December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Fed Ct hrg re Diffie-Hellman & Hellman-Merkle patents
by thad＠hammerhead.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter D. Junger observes: > The server at www.cruzio.com reports: > The requested URL /~schlafly was not found on this server. > Does anyone have a valid URL for this information? It's really http://bbs.cruzio.com/~schlafly/ thad -- Thaddeus Beier thad(a)hammerhead.com Visual Effects Supervisor 408) 286-3376 Hammerhead Productions http://www.got.net/people/thad

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Re: Hey! Dr. Vuilis!
by Murray Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:22:38 -0800 (PST), se7en wrote: > >SHUT THE FUCK UP, BITCH!!! > His name is Vulis. Would you please splee it right.

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Florida Supreme Court Home Page Adorned With Porn
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Florida Supreme Court Home Page Adorned With Porn TALLAHASSEE, Fla (Reuter) - A Florida court's Web page was restored Friday after two days' absence following a break-in by a hacker who placed pornographic images on the site. Court officials Wednesday took the state court system home page off-line after a computer hacker apparently broke into the site and added pictures of nude men and women in various stages of sexual activity. The photos caused a stir among those who use the court page to access Florida Supreme Court and Appellate Court decisions. The home page is normally a little more staid, with a plain wood-grained background and hypertext links. Prurient, but disappointed, surfers looking for thrills on the net gave the court system home page one of its busiest days ever Friday. "We've had a significant number of hits today on our home page," said Craig Waters, executive assistant to Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice Gerald Kogan. "With all the publicity surrounding this, a lot of people are curious." No files were tampered with and court records remained intact, Waters said. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement was contacted and was investigating the break in. Court officials intend to prosecute the perpetrator, Waters said. ========================================== Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk *********PGP KEY On Request*********

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Junkbusters: Invite the Government in!
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

QUOTE A direct quote from: http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/spam.html We think that junk email should be made illegal in the same way that junk faxes have been outlawed in the US. Unfortunately it will take lawmakers some time to get around to it, and even then spammers would probably try remailing through other jurisdictions to evade regulation. END QUOTE. I have only posted to this list RE: Internet Marketing and Spam. I have found that the general feeling runs against regulation of the internet. These Junkbuster people are crying for government intervention. The government coming into the internet is a bad idea. Therefore: Junkbusters is a bad idea. Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Reason for AP anonymity
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Astrologer released after predicting death of Venezuela president By Vivian Sequera ASSOCIATED PRESS CARACAS, Venezuela - An astrologer who predicted 80 year-old President Rafael Caldera's "death" next year was released by political police Thursday after two days of questioning in detention. Jose Bernardo Gomez, 47, said he was detained "because I spoke about the possibility of the death of President Caldera." The widely feared Department of Intelligence and Prevention Services wanted to know where Gomez At his information, he said, and whether he was connected to leftist political groups. Caldera's astrological chart ,show that "Uranus is over the sun, Pluto is in ascendancy and Mars is going behind its moon" - not a good sign for the president, Gomez told police. "I've been sustaining the possibility of the death of the president of the republic for a long time," Gomez said, adding that the word "death" is "symbolic language that could be physical or something of another order." The arrest of the rotund, boarded and jovial 47-year old philosophy professor at Venezuela Central University was treated as front-page news by the mainstream daily newspaper El Nacional and other media. Government officials, perhaps a little embarrassed, played down the incident. "He's not accused of anything," Interior Minister Jose Guillermo Andueza said tersely. Political police merely wanted to know "what basis he has for making this kind of statement." Gomez, an academic with postgraduate degrees in history, education, psychology and philosophy from three Venezuela universities, said he meant Caldera no wrong and, in fact, voted for Caldera for his first term in 1968. "I wish the president good health. I'm not betting on his sicknesses, much less on his death," Gomez said in an interview in his home two hours after his release. "It's just that from an astrological point of view, 1997 looks dark for Caldera." Gomez spoke publicly on the topic at a conference of businessmen on Oct. 12.

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(no subject)
by Arnaldo Giacomitti Junior 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe cypherpunks

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Re: Merc: PacBell predicts imminent death of the net; film at 11
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:47 PM 10/26/96 -0500, Roger Williams <roger(a)coelacanth.com> wrote: >I caught an interview on the BBC last night with a representative from >PacBell, who claimed that this subsidy resulted in ISPs actively >discouraging customers from using data service (ISDN) instead of POTS. For those of you not in PacBell territory, PacBell really misunderstood the Internet access market when they set their current rates. ISDN costs $X/month (about 2-3 x POTS) plus (daytime) per-minute charges of 4 cents, (nighttime 7pm-7am) free. (This probably requires that your ISP have Centrex access in your local calling area.) What they didn't realize was that computer people think "It's free at night" means "It's free at night", so they dial up and stay on. (Many of us non-ISDN users do the same with POTS, of course.) ISDN call setup times are fast enough that it's possible to do IP support that tears down calls after X seconds of non-use and sets them up again when there's traffic, which is practical since you don't have 30 seconds of modem retraining time per setup. If PacBell's really bugged enough about usage patterns, they could go write a good Winsock package to support it themselves and give it away free to ISDN customers.... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.

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HIT_key
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

10-24-96: "Hitachi, Fujitsu to develop key-code data security system." They will cooperate to develop "hack-proof" encryption for telecommunications networks. Planning for the system includes formation of a "bank" to maintain duplicates of decoding keys, an aspect which has raised some concern over potential invasions of privacy. The U.S. has been lobbying other nations to adopt such a system. "Singapore devises system to combat Internet business fraud." The new technology, known as the Singapore Enterprise Security Architecture (SESA), could be applied over the Internet "within the next few months" in Singapore. It may begin in Singapore first and then, depending on the response from those outside, overseas." Patent: "Computerized theme park information management system utilizing partitioned smart cards and biometric verification." Abstract: A computerized theme park information system to automatically process and issue a multi-service guest card, control and monitor admission, *perform value-added manipulation of the guest card's contents and to analyze the visitor's buying behavior*. "U.S. Attorney Gen. Janet Reno offered to "set the record straight" on encryption policy and key recovery at FCBA lunch Oct. 17." RFI: Anybody know of a transcript of the AG's talk? ----- http://jya.com/hitkey.txt (7 kb for 4) ftp://jya.com/pub/incoming/hitkey.txt HIT_key ---------- We have put Quisquater's "short cut for exhaustive key search using fault analysis" at: http://jya.com/quikey.htm

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considering internet/privacy periodical
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm considering putting together a periodic publication about the technical and legal aspects of privacy and the Internet. My "business model" would feature free WWW/email access with a charge for fax or postal delivery. I'm curious to know if this strikes people as interesting or just Yet Another Email Newsletter Of No Real Consequence. (no offense taken if it's the latter.) Any feedback is appreciated. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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Hey! Dr. Vuilis!
by se7en 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

SHUT THE FUCK UP, BITCH!!! You think we can have at least one fucking week with having to listen to your clueless bullshit? Or am I gonna have to put the slap down on you? Rant like a bitch, get slapped like a bitch! se7en

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No Subject
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I came across some interesting passages in the RAND Corp. study, An Exploration of Cyberspace Security R&D Investment Strategies for DARPA: "The Day After ... in Cyberspace II", MR-797-DARPA. http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR797 The report describes the results of an exercise sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) using the RAND "The Day After..." methodology to elicit the views of participants on research and investment strategies addressing the security and safety of systems and networks supporting various U.S. physical and functional infrastructures. The exercise was held on March 23, 1996 in Washington D.C., and involved approximately 60 participants from government, universities, and commercial industries involved with the U.S. information infrastructure. Has this report been discussed on the list? ---------------- Is it possible to "sterilize" data passing through our telecommunications systems? Billions of bits of data pass through our national information infrastructure each second. Some of those bits represent information about individual citizens' login and password combinations, social security and credit card numbers, account information, health status, and innumerable other sensitive information items. Our nation has superb communications monitoring tools, housed primarily in the National Security Agency. However, the NSA is precluded by law from collecting information about U.S. citizens. When incidents of "information warfare" are being waged against U.S. systems, could key data flows be "sterilized" or "sanitized" by computer hardware and/or software in such a manner that the NSA could help monitor and track perpetrators in cyberspace without violating these laws? This topic was raised during exercise discussions. We have not studied all the relevant laws and regulations to assess whether such sterilization measures would allow the power of NSA's analyses to be brought to bear on telecommunications involving U.S. citizens, but perhaps the topic merits further investigation. If so, what kinds of pattern detection and replacement algorithms would suffice to accomplish this goal? Sponsor development of an aircraft-like "black box" recording device When a cyberspace security incident happens, it is often not detected in real time, and the trail back to the perpetrator becomes lost. Could a "black box" recording device be developed, to be attached to key nodes or links of cyberspace systems, that would record every transaction passing through that node or link during the last n minutes (where n=5 or 10, for example)? If so, that record would be invaluable in tracing the source of incidents, whether they are accidental or deliberately perpetrated. Thousands of such systems would be required to cover key links or nodes; could they be made robust, inexpensive, and ultra-reliable? PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Snoop Daty Data | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Sacred Cow Meat Co. | --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hacker Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money) I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money You've got the code, I've got the hacks Let's make lots of ... I've had enough of scheming and messing `round with jerks My crypto code's compiled, I'm afraid it doesn't work I'm looking for a partner, someone who gets things fixed Ask yourself this question: do you want to be rich? I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money You've got the code, I've got the hacks Let's make lots of money You can tell I'm educated, I studied at CalTech Doctored in mathematics, I could've been set I can program a computer, choose the perfect time If you've got the inclination, I have got the crime Ooooh, there's a lot of opportunities If you know when to take them, you know There's a lot of opportunities If there aren't, you can make them (Make or break them) I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money Let's make lots of ... You can see I'm single-minded, I know what I could be How do you feel about it? Come, take a walk with me I'm looking for a partner regardless of expense Think about it seriously, you know it makes sense Let's (Got the brains) Make (Got the tricks) Let's make lots of money (Money) Let's (You've got the code) Make (I've got the hacks) Let's make lots of money (Money) I've got the brains (Got the brains) You've got the code (Got the hacks) Let's make lots of money (Money) Money!

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Re: considering internet/privacy periodical
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:31 PM 10/27/96 -0800, Tim May wrote: >But Greg probably already knows about all these things. If he thinks >there's a market, maybe there is. Actually, I don't think there's enough of a market to justify a real business; I don't see any serious $ here (in fact, there's probably very little $ here). As far as I can tell, most of the money being made with the Internet so far comes from selling things to people who think they can make money on the Internet. My mention of a price comes from my impression that there may be some folks who'd be interested - mostly law-oriented folks but this is likely true of other "serious professionals/academics" - but who have organized their information gathering practices around paper, such that an electronic-only publication isn't "real" to them. But given my relatively poor cash flow situation and the tendency of human beings to sign up for anything that's free, I don't think it's a good idea to offer free FAX or paper distribution, since those media choices would cost me per subscriber. Mostly I see a hole right now in between the one-shot web pages/FAQs people build which explain remailers (and other privacy technologies) and Raph's remailer list, which is pretty tightly focused on the technical/reliability aspects of cypherpunk-style remailers without providing a lot of historical or technical context. (To clarify, I think both the FAQ's and Raph's remailer reliability tracking are valuable, and I see them as inspirations to also do something useful.) Also, the privacy/remailer market is fragmenting (evolving), with pro-privacy (or faux pro-privacy, or anti-privacy) mail receiving/forwarding services, viz c2.org, netbox.com, pobox.com, thebook.com, mailmasher.com, hotmail.com, etc. I see it not as a business but more like a way of organizing what I'm thinking about already in a way that might be interesting to others. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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LIQ_uor
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

10-25-96: "Litronic Releases the Fast and Powerful CipherServer." Litronic announced the release of a hardware-based add-on device for high speed processing of cryptographic functions. The newly released CipherServer holds up to eight cryptologic PC Cards which may concurrently process the same or different algorithms including RSA, DES, and FORTEZZA. CSI Explains Countermeasures to Cyberspace Attacks Authored by an eminent authority, Dr. Dorothy E. Denning of Georgetown University (Washington, D.C.), CSI's "Manager's Guide to Cyberspace Attacks and Countermeasures" assists information technology professionals in keeping abreast of dizzying developments on the dark side of the virtual world. Target/ Electronic spies The FBI is expanding the Awareness of National Security Issues and Response (ANSIR) program, its public voice in national security matters, espionage, counterintelligence, economic espionage and physical- and cyber-infrastructure protection. ----- http://jya.com/liquor.txt (10 kb for 3) ftp://jya.com/pub/incoming/liquor.txt LIQ_uor

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Re: considering internet/privacy periodical
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:31 PM 10/27/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >The article somewhat longwindedly gets into the problems these "hot sites" >are having. The lack of loyalty, the lack of _payment_, etc. I would like to report that even though the WSJ site supposedly started charging at Midnight on 20 September, I can still log on using my old free account (and I'm not using the MS browser). Haven't been charged yet. DCF

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No Subject
by almika 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe cypherpunks

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Re: considering internet/privacy periodical
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:36:14 -0800, Greg Broiles wrote: >I'm considering putting together a periodic publication about the technical >and legal aspects of privacy and the Internet. My "business model" would >feature free WWW/email access with a charge for fax or postal delivery. I'm >curious to know if this strikes people as interesting or just Yet Another >Email Newsletter Of No Real Consequence. (no offense taken if it's the >latter.) If you did a real noise-removal job, this could be very useful. Sort of a privacy-RISKs digest, if you will. # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp # <cadams(a)acucobol.com> | send mail with subject "send PGPKEY" "That's our advantage at Microsoft; we set the standards and we can change them." --- Karen Hargrove, Microsoft (quoted in the Feb 1993 Unix Review editorial)

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RE: considering internet/privacy periodical
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Greg Broiles I see it not as a business but more like a way of organizing what I'm thinking about already in a way that might be interesting to others. ................................................................................... Once you create your web newsletter and see how many hits you get, you can better gauge the interest. In any case, you will have your thoughts and references organized and can always use it in your communications to others on mailing lists or newsgroups, etc. Since there's so much info on the net, one of the most valuable elements to introduce into it, besides search engines, is the organization of all that data in ways which make sense and speeds up the time involved in grasping the issues. Plus, of course, if you give it a libertarian/anarchist slant, it would be an added "feature" for certain people. Like Cpunks. .. Blanc

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One-time password logic/code/information?
by Mike 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking to write a sort of password server replacement for NIS, and I am curious as to white papers, or otherwise information on authorization scheme's for this type of application. Regards, - Mike

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Secure Internet-based Electronic Commerce: The View from Outside the US
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've just made a draft copy of this paper available for comment as http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut01/paper.htm, a copy of the introduction is given below. The whole thing is around 170K long (40 A4 pages when printed). If anyone has any comments to make on it, please let me know. Peter. Introduction ------------ The creation of a global electronic commerce system will provide an extremely powerful magnet for hackers, criminals, disgruntled employees, and hostile (but also "friendly") governments intelligence agencies. This problem is magnified by the nature of the Internet, which allows attackers to quickly disseminate technical details on performing attacks and software to exploit vulnerabilities. A single skilled attacker willing to share their knowledge can enable hordes of dilletantes around the world to exploit a security hole in an operating system or application software within a matter of hours. The Internet also enables an attacker to perform an attack over long distances with little chance of detection and even less chance of apprehension. The ability to carry this out more or less anonymously, at low cost, and with little chance of being caught, encourages attackers. Because of well-publicized break-ins there has been a steadily increasing demand for encryption and related security measures to be included in software products. Unfortunately these measures often consist either of "voodoo security" techniques where security is treated as a marketing checkbox only, or are rendered ineffective by the US governments refusal to allow non-americans access to the same security measures which it allows its own citizens. Organisations employing such (in)security systems may make themselves liable for damages or losses incurred when they are compromised. This paper covers the issues of using weak, US government-approved security as well as problems with flawed security measures, examines some of the measures necessary to provide an adequate level of security, and then suggests several possible solutions.

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MASTERCARD TO TEST IBM DIGITAL WALLET;
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:35:00 -0500 (EST) MASTERCARD TO TEST IBM DIGITAL WALLET; Software Will Open Market to Electronic Commerce MasterCard International Inc. this week expects to begin testing its digital wallet developed by IBM Corp. and will offer some of its customers incentives to use the product. The move is expected to advance widespread acceptance of electronic commerce and increase opportunities for Internet service providers (ISPs) and software developers looking to capitalize on what analysts say will be a huge market. The digital wallet, containing a digital ID card, should be available to the mass market in the second half to end of 1997, said Steve Mott, senior vice president of electronic commerce/new ventures at MasterCard. After the IBM test, MasterCard will work with another set of vendors and continue testing through the first half of '97, he said. The other vendors probably will be CyberCash Inc., Netscape Communications Corp., VeriFone Inc., Fujitsu, and Open Market, Mott said. In the first quarter of '97, testing will involve five to 10 merchants and 1,000 card holders, he said. The IBM digital wallet, part of IBM's CommercePOINT family of products, is used with Netscape Navigator and incorporates the SET (Secure Electronic Transaction) protocol. Mott said MasterCard wants to seed the market with the IBM product. "They're going to be our guinea pigs," he said. In the next few weeks, Mott said, MasterCard will announce agreements with U.S. banks, but declined to name them. Next month, MasterCard expects to release from its Web site the SET Reference Implementation Code, which will show developers how to build SET applications, he said. The implementation code, being developed by Terisa Systems Inc., offers "an unambiguous application of the code" to be used to build interoperable software, he said. SET will make credit card transactions more secure because it provides confidentiality for payment information, insures integrity for transmitted data and provides authentication. Ken Mohr, product marketing manager at Terisa Systems, said Visa International Inc. and MasterCard are reviewing the first beta version of the implementation code. The company is scheduled to deliver the second beta version next month, he said. Terisa Systems hopes the second beta will be the last version and that Visa and MasterCard will accept the implementation code in the first quarter of '97, Mohr said. Visa Testing in Europe Visa also is moving forward with efforts to implement SET. Last week, it announced a pilot launch in Europe involving 38 Visa members in 16 countries. A number of banks will be able to offer secure electronic commerce within six months; full implementation of the project will begin in the first quarter of 1998. "Electronic commerce will be global in nature, so it is important we begin work on an international basis," Visa EU President Hans van der Velde said in a prepared release. "SET is now robust enough to go to the single worldwide market offered by the Internet and other networks," he said. Some vendors already have SET-ready products available. VeriFone has its Internet Payment Solution that includes vPOS, vGATE and vWallet to cover the three parts of an electronic transaction. Wells Fargo Bank is one of VeriFone's initial customers. The bank is implementing vPOS and expects to launch the service to merchants in mid-November, spokeswoman Janet Otsuki said. CyberCash has a Secure Internet Payment System with a CyberCash Wallet, Secure Merchant Payment System and CyberCash Gateway Servers. The system has been operational since April 1995. GTE has CyberTrust, which provides digital certificates that are issued over the Internet to consumers with credit cards, Internet merchants and institutions processing transactions. Terisa Systems is working on an as-yet-unnamed product to implement SET into its SecureWeb Toolkit. A beta version will be ready by year's end, Mohr said. Michael Goulde, an analyst with the Patricia Seybold Group, predicted that the SET protocol will greatly lessen the perceived risk of doing retail business over the Internet in 12 to 18 months. But, in a report written this month, he cautioned that there are barriers to electronic commerce. "Consumers won't install the software until it is seen as providing benefits, there won't be benefits until merchants support SET, and merchants won't support SET until consumers have the software. "This vicious cycle probably won't be broken unless Microsoft provides SET-compliant software as an integral part of Windows in 1997," Goulde said. James Miller, a research scientist at the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), predicted SET won't be widely available until Christmas '97. He said consumers will take to electronic commerce when one or two large companies figure out that security isn't such a huge issue for consumers and go ahead with electronic commerce. In the meantime, W3C and CommerceNet have completed specifications for the Joint Electronic Payments Initiative (JEPI). JEPI provides a universal payment platform to allow merchants and consumers to do business over the Internet using different forms of payment. The SET protocol was scheduled to be included in the first phase of JEPI, but work on SET was not completed in time, said Daniel Dardailler, JEPI project manager. A second phase should begin by the end of the year, and several companies, including VeriFone, have agreed to participate, he said. The second phase, which is not publicly available, will set out to validate the Universal Payment Preamble (UPP) logic put forward in the first phase and add more payment systems, such as SET, and micropayments, such as CyberCoin, Ecash and Digital Millicent, Dardailler said. JEPI is a standard mechanism for Web clients and servers to negotiate payment instrument, protocol and transport between one another. It has two parts -- Protocol Extensions Protocol (PEP), an extension layer that sits on top of http, and UPP, which identifies the appropriate payment methodology. More information is available at (http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Payments) For more information, contact MasterCard at (914) 249-4606, IBM at (914) 766-1162 or Terisa Systems at (415) 919-1776. =30 30 30= ------------------------ Name: amp E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 10/28/96 Time: 23:03:26 Visit http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum EARTH FIRST! We'll strip mine the other planets later. ------------------------

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BankAmerica, First USA to Use Net Software From Verifone
by se7en 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BankAmerica Corp. and First USA Paymentech have bought Verifone Inc.'s payment software for the Internet. They will use VGate and VPos, Verifone's Internet commerce gateway and merchant software. Terms of the deals were not disclosed. A third piece of Verifone's electronic commerce offering, VWallet, will be available once the MasterCard-Visa Secure Electronic Transactions protocol for credit card payments on the Net is adopted. Banks can use the Verifone technology to deliver private-labeled Internet commerce services to merchant customers. BankAmerica and First USA Paymentech join a user list that includes Wells Fargo & Co., Royal Bank of Canada, and Hitechniaga/MBf Group of Malaysia. BankAmerica's merchant services unit, which recently announced an initial public offering as a stand-alone business, processes credit and debit card sales for more than 150,000 merchants. First USA Paymentech ranks third in the merchant business. Its credit card issuing affiliate, First USA Bank, is one of the largest. Roger Bertman, a vice president at Verifone, said the reason these banks "are investing heavily in building the infrastructure" is because "the credit card will be the preeminent [on-line] payment instrument." se7en -------------------------- Majordomo list for Lam3rz: email majordomo(a)edm.net subscribe happyhacker MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! --------------------------

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RE: tcmay in favour of redistribution of wealth? NFW/ROTFL
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

attila(a)primenet.com wrote: >et tu, Brute? I thought I was the only one who deliberately >stiffed the United Way, I treated it as a generic example, not a specific one. For the record, I have never donated to the United Way either. >Tim redistributing the wealth?!? I'll be ROTFL for days >over the "insult." >Come on, James, get with the program. I liked Zaid Hassan's response better. In general, I try not to "get with the program" (c.f. Two Roads Diverged in a Yellow Wood" by Robert Frost). But in spite of my best efforts, I still find myself in a well defined demographic group. ;-) >in Canada, you call [redistribution of wealth] National Health >Services which supposedly provides cradle to the grave >social services (which is bankrupting Canada). In spite of these services the spread between Canadian and U.S. Bonds is in favour of Canada out as far as ten years. Interest rates this morning for 90 Day T-Bills: Canada 3.23%; U.S. 5.02%. Remember: correlation is not causation. >=There is naivete and then there is complicity. >=jbugden(a)alis.com >so where do you draw the line? Aye, there's the rub. So far I haven't *explicitly* drawn one. And the line I may draw now is probably different from the line I might have drawn 5 years ago or 5 years from now. Ambiguity I can accept, its ambivalence, apathy and agnosticism that annoy me more. Tim's occasional combination of justifiable apathy tends to be the best combination to trigger a response. Ciao, James The rules of the game: learn everything, read everything, inquire into everything... When two texts, or two assertions, or perhaps two ideas are in contradiction, be ready to reconcile them rather than cancel one by the other; regard them as two different facets, or two successive stages, of the same reality, a reality convincingly human just because it is complex. Marguerite Yourcenar quoted in Complexification by John L. Casti. Les regles du jeu: tout apprendre, tout lire, s'informer de tout... Lorsque deux textes, deux affirmations, deux idees s'opposent, se plaire a les concilier plutot qu'a les annuler l'un par l'autre; voir en eux deux facettes differentes, deux etats successifs du meme fait, une realite convaincante parce qu'elle est complexe, humaine parce qu'elle est multiple. Margueite Yourcenar, Memoires d'Hadrien

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List of reliable remailers
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I operate a remailer pinging service which collects detailed information about remailer features and reliability. To use it, just finger remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu There is also a Web version of the same information, plus lots of interesting links to remailer-related resources, at: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html This information is used by premail, a remailer chaining and PGP encrypting client for outgoing mail. For more information, see: http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html For the PGP public keys of the remailers, finger pgpkeys(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu This is the current info: REMAILER LIST This is an automatically generated listing of remailers. The first part of the listing shows the remailers along with configuration options and special features for each of the remailers. The second part shows the 12-day history, and average latency and uptime for each remailer. You can also get this list by fingering remailer-list(a)kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu. $remailer{"extropia"} = "<remail(a)miron.vip.best.com> cpunk pgp special"; $remailer{"mix"} = "<mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub reord ?"; $remailer{"replay"} = "<remailer(a)replay.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut post ek"; $remailer{'alpha'} = '<alias(a)alpha.c2.org> alpha pgp'; $remailer{'nymrod'} = '<nymrod(a)nym.jpunix.com> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"lead"} = "<mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"exon"} = "<remailer(a)remailer.nl.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"haystack"} = "<haystack(a)holy.cow.net> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"lucifer"} = "<lucifer(a)dhp.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"jam"} = "<remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"winsock"} = "<winsock(a)c2.org> cpunk pgp hash cut ksub reord"; $remailer{'nym'} = '<config(a)nym.alias.net> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"balls"} = "<remailer(a)huge.cajones.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"squirrel"} = "<mix(a)squirrel.owl.de> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek"; $remailer{"middle"} = "<middleman(a)jpunix.com> cpunk mix pgp hash middle latent cut ek reord"; $remailer{'cyber'} = '<alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net> alpha pgp'; $remailer{"dustbin"} = "<dustman(a)athensnet.com> cpunk pgp hash latent cut ek mix reord post"; $remailer{'weasel'} = '<config(a)weasel.owl.de> newnym pgp'; $remailer{"death"} = "<x(a)deathsdoor.com> cpunk pgp hash latent post"; catalyst(a)netcom.com is _not_ a remailer. lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu is _not_ a remailer. usura(a)replay.com is _not_ a remailer. Groups of remailers sharing a machine or operator: (cyber mix) (weasel squirrel) The winsock remailer does not accept plaintext messages. The alpha and nymrod nymservers are down due to abuse. However, you can use the cyber nymserver. The nym.alias.net server will be listed soon. See http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/n.a.n.html for details. 403 Permission denied errors have been caused by a flaky disk on the Berkeley WWW server. Hopefully, this is fixed by now. The penet remailer is closed. When sending messages to AOL accounts, don't use mix, replay, or exon as the last remailer in the chain - testing shows them not to work. Last update: Mon 28 Oct 96 6:45:43 PST remailer email address history latency uptime ----------------------------------------------------------------------- cyber alias(a)alias.cyberpass.net ******++**** 34:37 100.00% jam remailer(a)cypherpunks.ca ************ 16:20 100.00% exon remailer(a)remailer.nl.com **##+##*##*# 1:58 99.98% squirrel mix(a)squirrel.owl.de ++++++++++- 2:45:35 99.91% winsock winsock(a)c2.org --.------.- 8:16:20 99.89% lead mix(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu ++ +++++++++ 36:39 99.87% lucifer lucifer(a)dhp.com ++++++++ 36:32 99.86% balls remailer(a)huge.cajones.com ************ 5:59 99.67% dustbin dustman(a)athensnet.com +-+++-++-++ 1:13:59 99.58% replay remailer(a)replay.com *****+++**** 8:04 99.52% extropia remail(a)miron.vip.best.com ___.--.-.-- 17:10:17 99.16% haystack haystack(a)holy.cow.net +*#++##+*** 3:58 98.70% middle middleman(a)jpunix.com +--++ + +++ 1:38:10 98.14% death x(a)deathsdoor.com * 3:20 13.75% mix mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com + 2:07:07 6.67% History key * # response in less than 5 minutes. * * response in less than 1 hour. * + response in less than 4 hours. * - response in less than 24 hours. * . response in more than 1 day. * _ response came back too late (more than 2 days). cpunk A major class of remailers. Supports Request-Remailing-To: field. eric A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. penet The third class of remailers (at least for right now). Uses X-Anon-To: in the header. pgp Remailer supports encryption with PGP. A period after the keyword means that the short name, rather than the full email address, should be used as the encryption key ID. hash Supports ## pasting, so anything can be put into the headers of outgoing messages. ksub Remailer always kills subject header, even in non-pgp mode. nsub Remailer always preserves subject header, even in pgp mode. latent Supports Matt Ghio's Latent-Time: option. cut Supports Matt Ghio's Cutmarks: option. post Post to Usenet using Post-To: or Anon-Post-To: header. ek Encrypt responses in reply blocks using Encrypt-Key: header. special Accepts only pgp encrypted messages. mix Can accept messages in Mixmaster format. reord Attempts to foil traffic analysis by reordering messages. Note: I'm relying on the word of the remailer operator here, and haven't verified the reord info myself. mon Remailer has been known to monitor contents of private email. filter Remailer has been known to filter messages based on content. If not listed in conjunction with mon, then only messages destined for public forums are subject to filtering. Raph Levien

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Command confirmation request cancelled
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Your command: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS has remained unconfirmed for more than 48h and is being cancelled. If you did want it executed but were unable to send the confirmation in time, just re-issue the command to get a new confirmation code. The one you were sent before can no longer be used.

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COOL_TRAVELS: UNSUBSCRIBE US
by Mullen Patrick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This message was received by cypherpunks at toad.com. This is a mailing list. If you look at the To: line in its header, you will see "Cypherpunks Suck". If this isn't a clear sign of a forgery, I don't know what is. Please remove this account, cypherpunks(a)toad.com from your distribution. Thank you for your time and prompt response to this matter. Thank you, Patrick Mullen and other members at cypherpunks(a)toad.com _______________________________________________________________________________ From: COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)plwils00.xweb.eds.com on Sat, Oct 26, 1996 5:47 Subject: You are now subscribed to the COOL_TRAVELS list To: Cypherpunks Suck Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:03:21 Your subscription to Continental Online (COOL) Travel Specials has been confirmed. Please keep this E-mail as it contains important infomation about the list you've joined. There are two distinct e-mail addresses that you should be aware of. 1. listserv address: LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. 2. mailing list address: COOL_TRAVELS(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The first address: LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM: This is a non-human, administrative, automatic-reply address. This address works similar to a telephone voice response system. You dial a specific number to connect to the voice response system, enter the command/option to complete a specific task. There is not an option to chat with the voice response system. Similarly, the address above does not recognize anything but pre-defined commands. When you send E-mail to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM, with a command in the message body, LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM will reply to you with a pre-defined response to your command. Commands are not case sensitive, and the "subject:" field does not matter. Here are some useful commands. subscribe cool_travels firstname lastname (To subscribe to the mailing list cool_travels or overwrite your existing account with new information) unsubscribe cool_travels (To unsubscribe the cool_travels list) For security reasons, when you unsubscribe/signoff the list will ask you for a confirmation. When you receive the confirmation, use your mailer's "reply" feature and type OK, and nothing else, in the reply message. This is meant to verify that you really do want to be removed from the list. LISTSERV will notify you once the operation is successful. Please *DO NOT* include the original confirmation message in your OK reply. Again, send commands only to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The second important address is: COOL_TRAVELS(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM: This is the mailing list that will bring you discounts and promotions from Continental Airlines. This is a one-way, announce-only mailing list. It does not accept mail postings from the subscribers. Please do *NOT* reply to the messages sent to you from this mailing list. If you need any assistance, please send an E-mail to: WEBMASTER(a)MAIL1.FLYCONTINENTAL.COM with COOL_TRAVELS in the "subject:" field. We will be happy to assist you. ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP;26 Oct 1996 05:47:08 -0400 Received: from toad.com by delphi.ndhm.gtegsc.com with SMTP; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 9:43:28 GMT Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19773 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plwils00.xweb.eds.com (plwils00.xweb.eds.com [205.240.248.140]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19763 for <cypherpunks(a)TOAD.COM>; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plwils00 by plwils00.xweb.eds.com via SMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) for <cypherpunks(a)TOAD.COM> id CAA15495; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199610260703.CAA15495(a)plwils00.xweb.eds.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:03:21 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b)" <LISTSERV(a)plwils00.xweb.eds.com> Subject: You are now subscribed to the COOL_TRAVELS list To: Cypherpunks Suck <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Reply-To: COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)plwils00.xweb.eds.com X-LSV-ListID: COOL_TRAVELS Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk

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