authorized to defeat any and all security and/or pass- words; and to SEIZE it if found and bring it forthwith before me, or this court, at the courthouse of this court. (signed by the issuing magistrate) (end of warrant excerpts) The firearms in question, as I mentioned earlier, are actually owned by a friend of Rex's & Robert's in the Sacramento area. Robert told the Naz. . I mean, the Nice Officers who the individual is and where he lives. How did the folks in the Sacramento jurisdiction handle it with this third guy? Couple o' folks came to his house, talked with him, looked at the weapons and determined that they either are not the statutorily defined assault weapons mentioned in the warrant (it IS hard to distinguish a lot of these carbines from each other from a pho- tograph alone); or, if they are the weapons described, they are none- theless legally possessed by the owner. And they left, with no arrest of confiscations. Rex, Robert, and their respective families should at this point (in my humble lay opinion) have excellent cases against both Costco (for slander and defamation; also for loss of future income in Rex's case if the San Francisco Police Department now refuses to hire him) and (at least) the Sonoma County Sheriff's department. An important as- pect of self-defense (and of ninpo, for that matter) is to have the right sorts of connections to get things done, and I've contacted an attorney who is interested in looking into the matter. For the record: Yes, I most certainly WILL "go to war", metaphorically speaking, for my people. Regards, Dale Seago ======================================================================

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Re: Rejecting Dialog with Government Vermin
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: > So, Time-speaking a Declan, I nym drop that Cylink's board dined > this evening at the Harvard Club to admire Dr. Leo Guthart hiccuping > the joys of bedding and gorging Sodom's delights -- the cost to be > written off thanks to DC/NY/CA/AR mutual scratch-fleas legally > sanctioned worldwide: the need and deed of two-back gov and biz. John's getting better drugs than I am. TruthMonger

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Re: Citizen Units
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > These no-knock dawn raids are becoming de rigeur. I'm surprised Jim Bell > was raided at the late hour of 9 a.m. I'm also somewhat surprised there was > no gunfire at his house. They were waiting for the Search Warrant to be signed, to make sure they had their asses covered. The fact that it was dated on March 28 (?) means little. Judges regularly predate warrants upon the basis of a need to protect sources. Most court systems leave a few document numbers free each day for future predating of warrants, affadavits, etc. Judges and JP's have many legal requirements to meet in most procedures, ones which they totally ignore for the most part, yet I have yet to see any lawyer challenge the sloppy bullshit that stems from their failure to follow proper judicial procedure in the behind-the-scenes paperwork. The bottom line is that even the best of lawyers fear judges that they know they will have to face again, and they don't want every court ruling to go against them for the next ten years. TruthMonger

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Data Privacy Laws
by Hodge Podge 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ulf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= (3umoelle(a)informatik.uni-hamburg.de) wrote: >It is worth noting that the "Data Privacy Commissioners" in Germany >(equivalent to the British Data Protection Registrar) are beginning to >advocate technologies such as anonymous e-cash, pre-paid chipcards, >pseudonyms, and of course encryption, rather than more laws. But according to alt.security.pgp (4/28/97): BONN, Germany (Reuter) -- A German cabinet minister called Monday for increased efforts to fight crime on the Internet and demanded that cyber-sheriffs have keys to unlock coded messages. Interior Minister Manfred Kanther told a conference ....."The technical and organizational competence of agencies charged with fighting computer crime must be strengthened." "The criminals are hiding in the anonymity of the networks, wiping their electronic tracks." Kanther said. So clearly the government disagrees. -- HP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Charset: noconv iQDzAwUBM2dBN7mgWaN4MfkFAQGN2gbwkqnKKh5GpM79icxPEiybj//h46tWIZGc Wn4eOrQZ2WKtCvAmR+vHR8/jKAV+MbcR4NKovfxNxN9aA0iyWu/AW+5lWyMyXenr 01zx+MmNFR6HG7ESXikiNMiyJyXL3iKCF3vP5lrQlZaa82sQSRauAqBuu0JahFO2 qmfPO+/bmvKI8BQS/NEIbut+U8O7rOKddsdIWzQ4FanM1q+cb9C7aV6/Fvk7yTeK IuTCyI5oTi4GLBCZ5fqwDscHp1V0HlsU7WXcC7d4t04EisyQSoFEnEgZp8j1M+JP MNfnJIx2 =//r6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Test, Ignore
by root 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ZKP
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Fw: ZKP
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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