December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by kie25＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Suit with braindead tie
by She Devil With A Modem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Also Sprach Anonymous: > > time.com / The Netly News > May 19, 1998 > > There was blood in the water in Washington, DC yesterday, and > Microsoft's foes hardly had a chance to rejoice over the government's > anticipated antitrust lawsuit before they were asking for more. > Longtime Microfoe Gary Reback, an attorney with the Silicon Valley law > firm Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, still thinks breaking up > Microsoft AT&T-style would be a good idea. At a press conference > yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) predicted the lawsuit "will > become even broader. I have no doubt about that." Netscape dubbed it a > welcome but only an "initial step." > > [...remainder snipped...] I wonder if anyone else has picked up on the "Braindead military action" of awarding Microsoft the dubiously coveted intelligence desktop? It may not be as braindead as you think. Yes, if standard kickbacks and BS occur as they have in the past (those who are not free to speak about the mistakes of the past may be doomed to see them repeated) then technical support for the poor troopies required to maintain the shitty, buggy NT ports may end up making "Blue Screen Of Death" have an entirely new and sad meaning. It's sad that the lack of the intelligence community's desire to police itself as much as it would like to police America's generic civilians results in the sort of kickbacking that yields inferior weaponry, but I guess if they don't address that it will end up biting them in the ass. And yes, that is indeed indicative of a braindead military, led by the supreme oxymoron of a braindead military intelligence community, where the dutiful are asked to turn their eyes away (for reasons of classification, of course) from the acts of the greedy. But assume for a moment that it might be the military and not M$oft that holds the leash on the contract. Imagine a Microsoft that has sold it's soul to the US Intel community. Couldn't happen to a nicer company, don't you think? Microsoft HAVING to port their NT stuff to the Unix boxes that hold the databases and the communications servers. Microsoft HAVING to provide a certain amount of "mission critical" tech support. Microsoft HAVING to deal with adapting to the real world, rather than forcing the world to adapt to it. This could be the beginning of a beautiful "friendship". >;-7 -- "Good evening, Mr. Burglar! My name is Jowles! | Do not CD c Would you care for a cocktail before I attempt | taunt --------P===\==/ to intimidate you with my aggressive behavior?" | happy fun /_\__ -- Miss Manners' Attack Dog | fencer! _\ \ S

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Re: Chaum's patent on traceable payment systems
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Chaum's "limited-traceability" patent includes other features which directly counterbalance those of the Abstract accurately posted by Anonymous. We've transcribed the initial sections of the 17-page patent which provide a fuller view of what his system offers: http://jya.com/chaum-lts.htm It's an interesting, nuanced proposal, from 1994, which helps explain some of the strategy he's been keeping close to his chest until patent approval, and which may portend more provocative designs in the pipeline for outfoxing the keepers of the chickens.

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'Nobody', Still At Home!
by StanSqncrs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/19/98 10:09:01 PM Central Daylight Time, mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com writes: << Stan, It is considered rude to quote a private e-mail publicly without obtaining permission from the sender first. Try putting "netiquitte" in your favorite search engine. Then read and learn. This will help you. >> Gee, like sending anonomous, unsolicited e-mail isn't against "netiquitte"? Try taking that "plank" out of you eye, buddy! Stan

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Humor...
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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programing
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello i am new to this list i would like to know what programing language everyone prefers and any books they recommend on that subject thanx josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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. Re: Unix O/S
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Gypsy Wanderer wrote: > > Hi > I'm new to posting on this list (I've been checking it out for a while, > really interesting stuff). > > I'm a computer science student and therefore a newbie, but am interested > in cryptography. > > I will be taking a UNIX course next year and plan to set up a UNIX drive > on my PC. > > I'm interested in getting some advice on which UNIX O/S would be good to > set up. I'm currently aware of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SCO UNIX, and LINUX. > Suggestions and the reasons why would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, Gypsy > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com I'm starting a petition for less wasted bandwidth in cypherpunks. To show your support, just respond to this thread.

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Re: programing
by StanSqncrs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/21/98 1:47:56 PM Central Daylight Time, declan(a)pathfinder.com writes: << My favorites are Applesoft BASIC and 6502 assembly. I suggest you go out an buy an Apple IIe. Just think -- no need to deal with any messy compiler, and you've got BASIC in ROM! A win-win situation, I say! >> Oh Man! If you're gonna suggest 6502, go out and get a Cad... - a C-64 with a 6510! Seriously. ;-) Stan Rosenthal

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Re: Archives: Blast from the past on GSM...
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Hettinga wrote: >Anyway, much more than Y2K, I can imagine some poor old fart sweating away >right now, waiting for some intellegent young hacker to come along and >evicerate his whole installed code base, just because he decided the "rest >of us" were too stupid to figure out how smart he was. Are you imagining "limited traceability" being discovered to be not what it claims to be? It was humorous that several of Chaum's equations were printed upside down and/or mirror-imaged, yet got through the 4-year review process just fine. He must have chuckled at that. And that several "embodiments of the present invention" just flat out said "if you trust this digital transaction you are one dumb MF who deserves to be monitored," thereby assuring the user of his invention that a target is just as dumb. It's impressive that Chaum intends to fleece the law-abiding and the outlaws by getting them chasing their tails thinking they're secretly tracing/escaping the opposition while he laughs all the way to the . . . Y2K is the tip of this techno-shamanry-duplicity, wild humor with a straight-bankers-face, umm, like guess who -- our best Chaumian style comedian.

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17 Dec '03

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re:programming
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i was thinking along the lines of pascal or c i don't want to use apple or any form of it and besides i have a ibm compatible which do you think is better thanx for all your responses they've helped somewhat what is wrong with pascal or c please enclose all things that i should take in to consideration much appreciative josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Re: Unix O/S
by StanSqncrs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/22/98 10:29:27 AM Central Daylight Time, nobody(a)REPLAY.COM writes: << I'm starting a petition for less wasted bandwidth in cypherpunks. >> You would. << To show your support, just respond to this thread. >> Oh, so there's no way we can show if we don't support your idea. You create what we call an un-level playing field. BUT, in this case, I think there's a simple way that you can have it so there's less wasted bandwidth here. Ban anonomous posting. ;-) Stan

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Off topic.
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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re:programing
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello it is i josh once again i finally bought a book for visual basic does anyone know where i can get a complier for version 5 the book is by waite group press by e zone it's web based though and i don't have the internet but i think it will be fine reading it out of the book what do you think thanx josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Re: programing
by X1 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 08:33:11PM -0600, josh d smith wrote: | hello it is i josh once again | i finally bought a book for visual basic | does anyone know where i can get a complier for version 5 | the book is by waite group press | by e zone it's web based though and i don't have the internet but i think | it will be fine reading it out of the book what do you think | thanx josh This doesn't appear to have anything even closely related to the purpose of the cypherpunks list. You should look at newsgroups like comp.lang.basic.visual and look at other mailing lists.

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re:programing
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

sorry if i offended you x1 but everyone else seemed like they were willing to talk on the subject and nothing else was being said and i needed some advise and you all are suposed to be inteligent which some of you have proved thanx everyone for your input so on the subject of cyptogrify (sorry about the spelling) what program do you request using? and where can i get it thanx josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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RE: programing
by Iain Collins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Saturday, May 23, 1998 3:33 AM, josh d smith [SMTP:josh434@juno.com] wrote: > hello it is i josh once again > i finally bought a book for visual basic > does anyone know where i can get a complier for version 5 > the book is by waite group press > by e zone it's web based though and i don't have the internet but i think > it will be fine reading it out of the book what do you think > thanx josh You don't have the internet? You didn't get it with your CD? - I heard you can get it on 3 x 1.44 MB disks from KwikMart (only $1.99). Now, I'm not too sure how all this 'internet' stuff works (all rather complicated), but don't you need one to send an e-mail? Boy have I been burned... ;) Iain, icollins(a)sol.co.uk PS: If you would like serious answer then feel free to send me a serious question and I'd be happy to help you out (I'd say the questions are off topic from this list :).

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Crypto programs.
by X1 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 12:11:17AM -0600, josh d smith wrote: | sorry if i offended you x1 but everyone else seemed like they were | willing to talk on the subject and nothing else was being said and i | needed some advise and you all are suposed to be inteligent which some of | you have proved thanx everyone for your input so on the subject of | cyptogrify (sorry about the spelling) what program do you request using? | and where can i get it Some of the best crypto programs: PGP available at http://www.pgpi.com/ If you're in the US, look at http://www.pgp.com/ If you run Linux, you could look at CFS (Cryptographic File System) Look at http://www.cs.hut.fi/crypto for lots of info about crypto, links, algorithms, software, etc.

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Re: vznuri is Vulis
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Information Security wrote: > > From ichudov(a)Algebra.Com Thu May 21 23:09:59 1998 > > Information Security wrote: > > > > From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri(a)netcom.com> > > > > as for Timmy, you're better off ignoring him. he doesn't realize that > > > > people take him far less seriously than he would hope. > > > > > > Heh-heh-heh. > > > Vulis's alternate personality is pathetic at flaming. > > > > 1) He is not Vulis's alternate personality > > He says in email he wants to convince me otherwise, > but then failed to follow through with anything > to document a real "Vladimir Z. Nuri". Look, why don't you read two year old archives to figure things out. > > 2) You are also pathetic > And you are Igor. > ---guy, Vulis Terminator > KABLAMMO! dm.com was gone...Vulis never to post in his own name again - Igor.

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re:programing
by Dan S. Camper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>sorry if i offended you x1 but everyone else seemed like they were >willing to talk on the subject and nothing else was being said and i >needed some advise and you all are suposed to be inteligent which some of >you have proved thanx everyone for your input so on the subject of >cyptogrify (sorry about the spelling) what program do you request using? >and where can i get it COBOL would let you practice putting periods at the end of statements. Learn two things at once! More seriously, code written in C, C++ and Perl is in demand. There's a better chance that more people can maintain or update your code than if it was written in a less mainstream language, and customers tend to appreciate that. Out of those three, Perl is probably the best introductory language. DSC

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Unix O/S
by Gypsy Wanderer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi I'm new to posting on this list (I've been checking it out for a while, really interesting stuff). I'm a computer science student and therefore a newbie, but am interested in cryptography. I will be taking a UNIX course next year and plan to set up a UNIX drive on my PC. I'm interested in getting some advice on which UNIX O/S would be good to set up. I'm currently aware of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SCO UNIX, and LINUX. Suggestions and the reasons why would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gypsy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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