December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Location Escrow anyone ?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all, >> "Swisscom has stored data on the movements of more than a million mobile >> phone users. It can call up the location of all its mobile subscribers down >> to a few hundred meters and going back at least half a year," the paper >> reported. > >They probably say a few hundred meters so the people don't feel >their privacy is too ridiculously invaded / soften the blow. > >If this is a GSM network then I think they can probably pinpoint >your location down to 2 possible locations within a few meters >due to the digital timing involved with the very precise spread >spectrum radio. Or maybe your actual location within a meter or 2. > >I have heard of digital mobile phones that have a feature in their test/diag >mode that displays the distance to the current base station in meters, >and also displays info of a second base station that it would most likely >switch to when moving out of the current cell. >Even if the telco only had the distance info to your phone within a meter >from 2 of their base stations, they could calculate where you are if need >be to 2 possible locations within meters. >Surely though they would have the capability of recording distance info >from 3 base stations, pin pointing you exactly during a call or the exact >spot your phone requested a cell change. > >And during a call, if need be, they could probably plot your position at >around 10,000 samples per second. :) Though for them to be keeping >this much info on you, you are obviously being investigated. > >Isn't it ironic that people who use GSM for it's "security" can have this >much info of their whereabouts known to big brother/whoever? >Not to mention their actual conversation. > >Imagine Mr.Drug Dealer turns up to court and watches as the jury is >presented with a floorplan on screen and an animated pinpoint of his >phones position while a recording of his conversation is played in sync? > >The world just about, has no idea! >To say big brother is watching is a gross understatement. :) > >He's gunna find out who's naughty and nice. > >Bye for now.

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] (fwd)
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1/1/98 2:19 PM, Jim Choate (ravage(a)ssz.com) passed this wisdom: >> Subject: Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] >> From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> >> Date: 01 Jan 1998 13:47:02 -0500 > >> 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised >> concealment locations are great during firing, but when you move >> to cycle the action on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment >> shake or otherwise reveal yourself. Against a force with >> sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely > >> All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, >> I'd take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style >> scout-sniping, or > >You obviously haven't seen the flash or the dust cloud from one of >these beasties fired from ground level. Hiding at anything less >than a mile is notsomething you're going to do very well. IIRC, the Barret gun with all its gear is also a multiperson load as well, so the 'alone' part isn't very valid either. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNKx6SD7r4fUXwraZAQEzGgf/Ymp7/s0+FlgpBQgNs81x8cqasRAjFrIf gvF0fG+XsLeoDaeohFf1uKUktkYE0zoO5G3IBBY9QJ69uPYDKlyFfQJldWYHPL56 2i9bfMuqnrj+sCOLJl54X/WaucO9WrUYNC16RulXblPohj8HBqGp9y73iybbfycb mQdbfhyTYeuM5X3vjcCOVzKHTl4hPqxijeJjL4OUtx5NeUDnZWlp9PRkVDY5CHLu dvr8LJvmbF9vzUSOLAjUeHD3j8rjzR8wRQ9ZeeDkH6leevjuI1NAH/J1xB5bWxgC zrzud/QFgs0rX38YZlLnpP4iekXcqWaq2j+SfptBD1BthK7nuqf9mg== =33z2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Saying windows 95 is equal to Macintosh is like finding a potato that looks like Jesus and believing you've seen the Second Coming." -- Guy Kawasaki (MacWorld, Nov '95)

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Time to Pay the Piper
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> >To: "Attila T. Hun" <attila(a)hun.org>, > cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net> >Subject: Re: Making them eat their words... (while they watch!) >Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:56:54 -0800 > > At 05:15 PM 12/21/1997 +0000, Attila T. Hun wrote: >> there is only one solution to organizations like M$ >> which are operated without ethics: treat them to the >> pleasures of not only the antitrust laws but the >> exquisite delights of RICO. > Nonsense, and I'm surprised to hear this from you. No, Bill. it's not nonsense... 1) when a true market monopoly exists, society _is_ entitled to intervene. I wrote my Harvard thesis on antitrust and the effect on society of a monopoly, regulated in the public interest as in AT&T v. the industrial monopolies. this may have been 35 years ago, but the principles are even more imperative now with the increasing concentration of real wealth both individually and corporately in the hands of a few. 2) why should you be surprised to hear this from me? sure, I would prefer anarchy per se, but have absolutely no faith that the vast majority would do anything except rape, pillage, and plunder. and, I think I have made my beliefs more than plain over the history trail of cypherpunks. anarchy is nothing more than an isolationist theory; as a political system it does not work --never has, never will. ergo, there is a need for some government in the interest of the people (sheeple, if you prefer). man has not proved his worth on this planet, and whether or not you believe in God is irrelevant. the last several generations have bequeathed a wilting, dying polluted earth to their children and grandchildren. therefore, I am neither your revolutionary anarchist nor your "lost in the clouds" libertarian idealist; I am just a pragmatist who wishes we could govern with an enlightened electorate in the manner of a New Hampshire town meeting; a pragmatist that I believe limited regulation is essential, but a foolish dreamer to hope for an enlightened electorate. > Treat them to the pleasures of the free market - > if you don't like them, start a Boycott M$ campaign, > and see if people stop buying their lousy software. no, Bill, there is no alternative in the mass market. A perfect example is Gate$ buying _both_ WebTV and their competitor to make sure he has _all_ the action. another is EnCarta. Gate$ gave it away until the other vendors dropped out of the market; now M$ charges for the encyclopedia. Gate$ is the perfect example of not only a pure monopoly with 90% of the OS market, but also a constructive monopoly who has leveraged the first position to force monopolies in other areas: 95% of word processing, 95% of spreadsheets, and approaching the total domination of the browser market. Secondly, Gate$ is spreading into the control of the means of distribution in cable, networks, etc. and likewise into media content. Gate$ current actions are those of a spoiled four year old child who sees nothing wrong with demanding it all. > The direct democracy of the free market is far more > appropriate than government here - it's $1/vote, > and if enough people vote against M$ they'll get the hint, > and it enough people vote _for_ M$, it's none of your > business. WRONG! when 90% of the voters are dependent on M$, M$ has bought the vote. to the average user, to vote against M$ is to vote against a free v. a not-free browser, etc. WRONG AGAIN: the OEM computer group has no choice either; software is available from virtually every software house for M$ --and only M$. therefore the OEM has no choice of operating system. without the software, any competing OS is useless. M$ has also intimidated and constrained the software houses. Corel is a good case in point with M$ threatening to withhold critical information on Windows 95 if Corel delivered their 32 bit product to OS/2 first. WRONG AGAIN: M$ has required OEMs to load Explorer as part of the "privilege" to be able to load the OS. That is restraint of trade. when they try to exercise total market control through their customers with their own marketing policies. WRONG AGAIN: M$ is forcing Explorer on totally non-related software vendors. Why should the accounting software vendor in MN be required to load Explorer to be able to distribute the OS --and, most additional M$ packages in networking, etc required Explorer for essential DLLs. this is "binding" in FTC unfair practices regulations. > It _is_ funny to see the Feds hiring a big corporate lawyer > to run their case; I guess they don't think Federal Prosecutors > are good enough. Surely if a low-level prosecutor can't hack it, > they should use their boss, and on up the hierarchical chain. > If Janet Reno can't do it either, they should replace her with > someone who can :-) GRIN? Bill, I'm surprised you would say this. Reno is not an anti-trust specialist. just how many of them are there in the country as a whole? not many? why? --not much anti-trust action; usually the FTC has been able to block mergers, etc. before they become a menace to society such as M$ has become. this is where the failure of the free market comes in: few companies manage to attain the total monopoly position; _none_ to date have done so with clean hands. frankly, Gate$' hands are dirtier than Cornelius Vanderbilt's hands were in his heyday; and Cornelius Vanderbilt made John D. Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan look like angels. Gate$' literally has not only violated the anti-trust laws and the FTC rules on fair competition, but he has done so deliberately in what can easily be defined as a conspiracy to limit or prevent access to the market --and that can be construed as a RICO offense --and should be. Neither Gate$ nor Ballmer show the slightest interest in backing off what they consider their God given rights in a free market to rape, pillage, and burn; they feel that M$ is entitled to tell the American (or world) buyer what he wants to buy. monopoly eliminates freedom of choice. I do not usually have much use for Jesse Berst, whom I generally consider a senseless and shameless M$ schill, like the rest of Ziff-Davis; however, this is what Jesse had to say Monday: Jesse Berst, 22 Dec. "I'm a fan of its [Microsoft's] accomplishments and its great products. More than that, I'm a fan of personal computing. That's why I can say that it's better for us -- and better for Microsoft -- if the DOJ forces the company to play fair. Only intense competition can keep a company from the hardening of the attitudes that eventually damaged companies such as IBM, Digital, Wang and Data General." to engender that competition, M$ needs to be forced to divest either operating systems or products. despite any imagined gains of their increasing integration, the market can not fall to a monolithic line and then expect further advances with no-one nipping at M$' heels unfortunately, M$ idea of competition has not been to be just the market leader --it has fostered an attitude that it can be the only player. and like all monopolies, M$ has fallen into the Al Sloan mode ("What's good for General Motors is good for the country"). more Jesse Berst, 22 Dec. "That's why I can say with all sincerity, the more you like Microsoft, the more you admire its accomplishments, the more you appreciate its products, the more you should root for the DOJ to win its latest case. Anybody who thinks otherwise should be forced to attend every single match of the World Wide Wrestling Federation next year. That will give them an up-close-and-painful taste of what happens when you do away with competition. Jesse, the Microsoft schill, is now at least as strident as I have been since the late 80s when the uncontrolled direction of Gate$' marketing and operating system leverage over office products became more than evident. the DOJ should have broken M$ into separate companies in 1994. instead, the DOJ made a deal with a "Joe Stalin", who, true to Lenin's manifestos, would sign any treaty which bought him time to develop the prohibited weapons --then he broke it. M$ violated the consent decree before it was certified in court and. in reality, applied even more onerous terms to the hardware OEM vendors; we are reaping the results of Gate$ incredible arrogance today. Gate$ also broke the public trust by arrogantly usurping by whatever means more of the market --his actions today are untenable in a civilized market. any suggestions that if you do not like M$, you should not buy M$ products are hollow inanities --to the public, there is no alternative --economies of scale and market dominance have wiped out all but a few niche market vendors. the sheeple never revolt; they just follow the Judas goat to the abattoir happily enjoying the free software while Gate$ builds his tollGate$ (nice pun --guess I will add that to my lexicon). the sheeple will not be happy when they find themselves being nicked for every transaction, on or off Gate$' networks. --and if Gate$ actions over the past 3 years were not enough, his ridiculous, affrontive, and offensive response to the Judge's order is prima facie evidence of not only a monopoly, not only a constructive monopoly, but a tyrannical, maniacal monster who is still a spoiled four year old brat with absolutely no conscience or sense of social responsibility. the fact Steve Ballmer, et al, echo this dictatorial policy in violation of US law is prima facia evidence of an ongoing criminal enterprise which employs extortion --yes, literally extortion-- in the furtherance of its business plan --and this is a RICO offense for which Gate$ and his henchman certainly appear to have deservedly earned the right to 3 hots and a cot for the 20 years minimum on the lesser RICO charge, or mandatory life imprisonment on a conspiracy of greater than 6. Secondly, none of Gate$ lieutenants and captains can claim they acted under orders; it wont fly any more than it flew at Nuremberg. Esther Dyson (with Margie Wylie of CNET) But it is big government that's watching them, not ... Yes--and that's why we need to keep...I mean, God bless the Justice Department for fighting Microsoft; God bless Microsoft for creating good products, and the customers for keeping everybody in line. This is what I want: I don't want anybody to win. I want the game to keep going. I want little guys to keep on coming up and tweaking the noses of the big guys. I've always been a believer in antitrust. It's the concentration of power that bothers me, not whether it's "for profit" or "for government." And I've never claimed to be or not to be a Libertarian. People put labels on things and stop thinking. a good clear statement from Dyson on the public interest. do you think M$ should be permitted to behave in their autocratic and callous manner towards software developers who have no need for Explorer? Brian Glaeske, a programmer/analyst with Fargo, North Dakota-based Great Plains Software, complained to the US Justice Department last month that Microsoft effectively requires him and others to provide its browser in his accounting software, which has nothing to do with the World Wide Web or the Internet. "Microsoft should not be permitted to force third-party developers to redistribute Microsoft Internet Explorer in order to use [new] features," Glaeske wrote to Joel Klein, the Justice Department's top pursuer of antitrust allegations. is not Glaeske's position reasonable? the real point however, does not relate to the browser; the bottom line is that Glaeske, and most of the software developers, do not have an alternative to Microsoft as an operating system. Oh, sure, some clients will run Unix flavours and there are vendors for most high profile applications on unix and OS/2, but the vast majority (90%) of the clients take the easy way out and go Microsoft --M$ is what the employees have at home; M$ is what the "trained" employees have used before.... there are millions of arguments, after WinTel being cheaper, why they should not change --starting with "why should we be different?" a pure free market is anarchy; anarchy may be a wonderful idea for utopian people; the human race is far from being anything except a selfish, greedy collection of individuals who are constrained either by the threats of fire and brimstone from the church, or the laws of the land which punish transgressions of socially acceptable behaviour --fair or not. even Teddy Roosevelt wrote that anarchists should be hunted down and exterminated like vermin. William H. Gates III is just another robber baron who really believes the statement: "What's good for Microsoft is good for the country." Al Sloan never realized his monopoly with General Motors, although there have been periods where GM was over 50% of the market (when Chrysler was close to failing). Bill Gates has created an effective monopoly _world_ _wide_ which far surpasses any monopoly ever created by one individual or company; even John D. Rockefeller did not come close to Gate$' power. John D. was also rather benevolent. IBM never approached Gate$' level of monopoly. Gate$ has proven, and is proving while the very litigation is going on, that he is not a benevolent monopolist; there is only one way: Bill's way, and everyone will think like Bill, or they will be the vermin to be exterminated. and, that, my friends, is why there is such a thing as the public interest; and it should have been exercised on BadBillyG in 1994. my vote goes to prosecute Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, at the very least, for violations of the Sherman Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act, and the Robinson-Patman amendments (FTC, etc.) to the full extent of the law, including criminal violations as warranted under those titles; and prosecute under the RICO statutes for an ongoing racketeering (extortion is racketeering) and criminal enterprise. frankly, I am disappointed that it has come to this, but Gate$ greed and lust for power has not only exceeded his common sense, it has transgressed the boundary of baseline social responsibility. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. 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Re: Location Escrow anyone ?
by Kay Ping 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>ZURICH (December 28, 1997 4:12 p.m. EST http://www.nando.net) - Swiss >>police have secretly tracked the whereabouts of mobile phone users via a >>telephone company computer that records billions of movements going back >>more than half a year, a Sunday newspaper reported. > >Don't be fooled that this is a swiss only problem. It's being done here in >Amerika right now. The FCC has issued a ruling that will require all cellular telephone carriers to provide location information on all 911 calls. By the year 2001, this location information is to provide 125 metres of accuracy 67% of the time. Helping emergency services locate 911 callers is a great excuse for installing a cellular location system. Even better than the excuses they gave for eavesdropping-ready digital switches and limits on encryption. - -------------- Kay Ping nop 'til you drop -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: cp850 iQEQAwUBNKyXURHPAso8Qp7tAQH+LgfRATtByYG8nB+gbqvrJ96SGdhRPhXUWnzl 7gHW9+nr6lNQxgbFnU1cpOKR76Y0MEj80ls9n9DojlQuIKJD1RHXc7GQA3k0IVZU yXYyy8Z89dvVUxprVjt0MylxY1+fP7pGLVcViz9jZ/5cgZSgUdRKQNAWpp9g/Ww4 8GYSXGYGrC8hCPoD+i/cjwC3FEQVD+GzSmXnadK8a2a+stiehN1bw/p61+vizxQZ C9YG1AS54Ttzh/jUjnHmRwNYtY4J0i9zUXxElbwj8PcOW9GewTPw+/6fiQ63c35Q 2pCi2q9dk1jFtgIXfrBusSkKS9wP0yYmtLG6lc52YtC6MNE= =+pHY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Which reminds me. We never did get a good one for the Russians. Any >nominations? Klintonkov? As in Comrade Klintonkov?

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Re: remailer
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 20:44 01/01/98 EST, you wrote: > Check out <http://www.cyberpass.net/~winsock/>, for a remailer that will > run on any winsock compatible connection. I think there is a ftp site in > europe. I can't remember if it runs on NT, so check out the site. Thanks for the help - I've tried the latest version with no luck. The docs state that it works under win95 now but there are still some issues with NT 4.0 Has anyone got this to work under NT? I really want to give something back to the remailer/cypherpunk community and this is the only way I can think of. If anyone has experience of the Winsock remailer and can help...

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Re: Meganet's Unbreakable Virtual Matrix Encryption Takes the Market by Storm; Finally in 1998 Absolute Security...
by jim＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IChudov relays from CNN Custom News: > Repeat/Meganet's Unbreakable Virtual Matrix Encryption Takes > the Market by Storm; Finally in 1998 Absolute Security... That reminds me... in PR Newswire on 16 Dec 1997 it was reported that IBM had endorsed Meganet's VME, and recommended that NIST replace the DES standard with it (presumably in the AES bake-off). This was humorous enough that I thought it worth sharing with IBM -- I ingenously asked them whether it was true, and, if so, how they came to the conclusion that it was a useful product. They responded: I would like to apologize for the length of time it took to reply to your message. I had to make a few phonecalls and had to wait for someone to get back to me. I spoke with a Cryptography Specialist and she informed me that IBM has, in fact, not tested their product and therefore has not endorsed it. IBM has no further comment regarding the report. I hope this helps. Thank you for using askIBM. George Lavasidis (ASKIBM(a)vnet.ibm.com) IBM Internet Support Group 1-800-IBM-4YOU I, too, have no further comment. Jim Gillogly Hevensday, 11 Afteryule S.R. 1998, 20:11 12.19.4.14.11, 8 Chuen 9 Kankin, Third Lord of Night

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Microsoft
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Windows is still fucking me up the ass! I'm bleeding to death here!

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best body armor for cypherpunks [serious]
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is, in your opinion, the best (price and performance-wise) body armor for cypherpunks?

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E-Cash cost advantage acknowledged
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Remember all the stuff I say about the markedly reduced costs of digital bearer transactions? Wanna bet that if a bunch of big bankers say the cost reduction one order of magnitude, given Moore's Law and a little programming elbow grease, we can bring it down to three? Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text X-Sender: schear(a)mail.lvdi.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:01:06 -0800 To: rah(a)shipwright.com From: Steve Schear <schear(a)lvdi.net> Subject: E-Cash cost advantage acknowledged The vast cost advantages of e-cash transactions was acknowledged in a Banking Industry Technology Secretariat (BITS) paper presented at last year's Electronic Payment Forum meeting in Hilton Head, SC on July 17-18, 1997. http://www.epf.net/PrevMtngs/July97Mtng/Presentations/Schutzer/index.htm BITS, a Division of The Bankers Roundtable, members are the 125 largest U.S. holding companies represent 70% of financial assets and deposits in the United States and employ over 1 million people. Projections provided by Salomon Brothers, Nilson Report, Financial Institutions and Markets, and Boston Consulting Group, show e-cash transaction costs easily outdistance ACH/EFT by a factor of 10. Credit cards will be about 40 times as costly. Even the highly touted ECP (Electronic Check Payment) approaches are likely to be 20 times as expensive. What is most interesting is that despite this acknowledgement almost all the BITS member institutions are pursuing a path away from e-cash and second place EFT embracing higher margin (and higher merchant/consumer cost) alternatives, for example VISACash (cash in name only). In fact, many major banks see EFT/POS (and e-cash) is a threat to their franchises and have moved to keep them from expansion through non-competitive practices and regulatory pressure. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 First ECache Corporation | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me ECache or give me debt! "It's your Cacheª" --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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[Humor] Kennedy's New Legislation
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Something amusing from alt.true-crime with definite crypto parallels to certain Swinestein and Freeh initiatives. It is rare to find material that rises to the Toto level of comedy on Usenet. ----- Newsgroups: alt.true-crime Subject: Kennedy Death Spurs Legislative Initiative Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 22:44:03 GMT Message-ID: <68jrg6$eil(a)dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> BOSTON, Mass. (AP) - Sen. Ted Kennedy announced here today that he will introduce a bill limiting access to skis and ski poles. The "Winter Sports Safety Bill" is believed to be a reaction to the recent death of the Senator's nephew Michael Kennedy in a skiing accident. "When skis were invented, they were made out of wood," Kennedy said. "Today's skis are simply to powerful and dangerous to be in the hands of people. There is no constitutional right to skiing. We feel that people will have to sacrifice some of their freedoms for the protection of society as a whole." One provision will license all dealers in skis. These licenses will involve fingerprinting, background checks, body cavity searches, and photographs of anybody wishing to be in the business of selling skis and ski poles. Another section of the bill bans any ski pole under 36" in length and any ski which is not at least 48" in length. The bill also addresses ski wax. Studies have shown that some waxes actually make the skis go faster, creating a greater danger of death to the skier. Skiers also use the faster skis to outrun the ski patrol, which is not an acceptable practice. A five day waiting period will be required for all ski and ski pole sales. People will be required to provide their social security number and floor plan of their homes before being permitted to purchase skis. "There are simply too many people getting excited about skiing. Easy access to skis is the major reason people get killed on those things. They should have to wait before they can pick up their skis. I am sure that this 'cooling off period' will save lives," Kennedy said. Another bill has been introduced that will ban 'ski carrying devices' on tops of cars that have a capacity of greater than ten skis. "There is simply no reason why anybody needs more than ten skis. You can't ski on more than two at the same time. People with more than ten skis are simply up to no good," said Kennedy. Statistics quoted by the Center for Disease Control show that skiing was second only to drowning as the leading cause of death for people close to the Kennedy family. OTHER RELATED STORIES: - Ted Kennedy Denies Driving Michael to Aspen. - Study Links Skiing to Suicides. - Clinton Calls for Restrictions on "Cop Killer" Ski Poles. - Washington DC to Buy Back Skis for $2 Each. - Dianne Feinstein Vows Defeat for the National Skiing Association. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: FCPUNX:Anonymous IRC (was 'Cypherpunks IRC Christmas EveParty')
by Lance Cottrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:32 AM +0000 12/31/97, wayne clerke wrote: >On Tuesday, December 30, 1997 7:56 AM, Mark Hedges >[SMTP:hedges@rigel.cyberpass.net] wrote: >> >> >> We found IRC users to be so involved in petty information wars -- >> ping floods, malicious prank hacking, and the like -- that we directed >> policy against use of IRC from the anonymous shell accounts at CyberPass. >> >> If IRC users weren't so easily lulled by the tempation to crash a server >> or run malicious bots or just plain irritate other people for fun, and >> if they would gang up and kick out people who did that, then perhaps we'd >> switch that back on. >> >> They were just too much overhead. Everyone else seems pretty nice, really, >> as far as the system goes. They're all self-interested in keeping the >> anonymous publishing and so on going, so the peace keeps itself. > > >What's the reason behind the policy direction against the use of personal web >proxies running in a (paid for) shell account? >Seems like less risk than you already accept anyway. Something I've missed? > System load is the issue in this case. If a proxy becomes publicly known the load it imposes on the system could quickly become gigantic. In addition we found that people were setting up proxies on any old port, sometimes causing all kinds of conflicts. Our accounts are priced assuming light personal usage. Running servers on our systems is negotiable. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)infonex.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. http://www.infonex.com/~loki/ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Bulk Email For Profit
by ruemou32＠cc1.kuleuven.ac.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely swamped with email inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do. And each one of these bulk mailings costs me nothing. I can teach you how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll need. If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the floodgates. You'll be deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales, using nothing but email alone. Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite my marketing letters a half dozen times before I get the results I'm looking for. But once you have a good letter, as you probably know, you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month. It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to THOUSANDS of fresh email addresses. I can do this, thanks to a Windows program I use. It's called Floodgate and Goldrush Stealth Mass Mailer. It's a bulk email loader and an email software program. If you're interested in electronic marketing, you should know about these programs. PROGRAM #1: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone can download from CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet. These text files contain classified ads, forum messages, or data from the member directory. Each of these files is filled with email addresses. Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click. You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people or 10,000 people -- the cost is always the same. NOTHING! NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 20,000+ people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some people are always collecting new addresses, but if you publish a newsletter or adsheet, you'll be using the same addresses over and over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've previously collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of 50,000+ in less than a half hour. (To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.) The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut and paste the formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet account, how to create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have to think. It's that simple! FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned upon, and most service providers have rules against it. But, like jay-walking, there is little enforcement. It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the citation (and don't let them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it because it's not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And that's about it. About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list", which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back thanking me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people though, just reply and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three letters to close a sale. The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test and rewrite. Then, once you've got it, just push a few buttons, and open the floodgates!!! THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 17+ FILE FORMATS 1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running a classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any single ad category. This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every day and they're already in business. 2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15 minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales. 3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of forum messages in a matter of minutes. 4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good targeted lists. 5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of forum messages. More targeted lists. 6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send your marketing letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's of addresses per hour. 7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all member directories. Build huge targeted lists. 8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000 email addresses an hour. 9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for people based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can easily generate 5,000 addresses. 10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member directories. 11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses in the CIM file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your marketing letter to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard drive. 12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what you need. Just enter a key word to search for. 13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build targeted lists here. Each search can easily bring you 500+ addresses. 14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a lot of addresses very quickly from Genie. 15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge files and do selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that you might purchase. Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could include only email addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all noc, root, and other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are fully configurable and can be used together. BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you download from the same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new people. Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and prepare a mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to the Master File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows. You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new marketing campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on your Master List. If you write a newsletter, each time you send your newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a Master List. THE REMOVE LIST Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you will be operating your business with the most professionalism possible. DON'T BE FOOLED We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER....... **Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release. **Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation. **Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee. **Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use. **There is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far, the BEST technical support. SOME QUICK MATH Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few keystrokes away. Let's do the math: - Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours) - Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale. - Let's also say you only get a 1% response(occasionally higher). * That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters would do for your business !! WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE? You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it on-line. EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The SUPPLIED MANUAL tells you where to go, what to do, and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned with a little practice or help from our computer savvy technicians. PROGRAM #2: GOLDRUSH STEALTH MASS MAILER Do not get this program confused with other slow speed programs that call themselves "STEALTH". This program is the only one in the world that can send email out at HIGH SPEEDS with one single connection to the internet. This is NEW, Cutting Edge Email Technology. First Of It's Kind.. The Most Powerful BULK EMAIL SENDER In The World.. NOTHING CAN EVEN COME CLOSE! 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We are doing this because of the extreme power that these programs offer. ***SPECIAL BONUS #2*** When you receive your two programs, you will also receive: OVER 250 REPRINT AND RESELL RIGHTS REPORTS YOU CAN START TO MARKET AND MAKE MONEY IMMEDIATELY!!! These HOT sellers include: 1) How to Get a Top Rating in the Search Engines 2) 70 Money Making Reports 3) 75 MONEY MAKING PLANS & TRADE SECRETS and MUCH MUCH MORE!!! ($200 RETAIL VALUE - FREE!!!) ***SPECIAL BONUS #3*** With your two software programs, you will also receive our NEW "Address Grabber" utility program that enables you to grab 100's of THOUSANDS of email addresses from newsgroups in minutes ($100 RETAIL VALUE - FREE). ***SPECIAL BONUS #4*** RECEIVE CHECKS BY EMAIL, PHONE OR FAX MACHINE. With this software program, you can receive payment for your product or service INSTANTLY!! There is no more waiting for your customers chec to arrive. This software will no doubt, add to your sales, for customers who don't have credit cards, as well as the impulse buyers. With this software, you can print up your payments as soon as your customer gives you his/her checking information. You will then add the information given, to the proper blank check spaces, then just print and go to the bank!! *************************************************** To get your FREE demo and "test drive" our state-of-the-art software, visit our web site at: http://www.t-1net.com/floodgate **************************************************** HURRY ... RESERVE YOURS TODAY! So, if you are interested in taking advantage of the most powerful bulk email software in the world and start making money hand over fist..... Print out the EZ ORDER form below and FAX or MAIL it to our office. If you have any questions don't hesitate to call us at: 1-954-784-0312 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS 386 or larger Windows 95 OR Windows 3.1 with 8 meg ram Extra 5 MB hard drive space Floodgate & Goldrush can be run on a fast Mac with 24 MB RAM and SoftWindows. NOTES FROM SATISFIED USERS "It is everything you said it was. Within one week of my first mailing, I received a record number of orders. All you need to print money is a decent sales letter. Thanks." Randy albertson, Wolverine Capital. "After using Floodgate and your utility program all day today, let me say these are as two of the finest programs I have ever bought in my 52 years! Your support has been superb. Thank You!" Vernon Hale, Prime Data Systems "My first day and I just used Floodgate and Pegasus to send 1,469 sales letters. So far I've got about 25 positive responses. It works GREAT!!! Thanks." Donald Prior "Floodgate is awesome!. I recently started a new business on-line. I stripped the addresses of the AOL & CIS classifieds. I sent out 3,497 email letters and got over 400 people to join my company in 5 days! Needless to say, it pays for itself." David Sheeham, OMPD "I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet news groups. It works perfectly. Needless to say, I am very excited about the use of this new technology." Mark Eberra, Inside Connections "This is a great piece of software and an invaluable marketing tool." Joe Kuhn, The Millennium Group "I just thought you'd like to know that this program is fantastic. After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first hour of using this, I collected 6,092 email addresses!" Richard Kahn, LD Communications "I just love the Floodgate program. It saves me hours and hours of time. This is the beginning of a wonderful FUN time marketing on-line. Thank you so much for writing this program." Beth O'Neill, Eudora, KS "Your software is brilliant, and from the technical support I've received, I can see you have a genuine love and respect of people...Floodgate is a divine package. Wish I had found it sooner." Tom Sanders, Peoria, IL "I really like the way the Floodgate software package works. It is very easy to use, and really does the trick. It has already saved me an incredible amount of time and energy." John Berning, Jr., Fairfield, NJ "It's going great with FLOODGATE! I like using Delphi. I just collected 50,000+ addresses within 20 minutes on-line." Richard Kahn, R&B Associates ------------------------------------------------- E-Z ORDER FORM: Please print out this order form and fill in the blanks...... Please send order form and check or money order, payable to: Dave Mustachi P.O. Box 772261 Coral Springs, FL 33077-2261 (954) 784-0312 ______Yes! I would like to try your cutting-edge software so that I can advertise my business to thousands of people on-line whenever I like! I understand that I have 10 days to trial the software. If I am not fully delighted, I will cheerfully be refunded the purchase price, no questions asked! Please rush me the FLOODGATE and GOLDRUSH package now! ______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive the FLOODGATE and GOLDRUSH package at a substantial discount! I am ordering BOTH software packages for only $349.95. (Save $150 off the retail price....Software has sold for as much as $2,499.95) ______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive UNLIMITED technical support for 30 days. ______I want to receive the package OVERNIGHT. I'm including $18.00 for shipping charges. ______I want to receive the package 2nd DAY. 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(CHECKS: ALLOW 1 WEEK FOR BANK CLEARANCE) YOUR NAME_________________________________________________ COMPANY NAME_________________________________________________ YOUR POSITION_____________________________________________ STREET ADDRESS______________________________________________ CITY, STATE, ZIP____________________________________________ PHONE NUMBERS_______________________________________________ FAX NUMBERS_________________________________________________ EMAIL ADDRESSES_____________________________________________ ************************************************************ We accept Checks, Money Orders, MasterCard, Visa, American Express. 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Box 772261 Coral Springs, FL 33077 (954) 784-0312 *************************************************** OR: PLEASE PASTE YOUR CHECK HERE (If you fax a check, there is no need for you to send the original check by mail. We will draft up a new check, with the exact information from your original check that you faxed to us) Please fax the above order form and check to: 1-954-572-58

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Creative Justice?... [CNN] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Fri Jan 2 20:33:21 1998 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199801030233.UAA16279(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Creative Justice?... [CNN] To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:33:15 -0600 (CST) Cc: friends(a)ssz.com (Ravage's Friends) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2327 Forwarded message: > DRUNKEN DRIVER ORDERED CLOSER TO LIQUOR STORE > > graphic January 2, 1998 > Web posted at: 8:39 p.m. EST (0139 GMT) > > CINCINNATI (Reuters) -- An Ohio judge has ordered a chronic drunken > driver to move within easy walking distance of a liquor store or > face jail. > > In a sentence meted out on New Year's Eve, Hillsboro Municipal Judge > James Hapner ordered Dennis Cayse to move within "easy walking > distance" -- defined as one-half mile or less -- of a liquor store > within 30 days or face a potential 1-1/2-year jail sentence for > drunken driving. > > It was Cayse's 18th conviction for drunken driving. He was also > sentenced to spend the first week of each of the next five years in > jail. > > The judge also directed that Cayse, who lost his license years ago > but continued to drink and drive, be handcuffed to the > passenger-side door or be seated with someone between him and the > driver anytime he travels. > > University of Cincinnati law professor Christo Lassiter said the > multiple sentence passed constitutional muster. > > "It appears to me that this sentence is neither unconstitutional nor > inappropriate," Lassiter told Reuters Friday. "It looks to me like > the judge felt that there was nothing he could do to keep the man > off the road except to make him move to where he could walk to buy > his booze." > > Hillsboro is a town of 6,000 just east of Cincinnati. > > "For as long as I have been associated with law enforcement, I have > never heard of such an unusual sentence. It's very squirrelly," said > Lt. Ronald Ward of the Highland County sheriff's office. > > "I have known Dennis Cayse a long time and I've never seen him sober > except when he was in jail," Ward said. "His lifetime record shows > that if he is not in jail, he's going to drink and drive." > > A spokeswoman for Mothers Against Drunk Driving denounced the > sentence, saying it was too lenient and sends the wrong public > message. > > Copyright 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

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Re: Remailer Logs (and Accountability)
by Charlie Comsec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- usura(a)sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote: > : I suspect that if you polled remailer operators you'd find that some > : keep logs and some don't. I don't know about the Replay remailer. Perhaps > : Alex DeJoode (the operator of the Replay remailer) would care to comment. Nor > : can logs necessarily positively identify you. If kept, they would record when > : your message came in and when the post to usenet went out, but *PROBABLY* > : would not establish a conclusive link between the two. Many remailers > : maintain a "reordering pool" where forwarded messages do not necessarily get > : sent out in the order they were received. > > I donnot keep sendmaillogs, I donnot keep remailerlogs and I let > usenet do my mail2newslogging ... (They can ofcourse always supena > /dev/null, and then they get everything ..) Good. No reason to tempt the Big Brother types (and wannabes). BTW, people outside the remailer operator and user community seem to assume that logs ARE kept. I'm curious to know how often individuals, organizations, and maybe even governments make requests for your logs. Oh ... also, if you don't mind, can you uuencode your /dev/null and send it to me? <g> > The "reordering pool" is > always a minimum of 5 messages so people can opt for how long their > message wil be 'stashed' at replay. (use 'Latency: +00:00' for zero latecy). Is that default reordering pool size the same for Type I and Type II messages? Perhaps someone can double-check my math on this. Assuming equally-sized messages that are otherwise indistinguishable, and a reordering pool size of five, then the odds of matching up an encrypted incoming message with an encrypted outgoing message are one in five. Thus a message chained through n remailers (each having a reordering pool size of 5) would be diffused among 5^n possible messages to thwart potential traffic analysis. What I'm unclear on is how setting a Latency: flag affects the diffusion of the output. Is that lattency IN ADDITION to the pool size of five, or does Latency: +00:00 bypass the reordering process altogether? My main concern is the security of chained reply blocks which are more vulnerable to attack than normal anonymous messages. A single anonymous message can only be traced BACKWARDS after it's been received. An anonymous reply, OTOH, could, theoretically, be "walked" through each remailer in the chain until the identity of the recipient was discovered. While that process would require convincing each remailer operator in the chain to cooperate, it's a lot more feasible than tracing a message backwards to its source. (Yes, I know about posting to a public message pool, such as a.a.m, but NG posting seems to be rather unreliable lately.) - ---- Finger <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> for PGP public key (Key ID=19BE8B0D) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNK2wqwbp0h8ZvosNAQFcpwf9GzP5jGSURrVZXu3omQXx9+de1aOHZ+Uk azgpHRZwStL86ztv1U5RcO7TRQ7gNgEd0+8V+z/wJei82f5zsQPCWVITjHBnUBKL sbGEFTtlkLfehXgF6oRk4xYzngxekYYFXm3UqZFKf/maQvMCRXbXSfTpb0CejpfQ 01PQGmXrShjdiYO8Uj+UoXzEEyAU383ssnJmsDBbnMvilM3aE5f0GXG/dx3QSvQi CfRzPFpcgfM4kojv8CxH5xfCvCWzKNgi8lnGuMjNwYApuGrYVtJSReq+OcAe9GeQ O2e+R9emHWiZHO16asfjnx6Eie7BylGrBRCLPWAAxPo16AtGjhJimw== =HRSR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Get into the pay per call industry for FREE
by cash4u＠polbox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Microsoft
by nobody＠nsm.htp.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:25 98/01/04 +0100, Anonymous wrote: > Windows is still fucking me up the ass! I'm bleeding to death here! > > > For relief, see: http://www.enemy.org/

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The Codeleakers
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.mercury-rising.com/ Mercury Rising Art Jeffries (Bruce Willis), a disillusioned, outcast FBI agent, is the only one who can protect an orphaned nine-year-old autistic savant (Miko Hughes) when he becomes the target of assassins after inadvertently deciphering a top-secret government military code. Lt. Colonel Nicholas Kudrow (Alec Baldwin) is the National Security agent assigned to unveil the source of the code's leak. Preview 5fps - 4.9MB / 10fps - 8.1MB The film opens April 3, 1998. Website Coming Soon!

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Re: Location Escrow anyone ?
by Kay Ping 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>ZURICH (December 28, 1997 4:12 p.m. EST http://www.nando.net) - Swiss >>police have secretly tracked the whereabouts of mobile phone users via a >>telephone company computer that records billions of movements going back >>more than half a year, a Sunday newspaper reported. > >Don't be fooled that this is a swiss only problem. It's being done here in >Amerika right now. The FCC has issued a ruling that will require all cellular telephone carriers to provide location information on all 911 calls. By the year 2001, this location information is to provide 125 metres of accuracy 67% of the time. Helping emergency services locate 911 callers is a great excuse for installing a cellular location system. Even better than the excuses they gave for eavesdropping-ready digital switches and limits on encryption. An accuracy of 125 meters seems quite impressive considering the facts that cellular channels are plagued by very long multipath dispersion and that a narrowband FM signal is much less than ideal for calculating delay. - -------------- Kay Ping nop 'til you drop -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: cp850 iQEQAwUBNK4a2hHPAso8Qp7tAQFI1wfRARzxzUTRWkuETjkWrz7Gh4StMEwhCZ6C Nzh2i2ymTq2/hMMdx7L8tuc2N5wISlBjzJtJGKnyQTHYJs6SMkvYLQa89H4v4MyH 9NJK6wSqx1OLEmgPwCoJWo8NUkH1jwPvhRfb+A/KE3raYazMd1fY+EgL/P3R216s j0F0RsPUFvMS3m+/j5rKFoatuG1Qc6b2p8QnQLxgxyePoEScEEcfxiCrGGH75YEF 5yiJMi11LraUnDyJtZ/9xVXAFAEjLM9IYyCapfleIEUNisu9Iu3R9V/FIBdEom3O uL7we6ETWSrYCFxdmrDq64q7wi1ygN/d1IvIFgNzSol/D9Y= =czyT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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