December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Civil Disobediance
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 16 May 1997, tzeruch(a)ceddec.com wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: >> "All that matters is how we die: shall we offer our bodies >> helplessly, like cattle, to the knife, or, refusing passively to >> await the end shall we turn the strength of our anger to one last >> battle, til, daring and doing, we fall, drenched with their blood, >> amongst the heaped bodies and weapons of our dying enemies?" -- >> Livy Book XXV > > They couldn't move with their wealth out of the way, so the > alternatives were limited. The passage above appears in the discussion of the betrayal to the Carthaginians of the Roman commander Gracchus by his "friend" Flavus Gracchus makes this declaration to his men before they fought their enemies to the death. The protection of personal wealth was only weakly connected with the events described. Dr. Roberts

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Re: Civil Disobediance
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 15 May 1997, Adam Back wrote: >Dr Roberts writes: >> Perhaps there is a way to turn the training on the trainers? Civil >> disobediance is the best way to do this. Were a relatively small >> number of people, a thousand for instance, to post the "RSA in 3 >> lines" code to the world, it would be highly unlikely that anybody >> at all would be prosecuted, > Many 1000s of people have exported it. This was a step in the right direction. The response of the USG has been to pretend it isn't happening. However, if 1000 people announced publically and openly that on a certain date they were all going to post it to this and similar lists, it would have a strong political impact, particularly if followed regularly by longer works of mathematics. Of course, if the "RSA in 3 lines" posting is considered a done deal, it may be time to move on to longer postings. The fact is the USG has been reluctant to make any overt moves. Instead, they have tried to quietly put in "the crypto fix" without making too many waves. Over and over again we have seen their lack of confidence in their ability to get away with making some math illegal. It may be the case that a number of mass postings of mathematics, which anybody can look at and see to be harmless, is all that it will take to finish off the whole ridiculous scheme. Simple ridicule has its value, but what I intend is the use of organized civil disobediance as a political action, and one which is almost impossible for thugs to respond to, particularly in time of peace. The nice thing about this form of civil disobediance is that it occurs on the Net in the most public way so that it will be very difficult for the newspapers to misrepresent what is going on. > Well, it does seem to me at times that people in the US are being > too timid about the whole situation. I mean if everyone just openly > ignored the stupid laws, you might think they would go away by > default, just to catch up with reality. Ironically, the very people who lay awake at night worrying about whether factoring is hard are the least likely to take risks! > Much hand-wringing is spent putting no-export warnings on code, > obfuscating the download process to discourage non-US people, and > warning others not to export. Nobody wants to be the first one to cross the line and be arrested. Fortunately, posting is easy and anybody can participate. Nobody has to be (in any meaningful way) the first to go. There is simply no way that the government will be able to lock up 1000s of professors, grad students, businessmen, programmers, or politicians for sharing mathematics when in the consensual hallucination we call the news, the country is being overrun by violent criminals. Maybe July 4 would be a good date? Dr. Roberts

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Re: Martin Hannigan Pervert Pedophile
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

kibo <kibo(a)thecia.net> writes: ... > > > That's not as misguided as it seems. Common carriers are regulated > > > heavily, and many ISPs don't generally seek that regulation. > > > > > That is a telephone type of "common carrier." but anybody with a > "common carrier status" is not going to get regulated. All it means > is a hands-off approach to users postings. > > Even for a death threat, I will not terminate any user, because > the law is not mine to enforce. And this "copyright" shit is the > same argument. SPA needs to be attacked and undermined. The ISP cannot determine that a particular patterns of 1's and 0's constitutes a "death threat" and/or a "copyright violation". --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor, In a message dated 97-05-17 01:04:54 EDT, you write: << Thank you VERY MUCH for releasing the source code. This shows that you are serious about your program and truly appreciate how important is the process of review as far as your credibility is concerned. I have downloaded your code and looked at it. Looks rather interesting (especially the part below). What I did not understand, however, is what is SetVal and how it works. Also, I was not clear how you set variables AE1, AE2, ..., AE10 and so on. As far as I understand, you use these variables to select the particular encryption method. Do you normally select only one method on some random basis or you use several passes? Also, some may be interested to look at this particular encryption method (I added some indentation and comments for readability). I believe that it is not particularly strong. >> Hi. Thanks for taking a look at the source code. Actually, SetVal is just a name used for many parameters of functions and procedures within VSACM. The documentation of VSACM V2.0 describes what SetVal represents in each function or procedure. Attached to this message is the help file of VSACM. As for the AE1, AE2, etc. variables, they're set with the VSACMSetEnableTC1001, VSACMSetEnableTC1002, etc. procedures. If you take a look at VSACMProcessOperation function in LibUnit.pas and the Internal function in IntUnit.pas, you'll notice how relatively uncomplex algorithm extensions are combined to form a powerful algorithm. The procedure TC1001 (in StdUnit.pas) you mentioned is basically a pseudo-random byte XORer. TC1001 is NEVER used as the sole encryptor of a file. You'll also notice that, at a minimum, single passes of TC1001, TC2005, TC1005, TC3001, TC3004, and TC3005 are used to encrypt/decrypt a file. No, an algorithm extension is not chosen randomly. Some of the procedures are "scramblers". Others are "incrementors". Others are "avalanchers". Again, it is best to analyze VSACM as a whole in a systematical (chronological) manner instead of analyzing each procedure of function in each source code file one by one. By the way, what do you think of the key hashing procedure (VSACMSetKey) and the memory deallocation and destruction procedure (VSACMInitialize) and the masking tables in IntUnit.pas? Did you find any "backdoors" or ways to hack a decryption date or time lock applied to a file without applying the correct key? (There aren't any). How about any flaws? Also, for others who may be reading this, if you still think VSA2048 is still a "flawed" or "crappy" or "sucky" or "snake-oiled" encryption algorithm, why don't you PROVE it by cracking the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/breakit.dat (if you are in the U.S.)?!?! (All words, no action!!!) Well? The file was encrypted using a 120-bit VSA2048 key. The key isn't even 128 bits in length! I don't know about you, but I would think VSA2048 is pretty good if not even one cypherpunk out there can decrypt the message. As for my previous line about the decryption contest being limited to the cypherpunks (@toad.com), I have changed my mind. The contest is open to any person (in the United States). I will post contest details to cypherpunks(a)toad.com again. I appreciate the comments. Thanks. Regards, Jeremy Yu-Ramos DataET Research

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 97-05-17 13:37:36 EDT, you write: << why don't you PROVE it by cracking the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/breakit.dat >> It's "crackit.dat". Sorry.

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dhp.com is blocked by CyberSitter
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A note for those of you who use dhp.com. dhp.com is on the blocked list for CyberSitter. Don't bother complaining to Brian Milburn (pres. of solid oak, makers of CyberSitter) about it. He is notorious for throwing temper tantrums at anyone questioning his judgement. --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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PGP 5.0 beta is out at PGP.com
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only. PGPKeys.exe pukes its guts out when run. (At least on my machine.) It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist. The splash page looks interesting. Nice if the rest would run... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEUAwUBM337SeQCP3v30CeZAQHrIwf3bwkNKXwDPb5R2qLMneIIWBTfYvwAGCQ6 8xqd0BHSsD+7ZzF4u9iVZWV9sHN/62LxAo886FfDP7PtKG+JZrZCa+KOUj2Zw3qk 1wltug8/rylAoLHulXwFVfwWb001jMIsS5RYNqDLqyccVF2TWUbVKQEgH7EI9VJ3 EU8gZzHF61ok+bqacmV/r7ANoIdfFRvLZHm0iGo6Xm4xHz8lw2JzDWWvnhWnEquD mf3XUaNRVYnI4/+kgs8fx5golMY3pPQrl6PR0XdvvLJITUhiqM3SVTDs9IL4hWAx V7WWGPHaJZw6nVAl5LNbLK9puGFw0FMap1a6Ld+HnmRlxlgpr8B/ =gdHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by JKYuRamos＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 97-05-16 20:58:27 EDT, you write: << no insults or bashing, i promise the use of the built-in Random function looks scary. my five minute overview of the code may have missed some cleverness (or i may have missed your own implementation of Random). i am not a cryptographer, and can't comment much more on the actual encryption algorithms you're using from an engineering standpoint: i assume that you stripped the comments out before posting the source from a legal standpoint: you should probably yank the source code off of your site. i am not a lawyer, but making this stuff downloadable from outside the US is risky >> Hi. Sorry, actually, I regret that the code was developed with no inline comments. Yes, you probably did skim over some essential code. Also, again, the pseudo-random number generator is NOT the only method used to encrypt a file. In fact, the pseudo-random number generator code could have been left out to some extent. I have also specified that that no one who is not in the U.S. may access the source code, but if no one cracks the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/crackit.dat by June 20th, 1997, I'll have to assume that VSA2048 is an extremely secure encryption algorithm, and I will consider having the source code removed from the site. Regards, Jeremy Yu-Ramos DataET Research Host: DataET Research (http://www.dataet.com) Contest expiration date: June 20th, 1997 Encrypted file location: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/crackit.dat Applied encryption algorithm: VSA2048 Encryption algorithm source code: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/ Applied key size: 120 bits (15 bytes) Encrypted (secured) file size: 836 bytes Decrypted (unsecured) file size: 836 bytes Hints: No message hints available Key and message post location: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Contact: info(a)dataet.com Limitations: U.S. residents only Prize: FREE basic Web site package & apology posted to cypherpunks(a)toad.com & discontinuation of VSA2048-based products CRACKIT.DAT file statistics: Type: Binary (Intel) Characters: 836 Mode: 179 Mean: 127 Median (middle character, no order): 3

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DCSB: Fred Hapgood on the Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Fred Hapgood "The Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator" Tuesday, June 3, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Price, Including Luncheon: $30.00 The low transaction costs and interactivity of the internet are proving a highly favorable incubator for auction pricing. In April Yahoo reported 60+ sites supporting online auctions with more appearing every day. The largest of these hosted more than 50,000 individual auctions (not individual items) simultaneously and was growing at 25% a month. Online auction sites appear to be the only indigenous internet service that is a) generating profits of any scale and b) respectable. Fred will describe how these auctions work, some of their varieties, what they are selling, analyze the online auction site as a business model, review recent developments, and weigh the odds that online auctions will be associated with changes of interest in the structure of the economy and the culture. Fred Hapgood, <http://www.pobox.com/~hapgood>, is a free-lance writer based in Boston. While he often writes about aspects of electronic commerce, that being where the market is, he promises creditworthy clients an attentive and positive hearing to any proposition legal in at least one jurisdiction. Last year he spoke before the DCSB on franchising and the internet. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, June 3, 1997, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $30.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, various A/V hardware, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men (and no sneakers or jeans), and "appropriate business attire" (whatever that means), for women. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your lunch if the Club finds you in violation of the dress code. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, May 31, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $30.00. If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: July Win Treese TLS, Digital Commerce, and Export Issues August Duncan Frissell MarketEarth September Christof Paar Elliptic Curve Cryptography October Peter Cassidy Military Fiat and Digital Commerce November Carl Ellison Identity and Certification for Electronic Commerce We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com> . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM34DRMUCGwxmWcHhAQEgRwf+NMnjays51ipVI2DUkN7641PAGn21PWLI CdvLO8TbbXJu6KNcjw/E3fsz+j+ykiYZJl4liiNI7XUC3aB58QbKIHMouM09jIjA VrPaqGP5EL9DjGh+ZHl7qm/SuuP8a6tAfEWkxCHb6Z+X0ezWipziD+3S4PEe5wcd LLW7SRMvWxzVjDKfeokCZL3e43o4xfzNDPBStxVGvONC73A+FMDLWRFxcCJ1o4iX n9fevJuymUf1itZps2ZsK6eU1dXbcXgaX8326OkjBHvGg3IIF0lARKRpPlMVCWxG BCwpKsP/vkzw97+QuhOJJIg5fq0uXqXAADDOwS6SSwt3oCp6cuBcog== =DaZq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo WORLD navbar Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros World banner Alan Greenspan. Is he the man with the golden touch? rule usa.nightmare --From Danish newspaper Ekstrabladet DENMARK: U.S. OFFICIALS OVER-REACTED OVER BABY May 17, 1997 Web posted at: 1:33 p.m. EDT (1733 GMT) restaurant COPENHAGEN, Denmark (Reuter) -- Denmark's foreign minister said Saturday that a Danish mother had been foolish to leave her baby daughter outside a New York restaurant, but U.S. authorities who jailed her for two days had over-reacted. Danish newspapers ran front-page pictures of actress Annette Sorensen and 14-month-old daughter Liv after a New York City judge Friday dropped criminal charges against the mother. "USA Nightmare over - Free," Ekstrabladet's headline read."We Won," crowed rival tabloid B.T. reunion Sorensen was jailed for two days last weekend and her baby put into foster care for four days. She had left Liv parked in a stroller outside a restaurant while she and the child's American father were having a drink and watching her through the window. "It was rash of the mother to leave her child in an American city. It is not clever but is perhaps excusable because she was not really aware of the danger," Foreign Minister Niels Helveg Petersen told B.T. "But the American authorities over-reacted because this was not a case of a mother who could be accused of neglecting her child, it's completely out of proportion," he added. Ekstrabladet quoted Sorensen, 30, as saying that she bore no animosity over the affair. denmark "I'm not quite myself again yet, but I am not bitter toward the United States (although) I honestly can't say if I will ever come back again," she told the paper, holding Liv in her arms, at a champagne celebration in New York's Danish Seamen's Church. Under terms of the deal reached before Judge Michael Gross by her attorney, the Manhattan District Attorney and the Danish Consulate, the criminal charges of endangering the welfare of a child were dismissed and the case will be closed for good in six months. "It is our belief that this was a clash of cultures and a lack of understanding," her attorney Todd Barnet said. The mother's lawyers said that she did not think twice about leaving the child outside the restaurant because it was common practice in Copenhagen. Sorensen still must appear in Family Court Wednesday but B.T. quoted a lawyer for the Danish Consulate in New York, Peter Hessellund-Jensen, as saying that he foresaw no problems. "I am convinced that the hearing is only a formality," he said. Sorensen's attorney says she has a plane ticket to leave the United States May 27. She had been in the country less than 48 hours when her daughter was taken from her. Copyright 1997 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. rule Related stories: * Charges against Danish mother effectively dropped - May 16, 1997 * Women charged with leaving baby outside while dining in restaurant - May 13, 1997 * New York returns baby to Danish mother - May 13, 1997 rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards Tell us what you think! You said it... [INLINE] Alan Greenspan. Is he the man with the golden touch? rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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From the orphan folder
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sometimes one finds amazing stuff in the orphan folder. What the heck is "industry.dm.com"? All the boxes in the dm.com domain have Russian names. Must be a typo. Moral: use PGP. >From ktinkler(a)spartan.ac.BrockU.CA Fri May 16 16:15:33 1997 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 16 May 97 20:07:27 EDT for ktinkler(a)spartan.ac.BrockU.CA Received: from [139.57.65.3] by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA06518 for tartar(a)industry.dm.com; Fri, 16 May 97 16:15:33 -0400 Received: from [139.57.144.207] by spartan.ac.BrockU.CA via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for <tartar(a)industry.dm.com> id QAA24126; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:14:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:14:31 -0400 Message-Id: <v01510109afa2380c5080(a)[139.57.144.207]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="========================_19208278==_" To: tartar(a)industry.dm.com From: ktinkler(a)spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Keith Tinkler) Subject: trying your address --========================_19208278==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable problem I was sorry to lose you just as you were getting your clitoris out and into view - I presume the network daemons got you? In any case I was going to ask you to rub it hard to an orgasm while we were in dcc and thought about the cyber caning I gave you and the real one I would like to give you. So, I hope you took it upon yourself to do that anyway. What sort of cane was it? - thick (less liable to break skin) - long - that your friend used? If we meet ever - maybe I will write a story - have you read it as I described - and cane you hard for infractions. After each stroke you will get a minute to recover equilibrium - then its open season on your rump again (you have no idea how perfectly delicious your bottom sounds to me!). Mind you it isn't punishment for a masochist!!! But we would both enjoy it. It was wonderful to discover someone as open and willing as you were - there seem to be a number of closet masochists on the spanking channels! but many are very prissy and don't want sex with their spanking - woe betide you if you touch their privates - or even allude to them or the aromas arising. Its hard to remember now - that I "took you" over from Spandex... (or whatever his name was). I think you don't mind exhibitionism either? There is only room for one story in this email - I have found attachements - even text ones - get garbled more and more these days. I'd rather dcc but that fell through today. However, I have attached another text file - try to open it and let me know if you can. Critical ********************* The lady is for caning If you were here with me now this is what I'd do. After dark you'd strip in the house. Slightly heeled sandals. Its a warm night. I'd walk you down through the woods which compose most of our lot, 200 yards with a flickering torch playing its narrow yellow beam on your pale nakedness, to the path that runs by the river. We'd walk along that to a secluded glade 400 yards away. There is plenty of light from the urban lights reflected from the clouds, and enough wind in the trees to swallow noises. Along the way you would select a suitable willow from a fresh stand. Strip it with my pocket knife. Test it for sound and flexibility. Pronouce it ideal. We walk, I test it. I watch your nervous walk. Your bottom has a mind of its own. Here we are. A fallen trunk, stripped bare of bark, a fitting match for you. Tied to it. Along it. A long strap round the trunk and your waist. Wrists bound above your head, along the trunk. Legs slightly apart, either side of the trunk, tied to pegs already hammered in the ground. Bottom pristine, pouch dampening, what a sight, what a precious moment of truth: for you - the audacious submission of your body; - for me the enjoyment of the fragile perfection of its contours. There is no hurry. The Lady is for caning. Hard and slowly. Perhaps even harder, and even more slowly. But not yet. I want to see you moving from the sheer thought of it. Of what is coming. For long minutes I caress your torso, stroking with the cane. Trailing the tip along the backbone. Teasing the cleft of your bottom, between your legs, the insides of your thighs. .... Another time you will strapped down on your back, with your legs wide, wide apart. Those adorable inner thighs. Buts that to be another time, another time ... another place. Back to work. I must touch you with my fingers. My finger indents the line of a cane print across that round offering. Its drying. I rewet it. That is where the first one will come. I whisper that. A conspiratorial whisper. A secret between you and me. Perhaps you will be able to remember that. A memorable place. The crease. Where lovers spank hardest lest lovers forget the hardness of their love. You'll remember five in the crease. Each time you sit. I mention this, another secret. In the next few days the heat will get to you. The heat of the climate, the heat of the cane. You'll want to sit and drink in the air conditioning. A short skimpy dress. No pants, no bra. Proud nipples, stiff in the cool air. A blazing seat on cool vinyl seats. Every move an echo of agony. I'm getting to you for I see you squirming. Its a rhythm I recognize. The way the buttocks move. The undulation. Someone is feeling sexy. Yes, my fingers wet. Smear it along the crease. Remember the crease? Whats coming there? I ask you. You do remember, I can see that. Good, good. Your memory was something that needed working on. You didn't say as much, but I could see. And your aversion to cock-sucking was another. But lets not get distracted. I can see you still remember about the crease. It seems to interest you. Time to reinforce the learning. No time like the present. ONE....FIVE. All in the crease. Just one mark. That waist strap works well, your waist is tight, your bottom mobile, very mobile and perfectly tempting. And now ..... TEN ... FIFTEEN ... TWENTY ....and so on. Hard, very hard. The wind carries the noises, various away (or are you better trained now?) Well-spaced in time so the pain can build to a crescendo. And you'll like the pattern, all over your bottom. Quite fussy about that aren't you? You won't know the final count. You never do, do you? Not unless I tell you. Quite right. I'd be at fault if you did. You're sobbing just a little. Come, its over, sweet cane lover. I kiss the crests of your printed cheeks and untie you. A pained walk, my arm round your bare waist. Our other hands clasped tightly. Just a long minute along the crunchy path I turn us about, pivoting on my left leg. I can feel you quivering with real terror, quivering with the horror of anticipation as I walk you back to that trunk. Astride it again. Tied just as tightly. This time your arms down, tied underneath the trunk. Posterior blazing. Now it is about to explode. I stroke the curves with the cane. Ripples of fire shiver that taut derri=E8re. Do you remember the crease? Don't worry I shall remind you. Splash. Some cooling water. And now, time for ignition. You know exactly where. You haven't forgotten. ONE. A very satisfying shriek. AM I hard. I walk round and show it to you. You don't like to suck cocks I remember. I shouldn't dream of forcing you. I'm not like that. TWO. Ohhhh, the obvious agony. Your pussy is wet, I can see the glistening outer folds. Your cheeks are very splayed, it shows prettily, but those cheeks are full enough to protect it. I get behind you and just touch the sopping lips with myself, rubbing along the slot. My tip, the bulging hood, is soaking. I get off and go round to show you. I know you're distracted. I tell you it is your own juice. I think you know, but you ARE very distracted, eyes wet, your chest heaving as well as it can against the old bare log. It must be rough on those delicious B-cup globes I adore. A little squashed and aching I imagine. Reminder time. THREE in the crease. And to be sure you remember, =46OUR. I dip my chip again at leisure, a little deeper, and show it you again. I AM very thoughtful. I believe I saw a flicker of interest. Academic of course for you don't suck cocks. Your dip on my stick. The things people do. But back to basics. You ARE such a purist - restraint, a bare bottom, a hand-picked rattling cane, and the decisions left to me. Back again to pain of the cane. FIVE. Your posterial agility in restraint is amazing. The rising wind swallows your high pitched comments and cools your bottom. SIX. Another very deep dip, and my you are hot inside. And wet. I display it to you again. This time so close you could ... my goodness you do!!! And I thought you didn't like ....? I love it of course, and I soon show you I do. Ahh, that surprised you a little. If you are nauseated it doesn't show. BUT I'm almost forgetting, I'd hate you to think I was too distracted to provide your needs, SO, now thats over, back to basics. SEVERAL MORE, slowly and frightenly crisp, because the Lady, what a lady, IS for caning. The cane lover is untied again. 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[ADMINISTRATIVIUM] Zero-knowledge interactive proofs
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim Mayflower's 16Kb brain's single convolution is directly wired to his rectum for input and his T1 mouth for output. That's 16K bits, not bytes. Anal intercourse has caused extensive brain damage. \|||/ (o o) -ooO-(_)-Ooo- Tim Mayflower

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[Fwd: ITAR / S 1726 / Civil Disobedience] (fwd)
by cpunks＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Forwarded message from Toto ----- >From cpunks(a)manifold.algebra.com Fri May 16 06:20:38 1997 Message-ID: <337C3D50.1B50(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 04:56:16 -0600 From: Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Reply-To: toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca Organization: TOTO Enterprises X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gomez(a)BASISinc.com Subject: [Fwd: ITAR / S 1726 / Civil Disobedience] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------62391A621C0B" Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------62391A621C0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/ "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld "The Final Frontier" http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/carljohn/ --------------62391A621C0B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from online.offshore.com.ai (online.offshore.com.ai [206.48.59.106]) by orion.sk.sympatico.ca with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA18333 for <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca>; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:31:04 -0600 (CST) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by online.offshore.com.ai (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA02624; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:42:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199705160942.FAA02624(a)online.offshore.com.ai> X-Authentication-Warning: online.offshore.com.ai: httpd set sender to toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca using -f From: "C.J. Parker" <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> To: president(a)whitehouse.gov, toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca Date: Fri May 16 5:42:13 1997 Subject: ITAR / S 1726 / Civil Disobedience Dear Mr. President, I am writing to express my disapproval of the Clinton Administration's position on the ITAR restrictions for encryption software. This is an important issue to me. 1) Software is writing, so it is protected by the first amendment, so the ITAR is unconstitutional. The idea that only paper books are first amendment protected, and electronic books are not, is just plain wrong. 2) The ITAR does not help National Security, but in fact greatly reduces our nations security because the Internet, and the computers and information connected to it, are kept from using good Encryption. 3) I feel that encryption is very important for doing commerce on the Internet, and that commerce on the Internet is important for our economy (Internet is the fastest growing sizable segment). You say you like the "Information Super Highway" and you are "going to focus on the economy like a laser". You should be removing the ITAR restrictions on American businesses. Otherwise the business for commerce software will go to companies in other countries. 4) The Clinton Clipper III proposal to have government key escrow is not acceptable. Also, it will never work, since people will always be able to buy and use software from the rest of the world. This proposal is just slowing down Internet progress. Please cancel Clipper III. 5) Please support Senator Burns Pro-CODE bill S 1726 that would end this foolishness. Or better yet, just take software off the list of "munitions". The current law, (see http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/22/2778.html) says that "The President shall periodically review the items on the United States Munitions List to determine what items, if any, no longer warrant export controls under this section. The results of such reviews shall be reported to the Speaker of the House [...] at least 30 days before any item is removed from the Munitions List [...]." 5) As an act of civil disobedience I have personally exported an encryption program (it is 3 lines of writing) using the web page at http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ Yours sincerely, C.J. Parker toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca Sent from host lohner20.sk.sympatico.ca with IP 142.165.98.20 --------------62391A621C0B-- ----- End of forwarded message from Toto -----

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Re: Distributing cryptographic code
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This thread was booted from coderpunks, perhaps the interested parties will continue it here. At 02:36 PM 5/16/97 EDT, Yoav Yerushalmi wrote: [...] > I'm part of a research group here at MIT, and several groups here >have written implementations of concepts and protocols that involve >cryptography in one way or another (encryption/signing/voting, etc). > > We would like to put this code up for distribution (within the US >of course), but don't actually know what is a 'reasonable' amount of >protection that one need apply to prevent people from exporting >it to the rest of the world. If I were you, I'd talk to the other folks at MIT distributing strong crypto code, they've certainly had to think about/work on this problem. Might as well ride on their coattails. Having said that, you might take a look at 15 CFR 734.2(b)(9)(ii) if you're really feeling masochistic, which says that making software available via the Internet such that it is available for transfer outside of the United States is an export unless the person making the software available takes certain precautions. The precautions are: >>>> (A) Ensuring that the facility from which the software is available controls the access to and transfers of such software through such measures as: (1) The access control system, either through automated means or human intervention, checks the address of every system requesting or receiving a transfer and verifies that such systems are located within the United States; (2) The access control system, provides every requesting or receiving party with notice that the transfer includes or would include cryptographic software subject to export controls under the Export Administration Act, and that anyone receiving such a transfer cannot export the software without a license; and (3) Every party requesting or receiving a transfer of such software must acknowledge affirmatively that he or she understands that the cryptographic software is subject to export controls under the Export Administration Act and that anyone receiving the transfer cannot export the software without a license; or (B) Taking other precautions, approved in writing by the Bureau of Export Administration, to prevent transfer of such software outside the U.S. without a license. <<<< The software publishers I'm familiar with who make strong crypto available via the Internet in a commercial setting (Microsoft, Netscape, C2Net) do reverse-DNS lookups on the requester to try to figure out whether or not they're inside the United States. This is *not* an "official" answer, nor is it legal advice. The regulations discussed above have been public for less than five months. I've spoken with several attorneys who specialize in export control and they've all commented that the regs were drafted quickly, without good attention to detail, and are not necessarily models of clarity or precision. Nobody's 100% sure what they mean. Also, one person commented within the coderpunks thread: >>>> A disclaimer would be adeqate protection if I remember correctly. I don`t recall what the situation is in the US, is it the case that the provider of the information is guilty of export, or the person that actually downloads it, if it is available via anonymous FTP??? <<<< A disclaimer is not good enough. Both are potentially liable under US law (modulo arguments about constitutionality, vagueness, etc). The downloader is guilty of an illegal export, and the person who made the software available is (using the definition in 15 CFR 734.2) guilty of an export, and also has potential liability for conspiracy and/or aiding and abetting, depending on the facts of the particular case. But a clerk in Egghead who sells a copy of 128-bit Netscape to a "foreign person" is also guilty of an export violation. The interesting question is whether or not the feds will choose to prosecute violators .. and which ones. Internet crypto distribution sites have a much higher profile than random minimum-wage clerks who wouldn't have violated the law if they'd had any clue it existed. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto.

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MULTOS announcement from MasterCard --- FYI
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: davidk(a)air.com X-Sender: saguaro(a)pop.tiac.net (Unverified) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 16:56:13 -0400 To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: MULTOS announcement from MasterCard --- FYI Mime-Version: 1.0 MasterCard launches global smart card platform Date: 97-05-15 16:38:28 EDT From: AOL News NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 15, 1997-- Platform provides MasterCard member financial institutions with complete solution in migrating to chip-based payment products MasterCard International today became the first payments brand to begin implementing a complete solution for making the widespread use of smart cards a marketplace reality by the new millennium. By embracing a new open-platform technology called MULTOS as its smart card operating platform, MasterCard member banks will now have access to an unprecedented technology that will enable a single smart card to support a number of different products, securely and independently. The MULTOS (multi-application operating system) technology, which was announced today by eight of the leading silicon manufacturers and smart card companies from the United States, Europe, Asia and Australia uses the proven Mondex security architecture which allows applications to be dynamically and securely loaded onto a smart card. With MULTOS, not only can members load applications when the card is issued, but cardholders will be able to load or change applications after the card has been issued by going on-line to the card issuer, via telephone, the ATM or across the Internet. This allows applications and security upgrades to be introduced without reissuing cards, and for cardholders to "customize" their card with the applications they choose. Paired with the MULTOS technology is a MasterCard migration plan that gives financial institutions around the world the flexibility to enter into the smart card arena when it's right for their markets and their businesses. Together, MULTOS and the MasterCard migration plan support a wide range of implementation schemes -- from the most comprehensive to the most modest -- ensuring that member banks can bring smart cards to market in a way that is useful for the cardholder and profitable for the bank. "The business case for smart cards varies among markets and countries, and so the key to a successful migration from magnetic stripe cards to smart cards is flexibility," said MasterCard President and CEO Robert W. Selander. "In our migration strategy we have a flexible approach that lets every member move to smart cards at a time and pace that is best for their business. And in MULTOS we have a superior technology that is `future-friendly.' MULTOS will enable our members to embrace smart card technology, and at the same time, give them the confidence that today's investment will not be obsolete tomorrow. By incorporating MULTOS technology into our smart card migration strategy, we are offering our members the only complete smart card solution available today," he said. "As an open-technology platform, we support the flexibility MULTOS offers, and realize that by investing in MULTOS, we are investing in the future of the industry," said Dudley Nigg, executive vice president, Online Financial Services for Wells Fargo Bank. "It also enables us to truly differentiate ourselves by the types of services we provide our cardholders." G. Henry Mundt III, MasterCard executive vice president, Global Deposit Access, said the MULTOS technology offers distinct benefits to members that other operating systems cannot. "Unlike other chip delivery platforms in the marketplace today, MULTOS provides our members with multiple sources of interoperable cards - eliminating any risk associated with being locked into a single silicon supplier or card manufacturer." Mundt, who oversees MasterCard's smart card business, also explained how members can use MULTOS to differentiate their services to their cardholders. "What a MULTOS-based card becomes to the cardholder is a lifestyle card, allowing the consumer to include the standard applications of credit and debit, along with other personally selected applications such as Mondex electronic cash, an airline loyalty program and a transit pass. The ability for our members to meet their cardholders' changing needs by adding or deleting card applications that can be tailored in real time, through the telephone, an ATM or across the Internet, is bringing the future of money to life for the consumer, now," he added. MasterCard's global smart card strategy incorporates the following features and deliverables: -- A set of product specifications and associated applications, which will include MasterCard credit and debit, and Mondex electronic cash, that can be combined with member proprietary programs. Specifications will be available in the third quarter of this year, and applications will be available in the first quarter of 1998. The MULTOS API (application program interface) specifications will be available in the third quarter of 1997. -- The most advanced open-technology platform, introduced on a non-proprietary "open systems" basis to enable it to be used as a standard across various industries interested in using smart cards, such as finance, retail, travel and telecommunications. MULTOS technology will enable a single smart card to support a number of different products, securely and independently. MULTOS applications will need to be written only once and are compatible with any MULTOS card, regardless of which company has manufactured the card or which silicon chip is used. Applications on the card are kept totally separate and independent by highly secure "firewalls." -- A support infrastructure to ensure global acceptance of smart cards. Revised rules and operating procedures for MasterCard members will be available later this year. -- A range of application development tools and protocols will be provided in the third quarter 1997, to enable application developers to produce products for MULTOS. -- Compliance with industry standards: MULTOS is entirely compatible with the EMV '96 standards related to integrated circuit cards for payment systems created by Europay, MasterCard and Visa. MasterCard credit and debit products implemented on MULTOS for the first quarter 1998 will be fully EMV compliant. "MULTOS allows MasterCard and Mondex members to combine, for example, the Mondex purse with their own products and services on a single card - while being assured that the security and integrity of each product or application is guaranteed by the firewalls that are a unique feature of MULTOS," said Mondex President Michael Keegan. "This is a great step forward for the financial services industry. This means that, for the first time, card issuers can use the security, reliability and flexibility of the smart card to deliver a range of products and services to their customers - securely and economically, allowing the consumer to carry fewer, more useful cards." MasterCard International, a payments company with one of the world's most recognized brands, is dedicated to helping more than 23,000 financial institutions around the world offer consumers a variety of payment options. MasterCard remains focused on helping shape the future of money by expanding acceptance of its global brands (MasterCard(R), Maestro(R) and Cirrus(R), the world's largest ATM network; MasterCard also owns 51 per cent of electronic cash leader Mondex International) and maintaining reliable, secure networks facilitating global value exchange. MasterCard has 400 million credit and debit cards that are accepted at more than 13 million acceptance locations worldwide. In 1996, gross dollar volume generated exceeded $550 billion. MasterCard can be reached through its World Wide Web site at http://www.mastercard.com . -0- Note: On Thursday, May 15 at 9 a.m. EST, MasterCard's long-term chip card strategy and the MULTOS technology will be announced during a teleconference call. Participants can join the call by dialing 800-553-0272 in the U.S. and 612- 332-0523 outside the U.S. MasterCard Launches Global Smart Card Platform May 15, 1997 CONTACT: MasterCard International Marianne Fulgenzi, 914/249-5443 Julie Jacobs, Shandwick, 212/309-0620 --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Hacked, Trashed and Out of Beer
by se7en 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, I finally managed to catch up on all the email from this list, and managed to also get all of the hacked web sites thus far up on my web page at http://www.dis.org/se7en which includes: Amnesty International Central Intelligence Agency East Timor, Indonesia Kriegsman Fur NASA U.K. Labour Party U.S. Air Force U.S. Department of Justice se7en

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referers and W3 (fwd)
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A friend who webmasters a large site that is implementing referer-specific content sent me this when I mentioned the cpunks/cryptography thread of a few months back. I basically agree with the W3C. While user education on the potential privacy threat is essential, I do not believe that Netscape should violate published technical standards. There are also privacy and property issues from the server's perspective. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: referers and W3 The following text was added to W3's page on HTML on May 8. If nobody else has noticed this, you might wish to share it with the cypherpunks, I don't know. HTML, Hypertext Links and Referer URLs In a vacuum, semantically neutral technology attracts meaning. If neutral technology is useful, commerce -- abhorring a vacuum -- uses technology in often-unforeseen ways to build new markets. Over the past year we have seen attempts to create meaning for HTML references where none existed before. Links have been argued to mean revenue streams, approval, a source of liability, endorsement, and ownership. The Web depends on hypertext links between resources. Links can act as references, or to embed material, both of which are concepts that have been around for a long long time. Whats new with the Web is the ability to follow links quickly. When a user clicks on a link, the URL of the page containing the link is passed to the server along with the requested URL. This gives Web sites the opportunity to customize the response according to the page the user clicked on. If someone jumps into a Web site without entering via the home page, a content provider may choose to turn them away or to redirect them to the home page. A smarter Web site could use partial string matches on the Referer and Requested URLs to customize the page it returns. One reason for doing this is to ensure visitors see the banner ads and promotions, a site is using to create revenue; another is to avoid broken links when people (or indexing engines) bookmark transitory Web pages. The Referer URL can also be used to determine how to honor requests for images or applets. For instance, you might decide to only provide images to sites which have signed a license agreement with you. http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/

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Re: dhp.com is blocked by CyberSitter
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Um... Who worth talking to isn't? I have repeatedly requested that they block comp.os.ms-windows.announce and stanford.edu because we allow content they might find objectionable, but Milburn has REFUSED to do so. "We don't block sites just because some guy say so." He's bouncing all subsequent requet from me to block my own web site to my postmaster, i.e., me. I still think a counter-blocking approach is appropriate. If you run a popular web site, make it inaccessible to CyberSitter users. It's easy: <META NAME="Voluntary Content Rating" CONTENT="adult"> CyberSitter is the only program that understands "the VCR standard." -rich http://www.stanford.edu/~llurch/

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Do You Accept Credit Cards?
by Tony Glavin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I was boing a search of web sites that were selling a product or service, and your web site popped up. If this message has been sent to you by mistake, I apologize. If you are selling a product or service and would like to accept credit cards inexpensively, we have a complete program for you: Application Fee: $75, refundable if declined Discount Rate: Around 2% Transaction Fee: 30 cents Monthly Minimum Billing Fee: NONE Monthly Statement Fee: NONE Processing Software: $395 This software lets you submit the transactions to the credit card processor. It is the same product that others are charging $995 for or leasing for $39 per month on a 48 month lease. You will be able to accept all major credit cards, even if you are selling over the Internet. You will experience an increase of sales as prospects see you as more credible if you accept credit cards. If you have any questions about accepting credit cards, please send them via email to: mailto:glavin@best-solutions.com Thanks for your time.

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Re: PGP 5.0 beta is out at PGP.com
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > More than that, did they decide to release the source code? > Last I heard, the answer was "of course not!!!!" I recently heard from a PGP employee that they plan to release ALL source code, including non-crypto code.

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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declaration of Digital Independence ------------------------------------- We, the computer-literate and technologically superior, in order to break the ignorant chains of those who hold us back, do hereby declare our freedom from those who control what they do not understand. We wish to no longer hear the cries of "pornography-superhighway" and "cyber-patrol". We reject the repulsive nonsense shoved down our throats by all forms of media telling of the dangers of piracy, pornography, and in general, free thought. There are no "cyber-molesters" we cannot stop as a people. If you educate your children like the good parent you should be, they should know what is right and what is wrong, and will be wise, young judges, with free thought and judgement. We cannot simply "block" what we find offensive, on the net, on bulletin boards, and as we all know, in real life. We must learn to deal with the "day to day inadequacies" of life, and we must not simply become mindless drones of those that fight to restrict freedom. We must fight even harder than they, and we must fight to stay free, or all right is lost. If it's not worth fighting for, then you have already been brainwashed. The internet (NOT info-superhighway, or i-way, as those terms are simply insulting and degrading, made up by the ignorant) cannot and SHOULD NOT be regulated. It should be allowed to make it's own rules. It is bigger than any world you can and can't imagine, and it will not be controlled. It is the embodiment of all that is free; free information, friendship, alliances, materials, ideas, suggestions, news, and more. The "Cyber-Angels" are only well-meaning do-gooders with nothing better to do than to "tattle" on those with different ideas than they. They use entrapment, and have twisted their ideas and values to make them apply to cyberspace, trying to rule an area they do not understand. Fighting for the freedom to think is good, but to fight for an idea you believe is the only true idea is itself ignorance. The nazis believed that they were superior, in ideas and actions, and the "Cyber Angels" are nothing more. You cannot stop freedom of thought, and they try anyway, to convert anyone and everyone to their mode of thought. But those of us who see clearly know that the internet is the greatest invention ever, topping the telephone and electricity. It is a gathering of the mental body of billions of people, and we will not be stopped. The media, as it is known, is the propaganda vending machine of today. As a whole, they trip over themselves, feeding lies to the ignorant, and we who are not will watch too, to laugh at the stupidity that is the media. We sit in front of our televisions, or listening to the radio, or looking at a newspaper or a magazine, and we laugh. We laugh and laugh, because the media has become a ridiculous pool of lies and half-truths. They say we're more dangerous than sicknesses, and nuclear weapons, because we choose to laugh at their ideas and boundaries, and we fight to expand them. We laugh at the pitiful security devices used to keep knowledge from spreading, and we rip down the beaurocratic bullshit tape they put up in virtual doorways. We call the boards they show on the news, covered in ideas and values different than theirs, and we like it. We like asking for a computer program that we never would have bought, and having it show up in our mailboxes. We like leaving messages on BBS' containing information on how to blow up a building or how to kill a man with your bare hands. We like it, not because it scares people or because it's "twisted" or "evil", but because it's forbidden, and lost. You do not know what a "redbox" is? Come, friend, and I will spread the lost knowledge. And when I tell you, you will tell another, and we will be held together by the knowledge which we "should not know". We are the illuminati, and the enlightened. We look not to the old sciences of textbook learning, but to the primitive ways, of communication and experience. We are sickened by the unenlightened. We despise those who wish not to learn, and those who read the same books, over and over again, under different names, believing that they are learning. We are the "different", and the "abnormal", those who are sometimes disliked because we regurgitate the lies fed to us by the governing. Everyone has the need to know, the curiosity of the caveman who invented fire, but some have been trained like monkeys, not ever knowing it's there. They simply accept things, and do what is expected of them, and this is sad. They are those who never fight back, and never open their minds. And they are, unfortunately, usually the governing bodies; the teachers, bosses, police, federal agents, congressmen, senators, parents, and more. And this, my friend, must change. We will not be "voted out", and we will not be mentally disfigured. If they had the chance, government and the media would give everyone a virtual labotamy. Our minds to be held in chains, forced to take in what is given. This is unacceptable. We will not be held down, by the ignorant, the foolish, and especially the lazy. We take your textbooks and your lies, and we put them back in the dusty storerooms where they belong. And we share ideas, and make new ones, and sometimes ask for a hand to hold, and not one around our throat. We see what no others can, and what no others want to see. It is a technological revolution, and a revolution of ideas. We will fight in battles for our freedom to think, should there be any, but we will not start any. We are not a violent group, but our opposition believes ideas should not be let loose to grow, and they will begin the battle. They have no honor, stealing from us our rights, our liberty, and our freedom of thought. And for this, we label them unforgiven... - Anarchy, and the AoC...

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Re: Distributing cryptographic code
by iang＠cs.berkeley.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <3.0.1.32.19970517183655.00867d60(a)mail.io.com>, Greg Broiles <gbroiles(a)netbox.com> wrote: >But a clerk in Egghead who sells a copy of 128-bit Netscape to a "foreign >person" is also guilty of an export violation. Not the way I read the regs (IANAL)... 734.2(b) provides a completely different definition of "export" for encryption software ((b)(9) instead of (b)(2)(ii)). - Ian 734.2(b): (b) Export and reexport--(1) Definition of export. ``Export'' means an actual shipment or transmission of items subject to the EAR out of the United States, or release of technology or software subject to the EAR to a foreign national in the United States, as described in paragraph (b)(2)(ii) of this section. See part 772 of the EAR for the definition that applies to exports of satellites subject to the EAR. See paragraph (b)(9) of this section for the definition that applies to exports of encryption source code and object code software subject to the EAR. (2) Export of technology or software. (See paragraph (b)(9) for provisions that apply to encryption source code and object code software.) ``Export'' of technology or software, excluding encryption software subject to ``EI'' controls, includes: <snip, irrelevant to EI> 734.2(b)(9): (9) Export of encryption source code and object code software. (i) For purposes of the EAR, the export of encryption source code and object code software means: (A) An actual shipment, transfer, or transmission out of the United States (see also paragraph (b)(9)(ii) of this section); or (B) A transfer of such software in the United States to an embassy or affiliate of a foreign country. (ii) The export of encryption source code and object code software controlled for EI reasons under ECCN 5D002 on the Commerce Control List (see Supplement No. 1 to part 774 of the EAR) includes downloading, or causing the downloading of, such software to locations (including electronic bulletin boards, Internet file transfer protocol, and World Wide Web sites) outside the U.S., or making such software available for transfer outside the United States, over wire, cable, radio, electromagnetic, photooptical, photoelectric or other comparable communications facilities accessible to persons outside the United States, including transfers from electronic bulletin boards, Internet file transfer protocol and World Wide Web sites, unless the person making the software available takes precautions adequate to prevent unauthorized transfer of such code outside the United States. Such precautions shall include: <snip; this part was in the previous note> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM38TokZRiTErSPb1AQHZJgP/aFc77erbX8CTK5dKDOskMas5eqHPTj36 VkALz17gkkZLbOs8jafc/hCVRgAC5wiF29CLE33XX2Ngvb8O98mwQFFGnJaUj0+9 70Q7fuKKvjvo19V+yPWVw/Q9ZJR4uA+qpIyyIZf28HIn+949Mpyq75eOs686se3t AX5q7acfjJc= =7kz4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Free Subscription
by 22232323＠earthlink.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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