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Usenet Under Siege
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Interesting developments in the election year attempts by New York State Attorney General Dennis Vacco to create legal liability for ISPs over Usenet content, particularly alleged child porn. Over the past few years, a number of national news providers, under pressure from various self-declared "child advocates," have filtered out articles from their feeds whose newsgroup names suggested that depictions of the sexuality of minors were topical. Given that Usenet routes around censorship, that a "newsgroup" is not a tangible entity, but simply one line on a Usenet article which attempts to roughly categorize it, and that the Usenet newsgroup namespace is practically infinite, such attempts to curtail the topics discussed in the worldwide real-time conversation that is Usenet have been laughably unsuccessful. While uncensored Usenet feeds are still the standard most customers demand, this content-based pruning of the daily newsfeed by some ISPs has provided the opportunity for some in law enforcement to characterize uncensored news servers as some sort of outlaw minority. Law enforcement is now trying to use such representations as a pretense to erode the notion that ISPs should enjoy common carrier status for content they do not originate. It therefore came as no surprise when Dennis Vacco, the incumbent New York Attorney General, and an individual who has built his reputation with numerous publicity stunts revolving around sexual vices featuring those under the legal age of majority, seized the news servers of Dreamscape and Buffnet in a highly publicized raid, accompanied by simultaneous press releases and Web pages, announcing that he had broken up an "International Child Pornography Ring." 13 individuals in several countries were also arrested on various possession, trafficking, and promotion charges involving illegal erotica. The fallacies in Vacco's spewage were innumerably large. There was the absurd idea that a running gag in one newsgroup involving a mythical "Pedo University" indicated the existence of a "virtual academic institution devoted to the sexual abuse of children." Vacco also seemed to believe that individual Usenet newsgroups were owned and operated by specific individuals, and that certain newgroups were "providing services" to the aforementioned imaginary academic institution. In reality, no one owns or operates a Usenet newsgroup, and any individual may post anything he likes to any newsgroup at any time, either anonymously, or with identifying information attached. Dennis Vacco's clueless attack on the global Usenet may in fact backfire, as there is presently serious discussion over a possible three day protest, in which all traffic destined for the groups targetted by Vacco will be posted instead to alt.law-enforcement. Vacco's plans to undermine claims of common carrier status for ISP's can be found in his following statements. "Most Internet service providers choose not to carry news groups that cater to the interests of child porn traffickers for obvious reasons. "Those that do are well aware of their nature and purpose, possess the offensive images on their servers, and facilitate the transfer and trading of child pornography." CNET News.com provides the following article by Paul Festa giving further information on the attempts to criminally charge ISPs over Usenet content, available on their web site. ISPs may face charges over child porn By Paul Festa Staff Writer, CNET News.com October 30, 1998, 5:35 p.m. PT A few exerpts... As many as five Internet service providers may face serious legal charges for providing access to newsgroups used by child pornographers in cases that critics are calling election-eve politics. New York Attorney General Dennis Vacco won praise this week for his role in an international crackdown on an online child pornography ring. But critics have accused Vacco, up for reelection Tuesday, of breaking the law and playing politics in probing two New York state ISPs as part of the crackdown and seizing their newsgroup servers. Three more ISPs--two on the West Coast and one in the Midwest--are likely to receive search warrants in coming weeks, the attorney general's office told CNET News.com today. ... Law enforcement officials have not arrested or charged anyone affiliated with the ISPs. But the businesses, which provided access to the newsgroups, are under investigation for what Vacco's office describes as the knowing possession of criminal images. "The servers were confiscated as part of ongoing investigation," said Marc Wurzel, spokesman for the attorney general. "The ISPs were in possession of illegal images of children engaged in sex acts. In both cases, they were forewarned that they were in possession of illegal images." The notification came in the form of an email inquiry sent by an undercover agent. The agent posed as a student wanting to know whether he would run afoul of the law by downloading child pornography he had found through the newsgroups. A third New York ISP, located in Albany, responded to the undercover inquiries by suspending the newsgroups. As a result, that ISP is not under investigation, Wurzel said. ... Coincidentally, Congress recently passed the Child Protection and Sexual Predator Punishment Act, which would make ISPs responsible for turning in their customers. Under that legislation, access providers who fail to report child pornography once they are made aware of it could be fined up to $50,000 for the first violation and up to $100,000 for each subsequent time they fail to contact law enforcement authorities. ... Vacco has pulled ahead in what only a few weeks ago was a tight race for reelection. In a New York Times-CBS poll taken in the first week of October, Republican Vacco and Democratic opponent Eliot Spitzer were statistically tied in their race for the state's top law enforcement spot. According to a Times-CBS poll released this week, Vacco is now ahead, 48 percent to 36 percent, with 14 percent of the voters undecided. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: network computers, web TV, java
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:31 AM 10/31/98 -0800, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: >hi BLANK >a company has a *reponsibility* to its customers. perhaps >you would care to deny that?? gates has a *responsibility* >to his customers. what is that responsibility? to create >products they want. to anticipate their needs. Wrong from go. The company has a responsibility to its owners, the shareholders typically. The customers are responsible to themselves for making the best purchases. Everything falls out of these.

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Privacy International announces Big Brother awards ( forwarded via CFD V2 # 670)
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:39:33 -0600 From: "Timothy Bloedow" <lydia(a)travel-net.com> Subject: Privacy International announces Big Brother awards BBC - October 27, 1998 Sci/Tech Watching Big Brother By Internet Correspondent Chris Nuttall The first annual awards defending the individual's right to privacy have been made at a ceremony in London. The 1998 UK Big Brother Awards were held on the 50th anniversary of the writing of George Orwell's novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four. The pressure group Privacy International announced winners it judged to be the modern-day equivalents of Big Brother in the novel, as well as individuals who had fought to protect privacy, awarding them Winstons, the name of the book's hero. Privacy awards to go global The academics, writers and lawyers who make up Privacy International concentrated their first awards on the UK, but plan to extend them to other countries over the next few years. Hosting the awards, the activist comedian Mark Thomas said eight other countries were interested in holding similar ceremonies next year. The director of Privacy International, Simon Davies, said the time was now right for the awards. "Surveillance has now become an inbuilt component of every piece of information technology on the planet, we've got a long way to go to wind the clock back. I think these awards are the beginning of a movement," he said. And the winners are ... The Big Brothers were given for a number of categories: Corporation: The British firm Procurement Services International received a Big Brother award for selling surveillance equipment to Nigeria, Turkey and Indonesia, three countries whose human rights records have been severely criticised. Local government: Newham Council in London won for using its 140 street cameras and facial-recognition software to try to pick out criminals in crowds. National government: The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) was named a Big Brother over its plans for the police to have access through a third party to the keys to any information sent electronically that was locked by encryption. Product: Software by Harlequin that examines telephone records and is able to compare numbers dialled in order to group users into 'friendship networks' won this category. It avoids the legal requirements needed for phone tapping. Lifetime achievement award: Menwith Hill in Yorkshire, a listening station used by America's National Security Agency and described as the biggest US spy station in the world, won this special award. None of the winners were present to accept their awards. But a video was shown of a receptionist at Newham Council receiving a Big Brother earlier in the day and of several police dragging a Privacy International campaigner out of the DTI's headquarters after he had tried to present it. Winstons were awarded to three individuals, cited for campaigning at Menwith Hill, documenting police surveillance and pursuing a privacy case against a landlord who had installed a two-way mirror in a 19-year-old woman's flat. ? BBC ------------------------------ Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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euclid and terrorism
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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update.400 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:24:37 -0500 (EST) > From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) > Subject: update.400 > PROTONS PERSIST for at least 1.6 x 10^33 years. With few > THE CONDUCTANCE OF A SINGLE MOLECULE has been > measured directly by having the molecule bridge the break in a thin > wire. Scientists at Yale use the wire ends as electrodes for sending > current through a small polymer molecule poised between them. > Previously the electrical properties of single molecules had been > studied, but this was through the use of a probe microscope which > samples the molecule across a vacuum gap. Mark Reed (203-432- > 4300, reed(a)surf.eng.yale.edu) reports that the current-versus-voltage > characteristics of the molecule (important for any potential device > application) resemble those of a quantum dot in that certain electron > energies are preferred over others, in this case because of the internal > energy levels of the molecule itself. (Paper to be presented at the > American Vacuum Society (AVS) meeting in Baltimore, 2-6 > November 1998, website: > http://www.vacuum.org/symposium/program.html) > STACKED ORGANIC LIGHT EMITTING DEVICES (SOLEDs) > produce full color but take up less real estate on a chip than their > planar counterparts which require 3 single-color pixels. This higher > resolution, as well as tunability and good saturation (vivid primary > colors rather than pastels), can now be had with the same voltages > and efficiencies that apply to previous organic displays. Paul > Burrows of Princeton (burrows(a)ee.princeton.edu) believes > computer-sized flat panel displays using SOLEDs will be available > within a few years. Smaller displays such as for cellphones may be > realized even earlier. (Paper at the AVS meeting.) > NANOCOMPUTERS IN A BOTTLE. UCLA scientist James Heath > and his Hewlett Packard collaborators Stan Williams and Phil Kuekes > hope to grow computers in chemical solution by building up arrays of > atoms or molecules (at first in two-dimensional planes but later in > three-dimensional volumes) linked together with tiny wires, perhaps > eventually carbon nanotubes. Such a computer could be tiny (smaller > than a sand grain), energy efficient (10,000 times more so than current > silicon computers), and capable of new tricks, such as being able to > sense and respond to its environment through chemically activated > switches. Implementing a chemically assembled computer will depend > on a high degree of defect tolerance in the wiring, unlike today's > microprocessors which require wiring perfection. Presently the > UCLA-HP group will be doing rudimentary calculations with a > computer including some components at the nano and others at the > micro level. An all-nano computer performing simple computations, > Heath believes, is a couple of years away. Serious applications would > follow years later. Heath (310-825-2836, heath(a)chem.ucla.edu) will > report on nanocomputers at the AVS meeting. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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info PGP from France
by Emilio Oriente 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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IP: Sen. Moynihan Warns of Y2K Catastrophe
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Sen. Moynihan Warns of Y2K Catastrophe Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:42:26 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: http://www.senate.gov/~y2k/statements/100798moynihan.html Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem (Oct. 7). As we wind up the last Year 2000 (Y2K) hearing of this Congress, I would like to commend Senator Bennett and the Special Committee for its work in addressing the computer problem. The Committee has done a fine job in looking at all the aspects of society that the Y2K problem affects: the utilities industry, the heath sector, financial services, transportation, government, and businesses. The Committee should also be applauded for the role it played in formulating and passing S. 2392, The Year 2000 Information and Readiness Disclosure Act. As an original cosponsor of this piece of legislation, I am pleased to see that its enactment is soon at hand. The head of the President's Council on Y2K, John Koskinen, said that passing this bill is one of the most important things that we could do on the Y2K front. I agree. I say well done to the Committee for all of the work it has done in such a short amount of time. It was almost two and a half years ago that I sounded the alarm on the computer problem. On July 31, 1996, I sent President Clinton a letter expressing my views and concerns about Y2K. I warned him of the ``extreme negative economic consequences of the Y2K Time Bomb,'' and suggested that ``a presidential aide be appointed to take responsibility for assuring that all Federal Agencies, including the military, be Y2K compliant by January 1, 1999 [leaving a year for `testing'] and that all commercial and industrial firms doing business with the Federal government must also be compliant by that date.'' January 1, 1999 is quickly approaching. I believe that we have made progress in addressing the computer problem and that the ``Good Samaritan'' legislation will play a significant role in ameliorating this problem. But much work remains to be done. For the next 450 days we must continue to work on this problem with dedication and resolve. Historically, the fin de siecle has caused quite a stir. Until now, however, there has been little factual basis on which doomsayers and apocalyptic fear mongers could spread their gospel. After studying the potential impact of Y2K on the telecommunications industry, health care, economy, and other vital sectors of our lives, I would like to warn that we have cause for fear. For the failure to address the millennium bug could be catastrophic. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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No Subject
by newscaster＠hampton.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

11/02/98 Y2K Solution! 8 Pine Circle Dr., Silicon Valley, Calif. USA OTC Company "TCFG" 21 st. Century Frontier Group has through several members of their administrative research department leaked vital information about their companies efforts. Everyone was tight lipped and interviews were refused, and through un-named sources we have learned that the technology and software solution are in the process of being patented! In over 1640 trials, using various data systems the use of the new technology and software solved the Y2K problem 100% of the time. This small publicly traded company "TCFG" which is just 3 years old is through various sources now negotiating with the "Big Boys"! "TCFG" the letters to look for...

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Kong Re: Using a password as a private key.
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(James - bug report below.) At 07:21 PM 10/29/98 +0100, Anonymous wrote: >What happens if you create another key which signs an existing message, >as was illustrated here recently in the case of Toto's key. Can you >convince Kong that you are the same person who sent the earlier message? No, you can't. I've got some sample Kong documents below. (Be sure to get the US version of Kong from http://catalog.com/jamesd/kong/ rather than the somewhat older version from replay (which you get if you tell James's page you're not a US/Canadian citizen. Some UnAmerican should hack their way through James's protection and update replay's version.)) If you check the signature on a document identical to one you've already got stored, it'll tell you about it, and list all the usernames that have signed that document. When you try to store a second key with the same name as an existing key, it'll tell you that they're different, and let you add a note to the new one. (Unfortunately, it doesn't also let you add a note to the first one; a nice feature change would be to always ask for notation when receiving a new key.) (It's a bit hard to test on one machine, since you tend to step over yourself in the process, but it should work fine in a clean environment, and Kong is very tolerant of having its Kong.mdb file blown away and doesn't even mind some editing using MS Access, though YMMV.) Signed by one key calling itself t3 - note the +Q in the first line -- It's a fnord! Run for your life! --digsig t3 +Q+XF9EiiOOGFa6rYr5QtU2My14/KyO01DHLikYDVv Fy1GfdEmmV07XfX9R3HEOc/BA+ajNa8/MRqDBhE1 4eLHEngilBC2g81hloGGQFmOYd35vQEHKGtBcb4F9 Signed by a different key calling itself t3 - note the H9 in the first line -- It's a different fnord! --digsig t3 H9/V3rBrv7Ha3g0Z1/ywvbHimgezshgcTzSYJxbS4z nCRf3S7brCpkLPzUD+dSFcErPNB+SdrF0q46TZnH 4YHfVOu6q+51iKrRc3ru63qk1wWCR2uR3wCALQRjs Same document as before, signed by the H9 t3 -- It's a fnord! Run for your life! --digsig t3 H9/V3rBrv7Ha3g0Z1/ywvbHimgezshgcTzSYJxbS4z z662iY5op2nMkXrI7nP4A5ehgvaoB5+q5daHbHgl 4NmZf3tZdVcZObpUmovyAeDBMZr1W9t5lDICMJc8b Kong lets you sign a document in different modes - in one mode, the document can't be modified after signing, and in other modes you can change whitespace or linebreaks, making it more tolerant of different email environments. -- This message didn't have any line breaks, and it's in Text mode. --digsig t3 H9/V3rBrv7Ha3g0Z1/ywvbHimgezshgcTzSYJxbS4z aAGTQyJ92R6XeoH7ZTepQ0f79xKddgm+bsIfLckn 4+WLznhaXWAf7fX0yay4Ajq6Bg+AGQo0T8r8aWbJ2 -- This message didn't have any line breaks, and it's in Strict mode, so this should fail. --digsig t3 H9/V3rBrv7Ha3g0Z1/ywvbHimgezshgcTzSYJxbS4z /6YbckVZQdSNbu4DSbrIjXRmu2wU8IiiXP3LnyUn 2I/gQ5Uq5+42xQYfLxCbDM+YwowNgkBFXlfPvfIYK By the way, you don't want to hit the "view" button after checking this one - you'll get Run-Time Error 3021 - No current Record and then Kong dies. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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H-WEB: De Long on Scott, Planning & Hayek
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 01:37:43 EST Reply-To: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> Sender: Hayek Related Research <HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> From: Hayek-L List Host <HayekList(a)AOL.COM> Subject: H-WEB: De Long on Scott, Planning & Hayek To: HAYEK-L(a)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Status: U >> Hayek On The Web << -- Modernism / Government Planning J. Bradford De Long, "Not Seeing One's Intellectual Parents" On the Web at: http://econ161.berkeley.edu/Econ_Articles/Reviews/Seeing_Like_a_State.html >From the review: "There is a lot that is excellent in James Scott's _Seeing Like a State_. It begins with a romp through eighteenth- and nineteenth-century German forestry--and the failure of the foresters to understand the ecology of the forests that they were trying to manage. It continues with a brief digression on how states tried to gain control of their populations through maps, boulevards, and names. These are prequels to a vicious and effective critique of what Scott calls "high modernism": the belief that the planner--whether Le Corbusier designing a city, Vladimir Lenin designing a planned economy, or Julius Nyerere "villagizing" the people of Tanzania--knows best, and can move humans and their lives around on as if on a chessboard to create utopia. Then the focus appears to waiver. There is a chapter on agriculture in developing economies that characterizes agricultural extension efforts from the first to the third world as analogous to Lenin's nationalization of industry, or Nyerere's forced resettlement of Tanzanians. But the targets -- the agricultural extenders who dismiss established practices -- lose solidity and become shadows. They are no longer living, breathing, powerful rulers,; instead they are the "credo of American agriculture," the "catechism of high- modernist agriculture," the "high-modernist aesthetic and ideology of most colonial trained agronomists and their Western-trained successors" -- truly straw men. The conclusion is a call for social systems that recognize the importance of what Scott calls "metis": a Greek word for the practical knowledge that a skilled and experienced worker has of his craft. Most such practical knowledge cannot be easily summarized and simple rules, and much of it remains implicit: the devil is in the details. T he key fault of "high modernism," as Scott understands it, is its belief that details don't matter -- that planners can decree from on high, people obey, and utopia result. Well before the end of the book an economist is struck by a strong sense of deja vu. Scott's declarations of the importance of the detailed practical knowledge possessed by the person-on-the-spot -- of how such knowledge cannot be transmitted up any hierarchy to those-in-charge in a way to do any good--of how the locus of decision-making must remain with those who have the craft to understand the situation--of how any system that functions at all must create and maintain a space in which there is sufficient flexibility for craftsmen to exercise their metis (even if the hierarchs of the system pretend not to notice this flexibility)--all of these strike an economist as very, very familiar. All of these seem familiar to economists because they are the points made by Ludwig von Mises (1920) and Friedrich Hayek (1937) and the other Austrian economists in their pre-World War II debate with socialists over the possibility of central planning. Hayek's adversaries--Oskar Lange and company--argued that a market system had to be inferior to a centrally-planned system: at the very least, a centrally-planned economy could set up internal decision-making procedures that would mimic the market, and the central planners could also adjust things to increase social welfare and account for external effects in a way that a market system could never do. Hayek, in response, argued that the functionaries of a central-planning board could never succeed, because they could never create both the incentives and the flexibility for the people-on-the-spot to exercise what Scott calls metis. Today all economists--even those who are very hostile to Hayek's other arguments (that government regulation of the money supply lies at the root of the business cycle, that political attempts to reduce inequalities in the distribution of income lead to totalitarianism, that the competitive market is the "natural spontaneous order" of human society) -- agree that Hayek and company hit this particular nail squarely on the head. Looking back at the seventy-year trajectory of Communism, it seems very clear that Hayek (and Scott) are right: that its principal flaw is its attempt to concentrate knowledge, authority, and decision-making power at the center rather than pushing the power to act, the freedom to do so, and the incentive to act productively out to the periphery where the people-on-the-spot have the local knowledge to act effectively. In short, by the end of his book James Scott has argued himself into the intellectual positions adopted by Friedrich Hayek back before World War II. Yet throughout the book Scott appears to be ignorant that the intellectual terrain which he has reached has already been well-explored. This is quite distressing ... " J. Bradford De Long, "Not Seeing One's Intellectual Parents". Review of James Scott (1998), _Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed_. (New Haven: Yale University Press). 7/4/1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- References Peter Boettke (1990), The Political Economy of Soviet Socialism (Boston: Kluwer Academic Publishers: 0792391004). Friedrich Hayek, ed. (1935), Collectivist Economic Planning: Critical Studies on the Possibility of Socialism (London: Routledge: 0678007659). Friedrich Hayek (1937), "Economics and Knowledge," Economica 4, pp. 33-54. Friedrich Hayek (1945), "The Use of Knowledge in Society," American Economic Review 35, pp. 519-30. Frank Knight (1936), "The Place of Marginal Economics in a Collectivist System," American Economic Review 26:2, pp. 255-6. Abba Lerner (1934), "Economic Theory and Socialist Economy," Review of Economic Studies 2, pp. 51-61. James Scott (1998), Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed (New Haven: Yale University Press: 0300070160). Ludwig von Mises (1920), "Die Wirtschaftsrechnung im sozialistischen Gemeinwesen," Archiv fur Sozialwissenschaften und Sozialpolitik 47:1, pp. 86-121." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Professor of Economics J. Bradford De Long, 601 Evans Hall, #3880 University of California at Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720-3880 (510) 643-4027 phone (510) 642-6615 fax delong(a)econ.berkeley.edu http://econ161.berkeley.edu/ Hayek On The Web is a regular feature of the Hayek-L list. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Attract Women &/or Men (and keep them)!
by bettyrubble＠3253137429 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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NOT the Orange Book
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Paul Merrill, the author of "NOT the Orange Book," has provided a digital version of his "Guide to the Definition, Specification, Tasking, and Documentation for the Development of Secure Computer Systems -- Including Condensations of the Members of the Rainbow Series and Related Documents:" http://jya.com/ntob.htm (385K) Zipped: http://jya.com/ntob.zip (92K) This is Paul's 1992 manual prepared while working for DoD to evaluate and purchase secure computer systems, for ADP, C4I and weapons, and to compensate for the shortcomings of the official regulations. It's still widely used, Paul says, for the unending conflict between DoD, NSA, DIA and defense contractors about how to develop and assure computer security from lab rat pipedream to the warfighter's "wha's this piece of shit." Section IV, Case Studies, is a wonder at describing what to do when perfect design goes to hell in the field, and a pissed warrior who's comm's been compromised got a K-Bar sawing your apple, roaring "tech support, now!"

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RE: UK police chase crooks on CCTV (fwd)
by Albert P. Franco, II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Snipped down to DCF's response... >My point is not that we shouldn't grab them it's that the "Human Rights >Community" is politically discriminatory and wouldn't think of going after >commies. > Since I live in Spain, I am privy to a side of the story that doesn't seem to get much air outside of Spain. (At least not that I've seen) In Spain, Spain is the protagonist in this issue--not the "Human Rights Community". It may be that they accept any help they may get from these folks, but the main push is from the families of Spanish citizens murdered by Pinochet. He not only killed his "countrymen" but also foreign nationals. Spain will try him for the murders of Spaniards NOT Argentineans, Brazilians, Americans, or any other nationality. >From inside Spain this issue doesn't seem nearly as global as the international community portrays it. I guess it's kind of like a certain African nation wanting to try a certain western hemisphere president for the deaths of some factory workers... Or perhaps in a small way a refutation of the international norm that protects rulers from the otherwise natural consequence of their actions. APF

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No Subject
by nations＠freeyellow.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

11/02/98 Y2K Solution! 8 Pine Circle Dr., Silicon Valley, Calif. USA OTC Company "TCFG" 21 st. Century Frontier Group has through several members of their administrative research department leaked vital information about their companies efforts. Everyone was tight lipped and interviews were refused, and through un-named sources we have learned that the technology and software solution are in the process of being patented! In over 1640 trials, using various data systems the use of the new technology and software solved the Y2K problem 100% of the time. This small publicly traded company "TCFG" which is just 3 years old is through various sources now negotiating with the "Big Boys"! "TCFG" the letters to look for.....

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Hacktivists
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"HACKTIVISTS" SAY: "THE REVOLUTION WILL BE DIGITIZED" Two political activists in New York, of cofounders of the Electronic Disturbance Theater, are organizing "virtual sit-ins" and recruiting programmers to attack the Web sites of persons or organizations they believe responsible for oppression. "We see this as a form of electronic civil obedience," says Stefan Wray, one of the two leaders of this effort. National Information Protection Agency chief Michael Vatis says, "I wouldn't characterize vandalizing Web sites as cyber-terrorism, but the only responsible assumption we can make is that there's more going on that we don't know about." Some activists agree with that assessment, but for different reasons; they think such methods are unproductive because they will antagonize the general public. (New York Times 31 Oct 98)

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Do you gamble, or want to know how?!
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17 Dec '03

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Re: Who is next? (re Jim's subpoena)
by DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could you mean this.... First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945. William J. Hartwell wrote: > > This ran through my mind this morning before I was totally awake. Maybe > somebody can help me with the original author of this.... > > When they came for Kevin Mitnick I said nothing. After all he was a big > time hacker and I wasn't a hacker so I did not speak up. > > When they came for Jim Bell I said nothing. He was a criminal and I am not > a criminal so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Toto I said nothing. Surely he was nuts and I am > completely sane so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Jim Choate I said nothing. He runs a cypherpunks mailing > list and I don't manage any lists so I didn't speak up. > > When they come for me who will be left to speak up? > > This is a poor paraphrase of the original but I wonder if it is something > that we may be saying here in the U.S. soon? > > -- > William J. Hartwell > (602)987-8436 > Queencreek, Az. > > billh(a)ibag.com billh(a)interdem.com billh(a)hartwell.net

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Re: wtf...
by Pallas Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mohammed Lazhar wrote: > > hey Guys : > I just subscribed to the list. I will be posting stuff soon > Mohammed Please let me know as soon as you post amything!!!

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