December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Orbiting Datahavens
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> How about an orbiting DataHaven. No jurisdiction to bother with, In> extremely difficult to get to (except by large governments...). You In> could put together a couple of Linux boxes with a RAID system, some In> backups and a large solar panel and have a very nice, secure DataHaven. I bet one of those "weather" satalites would blow that thing out of the air in no time flat... :) P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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New type-I middleman!
by John Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone! I just completed beta testing my Type-I (ghio-style) Middleman remailer and I'm ready for it to go online publically. Just like the Middleman type-II (mixmaster) remailer, the type-I Middleman randomly selects a remailer path to send messages based on Raph Levien's remailer list. Additionally, to foil traffic analysis, the Middleman type-I remailer also supports message reordering. This means that middleman(a)jpunix.com is now a fully functional type-I/type-II remailer that uses the middleman random remailer feature in additon to reordering. All of the available functionlity that you would find in either a Mixmaster remailer as well as a Cypherpunks remailer is available in the middleman(a)jpunix.com remailer. Below is the public PGP key for middleman(a)jpunix.com. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzIXHroAAAEEAPLBq/n4a5ldzm8F51Lk63iHyOJfm+lmxW8PgjbKdAPAJBHk xUHXEeOX/gQ8RXV0W6vYwmiFcQBA7b4w3iJwptC8GN98t4o31SVHlouQozjMwaVH eu5dDUg/CJ9P2Wnwc0AtP4s9cBxQho3FK7mjeqhMXKhB2oqliX+quM/iBuHlAAUR sAGHtD5NaWRkbGVNYW4gVHlwZS1JIFJlbWFpbGVyIGF0IEpQVW5peC5Db20gPG1p ZGRsZW1hbkBqcHVuaXguY29tPrABA4kAlQMFEDIXMfh/qrjP4gbh5QEBc2kD/1hw oHPcTasnlSVzMxD68hoCI1GYNNM4JSU+rHS+3PVy++992PcyuhqdH8PhuDozeYkz C8Q5y4tmddg30ED+/W2QJwYS0iySG3yH4jrvOstws+Kn5LpD1JQJT1qGLVWHpTxG n5MZO014NGT+wVkySRCornpuaqevTum8ygp+lyPIsAHH =/xR/ - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhdusVOTpEThrthvAQErOwQAqBZo5D7RaSAiymovj7Y/FU649scaYI+v JwP9Nm1T9ZQ1rX3mscN/a37PpohKKoLHf9gYvgkJm5kPdODd9HRNoSdBcp72xrxo JDnhYdAW6iw4c6xZOde7o54maIWuITiN8X1kQcZ591Ava7DaVSdjMypm9hGzq9tx PRqQEvVDb2I= =lN7a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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COMMUNITY CONNEXION ANNOUNCES STRONGHOLD VERSION 1.3
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For Immediate Release - August 19, 1996 Contact: Sameer Parekh 510-986-8770 COMMUNITY CONNEXION ANNOUNCES STRONGHOLD VERSION 1.3 Oakland, CA - Community ConneXion, Inc., the leader in uncompromising security for the Internet, today announced the version 1.3 release of Stronghold, the commercial version of Apache-SSL. Stronghold is based on the popular Apache server, the most popular webserver on the Internet, according to the Netcraft server survey at http://www.netcraft.com/survey/. Stronghold 1.3 is a significant improvement from the Stronghold 1.2 product. The latest version is based on Apache 1.1.1, which supports features such as Keep-Alive, server information modules, a proxy server, an easier to use API, more flexibility in authentication, and greater configurability. "We're happy to have a final release version of 1.3 available," said Sameer Parekh, President of Community ConneXion. "Because of our close involvement with the Apache Group, we can quickly track new Apache releases. We expect to have an Apache 1.2-based server available soon after the Apache 1.2 release." Stronghold 1.3 is the result of an extensive Internet-wide beta test, which started soon after the full release of Apache 1.1.1. Apache 1.1.1 includes features such as the status module, which gives the server administrator the ability to monitor in real time the server's activity. An information module is also available which gives administrators easy access to a list of which modules have been installed on their server, as well as their configuration directives. The latest version includes modules which support database access, including mSQL and Postgres95. Apache 1.1.1 has much more flexible configuration with regards to virtual hosts and multiple IP addresses. This feature allows such innovations as the ability within Stronghold 1.3 to serve both SSL and nonSSL documents from the same server instance. The latest version of Stronghold supports "Session ID Caching," which allows for dramatic performance improvements. Session caching allows servers to process connections much faster because the processor intensive calculations happen less often. Limited performance tests have shown speed improvements of eight hundred percent. "With Session ID Caching, the SSL protocol is not noticably slower than not using the encryption protocol. There is no excuse not to encrypt everything," said Parekh. Community ConneXion is now shipping binaries for Sparc Solaris 2.5, x86 Solaris 2.5, Sparc SunOS 4.1.3_U1, FreeBSD 2.1, BSDI 1.1, AIX 3.2.5, IRIX 5.3, HP/UX, OSF/1, Ultrix, BSDI 2.0, and Linux (ELF & a.out). More platforms will be available soon, and even more may be supported on request. Stronghold may be ordered and downloaded at http://www.us.apache-ssl.com/. Existing commercial licensees may download the latest version free of charge. Portions developed by the Apache Group, taken with permission from the Apache Server http://www.apache.org/. This product includes software developed by Ben Laurie for use in the Apache-SSL HTTP server project. This product includes software developed by Eric Young (eay(a)mincom.oz.au)

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Whereis is the shell scsh?
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, I printed and skimmed through the Secure Shell FAQ. Is there a version for csh instead of sh? -- OBC

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Re: BlackNet as a Distributed, Untraceable, Robust Data Haven
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:40 PM 8/17/96 -0700, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > >>I have to speak up here and say that there is an actual working exemplar of >>a distributed, untraceable data haven. While it lacks a robust _payment_ >>mechanism, that is also untraceable, so does the "Visit Port Watson" >>example (which has never actually existed). > >agree with Jim Bell that blacknet by any stretch of the imagination >is not a "data haven". I've not yet commented on this thread! Sounds like you're confusing me with somebody else. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Private Idaho
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could anyone tell me the URL of the latest version of Private Idaho..... Thank You! ========================================== Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk

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Re: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike McNally wrote: >Bart Croughs wrote: >> ... better arguments (after reading the books I suggested) >Like what is it with you and these books? Is "Austrian" a code word >for "Divine omniscient extraterrestrial super-being"? No, but a number of posters claimed they were Austrians, and among them was Timothy May. So if I can show that Timothy's statements contradict the economic theories he says he supports on the most fundamental level (the level of methodology), then I have a pretty solid case that he is a bit confused and that he should do his homework better before he continues arguing. Unless of course he can show the Austrians (or me) to be wrong; but he hasn't done this yet. >Through all this sophist gibberish I've completely lost track of >what exactly it is you're trying to say. I don't blame you when you get the impression that Austrian methodology, compressed in a couple of sentences, is sophist gibberish. Without the proper background knowledge, this is probably unavoidable; methodology is a rather difficult subject. But if you are really interested and want to know more about it, you now know where to look... Bart Croughs

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Re: Imprisoned Capital
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

James A. Donald wrote: >[In response the argument that attempts to imprison capital will cause >capital flight] >At 10:50 PM 8/16/96 +-200, Bart Croughs wrote: >> This is a good point when you talk about governments that will >> prevent *all* capital from flowing out. But a government could >> prevent the outflow of capital of it's own citizens, and still >> allow capital of foreigners to leave the country. As long as >> foreign capital isn't imprisoned, foreign capital could be >> attracted. >Been tried. Does not work. >1. If foreign capital is allowed to freely enter and leave, internal >players find ways to sneak their capital out. This forces the >government to start regulating and supervising foreign businessmen >in ways that at best terrify them (such controls look very much >like creeping confiscation), and at worst cause them huge harm >with no real benefits to anyone. I think you are probably right that *in practice* it will not work when the government tries to prevent domestic capital from flowing out and at the same time will allow capital of foreigners to freely flow in and out. After all, government doesn't work. But this doesn't prove the theoretical case that an outflow of capital wouldn't hurt the standard of living of workers in a country. As long as this isn't proven, governments have an excuse to try again and impose controls on capital (and this time of course, they will do it better...) Bart Croughs

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Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:42 AM 8/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >>CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers" >>to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it. Well the DOJ site still is down, but here's some details I pulled out of a USENET newsgroup this morning (hopefully L.G. Shirley won't mind the forward). All in all, it sounds like a fairly childish stunt... From: "L. G. Shirley" <lgshirley(a)mail.worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner Subject: DOJ homepage hacked!!! Date: 17 Aug 1996 22:47:59 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 49 Message-ID: <4v5i6v$hm8(a)mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> About 10PM last night I clicked on my bookmark for the Federal Gov't and then selected, by random, the Dept of Justice. http://justice2.usdoj.gov/ SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!! Someone had made a few changes, For one it is now called the Department of Injustice. You are immediately greeted by the Nazi swastika all over your screen's background. A flag w/the symbol is apparent. George Washington's picture is captioned with his words, "Move my grave to a free country! This rolling is making me an insomniac". Janet Reno's portrait has been replaced by Hitler's. And a flag now bears the Nazi symbol. She is now called Attorney General Furher. There is plenty of nudity and the many links will take you to places you may never have been before. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto! I have no clues how it was done or when. My guess is someone changed all the links to the DOJ page to another one, the one you see when you click on the DOJ's homepage. I worked today and when I came home and tried to get back to the DOJ's page, no luck. Must be a major overload <grin> of people trying to get to the link of women clad in, well, next to nothing and tied with rope! I don't think the author will make any brownie points w/women. He hacked the homepage they have w/the DOJ on violence against women. I'm not condoning such action and violence is a very serious issue but whoever did the hack was also very serious. He changed a Clinton speech on affirmative action and insulted blacks with his choice of words. There is a lot of rambling about the internet and the Gov't taking away our rights on it. The author has a interesting slant on things. This should be enough of a warning if you're easily offended by racism, hate, foul language, porn on the net, and general crudeness. Don't go there. I would like to know just how this was done, any ideas? Is it that easy to hack someones homepage? I wonder how long it'll be before this homepage link is removed and can they find who did the evil deed? Two months on the Net and just when I think I'd seen it all, wow.

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CS First Boston lawsuit
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a lawsuit files in federal court in New York City, CS First Bostom has charged an unknown party with libel, slander and violation of the Federal Telecommunications Act, as well as with impoerly obtaining confidential financial information and sending it out in e-mail messages. The lawsuit seeks damages of at least $1M against "FBCbuster" and "FBCbuster2", the aliases of an America Online AOL) subscriber or subscribers. AOL was not named as a defendant in the lawsuit, which concerns two separate e-mail messages sent to First Boston employees. The suit sais the firsy e-mail message, which was sent on March 3, included a "macabre poem" about the destruction of the firm. In a second message, sent a week later, the lswsuit states that the writer included confidential salary information about current and former officers of the firm. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: US Taxes on X-Pats
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Pardon me for jumping in...but a year ago I won a case in tax court brought aainst me by the IRA for not paying taxes on income earned while living overseas...apart from the verdict, the whole thing was a complete farce! My advice is to research the subject in detail before leaving the country and file IRS returns faithfully every year regardless of where you live even if you owe no tax (I owed no tax so filed no returns, penalty for not filing = % of tax owed, so no penalty for not filing, but only IF the IRS agrees you don't owe). Yes, there has been talk in the Clinton administration of dropping the overseas earning provision. You might want to email either Sen. Byron Dorgan or Sen. Kent Conrad of N.D. since both these guys were State Tax Commssioners before going to Washington and seem to be clued in on federal tax issues. The report I read in the Orlando Sentinel suggested that Clinton felt the exclusion was a money loser desined to help US corporations get employees to work overseas. However, it seems to me that it is also part of the complex web of international tax treaties designed to prevent double taxation. If you are a US citizen earning in a country that has an income tax they are likely going to expect you to pay tax, just as we tax foreign nationals living here. My impression is that many IRS staff lack in-depth knowledge of this very complex area (for example, I paid tax on my overseas income to the government of the country in which I was living when I earned it and that country has a tax treaty with the US...after about 6 very scary phone calls the agent assigned to the case agreed that I did not owe income tax...but then he tried to hit me up for thousands fo dollars in self-employed soc sec contribution -- when I told him that was also covered under a reciprocal treaty it was complete news to him...he asked me, and I wish I had taped the call, to send him the IRS document in which I had read this!) The result is often months of very stressful waiting, staring huge penalties in the face, while they learn up on the subject and say "I guess you're right, you don't owe that $60,000 in unpaid tax and penalties we asked the judge to award us." I still have a state tax lien triggered by this bogus action against me lying around on one of my credit reports. Respectfully...Stephen ps The recent US legislation denying soc sec benefits to legal aliens seems to be a breach of the referred to above. pps The relation to cypto is :-)?

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Re: Schlafly on crypto
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:44 PM 8/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >I don't think that Schlafy is a usefull aly any more than Bob Dole >basically its just opportunist politicians latching onto the rhetoric >of debates without engaging in the argument. Dole senses that the mood >of the country is pro crypto so he supports that, he senses that it >is anti porn so he will support that. > >Basically Schlafy is playing the same game. She is saying things that >she knows will curry favour so she can get people to join her Wacko >club. > Phil I tend to agree...anyone who thinks victory for Dole/Kemp in 96 means strong free unescrowed crypto in 97 needs to read a few history books. Stephen

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THE POUCH
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Allow me to quote from your web page: http://www.flagler.com/security.html Quote #1: "The POUCH is a secure e-mail terminal program for IBM compatible computers. It uses a secret key phrase, advanced cryptographic techniques and several unpublished algorithms to protect data in the body of e-mail messages. The key phrase, which can be up to 48 bytes long, is easily remembered and communicated. The POUCH is highly resistant to all known forms of cryptographic attack." Quote #2: "We warrant that the product when delivered to you has no short cuts, covert channels or secret solutions of any kind. No other warranty, either expressed or implied is given." These two statements are contradictory; an unpublished algorithm is itself a secret solution, and a covert channel. Why is it that software manufacturers keep popping up and spewing nonsense? Obscurity is not security. Making the algorithm proprietary does extremely little in making it resistant to attack. All of your statements regarding the security of "The Pouch" are worthless, for you have no data with which to substantiate your claims. If it is any good, there's no way for us to know. But your marketing of the product has every indication that it's nothing more than smoke and mirrors. To coin a phrase, "pseudocrypto." Please refrain from your bogus marketing techniques. This kind of stuff, by claiming to be "real cryptography" makes real cryptographers look bad. - -- C Matthew Curtin MEGASOFT, LLC Director, Security Architecture I speak only for myself. Don't whine to anyone but me about anything I say. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Have you encrypted your data today? iQCVAwUBMhdZaBhyYuO2QvP9AQHaxQP+OvqYc9U/3BTPwnEhL/9ADkzL+ulhILpj 1zbyhktoCB4yMB13WQgm05DM6lolUufo63nkhsX4giMhrQ2XCBeM5/8pxJOD2ThY 3+foxma7e3tUv8r6PjNlnhn2TzVPPgbN+6NdpUCbNtOpG8GsD4EdQ35S+H0Y+aJm 75FfHfaDrNQ= =6Zxy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:03 PM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers" >to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it. > >______c_________________________________________________________________ >Mike M Nally * Tiv^H^H^H IBM * Austin TX * For the time being, > m5(a)tivoli.com * m101(a)io.com * > <URL:http://www.io.com/~m101> * three heads and eight arms. > If anyone happens to know which vulnerability(s) this hack exploited I would be most grateful if they could let me know, either on the list or privately (stephen(a)iu.net) I am not asking for someone to publish the attack script or specifics of what was done to get in, but I would like to know what holes were used (e.g. cgi script error). Respectfully...Stephen

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Re: Private Idaho
by Shawn Dudar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:55 AM 8/18/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >Could anyone tell me the URL of the latest version of Private Idaho..... > >Thank You! >========================================== > Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> > ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± > Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk > > http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ __________________ / PGP public key |___________________________ / available on | ~ Shawn Dudar ~ |___________________ ( keyserver | |Fingerprint: / \ KeyID: 0xC0AF244D | <sdudar(a)solutions.net> |90 AA D0 52 D3 A6/ \__________________| <sdudar(a)westeel.ca> |93 96 AD C2 CB ( (_____________________________|98 12 C0 FF 30 \ PGP. Use it! Protect yourself! (____________________\ For more info, point your browser to http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/ "There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Author Unknown -- "Practice safe eating - always use condiments." -- Author Unknown -- "In a press conference held yesterday in Seattle, WA, Bill Gates formally announced that Microsoft Corporation has declared bankruptcy..." -- Dream headline --

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DEADBEEF Attack??
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I am looking for some detailed information on the "DEADBEEF" attack for key fingerprint spoofing. If anyone has any information or know where to find it please let me know. Thanks, -- ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting WebExplorer & Java Enhanced!!! Merlin Beta Test Site - WarpServer SMP Test Site Author of PGPMR2 - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice Look for MR/2 Tips & Rexx Scripts PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii(a)amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info -----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: forget photographing license plates!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:46 PM 8/17/96 -0800, Adamsc wrote: >On 15 Aug 96 01:31:08 -0800, null(a)void.com wrote: > >>"In the 22 Jul 1996 issue of Fortune was an interesting look into the future >>of automobile electronics, "Soon Your Dashboard Will Do Everything (Except >>Steer)". " >>From the control center, they can "electronically reach into the car" to >>unlock the doors, or honk the horn and flash its lights." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >How long do you think it would be before thieves subverted this feature? It already happens now. There is a device for determining the code sequence and frequency of electronic locks that was designed for locksmiths and repair personel. Thieves have been using it for breaking into vehicles. The scam usually happens in large mall parking lots. They just sit in their car and wait for you to open yours, watching for the lock information displayed. Once you are gone, they unlock it and swipe all of your freshly purchaced goodies. Theives have also been known to use replacement garage door openers to open up the homes of those too ignorant to change the default codes of their garage door systems. Something to be said for low tech in this case... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:59 PM 8/18/96 +-200, Bart Croughs wrote: > No, but a number of posters claimed they were Austrians, > and among them was Timothy May. So if I can show that > Timothy's statements contradict the economic theories > he says he supports on the most fundamental level > (the level of methodology), Obviously the Austrians, like anyone with half a brain, said that more capital means more wealth for everyone, and more capital relative to workers means a bigger share for the workers. It does not follow however, that the Austrians said that if the government directs the flow of other peoples capital like a farmer watering his fields, the fields so watered will benefit. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Why BlackNet *IS* a Data Haven
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim McCoy and Larry Dettweiler have, in their own ways, raised objections to my characterization of BlackNet (and that class of mechanisms) as a distributed, untraceable, robust "data haven." Without splitting too many semantic hairs about the precise definition of "data haven," let me examine some ways in which BlackNet behaves identically to a conventional data haven. Imagine a piece of data has been outlawed in some jurisdiction. For simplicity, imagine this to be a book, a text. Let's give it a name, "The Necronomicon." This "Necronomicon" is contraband, illegal, forbidden, banned, on The Index in many countries, including the Vatican and the United States. (This is just an example. Replace "Necronomicon" with "child porn" for a more realistic, if distasteful to many, example.) The classical, Sterling-style "data haven" would have it that this piece of data, this book, is stored and is available (perhaps for a price) in a physical site. Maybe Anguilla (thought this is appearing less and less likely), maybe "The Raft," maybe an orbiting DeathStar, maybe a weather balloon drifting in the jet stream... The classical data haven is closely identified with "place." To many people, they naturally assume "data haven" = a haven for data, a "harbor" (same IE root as haven) = a physical place. But is "place" important? Consider someone in the United States who wants a copy of the Necronomicon. He can't get it locally, as it is banned. He can try dialing-in or connecting to a country where it is not banned, but this introduces risks (as with those who download child porn, arrrange to have it shipped to them, etc.). (And the physical jurisdictions which carrry the Necronomicon, or child porn, or Church of Scientology secrets, etc., will likely be under pressure to limit or deny access.) Cryptography offers another way, as it does in so many other areas. A person in the U.S. seeking the Necronomicon posts a message to BlackNet (or any similar forum, using the same methods) asking for a copy of it, or offering to pay for it. (Whether the information is free or for a fee is not central to the idea.) This request is, of course, untraceable. Anyone, anywhere in the world, with a copy of this banned material on his or her private machines may see this request and respond, either giving the material away, or negotiating a fee. (As I said before, the absence of a robust digital cash system, bidirectionally untraceable, is a known limitation of all such systems.) Thus, it is as if there is a "virtual data haven" (tm), or a "virtual library," for banned/controversial/etc. materials. Anyone may "check out" materials by submitting requests (and perhaps paying a fee). The source of the materials is, of course, unknown. The receiver of the materials if, of course, unknown. I call this at least as functional as a "physical data haven," where someone might physically travel to Anguilla, say, to buy a copy of the Necronomicon... ...and a whole lot more convenient. This is, then, my vision of a "distributed, robust, untraceable data haven." It's a data haven. And it exists, or at least there are exemplars of it. It's lacking robust digital money, to keep the transactions untraceable, but it's here. The Church of Scientology documents essentially exist at this virtual data haven site. Think about it. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Anonymous info
by admin＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You have requested information about your account at anon.penet.fi. Your code name is: <an611909(a)anon.penet.fi> Your real e-mail address is: <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Your nickname is: <> Your password is: <> Regards, admin(a)anon.penet.fi

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MSIE 128 bit version
by Andy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I know this topic has been covered before, but could somebody point me to MSIE's 128 bit version? Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhfJNtZDmDuLFgC9AQEdgwP+MjfLcs+KiZkMg/MIR0Hp+Gz6ksgjRSvL D2NS3k3zzPNqj316Kod0/i8p+rNoWcWJ08aQRsykni1mPSkhPSxCVgEbSRv/eb+g 3ePKekPhZEaXWQDskcQ1yw4rC7meqQqKF2R1nwrohzQvX369hGsrg1xxP0jlvBuF nrrUeP3Sg4E= =d3S9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Final release of Navigator (with strong crypto) now available
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > > > Jeff Weinstein (jsw(a)netscape.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > : The final release of Navigator 3.0, complete with non-exportable > > > > : strong crypto, is now available for download by US citizens. Note > > > > : that this is the released version of 3.0, so it will not expire. > > > > : You can get it from: > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to both supply an Linux ELF and a.out binary ? > > > > > > No, we will only be supplying ELF. Since linux is not officially > > > supported, we really don't have the resources to do multiple versions. > > > > ELF is cool. What about BSD? I've seen how you support BSDI so the > > binary should work with FreeBSD or NetBSD.? > > I'm not quite sure what the question is here. Your old version supported BSDI. Will the new 128bit version support BSDI in ELF or a.out? > Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist > Netscape Communication Corporation > jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw -- Love, Qut(a)netcom.com

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by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Faun A. Skyles wrote: > Are the typical "mom & pop" mail forwarding companies going to understand > snail-mail gateways? Some of them refuse to use a computer! Oh my God. A business that didn't computerize itself. Don't they know, that modern situational ethics require a business to place itself at the mercy of a computer, whether or not the old, manual systems were working JUST FINE. And then they have to upgrade their hardare every two years, so that they can balance their checkbook in 256 colors. And then they have to upgrade to the latest version of WordPerfect every two years, whether or not the old typewriter and manila file folders were working JUST FINE. Oh how superior we young squirts are to those antiquarians. Hey, let's sit around and make fun of them and criticize them. > For example, > many charge $2 - $3 to transcribe a telephone message for you, then they > snail mail it to your next location. Oh my God. Charging the customer for each service rendered, so that those who place demands on the time of the business - pay for it. Oh my God, someone using the Postal System, which is still head-and-shoulder above the Internet in universal accessibility on the road, entry costs and security. Hey let's sit around and criticise that. After all, we don't want to admit that not every message in the world needs to be delivered to the recipient in ten minutes or less. > It's pretty low-tech. I'd like to offer a high-tech alternative. And who's stopping you? I've got ten dollars that says that you don't have the balls/intestinal fortitude to do it, and keep it going for - oh, let's say the five years that the IRS uses to judge a business's profitability? > My grandparents are still using old forms of communications too! Well that's the final straw. What a useless and meaningless life they have. We couldn't admit or accept that they've got a completely happy life, could we.

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terrorists to hit Dem convention?
by an224850＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 8 Num. 85 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") - ----------------------------------------------------------------- RUMOR MILL NEWS SERVICE #4 ========================== The Rumor Mill News Service is edited by "RU". The following, from what I can tell, appears to be RUMOR ONLY. What is more, I have NO IDEA who the author is; I received the following anonymously, with the promise of "more to come". + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + HIT THE ROAD JACK! ================== Clinton Told to Step Aside Before Democratic Convention ---------------------------- The President Retaliates: EXECUTIVE ORDER 13010 Creates Terrorist Gestapo ---------------------------- CHICAGO BRACING FOR TERRORISTS! ------------------------------- Police State Reactivated In Chicago Is The Nation Far Behind? ----------------------------------- Will Clinton Use EO# 13010 To Declare Martial Law? -------------------------------------------------- Later this month, the Democratic Convention returns to Chicago. When it was there in 1968, the country was ablaze in anti-Viet Nam War fever. Anti-war demonstrators all but brought the convention and Chicago to their knees. In today's world, demonstrators are labeled terrorists. Armed with today's stronger "label," the Chicago police are gearing up for a repeat performance of the Chicago 7 and "Brutalmania." Terrorists have officially replaced demonstrators, according to the terrorist bill recently passed by Congress. As an accompaniment to the terrorist bill, "Terrorist Bill" signed Presidential Executive Order 13010, the Critical Infrastructure Protection Order. This Presidential Order creates a special Task Force called the Infrastructure Protection Task Force, IPTF. The sweeping array of power and information that will be provided to the IPTF makes FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Association] look like the Mouseketeers. -+- Effective Date August 17 -+- The Presidential Order goes into effect August 17, just shortly after the Republican Convention. Speculation exists that the Terrorist Gestapo will be trotted out just in time to prevent riots and terrorism in Chicago at the Democratic Convention. As a result of the expected terrorist threat, the Chicago police superintendent has seen fit to restore all the old police powers, powers that some citizens of Chicago say bordered on a police state. -+- The Red Squad Joins The Terrorist Gestapo -+- The infamous Chicago Police intelligence unit, the Red Squad, has been reactivated and given an all-encompassing directive of keeping the city free from terrorist activity. The Red Squad bears a striking resemblance, on a local level, to the Terrorist Gestapo created by Presidential Executive Order #13010, which goes into effect on August 17. The Democratic Convention begins August 26. Thanks to the new terrorist bill and the Presidential Executive Order on protecting the critical infrastructure, the new handy-dandy terrorist label can easily fit almost anyone in any situation. Back in 1968, the police were slightly encumbered by the Constitution and "probable cause." Under today's terrorist bill, which was passed in the nick of time to ensure terrorist cooperation at the convention, the Chicago police no longer have to be hamstrung by the "outdated," "antiquated" Constitution. "The IPTF's function is to identify and coordinate existing expertise, inside and outside of the Federal Government." In Chicago, the "existing expertise" is the Red Squad. Under Executive Order 13010 the IPTF, otherwise known as the Terrorist Gestapo, is ordered to "provide, or facilitate and coordinate the provision of, expert guidance to critical infrastructures *to* *detect*, *prevent*, *halt*, *or* *confine* *an* *attack*..." Chicago is getting ready to declare martial law to protect the President and other members of the Democratic party while they are at the convention. They will coordinate all activities with the Terrorist Gestapo. The IPTF has been given the go-ahead to detect, prevent, halt or confine an attack. All executive departments and agencies have been ordered to cooperate with the IPTF and provide requested assistance. Furthermore, all executive departments and agencies have been ordered to share information when "requested" by IPTF. In other words, the Terrorist Gestapo has been given an all-encompassing power by Executive Order 13010. Anyone or any agency or department that refuses a "request" made by the IPTF can be labeled a traitor or a terrorist and prosecuted accordingly. This Terrorist Gestapo force will parlay its power into a national police force. The tap dance they plan on doing in Chicago with the old Chicago Red Squad will be a trial run to see how much they can get away with in order to call up the next round of Presidential Executive Orders and Directives. -+- Even the Sewer Covers Are Welded Shut -+- To prevent terrorist moles from infiltrating any part of the convention, the police have even welded shut all the storm sewers around the United Center in Chicago, the forum for the Democratic Convention. -+- Step Down or Step Aside -+- Does all the rapid activity in the Office of Presidential Executive Orders have anything to do with the secret White House meeting which took place Saturday, August 3, 1996? The meeting took place barely a day and a half after President Clinton raged at a Rose Garden news conference. He had been asked if he had gone back on his word to pay the legal bills for fired and then prosecuted White House Travel Office employee, Billy Dale. He bristled in anger and rage and began berating the CBS correspondent who asked the question. As his temper and voice rose, Chief of Staff Leon Panetta was seen frantically waving to press aides to end the news conference. As the President's staff tried to herd him back into the safety of the Oval Office, the President was heard screaming at the media. Could the reason for this uncharacteristic outburst of temper and rage have been that the President knew that 10 of the top leaders of the Democratic party were planning on ordering him to step down or step aside, and do it two days before the Democratic Convention begins in Chicago? RMNews sources from the Chicago and Washington stations have reported that the secret meeting was chaired by former DNC Chairman and Ambassador to Russia, Robert Strauss. Mr. Strauss, who vehemently denies being at the meeting, is considered the ranking elder statesman of the Democratic party. Strauss and his gang of 10 high-ranking Democratic leaders allegedly told Clinton that the gathering storm of indictments and revelations against Hillary would destroy the Democratic Party. The President was shown a photograph of the upcoming federal criminal indictment which accuses her of perjury and obstruction of justice. The President shouted in rage that they were all "traitors." Knowing that Executive Order 13010 had just created the Terrorist Gestapo, the President's angry use of the word traitor carried sinister and potentially deadly overtones to the 10 brave men who are risking their careers and lives to save the Democratic Party. Countering Clinton's raging outburst with one of his own, Ambassador Strauss reportedly smashed an ashtray on a desk near the President and shouted, "You use cocaine and liquor. You are unfit to deal with worldwide emergencies." The President screamed back at Strauss with a string of obscenities and curses. Strauss fired back that the President is acting deranged and as such could be removed by the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. Strauss allegedly ordered the President to resign his office or to declare before the Democratic Convention that he does not wish to be nominated for a second term. The President has never officially declared that he is a candidate for the Presidency. Of course, since, as already noted, Strauss denies having been present in person at the August 3rd meeting, he presumably would also deny having smashed down an ashtray, having engaged in a shouting match with President Clinton, etc. Prior to the secret meeting, the "Gang of 10," with the aid of others, have secretly arranged for damaging stories on the president and his wife to leak out. One story was already leaked by the Director of Central Intelligence, John Deutch. The CIA Director ordered the Inspector General to investigate claims that U.S. Intelligence Agencies were involved in illegal arms shipments and drug smuggling at an isolated airstrip in Mena, Arkansas during the years that Bill Clinton was Governor. Susan Schmidt of the Washington Post broke the story on August 7, four days after the secret White House ultimatum. [CN: Late breaking: Deutch now says he wants to resign as DCIA and return to the Pentagon. Did trying to lift the lid on Mena expose him to too much hostility within CIA? Or perhaps, as suggested by Linda Thompson, it is "cross pollination" between CIA and the military.] Clinton later sent word to the Gang of 10 that he did not accede to their demands. He was then told that a floor fight would take place at the Democratic Convention by prominent delegates. These delegates would charge him and the first lady with participating in a string of crimes and accuse them of damaging or destroying the Democratic Party. -+- The Secret Trials Begin -+- With the all-encompassing powers given to the Terrorist Gestapo by Presidential Order 13010, "Terrorist Bill" has the power to "confine an attack." The attack upon the Office of the President is coming from loyal Democrats. Using the power of the Executive Order that he just signed, the President now has the power to label any loyal Democrat a traitor and a terrorist and "confine" him in order to "halt" his upcoming activities against the President. The words within the quotation marks are the exact words taken from Executive Order 13010. RMNews has reported that Chicago is run by the Rothschild family. In that issue, Bill Clinton's illegitimate Rockefeller roots were detailed. The deadly feud between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds was also described. Bill Clinton, the politician, was created by his maternal grandfather, Winthrop Rockefeller, a former governor of Arkansas. He was promoted and supported by the Rockefellers. But even the Rockefellers have seen the writing on the wall. Bill Clinton is a disaster for America. Four more years of Clinton and his wife could destroy the Rockefeller base in America. It could bring down the illegal Federal Reserve, abolish the IRS and create full-scale warfare in the streets of America. While limited riots and wars are always good for business, the type of war that a continued Clinton presidency could bring will totally devastate and destroy the Rockefeller family, as well as all other wealthy Americans. In other words, America would be leveled and possibly conquered by an outside power. If this outside power is backed by the blood enemy of the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, there is little doubt that any of the vast Rockefeller fortune would be spared. More than likely it would all be nationalized for the benefit of the state. Sensing the danger to themselves by their illegitimate creation, the Rockefellers have seen fit to demand that Bill Clinton remove himself from the office. If he chooses to fight them, he will have the support of their enemies, the Rothschilds. Could that be the real reason that the Democratic convention is being held in Chicago this year? Is the Chicago Red Squad owned outright by the Rothschilds? Will the Gang of 10 find themselves "confined," i.e., detained for questioning for the duration of the Democratic Convention? RMNews Agency. 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No Subject
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Aug 18, 96 11:12:16 am, Joel M Snyder, Now Overwhelmed Again wrote: > Back to the original topic: email-to-snail-mail. That's not hard, > technologically. The problem as I see it is billing. If I were to offer > such a service, I'd want to keep my cost to the consumer low, on the order > of $0.75 to $1.00 per message, with marginal charges for additional pages. > I might possibly barely be able to find some slave labor to make a profit > at doing it, IF I HAD THE VOLUME (which I probably wouldn't), but the > overhead of setting up a billing arrangement with every TDH who wants to do > it would eat the profits up instantly. > > It's difficult to conceive of a setup which a technomad would use in > sufficient volumes to be cost-effective. How about the sender provides a Digicash e-cash payment for the appropriate amount with each message, kind of like a electronic postage stamp? A script on the receiving side could automatically check the payment amount, bouncing the message back to sender with an "insufficient payment" message if necessary. Or you could use a web page to submit messages and payments. Either way no one needs to worry about billing, account tracking, etc. Payment/billing is taken care of immediately. Of course, there is some overhead with the fees on e-cash, but it probably would be more cost effective than other methods. P.S. I have an alpha version of a program which may be of interest to technomads: it automatically executes scripts received by email from a remote machine and then mails back the results. The scripts (shell scripts, perl scripts, or whatever) are encrypted and signed with PGP before being sent to provide security and prevent unauthorized users from executing scripts on your machine. The program runs on unix systems, and submissions can be from anything that runs PGP and is able to send email. See: http://www.bmen.tulane.edu/~carpente/emscrypt/emscrypt.html for more info. --Matt -- mcarpent(a)mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu PGP mail preferred, finger for public key.

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