December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Reef & the US Postal Service... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Mon Dec 29 14:26:57 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712292026.OAA03349(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Reef & the US Postal Service... To: friends(a)ssz.com (Ravage's Friends) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:26:49 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2281 Hi, I was playing with my dog Reef today in the yard. The postal carrier came up and she went over to investigate, barking as usual. The postal carrier responded by kicking at her and waving mail in her face all the while getting closer and closer. This did nothing to calm her down. I tried to talk to the guy while restraining the dog, who was crouched down on all fours in a defensive position, but he just walked off without a word. I went down to the post office and filed a complaint. The supervisor at the post office asked me whether he had struck the dog and when I explained that had he struck the dog or tried to mace her I would have struck the carrier and taken him to the police station, he got defensive and began threatening me with federal action. I explained that was fine with me, let's do it. It's amazing that federal employees believe they can come on private property, vandalize it with immunity, and if you attempt to defend yourself then you are the one in the wrong. I can't wait till/if the postal rep calls back on the mail-in complaint form I sent off today... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Searching_for_representatives
by cypherpunks＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Paul.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

8:00 PM 2/27/1997 Too Far Rep. Paul's comments about Waco irresponsible U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Surfside, said on C-SPAN that he lived in fear of being "bombed by the federal government in another Waco." Paul has embarrassed himself, his constituents and the state of Texas. The congressman needs to put aside his hysteria long enough to remember the facts of the standoff between federal agents and the Branch Davidians: Members of the cult gunned down federal agents who had come to serve a search warrant at the Davidian compound, which they accurately believed to contain automatic weapons and other illegal armaments. Before that, the group's leader had sexually assaulted several children of his followers. The FBI allowed the group weeks to lay down its arms and surrender. Some members and their children did surrender and received every consideration from authorities; others set fire to their own building, causing the deaths of 81 people, including 25 children. Paul is wrong to state that the government bombed the Davidians and to imply further that Americans should fear that their lives might be ended any moment by murderous, renegade federal law enforcement officers. His irresponsible remarks encourage the irrational fears that were the root cause of the Davidian tragedy and make similar confrontations more likely. Rep. Chet Edwards of Waco perhaps had the best advice for Paul. If the congressman really fears he will be bombed by federal agents, he should leave Washington.

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Re: Paul.html
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by Scott＠planet.eon.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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thomas.html (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Mon Dec 29 20:38:05 1997 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:38:04 -0600 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712300238.UAA04509(a)einstein.ssz.com> X-within-URL: http://www.courttv.com/library/rights/thomas.html To: friends(a)ssz.com Subject: thomas.html Court TV Library Justice Thomas on 'Heroes and Victims' Legal Times Clarence Thomas may keep a lower profile than many of his colleagues on the Supreme Court bench. But when he does speak out, he almost always makes an impact. That was the case late last month, when Thomas made headlines with a speech excoriating what he termed "the modern ideology of victimhood." In his remarks, delivered to the Federalist Society's Ninth Annual Lawyers Convention, Thomas criticized contemporary society for exalting victims -- in not only the political realm, but in the courts as well. He marveled at the breadth and depth of the victim mentality, finding irony in the white men today who, "preoccupied with oppression," have "fallen prey to the very aspects of the modern ideology of victimology that they deplore." And, sounding a classic conservative theme, Thomas concluded that "the idea that government can be the primary instrument for the elimination of misfortune is a fundamental misunderstanding of the human condition." The full text of Thomas' speech, delivered Sept. 22 in Washington, D.C., follows. It is reprinted with permission. _________________________________________________________________ I would like thank my friends here at the Federalist Society for once again inviting me to be a part of an important and timely conference. And I would like to begin by returning to a topic I touched upon in my last speech at a conference co-sponsored by this organization: personal responsibility. It says something about the current state of affairs in our society that a conference on victims -- that is, a conference on the rise of the practice of blaming circumstances for one's situation rather than taking responsibility for changing things for the better -- is even necessary. As many of you have heard me say before, the very notion of submitting to one's circumstances was unthinkable in the household in which I was raised. The mere suggestion that difficult circumstances could prevail over individual effort would evoke a response that my brother and I could lip-sync on cue: "Old man 'can't' is dead; I helped bury him." Or, another favorite response: "Where there is a will, there is a way." Under this philosophy -- the essential truth of which we all recognize in our hearts -- victims have no refuge. It may have seemed harsh at the time to be told that failure was one's own fault. Indeed, there may have been many circumstances beyond our control. But there was much that my family and my community did to reinforce this message of self-determination and self-worth, thereby inoculating us against the victim plague that was highly contagious in the hot, humid climate of segregation. What has become clear to me over the years, as I have witnessed the transformation of our society into one based upon victims rather than heroes, is that there is a more positive message to be gained from adversity: Success (as well as failure) is the result of one's own talents, morals, decisions, and actions. Accepting personal responsibility for victory as well as for defeat is as liberating and empowering as it is unpopular today. Overcoming adversity not only gives us our measure as individuals, but it also reinforces those basic principles and rules without which a society based upon freedom and liberty cannot function. In those years of my youth, there was a deep appreciation of heroes and heroic virtue. Art, literature, and even popular culture (unlike today) often focused on people who demonstrated heroic virtues -- courage, persistence, discipline, hard work, humility, triumph in the face of adversity, just to mention a few. These building blocks of self-reliance were replicated and reinforced at home, school, and church. The "rags to riches" Horatio Alger stories were powerful messages of hope and inspiration to those struggling for a better life. And many of us used to read and dream about heroes -- not to mention our favorite television heroes, something perhaps unbelievable these days. I am certain that many of you who attended grammar school in the 1950s or earlier probably remember reading a favorite account of the integrity and work ethic of George Washington, or of Abraham Lincoln, or of George Washington Carver, or even of some baseball or football legend. It seemed that we all had heroes (not role models, a term of far more recent vintage). Indeed, it would have been odd for a child of several decades ago not to have had a hero. But today, our culture is far less likely to raise up heroes than it is to exalt victims -- individuals who are overcome by the sting of oppression, injustice, adversity, neglect, or misfortune. Today, victims of discrimination, racism, poverty, sickness, and societal neglect abound in the popular press. Today, there are few (if any) heroes. Often, it seems that those who have succumbed to their circumstances are more likely to be singled out than those who have overcome them. What caused this cultural shift -- from an emphasis on heroes to a preoccupation with victims? Why are there more victims and virtually no heroes recognized today? Why in years past was there much less of an emphasis on victimage? I think two things contributed to this change in the state of affairs. The first is that our political and legal systems now actively encourage people to claim victim status and to make demands on society for reparations and recompense. The second is that our culture actually seeks to denigrate or deconstruct heroes. Why would a civilized society travel down two such destructive paths? Why has it become no more admirable to rise valiantly above one's circumstances than it is to submit to them -- all the while aggressively transferring responsibility for one's condition to others? Let's begin with our political and legal systems -- how have they contributed to this state of affairs? The classical conception was that government and the law were meant to ensure freedom and equality of opportunity by giving people the most room possible for self-provision and self-determination. James Madison made this point in The Federalist Papers when he observed that the "protection" of the "diversity of faculties in men" was the "first object" of government. And, in more recent times, the great political economist Friedrich von Hayek -- who witnessed totalitarianism first-hand -- made a similar point when he observed that "the chief aim of freedom is to provide both the opportunity and the inducement to insure the maximum use of the knowledge that an individual can acquire." Between the New Deal and the 1960s, a far different view began to hold sway -- namely, that the role of the state was to eliminate want, suffering, and adversity. Freedom was no longer simply a right to self-provision and self-determination, but was instead a right to make demands on government and society for one's well-being and happiness. That is the import of Franklin Roosevelt's "Citizen Bill of Rights," which spoke of freedom from want -- rights to minimum income, housing, and other "adequate protections from economic fears." And, I think it is axiomatic that the call for such new rights (if not claims) became ever more prevalent in the 1950s and 1960s. No doubt, this gradual transformation in ideas took root and flourished (at least in part) because of the aggregate growth in wealth and resources we were witnessing in this country during the course of the 20th century. Against the background of this prosperity, poverty stood out in bold relief and in uncomfortably stark contrast -- even as the number of people suffering from it shrank. It is not surprising that people began to think that, in a world of seemingly unlimited resources, adversity could be eliminated, or, at the very least, remedied. The ideal of the "benevolent state" took hold. In our "enlightened" society, neglect, misfortune, and injustice did not have to be accepted as inevitable facts of life. Good government and laws could step in when necessary, as many believed they had successfully done during two World Wars, the Great Depression, and the civil rights movement. If one assumes that suffering and adversity can be eliminated, but sees a number of people continuing to suffer from adversity or misfortune, then there must be some forces in society that relegate the "have nots" to this fate. Or, at the very least, the less fortunate are being ignored. Those facing adversity, hence, are victims of a society that is not doing as much as it could (if it so desired), and these victims can (and should) stake a legitimate claim against the political and legal systems for recompense. In this view, neglect or selfishness on the part of society and government is responsible for the sting of oppression, injustice, and misfortune that the unfortunate and "have nots" feel today. In light of this modern ideology, is it any surprise that people identify themselves as victims and make demands on the political systems for special status and entitlements? Our culture expects (and, indeed, encourages) people to do exactly that. Consider, for example, the creation and continued expansion of the welfare state and other social programs in this country. How often have we heard proponents of these programs lull the poor into thinking that they are hopeless victims, incapable of triumphing over adversity without "benevolent intervention" by the state? How often have we heard these proponents encouraging the less fortunate in our society to become indignant about their situation in life and more demanding on the political system to find solution to their problems? It is not only in the political system, though, that we see our society and its leaders succumbing to the modern ideology of victimhood. As with the political system, people today also are strongly encouraged to make demands on the legal system by claiming victim status. Indeed, the legal system has, in many ways, become a significant driving force behind the modern ideology of victimhood. Courts are viewed as an effective means of forcing (or at least pressuring) political institutions into meeting demands for protected status and new rights or entitlements. Pointing to perceived "victimization" by "the system" or by others in society, our legal culture has often told the least fortunate in our society that their last hope is to claim special legal rights and benefits, or to seek exoneration for the harmful, criminal consequences of their acts. The least fortunate are encouraged to turn to legal arguments that admit defeat and that challenge the moral authority of society. In these ways, courts are called upon to solve social problems -- by creating special rules, and by crafting remedies that will satisfy the claims and demands of victim groups but that do not apply to all of us. Appealing to the legal system, though, was not as easy a task as making demands on the political system. Our legal system has traditionally required that redress for grievances only be granted after very exacting standards have been met. There had to be, for example, very distinct, individualized harm. And, the definition of harm was circumscribed by a traditional understanding of adjudication under the common law, where narrow disputes regarding traditional property rights were resolved among private parties who could not settle matters on their own. Very generalized claims of misfortune or oppression or neglect -- the kinds of assertions made in the political system -- would not easily fit into this common mold of court activity. It would not be enough for people to be indignant, angry, and demanding about their situation in life. There would have to be an assertion of a legal wrong and a persuasive argument that a legal remedy was available. The pressure of victimology "revolutionized" -- and that word does not always have positive connotations -- the courts and the law. For those in our culture seeking to use the courts as agents of social change, poverty, unemployment, social deviancy, and criminal behavior were not just unfair conditions in our society that could be eliminated if only people or politicians cared. Instead, these abstract problems were personified as the direct actions of local schools, churches, businesses, and other social institutions so that they could be sued for causing individualized harm to the victims. Based on this new kind of harm -- a kind of legalistic understanding of "victimage" -- the courts were said to be obligated to recognize special rights and protected status under the law. Take, for example, welfare rights and due process. Beginning with Goldberg v. Kelly, 397 U.S. 254 (1970), our cases underscored the importance of welfare as a means of preventing social malaise, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for all Americans. The rights to life, liberty, and property were, in effect, transformed from freedom from government interference into a right to welfare payments. There are countless other examples in legal literature and judicial opinions -- some have argued that inner city minorities and the poor should not be held responsible for the consequences of their criminal acts because of oppression and misfortune; and, of course, there is the debate now raging about preferences based on sex, race, and ethnicity. This change in our political and legal systems has been accompanied by the rise of the "victim group." These groups are quite useful to public officials for building coalitions for future political support and legitimacy, as well. And, for the courts, "victim groups" provide useful justification or cover for energizing the legislative process, changing the legislative agenda, forcing reconsideration of spending priorities, and transforming public debate. But the rise of victimhood, and its perpetuation by government and the law, is only part of the modern tragedy. There is also the dearth of heroes in our culture. Significantly, as the number of these "victim groups" has escalated, there has been a corresponding decline in the amount of attention that our culture has paid to heroes or, even worse, a conscious attempt to cheapen their achievements. Today, success or a commitment to fighting for noble ideas is attributed to self-interest, revenge, self-aggrandizement, insecurity, or some psychological idiosyncrasy. Just thumb through recently published biographies in the library or bookstore -- in many of them, it is not a conscious effort to be virtuous or to do good, but instead a series of unforeseeable and external forces, that lead to greatness or success. And, in many of these biographies, we are introduced to the uncut, "never before seen" foibles, mistakes, and transgressions of people our culture idealized for centuries. The message: that these so-called heroes are really just regular people capable of folly and vice who happened to have a few good breaks. In Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville anticipated this state of affairs when he said: "Historians who live in democratic times do not only refuse to admit that some citizens may influence the destiny of a people, but also take away from the people themselves the faculty of modifying their own lot and make them depend on an inflexible providence or a kind of blind fatality." Now, the problem these days is not that there are no people who should be singled out as heroes. Rather, as Daniel Boorstin suggests in his book, The Image, society is preoccupied with celebrities. And heroism and celebrity status are two very different things. The word "hero" refers to people of great strength, integrity, or courage who are recognized and admired for their accomplishments and achievements. The word "celebrity," on the other hand, refers to a condition -- the condition of being much talked about. It is a state of notoriety or famousness. As Boorstin says, "A celebrity is a person who is known for his well-knownness." Thus, while a hero is distinguished by his achievement, celebrities are created by the media and are simply a trademark. Celebrities are, in short, neither good nor bad -- they are just a big name. Publicity is the defining feature of a celebrity's existence, and, unlike a hero who will become greater as time passes, time destroys celebrities. Over time the glare of publicity, as Boorstin notes, melts away the celebrity by shedding light and heat on his vices and commonplaceness. This pattern of ignoring and deconstructing heroes -- and focusing instead on the ephemeral celebrity who is known for his well-knownness rather than character or individual worth -- stems from the rise of radical egalitarianism. In the 1960s, many of the cultural elite saw a need to ensure absolute equality. On this view, differences in ability and level of achievement are random or uncontrolled; and to permit these characteristics to dictate human happiness and well-being would therefore be unfair. Celebrity status, in contrast, is not a problem for egalitarians, for as Boorstin notes, "anyone can become a celebrity, if only he can get into the news and stay there." Certainly, real achievement is not necessarily required. It should surprise no one that our culture now has far less difficulty recognizing celebrities than it does those who achieve success as a result of personal effort and character traits that we traditionally would consider heroic. Denigrating heroic virtue -- in other words, chalking heroism up to circumstance -- fits quite well with the notion that we must all be the same and that there can be no significant differences in our achievement, social standing, or wealth. Anyone can see what these intellectual currents have done to the ideals of human dignity, personal responsibility, and self-determination. Preoccupation with victim status has caused people to focus covetously on what they do not have in comparison to others, or on what has happened to them in the past. Many fail to see the freedom they do have and the talents and resources that are at their disposal. Our culture today discourages, and even at times stifles, heroic virtues -- fortitude, character, courage, a sense of self-worth. For so many, the will, the spirit, and a firm sense of self-respect and self-worth have been suffocated. Many in today's society do not expect the less fortunate to accept responsibility for (and overcome) their present circumstances. Because they are given no chance to overcome their circumstances, they will not have the chance to savor the triumph over adversity. They are instead given the right to fret and complain, and are encouraged to avoid responsibility and self-help. This is a poor substitute for the empowering rewards of true victory over adversity. One of my favorite memories of my grandfather is how he would walk slowly by the cornfield, admiring the fruits of his labor. I have often thought that just the sight of a tall stand of corn must have been more nourishing to his spirit than the corn itself was to his body. But the culture of victimology -- with its emphasis on the so-called benevolent state -- delivers an additional (and perhaps worse) blow to dignity and self-worth. When the less fortunate do accomplish something, they are often denied the sense of achievement which is so very important for strengthening and empowering the human spirit. They owe all their achievements to the "anointed" in society who supposedly changed the circumstances -- not to their own efforts. Long hours, hard work, discipline, and sacrifice are all irrelevant. In a world where the less fortunate are given special treatment and benefits -- and, significantly, where they are told that whatever gains or successes they have realized would not be possible without protected status and special benefits -- the so-called beneficiaries of state-sponsored benevolence are denied the opportunity to derive any sense of satisfaction from their hard work and self-help. There is not a one among us who views what others do for us the same way we view what we do for ourselves. No matter how much we appreciate the help, it is still just that -- help, not achievement. It also bears noting that our culture's preoccupation with grouping victims has balkanized society. The "we/they" mentality of calling oneself a victim of society breeds social conflict and calls into question the moral authority of society. The idea that whole groups or classes are victims robs individuals of an independent spirit -- they are just moving along with the "herd" of other victims. Such individuals also lack any incentive to be independent, because they know that as part of an oppressed group they will neither be singled out for the life choices they make nor capable of distinguishing themselves by their own efforts. As victim ideology flourishes and people are demoralized by its grip, more and more people begin to think that they must claim victim status to get anywhere in this world. Indeed, is it any surprise that anyone and everyone can claim to be a victim of something these days? In his book The Abuse Excuse, Alan Dershowitz criticizes countless examples of conditions that "victimize" people and thereby release them from responsibility for their actions. Here are just a few examples: x The "black rage defense," which asserts that blacks who are constantly subjected to oppression and racial injustice will become uncontrollably violent; x "Urban survival syndrome," which claims that violent living conditions justify acts of aggression in the community; x "Self-victimization syndrome," which maintains that people become less productive and creative, and become severely depressed, as a result of societal neglect and discrimination. Most significantly, there is the backlash against affirmative action by "angry white males." I do not question a person's belief that affirmative action is unjust because it judges people based on their sex or the color of their skin. But something far more insidious is afoot. For some white men, preoccupation with oppression has become the defining feature of their existence. They have fallen prey to the very aspects of the modern ideology of victimology that they deplore. Some critics of affirmative action, for example, fault today's civil rights movement for demanding equality yet supporting policies that discriminate based on race. These critics expect the intended beneficiaries of the civil rights regime to break away from the ideology of victimhood: to cherish freedom, to accept responsibility, and, where necessary, to demonstrate fortitude in the face of unfairness. I do not quarrel with this. But these critics should hold themselves to the same standards, resisting the temptation to allow resentment over what they consider reverse discrimination to take hold of their lives and to get the best of them. They must remember that if we are to play the victim game, the very people they decry have the better claim to victim status. Of course, de-emphasizing heroism exacerbates all these problems. Human beings have always faced the temptation to permit adversity or hate to dominate and destroy their lives. To counter this tendency, society had heroes -- people capable of overcoming the very adversity or injustice that currently affects today's victims. They rose above their circumstances and inherent imperfections. Heroes cherished freedom, and tried to accomplish much with what little they had. Heroes demonstrated perseverance in the face of adversity and used hardship as a means to strive for greater virtue. And heroes accepted responsibility -- they did what they did despite fear and temptation, and tried to do the right thing when presented with a choice between good and evil. It is awfully hard for society to inculcate these values without some useful models from the past and present. I may not have realized it as a child, but my grandfather was a hero who had a tremendous impact on my life. He certainly would not be a celebrity by today's standards. Though barely able to read and saddled with the burdens of segregation, he worked hard to provide for his family. He was a deeply religious man who lived by the Christian virtues. He was a man who believed in responsibility and self-help. And though this could not bring him freedom in a segregated society, it at least gave him independence from its daily demeaning clutches. In all the years I spent in my grandparents' house, I never heard them complain that they were victims. Now, they did not like segregation or think that it was right. In fact, there was no question that it was immoral and that anyone who promoted it was morally reprehensible. But there was work to be done. I assure you that I did not enjoy the demands he placed on us. I saw no value in rising with the chicken, and, unlike him, I was not obsessed with what I will call the "reverse Dracula syndrome": that is, fear that the rising sun would catch me in bed. It would not be until I was exposed to the most fortunate and best educated in our society that I would be informed that all this time I had been a victim. I am sure you can imagine what it was like when I returned home to Savannah, and informed my grandparents that with the education I had received because of their tremendous foresight and sacrifice, I had discovered our oppressed and victimized status in society. Needless to say, relations were quite strained and our vacation visits were somewhat difficult. My grandfather was no victim and he didn't send me to school to become one. There are many people like my grandfather alive today. The cultural elite does not honor them as the heroes they are, but instead views them as people who are sadly ignorant of their victim status or who have forgotten where they came from. Our social institutions do not train today's young to view such people as heroes and do not urge them to emulate their virtues. In idealizing heroic virtue and criticizing the victim ideology of our day, I am not saying that society is free from intractable and very saddening injustice and harm. That would not be true. But the idea that government can be the primary instrument for the elimination of misfortune is a fundamental misunderstanding of the human condition. There has always been bad and suffering in the world, and we must admit that wrongs have been and will continue to be committed. People will always be treated unfairly -- we can never eliminate oppression or adversity completely, though we can and should fight injustice as best we can. But keep in mind that all of us are easily tempted to think of ourselves as victims and thereby permit adversity to be the defining feature of our lives. In so doing, we deny the very attributes that are at the core of human dignity -- freedom of will, the capacity to choose between good and bad, and the ability to endure adversity and to use it for gain. Victimhood destroys the human spirit. I also am not saying that we should expect everyone to be a hero all of the time. We humans are weak by our very nature; all of us at times will permit hardship to get the very best of us. But having a set of norms to guide us and to push us along -- the stuff of heroes -- can be a source of great strength. If we do not have a society that honors people who make the right choices in the face of adversity -- and reject the bad choices -- far fewer people will make the right choices. Ultimately, without a celebration of heroic virtue, we throw ourselves into the current state of affairs, where man is a passive victim incapable of triumphing over adversity and where aggression, resentment, envy, and other vice thwart progress and true happiness. What I am saying is that it requires the leadership of heroes and the best efforts of all to advance civilization and to ensure that its people follow the path of virtue. And, because of the role law has played in perpetuating victim ideology and because of the influence law can have in teaching people about right and wrong, lawyers have a special obligation here. We should seek to pare back the victimology that pervades our law, and thereby encourage a new generation of heroes to flourish. I am reminded of what Saint Thomas Kempis wrote more than 500 years ago about the human spirit. His standard is a useful one for thinking about the instruction that our law should be offering: "Take care to ensure that in every place, action, and outward occupation you remain inwardly free and your own master. Control circumstances, and do not allow them to control you. Only so can you be a master and ruler of your actions, not their servant or slave; a free man. . . ." Legal Times is an affiliate publication of Court TV. Copyright © 1995, American Lawyer Media L.P. _________________________________________________________________ Copyright 1996 by American Lawyer Media, L.P. All Rights Reserved. No parts of this site may be reproduced without permission of American Lawyer Media. Nothing in this site is intended to constitute legal advice.

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Anonymous IRC (was "Cypherpunks IRC Christmas Eve Party")
by Mark Hedges 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We found IRC users to be so involved in petty information wars -- ping floods, malicious prank hacking, and the like -- that we directed policy against use of IRC from the anonymous shell accounts at CyberPass. If IRC users weren't so easily lulled by the tempation to crash a server or run malicious bots or just plain irritate other people for fun, and if they would gang up and kick out people who did that, then perhaps we'd switch that back on. They were just too much overhead. Everyone else seems pretty nice, really, as far as the system goes. They're all self-interested in keeping the anonymous publishing and so on going, so the peace keeps itself. Mark Hedges Infonex and Anonymizer

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Hayek Quotes (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Mon Dec 29 22:37:18 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712300437.WAA04871(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Hayek Quotes To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:37:16 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 11676 Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.freedomsnest.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?ref=hayfa > > > [IMAGE] > > Quotes from F.A. Hayek > > [IMAGE] > > 1. Should our moral beliefs really prove to be dependent on factual > assumptions shown to be incorrect, it would be hardly moral to > defend them by refusing to acknowledge the facts. > > > > 2. Ever since the beginning of modern science, the best minds have > recognized that "the range of acknowledged ignorance will grow > with the advance of science." Unfortunately, the popular effect of > this scientific advance has been a belief, seemingly shared by > many scientists, that the range of our ignorance is steadily > diminishing and that we can therefore aim at more comprehensive > and deliberate control of all human activities. It is for this > reason that those intoxicated by the advance of knowledge so often > become the enemies of freedom. > > > > 3. Humiliating to human pride as it may be, we must recognize that > the advance and even the preservation of civilization are > dependent upon a maximum of opportunity for accidents to happen. > [The Constitution of Liberty, ch. 2.4 > > > > 4. All political theories assume, of course, that most individuals > are very ignorant. Those who plead for liberty differ from the > rest in that they include among the ignorant themselves as well as > the wisest. > > > > 5. Compared with the totality of knowledge which is continually > utilized in the evolution of a dynamic civilization, the > difference between the knowledge that the wisest and that which > the most ignorant individual can deliberately employ is > comparatively insignificant. > > > > 6. Equality of the general rules of law and conduct, however, is the > only kind of equality conducive to liberty and the only equality > which we can secure without destroying liberty. Not only has > liberty nothing to do with any other sort of equality, but it is > even bound to produce inequality in many respects. This is the > necessary result and part of the justification of individual > liberty: if the result of individual liberty did not demonstrate > that some manners of living are more successful than others, much > of the case for it would vanish. > > > > 7. From the fact that people are very different it follows that, if > we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their > actual position, and that the only way to place them in an equal > position would be to treat them differently. Equality before the > law and material equality are therefore not only different but are > in conflict which each other; and we can achieve either one or the > other, but not both at the same time. > > > > 8. However human, envy is certainly not one of the sources of > discontent that a free society can eliminate. It is probably one > of the essential conditions for the preservation of such a society > that we do not countenance envy, not sanction its demands by > camouflaging it as social justice, but treat it, in the words of > John Stuart Mill, as "the most anti-social and evil of all > passions. > > > > 9. Justice, like liberty and coercion, is a concept which, for the > sake of clarity, ought to be confined to the deliberate treatment > of men by other men. > > > > 10. ...whenever it is necessary that one of several conflicting > opinions should prevail and when one would have to be made to > prevail by force if need be, it is less wasteful to determine > which has the stronger support by counting numbers than by > fighting. Democracy is the only method of peaceful change that man > has yet been discovered. > > > > 11. The conception that government should be guided by majority > opinion makes sense only if that opinion is independent of > government. The ideal of democracy rests on the belief that the > view which will direct government emerges from an independent and > spontaneous process. It requires, therefore, the existence of a > large sphere independent of majority control in which the opinions > of the individuals are formed. > > > > 12. It is only because the majority opinion will always be opposed by > some that our knowledge and understanding progress. In the process > by which opinion is formed, it is very probable that, by the time > any view becomes a majority view, it is no longer the best view: > somebody will already have advanced beyond the point which the > majority have reached. It is because we do not yet which of the > many competing new opinions will prove itself the best that we > wait until it has gained sufficient support. > > > > 13. ...it is always from a minority acting in ways different from what > the majority would prescribe that the majority in the end learns > to do better. > > > > 14. The successful politician owes his power to the fact that he moves > within the accepted framework of thought, that he thinks and talks > conventionally. It would be almost a contradiction in terms for a > politician to be a leader in the field of ideas. His task in a > democracy is to find out what the opinions held by the largest > number are, not to give currency to new opinions which may become > the majority view in some distant future. > > > > 15. What a free society offers to the individual is much more than > what he would be able to do if only he were free. > > > > 16. Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into > complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand > that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure > freedom. > > > > 17. Human reason can neither predict nor deliberately shape its own > future. Its advances consist in finding out where it has been > wrong. > > > > 18. A society that does not recognize that each individual has values > of his own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for > the dignity of the individual and cannot really know freedom. > > > > 19. Liberty is an opportunity for doing good, but this is only so when > it is also an opportunity for doing wrong. > > > > 20. ...if we wish to preserve a free society, it is essential that we > recognize that the desirability of a particular object is not > sufficient justification for the use of coercion. > > > > 21. ...it is largely because civilization enables us constantly to > profit from knowledge which we individually do not possess and > because each individual's use of his particular knowledge may > serve to assist others unknown to him in achieving their ends that > men as members of civilized society can pursue their individual > ends so much more successfully than they could alone. > > > > 22. The mind cannot foresee its own advance. > > > > 23. Every change in conditions will make necessary some change in the > use of resources, in the direction and kind of human activities, > in habits and practices. And each change in the actions of those > affected in the first instance will require further adjustments > that will gradually extend through the whole of society. Every > change thus in a sense creates a "problem" for society, even > though no single individual perceives it as such; it is gradually > "solved" by the establishment of a new overall adjustment. > > > > 24. ...the case for individual freedom rests largely on the > recognition of the inevitable and universal ignorance of all of us > concerning a great many of the factors on which the achievements > of our ends and welfare depend. > > > > 25. ...the ultimate decision about what is accepted as right and wrong > will be made not by individual human wisdom but by the > disappearance of the groups that have adhered to the "wrong" > beliefs. > > > > 26. ...the argument for liberty is not an argument against > organization, which is one of the most powerful tools human reason > can employ, but an argument against all exclusive, privileged, > monopolistic organization, against the use of coercion to prevent > others from doing better. > > > > 27. Even more significant of the inherent weakness of the collectivist > theories is the extraordinary paradox that from the assertion that > society is in some sense more than merely the aggregate of all > individuals their adherents regularly pass by a sort of > intellectual somersault to the thesis that in order that the > coherence of this larger entity be safeguarded it must be > subjected to conscious control, that is, to the control of what in > the last resort must be an individual mind. It thus comes about > that in practice it is regularly the theoretical collectivist who > extols individual reason and demands that all forces of society be > made subject to the direction of a single mastermind, while it is > the individualist who recognizes the limitations of the powers of > individual reason and consequently advocates freedom as a means > for the fullest development of the powers of the interindividual > process. > > > > 28. It may indeed prove to be far the most difficult and not the least > important task for human reason rationally to comprehend its own > limitations. It is essential for the growth of reason that as > individuals we should bow to forces and obey principles which we > cannot hope fully to understand, yet on which the advance and even > the preservation of civilization depend. > > > > 29. The discussions of every age are filled with the issues on which > its leading schools of thought differ. But the general > intellectual atmosphere of the time is always determined by the > views on which the opposing schools agree. They become the > unspoken presuppositions of all thought, and common and > unquestioningly accepted foundations on which all discussion > proceeds. > > > > 30. From the saintly and single-minded idealist to the fanatic is > often but a step. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > [LINK] > > [Home][Authors][Subjects][Quotes][Books][Email] >

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porno is good for kids
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Pornography is good for children! It helps them acknowledge the reality of sexual identity in the world of human beings. Most of the people I knew even into high school had sex with their friends before they were ten. Lots and lots of people -- meaning a lot -- took lots and lots of LSD. The world was good because everyone was going someplace peaceful eventually and neopaganism's many useful features brought widespread happiness. We tracked down Playboys and Playgirls too and looked at them and wondered at the novelty of the experience. Tell children about the penis and the vagina and how they can make you shiver and convulse with pleasure when you rub them together! Tell them about the forgetfulness of being which comes with orgasm. Sex is a wonderful part of life. Don't ruin it for children with fear and associations of violence and evil. GEEK NAKED

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TDC: Sci-Tek ...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Check out Sci-Tek on The Discovery Channel. The current episode is really pretty full of grins and giggles, not to mention a lot of half-truths and plain techno-fantasy. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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by benoi＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER remailer. Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article: >From: scott(a)zorch.sf-bay.org (Scott Hazen Mueller) >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce >Subject: cancelled posting >Date: 30 Dec 1997 13:25:04 -0500 >Organization: At Home; Salida, CA >Lines: 26 >Sender: johnl(a)iecc.com >Approved: comp.org.cauce(a)abuse.net >Message-ID: <EM0LFH.Bn3(a)zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> >Reply-To: scott(a)zorch.sf-bay.org >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce(a)abuse.net >X-Authentication-Warning: orbit.hooked.net: Uzorch set sender to news(a)zorch.sf-bay.org using -f >X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.sf-bay.org >Path: ...!iecc.com!iecc.com!not-for-mail > >I have issued a cancel for the following posting to comp.org.cauce. Death >threats are serious business. > >Xref: zorch comp.org.cauce:378 >Path: zorch!news.well.com!noos.hooked.net!204.156.128.20.MISMATCH!news1.best.com >!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-i >n-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.207.65!iecc.com!iecc.co >m!not-for-mail >From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce >Subject: CAUCE offers a $50,000 (canadian) reward for killing Chris Lewis, his w >ife, and the kid >Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:58:17 -0500 >Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY >Lines: 14 >Sender: johnl(a)iecc.com >Approved: comp.org.cauce(a)abuse.net >Message-ID: <b8d6450efb8581fa6190e92216c92e16(a)anon.efga.org> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce(a)abuse.net >Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. > It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. > Please report problems or inappropriate use to the > remailer administrator at <admin(a)anon.efga.org>. My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer: >CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to >exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and >all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to >whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa: > >483 Vances Side Road >Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0 >CANADA >Home telephone: (613) 832-0541, >Office telephone: (613) 763-2935 > >After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org >for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward. This is fucking censorship! I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the pre-teen kids screwing. Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis. ---guy

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Re: Word Processors and GUIs (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 03:40:31 -0600 > Subject: Re: Word Processors and GUIs > While some standardization is good it is not the be all to end all. While > standardization of cut, paste, open, close, print makes perfect sense most > commands do not fall into this catagory. Perhaps not, but 90% of what people *do* does fall into those operations. Ever hear of macro's? Ever use a Sun where the menu pull-down pops up under the pointer when you click a button? Both of these will increase the use of a GUI to way more than a straight CLI interface (and I type at nearly 80 words a minute with a slightly crippled L. hand). I suggest you get a GUI macro utility and something like PopUpMenu on the Amiga that makes the menu's appear both at the command bar *and* under the mouse. Using this technique I can execute a file save via GUI in about 1/3 the time I can in the CLI. > The inherent benefit of this > standardization decrease the more specialized an application becomes. With > a program like Autocad or MathCad or even Lotus 1-2-3 where one has a > steep learning curve of specialized commands the benefits of standardized > basic commands boarders on insignificant. You are confusing learning the commands with learning the 'model' that the program impliments. The learning curve comes from the user learning the model the programmer(s) had in their head(s) while writing the program and learning to solve problems with the black box functions the programmer/developer uses to solve those problems. > Once we get past the standardization issue to the one of textmode vs GUI > (which was the topic of my original post) I doubt that one can make the > case that a draftsman running a graphics program under a textmode OS is > less efficient as his counterpart who is saddled with a bloated GUI OS. In I use both POVRay as well as LightWave, one text and one GUI. The GUI program is *much* easier to develop 3d renderings in because things like boundary violations, control path anomolies, and such are *much* easier to see and deal with in the GUI interface. I also use Scientific Notebook, I can't imagine doing the same sort of things I do with that GUI text-processor with say a textual Postscript or Tex program. Just try making a nice nifty graphical output using Postscript (say) using a GUI and a editor working in Postscript directly. > fact if both are operating on the same hardware I would venture a guess > that the textmode user will be more efficient by the simple fact that his > resources are not being consumed by the GUI. This assumption is *very* dependant upon the model of the software. It depends upon whether the process takes the command sequence and executes it in parallel or in series with the command entry sequence. In other words, if the program renders while you are entering new commands will obviously be much slower than a program that takes the sequence of commands in toto and *then* executes them. The efficiency to a large part depends upon the model of the software, not the particular command and control interface. If you expect to execute processes in parallel (ie edit & execute in parallel) then a GUI is much quicker (not taking into account the added overhead of the GUI, which in and of itself is not a condemnation of the GUI but rather the poor processors we have to run them on) because you can see you errors as they occur and it keeps them from propogating through the design or use process. If sequential is your goal then it really doesn't matter because in both cases (ie GUI v CLI) becuase while it's executing your commands you can't do anything anyway. Of course, these models *only* apply if we are single-tasking programs. If we allow multi-tasking then GUI wins hands down because graphical information content is *much* higher than CLI in every case. This allows us to display more information on a GUI than a CLI. Personaly, this is a non-argument from the technical perspective. It is more indicative of the mental flexibility of the holders of the various positions. I wouldn't use an OS that wouldn't let me do both at the same time (and I don't) and use them as I need them. > The same case can be made for the accounting staff using spreadsheets or > the secretaries typing letters. I'll take an accounting department using > Lotus 1-2-3 3.x up against a similar group running MS Office and Win95/NT > any day of the week. I'll get the same work done faster and *cheaper*. Excuse me but the user interface of your example, 123, *has* GUI elements even in a text mode display. > This brings up another issue of decreased performance with the GUI's. It > is the notion that every document must be type-set. I can't even start to > imagine the millions of man hours wasted in the office because every > insignificant memo, report, and letter has to be formatted "just right" This is a condemnation of human nature, not GUI's. I use a plain old text editor when I'm making simple edits. A perfect example is from work where we recently have taken on a group of office 'helpers' to take care of the more mundane office needs. They discovered they could add graphics and attachments to their email and ever since we have suffered from the abuse, emails with a dozen attachments of pretty pictures that I have to specificaly work through. Considering I get somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 emails a day that can be a real time sink (thank god for procmail!). But whattcha gonna do, shoot 'em? > Another contention I have with the GUI's is the use of icons. One of the > most misused and time wasting "features" of the GUI's. It makes absolutely > no sense for someone who is working on the keyboard to stop what they are > doing, go over to the mouse, and then point and click to execute a > command. Then quit using the mouse on the wrong damn side of the keyboard. If you're right handed the mouse goes on the left, not the right. That way you don't have to quit typing to deal with the GUI. It takes a couple of days to over come the 'handedness' that is built into our brain, but the long term benefit is that your wrist load goes *way* down on the right *and* your left hand fine motor control improves significantly. If you happen to be left handed then you need a reversed keyboard with the return key and such on the L. and the mouse on the right. Try it for 3 days - you'll like it. > Well I guess I will rap this up with a final note. With the GUI OS's (and > the applications that run on them) as size and complexity increases > performance and reliability decreases. Without a doubt I can get more work > done on cheaper hardware running *nix or os/2 using only text mode > applications than I can running a GUI with it's associated bloated > applications. That's interesting, I use Linux (x86 & PPC) , WinNT, AmigaDos, AIX, & Solaris at home on my personal machines (11 of them not counting the TI explorer, , Atari 800, SX-64 and C-128) and don't find a significant difference in reliability. They all stay up for weeks and weeks. OS/2 is a sucky os, it's unstable and calling it reliable is a joke. It's user interface is inconsistent, it's task swapper is weird and stalls at strange times for no apparent reason, etc., etc. Note that this is a personal opinion and not a function of my working for IBM and being required to use OS/2 everyday (I don't like that requirement either). It is a function of my using OS/2 since the 1.0 days. It's interesting to note that IBM is moving OS/2 from the general OS area to specialized applications... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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You are all a bunch of cypherpunks (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 03:39:05 -0500 > From: David Miller <dm0(a)avana.net> > Subject: You are all a bunch of cypherpunks > 2) I want to know anyone who knows anything about full-duplex soundcard > programming under Linux. Internet Telephony is fast opon us, do you > want > to subscribe or design? This is duplex Nautilus II. Get in gear. O'Reilly has a new book out for Linux relating to writing device drivers. You also want a copy of their Linux multimedia book. I don't have the device driver book (it hasn't come in yet), but: Linux Multimedia Guide Jeff Tranter ISBN 1-56592-219-0 $32.95 You might also want to peruse: Beginning Linux Programming N. Matthew & R. Stones ISBN 1-874416-68-0 $36.95 Inside Linux Randolph Bentson ISBN 0-916151-89-1 (mine was $22.00, no price shown) Linux Programming P. Volkerding, E. Foster-Johnson, K. Reichard ISBN 1-55828-507-5 $39.95 Linux Kernel Internals M. Beck, H. Bohme, M. Dziadzka, U. Kunitz, R. Magnus, D. Verworner ISBN 0-201-87741-4 (mine was $40.75, no price shown, it's an import from Germany) Also: The Design of the Unix Operating System M.J. Bach ISBN 0-13-201799-7 (no price on book, this is the book Linus used to design the kernel) and finaly: Interprocess Communications in Unix: The nooks & crannies J.S. Gray ISBN 0-13-186891-8 (no price on book, $40?) Hope that helps. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Strange Way To Leak Inofrmation: Contents Of Discovery Channel Show On Non-Lethals (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From stugreen(a)bga.com Tue Dec 30 02:12:37 1997 Sender: root(a)coney.lsd-labs.com Message-ID: <34A8A83D.FBFEDD2F(a)bga.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 01:52:29 -0600 From: Stu Green <stugreen(a)bga.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ravage(a)ssz.com Subject: Strange Way To Leak Inofrmation: Contents Of Discovery Channel Show On Non-Lethals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, I left the tube on Discovery while testing some software tonight. In the background I heard something about attacking computers so I started paying attention and to my warped mind the Fed was trying to leak some dis-information (or advertise some dirty tricks already pulled). In the hype there were some interesting things mentions that folks ought be aware of. They gave a 'man in the middle' scenario played out in full on the screen between a "computer security expert" and a group of transactions between a bank in acountry "plagued with drug production and cartels" and a bank in Switzerland. The third world bank and the Swiss bank were using PGP for encryption. The narrator dumped an aside - the government was supplying the "computer security expert" with "data gathered over time", which consisted of intercepts of the initial text messages passing the PGP keys back and forth (PGP 2.4 flashed on one of the screens, so we ain't talking about yesterday here). This amounts to an acknowledgement that one of the three-letter groups is playing man-in-the -middle already and on a grand scale (not that this is new news, but its nice having the speculation authenticated, even if in a manner that leaves the conclusion to the viewer's deductive processes). The last computer related portion involved the FBI planting trojan horses through anti-virus software. they flash a couple of screens - one was definately Norton Anit-virus for 95 and the other recognizible one was M$AV. I think the one I couldn't pin is Dr. Solomon's, but it could easily be McAfee. Doesn't matter - if one is popped, they all are. Back in June I built a K6 for David that had some real pecularities - the sound card went into outer space and set it's interupt to 14 and wouldn't let go. When I started to try to figure out what was going on I figured that something wrote to the bios, cause the symptoms were so werid. So I hacked a little thing up to go in and rewrite the bios'sNVRAM. It worked witht the motherboard's jumpers set to allow bios flashing and failed when the pins were set to block flashing. But when I use debug in a very dirty program I was able to jack with the wrteable ram, even with flashing diaabled, matter of fact it was so damned simple I wrote the motherboard manufacturer to show how it was broken. If ASUS is prone to this kind of dumb attack, then I figure other boards are probably more vulnerable and the government's got a pile of exploits to dick with any machine (running windows, MacOS or NT) with their trojan horses and bios-level attacks. I could have sworn that the stuff I saw on David's motherboard came strait from Bulgaria. It looked like one of the best hacks I ever saw - everytime I changed values in the bios and rebooted into 95, those values were reset to the original values right after post ran memory checking. But if I booted into Linux it did not effect anything (it's nice having all the system specific onformation in /proc, without having to write a program to extract it from kmem). So, from what I can conclude, there maybe reason to look over the shoulder a little more diligently cause somebody's out there fucking around. In that vain, I bagged some fool trying to start a mail flood from a system he broke into ( a customer of mine that knew he had been hacked). It kind of blew my mind, here this guy spent hours cracking around, found his way into the mail server (which was an NT machine) just to blast dumb & lame porno all over the place. (Happened to me in March - I left SATAN running at work over a weekend and as soon as I got on the windows box in my office a flood of shit started going out to the last person I mailed, which luckily was Jep, it was the samething lame porn and a ton of it, but I left my ass wide opened by leaving SATAN's fat neon sign on and not isolating the work station I was running SATAN on from my other machine, at least I isolated myself from the rest of Arrowsmith's network (which was the worst setup I've ever seen - but that's another story)). Hope Reef didn't get too traumatized by the Federales. Maybe you could sue the government for the stress induction as Reef's guardian?? Catch you soon and if not before - Happy New Years Regards, Stu

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China clamps down on Internet [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > CHINA CLAMPS NEW CONTROLS ON INTERNET > > Web posted at: 3:13 a.m. EST (0813 GMT) > > BEIJING (Reuters) -- China clamped sweeping new controls on the > Internet on Tuesday, warning that the network was being used to leak > state secrets and to spread "harmful information." > > Regulations unveiled by Zhu Entao, Assistant Minister for Public > Security, cover a wide range of crimes, including leaking state > secrets, political subversion and spreading pornography and > violence. > > The rules are also designed to protect against computer hacking, > viruses and other computer-related crime. > > They call for unspecified "criminal punishments" and fines of up to > 15,000 yuan ($1,800) for Internet providers and users who violate > the rules -- both individuals and business organisations. [text deleted] > The regulations explicitly cover information circulating from Hong > Kong, Macau and Taiwan. [text deleted]

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The Anonymizer and IRC
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Anonymizer does in fact only provide restricted access by http and NO IRC. For instance, the Anonymizer blocks Dejanews, Hotmail and mailto.cgi forms. I could understand that they block sites that explicitly request to be blocked to prevent abuse. But what if I want to make a mailto.cgi or IRC script available by http. Should people be disallowed from accessing this through The Anonymizer even if I do not request it? It should at least be possible to allow access to such scripts for The paid accounts. If they keep logs in case of a U. S. law violation, I see no problem of liability arosing from such access. They have also restricted their shell access for which you pay US $ 7 per moth to IRC. Does that sound more reasonable than blocking the nntp port? Does anyone know other ISPs who provide privacy and do not block abitrarily without _prior request_ from the site in question? A private interest can do anything, but anyway. * * *===================================================================* For subscription info see http://www.efga.org/about/maillist.html

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RSA with 5.x
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know where there is a copy of pgp5x available for ftp that can generate RSA keys? === E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 12/30/97 Time: 08:56:33 Visit me at http://www.pobox.com/~amp -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) Have you seen http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum ===

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Vulis again
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER > remailer. Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article: Vulis, you are the only Gypsie Jew around here. Half Romanian Gypsie, half Hungarian Jew. ---guy

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17 Dec '03

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Congressional pensions increase... [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Tue Dec 30 11:23:04 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712301723.LAA06373(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Congressional pensions increase... [CNN] To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:23:03 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2267 Forwarded message: > Congressional Pensions Can Be Hefty > > By ANICK JESDANUN > Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) A healthy pension plan that members of Congress > created for themselves will let some retiring lawmakers collect > roughly $100,000 a year for life. > > Although most members are enrolled in the same retirement plans as > other federal employees, lawmakers accrue benefits at a faster rate. > Plus, congressional pensions are adjusted each year for inflation, > setting them apart from most retirement plans in the private sector. > > "It's one of the most outrageous perks congressmen have," said David > Keating, vice president for National Taxpayers Union, a conservative > group that advocates less government spending. > > According to the taxpayers' group, which calculated congressional > pension estimates for retiring lawmakers at the request of The > Associated Press, some lawmakers will be going home with pensions of > about five times the national average. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Govt. employees get pay raise... [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Tue Dec 30 11:21:57 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712301721.LAA06351(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Govt. employees get pay raise... [CNN] To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:21:54 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2003 Forwarded message: > Federal Workers Ring In New Year With Pay Raise > > [INLINE] > > WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Dec. 30 -- Government workers will enjoy on > average a 2.8 percent increase in their pay checks starting New Year's > day as President Bill Clinton Monday issued an executive order > authorizing the federal pay raise. > > The order grants members of the military a straight 2.8 percent raise. > > > Civilian employees get 2.3 percent, plus a "locality" adjustment that > varies depending on geographic location. White House spokesman Joe > Lockhart said this adjustment averages at 0.5 percent. > > The vice president, federal judges and members of Congress will also > get a 2.3 percent increase in salary, but with no adjustment. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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IBM breaks disk-drive bottlenecks... [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Tue Dec 30 11:20:36 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199712301720.LAA06321(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: IBM breaks disk-drive bottlenecks... [CNN] To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:20:35 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1988 Forwarded message: > New technology stores 11.6 billion bits of data on one square inch of > disk > > December 30, 1997: 10:49 a.m. ET > > More related sites... NEW YORK (CNNfn) - IBM announced Tuesday that it > has broken a major barrier in magnetic disk-drive storage density > which could eventually lead to ultra-thin computers. > [INLINE] New developments from the computer company will allow 11.6 > billion bits of data per square inch to be stored on a disk drive, > enabling more information to be stored in the same amount of space. > [INLINE] The new technology will first appear in products in the year > 2001. It will be used initially in 2.5 inch, non-removable disk > drives, which are mainly featured in portable computers. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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RE: Word Processors and GUIs
by Fisher Mark 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The real boom in productivity has to do with users not having to memorize >various command sequences for various programs. This is why I started using Windows 3.0 along with the MKS Toolkit Shell back when. Sometimes a CLI interface is the right tool -- sometimes a GUI is the right tool. It especially seems the case that graphical activities (like word processing (vs. text editing)) gain much from a GUI interface. I also have several CLI utilities for manipulating GUI objects (believe it or not, you can't tell Exchange Mail Client to use '>' (or any other) as the reply character). Nowadays, I run NT 4.0 with an MKS Toolkit Korn Shell loaded at startup as one of my apps. (Microsoft missed a chance when they didn't license MKS Toolkit for NT 4.0 and Windows 95.) >The effect of this all is profound. It means that a manager or secretary or >whatever doesn't need to write down a bunch of funny commands for Wordstar, >or Emacs, or Autocad...he or she can "muddle through" just by going to the >"File" menu item to open files, save them, make copies, etc. Or to the >"Edit" menu item to make changes, cut and paste, alter fonts, whatever. The "ctrl-alt-meta-cokebottle" syndrome was a major pain, one I was glad to separate myself from. >(I started out on a Data General Nova, got a Proc Tech Sol as my first PC, >[...] (I started on Purdue MACE (a CDC 6000 Kronos derivative) with punched cards, quickly graduated to Purdue MESA TTY access to MACE, then was one of the first Unix users at Purdue around 1978. I've created programs for MACE, Unix, CP/M, MS-DOS, WicatOS, Windows 3.1/95/NT, VAX/VMS, and Data General AOS.) >I started typing all my own technical papers into my own IBM PC back in '83 >[...] I started typing my own papers on Unix Version 6 in 1979, using NROFF. Probably why I like styles in Word so much... >>I would take a good multi-threaded, multi-tasking, text mode system over >>the drivile that keeps comming out of Redmond, WA. anyday. Although Windows NT 4.0 is around the quality of Unix circa 1981 or so, that still makes it much superior to any other Microsoft OS. With the MKS Toolkit implementation of the Korn Shell + other Unix utilities, and a recent version of Perl (5.004 or later), I don't feel like I'm underpowered on NT 4.0 relative to when I work on a Sun under Solaris 2.5. >Good writing comes from good writers, not from word processing programs. >Those who can't put a decent argument together will not find solace in some >"good multi-threaded, multi-tasking, text mode system." How true. Although the quality of Windows NT 4.0 is not up to what I get under Solaris or HP-UX, I can use my machine as a light-duty production server as well as a workstation. It is good enough for me to be able to concentrate on the hard work of creating quality prose and programs. ========================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm(a)indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN "Their walls are built of cannon balls, their motto is 'Don't Tread on Me'"

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