December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: will the real Irving J. Schlublutz please stand up? was: Senator Leahy's Public Key
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C'punks, >On Thu, 9 May 1996, Timothy C. May wrote: >i think a related point is one we all know well, that being if there is a >will, there is a way.. we've seen it with phoney physicians and >specialists, even, with certificates and physicians' licenses.. if someone >wants to intercept corespondence and impersonate another person, it is >easy enough if that person has the time and impetus.. When I was a teenager I read /The Great Impostor/, the autobiography of Fred Demara(sp?). It was an eye-opener. Demara posed as all sorts of people. He didn't read any books on the subject of identity, he just invented his own techniques. Because he was always learning, he was always getting caught. Each failure, however, just made his next effort that much better. Read it if you can find it; it's facinating. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Remailer in a box
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been able to locate the following on the Web in regards to fax and voicemail to Internet. The first is the one you were thinking of; the third was mailed to me by a helpful individual (thanks). http://www.faxweb.net/ Allows 1/4 size web page looking, then download full via special software for Windows. Not sure why demands special software to do the web page - should be able to download normally then auto-delete (or charge more for memory space usage). Email used for notification. Requires a credit card. http://www.jfax.net/ Emails you with a compressed file containing the fax. JFAX software for Windows or Mac used to decompress it. Requires a credit card. http://www.vix.com/hylafax/ Software to enable fax reception and translation either into PostScript or TIFF/S (sp?). This may be the most practical for anonymous use; can TIFF/S and Postscript be easily translated into a jpg or gif file? Those are the easiest viewers to locate. -Allen

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Re: PGP, Inc.
by timd＠consensus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:48 PM 5/10/96, Dan Weinstein wrote: >On Fri, 10 May 1996 10:22:24 -0700, timd(a)consensus.com wrote: >> >>The only effort they make is that when using the email-based CA, it mails >>the certificate to the address within, so it's not trivial to get a cert >>for an address that you don't have access to. (I'm not saying it's >>impossible, or even hard, just that it requires some skill and effort). > >I don't believe this is correct. They send you information after you >have created the cert verifying that you set it up, but nothing >requires a response and the key is transfered via http. If you'll examine my message, you'll see I was referring to the email-based S/MIME class 1 CA. Best, - Tim Dierks Tim Dierks -- timd(a)consensus.com -- www.consensus.com Head of Thing-u-ma-jig Engineering, Consensus Development

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Re: Dear friends,
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 AM 5/10/96 +0800, MOHAMED HABIB MOHAMED EUSOFF wrote: >I am searching for NETWORK SECURITY white paper, documents and hacking >uitlities. Maybe you guys/gals can >shed some light on this. Wietse Venema and Dan farmer recomended RFC1244 in their Security Auditing and Risk Analysis class. Available from ftp:ftp://munnari.oz.au/rfc/rfc1244.Z ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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cr> ACLU v. RENO: Trial Update 5/10/96
by Craig A. Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This just in from the ACLU! I was in Philly today folks, and I can tell you, the update below is an understatement; it was a rout! The ACLU and the ALA, with ample help from the judges and Government counsel, literally pulled the legs off the Government case! I'll be posting my own version on this by Monday. Suddenly, there is a new light in cyberspace! Craig @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ACLU V. RENO: TRIAL UPDATE AT CLOSING ARGUMENTS, ACLU CALLS ON COURT TO PROTECT FREE SPEECH IN CYBERSPACE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Emily Whitfield Friday, May 10, 1996 212-944 -9800, x426 emilyaclu(a)aol.com PHILADELPHIA-- A three-judge panel heard closing arguments today regarding a law that would criminalize free speech in cyberspace. Plaintiffs and defendants each had approximately two hours to make their case and answer questions from the judges. Much of the government's argument today hinged on a proposal requiring Internet users to identify so-called indecent or patently offensive words or images with an electronic"tag." But by the end of the day, government lawyers conceded -- under pointed questioning from the judges -- that it would be impossible to implement this scheme given the technology currently available. That concession alone, the ACLU said, could justify granting plaintiff's motion for a preliminary injunction against the censorship provisions of the Communications Decency Act, which criminalizes making available to minors "indecent" or "patently offensive" speech online. "It's about time that the government conceded what the cyberspace community has known all along -- that this is an unworkable law," said Christopher Hansen, who presented oral arguments for the ACLU. "And even if it were feasible, it is constitutionally unthinkable to give the government the power to restrict valuable speech, or to compel people to pejoratively label their speech." Government lawyers also acknowledged today that the law criminalizes speech of value -- e.g., artistic, literary or medical information -- not just "pornography" or other prurient words or images that aren't covered under existing obscenity laws. In fact, as Hansen pointed out to the Court, Congress made sure that the Communications Decency Act applied specifically to libraries and educational institutions, and rejected several opportunities to make any exceptions for valuable speech. Such an omission might have been a "legislative craftsmanship problem," suggested Anthony Coppolino, one of the lawyers appearing for the Department of Justice. But that argument was met with skepticism from the judges. "The government is basically saying eetrust me' when it comes to determining what kind of online words and images will be considered eeindecent' or eepatently offensive,'" said Marjorie Heins, a lawyer on the ACLU v. Reno team. "But they were not able to offer a coherent explanation as to what those terms mean." The risk involved to individuals in making such a determination is especially grave when criminal penalties are involved, the ACLU emphasized. The CDA provides for penalties of up to two years in jail and $250,000 in fines. Addressing this issue, Judge Stewart Dalzell asked the government how it would view an individual such as ACLU plaintiff Kiyoshi Kuromiya, who has vowed to maintain his website no matter what. Kuromiya has testified that his website, the Critical Path AIDS Project, provides "lifesaving" information on safer sex practices -- some of it necessary sexually explicit -- aimed at reaching teens around the world. Justice Department lawyer Jason Baron responded that if Mr. Kuromiya didn't want to comply, "he can take the consequences." Overall, the ACLU said, plaintiffs succeeded in making three essential points to the court: -- The Communications Decency Act is a criminal statute with criminal penalties. -- The law is aimed specifically at speech that is constitutionally protected. -- The government's tagging scheme would force every American to censor him/herself to avoid risk of criminal prosecution. Plaintiffs also reminded the Court that the censorship law applies not only to websites, but to newsgroups, chat rooms, mail exploders, and other fora that constitute a vital part of the Internet. The ACLU has asserted in its brief -- and the government largely conceded today -- that various schemes for self-censorship would be unworkable in these environments as well. At the conclusion of today's proceedings, Chief Judge Dolores K. Sloviter said that the Court would issue a ruling "in due course." Under expedited provisions, any appeal on rulings regarding the new censorship law will be made directly to the U.S. Supreme Court. ACLU v. Reno, which was filed the day the Communications Decency Act was signed into law, was consolidated on February 26 with a second case brought by the American Library Association and 26 co-plaintiffs, known as the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition. Lawyers for the ACLU appearing before the judges are Christopher Hansen, Marjorie Heins, Ann Beeson, and Stefan Presser, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania. Attorney Bruce J. Ennis presented oral arguments today on behalf of the ALA/CIEC coalition. -end- @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~ CYBER-RIGHTS ~ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Visit The Cyber-Rights Library, accessible via FTP or WWW at: ftp://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/Library/ http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/Library/ You are encouraged to forward and cross-post list traffic, pursuant to any contained copyright & redistribution restrictions. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Re: PGP, Inc.
by Dan Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10 May 96 at 18:12, you wrote: > At 5:48 PM 5/10/96, Dan Weinstein wrote: > >On Fri, 10 May 1996 10:22:24 -0700, timd(a)consensus.com wrote: > >> > >>The only effort they make is that when using the email-based CA, > >>it mails the certificate to the address within, so it's not > >>trivial to get a cert for an address that you don't have access > >>to. (I'm not saying it's impossible, or even hard, just that it > >>requires some skill and effort). > > > >I don't believe this is correct. They send you information after > >you have created the cert verifying that you set it up, but nothing > >requires a response and the key is transfered via http. > > If you'll examine my message, you'll see I was referring to the > email-based S/MIME class 1 CA. > > Best, > - Tim Dierks > > Tim Dierks -- timd(a)consensus.com -- www.consensus.com > Head of Thing-u-ma-jig Engineering, Consensus Development Oops, sorry about that. Dan Weinstein djw(a)vplus.com http://www.vplus.com/~djw PGP public key is available from my Home Page. All opinions expressed above are mine. "I understand by 'freedom of Spirit' something quite definite - the unconditional will to say No, where it is dangerous to say No. Friedrich Nietzsche

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Reminder/details on May 11th SF Bay Area Meeting
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tomorrow, noon, Tresidder patio at Stanford. If you have the bandwidth, you can get a DETAILED look at EXACTLY where we'll sit through http://www-tour.stanford.edu:1081/cgi-bin/campus-click.prl/jmtl Tresidder is at B4; a closeup picture of the benches where we'll sit is at http://www-tour.stanford.edu:1081/cgi-bin/ctour.prl/00075.10/jmtl Different versions of the JPEGs are appropriate for monitors with different gamma settings. (Why yes, as a matter of fact, we *did* have far too much time on our hands.) If people are really nice, we might sneak into my office for Ethernet connectivity and presentation hardware. I suppose it's probably too late to offer to drive people from the PA CalTrain station to campus, but you could page me. If you were counting on the shuttle, sorry, it doesn't run tomorrow. It's about a 25-minute walk. There will also be a "Spring Faire" and a "Powwow" on campus this weekend, so count on a little traffic. Nowhere near as bad as a football game, mind you. Hugh Daniel wrote: >For dinner I will suggest 'Thai City', about a 2 kilometers >south of Page Mill at 4329 El Camino Real. It is on the >Peninsula East side of the road, white building with a purple >stripe around it and some {}`s (really). +1 415 493 0643 Thai City is excellent (and cheap). -rich

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Re: Mandatory Voluntary Self-Ratings
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I see it as an author provided a value added service to his content >same as anyone else. In fact, 3rd party services may have problems with large and dynamic WEB sites (in which case they just might rate it high, and rate the whole directory.) (I was thinking about this with regards to incorporating rating systems into WEB site managements tools and apps...) If MICS and signatures do become prevalent, an easy way I can defeat ratings I don't like (or to keep from others rating me) is to repeatedly change my content in some simple way, throwing off their MICS. _______________________ Regards, Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can moderate their desires more than their words. -Spinoza Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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Re: will the real Irving J. Schlublutz please stand up? was: Senator Leahy'sPublic Key
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:58 PM 5/10/96, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SANDY SANDFORT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >C'punks, > >>On Thu, 9 May 1996, Timothy C. May wrote: > >>i think a related point is one we all know well, that being if there is a >>will, there is a way.. we've seen it with phoney physicians and >>specialists, even, with certificates and physicians' licenses.. if someone >>wants to intercept corespondence and impersonate another person, it is >>easy enough if that person has the time and impetus.. Actually, neither I nor Irving J. Schlublutz wrote this. (Careful reading of the ">" marks makes this clear, but not all readers take the time to do this, and the "Timothy C. May wrote" is misleading.) --Tim Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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RE: self-ratings vs. market ratings
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Vladimir Z. Nuri (just when I thought it was over): ".......PICS is a very flexible architecture and I hope it will be "used in many ingenious ways not previously foreseen." Guess so. . How long do "cool sites" stay "hot"? . How long would web pages rated "sexual content" keep that rating? . Many sites are casually rated as "cool" for the fun of it. . Why are controversial pages rated? . What motivated Yahoo to begin featuring Top 5 Sites of the Week? . What motivates those who are calling for mandatory rating? "but in a sense, this is what you do whenever you read a book or a newspaper. you are reading information screened by someone else." You could say that *all* communication is a rating, then. All evaluations are ratings (as are all emotions, and all modifying terms in grammar. Art is a rating on life, as love is a rating on others). But an individual must decide how much screening they can tolerate before they become useless to themselves (or: *whose* rating is important?) Many things help us to make judgements, to aid us in arriving at conclusions. Ratings present the conclusion itself: rather than assisting, by reasoning and discussion (or argument) in the development of judgement, they present a final evaluation. They leave out the middle, where the work of thought takes place. "ratings are not a substitute for personal judgement. they are meant to be a method to aid thinking, not to replace it, imho." They can do that, in a very reduced, limited way. I myself think that even short descriptions are more informative and useful. You can reduce communication to such constricted labels that it loses all meaning. Or as Beavis n Butthead would posit: uh - uh; uh - uh (hee-hee. It just occurred to me how dogs mark their territory. You could call *that* a rating, too. THIS site is MINE, honey!!) .. Blanc

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[Fwd: Re: PGP, Inc.]
by Jeff Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I meant to send this along to the list as well as Raph. --Jeff -- Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist Netscape Communication Corporation jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw Any opinions expressed above are mine. To: Raph Levien <raph(a)cs.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: PGP, Inc. From: Jeff Weinstein <jsw(a)netscape.com> Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 02:07:40 -0700 Organization: Netscape Communications Corp. References: <v02140b03adb92b2dbc65(a)[205.149.165.24]> <3193E226.575E651C(a)cs.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: jsw(a)netscape.com Raph Levien wrote: > > Tim Dierks wrote: > > > > The only effort they make is that when using the email-based CA, it mails > > the certificate to the address within, so it's not trivial to get a cert > > for an address that you don't have access to. (I'm not saying it's > > impossible, or even hard, just that it requires some skill and effort). > > For example, see http://www.digicrime.com/id.html . I believe they got > these certificates using the Web, rather than e-mail. > > I think with e-mail, you'd actually have to be running a packet sniffer > or doing an active attack such as DNS spoofing. However, the Web is > much, much more convenient. > > In any case, the page I referenced above is worthwhile reading. It is certainly possible to put e-mail 'into the loop' when issuing certs via the web. With Netscape Navigator 3.0 there is no requirement that the cert be issued immediately when requested. I expect that some cert vendors who are issuing low assurance certs will e-mail the requestor a password that they can use to retrieve their cert. This at least provides some(not total) assurance that the requestor can receive e-mail at the address in the cert. --Jeff -- Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist Netscape Communication Corporation jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw Any opinions expressed above are mine.

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Anonymous User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Black Unicorn wrote: >In this case the people paying the offshore company for Mr. May's services >are also subject to reporting requirements and a 30% withholding tax for >which they will be held liable. Nobody pays offshore for Mr. May. They pay a domestic corporation for his services. The corporation pays Mr. May a sufficient taxable salary for his domestic expenses. Anything above that (i.e. money that Mr. May don't need right now) is paid to the offshore entity as (for instance) deductible license fees. The payment should probably go to a jurisdiction with a double taxation agreement with the US, like Holland or Ireland. In Ireland it's easy to setup a tax free corporation that sends all it's income to an offshore trust, where the money stays until Mr. May needs them. >This adds the requirement that the individuals or corporations receiving >Mr. May's service be involved in this conspiracy. If they could have >been, why do you need the offshore connection? Why not just conspire with >them to pay Mr. May in cash and not report it? They just deal with the vice president of a typical domestic consulting corporation. That the CEO of the company is an alcoholic living on a park bench (for the ultra cheep setup) is nobody's business. He's on permanent vacation for all they care. >If your above scheme is intended merely to conceal funds it is a fairly >poor example as it depends on the secrecy of each and every 'employee' of >the company. Only one individual and he's too drunk to remember anything. >Continue your participation in such a plan. I will send you cigs. Thanks, but I can afford Cuban cigars. I'm selling setup's like the above for a very nice fee. And this is the kiddie version of serious tax planning. After all, Mr.May would still pay taxes on his domestic spending. X -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEUAwUBMZJGdFtwWVJrMFYlAQFcAgf2JtuGoc+NE+rl+ZJV5B8PBg2N+u8gpRvt biX+y3asBIkynniRRga9kS00601AHgRQlEkH46BY179PhUNdVV+Q4cv3h4TQ3azl dENuanxLE1xJZnROfkbxNDyg71yogaUGC8dMlQs2vRZ31OdlPnz5E0WafPX4TDNy jI6FZsdYQeqLcFH6xzDS15pLAvh9NXAklzHBGLafuzzDQaVBO9GHRf/MCU5FzXJE KosQ3P2n/qb73kbFOxu7mebR3Emf3sAYRfmlqpe8bHM47Sy34hbPutvzMMIrrF+t dPQHbHDWGgaoEQ6mDhOdqmlZSjdObNmMcll4snoaiU02HsYNo0rc =+nH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Penet-style web remailer?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:17 PM 5/8/96 EDT, "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH(a)ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> wrote: > As a result of scanning through the Nando Times' > (http://www.nando.net/nt/) Infotech section, I came across a piece on email > with the following address: http://noah.pair.com/anon.html. It appears to > be sort of a penet-style anonymous remailer, only without return messages. > Anyone know anything else about it? Of course, given the number of web > interfaces to fully anonymous remailers, I wouldn't encourage anyone > to use it. Well, if you look at the remailer part of the web page, it's just one of many web pages that are a form interface to a remailer CGI program. Basically a friendly way to use a standard 1-way Cypherpunks remailer. The guts of the page (from View Source) are use replay's CGI and the ecafe remailer: <form method="post" action="http://www.replay.com/cgi-bin/anon.exe"> <input type="hidden" name="remailers" value="cpunk(a)remail.ecafe.org"> <table border=2> <tr><td align=right> to: <input size=20 type=text name="to" value=""><br> subject: <input size=20 type=text name="subject" value=""></td> <td align=center><input type="submit" value="send mail"></td></tr> <tr><td align=center colspan=2> <textarea name="message" rows=12 cols=70 value="test"> Put your message here.</textarea> </td> </tr> </table> </form> There is an amusing stealthed message at the bottom of the page, designed to attract high relevancy ratings from spiders..... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: Penet-style web remailer?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> http://noah.pair.com/anon.html. Oh, forgot to add that it's also got a mailto: for anon(a)noah.pair.com, so it is running its own remailer as well as pointing to another remailer's CGI. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Re: Remailer in a box
by Matts Kallioniemi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 17:39 1996-05-10 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >Yes, for the cryptographic purposes. It doesn't make much difference >on the juristictional end of things - I'd need to locate a UNIX account >in another country for that. Hmm... possible. > -Allen Anybody who want's an anonymous shell account in Sweden, send me MTB ecash and I'll get an account opened for you with a local ISP. Sweden has the best Internet access outside North America. A 34 Mbps line to the US, soon to be upgraded to 155 Mbps! Matts - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQENAzEfDgAAAAEIAOSUUb2IOrKOOVhkoagTe4Feo14Ltmyo8ihpkmkUUE62Ydb5 La6Q6HRj6X51fFWIPp+1IM+GNTbb/OmZOo2vhseYbofJBZB+TwasX0HU5EyzJIGS 2R/T7DSzcv+XbLdwfLXBeAQomt3ETKIN9dCkUy9oMiHhvNbgLG6KLvzE5QP8O4Re /QnIxoWX/k9EpJjR21K4EUncBahWzqL6oWKLKf4GyrA7NMQoaWazvfPIkGyhP8v2 qPIBbePcYD0COd8vHLvw45rv3hjRc1b/l4kcZ4ZMiLDfLkd3tHqbYrJA3grAQeiS LZ+y/O2X04/zrLO5ieExfjyL6zDUFUWFZTKJRBEABRG0H01hdHRzIEthbGxpb25p ZW1pIDxtYXR0c0BwaS5zZT6JARUDBRAxHw5YFUWFZTKJRBEBAQSpB/9rzmQ96pFD 6wYUMOsOBO+3SxZzk2mYA0AGcmpy9nd8fij70Vfvx2na/oslH2V/KEXlLXJz7EZm WdVkDub+JMQsBODK50rD5KTZ6vmLzAXuTzJM9SKUsPBAJxul2f287SP2kI2T/LS9 iTkuWdZjPLKAZJ/ga4+M31m3eNiJeBTcris0ET51qMt+blzipu6y1LvhOj80IInh bZLge+YBHAzVaK8NdbD3OWlnVat57ImPiBsfeJ0Y6v6YC3YepbyQZDGb1/Gi+do2 OIWr3OfYyVwzzcDclZ/tme7+2h2u1CHDBJNcOcOdk9fwX/4tdUIXnV60g0dM49MN h54S0VAVF9K1 =O083 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMZRwuhVFhWUyiUQRAQFZvQgAyVhiQ+rDLsaR82GnhJL0MT+imIdJJYmw MDrKFQ3ddMSFqqskIF+ZHwnVmNPek2b/f17gnamTWE5qxxHWszUA5AeA0q1Jz8dm HeMp3j1rbLvBFdUoZImK+YhNCjUcregc3Ud0rBunYrRDIsrkdHbWuGjcQkIr3V56 9LFC9xyJ6WYrn8/DvcArSbYlU6btrq8oaE29AxcWyw3ehrV4+TMKBOEHjUkssnzW Qptx/+daXOwB1qml86jDThL7VdvM6EiMr+DmyGKnZGsms2FsOhnBGlYq1fOS9XnA ik2+yLmH59O+wDtXEsuOd4NR8Ufmg38AvRAbULdP9XA2jiBmH6VODg== =ADJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: distinctive properties of ecash, netbill, cybercash and iKP
by Jüri Kaljundi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sat, 11 May 1996, Jon Moore wrote: > Bert-Jan said: > > >=B7 Monetary value: it must be backed by either cash (currency), bank > >authorized credit, or a bank-certified cashier's check, so that it is > >easily accepted by others. > > The banks/cash-issuing corporations are likely to support anything > that is secure enough, and looks like a runner, because any e-money > scheme is profitable to them (they earn interest on the > corresponding real cash while the e-money is in circulation). This is one question why the central bank in Estonia (I am not sure about other countries) does not allow issuing e-cash here in Estonia. While the banks issue e-cash to people, they get some real cash from people. This leads to actually doubleing the money in circulation, each monetary unit, either dollar or kroon, can at the same time be used by owner of e-cash and at the same time by the bank. The central banks are afraid that when the amount of e-cash in circulation gets big, this could lead to devalvation of money, especially a small country like Estonia is afraid of such development. Anonymity of monetary transactions is another thing that Bank of Estonia has declared illegal. Juri Kaljundi jk(a)stallion.ee AS Stallion

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Re: Hacktic remailer shutdown
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-rich sez: : > Is there any information available on why the Hacktic remailer was shut : > down? : Church of Scientology. Someone posted too many Secret Scriptures, it : seems. The details, nobody has shared. Conspiracy theories, galore, but I : have faith in their judgement and commitment to free speech and anonymity. : I'm sure it was a tough decision. : Btw, I don't believe it has shut down yet. Rather, the operators announced : that due to "recent events," there would be a planned shutdown on May : 20th. : I *would* like to know if the mail2news gateway is going down in addition : to the remailer. I'm assuming that it is. utopia.hacktic.nl is currently MX'ed to basement.replay.com, and the mail2news gateway has been installed there to. mail2news(a)utopia.hacktic.nl will work as long as utopia is MX'ed so one better use the one installed directly by mailing your posts to mail2news(a)basement.replay.com. bEST Regards, -- -AJ-

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The perfect IPO
by Simon Spero 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Secure Fingerprint verification over the World Wide Web in Java. So cutting edge, I haven't even installed powerpoint yet. Simon --- Cause maybe (maybe) | In my mind I'm going to Carolina you're gonna be the one that saves me | - back in Chapel Hill May 16th. And after all | Email address remains unchanged You're my firewall - | ........First in Usenet.........

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need nym-differentiation, perpetual motion, and FTL travel please
by bryce＠digicash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi. I was thinking as I stood in the lunch line talking with Arnaud that what I like about <a href= "http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~wilcoxb/faq/DefnOfPseudonymity"> pseudonymity </a> is the part about being free from the threat of violence. I _don't_ like the part about being able to have multiple identities nearly as much. It would really please me if I could figure out a way to reliably determine that Alicenym is not the same human as Bobnym without compromising the anonymity of the human(s) behind Alicenym and Bobnym. (Since if their anonymity was thus compromisable, they would be susceptible to the threat of violence.) Unfortunately I can't think of a good way to have both pseudonymity and nym-differentiation. I think that it is possible, however. Can anyone suggest a mechanism? Regards, Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMZTal0jbHy8sKZitAQFn0gL+M5h/G1WlI6DMF2ZqQhllx+YDu23HGVdp VJbSd0VuBvqKLtDeJ+css9uZ90nUDcsqT8Dws1xxdU+ejSe2Zh3HYLip3+L3LmWV YDf446Pfswgkgs20HRyPzBs2B8c8JpNm =xJYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Yadda Yadda Heil Dave] Re: Rich is leaving for thetapunks
by Rich Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:04 PM 5/10/96 -0700, you wrote: >If I didn't know him better, I'd have thought that Dave had entirely >missed my sarcasm. Thanks for the laugh, Skippy! LOL. Dave, don't believe what you read on theta.com... ;) >-rich > FUCKING SCIENTOLOGIST* > > * - FUCKING SCIENTOLOGIST is a registered trademark of the Religious > Technology Center You know it. All of you copyright terrorists who keep infringing on RTC's trademarks by using the word Freed*m will pay, too, I can assure you... Rich ______________________________________________________________________ Rich Burroughs richieb(a)teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~richieb See my Blue Ribbon Page at http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/blueribbon New EF zine "cause for alarm" - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/cause

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Alan Horowitz wrote: >Wage earners - people who are the subjects of W-2 forms - are the class of >individuals who can't benefit from offshore maneuvers. Just go to your boss and tell him that you have an offer from a consulting company. You'd be happy to continue working for him until he finds a replacement (which could take decades) for 90% of your old pre-tax salary. You should get a big smile in return. >I believe the entry costs for a reliable offshore structure from a >reliable vendor - ie, one who keeps up with court cases and the Code of >Federal Regulations on a daily basis - is $50-100k. Ok for guys who own >a Dart Inmdustries, but not the unwashed masses. And I believe that you don't need that. Going to a major offshore vendor makes you vulnerable to traffic analysis (most of them can't spell Mixmaster). You can get a better setup for $2999 than you get if you spend $50k. Or do it yourself for $1k. Start by reading everything from Scope (www.britnet.co.uk/scope) The books you find there cover everything you need to know in perfect detail. Thanks to Philip Zimmermann and Lance Cottrell the balance of power between the state and the little guy has changed completely. It's good to see that both of them are going into mass market business. Perhaps they can get some of the billions of dollars they deserve. X -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMZWVpFtwWVJrMFYlAQFZ/wgAkqLlArXuoPS9PwM/Zd1fmEg5ttB7xeid Cmbt+R8Jt53NFITCy1DpbNOTzSdPW4wjSV4HKg6R5TvkcvbxFPA+PzBhzVsgGKdV GFdYNoIMlbAH5xw6A4+8zsPOeqRDo6WOMccteSctUd8sydCgr/5qw5TfU9aqq5Rq tawYii4tJ8Za+SiI8PZj6JtljeHplZduTVYmwtOcanFl4/Gi9Zpu/GKXYga+P4ob rswnh3NDRBHgNDUkn+79lztDGKYoTLhif+Ayem4aFoOjjiIM4QLg61teSw0zxTeH zJ2c623rI/2XaaqFmiXguHIKSNDLKq5obqJ0PhmnTI577Xz8TvzbrQ== =jC/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Mandatory Voluntary Self-Ratings
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:58 PM 5/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >For every proposed "ratings" system that involves value judgments about who >should see something, I can think of examples where a quite opposite view >is held. Yes, but it is possible to have "descriptive" systems. Of course, to make them easy, things are aggregated into groups, and these groupings have a value judgement. But it is possible to have rating systems that don't tell you diddley about who sees it. _______________________ Regards, Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can moderate their desires more than their words. -Spinoza Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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Re: Publicity on PICS
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Whoops... I misread the press release from the ACLU. The judges haven't made such a decision yet, unfortunately. Sorry. -Allen

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Re: self-ratings vs. market ratings
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:04 PM 5/10/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"blancw(a)MICROSOFT.com" "Blanc Weber" 10-MAY-1996 16:21:20.63 > >>The more automated that filtering becomes, so that the viewer (be it an >>adult or a child) requires less and less personal involvement in >>evaluating what is appropriate (or even interesting) for themselves, the >>more weak & piddly (ignorant & psychologically dependent) those people >>could become, falling into the habit of having others - or an automatic >>robocop - I was talking about this with one of the other students giving the presentation on RSACi yesterday at Sloan. I was argueing how vice tends to be associated with radicalism and how it seems to break people out of their exclusive communities... (nevermind, it was a weird complex discussion.) Regardless, I ran a roundtable on a topic similar to this. The problem of information sharing agents evolving into exclusive communities over time. _______________________________________________ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 20:25:20 -0500 To: roundtable(a)rpcp.mit.edu From: "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." <reagle(a)rpcp.mit.edu> Subject: Roundtable 2/21: M. Van Alstyne - COMMUNICATION NETWORKS AND THE RISE OF AN INFORMATION ELITE COMMUNICATION NETWORKS AND THE RISE OF AN INFORMATION ELITE Do Computers Help the Rich Get Richer? Marshall Van Alstyne (MIT Sloan School) CAMBRIDGE ROUNDTABLE Wed, Feb. 21, at 1:00 E40-212 Several researchers have suggested that information resources are not created equal and that information processing capacity is not distributed uniformly. In 1995, for example, only 17% of the adult population in the US and Canada, roughly 35 million people had any form of access to electronic services. But what if access were universal? If each enterprise and individual were granted a digital portal onto a National Information Infrastructure, would equal access to channels mean equal access to information? One unfortunate answer is no. Circumstances exist under which a telecommunications policy of universal access could lead to an increase in the gap between the information "haves" and the "have-nots." Policy needs to provide incentives for information sharing and not just access to channels, otherwise results might be reversed from those originally intended. We present a formal theory of information sharing in groups which shows why the information rich might get richer still, why there might be balkanization of groups on the internet, why different objectives within a group will motivate sharing or shut it down, and why it's not just what you know but whom you know. One of the advantages of the model is that there are several explicit parameters that can be altered to illustrate different effects of different policies. For anyone who is interested, the first draft of the paper is available from URL: http://web.mit.edu/marshall/www/home.html _______________________ Regards, Men govern nothing with more difficulty than their tongues, and can moderate their desires more than their words. -Spinoza Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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Re: Penet-style web remailer?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 11-MAY-1996 06:53:43.98 >Well, if you look at the remailer part of the web page, it's just >one of many web pages that are a form interface to a remailer CGI program. >Basically a friendly way to use a standard 1-way Cypherpunks remailer. Yes... but he does appear to keep track of the log file; he had up the name of someone who allegedly misused it a few days ago. He states: "If this remailer is used for something illegal, it can be traced. Also, if people use it to insult me, I will probably want to look in the logs and find out who it is!" >There is an amusing stealthed message at the bottom of the page, >designed to attract high relevancy ratings from spiders..... Have people never heard of the "keyword" meta header? -Allen

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