December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

1998 Resolutions
by ForInformationCall＠1-800-339-2933-EXT.4775 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Jim Bell... lives... on... in... Hollywood!
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone noticed this before? ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: 1 Jan 1998 09:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19980101095451.25998.qmail(a)suburbia.net> From: proff(a)suburbia.net To: proff(a)suburbia.net Subject:home.html Scoop the Grim Reaper! Who will live? Who will die? And who will win the grand prize in Dewey's Death Pool -- an all-expense paid, two-day Hollywood Death Tour for two. Or one of four quarterly prizes -- a fabulous celebrity death library. It's fun, it's easy -- and all you have to do to win is correctly forecast more celebrity deaths for the calendar year 1998 than any other entrant. Here's how it works: Between now and December 31, 1997, fill out an entry form, listing your picks in descending likelihood of death. For instance, if you believe Celebrity X is a cinch to die within the year, list him or her in the No. 1 slot, followed by your second most likely choice in the No. 2 slot, etc. For tie-breaking reasons, a correct pick in the top slot is worth 10 points, a correct pick in the second is worth 9 points, and so forth. (Please list an alternative name in the event that one of your choices dies before the game begins. The alternative will be substituted in the empty slot and you will not receive credit for the original name.) At the end of the year, the contestant with the most correct picks wins. If there's a tie, the winner will be the person with the highest point total. In the event of a point-tie, the contestant with the youngest decedent will win. Judges' decisions are final. In addition, quarterly prizes (an assortment of guide books, maps, videos and other celebrity death memoribilia) will be awarded for the most correct picks within the four three-month intervals ending 11:59 EST on March 31, June 30, September 30 and December 31, 1998. In the event of ties, tie-breaker rules described above apply. Standings will be updated on the site regularly. To qualify as a correct "hit," a death must be noted in one or more of the following publications: New York Times, Los Angeles Times, U.S.A. Today, Time, Newsweek or People. Paid obituaries do not count; the death notice MUST appear in the context of a news story, roundup item or editorial obituary. If someone's death is not mentioned in one of the above publications, you will not receive credit. You will not receive credit for a death if you somehow contribute to that person's demise. If there's any dispute over the exact date of a celebrity's demise, information listed on the death certificate will prevail. Dewey's Death Pool is open to residents of the 50 United States and the District of Columbia who are 18 years or older. For complete rules, see the Official Rules. [INLINE] home | entry | rules _________________________________________________________________ Back to Webb Page Confidential ------- End of forwarded message -------

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HIP97 photos & hate speech in list opinions
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunks (and Bcc list), I've had a kind offer from Judith to scan my HIP photos and display them on the web (www.sabotage.org) This should happen in a few days. The photos include Alex, Judith, DDT, Ulf, Ian Grigg, Lucky, Sameer, Joichi and others. Re: Hate speech and censorship, 22 Dec, Anonymous > On behalf of the non-racist cypherpunks, please accept an apology for > Paul Bradley's racist message: > > uneducated and foolish arabs such as Parekh should stick > > to what they do best: running kebab shops and/or selling cheap fake rolex > > watches to tourists. > This does not reflect the mainstream view on the list. .... I found Sameer perfectly pleasant. IMO the best view to take on mainstream views is that you can't usually tell. Silence could indicate killfiles rather than assent. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Long-distance limits on Bells unconstitutional [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: oldbear(a)pop.tiac.net Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:09:58 -0500 To: Digital Commerce Society of Boston <dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu> From: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> Subject: Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> HIGH-TECH'S LIBERATING EFFECT As the Internet makes inroads into information-restrictive nations, such as China, efforts to limit access to only "desirable" ideas are doomed to failure, say experts. "The complaint one hears against the Internet isn't that there is too little speech," says Manhattan Institute analyst Peter Huber. "Instead, the argument is that there is too much hateful or pornographic speech. Stalin manipulated the past, altering photos and just wiping people and events out of the historical record. But today, documents and photos get downloaded and stored in files all over the world. You can make corrupt copies, false copies, but you can't erase real copies now." Huber, author of the book "Orwell's Revenge," applauds the move by industry to make encryption products widely available: "It means that we can now create a zone of privacy that the government can't penetrate. That's the exact opposite of what Orwell through would happen." source: Investor's Business Daily December 30, 1997 as summarized by Edupage For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns]
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May <tcmay@got net> continues the sniping discussion: >I haven't seen Jim's reaction to my point about bolt-action rifles still >being far and away the favored weapon for sniping. Neither an AR-15 variant >nor an HK variant are advised for long-range shots (though either will of >course be capable of such shots...it's just that one wants the absolute >best precsion, and cycling rate is largely immaterial). In a rich target environment where you're firing from concealment, I think it is better to have a semiauto 7.62mmN rifle such as an accurized HK91 or a national match M1A, assuming the enemy has snipers or long-range antisniper weaponry. Why? 1) It is likely to be a target rich environment. USMC sniper doctrine is mainly single target single kill attacks from outside 600 yards. Former Soviet and US Army snipers mainly engaged multiple targets inside that range for tactical support. Defending against a raid is primarily tactical support sniping, killing the vice president of a country other than the US is primarily USMC style scout/sniping. Thus, in defending against a raid, Soviet-style weapons are probably better. 7.62x54R Dra----v rifles are probably a good model -- iirc (I've never fired one), they're semi auto bullpups. [eeek, www.guns.ru is selling them with bayonets! tactical close range sniping, aye!]. Or the SEAL sniper weapon -- an accurized M14, which is basically an M1A. With a good scope and better trigger, an M14/M1A can be 1 MOA, and it's a real battle rifle, with the ability to engage multiple targets quickly due to the semi-auto action. Also, when you're operating without a spotter/security man, it's nice to have the ability to quickly kill anyone in close. With an M1A, you just move from your concealment, kill, and return, wasting a minimum of time. I guess in a home you could just keep an AR-15 next to you for such close-in dealings, though. 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised concealment locations are great during firing, but when you move to cycle the action on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment shake or otherwise reveal yourself. Against a force with sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely bring down a hail of fire, which is suboptimal at best. USMC snipers generally solve this by firing once and leaving, since it's confusing and hard to localize on a single gunshot, but in a target rich environment, you might not be able to move. And they may have you surrounded, so it's hard to move without being seen. 3) A semi-auto is generally more useful for non-sniping tasks. I can barely carry an M1A, spare ammo, supplies, etc. for a couple days without being annoyed at the weight -- I sure wouldn't want to add a SMG or assault carbine to that. I would not have a problem with using a battle rifle/sniper rifle against a force armed with assault carbines and SMGs, though. True, this may be less of an issue inside a house, since you could just leave all your supplies cached throughout. I still thing you need to remain concealed and hopefully in cover, and if they bring heavy weapons to bear, you are going to have to move around the house, at least. A PSG-1 ends up being cheaper than 10 match-grade Remington 700s -- besides, the scope is much more expensive than the gun anyway (perhaps I just like overly expensive scopes) All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, I'd take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style scout-sniping, or antimateriel sniping, and either a PSG-1 if money is no object (it's not *that* expensive, if you actually use it), or the German Army sniping system (or my^H^Ha national match M1A or M14) if money is only somewhat an object, or a Dragunov if money is a limiting factor, for anti-sniping or support sniping. And I strongly feel anti-raid sniping is of the latter category. (True, your gun is the best 7.62 USMC-style rifle other than the PSG-1..) Even better than that would be the addition of a spotter/security person with an M16 :) And some nice *cover* for where you fire from, in the form of earth, concrete, sandbags, or Spectra. And if the sky is the limit, something to engage light armor, like a 20mm rifle or tactical air support :) *ObCrypto!*: The choice of cryptographic tools is somewhat like the choice of sniper weaponry. A OTP is remarkably like a bolt-action rifle of infinite accuracy. Say, a USAF prototype 20mm laser guided sniper rifle. Use it twice in the same place, and get slagged in automatic cannon fire. However, it is ideal for "one shot one kill" perfect secrecy. A steganographically-protected data stream is much like a silenced subsonic carbine. A remailer network is much like a remote electrically-fired weapon (someone at a pistol match tried this with a free pistol, won, and the technique was banned the next year :) PGP is the PSS -- pretty [good] sniping system, pretty good precision. Useful for a lot of things, and since it's one of the better tools, it gets used for a lot of things where another solution might be better. :) Of course, I'd be kind of biased to call a working Eternity implementation and/or working and distributed digital cash system the PSG-1. -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] > From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> > Date: 01 Jan 1998 13:47:02 -0500 > 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised concealment > locations are great during firing, but when you move to cycle the action > on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment shake or otherwise reveal > yourself. Against a force with sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely > All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, I'd > take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style scout-sniping, or You obviously haven't seen the flash or the dust cloud from one of these beasties fired from ground level. Hiding at anything less than a mile is not something you're going to do very well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Mobile phones used as trackers
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Mobile phones used as trackers > BY MICHAEL EVANS AND NIGEL HAWKES > > MOBILE PHONES can be used as tracking devices to > pinpoint users within a few hundred yards, according to a > report yesterday. > > Sonntags Zeitung, published in Zurich, said Swiss police > had been secretly tracking mobile phone users through a > telephone company computer. > > "Swisscom [the state-owned telephone company] has > stored data on the movements of more than a million > mobile phone users and can call up the location of all its > mobile subscribers down to a few hundred metres and > going back at least half a year," the paper reports, adding: > "When it has to, it can exactly reconstruct, down to the > minute, who met whom, where and for how long for a > confidential tte--tte." Anyone who desires not to be constantly tracked should carry a one-way pager and keep your cell phone turned off. This way you can return calls when it suits you and from a location of your choosing. In some U.S. localities I understand, it it possible to rent cellphone w/o offering any form of ID, only a deposit to cover the instrument and a prepayment for the airtime This may be illegal in some EU countries. To keep someone from correlating your pager info and cellular you'd want your callers to send 'coded' info, rather than phone numbers. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 Lammar Laboratories | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Okay, I'd like to set up a remailer - but I don't know where to start! Unfortunatly it's going to have to run on an NT 4.0 box, so the winsock remailer is out of the question, right? And I'm not in the US, so I can't use the juno stuff -- so what (if anything) *can* I use? Thanks for any help...

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Re: HIP97 photos
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alex de Joode : > Hmm, I think she only got 3 photos .. End of one film. The rest are in the post now. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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W.F. Friedman - A reputation revisited?...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Thought I would pass an interesting quote along regarding Friedman. I think it may have some interest considering the holding of Friedman by some cpunks... Combined Fleet Decoded: The secret history of American intelligence and the Japanese navy in WWII John Prados ISBN 0-679-43701-0 pp. 164 "This is not to say the solution occurred in a vacuum, however. It was OP-20-G that had solved Red, predecessor to the new diplomatic system, and Commander Safford recognized that his organization needed outside help on Purple. He went to his Army counterpart, The Signal Intelligence Service (SIS), which formed part of the Signal Corps: there, senior cryptanalyst William F. Friedman, was an expert on machine based encipherment systems. Under Friedman, chief of the team attacking the B Machine would be Frank B. Rowlett. Other SIS cryptanalysts, an electronics engineer, accounting machine experts, and Japanese linguist formed the rest of the group. Friedman, too often given credit as the man who "broke" Purple, made only sporadic contributions amid other duties. His main role came in selecting members of Rowlett's team, with an assist on diagnosis and analysis of the sytsem. Robert O. Ferner was Rowlett's second, with cryptanalysts Genevieve Grotjan, Albert W. Small, and Samuel S. Snyder plus crytographic specialists Glenn S. Landig, Kenneth D. Miller, and Cyrus C. Sturgis Jr. The top Japanese linguist was John B. Hurt, a Virginian like Rowlett himself." ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Banned video "Democratic Alternative" now online
by SPG 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The "Democratic Alternative for the Basque Country" video (banned in Spain) is now available in RealVideo format thanks to Contrast.Org. You can watch or download the video from the Euskal Herria Journal "mirror" sites: http://www.osis.ucsd.edu/~ehj http://www.contrast.org/mirrors/ehj Leaders of Herri Batasuna in Bizkaia and Gipuzkoa were jailed on Friday to begin serving their seven year prison sentences for having disseminated ETA's peace proposal, the Democratic Alternative. On December 1, 1997, Spain's Supreme Court convicted the entire leadership of Herri Batasuna of "collaborating with an armed group" and sentenced them to seven years each in prison for attempting to show a video (The Democratic Alternative), a proposal for cease-fire and peace from the Basque armed organization ETA during an election campaign broadcast last year. The court failed to prove the participation of each of the 23 politicians in the decision to broadcast the video and thus, it violates the principle of the presumption of innocence. The judges considered that a crime was committed when in fact the video had never been broadcasted. Moreover, the judges applied Franco's Penal Code, which declared the crime of "collaborating with an armed band" as any type of collaboration with the activities and goals of an armed group. It thus criminalizes the role of intermediary in disseminatiing negotiating positions or peace proposals in a bitter and long standing conflict. When Herri Batasuna first showed the video in public meetings in early 1996, Spain's National Court (Franco's Tribunal of Public Order renamed) banned the video. The then Socialist government--more than 14 of whose police and senior government officials and a Civil Guard general have been formally charged for their involvement in the creation, funding, and activities of the death squads that killed at least 28 suspected Basque activists in the mid 1980s--instructed the attorney general to investigate whether Herri Batasuna should be outlawed. Herri Batasuna then attempted to use segments of the ETA video to disseminate the peace proposal in their election campaign but its broadcast was banned. In May 1996, the Socialist lost the general elections to the Partido Popular (Popular Party, founded by Franco's Minister of Interior). In January 1997, Spain's Supreme Court decided to prosecute the 23 leaders of Herri Batasuna. Over 30,000 people rallied in February in the Basque city of Bilbo to protest the prosecution of the Herri Batasuna leadership. The demonstration, which was initially peaceful, turned into a violent confrontation when the police opened fire with live ammunition, wounding several people. In June, an International Commission for Freedom of Expression presented the Manifesto to the Public Opinion and the International Community in support of free speech and opposition to the trial against Herri Batasuna. The president of Sinn Fein, Gerry Adams, and other distinguished individuals are among the 700 signatories who endorsed the Manifesto. International observers from human rights organizations in eleven countries watching the proceedings issued a joint statement saying that the accused were given the burden of proof which "violates the fundamental principle of the presumption of innocence." Basque political parties have strongly criticized the sentences, saying that the trial was politically motivated and dashed hopes for a peace dialogue. Herri Batasuna attorneys said that nothing had been proven and that the trial was intended to outlaw a political party which represents much of the vote of the Basque people. They will appeal the sentence.

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:18 PM 1/1/98 +0000, Paul Bradley wrote: >> It is about basic human decency, and giving a person a fighting chance. >No, acts of law which require employers not to discriminate against >niggers, wops, kikes or greezers, or any other ratial group infringe >basic rights of association, I personally have no racist prejudices, but >recognise the freedom of others to be as bigotted as they care to be. Does that include the krauts, micks, limeys, frogs as well as the canucks and pea soup eaters? The polacks, chinks and dagos? The Wogs too? Can't we all be ethnic slurs together? Which reminds me. We never did get a good one for the Russians. Any nominations? -=-=- Censorship is OK if it is of them. -- the F-C motto

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:13 PM 1/1/98 +0000, Paul Bradley wrote: > >> > Should the government be able to take action against me because I fire >> > someone for being jewish/black/homosexual??? >> >> Welcome to the 20th Century, moron. > >You clearly have no comprehension of the principles of the free market >and the rights of businesses and individual to hire and fire whoever the >fuck they like for any reason whatsoever. I am no racist, but I defend >your right to be as racist as you see fit. You are obviously an evil person if you do so against the self annointed, even though they self identify themselves as 30% racist. -=-=- Censorship is OK if it is of them. -- the F-C motto

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Need secondary DNS
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking for somebody outside North America to run a secondary DNS for cypherpunks.to. Please email me directly, not the list. Thanks, -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"

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Re: Defamation of the goverment
by rights＠super.zippo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >In the U. S. a public figure must show actual malice and reckless disregard >for truth to recover damages for defamation. >But how does this apply to the >goverment itself, the president, and to a foreign goverment? >Seditious speech >against the U. S. goverment is protected under Brandenburg v. Ohio >But what if >for instance a Singaporian or German citizen uses a remailer in California to >insult the head of state, the goverment or the rulingparty at home? >Would >willfully promotion of falsehood about a foreign goverment or a foreign >goverment institution be protected speech? >Could the Singaporian or German >head of state or any goverment institution within these countries recover >damages for defamation committed in the U.S. through a local SP? >As far I >understand it, there is two matters of relevance. >1) Sed¹tious advocacy under >the Brandenburg standard. >2) Defamation precedence in which the Supreme Court >ruled that a public figure has to demonstrate actual malice and reckless >disregard for truth. >The Supreme Court has never ruled that _all_ speech is >protected unless it is directed to incite or produce imminent lawless or >likely to incite or produce such action. >Does this mean that defamation >against the goverment or a foreign goverment could be subject for civil action >as long the statute applied would meet the Sullivan standard? >

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Remailer
by remailer＠geocities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Check out <http://www.cyberpass.net/~winsock/>, for a remailer that will run on any winsock compatible connection. I think there is a ftp site in europe. I can't remember if it runs on NT, so check out the site. At 10:58 AM 1/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >Okay, I'd like to set up a remailer - but I don't know where to start! Unfortunatly it's going to have to run on an NT 4.0 box, so the winsock remailer is out of the question, right? And I'm not in the US, so I can't use the juno stuff -- so what (if anything) *can* I use? > >Thanks for any help... > > > > > >

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RE: Location Escrow anyone ?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all, >> "Swisscom has stored data on the movements of more than a million mobile >> phone users. It can call up the location of all its mobile subscribers down >> to a few hundred meters and going back at least half a year," the paper >> reported. > >They probably say a few hundred meters so the people don't feel >their privacy is too ridiculously invaded / soften the blow. > >If this is a GSM network then I think they can probably pinpoint >your location down to 2 possible locations within a few meters >due to the digital timing involved with the very precise spread >spectrum radio. Or maybe your actual location within a meter or 2. > >I have heard of digital mobile phones that have a feature in their test/diag >mode that displays the distance to the current base station in meters, >and also displays info of a second base station that it would most likely >switch to when moving out of the current cell. >Even if the telco only had the distance info to your phone within a meter >from 2 of their base stations, they could calculate where you are if need >be to 2 possible locations within meters. >Surely though they would have the capability of recording distance info >from 3 base stations, pin pointing you exactly during a call or the exact >spot your phone requested a cell change. > >And during a call, if need be, they could probably plot your position at >around 10,000 samples per second. :) Though for them to be keeping >this much info on you, you are obviously being investigated. > >Isn't it ironic that people who use GSM for it's "security" can have this >much info of their whereabouts known to big brother/whoever? >Not to mention their actual conversation. > >Imagine Mr.Drug Dealer turns up to court and watches as the jury is >presented with a floorplan on screen and an animated pinpoint of his >phones position while a recording of his conversation is played in sync? > >The world just about, has no idea! >To say big brother is watching is a gross understatement. :) > >He's gunna find out who's naughty and nice. > >Bye for now.

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] (fwd)
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1/1/98 2:19 PM, Jim Choate (ravage(a)ssz.com) passed this wisdom: >> Subject: Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] >> From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> >> Date: 01 Jan 1998 13:47:02 -0500 > >> 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised >> concealment locations are great during firing, but when you move >> to cycle the action on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment >> shake or otherwise reveal yourself. Against a force with >> sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely > >> All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, >> I'd take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style >> scout-sniping, or > >You obviously haven't seen the flash or the dust cloud from one of >these beasties fired from ground level. Hiding at anything less >than a mile is notsomething you're going to do very well. IIRC, the Barret gun with all its gear is also a multiperson load as well, so the 'alone' part isn't very valid either. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNKx6SD7r4fUXwraZAQEzGgf/Ymp7/s0+FlgpBQgNs81x8cqasRAjFrIf gvF0fG+XsLeoDaeohFf1uKUktkYE0zoO5G3IBBY9QJ69uPYDKlyFfQJldWYHPL56 2i9bfMuqnrj+sCOLJl54X/WaucO9WrUYNC16RulXblPohj8HBqGp9y73iybbfycb mQdbfhyTYeuM5X3vjcCOVzKHTl4hPqxijeJjL4OUtx5NeUDnZWlp9PRkVDY5CHLu dvr8LJvmbF9vzUSOLAjUeHD3j8rjzR8wRQ9ZeeDkH6leevjuI1NAH/J1xB5bWxgC zrzud/QFgs0rX38YZlLnpP4iekXcqWaq2j+SfptBD1BthK7nuqf9mg== =33z2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Saying windows 95 is equal to Macintosh is like finding a potato that looks like Jesus and believing you've seen the Second Coming." -- Guy Kawasaki (MacWorld, Nov '95)

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Time to Pay the Piper
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> >To: "Attila T. Hun" <attila(a)hun.org>, > cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net> >Subject: Re: Making them eat their words... (while they watch!) >Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:56:54 -0800 > > At 05:15 PM 12/21/1997 +0000, Attila T. Hun wrote: >> there is only one solution to organizations like M$ >> which are operated without ethics: treat them to the >> pleasures of not only the antitrust laws but the >> exquisite delights of RICO. > Nonsense, and I'm surprised to hear this from you. No, Bill. it's not nonsense... 1) when a true market monopoly exists, society _is_ entitled to intervene. I wrote my Harvard thesis on antitrust and the effect on society of a monopoly, regulated in the public interest as in AT&T v. the industrial monopolies. this may have been 35 years ago, but the principles are even more imperative now with the increasing concentration of real wealth both individually and corporately in the hands of a few. 2) why should you be surprised to hear this from me? sure, I would prefer anarchy per se, but have absolutely no faith that the vast majority would do anything except rape, pillage, and plunder. and, I think I have made my beliefs more than plain over the history trail of cypherpunks. anarchy is nothing more than an isolationist theory; as a political system it does not work --never has, never will. ergo, there is a need for some government in the interest of the people (sheeple, if you prefer). man has not proved his worth on this planet, and whether or not you believe in God is irrelevant. the last several generations have bequeathed a wilting, dying polluted earth to their children and grandchildren. therefore, I am neither your revolutionary anarchist nor your "lost in the clouds" libertarian idealist; I am just a pragmatist who wishes we could govern with an enlightened electorate in the manner of a New Hampshire town meeting; a pragmatist that I believe limited regulation is essential, but a foolish dreamer to hope for an enlightened electorate. > Treat them to the pleasures of the free market - > if you don't like them, start a Boycott M$ campaign, > and see if people stop buying their lousy software. no, Bill, there is no alternative in the mass market. A perfect example is Gate$ buying _both_ WebTV and their competitor to make sure he has _all_ the action. another is EnCarta. Gate$ gave it away until the other vendors dropped out of the market; now M$ charges for the encyclopedia. Gate$ is the perfect example of not only a pure monopoly with 90% of the OS market, but also a constructive monopoly who has leveraged the first position to force monopolies in other areas: 95% of word processing, 95% of spreadsheets, and approaching the total domination of the browser market. Secondly, Gate$ is spreading into the control of the means of distribution in cable, networks, etc. and likewise into media content. Gate$ current actions are those of a spoiled four year old child who sees nothing wrong with demanding it all. > The direct democracy of the free market is far more > appropriate than government here - it's $1/vote, > and if enough people vote against M$ they'll get the hint, > and it enough people vote _for_ M$, it's none of your > business. WRONG! when 90% of the voters are dependent on M$, M$ has bought the vote. to the average user, to vote against M$ is to vote against a free v. a not-free browser, etc. WRONG AGAIN: the OEM computer group has no choice either; software is available from virtually every software house for M$ --and only M$. therefore the OEM has no choice of operating system. without the software, any competing OS is useless. M$ has also intimidated and constrained the software houses. Corel is a good case in point with M$ threatening to withhold critical information on Windows 95 if Corel delivered their 32 bit product to OS/2 first. WRONG AGAIN: M$ has required OEMs to load Explorer as part of the "privilege" to be able to load the OS. That is restraint of trade. when they try to exercise total market control through their customers with their own marketing policies. WRONG AGAIN: M$ is forcing Explorer on totally non-related software vendors. Why should the accounting software vendor in MN be required to load Explorer to be able to distribute the OS --and, most additional M$ packages in networking, etc required Explorer for essential DLLs. this is "binding" in FTC unfair practices regulations. > It _is_ funny to see the Feds hiring a big corporate lawyer > to run their case; I guess they don't think Federal Prosecutors > are good enough. Surely if a low-level prosecutor can't hack it, > they should use their boss, and on up the hierarchical chain. > If Janet Reno can't do it either, they should replace her with > someone who can :-) GRIN? Bill, I'm surprised you would say this. Reno is not an anti-trust specialist. just how many of them are there in the country as a whole? not many? why? --not much anti-trust action; usually the FTC has been able to block mergers, etc. before they become a menace to society such as M$ has become. this is where the failure of the free market comes in: few companies manage to attain the total monopoly position; _none_ to date have done so with clean hands. frankly, Gate$' hands are dirtier than Cornelius Vanderbilt's hands were in his heyday; and Cornelius Vanderbilt made John D. Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan look like angels. Gate$' literally has not only violated the anti-trust laws and the FTC rules on fair competition, but he has done so deliberately in what can easily be defined as a conspiracy to limit or prevent access to the market --and that can be construed as a RICO offense --and should be. Neither Gate$ nor Ballmer show the slightest interest in backing off what they consider their God given rights in a free market to rape, pillage, and burn; they feel that M$ is entitled to tell the American (or world) buyer what he wants to buy. monopoly eliminates freedom of choice. I do not usually have much use for Jesse Berst, whom I generally consider a senseless and shameless M$ schill, like the rest of Ziff-Davis; however, this is what Jesse had to say Monday: Jesse Berst, 22 Dec. "I'm a fan of its [Microsoft's] accomplishments and its great products. More than that, I'm a fan of personal computing. That's why I can say that it's better for us -- and better for Microsoft -- if the DOJ forces the company to play fair. Only intense competition can keep a company from the hardening of the attitudes that eventually damaged companies such as IBM, Digital, Wang and Data General." to engender that competition, M$ needs to be forced to divest either operating systems or products. despite any imagined gains of their increasing integration, the market can not fall to a monolithic line and then expect further advances with no-one nipping at M$' heels unfortunately, M$ idea of competition has not been to be just the market leader --it has fostered an attitude that it can be the only player. and like all monopolies, M$ has fallen into the Al Sloan mode ("What's good for General Motors is good for the country"). more Jesse Berst, 22 Dec. "That's why I can say with all sincerity, the more you like Microsoft, the more you admire its accomplishments, the more you appreciate its products, the more you should root for the DOJ to win its latest case. Anybody who thinks otherwise should be forced to attend every single match of the World Wide Wrestling Federation next year. That will give them an up-close-and-painful taste of what happens when you do away with competition. Jesse, the Microsoft schill, is now at least as strident as I have been since the late 80s when the uncontrolled direction of Gate$' marketing and operating system leverage over office products became more than evident. the DOJ should have broken M$ into separate companies in 1994. instead, the DOJ made a deal with a "Joe Stalin", who, true to Lenin's manifestos, would sign any treaty which bought him time to develop the prohibited weapons --then he broke it. M$ violated the consent decree before it was certified in court and. in reality, applied even more onerous terms to the hardware OEM vendors; we are reaping the results of Gate$ incredible arrogance today. Gate$ also broke the public trust by arrogantly usurping by whatever means more of the market --his actions today are untenable in a civilized market. any suggestions that if you do not like M$, you should not buy M$ products are hollow inanities --to the public, there is no alternative --economies of scale and market dominance have wiped out all but a few niche market vendors. the sheeple never revolt; they just follow the Judas goat to the abattoir happily enjoying the free software while Gate$ builds his tollGate$ (nice pun --guess I will add that to my lexicon). the sheeple will not be happy when they find themselves being nicked for every transaction, on or off Gate$' networks. --and if Gate$ actions over the past 3 years were not enough, his ridiculous, affrontive, and offensive response to the Judge's order is prima facie evidence of not only a monopoly, not only a constructive monopoly, but a tyrannical, maniacal monster who is still a spoiled four year old brat with absolutely no conscience or sense of social responsibility. the fact Steve Ballmer, et al, echo this dictatorial policy in violation of US law is prima facia evidence of an ongoing criminal enterprise which employs extortion --yes, literally extortion-- in the furtherance of its business plan --and this is a RICO offense for which Gate$ and his henchman certainly appear to have deservedly earned the right to 3 hots and a cot for the 20 years minimum on the lesser RICO charge, or mandatory life imprisonment on a conspiracy of greater than 6. Secondly, none of Gate$ lieutenants and captains can claim they acted under orders; it wont fly any more than it flew at Nuremberg. Esther Dyson (with Margie Wylie of CNET) But it is big government that's watching them, not ... Yes--and that's why we need to keep...I mean, God bless the Justice Department for fighting Microsoft; God bless Microsoft for creating good products, and the customers for keeping everybody in line. This is what I want: I don't want anybody to win. I want the game to keep going. I want little guys to keep on coming up and tweaking the noses of the big guys. I've always been a believer in antitrust. It's the concentration of power that bothers me, not whether it's "for profit" or "for government." And I've never claimed to be or not to be a Libertarian. People put labels on things and stop thinking. a good clear statement from Dyson on the public interest. do you think M$ should be permitted to behave in their autocratic and callous manner towards software developers who have no need for Explorer? Brian Glaeske, a programmer/analyst with Fargo, North Dakota-based Great Plains Software, complained to the US Justice Department last month that Microsoft effectively requires him and others to provide its browser in his accounting software, which has nothing to do with the World Wide Web or the Internet. "Microsoft should not be permitted to force third-party developers to redistribute Microsoft Internet Explorer in order to use [new] features," Glaeske wrote to Joel Klein, the Justice Department's top pursuer of antitrust allegations. is not Glaeske's position reasonable? the real point however, does not relate to the browser; the bottom line is that Glaeske, and most of the software developers, do not have an alternative to Microsoft as an operating system. Oh, sure, some clients will run Unix flavours and there are vendors for most high profile applications on unix and OS/2, but the vast majority (90%) of the clients take the easy way out and go Microsoft --M$ is what the employees have at home; M$ is what the "trained" employees have used before.... there are millions of arguments, after WinTel being cheaper, why they should not change --starting with "why should we be different?" a pure free market is anarchy; anarchy may be a wonderful idea for utopian people; the human race is far from being anything except a selfish, greedy collection of individuals who are constrained either by the threats of fire and brimstone from the church, or the laws of the land which punish transgressions of socially acceptable behaviour --fair or not. even Teddy Roosevelt wrote that anarchists should be hunted down and exterminated like vermin. William H. Gates III is just another robber baron who really believes the statement: "What's good for Microsoft is good for the country." Al Sloan never realized his monopoly with General Motors, although there have been periods where GM was over 50% of the market (when Chrysler was close to failing). Bill Gates has created an effective monopoly _world_ _wide_ which far surpasses any monopoly ever created by one individual or company; even John D. Rockefeller did not come close to Gate$' power. John D. was also rather benevolent. IBM never approached Gate$' level of monopoly. Gate$ has proven, and is proving while the very litigation is going on, that he is not a benevolent monopolist; there is only one way: Bill's way, and everyone will think like Bill, or they will be the vermin to be exterminated. and, that, my friends, is why there is such a thing as the public interest; and it should have been exercised on BadBillyG in 1994. my vote goes to prosecute Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, at the very least, for violations of the Sherman Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act, and the Robinson-Patman amendments (FTC, etc.) to the full extent of the law, including criminal violations as warranted under those titles; and prosecute under the RICO statutes for an ongoing racketeering (extortion is racketeering) and criminal enterprise. frankly, I am disappointed that it has come to this, but Gate$ greed and lust for power has not only exceeded his common sense, it has transgressed the boundary of baseline social responsibility. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. 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