December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: GAK patents, anyone? Re: GAK patents, anyone?
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date Arrived: 10Sep_19:13:47 From: roach_s(a)alph.swosu.edu ----------- ... > Back up just a minute. > Aren't inventions protected if the patent is pending? If not, why do such > well known companies who undoubtly have savvy legal council produce products > stamped "patent pending"? I've always regarded it as "We applied for a patent and it hasn't actually been refused yet, so keep off." [The following is based on various magazine articles, net discussions etc.] Until the last year or so (when it harmonised with GATT) US law produced "submarine patents". These were patents applied for, subject to a period of waiting of course, and then (if granted) were valid _from the date of the application_ i.e. back-dated. This meant you could quite innocently find yourself being clobbered by a patent that had only just sprung into existence. There were other problems including the US granting patents to the 'inventor' - rather than the 'first to file'. 'First to file' is actually a good indication of who the inventor is. The other scheme just got inventor-identity disputed by the lawyers. For a vision of patents as they should be, I know nothing to beat Phil Karn's web pages. http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/patents.html -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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Building in Big Brother, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1385,00.html The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) September 10, 1997 Building in Big Brother By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) The U.S. Congress, bowing to law enforcement demands for more wiretap powers, is preparing to approve a scheme that endangers the personal freedom of every American. Nobody doubts that wiretaps are useful tools for law enforcement agents. FBI Director Louis Freeh, who as a young agent built his career on them, knows this well. But Freeh's plan would expand the FBI's eavesdropping ability by building Big Brother into every word processor, every e-mail program and every web browser. All computer software distributed after 1998 would have a special, secret backdoor for government access to your most private files. Even your Internet provider would be deputized as a cyber-snoop. It's the technological equivalent of requiring that every homeowner turn over a spare copy of his front door key to the FBI. This is the same FBI that has a long and disturbing history of abusing Americans' privacy. As director, J. Edgar Hoover built a successful career out of illegal wiretaps, secret files and political blackmail. Hoover despised Martin Luther King, Jr. -- branding him an "obsessive degenerate" -- and once sent him an anonymous letter, using information gathered through illegal surveillance, to encourage the depressed civil rights leader to commit suicide. Hoover's legacy? Having the FBI headquarters bear his name today. [...]

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Re: Renaming TEA remailer
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alex de Joode <adejoode(a)replay.com>: > Do they own the trademark in the UK ? If not you can still use > Anonymizer for whatever service you are providing in the UK. Don't know, don't care. There was a Nice Thing To Do. (Don't forget Lance Cottrell is connected with Infonex, and without him we wouldn't have mixmaster remailers to run.) -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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Re: economic espionage (@#$%^&*)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>> >It was said that Pres. Clinton had given a speech while >>> >visiting the CIA HQ in Langley/Virginia. He allegedly >>> >said in this speech that obtaining industrial >>> >informations has the highest priority and this were the >>> >new task for the spies. Dr. John Deutsch, speaking to the National Press Club, also mentioned economic espionage, with the State Department as a primary customer, but was concerned about definitions of goals, etc. He did reassure the NPC that the CIA would continue to work with drug dealers and corrupt South American military and other scum who have information to sell, as well as cooperating more closely with the FBI and DEA, but on the other hand he does apparently view domestic operations as clearly outside the CIA's job. One set of content in his speech was the planned combination of the various satellite data interpretation organizations into one group of CIA/Pentagon/NRO/NSA/etc. ObCrypto: One questioner asked him about the growing use of encoding and would the CIA be able to keep up eavesdropping on people. "We're very good at eavesdropping" was his main reply; he did acknowledge that there was an issue but didn't go into the party line about needing to have escrow to get GAK. Clinton, meanwhile, reassured guests at a $1000/plate fundraising lunch that the Republicans' economic plans would mainly affect the poor and wouldn't trouble the rich too much... :-) #--- # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Cypherpunks Bay Area Meeting, This Satuday September 13th
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What: Cypherpunks September 1997 Bay Area Meeting When: Saturday September 13, 12 noon till 5pm Where: PGP World Headquarters, 2nd floor meeting room Bayview Bank Building, just south of Hwy. 92 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo California http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head Agenda: Forbes Article background, everyone Cypherpunks at HIP'97, Lucky Green, David Del Torto Ecash announcement, Jeremey Barrett, BlueMoney Software Corp. Linux Onion Router, Jeremey Barrett Diffie-Helman Free of Patent, ??? New FBI Anti-Crypto Bill, how to react, everyone Domain name conference report, John Gilmore Attacks on US remailers etc., Bill Stewart ??? After: Eat dinner somewhere yet to be decided... PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call DDT at +1 415 730 3583 he I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff.

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Re: Another Netscape Bug (and possible security hole)
by Halvor Kise jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 22 Sep 1995, Ray Cromwell wrote: > I've found a Netscape bug which I suspect is a buffer overflow and > may have the potential for serious damage. If it is an overflow bug, > then it may be possible to infect every computer which accesses a web > page with Netscape. To see the bug, create an html file containing > the following: Yes! Nice! At last I can include a big Netrape icon on my homepage. Maybye with the text "Netscape users, click here.." All the link does is to crash netscape... At last! Thanks Ray! :-) - - Halvor. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQCVAwUBMGJlamzoaW8/SAL5AQGGigP/Q0K5tT8pAxNp7xigYP3r8WB6oxQXa7n1 G6L9umkfIBhPeZ9hFhCmSNvZLds31qoczl9QW2u+kSV10QYBuDsTlW56R9Hjh6PM /U5h6Ig9eD3jcf74388YEw4iUyKT+kNbcYSiCCvcK22MdA3T8W5ZXpg7f9ODaLSk uVZBl+pEA3Q= =HBzy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- *** MEMENTO MORI *** PGP-key by fingering halvork(a)frodo.hiof.no http://www.hiof.no/~halvork/ * Support The Phil Zimmermann legal defense fund * http://www.netresponse.com/zldf

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Firefly Welcome
by Firefly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Income Tax Reform
by Jon D. Luman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A great way to reform the Federal Income Tax is to file and start enjoying your exempt status (you qualify if born in one of the 50 states). Then, these taxes will no longer apply to you. If enough people exercised their right to their exempt status, the government would have to live within it's means. Get details at: http://FutureGate.com/tax_buster ............................................... To be removed from future mailings, send to remove@futuregate,com with Remove in the subject line.

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[Fwd: Fwd: Engineers] Fwd: Engineers
by EFF 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Crypto-czar nominated for Commerce Dept undersecretary (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Crypto-czar nominated for Commerce Dept undersecretary Clinton Nominates Aaron to Commerce Department Post WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 /U.S. Newswire/ -- President Clinton today announced his intent to nominate Ambassador David L. Aaron for the position of Under Secretary for International Trade at the Department of Commerce. Aaron, of Sag Harbor, N.Y., has extensive experience in both national and international issues. Since 1993, he has served as U.S. Ambassador to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). In 1996, the White House announced his appointment as Special Envoy for Cryptography, giving him the responsibility of promoting the growth of international electronic commerce and robust, secure global communications in a manner that protects the public safety and national security. In 1962, Aaron entered the Foreign Service where he served in a variety of posts including NATO, the United Nations, and the Strategic Arms talks. After leaving the Foreign Service, he continued in government at the National Security Council, on the staff of Sen. Walter Mondale, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as Deputy National Security Advisor to President Carter. Upon leaving government, Aaron became vice president for mergers and acquisitions at Oppenheimer and Co. Prior to becoming ambassador, he was a senior fellow at the Twentieth Century Fund, served on the board of the National Democratic Institute and the International League for Human Rights, and was a member of the Overseas Development Council and the Council on Foreign Relations. He is a recipient of the National Defense Medal, the Pentagon's highest civilian award, and the author of three novels. Aaron is a graduate of Occidental College and Princeton University. As head of the Commerce Department's International Trade Administration, Aaron will be responsible for policies and programs that promote world trade and strengthen the international trade and investment position of the United States.

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Freeh says FBI doing great, supports Weaver killer
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

WASHINGTON (AP) - FBI Director Louis Freeh today declared his agency "in great shape" despite a recent spate of public relations embarrassments and said he has no plans to step down from his job. Timothy McVeigh's conviction for the Oklahoma City bombing, the capture of CIA shooting suspect Mir Aimal Kansi of Pakistan and other recent successes have helped restore public confidence in the FBI, he told reporters today. The agency's image has suffered in recent years in the wake of a variety of controversies, including its conduct in the investigation of the Atlanta Olympic bombing, allegations that its crime lab had mishandled evidence and accusations that he had failed to fully brief the White House on China's alleged efforts to contribute money to U.S. political campaigns. "I think in large part that we're past it," Freeh said of the FBI's public relations problems. "We will always be controversial. ... But I think that how the FBI responds to those problems is what's important." In an April edition of Newsweek, an article quoted Freeh as saying he had considered quitting his job. But today, Freeh said he may even serve out his 10-year term. "I'm staying on," he said. "I've got no current plans to leave." He also said the FBI is close to hiring a new assistant director for the crime lab, choosing from a list of candidates that includes "world-class scientists." He also said the FBI continues a vigorous investigation of a June 1996 bombing that killed 19 American airmen in Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that Hani al-Sayegh, a Saudi dissident, had reneged on an agreement to provide information on the case. "His reneging on that agreement is not a serious setback to our own investigation," Freeh said. The FBI will continue to stand behind Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sharpshooter charged last month by local authorities with involuntary manslaughter for the shooting death of Vicky Weaver, wife of white supremacist Randy Weaver, during a deadly standoff in Idaho, Freeh said. "We fully support him," Freeh said. "It was a horrible tragedy. It was a mistake on his part, but we believe he was acting as he was trained to do. He was within the scope of his authority. ... He reasonably believed at the time that what he was doing was proper."

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Re: Renaming TEA remailer (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:08:51 -0700 > From: Lance Cottrell <loki(a)infonex.com> > Subject: Re: Renaming TEA remailer > I really don't understand this reaction. We asked Antonomasia nicely to > rename his remailer. He very kindly agreed. The Trademark registration has > been filed, but not yet approved. It is a long process. Seems it is in his best interest to not change it. Not only does he get notoriety but he weakens your trademark claim by demonstrating that you don't use it exclusively and that it has a history preceeding your claims. Also, since he has been so kind to work with you have you recompensed him for his loss at your gain? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Removing Tyranny from Democracy (Part II), (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: amp(a)pobox.com > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:32:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: Removing Tyranny from Democracy (Part II), (fwd) > You miss the point entirely. This is =not= supposed to be a democracy. That > is why we have a constitution (theoretically a set of restrictions upon the > powers of government), and bill of rights. This is most certainly a democracy, it's called a representative democracy. That we have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights is a measure of the founding fathers wisdom but by no means are either required to have a democracy, nor do either by definition eliminate a governmental form from being a democracy. > > > 2. In a democracy, you can't have property rights because 51% can > > > capriciously decide to confiscate anyone's property. That depends on how the founders define the democracy. The definition of a democracy does NOT define the system put in place merely who has a say in how it runs. You're painting with way too broad a brush. Like most things simply being a cat does not equate all cats to be the same. This also applies to democracies, there is plenty of room to manuever when designing it. > > Since there are no true democracies extant your point is moot. > > There have been, that is why the point is not moot. The point is, we are > becoming one, with the advent of instant polling and politicians and > citizens who obviously can't read as simple a document as the constitution. Where? When? No government ever implimented by man has ever been a true anything. Not democracy, communism, etc. They are all hybrids of one sort or another. For there to be a true democracy as you seem to define it we would require every man, woman, and child to carry a vote and be required to vote on each and every issue. No government in history has had this much prosperity or homogoneity in the desires of the people. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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17 Dec '03

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ANNOUNCE: NIST AES Advanced Encryption System development effort
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NIST is putting out a call for candidates for an Advanced Encryption System, following work and comment periods earlier this year. http://csrc.nist.gov/encryption/aes/aes_home.htm Symmetric block cypher, 128-bit blocks, keylengths 128, 192, 256. No mention of escrow >Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology > formerly National Bureau of Standards >Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are those of the sender > and do not reflect NIST policy or agreement. >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:50:11 -0400 >To: foti(a)st1.ncsl.nist.gov >From: Jim Foti <foti(a)st1.ncsl.nist.gov> >Subject: Update on AES development effort > >Folks, > >Please take a look at <http://csrc.nist.gov/encryption/aes/aes_home.htm> >for the AES call for candidate algorithms, which is expected to be >published in the Federal Register on Friday, Sept. 12. > >As is indicated in the announcement, clarification questions should be >directed to "aesquest(a)nist.gov". > >Once again, this "FYI" message is being sent to all of you who either >registered for the April '97 workshop, attended that workshop, or provided >comments on the original Federal Register notice in January. We really >appreciate your interest in this development effort. > >Regards, >Jim Foti > >

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Taxless society concerns
by Warpy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been reading some of the various "manifesto's" and "rants" lately advocating societies free of government, taxes, etc. Whilst I agree in principal with some of the subjects/proposals raised, there are still a few things that have not been (i feel) adequately answered. First off. In such a society, who cares for the old, the sick, and the infirm? How is such care going to be payed for? How will basic services be maintained without the necessary taxes required to pay for them? Now before you start yelling at me and calling me a government sympathiser, let me say that i am disgusted at the amount of money spent by governments around the world on military equipment and personnel. If such a taxless society were to eventuate there would be *hopefully* that much more money floating around to help those who need it most. But the question remains. In such a taxless society, and little or no government, how are those less fortunate than us going to be cared for? Warpy --------------------------------------------------------------------- | http://suburbia.com.au/~warpy | | Key Fingerprint: 85 17 4A E3 0C C5 BB 24 36 22 BB A6 E8 41 D5 95 | | Email: warpy(a)sekurity.org | ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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GAO's Chaos Cryptosystem Algorithms
by Nobuki Nakatuji 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Credit Card might-as-well-equal SSN (fwd)
by Lindsay Haisley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was under the impression that using a SSN for identification purposes was illegal. A while back I went to a company that rented sound equipment to pick up some equipment for a job, and was asked for my SSN as part of my credit application. I told them that I believed that it was illegal to require an SSN and they said, in effect, if you want to rent from us, you have to give us your SSN. When I got home, I called the Social Security Administration office in Austin and after being bounced around among lots of people who knew absolutely nothing about the subject, I finally reached someone who informed me that this practice is perfectly legal as long as you're not >required< to give your SSN. Since I didn't, in theory, have to do business with these folks, they therefore apparently had every right to require my SSN as a condition of doing business with them. In point of fact, when the incident occurred, it was getting late, I had to have the equipment for my job, and so I gave them what they wanted. At 09:35 PM 9/10/97 -0500, Jim Choate did speak as follows.... >>Questions: Is this for real? How wide spread is this? What does U-Haul do >>with your SSN? How difficult is it for someone (company) to get your SSN >>when you use your credit card? > >Did you ask if it was a U-Haul requirement or a Texas one? > >If you've ever given your SSN when applying for a credit card, >you can be pretty sure they've got your SSN in the credit report. >Perhaps if you've got a secured debit card of some sort >you've been able to keep it separate from your other credit history, >if any, but most people have slipped at least once, or had an account >at a bank that collected the SSN for tax reasons and then included it >in credit reports. Lindsay Haisley (______) FMP Computer Services (oo) "The bull fmouse(a)fmp.com /------\/ stops here!" Austin, Texas, USA / | || 512-259-1190 * ||---|| * * * * * * ~~ ~~ http://www.fmp.com

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Snuffle Destroys United States: Film at 11
by Mike Duvos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> writes: > Today the Government filed a 22-page brief arguing to the > 9th Circuit Court that it would be so injurious to the > national security for Prof. Bernstein to be able to publish > his Snuffle 5.0 software on the Internet, that a complete > stay of Judge Patel's injunction is needed. > The brief is accompanied by two seven-page personal > declarations, one from William P. Crowell, Deputy Director > of NSA, and one from William A. Reinsch, Under Secretary for > Export Administration. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "Snuffle" was some simple-minded cipher designed to test ITAR. I didn't think it was something anyone would choose to incorporate into a serious product. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch(a)zipcon.com $ via Finger $ {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}

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New Member Registration
by somebody＠somewhere.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A Message From Mr. T Account Login: killer Account Password: instinct This message has been auto-generated - No need to reply

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Mondex
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy May's IQ is lower than the belly of a pregnant snake. _ o |<)_/# Timmy May TT <T

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17 Dec '03

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InfoWar 4 (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet')
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Netscape browser crypto
by Steve Mynott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I notice Netscape 4 has support for "cryptographical modules" and comes with PKCS#11 module. Are there any third party modules (PGP?) available? Also is it possible to import certificates (PGP?) into the browser so you aren't stuck with Verisign et al. -- Steve Mynott, work: http://webmedia.com/ +44 171 317 1341 ---- strange: http://machine-elves.com/ mobile: 0956 265761 | \_|_\ pegwit v8 public key = \ |_|_| | cbecf90546ea12b28de9e6fdbb956ee8cf83bbcd63726a93643f44a474acdfb9 \|__\|

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