December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by EmanueL 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Encrypted_Message=On 4 May 1998 02:57:07 GMT, in article <6ijaq3$bb1(a)news1.panix.com>, <The(a)NSA.sucks> Information Security (= Guy Polis <guy(a)panix.com>) wrote: # Guy Polis (guy(a)panix.com, eviljay(a)bway.net) is a pedophile child # molester who was fired from his consulting position at Salomon Brothers # after he was caught masturbating in his cubicle at the child pornography # JPEGs that he downloaded from the Internet. The poster's been awful quiet lately - did the feds arrest him? Browser=Netscape:Mozilla/3.03C-PBWG (Win95; U) Remedy=Tell the world

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by EmanueL 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by EmanueL 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by EmanueL 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Encrypted_Message=On 4 May 1998 02:57:07 GMT, in article <6ijaq3$bb1(a)news1.panix.com>, <The(a)NSA.sucks> Information Security (= Guy Polis <guy(a)panix.com>) wrote: # Guy Polis (guy(a)panix.com, eviljay(a)bway.net) is a pedophile child # molester who was fired from his consulting position at Salomon Brothers # after he was caught masturbating in his cubicle at the child pornography # JPEGs that he downloaded from the Internet. The poster's been awful quiet lately - did the feds arrest him? Browser=Netscape:Mozilla/3.03C-PBWG (Win95; U) Remedy=Tell the world

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by STUFFED NEWS DAILY 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Year 2000..READ THIS!
by myear2000＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have read and heard the stories in the media, -"COMPUTERS WILL SHUT DOWN IN THE YEAR 2000!" What will your computer do when the NEW MILLENNIUM hits?? I have developed a new program, that will check your computer and give you the results in just a few short minutes! It is simple to run ,easy to understand and very affordable. There is no need to take your computer into a computer service depot to get the same results, that would probably cost you 100's of dollars more! You will now be armed with the info you need to know, if only a simple BIOS upgrade is needed! Believe me when I tell you, a lot of computer service depots are going to get rich, in trying to convince you that you either need a new computer or a full upgrade is necessary!! Our software will show you at a glance what your computer's capabilities are, it will give you the required recommendations of what you should and can't do The software is available two ways - The simple easy way is by file attached email. You just copy the file to a floppy disk and run it. If you prefer the program be sent to you already on 31/2 or 51/4 floppy, the cost is slightly more. Cost of software............$20.00 US funds - Email (file attached) make sure you include your email address!!! $25.00 US funds - floppy disk - (please specify) All funds to be in US dollars only and to be paid by Postal Money Order or Cash. Please include self-addressed stamped envelope for software on floppies. Send to....... Year 2000 8 Poplar Street, Leamington, Ontario, Canada N8H 3L4 http://www.netcore.ca/~panazoom Due to the overwhelming response we have been experiencing so far, please allow one week for the email file and two to three weeks for the floppies.

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - August 25, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Is hate code speech?
by proff＠suburbia.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IS YOUR FAVORITE COMPUTER PROGRAM RACIST? Texas programmer sues former employer over offensive code. When Willa Jackson started working the night shift at Integrated Systech in Austin, Texas, she felt she was entering a world filled with opportunity. Jackson had just completed three years of intensive course work in computer programming at a local community college and, at the age of 47, had recently been hired by the successful software developer. Her night-shift position at IS was to be Jackson's first non-minimum wage job. But that optimism soon turned to shame and then anger as Jackson discovered that many of her colleagues at IS were accustomed to making racist jokes in the office. In fact, the epithets were never actually uttered in Jackson's presence, they were encoded within the dozens of software applications being developed at IS. Her painful discovery occurred less than one month after she began working as an entry-level programming assistant. It was Jackson's responsibility to find bugs in sections of code that other, higher-level IS programmers produced during the day. But when Jackson -- an African-American woman who hopes to one day launch her own software startup -- began to dig deeper into a faulty section of source code she was mortified by what she found. Programmers at the company had been using racist monikers and explicit sexual language in the variables used by their programs to sort information. In one instance, a program had been instructed to "fetch watermelons" and "somefriedchicken" when handling a certain procedure. The handler had even been dubbed "pickaninny" and was only one of several dozen like sequences embedded in IS programs designed for home and office use. When Jackson showed the racist code to her supervisor she was assured that IS would act decisively to reprimand and possibly even dismiss the offending employee. But as weeks passed and no one approached Jackson with a follow-up to her complaint, she began to suspect that no disciplinary action would be forthcoming. At that point, Jackson began to pore over the mountains of used code that IS had stockpiled over the past six years. Much to her dismay, Jackson discovered derogatory and occasionally violent terms inside the programming language used by almost all IS software programs. "It went all the way back to the first version of ISDisk," explains an incredulous Jackson, "and they never bothered to hide it." Shortly after she had printed out over a thousand pages of tainted code, Jackson hired an attorney and filed a $10 million dollar lawsuit against the profitable software firm. Just who is responsible for the recurring use of discriminatory language in the company's computer code is still a mystery. IS executives have issued several public apologies since the lawsuit began, but they have yet to cooperate with the investigation into its allegedly hostile work environment. In 1996, Texaco paid out $140 million to resolve a similar lawsuit brought by its minority employees. But labor law experts speculate that the IS case may never be resolved due to the unprecedented circumstances of the alleged misconduct. "No jury in this state will believe that the code Jackson found is speech," argues Mitch Shapson, an attorney with the labor relations firm of Stennis, Shapson & Velasquez. "Even if they did think the messages hidden inside the programs were offensive," continues Shapson, "it would be like trying an auto manufacturer for putting a Swastika-shaped part in your car's engine." Jackson, who is now working as a full-time programmer at Dell Computers in San Antonio, is not willing to give up her fight against IS despite the slim chances of a legal victory. "At this point, I'm not interested in the money," claims an unbowed Jackson, "I only want the public to think twice about the kinds of hateful messages that may be hidden inside the software they use everyday."

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by Ted Lungu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by Ted Lungu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by Ted Lungu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Telcos CALEA Complaint Against FBI
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We offer the August 19 complaint by the United States Telephone Association against the FBI and Justice over CALEA requirements: http://jya.com/usta-v-fbi.htm (51K)

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by joe harlin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I only get this thread in encrypted (Encrypted_Message) format, why? >Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:13:21 -0700 >From: Ted Lungu <lungu(a)netside.net> >To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, cypherpunks(a)algebra.com, > shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to, fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Subject: Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1! > >Encrypted_Message=On+4+May+1998+02%3A57%3A07+GMT%2C+in+article+%3C6ijaq3%24bb1@news1.panix.com%3E%2C%0D%0A%3CThe@NSA.sucks%3E+Information+Security+%28%3D+Guy+Polis+%3Cguy@panix.com%3E%29+wrote%3A%0D%0A%23+++Guy+Polis+%28guy@panix.com%2C+eviljay@bway.net%29+is+a+pedophile+child%0D%0A%23+++molester+who+was+fired+from+his+consulting+position+at+Salomon+Brothers%0D%0A%23+++after+he+was+caught+masturbating+in+his+cubicle+at+the+child+pornography%0D%0A%23+++JPEGs+that+he+downloaded+from+the+Internet.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe+poster%27s+been+awful+quiet+lately+-+did+the+feds+arrest+him%3F&Browser=Netscape%3AMozilla%2F3.01Gold+%28X11%3B+I%3B+SunOS+5.6+sun4u%29&Remedy=Tell+the+world > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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NSA's Barbara McNamara denies fee waiver appeal
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tuesday 8/25/98 12:31 PM Charles R Smith http://www.us.net/softwar/ NSA deputy director Barbara McNamara's wrote me a letter dated 19 August 1998. http://www.nsa.gov:8080/mission.html McNamara DENIED my fee waiver appeal for search for invoices NSA spent on public key chips. >From my inside dealings with NSAs R division and Sandia employees I learned that both had some VERY UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCES with public key. I am sending both you and John Young copies of NcNamaras letter. McNamara wrote, This response may be construed as a denial of your appeal. Accordingly, you are hereby advised to your right to seek judicial review of my decision pursuant to 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(4) (B) in the United States District Court in the district in which you reside, in which you have your principal place of business, in which the Agencys records are situated (U.S. District Court of Maryland), or in the District of Columbia. http://www.jya.com/hr105-37.txt >From my case law studies at UNM law library, I HAVE NOT seen any example of anyone suing for a fee waiver denial. McNamara wrote The key issue I considered in my review is whether disclosure of the information is likely to contribute to the public understanding of the operations or activities of the government. My guess is that NSA has squandered tens of millions of dollars TRYING to build public key chips - like the Cylink 1024. http://www.cylink.com/ Some of NSA's money, I think, was spent at Sandia Labs funding the failed Sandia low- and high-speed public key chips. See Whitfield Diffie, "The First Ten Years of Public Key Cryptography," Proceedings of the IEEE, 76(5), May 1988. referenced at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/nukearse.htm Sandia's public key chips didn't get the same answers, Sandia Ron Kulju told me. KULJU,RONALD J. (505)845-8860 RJKULJU (505)844-9478 0519 http://www.sandia.gov/cgi-bin/emplloc Both NSA and Sandia MUCH TROUBLE building semiconductor devices. I have inside information on NSAs problems from National Semiconductor. National was hired by NSA to help make chips at NSA's facility. Perhaps McNamara opinion should be challenged IN COURT? We have some experience in this endeavor. http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm And may get some recognition http://www.jya.com/chrysler98.htm The Chrysler Award for Innovation in Design, now in its sixth year, honors outstanding designers (or design teams). Winners are chosen from across the design disciplines by a judging panel of design leaders. One the selection is made, Chrysler will award $10,000 to each winner (or winning team) at a ceremony in New York in the Fall of 1998. Award winners will be flown to New York for the Award Ceremony. for our efforts. I see that you are trying to gain some VISIBILITY for your encryption product http://www.softwar.net/plight.html. And that you are BIG into the FOIA business too. http://www.softwar.net/softb.html Then TOO you can charge NSA OVER $100 per hour for your efforts should we win. NSA attempting to conceal how much taxpayer money it has squandered is clearly in the public interest. And we have the ABILITY and EXPERTISE to disseminate this information to the public. Perhaps you might be interested in participating in perhaps THE FIRST a FOIA fee waiver lawsuit? Pro se, of course, for both legal and economic reasons. McNamara would be, along with OTHERS at NSA, a NAMED DEFENDANT. On the other hand, perhaps these crypto-related government messes http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm http://caq.com/cryptogate http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm http://www.qainfo.se/~lb/crypto_ag.htm should get SETTLED so that we can all move on to other projects? Later bill

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Reinsch: Crypto export law changes soon.
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On NPR's "Talk of the Nation" yesterday, Bill Reinsch, who is an undersecretary for Export Administration in the Department of Commerce, stated that a change in the export regs should be expected around Labor Day. The context was that the 'promise to compromise your future products, and we'll let you export un-escrowed DES until the end of 1998' deal is running out, and BXA wants business to know (slightly) ahead of time what the new regimen will be. The entire ToTN article can be heard on Real Audio: http://www.npr.org/programs/totn/archives/1998/current.html Peter Trei ptrei(a)securitydynamics.com

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PC Beta Download (was Re: Download Info (Form) PC)
by jason roks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by B.C. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by B.C. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by B.C. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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illegitimate America
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I heard Clinton's voice for the first time -really- at the barbershop on Wed. I thought he was labeled a great speaker --his accent is one thing, but the resonance I expected was more nasal and hard (despite the fact he was on the attack). one thing was immediately apparent from his body language --mean, a wounded jackal, and the ominous signs of a dirty fighter just below the surface. he should have been a circus barker or patent medicine hawker. I dont remember what Clinton said as it was just the usual accusations of persecution. a made for TV president? I suppose, when you consider what TV, the potentially great teacher, degenerated to: nothing more than bread and circi, gladiators and moral decadence. the average six year old has seen 2,000 murders, many of the graphic --and then we wonder why the current generation has no concept of the value of life, or that death and sex are easy and maybe interchangeable? I read part of Clinton's text --no speech writer in Washington, even the real slime-balls, even James Carville, would, on camera, skirt the whole issue, not even admitting to the concept of a sexual affair; dismissing the faked apology in 30 seconds and then spending 3 1/2 minutes in a fierce, partisan, false-premise attack on Starr. there was a NYTimes story on Jordon. apparently Jordon dropped a bomb with the grand jury stating he had been deceived by Clinton. likewise, Betty Currie hung him out to dry and that she had been used. Jordon was not willing to take the fall for Slick Willie, or even be a part of deception. Jordon has been around too long, and is a respected part of the Washington legal crowd (well, as respectable as lawyers can ever be...). Betty Currie, black, is known as a Christian, righteous and dependable, the last stop before the boss for years --she came with Clinton from Arkansas. that man is dangerous.... Ambrose Evans-Price is back in Washington --I suppose for the kill; expect him to really start digging again to finish his prior work. Bubba is a 3 year old who has had a toy (which he stole from a 2 year old) taken away from him, and is truculently throwing his tantrum as if his g_d-given rights to rape, pillage, and burn were being trampled. I have subscribed to the oft stated presumption that Clinton is an illegitimate Rockefeller --Lawrence, Winthrop's brother. Hot Springs and the countless door openings. the story of a William Blake, a traveling salesman, was pure swamp-water; they picked Blake since he was dead --remember the second half-brother (paternal) which turned up right after election whose mother actually was married to Blake --sure like to see a DNA comparison. As a pure Poor Southern White (trailer) Trash, Clinton would never have been given the opportunities he received. Bubba has the strange mix of the trailer trash he really is and the connections of the Rockefellers. Clinton is not the only extremely intelligent child to grow up in an Arkansas trailer park, but he is probably is the only one to do more than wear his CAT or Mack cap backwards. my friend, foreign correspondent Eric Margolis said yesterday: A number of readers have reminded me I predicted four years ago Clinton would be undone by personal scandals in his second term. I didn't need a crystal ball. Having observed Clinton's career since he followed me by two years at Georgetown University, I knew he was a ruthlessly ambitious politician, whose utter lack of honesty, character, or honor would one day bring him low. consider the book Primary Colors, of which (joe?) Klein has been unmasked as the writer: it exposes the total lack of character in both Bill and Hillary --total amorality, riding scandal after scandal with plausible denials. affair after affair... and there is a white-black child in Australia, but the mother is silent --money or fear? more DNA anyone? someone else made the comment that the women consider him a likable rogue --soap opera. Clinton plays the women like violins, pressing all the hot buttons of the 25-45 class and they give him a 20-25% edge, a figure quoted by many polls and, of course, it was enough to dump "just plain ol' dull George". Margolis made another interesting (and obvious) comment: Far from the wronged, last-to-know wife, Hillary Clinton is an Arkansas Lady Macbeth. She is the guiding force behind the Clinton presidency, who accepts her husband's sleazy infidelities as a price of power. Mrs Clinton's ardent left-liberal views did not deter her from taking $100,000 in commodity payoffs from big business, spearheading the Whitewater land fraud, hiding documents from government investigators, terrorizing White House employees, or amassing illegal files on Republicans. nothing we have not known, but better stated. a way of life... can you even consider the Clintons a dysfunctional family? --it's more like something out of Charles Adams. Angela Houston played the perfect Hillary, and her sleazy husband fits Bill. it makes you wonder about Chelsea. there she was on the tarmac with her father, ugly as ever, but up front. she may have looked like she had been whupped by an ugly stick (normal), but she sure wasn't hiding --how can she return to Stanford this fall? being the daughter of a sitting President isn't easy --but Chelsea? (...and we thought Amy had a tough time...). more Margolis: The Clintons haven't yet been caught red-handed because they are both lawyers, the curse of modern America. Both knew precisely how to conceal their questionalble dealings behind an impenetrable smokescreen of legal ambiguities, how to skirt the law and avoid open illegality, to never leave written evidence. That's why the Special Prosecutor, Judge Starr, has had such a difficult time in untangling the Gordian Knot of the Clinton's finances... "...lawyers, the curse of modern America" --yes, the U.S. has honed their skill to a new and deeper cesspool, but the lawyers have been with us from antiquity --the Pharisees, for instance. well, let's see if my 1986 prediction, even before the name Clinton burst upon the national political scene, falls into place. Bush could very well be the last U.S. president to finish his elected term. any way the game plays out now is a potential disaster. Clinton is not going to leave office willingly or voluntarily and Hillary's FBI files will just be a beginning for the Republicans --even the NYTimes and Washington Post will end up looking like the National Enquirer in this blood bath. a) impeachment: James Carville will have a field day opening the Congressional sewer. Clinton will still be commander-in-chief and the U.S. will quickly be in a foreign war which will bring actual warfare to the American land. if Al Gore, with his unfolding problems, moves to 1600 Pennsylvania, the welfare state will roll out of the garage and take off --the military falling into disarray, unprepared and unsupplied to keep the lid on Pax Americana. America is not loved, probably not even by the Brits as they hang in there now since they need the company while they play standoff with the EC. b) assassination: I dont think the country could survive another one, and the results following the chaos would be the same. c) accident: there is a joke running around about Clinton visiting a class room and asking if anyone knew what a 'tragedy' was. the first child suggested when a friend is run over on a bike. Clinton said no, that would be an 'accident'. a second child suggested when a school bus went over a cliff. Clinton said no, that would be a 'great loss'. finally, a child said that a 'tragedy' was if an airplane carrying Bill and Hillary crashed and they were killed. Clinton said that yes, that would be a 'tragedy' and asked the child why that would be a 'tragedy'. "Simple", said the child, "it wouldn't be an 'accident' and it certainly would not be a 'great loss'". this begs the old joke of how do you create a "flood"...? Janet Reno has been protecting Al Gore for some several years, but the pot is beginning to show foul smelling fistules. the campaign funds sleeze which oozes out of that pot will cripple the Democratic party --the fund swapping with the Teamster president's election fund alone is pure racketeering, while the Chinese connections are treasonous. and the Democrats will retaliate in kind. you cant vote the politicians out of office --the inbred two-party (supposedly) system is self-sustaining with reformers learning very quickly that reelection is dependent on playing the line, with few notable exceptions. this collection of power hungry thieves drops sleeper legislation into unrelated laws, legislation which now brings us a national ID card by fall 2000, complete with biometrics, credit record, driving record, criminal record, medical record, and whatever else they want to slide in --the mark of the beast is upon us and "the number of the beast is six hundred three score and six". [RV 13:15-18] the American people can not win a war against Washington; Clinton and friends would not hesitate to use UN troops against American targets; and who can supply a rebel army today? is Russia going to help the "patriots" with arms and supplies and provide the clandestine radio/TV facilities? besides, Clinton's Gestapo is root out and exterminating the militias. militias composed today of only of the foolish brave. that leaves massive civil disobedience --such as withholding taxes. but joe six pack and friends are never going to accept what that means --the destruction of the U.S. infrastructure and the consequent invasion of America by her "friends" to divvy up the spoils and subjugate what's left of the population --probably less than 50 million when the cities collapse and are wasted. unfortunately, joe six pack will be trying to tune in another sitcom when it all collapses --when the cold beer runs out, he will only be confused. pessimism? I dont think so. the question is "when?" the cards are all on the table: world economics, Islamic jihad (the cruise missiles coalesced the divergent groups into even more hatred), irresolvable corruption in virtually all national governments: total instability in Russia, the Japanese "house of cards" with a gangster compromised political system which will not force the changes required, and China about to pay the piper for her financial cronyism. the "conspiracy" theorists have no clue. there is no conspiracy. it's nothing more than greedy men around the world, in concert with corrupt governments who have taken away any semblance of civilization's morality. the worldwide unfunded paper credit is bigger than even the central bankers can even conceive, let alone handle; it is estimated that 80% of the float is in paper copies of credit card debt and checks traversing the system. a 10% loss is enough to level most balance sheet. even Microsoft with its ill-gotten filthy lucre could not sustain a 20% write off, or an 80% collapse. a global crash this time around will cripple mankind, plunging the globe into starvation and disease as the infrastructure implodes. the U.S. is the most vulnerable --how many can be supported in the population centers? who survives? probably less than 1% of the urban population --lack of water, food, and sanitation; the last is the real killer. much of the third world lives in squalor; but their mortality rate will only be set back 50 years. armies move on their stomachs and require enormous supply trains of food and ammo. America settled two European wars (plus the Japanese) by being able to feed and arm both our armies and those of of our allies. consider that _one_ production line in Southern California was cranking out a new B29 every 30 minutes --48 per day-- that's production, and Rosie the Welder. and the knowledge, in wartime Germany, of another B29 every 30 minutes --from one line, was was demoralizing as the payloads were devastating. you cant do that when your infrastructure is being bombed by the continuous flow of more and more U.S. B24s and B29s --ask Germany. and then people wonder why I live in the Intermountain Empire --but probably not far enough from its borders. attila out... rant mode off.

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Cafe Gulag
by Wm. Michael Denney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Msg for Jim Choate... Contact Larry Joe Dowling at 512-892-3393. from TOTO

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Quote of the Day: Bullshit by the horns
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The jist of what the NIST dude running the AES program to Crypto 98, UCSB 25 Aug: "We are looking for an algorithm acceptable to you and to the NSA" No one doubled over in laughter, at least physically. over and out There is a secret message embedded in the phosphor of this period.

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No Subject
by jim.profit＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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