December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by 77574525＠msn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DON NOT CLICK REPLY, IT WILL NOT WORK, USE LINKS LISTED BELOW IN MESSAGE Natural gas futures contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) have hit record high levels for the past two years in the winter months. But why? The answer lies in the simple economic principle of supply and demand. Winter brings with it colder temperatures and an increased demand for Natural Gas. Also, "just-in-time" inventory management practices have been adopted widely in the energy industry. Corporate attempts to cut costs of stockpiling have led to lower supplies. That was the past; what does the future hold? No one can answer that question with absolute certainty. However, key indicators appear to be pointing to another significant move in the price of Natural Gas going into the winter months. First, demand for Natural Gas has been increased by the U.S. adding over 1.5 million new Natural Gas heating units in 1996. Second, the American Gas Association reported that supplies in underground storage are only at 38% of the total nationwide capacity. Illustrating the point made earlier about the Corporations trying to keep costs of stockpiling low to possibly boost earnings for stockholders. What is the profit potential? An investment of $5,000 and a $.50 realized gain in the value of your Natural Gas options could return as much $25,000. How realistic is it that the price of Natural Gas will move $.50? The average seasonal price increase over the last seven years of trading Natural Gas futures contracts has been $1.44. The smallest seasonal move was $.51 and the largest move $2.86. How do I receive my free information on the Natural Gas and other futures markets? Very easily; just send an email to nmp123(a)lostvegas.com including : *Name *Address *Phone *Best time to call (No packages can be sent without this information and please place Natural Gas in the subject or body of the message.) A Series-3 registered broker will call to confirm the request for information. All brokers are registered with and regulated by the National Futures Assoc.(NFA) and the Commodities Futures Trading Commission(CFTC). Please only serious inquiries. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. You could lose part or all of your investment. However, when purchasing options your risk is predetermined to the amount you invest. Commissions and fees will impact the total amount returned to the client. Options do not move dollar for dollar with the underlying futures contract until expiration date. If you would like to be removed from our mailing list please send an email to: nmp123(a)lostvegas.com. Please place remove in the subject or body of the letter.

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Re: Degaussing
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> That reminds me... I have some old drives I need to take down to the > shooting range. (I want to make them an example to the other drives...) > > Sounds like a Cypherpunk project to me. ]:> Unerased data is a cancer! Only 50 Megatons of nuclear disinfectant can cure it! Lock and load!

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AAAS Anonymity Project
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:32:01 -0400 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: EGEHMAN <egehman(a)AAAS.ORG> Subject: AAAS Anonymity Project To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM The Scientific Freedom, Responsibility, and Law Program of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) is conducting an on-line survey to learn more about the uses of anonymity and pseudonymity on the Internet. The survey, together with a series of focus group meetings and an invitational conference, is part of a project being funded by the National Science Foundation. The project will generate a set of criteria describing the contexts in which anonymous and pseudonymous communications are desirable, permissible, or undesirable, and a set of guidelines for the use of anonymous and pseudonymous communications in those situations where their use is to be encouraged or at least tolerated. Please visit the Project website to learn more about this timely project and tell us about your experiences with anonymity or pseudonymity: http://www.aaas.org/spp/anon. Founded in 1848, the AAAS is a nonprofit scientific society dedicated to the advancement of scientific and technological excellence, and to the public's understanding of science and technology. AAAS is the world's largest federation of scientific and engineering societies, with nearly 300 affiliates. In addition, AAAS has a membership of more than 143,000 scientists, engineers, science educators, policymakers, and interested citizens dedicated to scientific and technological progress in service to society. AAAS is the publisher of the prestigious, peer-reviewed, weekly journal, SCIENCE. Project on Anonymous Communications on the Internet Directorate for Science & Policy Programs American Association for the Advancement of Science 1200 New York Avenue, NW, Washington, DC, 20005 Tel: 202 326 6600 Fax: 202 289 4950 E-mail: anonspp(a)aaas.org URL: http://www.aaas.org/spp/anon --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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by empower＠murlin.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ISP signatures on outgoing mail
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone heard of a proposal for ISPs to automatically sign outgoing mail headers? Problem has been that spammers send email by one path but forge a reply-to or from address at another location. Most recent case is hotmail, which got blocked by netcom over a spam attack. Actually mail didn't come from hotmail, was forged to look like it came from there. Same thing has happened to remailers. They need a standard for which headers to sign, then a dig sig can be included in the headers to check that a message came from where it claims.

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ISP signatures on outgoing mail
by Ryan Anderson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Anonymous wrote: > They need a standard for which headers to sign, then a dig sig can be > included in the headers to check that a message came from where it > claims. this doesn't seem to help solve the problem very much. The way SMTP works right now, spammers can frequently just connect to somebodies SMTP server, drop off a load of e-mail, and let their server handle it. (identical to how the ISPs customers drop off mail) All we get out of this is a way to blame those who sign their mail and get slammed by a spammer. Funny, this wouldn't seem to hurt remailers all that much. You'd basically guarantee that, yes, the mail really did come from the anonymous remailer. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Anderson - <Pug Majere> "Who knows, even the horse might sing" Wayne State University - CULMA "May you live in interesting times.." randerso(a)ece.eng.wayne.edu Ohio = VYI of the USA PGP Fingerprint - 7E 8E C6 54 96 AC D9 57 E4 F8 AE 9C 10 7E 78 C9 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: PGP security problems?
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <33BBCB54.2781(a)ai.mit.edu>, on 07/03/97 at 11:55 AM, Hallam-Baker <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> said: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 >Robert A. Costner wrote: >> >> At 01:18 AM 7/3/97 EST, Carolyn Turbyfill (probably didn't) write: >> >The email forgeries using bogus PGP keys to give the appearance >> >that the messages are from PGP, Inc. and our employees are the >> >result of a sick, twisted mind. >> >> While a keyserver with no authentication has a very low barrier to entry >> for false authentication, the barrier is not that much higher for even a >> Verisign class three verification. I've continually said that the biggest >> problem with secure authentication is that secure authentication is not >> possible. >I don't think thats a reasonable assertion at all. PGP is positing that >they have an online identification technique. Verisign are asserting they >have performed a particular identification process and suggest that it is >sufficient for a particular purpose: >http://www.verisign.com/pr/pr_idfct.htm >Class 3 Digital IDs > Require personal presence or registered credentials > Used for e-banking, large-sum transactions and contract execution > Cost: $24/year for individuals, $290/year for entities/web servers >($75 per > year renewal) >If you are a bank or company that needs to depend on an identity inthis >circumastance the critical point is that you have a standardized level of >security. >In electronic commerce it is rarely the case that one needs to reduce >risk to zero. The question is whether you can quantify the risk you are >exposed to. Whether you can insure it. >> I hate to see people doing such things with keyservers and keys, but we all >> knew the problem existed. I wonder where the solution is. >The solution is to put trust attributes in the certificates. If you do an >email callback you state that that is the identification process you >used in the cert. >Two years back it would make sense to upgrade PGP certs to work in this >way. At this point however X.509v3 has become the standard, the most >commonly available form of email encryption is S/MIME which is built into >the default operating system from next year and comes with Communicator. >X509v3 may not be perfect but its there, it works and you can carry the >same information and construct the same trust relationships that PGP >supports. You can also construct other relationships. Looking at the >practice of using X509v3 with Outlook Express I found that the actual >mechanics of use were remarkably similar to PGP except that it was easy >to add in an entire trust domain such as my employer. >At this point I'm somewhat skeptical that a single vendor proprietary >solution should receive unquestioned support from cypherpunks on the >basis of history alone. The question is how to put cryptography on every >desk top on the planet. Bill Gates is a better aly in that fight than >Phil Z. >I think its rather silly for people to start complaining on this list >about the bad, bad, hackers. If we could trust people to be good we would >not need certificates or computer security at all. Making unspecified and >unsupported allegations against competitors seems to me to be a very bad >idea indeed. Phil what can I say except this is just BULL! Last time I looked the S/MIME & X509 v3 specs were not in a finished state. What I have seen of the specs I do not like. The sepcs are overly complex and fail to offer any added security over what can be obtained using PGP. Then we have GAK directly referenced and supported in the specs: >5.1 Binding Names and Keys >An S/MIME agent or some related administrative utility or function MUST >be capable of generating a certification request given a user's public >key and associated name information. In most cases, the user's public >key/private key pair will be generated simultaneously. However, there >are cases where the keying information may be generated by an external >process (such as when a key pair is generated on a cryptographic token >or by a "key recovery" service). Now lets add to this Netscapes support of weak crypto & their implementation of "policy tokens". Are these really the people you wish to trust with the future of crypto?? Are you willing to condem the world to Win95 & Communicator (2 of the bigest peices of crap I have ever seen passed of as comercial software). Phil Zimmerman has done more for putting STRONG crypto on every desktop than M$,N$,R$A or the rest ever have or ever will. Make no mistakes about it, our goal should be to put STRONG crypto on every desktop not just any weak peice of crap available. Weak crypto is worse than no crypto at all. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM7wJcY9Co1n+aLhhAQHL5AP+LHUhm9qzChoPIfZt3mClFCpk41Byx95D 0o/jxHBgyr1b4Xu96BiZXkNYn5Z/B7pXCyp8j5JU1nHs3een/n+Bg2V3gxZHK5hf dhAGyetvDHq1h9sxXtWi/3kVctJQN0dGH7TT7RRA46pG0CfIdn2LX/DbnI04COcf f3Xp+dve8wY= =PS/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by newlife＠saveself.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Box 1442 Pottsboro, TX 75076 USA ________________________________________________________ CONCLUSION I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that costs me pennies to produce and e-mail. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scheme. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Chain letters are illegal and the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four 4 FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost off about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luck! TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four 4 REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new company. You can use your own name if you desire. 2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. You must remember, your name and address go next to REPORT #1 and the others all move down one, with the fourth one being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain as many e-mail addresses as possible to send until you receive the information on mailing list companies in REPORT #3. 5. Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you send, and the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy the four 4 REPORTS so you are able to send them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! 8. Make certain the letter and reports are neat and legible. YOUR GUARANTEE The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this: you must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. This is a must!!! If you don't within two weeks, e-mail out more programs until you do. Then a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2, if you don't, send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, (take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, because YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000. Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above GUARANTEES-ALL have reached their $50,000 goal. Also, remember, every time your name is moved down the list you are in front of a different REPORT, so you can keep track of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!! REMEMBER: "HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED NOT HOPE FOR ANYTHING." "INVEST A LITTLE TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY NOW OR SEARCH FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE." </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3>

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MASS E-MAIL
by jay0070＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Do you have information you want to distribute to thousands of people, or a product you want to offer to a lot of people quickly? Look no more. I will send you electronically 2,500,000 E-mail addresses. That is 2.5 MILLION!!!!!!!!!!! You can cut and paste the addresses to your mail server and save them for later. Just write up what you want to say, click send, and within minutes you will reach 1000000's of people. For $20 I will give you 2.5 million addresses for you to use to market your product or service cost efficiently, and directions on how to do it. send your E-mail address and $$ to: Mr. Hammond P.O. Box 8022 Burlington, VT 05401 I update the addresses monthly...SATISFACTION GUARANTEED

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Re: Jeff's Side of the Story.
by hedges＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jeff wrote at some unknown date and time: > The right to anonymity in the US will be legislated away within 18 months, > partially because of spam. I do hope there's a _good_ test case waiting, > and someone willing to fight it to the end, but I have my doubts. Ultimately > the remailer network will be forced to move offshore, the way Crypto > development currently has. I'm not sure this is true, Jeff. As we saw with the CDA, what the legislature and executives may do under the gun of popular opinion and funding pressure is not always constitutional. There are precedents for anonymity, from the time when the Federalist Papers were published anonymously to now. If you like examine Talley v. California and McIntyre v. Ohio Campaign Commission, both cases in which the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the right to anonymity. As you may know an injunction was issued against the Georgia (U.S.) State against their anti-anonymity law. I neglected to post the URL's in the newsgroups: www.epic.org/free_speech/. >From the legal precedents it does not appear the right to anonymity is in any immediate jeopardy, though fire-consumed politicians may push bill after bill into the courts to push personal culpability for transmission of information. Eventually, with enough case precedent blocking them every time, legislature will learn that it is futile to pass an anti-anonymity law, regardless of whether the individual legislators think it is right or wrong. The real danger is what you encountered---self styled vigilante enforcers of narrow-minded selfish pride---people who just can't stand to be told that they're losers, whether they are or not. Public defamation using anonymity is an interesting issue, and one I'm not prepared to take a stand on. Does anyone have commentary? Mark Hedges "First you learn you can only know nothing, then you learn that everything is just a good idea."

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NOISE jamming...
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Schear wrote : > > A single jammer is an easy target but multiple coordinated jammers are a > different story. My group did some work at TRW on this. Suffice it to say > that just a few well coordinted jammers can make DFing even with satellite > systems very, very, hard. There is quite a bit of emitter location technology around, including much designed to work from airborne platforms that would likely be deployed as soon as possible. Seen from the air coordinated jammers would likely be widely separted spacially even if they weren't as seen from the DSN antenna. And an airborne platform can get very much closer to one emitter (where its signal predominates) than others making separating its energy from the rest much easier. But yes, a very sophisticated jamming effort sync'd up with GPS timing and using multiple sites would be something that undoubtably would knock out a station for a while as countermeasures to such an attack are not part of operational plans for civilian science research ground sites. But many of those sites have several dishes of various sizes with feeds at the downlink frequency and a dish with 50 or 60 db of gain and tenth of a degree beamwidth would do fairly well at isolating a single jammer azimuth and elevation by searching for and pointing right at it. Perhaps it even would be possible to use two dishes separted by enough distance to trianglulate. > > > > > But most of the time Mars is visible from more than one DSN > >earth station and given the high priority of the mission the most > >likely thing would just be to switch stations to one a third of > >the way around the globe or more. Would obviously be a nuisance > >and get some people very mad, but since the ground stations fail > >from natural causes from time to time such a handover would be > >fairly routine. > > Which means you'd need to jam all the stations as they came into view. > Certainly not the work of a lone hacker. Hell if you are dead set at disrupting more or less pure science (mixed with a bit of budget sales pitch) why not rent a Rider truck loaded with ANFO ? or a HERF device ? or simply start shooting at the antenna with a heavy gauge machine gun ? Or to be subtler and more stealthy, cut the fiber optic telco cables connecting the site with the NASA network using nothing more than a ordinary shovel and a bolt cutter in some out of the way spot. Many cable routes are well marked... and you could dress up as the gas company or water and sewer department and nobody would think twice about seeing you dig a hole by the side of the road. > > Yep, I just thought they might employ FH to avoid the odd noise blips from > terrestrial sources (even with reservation of the bands), although SS > usually increases front-end bandwidth and lowers sensitivity, > selectivity, etc. With link margins already low it probably doen't pay. > Hopping no, But they have sometimes used direct sequence spreading because it supplies a very accurate high resolution ranging yardstick (as in the case of GPS which works exactly that way). > >> > > > And would be spotted almost instantly on spectrum analyzers and > >other monitors. > > They'd certainly see the signal, but as I said above a coordinated attack > from several transmitters can be exceedingly difficult to find, even by > national technical means. Again, there are lots of flying (not orbiting) platforms with various antennas and DF receivers that can do this sort of thing. And they can fly any pattern that might be useful and look for interesting visual, passive IR, and side looking radar observable objects on the ground. Obtaining a rough (degree or so) direction on the jammers would be fairly easy using standard EMI horn and dish antennas or the automated equivalent on military ELINT vehicles unless the jammers were using very many sites closely spaced together and phase and frequency coherent signals from all the sites. And certainly sweeping the horizon with a big dish would likely yield significant location information simply becuase of the very narrow beam width of the dish's main lobe. Dave Emery die(a)die.com Weston, Mass.

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Clinton nixes domestic encryption right
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: tbell(a)cato.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:10:46 -0400 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: "Tom W. Bell" <tbell(a)CATO.ORG> Subject: Re: Clinton nixes domestic encryption right To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM Phill writes: >Stuart Baker claims that Gore is the main administration supporter of GAK. >But others have claimed the exact opposite. I suspect that if Gore really >supported the GAK idea he would do so publically and explicitly, its a vote >winner. For what it's worth, I had dinner Monday with two people from Gore's office and one of Microsoft's officers. The Gore people consistently demanded mandatory key escrow, though they seemed willing to allow private parties to do the job so long as GAK remained an option. The Microsoft person only went so far as to offer to always make key escrow a *feature*, arguing that this would in practice get the administration all the GAK it wants because almost everyone would want to escrow their private keys. The debate unfolded something like this: Gore people: "People using really strong encryption will *want* to escrow their keys. Otherwise, lost keys will result in irretrievably lost data." MS person: "Oh, sure--especially commerical players. But you underestimate the amount of resistance *mandated* escrowing will create. People want to *choose* to escrow. If you let them, they will." Gore people: "Well, if they're going to escrow anyhow, what's the problem with mandating it?" MS person: "You don't get it. Our customers care deeply about their encryption rights, and we want happy customers. If the administration will just back off, it will get what it wants--or, at least, as much as it can at any rate expect." It presented a classic case of cultural conflict--in this case, political cultural confronting commercial culture. Tom W. Bell ----------- tbell(a)cato.org Director, Telecommunications and Technology Studies The Cato Institute --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

News Destination Mars: Special Section 3700 hotels worldwide- click here for immediate on-line reservations Search and Feedback NEWS Passenger dragged half-naked from plane lavatory sues lavatory lawsuit graphic July 3, 1997 Web posted at: 5:07 p.m. EDT (2107 GMT) NEW YORK (AP) -- Caught with his pants down on a trans-Atlanticflight, a New York businessman insists he is innocent. Raviv Laor says he was dragged from the bathroom of an AirFrance plane with his trousers around his ankles and toilet paperin his hand because a flight attendant wrongly thought he wassneaking a smoke. Laor, who says a malfunctioning smoke alarm went off, is suingthe airline for $12 million for his humiliation. He says he went tocourt after failing to get an apology or even a reply from theairline. Air France said Thursday that it was reviewing Laor's allegationsand would "respond in due course in the appropriate forum" afterconducting its own investigation. 'The depth of my embarrassment I cannot begin to describe' The lawsuit, filed last month in Manhattan Supreme Court,asserts that 20 minutes into a flight from Paris to Newark Airporton May 19, crew members broke into the locked lavatory andassaulted Laor. "The crew members then, while Laor was naked from the waistdown, dragged him outside the lavatory, exposing his genitals andother body parts to many seated passengers, both female and male,"the lawsuit said. "I was terrified," said Laor, 28, who owns a computer servicescompany. "My first reaction was 'My God, something must havehappened to the plane.'" "The depth of my embarrassment I cannot begin to describe," hesaid. Laor says he neither smokes nor drinks, and had opted for anonsmoking flight. He said his protestations were answered with a threat that hewould be arrested for arguing with the crew. The flight purser "told me I did not have the right to expectprivacy" and complained that Americans were "always screamingabout their rights," Laor said. "An official apology from Air France would have made adifference, but now too much time has elapsed," Laor says. Copyright 1997 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. rule Note: Pages will open in a new browser window. Related story: * Flight attendant secondhand smoke trial under way - June 2, 1997 Related site: * Air France To Top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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SET and dual use
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Sender: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com Reply-To: ptharrison <ptharrison(a)delphi.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 23:01:00 -0400 From: ptharrison <ptharrison(a)delphi.com> To: Multiple recipients of <e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com> Subject: SET and dual use -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Worldwide Conspiracy of International Bankers is now engaged in an unprecedented attack on the Nation State. Last month, a so-called consortium of very large banks and their lackies the branded credit card companies issued a detailed plan to put strong cryptography into the hands of every statistically creditworthy human being on the planet. In issuing the Secure Electronic Transaction (SET) protocol, this cabal of transnational, stateless seekers of interest income and acquisition discounts have detailed a plan by which every merchant which accepts credit cards, every institution which issues them, and incredibly every individual who posesses them would be able to register and share public keys. Going far beyond the puny efforts of the "cypherpunks" who established primitive pretty good privacy key servers and built a web of trust over the past several years, the International Banking Conspiracy is attempting to set up a gargantuan web of certificate authorities to support individuals and corporations in the publication of their cryptographic identities. The unpatriotic stools of this conspiracy within our own US government are expected to legitimize this unholy plan by permitting the wholesale export of SET-related products under the guise that SET is purely a financial transaction processing system. However, over time it will become clear that this was the beginning of the end. The SET co-conspirators have made it abundantly clear in their specification that the financial security and viability of their entire initiative relies on the absolute privacy of each individual's personal keys. This explicit rejection of the sharing of keys effectively rules out key escrow schemes for SET. After an unprecedented global training excercise, in which the Banking Conspiracy will inculcate the imperative that private keys must NEVER be shared with anyone (or else your credit cards will be cancelled or your merchant status revoked), and after worldwide rollout of products intended to allow secret communications over any network connection including the backbone internet, the public telephone system, radio channels, through corporate and national firewalls, and even by "carrier pigeon" the "consortium" will exend the SET protocol to allow the sending of so-called EDI messages (communications which can be effectively on any topic between any two parties) over the established global secret network. An age of secure private communications will be ushered in. And then...separate SET-protocol webs will be established where the "CAs", "merchants" and "cardholders" are simply pseudonyms for...revolutionary forces intent on trafficing in guns, laundering money and replacing world governments with child pornographers, drugs lords and terrorists. Seemingly innocent browser software installed everywhere will become the tool of evildoers to invisibly conduct their own global conspiracies. Only then, too late, will the Banking Conspiracy realize that they no longer control the planet and that in true Hegelian fashion their great idea contained the seeds of its own destruction. Don't say I didn't warn you! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBM7xnY0Ce79c5xtT7AQHyGgP+OyOzslpIbd98Nx5NyiGmoMpE3DjdZhtT T+MOAx6CLVEd8Bm5xJKEN2v/fZ1QrZeNfOxl1pA5rxXV5bzAFs16nTKIvxFU6iI3 vP2/x7BIW0P75SuCqftCnOotISaN02gvO3Xn+1L3LEJepQ6Aj9C2DoSKE1uzjEy8 WKdfqrG3r5g= =zdfI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------- The e$ lists are brought to you by: Intertrader Ltd: "Digital Money Online" <http://www.intertrader.com/library/DigitalMoneyOnline> Where people, networks and money come together: Consult Hyperion http://www.hyperion.co.uk info(a)hyperion.co.uk Like e$? Help pay for it! <http://www.shipwright.com/beg.html> For e$/e$pam sponsorship, mail Bob: <mailto:rah@shipwright.com> Thanks to the e$ e$lves: Of Counsel: Vinnie Moscaritolo <mailto:vinnie@webstuff.apple.com> (Majordomo)^2: Rachel Willmer<mailto:rachel@intertrader.com> Commermeister: Anthony Templer <mailto:anthony@atanda.com> Interturge: Rodney Thayer <mailto:rodney@sabletech.com> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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e$: $MTP?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Sender: e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com Reply-To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:21:12 -0400 From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: Multiple recipients of <e$(a)thumper.vmeng.com> Subject: e$: $MTP? They've been talking on cypherpunks about various ideas for authenticating the sender of mail, and it brings up something I've been increasing my agit-prop efforts on lately. Unfortunately, the ultimate way for any e-mail authentication scheme to work is for the *whole* message to be signed, headers and all, and then for the sending SMTP server to sign the message passes it on, headers and all, and so forth. The consequences of this approach, in terms of machine resources, not to mention privacy (plus or minus how close you can get to perfect pseudonymity), will probably be excessive. The solution, here, I think, is economic, since this is, at root, an economic problem. It's also one we've talked about here at length on e$. That solution is postage. If you use some kind of hash-collision microcoin protocol like Rivest/Shamir's MicroMint, or the "hash-cash" stuff people have been talking about on cypherpunks, you end up with a completely off-line, extremely small value digital cash system which could be used to pay for stuff like e-mail postage. The only thing you need to do is to encrypt the payment to the $MTP (:-)) machine, which then sends your mail. The only overhead is in handling the money, and, since it's handled offline anyway, the overhead is going to be much less than authenticating signatures either with an internal table, or, worse, in an on-line scheme of some kind. However you do the protocol, you probably want to run it on a sender-pays basis, as that's where all the economic incentive to spam comes from. Actually, now that I think about it, a truly sender-pays system would mean that receiver-collects, and so the *receiving* $MTP machine would be the one which should actually get the money. This is not too far from the idea of getting paid to read mail, which has also been discussed on cypherpunks before. The receiving $MTP machine could even raise or lower its postage price depending on the load at the time, thus auctioning its processing resources to the highest bidder. People like e-mail spammers, needing to send messages to you very cheaply would have to wait until the price comes down. Some of them could wait a very long time. :-). Frankly, I see no other solution to this problem in the long run except for postage, which means it's probably time to start figuring out, in earnest, how to make it all work. Whoever becomes the lowest cost producer of this kind of software stands to make a whole *bunch* of money. Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ ---------- The e$ lists are brought to you by: Intertrader Ltd: "Digital Money Online" <http://www.intertrader.com/library/DigitalMoneyOnline> Where people, networks and money come together: Consult Hyperion http://www.hyperion.co.uk info(a)hyperion.co.uk Like e$? Help pay for it! <http://www.shipwright.com/beg.html> For e$/e$pam sponsorship, mail Bob: <mailto:rah@shipwright.com> Thanks to the e$ e$lves: Of Counsel: Vinnie Moscaritolo <mailto:vinnie@webstuff.apple.com> (Majordomo)^2: Rachel Willmer<mailto:rachel@intertrader.com> Commermeister: Anthony Templer <mailto:anthony@atanda.com> Interturge: Rodney Thayer <mailto:rodney@sabletech.com> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo US navbar Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros Main banner If it's in your head, Okidata puts it on paper. rule GOP: FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD 'SHOCK' FOUNDING FATHERS July 5, 1997 Web posted at: 3:46 p.m. EDT (1946 GMT) Solomon graphic WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The federal government is just too big, taking on things "that would have shocked" the nation's founding fathers, New York Congressman Gerald Solomon said Saturday in the Republican weekly radio address. "The Founding Fathers designed a government with limited and defined powers," Solomon said. "But that idea has been turned on its head." Chief among the government offenses, the congressman said, is an exorbitant tax bill. "What the founding fathers could not even comprehend is the idea of Americans paying more in takes than they do for food and shelter," Solomon said. "Our Republican philosophy is different," he said. "We'd rather shrink the welfare class and put the American dream of financial security and independence within the reach of as many middle class people as possible." The recently passed budget, Solomon said, will accomplish that by offering tax relief to families with children, and those with "oppressive capital gains taxes." "We're not talking millionaires here," he said. "We're talking about people like grandparents who owned a house for years, reared their children in that house and then decades later they want to sell it when it becomes too much of burden." The GOP Tax Relief Act, Solomon said, "will help 2 million older Americans." Other aspects of the tax relief plan will help small business owners -- who may want to pass on the family business to sons and daughters -- by increasing an exemption on estate taxes. Solomon compared the current Republican tax cut to the birth of the United States 221 years ago. "Yes, on July 4, 1776, we won the battle of independence from oppressive taxation and today ... the Republican Congress has just won another battle to restore a larger chunk of that freedom from taxation to you," he said. rule Transcript: * Transcript of Republican weekly radio address - July 5, 1997 Related site: Note: Page will open in a new browser window * House RepublicanLeadership External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. Search for related CNN stories: ________________________________________ ______ [Help] Tip: You can restrict your search to the title of a document. Infoseek grfk Example: title:New Year's Resolutions rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards Tell us what you think! You said it... [INLINE] If it's in your head, Okidata puts it on paper. rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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Crypto Risks and Rewards
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Senators Lott, Burns and Ashcroft discussed encryption policy reform on June 27. The Deschall crack is cited as a risk posed by Admin-McCain-Kerrey limitations. Ashcroft stated: I am privileged to serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee where we will address this issue after the July recess. I pledge to work with members on that Committee and with other interested Senators and the leader to try to move a bill in that committee that will capture the essence of Burns substitute. No nationwide key recovery system, or a new licensing requirement for certificate authorities should be brought to the floor without thorough examination, analysis and understanding. We must further study the impact of these provisions well before this bill is brought to the Senate floor. For full report: http://jya.com/crypto-pr.txt (14K) ---------- The Law Society of England and Wales has published a response to the March DTI risky biz for Trusted Third Parties: http://jya.com/ttp-lawsoc.htm ---------- For the article Robert Hettinga cited by Thomas Vartanian on the risks offering CA services: http://jya.com/ca-risks.htm Recall that Mr. Vartanian provided the NSA paper, "How to Make a Mint, the Cryptography of Electronic Money:" http://jya.com/nsamint.htm

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Re: e$: $MTP? (fwd)
by Ryan Anderson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:45:24 -0400 (edt) From: Ryan Anderson <randerso(a)ece.eng.wayne.edu> To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: Re: e$: $MTP? > Frankly, I see no other solution to this problem in the long run except for > postage, which means it's probably time to start figuring out, in earnest, > how to make it all work. Whoever becomes the lowest cost producer of this > kind of software stands to make a whole *bunch* of money. We still need to work out how to fit mailing lists fit into this without eliminating them entirely. Chargebacks to the subscribers? If this list will work in a proposed plan, I think all the others probably would as well.. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Anderson - <Pug Majere> "Who knows, even the horse might sing" Wayne State University - CULMA "May you live in interesting times.." randerso(a)ece.eng.wayne.edu Ohio = VYI of the USA PGP Fingerprint - 7E 8E C6 54 96 AC D9 57 E4 F8 AE 9C 10 7E 78 C9 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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The walsh report
by Jason William RENNIE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To all aussie cypherpunks out there, I was leafing through the walsh report. I dont follow it all very well. could someone please answer one simple question. The Walsh Report is good for cryptography and its ilk in Australia ?? Yes/No ?? I got the impression it was a yes, but i could be qrong i was just readiong throught the conclusions Jason

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo navigation Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros Tech banner Serving up Internet solutions @ www.wimbledon.org rule GERMANY PASSES WORLD'S FIRST CYBERSPACE LAW graphic July 4, 1997 Web posted at: 4:10 p.m. EDT (2010 GMT) BONN, Germany (AP) -- Germany on Friday became the first country to pass a law regulating the free-wheeling global electronic space of the Internet. Chancellor Helmut Kohl's government says the so-called multimedia law creates legal clarity that will help boost commercialization of cyberspace and combats illegal uses of the Internet such as for pornography. Critics say the law is an example of Germany's urge to regulate and may in fact deter investors in Internet services because it does not state clearly to what extent the providers would be liable for content they don't control. The law gained final approval in the upper house of parliament, the Bundesrat, an unusually swift six months after the government proposed it. It takes effect August 1. "We are entering uncharted territory," said Joerg Appelhans, spokesman for Germany's research and technology ministry. Controversially, the law says online providers can be prosecuted for offering a venue for illegal content if they do so knowingly and it is "technically possible and reasonable" to prevent it. This could apply to forums and similar exchanges offered by online services without direct control over their content. However, "the liability provisions for providers are a big unknown," said Christopher Kuner, an Frankfurt attorney specializing in cyberspace issues. "It leaves a lot of things open." The American Chamber of Commerce in Germany says liability for Internet services will have to be tested by court rulings, which "may cause prudent investors to hesitate." But research and technology minister Juergen Ruettgers said a law was needed, partly to protect German children. "That applies even to a network that knows no national borders," he said. "The Internet is not outside the reach of the law." Copyright 1997 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. rule Related stories: * Countries face cyber-control in their own ways - July 1, 1997 * Supreme Court strikes down Internet smut law - June 26, 1997 Search for related CNN stories: ________________________________________ ______ [Help] Tip: You can restrict your search to the title of a document. Infoseek grfk Example: title:New Year's Resolutions rule Watch these shows on CNN for more sci-tech stories: CNN Computer Connection | Future Watch | Science & Technology Week rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards Tell us what you think! You said it... [INLINE] Serving up Internet solutions @ www.wimbledon.org rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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Fuck the Fourth (and the First, Second....)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vin Suprynowicz wrote: > Most Americans should be ashamed to celebrate the Fourth > Recently, President Clinton's then-Drug Czar, Lee Brown, told me the role > of government is to protect the people from dangers, such as drugs. I > corrected him, saying, "No, the role of government is to protect our > liberties." > > "We'll just have to disagree on that," the president's appointee said. Since the government was incapable of protecting either the people at Waco or those at OKC, then who exactly are they protecting? > The War for American Independence began over unregistered, untaxed guns, > when British forces attempted to seize arsenals of rifles, powder and ball > from the hands of ill-organized Patriot militias in Lexington and Concord. > American civilians shot and killed scores of these government agents as > they marched back to Boston. Are those Minutemen still our heroes? Or do we > now consider them "dangerous terrorists" and "depraved government-haters"? We consider them Branch Davadians. > In "The Federalist" No. 46, James Madison told us we need have no fear of > any federal tyranny ever taking away our rights, arguing that under his > proposed Constitution "the ultimate authority ... resides in the people > alone," and predicting that any usurpation of powers not specifically > delegated would lead to "plans of resistance" and "appeal to a trial of > force." This was before Dan Rather and Kookie Roberts became "the ultimate authority." Since they have to compete with Bart Simpson for ratings, their primary interest is in making sure that the citizens don't "have a cow" during their broadcast. {"Today, all rights and freedoms of the citizens were suspended by Executive Order. And, in the lighter side of the news..." <cut to "cute puppy" story>} > Another prominent federalist, Noah Webster, wrote in 1787: "Before a > standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost > every kingdom in Europe." Adolph Hitler obviously understood what Noah Webster was writing about. If we could get the writings made into a TV movie (or a cartoon), there might be a minute chance to get the American public to understand, as well. > In Phoenix last week, an air conditioner repairman and former Military > Policeman named Chuck Knight was convicted by jurors -- some tearful -- who > said they "had no choice" under the judge's instructions, on a single > federal "conspiracy" count of associating with others who owned automatic > rifles on which they had failed to pay a $200 "transfer tax" -- after a > trial in which defense attorney Ivan Abrams says he was forbidden to bring > up the Second Amendment as a defense. > > Were the Viper Militia readying "plans of resistance," as recommended by > Mr. Madison? Would the Constitution ever have been ratified, had Mr. > Madison and his fellow federalists warned the citizens that such > non-violent preparations would get their weapons seized, and land them in > jail for decades? > > Happy Fourth of July. > > Vin Suprynowicz is the assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas > Review-Journal. Readers may contact him via e-mail at vin(a)lvrj.com. The web > site for the Suprynowicz column is at http://www.nguworld.com/vindex/. Is it still legal to say this stuff? Perhaps we need a new law that... TruthMonger

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