December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Answer: Windows Eudora and PGP
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:48 PM 1/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >Run, don't walk, to check out: > > <http://www.panix.com/~jgostl/wpgp> > >Qualcomm's own Eudora support team recommended it, and it works seamlessly. >To use it with Eudora, important point: after installing WPGP, You make it sound so easy. Problem is, installing this thing was clunky. Took me a couple of times to make it even appear to install. >go into >Options|Select Keystrokes and make sure "Use Capture mode" and "Use Select >All" are selected >(and "Use Memorizer" should -not- be selected), At least that seems to work... >< otherwise >you'll get errors about 'no selected text'. That's it; you're up and running. > >Example of using WPGP: After writing your message as usual in Eudora, to >encrypt simply click on WPGP's "Enc" button and then click on the window >containing your message; that's it, very slick. Another example: If you get >a PGP-encrypted email and want to reply, just hit Eudora's Reply as usual >(this will ">"-quote the entire original email as usual including the PGP >block), click on WPGP to "Dec"rypt, and click anywhere on your reply >window... it will pick out the PGP block, decrypt it, inform you about valid >signatures etc., and automatically paste the reply back into your window in >the proper place WITH PLAINTEXT PROPERLY QUOTED, as if you'd got the message >straight in the clear and hit 'Reply'. > >Highly recommended. > >Herb I apreciate your enthusiasm, but it has failed to work a number of times for me. Perhaps you should study your instructions a bit more carefully for errors. After I get to the end of the message on Eudora, I select WPGP and follow your instructions by clicking on the ENC button. At this point, I can't maximize Eudora again to "click on the window containing your message" (as you asked). The system asks me for my password, I type it, but when control is returned to Eudora I see neither a signature nor encryption. Frankly, it appears to me that the biggest threat to our security at this moment are the programs which ostensibly are supposed to protect it. I wish I could be more appreciative.

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Re: Massey, CEO of Compuserve, on Internet
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:30 1/3/96, Tony Iannotti wrote: >On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> CIS always knows where you are dialing in from. Here is the start of a >> typical connection (using the Mac Program NAVIGATOR). >> >> >0001NUH [snip] >> That NUH identifies that I am calling in via a V34 Node in NYC and the T01 >> says I got the first modem on the Rotory. If CIS wanted to restrict access >> via the NYS nodes, that NUH would be an adequate flag to trigger this >> action. > >Wouldn't this require some software routines added to check for this? I >expect the decision to build or buy is what CIS is now weighing. Also, I >would imagine that a German could always call a POP outside the country if >they wanted to pay for it..... (note that I am still not in favor of the >action, but these are probably CIS's considerations.) Yes it would require that the Node be checked in the Software. What I was responding to was a claim that there is no way of telling where I am connecting from (which I disproved). As to calling a non-German Node, that is always an option.

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Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It looks to me as if Microsoft has a way to go on e-mail. Every message I send to the list generates long bounce messages sent back to me. I assume others are getting the same thing. For example, just the latest one, sent from Postmaster <postmaster(a)microsoft.com>: The following recipient(s) could not be reached: Zeke Lucas on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Bruce E. Johnson on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Christopher Carper on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] John Douceur on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Mike Montague on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Etc. Either Microsoft handles undeliverable mail different from most other places, or they don't want employees getting the Cypherpunks list (:-}). I suspect the former. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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I don't proofread...sorry.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:30 PM 1/4/96, Jim Ray wrote: >As to the "English lesson," I feel that proofreading messages to >1200+ people is more important than proofing private e-mail, but >some folks evidently disagree with me. For an example of posts >which I feel are properly proofed, please see Tim's posts. They >aren't perfect English (mine aren't either) but there's evidence >that he takes the time to proofread them. This not only makes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >his posts easier to read, it makes them [IMO] more convincing. >Of course, I usually agree with Tim anyway. [Hi Tim] I'll shut Thanks for the positive comments, but I need to clear the air about this "proofreading" business: I usually don't proofread my posts. I write 'em as fast as I think 'em, then I send 'em! A few of my longer essays I've proofed, reworked, etc., but mostly I just respond by typing directly and then sending. I no longer even use a spelling checker, in fact. This can probably be guessed by some of you, as I sometimes leave out words, which careful proofing would normally catch. I figure that informal communications are tolerant to such informal usages. I also tend to write in a conversational style, so the agonized structuring and restructuring that some writers apparently feel they must go through does not enter in to my own writing. (I'm a relatively fast typist, and am comfortable composing at the keyboard, which not everone is, of course.) One thing I try to scrupulously check are the distribution list and the other message headers, usually because I edit down the distribution list and sometimes to change the thread title to something more closely related to my actual message (as I have done here). --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) said, >Either Microsoft handles undeliverable mail different from most other >places, ... I believe that this is what Mr. Bill called "Eating your own dog food." ;-) Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The NEW(!) e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/ >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (fwd)
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:43 1/4/96 -0600, Jason Rentz wrote: >Previous exchanges deleted... >> >>With a tightly focused beam (light is easy, I don't know about lower >>frequencies), you can prevent interception except by very obvious physical >>devices. (e.g. Someone in a cherry picker truck.) You may be able to >>avoid the need to encrypt the link (and all the paranoia about key >>management, advances in factoring etc. that that implies.) >> >>Bill > >The problem with this comes when you start creating links between much >taller buildings like in San Fran. Any give building over 30 stories might >sway a foot or so at any given time. Combine that with the other building >and you might get a few feet of movement. (movement not including during an >earthquake) :) (1) No single communication technology is appropriate for every problem. (2) A technical fix could include having the receiver send steering orders to the transmitter. This solution would, of course, be a long way from the low tech scavenged lens and 1/2 meter cardboard mailing tube technology I was thinking of. Bill

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AP: Compuserve Will Lift Newsgroup Ban
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Compuserve's original statement from last week is at: http://www.compuserve.com/at/pressbox/newsgrps.html Attached are excerpts from today's AP article. -Declan ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- Columbus, Ohio (AP) -- The on-line service CompuServe says it hopes to reopen access to 200 sexually oriented Internet forums to all but its German customers by the end of the month... CompuServe spokesman Jeff Shafer said Wednesday the Columbus-based company is working on a software fix that will prevent Germans from accessing the newsgroups while allowing access to customers in the rest of the world... Munich's senior public prosecutor, Manfred Wick, said this week his office did not order a ban or provide CompuServe with any list as part of its investigation of child pornography. But he acknowledged that police asked CompuServe to scrutinize a list last month. `The decision on whether and to what extent the groups on the list would be blocked was left to CompuServe,'' Wick's statement said.

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Using lasers to communicate
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:43 PM 1/4/96, Jason Rentz wrote: >Previous exchanges deleted... >> >>With a tightly focused beam (light is easy, I don't know about lower >>frequencies), you can prevent interception except by very obvious physical >>devices. (e.g. Someone in a cherry picker truck.) You may be able to >>avoid the need to encrypt the link (and all the paranoia about key >>management, advances in factoring etc. that that implies.) >> >>Bill > >The problem with this comes when you start creating links between much >taller buildings like in San Fran. Any give building over 30 stories might >sway a foot or so at any given time. Combine that with the other building >and you might get a few feet of movement. (movement not including during an >earthquake) :) Just a couple of points on this optical idea. We were linking buildings a mile apart in the 70s, at Intel. We needed to ship CAD data back and forth, and PacBell rates for a dedicated line were outrageous, slow to be installed, etc. So, a commercially available laser and modulator/demodulator (modem, but it bears sometimes using the longer version, to remind people of what it is doing in general) were mounted on the roofs of our buildings. I'm sure various packages are commercially available to do this. As to buildings swaying in earthquakes, somehow I don't think transient loss of channel capacity during a quake is going to be a pressing concern! :-} Swaying in ordinary wind is an easily-handled problem. (Any good engineer can think of several fixes: paraboloidal dish receivers are cheap (not even optical quality, just to get light pulses), compensation for sway, acceptance of slightly reduced data rates as modem error correction handles sway-induced dropouts, movement of the transmitters and receivers to lower levels, etc.) Also, nearly all high-tech buildings (or at least more than 95% of all high-tech floorspace in the U.S.) are less than 3-4 stories tall; most are 1-2 stories. Building sway is nonexistent. And building sway only approaches the multiple meter level in the highest floors of the tallest buildings. I would guess that fewer than 1% of all offices are affected; for them, a lower data rate is acceptable. I'm actually more positive on low-level (below safety regs get interested in) light than on free space RF, for bypassing of the local cable/phone monopolies. There's just not enough "bandwidth of free space" available. Do the math. (Footnote: Some years back some of us got interested in the idea of using lasers to communicate between San Diego/Chula Vista and Tijuana. Ordinary phone lines turned out to be cheaper.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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USENIX anyone?
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to be at the USENIX conference in San Diego later this month, as are, I suspect, many other crypto/cypherpunk types. Any interest in a crypto BOF?

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dsd
by FreeBSD user 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:55 1/4/96 -0500, Tony Iannotti wrote: >On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> Yes it would require that the Node be checked in the Software. What I was >> responding to was a claim that there is no way of telling where I am >> connecting from (which I disproved). As to calling a non-German Node, that >> is always an option. > >Yes, I agree. I think the real difference is that they really cannot tell >where you are calling from, even though they know where you are >connecting. Caller ID could tell them where you are calling from. They can also use their billing information and user profile information to decide where you live and/or how old you are. I wonder if any of these filters will keep the German prosecutors off their necks, given that they can be bypassed. I feel sorry for them given the situation they are in, and want to kick their butts for just rolling over dead instead of fighting for free access. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by Cedric Tefft 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: owner-cypherpunks > To: cypherpunks > Subject: Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP > Date: Thursday, January 04, 1996 11:29AM > > In article <v02130503ad119cbfdece(a)[205.231.67.43]>, > netdog <netdog(a)dog.net> wrote: > >nobody will ever need more than 640K or RAM? i wouldn't underestimate the > >ability of technology to grow at a pace that is beyond our wildest > >dreams-especially with this network serving as a virtual office/lab. of > >course, ymmv. > > Order of magnitude check: > > There is a very well-defined limit to the size of key that can be broken by > brute force, independent of your "wildest dreams" as to the growth of > technology. It's the Laws of Thermodynamics. [snip] No law says the attack has to be brute force. What about the birthday attack, differential cryptanalysis, etc? True, I believe neither of those examples are applicable to RSA, but factoring is, and it's _much_ more efficient than brute force searches. There might be other algorithems out there (or as yet undiscovered) that are more efficient than current factoring algorithms are (or ever hope to be). If your attacker has an algorithm whereby he has to search less than the full keyspace, he has effectively reduced the size of your key. Essentially, his attack is the same order of magnitude as a brute force search of this new reduced keyspace (call it "effective" keyspace for convenience). The greater difference between the effective keyspace and the real keyspace (determined by his cracking algorithm), the larger I need to make my real key to compensate. If his algorithm effectively cuts my keyspace in half, I need to make it twice as large as I would need if my attacker's best algorithm were brute force. >And they strongly imply that brute-force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible > until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy > something other than space." Hmmm... Well, the 384-bit Blacknet PGP key was cracked in just a few months. How? Certainly parallelism helped, but the main reason is that they were factoring keys rather than searching the full keyspace by brute force. I don't know about you, but I'm certainly not going to stop increasing the size of my key simply because it can't be cracked by brute force. - Cedric

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Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by Brad Shantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I've just installed the Microsoft Exchange Server release candidate at the office. I am firmly convinced that the bounce messages Tim just mentioned are from an Exchange server that has not been set up correctly. Things I've noticed: If the client sends a message to an invalid address on the same LAN the server returns an error saying that there is no transport available. If the mail is from an oustide source, the recipient is not recognized. It's really easy to make mistakes because there is no consistency whatsoever between Exchange Server and MS-Mail Server. Brad

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CACM Jan 96 "Inside Risks" column
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter G. Neumann has a very good column this month on risks and the "worldwide rush [to] digital commerce." Summarizes problems with our infrastructure, gives some concrete examples, and discusses importance of privacy as a commodity, and how "We need, among other things, ... consistent use of good cryptography in operating systems and application software." /r$

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@Home cable modem systems
by Thomas Grant Edwards 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

See URL http://www.home.net/home2/speed.html Some tidbits: @Home is a high-speed network that provides real-time multimedia news, information, entertainment and advertising content, access to the Internet, e-mail and other services to consumers via cable systems and their personal computers. The Mountain View, Calif.-based company is a joint venture between (between Tele-Communications Inc. and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers )venture capital firm. The @Home network will provide consumers with a significant increase in speed and quality over current online connections. The service will use a customized version of the popular Netscape browser that will run on most Microsoft Windows, Windows 95, Macintosh OS and UNIX personal computers. @Home will employ an open platform architecture that will make its features available to the widest possible number of users and content providers. The @Home network will operate over a high-speed backbone and existing cable systems and will be linked to home computers via cablemodems and standard Ethernet connections. @Home will include a wide variety of content. In addition to providing connections to the global Internet, the World Wide Web and e-mail, the service will enable content providers to create multimedia content that takes advantage of the high-speed network, as well as extensive local news and information. Deployment of the @Home service will begin in 1996 in select national markets, starting with Sunnyvale, Calif. The monthly charge for @Home is expected to be $30-$50 for unlimited use of basic services. ... Cable modems are almost 700 times faster than 14.4 modems and nearly 80 times faster than ISDN connections. Cable modems do not require an extra phone line, and they eliminate the time and potential trouble involved in dialing a service. Cable-based Internet services offer an even richer multimedia experience than CD-ROM technology, including real-time delivery and updating of content. And cable offers a direct connection to the online world--when you turn on the computer, you are on the network. @Home's network is based on a distributed model that makes extensive use of caching and replication to minimize traffic on the system's backbone and maintain high levels of speed. @Home will operate its own global network infrastructure connecting to the Internet at multiple locations. The @Home backbone will connect regional data centers together via a multi-megabit switched data system. These regional centers would serve limited geographic areas, such as individual cities, and would be connected to local servers located at cable system headends. @Home users would be connected to the headends via local area networks operating over the cable system, which is a two-way hybrid fiber-optic/coaxial cable configured asymmetrically. Many cable companies have upgraded their systems to handle such two-way connections or are in the process of doing so. At the home, the service would arrive over the same cable that delivers television signals, which would not be affected by the addition of data services. The cable modem, which would be supplied by the cable company, would be connected to the subscriber's computer with a standard 10-Base-T Ethernet cable. Many computers now include Ethernet connections or can easily be upgraded. The software required to use the service would be provided to the subscriber by @Home and will include a TCP/IP stack and Internet browser software with built-in e-mail and multimedia capabilities.

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hi peter!
by FreeBSD user 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Starting an e-cash bank
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:41 1/4/96, Scott Brickner wrote: >Wait a minute. I can see how one needn't be a bank to convert ecash >into pcash, but going the other way requires that the cash be >transferrable in ways that Digicash isn't. > >If I withdraw ecash from the bank, it's marked so I'm the one who's >identified if it's double-spent. If I give the cash to someone else >(different from paying it to them, which requires they have an account) >they're free to double-spend with (relative) impugnity. Present day Ecash is bases on online clearing. I does not encode any user idendifiying information into the coin. You are thinking of offline Ecash. Besides, wherer users get the Ecash from, be it by putting money into their account at MT or buying it from you doesn't matter. They still need an account with MT. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (wireless)
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you want to try a wireless network run by a couple of known cypherpunk types, browse www.fish.com. Your packets will be moving over a 2 Mbit/sec wireless network, using AT&T WaveLan (www.ncr.com/pub/products/wavelan) ISA-bus cards in PC-clone routers built by KarlNet (www.karlbridge.com) I think of it as a NAN (Neighborhood Area Network). The security is only DES at the card level, but we hope to layer IPSEC (RFC 1825) on top. John

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Are you sure it's a bug in the DOS version? When I did a pgp -kg in my >> UNIX shell (US version 2.6.2) I also entered 2048 bits and it too >> created a 2047 bit key instead. There are some versions that can only do 2047; there are others that have some sort of bug dealing with keys over some number like 2032, so if you're doing a new key around that size, 2000 might be safer. Looking at the distribution of keysizes on the MIT key server was interesting; there are a lot of unique or lightly-used values besides the popular 384, 510, 512, 768, 1024, 2047, 2048.... Something to think about if you're concerned about traffic analysis and anonymity. >> Why is there a limit to the size of the key anyway? It's too bad PGP >> doesn't support any size key (within reason). By the time the Bad Guys can factor 2047-bit keys cheaply, you'll have more serious problems to worry about, which may fundamentally change your assumptions about cost-effective cracking and the amount of security you need to provide. Remember that 1024 is currently way beyond crackable, so interesting theoretical things will have to happen before even that much is at risk. Also, there are a _lot_ of things around that tend to get 128-bit MD5 calculations in them - don't get overoptimistic about anything that pretends to be stronger than that. (IDEA's 128-bit keys are about as tough as 3000+bit RSA keys, and anything limited to 128 bits is going to be in that general ballpark.) PGP's random number stuff _is_ stronger than that, but that's still a fundamental limit. As a separate issue, programs do their calculations in data structures which have _some_ sizes to them. They could be assigned dynamically, but large-and-static isn't that bad, and PGP was originally for DOS anyway; if that's the least evil thing you find in the code, be happy :-) #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 # # "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance" used to mean us watching # the government, not the other way around....

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by Cedric Tefft 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Scott Brickner > To: Cedric Tefft > Subject: Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP > Date: Thursday, January 04, 1996 3:41PM > > Return-Path: <sjb(a)universe.digex.net> > Message-Id: <199601042141.QAA15905(a)universe.digex.net> > X-Authentication-Warning: universe.digex.net: Host localhost didn't use HELO > protocol > To: Cedric Tefft <CedricT(a)bart.datastorm.com> > Subject: Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP > In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 04 Jan 1996 14:12:00 PST.) > <30EC5109(a)ms-mail.datastorm.com> > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 15:41:51 -0600 > From: Scott Brickner <sjb(a)universe.digex.net> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Cedric Tefft writes: > > If his algorithm effectively cuts my keyspace in half, I need to make it > >twice as large as I would need if my attacker's best algorithm were brute > >force. > > Um. No. If his algorithm cuts the keyspace in half, you only need to > make it one bit larger. > You are correct. I'm afraid I was thinking one thing and typing another. What I meant to say is that the attacker has an algorithm that effectively cuts my keySIZE (instead of keyspace) in half, i.e. his algorithm requires him to try on average only 2^1023 keys (instead of 2^2047 for a brute force attack) to crack my key of 2048 bits. Thanks for pointing this out. "Who needs encryption when their thoughts are unclear in plaintext?" - Cedric

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RE: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by Kurt Buff (Volt Comp) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK, I'm game. What is the story behind your .sig? Given the obvious reluctance state it fully, perhaps someone else can reply? |We Jurgar Din |(that will have to suffice: I do not yet live in a free country) ---------- From: nobody@REPLAY.COM[SMTP:nobody@REPLAY.COM] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 1996 9:07 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "L. Malthus" wrote: > I was told that Belize is offering passports for the next > two years for $50,000 and that might be even less if offers > were made to the government to provide low cost Internet > access to the citizens of Belize. > > http://www.belize.com/citzdoc.html > > Belize has always been known as a home for pirates, A > wonderful Cypherpunk candidate for an offshore data haven! Belize is a shit hole that is as willing as many other slimeball countries to deny someone entry and force them kicking and screaming onto the next flight to the U.S. on request from U.S. authorities. In principle, that is kidnaping. They use the technicality that the person never entered their territory. No- man's lands of port zones where the most basic rights may be violated without regard to a country's constitution are another class of abuse that will have to go. Belize is also the place where Bob White, publisher of The Duck Book and sponsor of some of the largest hard-money conferences ever held, was murdered. The usual suspects were not even rounded up. Someone once wrote that the principle cash crop of Belize is lice. In reality it may be principles. At least the Hondurans got angry when a citizen was kidnaped by the U.S. We Jurgar Din (that will have to suffice: I do not yet live in a free country) +"The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone. It is to the+ +vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no + +election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now + +too late to retire from the contest." -Patrick Henry 1775 + -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMOt2E0jw99YhtpnhAQHa7gH/Z4cjIcT50+0lxJTF7lHCfcPvSPzXW5BU Yuea9C5s+1KgNDUYDe2ItTfOf3TTb+2deJGbDgf2TEP+A/q5S+9JHw== =H46M -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FreeBSD user
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've just had my 3rd Freebsd kernel. Enough is enough. --Proff -- +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ |Julian Assange | "if you think the United States has | |FAX: +61-3-9819-9066 | stood still, who built the largest | |EMAIL: proff(a)suburbia.net | shopping centre in the world?" - Nixon | +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+

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Re: FreeBSD user <fb@sponsor.octet.com>
by reagle＠rpcp.mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I consider it to be an attack. Certainly seems like it to me when it bungs up my poor eudora dial-up connection and I can't get mail.

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Re: FreeBSD user <fb@sponsor.octet.com>
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No, got three myself. The third did seem a little different from the first two though, but I didn't study them that closely. ]> > Am I the only one who has received three unreadable > messages from this address on cypherpunks? > > -- > #include <disclaimer.h> /* Sten Drescher */ Lou Zirko (615)851-1057 Zystems lzirko(a)isdn.net "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBLJocAAAEEAMlDzYJPYq0pvfMuSiKU0Y65L2nJql+qEJHYGjO5Pys4prDw YW1ooPWaqrPQAy/eyqrM7I9KNFDCtmaPxtgcPw2oEDfc/w6cPkrVzvovKLfHQvtg V/hHUekptSf6j525omrVAoM9MxVL3sEGCjn9VrTeC3h9upkfntHOJeL88i2NAAUR tB5Mb3UgWmlya28gPHppcmtvbEBkYXRhdGVrLmNvbT4= =Qlxm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 AM 1/4/96 -0800, you wrote: >All that being said, I believe that 128 bits is sufficient for a >symmetric key and 2048 for a public key. Our paranoia would be far >better directed at as yet unknown attacks on the algoritms involved >or the specific implementations of cryptographic systems. Paul Kocher's >recent timing attack is a perfect example of what we should be afraid >of. Exactly! I agree. There is plenty of work that can be directed towards the hardware arena, for example. Better filters (AC, telephone, keyboard cable), untamperable hardware (keyboards come to mind, for instance: Design one whose RF "signature" can't be read remotely), a push towards the use of thin-film-type displays that don't radiate (much) in the RF spectrum, automatic over-write of unused data areas in hard/floppy disks (including the (unallocated) space at the ends of files), etc.

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