December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Mad as Hell
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Nerthus wrote: >In many cases, State Sovereignty is just another phrase for the "Petty >Bureaucrats Reempowerment Act": moral dictators hiding behind the flag >of freedom. > >As for me, I'll take Individual Sovereignty over State Sovereignty on >any day. The 9th Amendment states: [....] ................................................................ The statement from Colorado Senator Charles Duke on the "10th Amendment Sovereignty Resolution" was the first I'd heard of it, so I wasn't aware that it was limited to a vision of smaller States over Larger States. I, too, would prefer a showdown for a recognition of Individual Sovereignty, distant as such a thing may seem in possibility. Only science fiction authors and readers seem to be able to identify individuality out of a mass of "social factors". .. Blanc

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As good crypto-anarchists, no one on this list should care what Tim's views are on race. Your main concern should be a good defense against aggression; if Tim hasn't taken any action to bring harm to others, then there's isn't any need to worry about his opinion. Just lock & load. .. Blanc

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InfoWarriors - Alpha
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: trusting untrusted platforms
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Alexandre Maret <amaret(a)infomaniak.ch> says: > > [how to do trusted computation on untrusted platforms] I'm working on a paper, it's one of the technical hurdles on the way to my Eternity DDS eternity service implementation. > rdl, less frustrated with changing from vtwm/athena to KDE, says: > I so far have been approaching it as "Type I (active)" and "Type II (passive)" > attackers. In the first case, people lie about the results, in the second, > they give you the correct results, but snoop on the data. (For some reason > the terminology is kind of lame, but it helps to have some) > > There are a bunch of mathematical/cryptographic ways of hiding data from > those doing computations on it, at least for a subset of computations. I'm > trying to put together a generalized computing model for this which would be > turing complete if it can be, although it is not clear it can be. Some > operations practically will be a lot more expensive in this model than in > the conventional environment, and perhaps to a computation which would require > 10 units of conventional secret CPU time, you will need 9 units of secret > CPU to encode/decode the data and 41 units of public CPU time. You also need > to guard against covert channels, such as the total amount of public CPU time > you are requesting as a clue to what you're doing with it. I am confident > type II security can be realized with at least a minor amount of performance > improvement over purely secret use, assuming public time is free. > > Type I security is a lot more difficult to realize in true theoretical > sense, but is easier in a practical sense. A simple solution is to do the > same computation on a bunch of different remote machines, and as long as > they don't collude, you can just make sure they all answered the same, modulo > rounding errors and stuff. This isn't the kind of provable security you > can conceivably get against type II attackers, but it doesn't have any innate > performance hit. > > It's possible there are systems which are byzantine fault tolerant to > the former kind of attack -- instinctively, you can just split up the > computation in small enough pieces that you don't care if it is compromised. > > I'm interested in finding a provably secure computation-checksum technique. > I think there are most likely reductions for a lot of problems to things > which can be verified, and again, my goal is to have a Turing-complete > model of computation with this property. > > > [can cryptography be helpful?] > > It's as much a theory of computation problem as anything else, once you > have some functions through which you can carry some operations. > > Most of the stuff I've done so far focuses on the graph coloring problem. > I'm probably going to finish a quick version which can only deal with > a subset of problems, then work on a general model. > > [paper availability issues] > Yes, it will be publically available. It will be available when it's closer > to done; I will send something to cypherpunks about it, and I'll put it > up on the web somewhere. If it doesn't suck, and I can convince someone > at LCS-CIS of this/to be a co-author/etc., I might try to get it published. Anyone know anything very relevant to this? I've mostly just started on the research (my current exciting project has been Linux Fibre Channel and making a bloody fast, yet maybe secure, yet small cipher for an on board processor), and pointers would be useful. It isn't as hard a problem as I first thought, though. This seems like the kind of thing everyone's favorite judge-threatening tree-hugger-nose-mac-10-inserting gun-hoarding old-man-on-the-mountain would have done N years ago :) [flames, fan. gasoline. rdx...] so I'd rather not reinvent the wheel more than once or twice. Ryan (getting dangerously close to having a working Eternity DDS demo, and wondering if FC98 will be on mbone, particularly the solar eclipse, since even if he had the money to go, it's in the middle of next semester, and disappearing for a week would kind of be difficult, although not at all impossible of someone wants to pay for me to go...ahh, but there's always next year) -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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17 Dec '03

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evolRe: What cypherpunks used to be
by wabe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ANONYMOUS said: > evolve or die Evolution requires death, by definition. _______________________________________ -wabe

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by jjn43 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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mini-review: The Electronic Privacy Papers
by David HM Spector 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This has got to be the "Book of the Year"...If you only read one book before the end of the year, or even one book ALL of next year, this is the book you MUST read: The Electronic Privacy Papers by Bruce Schneier and David Banisar Wiley Computer Publishing/John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN: 0-471-12297-1 I just got it this morning, and cruised though the first chapters (I'm a fast reader...) and its positively explosive. The book consists of information gleaned from public sources and pried out of the Government via the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and logically takes the reader through a chronological history of government surveillance and public reactions to it. Schneier and Banisar examine the arguments for and against state surveillance and how these policies are formulated and how (from my reading so far) they are often implemented with little or no public discussion or input by agencies that seem to deeply distrust and dislike the lawmaking process and constitutional protections that are supposed to protect Americans from overzealous agents and Government abuse. Positively riveting.... For you Amazon.com junkies, here's the URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ats-query/9615-8912043-502933 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David HM Spector spector(a)zeitgeist.com Network Design & Infrastructure Security

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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The DEA announced friday that doctors in Oregon that participate in doctor assisted suicides will have their licence to prescribe drugs revoked. Since when did the DEA gestapo obtain the power to regulate physician's rights to prescribe the drugs their patients need? But more important is the realization that the thugs in DC now consider our votes null and void, the _people_ of Oregon voted to allow assisted suicide, TWICE, I thought this was a government _of_ the people? In Arizona, the people voted to allow doctor prescribed marijuana for those that the doctors thought it would help relieve their pain, the governor of that state the morning after the vote declared the people of Arizona were stupid and he would block implementation of the law, what the fuck are these hicks voting for don't they read the pabulum we spoon feed them day after day about the dangers of drugs? The Kent Crispins of the world wake up, voting is a waste of time, the bastards only allow us to vote for Moe, Curly, or Larry, all of the same union of thugs, some assigned to the Republican party, some assigned to the Democratic party, soon even that fig leaf of democracy will be discarded and the maximum leader will tell us it is necessary for national security reasons to suspend voting on our leaders. Lock and Load? No I dont think so, it is pointless, go out get drunk, screw anybody that will consent, have a good time, the chains will soon clamp on your neck. Amerika love it or leave it.

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technical issues of the list
by Jenaer Mixmaster Anonserver 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Issues: 1. Robustness. Usenet wins. 2. Efficiency. Usenet loses, but perhaps some kind of hack could be implemented combining mail and news delivery for greater efficiency without losing robustness? I'm not familiar with NNTP. 3. Access control. Usenet is too easy to get in to. We need to discourage clueless newbies from bothering us. This too could be hacked, e.g. set up a PGP cancel bot which only allows PGP signed posts. (This has many other convenient benefits such as encouraging nyms, and preventing spam.) Hm.. But people might worry that sigs could increase their legal exposure, even if they use (less than perfectly strong) nyms. So a good variation is to generate the canonical key pair and share the secret key around. Hell, post the secret key once a week in the FAQ... The cancel bot should allow sigs by either that key or any arbitrary key. Whoops! Such a cancel-bot undermines our goal of robustness.. HMMMmm. Okay the best solution to signal/noise management is (as always) filtering at the reader's desk. I don't read William H. Geiger III or Paul Bradley posts (usually), I don't read anything Subject: "Make Money Fast", from "Graham-John Buellers" or containing "Timmy" in the first sentence, and if we switch to Usenet, I won't read articles posted by unknowns without PGP sigs. There. :-) Regards, Zooko P.S. I am not a crook. Nor am I the anonymous who is so earnestly pleading for some sanity-checking around here, although I tend to agree with some of his points. P.P.S. Hi, Joichi Ito! Nice to see some articles from the Japanese chapter of The International Committee to Put The Bastards Up Against A Wall--- whoops- I mean, the Japanese chapter of the Peace-Loving, Code-Writing, Money-Making Cypherpunks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: http://www.c2.net/~bryce -- 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.01 iQCVAwUBNG3T6hiDTlaqCaKdAQGTBwP+MFtiUEyD0zMCmhTUXA6vz4Ije/2qvPEP ckhFUlw4qLDg0cW0uXsS6Dl4HKhIV9Iu8DtC8BA7C692vC6E6EH5xQIQW6BmajOp gxhECxeCT2zrtGRKwDV5GMEtLsJ5Splp7qxlGJW4o1/16rhGVpxWzqESgC8PhDaT uAyb49at0pM= =HMRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: The Policeman Inside
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May says: > Of course, an alternative is to say "Fuck you" to those who want us to shut > up, to deploy more unbreakable crypto, to encourage more armed militias to > spring up, to destabilize the regimes in Hong Kong, Japan, and India, and > to "Just Say No" to backdoors in PGP and other crypto products. Bring on > crypto anarchy. Sounds like a good plan to me! What do people think this nym is for? Only nyms can trade with impunity in the tax free cypherspace. Amad3us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBNG8x7PKMuKFNFivhAQEKBgP9EajcgwZUJjxsZQtUmXERBbX1bwBQFypG n/piLEJdGEDDyquJ9Co14Aa6VbYkbfuzWoosnkutbyjZDRJdHM39DxzvcPhiKrIl 6JtY/regsDdwgeZHD4qIBs9TPlqbdWB2mieCB+HX8yrM5HOlrTq9xqF0de6lhfTi 3Q3NhhyClPc= =dGoV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Nakatuji-san and Male PenPals
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > At 10:37 AM -0700 11/16/97, xxxxxxxxx wrote: > >Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> said: > >>(I did the same search several days ago, as Nakatuji once again became > >>news here, and couldn't find any references at all to his exact name. > >>Maybe the sites or archives that carried his pen pal requests, if it was > >>he and not some other with the same name, had flushed this older stuff.) > > > >Well I did some searching myself and the only thing I could find out side > >of the CP-Archives was the one post to the Einstein Male PenPal webpage > >using the e-mail address below. > > > >http://cuy.net/~einstein/local/malebook.html > > > >Nobuki Nakatuji <nn1332(a)galaxynet.or.jp> > Is this the same Nobuki Nakatuji asking for money for descriptions of > crypto programs? ("What am Misty?"..."You send money, I send description") ROTFL! I look up all of the URLs in the InfoWar Chronicles sent to the list and I was mystified as to why the one you just mentioned (http://cuy.net/~einstein/local/malebook.html) was linked to when I clicked on the word _extortion_. Now it makes sense. Kinda. Maybe. If you click on the highlighted text _terrorists steeped in extremism and political hatred_ it sends you to whithouse.gov. When I get one of those chapters when I am too fucked up to read I just read the highlighted text and see where it goes and its usually pretty weird. I wonder if Nobuki charges his _pen pals_ the same price as he charges cypherpunks. ;P ($50 to have him _play Misty_ for us). ;P

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri, Thanks for reposting Kent's slur of toads. Where to begin defense of toadism? Why not with Toad, (see from above) the mother of toads, the nodehome of thousands of Toadies, year after year, even now for few, until ... well, no need for that again. How about the newly built To, the safehome of www.cpunks. Toto? Maybe a stretch. Request-Remailing-To:? Now, that's close family. Reply to: X-post to: And forward to: Come on, Kent, why deny the fundamental purpose of the Net: Send to: Spoof to: Lie to: Obnox to: Joke to: Friendly crowds of to-addicts.

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the art of fighting without fighting
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Bruce Lee film. Scene on a sailing ship headed for island where tournament is to be held. Thug karate type hassles Mr Lee, picking a fight. Thug asks: "so what kind of karate do you fight." Mr Lee: "the art of fighting without fighting." Thug asks for fight. Mr Lee: "not here, on that island over there," points. OK says thug eagerly and climbs down into rowing boat. Mr Lee unties end of rope and hands to children playing, leaning over edge of ship. Thug screams obscenities from row boat, trys to pull himself in but children threaten to let go of rope. Mr Lee walks off camera unperturbed with smug look. Moral of story: fight smart. That's what cypherpunks tactic is. Multiplies your efficacy. Anonymous decries talk of violence on list. Understand anonymous, we are not the aggressors, we are the aggressed. It is annoying being on the receiving end of aggression especially where the aggressor is the local force monopoly and you have no recourse. Hence talk of nuking DC, and of capital punishment for criminal government officials. There is certain poetic karmic value to these expressions of annoyance. Helps spread the dissatisfaction with government. However, the fact that criminal officials deserve punishment does not mean that any of us are interested to actually deliver that punishment. There are more efficient methods of utilising our available resources: write crypto code, hasten crypto-anarchy. Have the government collapse through lack of funding, have it's power eroded. Let's get to it. Amad3us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 6.6.6 iQCVAwUBNG9DLvKMuKFNFivhAQEwQgP9E/gJyEqdczO9epkmXJ35swOcDId2W+N4 lpLX8fsE3g7PTxMGb4CMCOftqRPbYZ5F5ZLeFKjQGQG5/7D99n8dWiNFERRM5/Go s6CSIYzM3jKXVYrW7NxbjCvw/IfDv9QGLZphU7ZK41efU/4Y0OXydQJAO+AHsFFk 1end8q1QRPM= =hc+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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kiwi not home (was: getting premail)
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov wrote: > > Bill Stewart wrote: > > > > At 11:11 PM 11/13/1997 -0600, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > > >Anyone know of a WORKING site where I can download premail from? > > >kiwi...berkeley is refusing connections. > > > > http://atropos.c2.net/~raph/premail.html > > > > Also look at www.publius.net > > Nope, all of these sites refer me to kiwi, which is refusing > connections. kiwi is NOT refusing connections. It is just not there. There's a difference. The host: http://kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu/ does not respond to connection requests to port 80, nor 8080, nor 8001. Ping yields "Host lookup failed - Non-authoritative host not found." The browser indicates it is trying to contact, which can mean anything up to and including that it is awaiting a cascading name lookup, but has not yet opened a TCP connection to the target. I'm guessing kiwi is Raph's computer in Computer Science and that maybe it is hosed. Maybe Raph has been hosed... "(WHAP!) Tell us the name of your leader! (WHAP!) Talk! (WHAP!)" Maybe Raph will turn up one of these days writing plaintive notes of contrition. Maybe... oh, never mind. Oddly, while Raph has a home page at www.cs.berkeley.edu and at atropos.c2.net/, all the critical roads seem to lead to kiwi, including the mixmaster list. Search engines show precious few references to critical remailer files except in the links that point to the dead host. Is it really this easy to make the whole remailer network go stale -- like cutting off jet fighter spare parts to suddenly unfriendly nation-states? Wouldn't it be prudent to mirror the remailer lists, keys and stats at a few dozen places scattered around the world? Would it take more than a few percent of the effort and time that have recently been pissed down a hole writing and reading the flames that have consumed the list of late? Hmmmm?

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Politically Correct Riding Hood
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Author Unknown (to me at least) but it fits in well with our current discussion of how not to offend various minority groups. ----- There once was a young person named Little Red Riding Hood who lived on the edge of a large forest full of endangered owls and rare plants that would probably provide a cure for cancer if only someone took the time to study them. Red Riding Hood lived with a nurture giver whom she sometimes referred to as "mother," although she didn't mean to imply by this term that she would have thought less of the person if a close biological link did not in fact exist. Nor did she intend to denigrate the equal value of non traditional households, although she was sorry if this was the impression conveyed. One day her mother asked her to take a basket of organically grown fruit and mineral water to her grandmother's house. "But mother, won't this be stealing work from the unionized people who have struggled for years to earn the right to carry all packages between various people in the woods?" Red Riding Hood's mother assured her that she had called the union boss and gotten a special compassionate mission exemption form. "But mother, aren't you oppressing me by ordering me to do this?" Red Riding Hood's mother pointed out that it was impossible for womyn to oppress each other, since all womyn were equally oppressed until all womyn were free. "But mother, then shouldn't you have my brother carry the basket, since he's an oppressor, and should learn what it's like to be oppressed?" And Red Riding Hood's mother explained that her brother was attending a special rally for animal rights, and besides, this wasn't stereotypical womyn's work, but an empowering deed that would help engender a feeling of community. "But won't I be oppressing Grandma, by implying that she's sick and hence unable to independently further her own selfhood?" But Red Riding Hood's mother explained that her grandmother wasn't actually sick or incapacitated or mentally handicapped in any way, although that was not to imply that any of these conditions were inferior to what some people called "health". Thus Red Riding Hood felt that she could get behind the idea of delivering the basket to her grandmother, and so she set off. Many people believed that the forest was a foreboding and dangerous place, but Red Riding Hood knew that this was an irrational fear based on cultural paradigms instilled by a patriarchal society that regarded the natural world as an exploitable resource, and hence believed that natural predators were in fact intolerable competitors. Other people avoided the woods for fear of thieves and deviants, but Red Riding Hood felt that in a truly classless society all marginalized peoples would be able to "come out" of the woods and be accepted as valid lifestyle role models. On her way to Grandma's house, Red Riding Hood passed a woodchopper, and wandered off the path, in order to examine some flowers. She was startled to find herself standing before a Wolf, who asked her what was in her basket. Red Riding Hood's teacher had warned her never to talk to strangers, but she was confident in taking control of her own budding sexuality, and chose to dialogue with the Wolf. She replied, "I am taking my Grandmother some healthful snacks in a gesture of solidarity." The Wolf said, "You know, my dear, it isn't safe for a little girl to walk through these woods alone." Red Riding Hood said, "I find your sexist remark offensive in the extreme, but I will ignore it because of your traditional status as an outcast from society, the stress of which has caused you to develop an alternative and yet entirely valid world view. Now, if you'll excuse me, I would prefer to be on my way." Red Riding Hood returned to the main path, and proceeded towards her Grandmother's house. But because his status outside society had freed him from slavish adherence to linear, Western-style thought, the Wolf knew of a quicker route to Grandma's house. He burst into the house and ate Grandma, a course of action affirmative of his nature as a predator. Then, unhampered by rigid, traditionalist gender role notions, he put on Grandma's nightclothes, crawled under the bedclothes, and awaited developments. Red Riding Hood entered the cottage and said, "Grandma, I have brought you some cruelty free snacks to salute you in your role of wise and nurturing matriarch." The Wolf said softly "Come closer, child, so that I might see you." Red Riding Hood said, "Goddess! Grandma, what big eyes you have!" "You forget that I am optically challenged." "And Grandma, what an enormous, what a fine nose you have." "Naturally, I could have had it fixed to help my acting career, but I didn't give in to such societal pressures, my child." "And Grandma, what very big, sharp teeth you have!" The Wolf could not take any more of these specist slurs, and, in a reaction appropriate for his accustomed milieu, he leaped out of bed, grabbed Little Red Riding Hood, and opened his jaws so wide that she could see her poor Grandmother cowering in his belly. "Aren't you forgetting something?" Red Riding Hood bravely shouted. "You must request my permission before proceeding to a new level of intimacy!" The Wolf was so startled by this statement that he loosened his grasp on her. At the same time, the woodchopper burst into the cottage, brandishing an ax. "Hands off!" cried the woodchopper. "And what do you think you're doing?" cried Little Red Riding Hood. "If I let you help me now, I would be expressing a lack of confidence in my own abilities, which would lead to poor self esteem and lower achievement scores on college entrance exams." "Last chance, sister! Get your hands off that endangered species! This is an FBI sting!" screamed the woodchopper, and when Little Red Riding Hood nonetheless made a sudden motion, he sliced off her head. "Thank goodness you got here in time," said the Wolf. "The brat and her grandmother lured me in here. I thought I was a goner." "No, I think I'm the real victim here," said the woodchopper. "I've been dealing with my anger ever since I saw her picking those protected flowers earlier. And now I'm going to have such a trauma. Do you have any aspirin?" "Sure," said the Wolf. "Thanks." "I feel your pain," said the Wolf, and he patted the woodchopper on his firm, well padded ass, gave a little belch, and said, "Do you have any Maalox?" -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Naziworld
by Dave Van Domelen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Which link? And which Naziworld are you referring to? There's lots out there in comics, fiction and gaming. Dave

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Citizenship, soverignty and insular areas
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A very interesting report just published which, while explaining to a Congressional Committee about the legal status of certain small U.S. possessions and territories, touches on differences in the application of U.S. law and citizenship in these areas. Interestingly, "The Constitution does not apply in its entirety to territories solely by virtue of the fact that those territories have come under the possession and control of the United States. Whether rights under the Constitution apply to a territory and, if so, to what extent depends essentially on either of two factors, according to a series of Supreme Court decisions called the Insular Cases.15 The first is whether the right in question is considered to be "fundamental" or not; the second is whether the Congress has taken legislative action to extend the Constitution to the territory." In particular, federal income tax does not apply to many of these possessions (e.g., Saipan) and have become tax havens for some U.S. citizens. - U.S. Insular Areas: Application of the U.S. Constitution. OGC-98-5. 13 pp. plus 7 appendices (58 pp.) November 7, 1997. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/og98005.pdf

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House Panel Questions FBI Implementation of Wiretap Law
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I doubt any of these revelations will come as a shock to list members. --Steve ------------------ Excerpt from ACLU News 10-26-97 House Panel Questions FBI Implementation of Wiretap Law FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, October 23, 1997 WASHINGTON -- Amid growing concerns about privacy implications and costs, a House subcommittee today questioned FBI implementation of a controversial 1994 law that forced telephone companies help law enforcement agencies gain access to digital phone lines for surveillance operations. During the four-hour hearing before the Crime Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee, two Republicans -- Bob Barr of Georgia and Steve Chabot of Ohio -- were harshly critical of the 1994 law, has implemented it, saying it represents an enormous invasion of privacy and could lead to a system of ongoing government surveillance. Seconding those criticisms, the American Civil Liberties Union said that safeguards originally implemented in the legislation have failed to protect the American public. "The hearing today clearly revealed that the FBI is embarked on a scheme to undermine the privacy of every law-abiding American," said Donald Haines, a Legislative Counsel with the ACLU's Washington National Office. "From the very beginning, the FBI has flagrantly violated both the process and the requirements set out in the legislation," Haines added. "The FBI has repeatedly sought to coerce the telecommunications industry into changing its technology so that law enforcement agencies could increase their wiretapping." The 1994 telecommunications act is far from the only effort by the FBI to gain backdoor access to private communications. In another ongoing Congressional debate, the FBI is trying to impose restrictions on the use of privacy-protecting encryption technology. "Congress must squarely confront this persistent pattern of FBI and law enforcement intrusions into our privacy," Haines said. "Congress should act immediately to repeal the 1994 law, or, at an absolute minimum, refuse to fund any implementation activities."

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Re: The Electronic Privacy Papers
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to David Spector's praise and pointer for: "The Electronic Privacy Papers: Documents on the Battle for Privacy in the Age of Surveillance" by Bruce Schneier and David Banisar we offer its 10-page detailed TOC, foreword, preface and epilog: http://jya.com/tepp.htm (49K) The 747-page volume is an excellent read and rich resource of once secret documents, legislation, regulations, letters, memos, names, events, policies, opinions and disputes of the surveillance age and crypto battles. Subscribers to this list are amply represented. In addition to the Amazon URL provided by David: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ats-query/9615-8912043-502933 Bruce offers a 15% discount off the $60 price at: http://www.counterpane.com/privacy.html B&N sells it in Manhattan for $39.95, hardcover.

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Re: PGPsdk is now free for non-commercial use
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[I'm also posting this to coderpunks, but cypherpunks is probably a better place for discussions.] At 10:13 PM 11/15/1997 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote: >At 1:06 AM -0800 11/15/97, phelix(a)vallnet.com wrote: >>Well, PGP has come to it's senses and is allowing non-commercial >>developers to use the sdk for free. I didn't notice anything too >>ominous in the license agreement, and they promise a new >>licensing/prices for shareware and small commercial developers. >> >>Perhaps nobody is buying the sdk at it's current highly >>inflated licensing price. > >Much more likely is that more than a few cypherpunks discussed >the issue with PRZ at the last SF Bay Area Physical meeting, >and that discussion is bearing fruit. I'm pleased to see PGP Inc. permitting development of freeware, but at leased from a first reading of the license, it's a _really_ restrictive definition of "freeware" - not only does the software have to be free, but it can only be used in extremely restrictively non-commercial activities. It's far more restrictive than RSAREF (though more precisely defined.) Here's an excerpt from the web page at http://www.pgp.com/sdk/sdklicencefree.html For purposes hereof, the term "non-commercial" shall mean that the application (a) has been distributed or otherwise made available at no charge (direct or indirect) and (b) is not used for any commercial purpose, which includes, but is not limited to, any activity engaged for the purpose of generating revenues (directly or indirectly). For example, a commercial purpose includes the use of the application within a commercial business or facility or the use of the product to provide a service, or in support of service, for which you charge. Commercial purpose also includes use by any government agency or organization. Examples of non-commercial purposes include use at home for personal correspondence, use by students for academic activities, or use by human rights organizations. First of all, it sounds like it can only be used by students at non-government-run universities, but not at Berkeley, and if Random MIT Student develops PGPwidget using the toolkit, students at U.C.Berkeley can't use it for academic use either, except perhaps on their PCs at home (if they live off-campus.) (Do any of the UK universities count as non-government-run?) But "within a commercial business or facility" is far more restrictive. I use a laptop for my home and work email, and carry it around. It sounds like I can't use PGPwidget or PGPsdk for encrypting personal email at lunchtime when my laptop is at the office, and perhaps not from a hotel (at least if I'm there on business)? I probably can't start PGPwidget at home and leave it running when I carry the laptop to work. I probably can't use PGPwidget when I'm reading my work email at home, though perhaps it's ok to use it on personal mail that someone sent to my work MSExchange, assuming it's not a widget that competes with a PGP product. This is frustrating - today, I can use PGP 2.6.2, and maybe 5.0, at work, though I can't sell it without a license, and it's not very clear whether I can run a commercial service without a license (I probably need a license from RSA, but not PGP, and non-RSA keys probably don't require that.) And I can certainly write programs that use PGP command-line interfaces to encrypt things without any restrictions on my code. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Apologies to Joichi Ito
by dabi-do＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mr. Ito: Apologies for misspelling your surname. Ito-san was what I had in mind. Dabi-do dabi-do(a)juno.com

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Re: Exporting crypto from Japan
by Nobuki Nakatuji 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Do you readJapanese import & export law book? If you don't read at yet,You must read it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Digital Revolution!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~ IMPORTANT NOTE ~~~ This is NOT a chainletter, it is an ANTI-CHAINLETTER! This message has gone to everyone in the world with a computer, and we are asking you to go to the homes and businesses of ten people you know, and delete it. ~~~ IMPORTANT NOTE ~~~ I am proud to announce the formation of the DIGITAL MAJORITY TAX FREE FOUNDATION for the purpose of serving as the voice of people with ten fingers, across the face of the earth. As a one-person operation, the DIGITAL MAJORITY TAX FREE FOUNDATION will be able to voice opinions representative of all ten-fingered people for a fraction of the cost of the bloated bureacracies which bleed charitable people around the world dry through a multitude of sham organizations catering to narrowly focused self-interest groups which have spread like a plague throughout the DEXADIGITAL community. As the sole member of the Digitally United Membership Board, I will be in a position to speak for practically everyone, everywhere, on all issues, and getting stinking rich while still bleeding the mass of humanity of their hard-earned money at a mere fraction of the cost of the current unweildy network of tax deductible rights and freedoms organizations. The DIGITAL MAJORITY believes in equal charitablization for those with equal digitization, as well as many other vague concepts under which all DexaDigital people can stand under the flag of freedom on the distant shores where bells ring for liberty and all mankind. To save the life of a single child, send your contributions to: DIGITAL MAJORITY, BOX 281, BIENFAIT, SK. CANADA S0C 0M0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message sponsored by: Modern Motels of Bienfait Conglomeration "Modern, in the traditional sense of the word." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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