December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

random numbers and human nature
by remail＠tamsun.tamu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

maybe i'm just stupid, but i haven't seen this discussed yet. has anyone realized that there will be a lot of encrypted data out there when the "general public" starts using encryption regularly? think about it. people will pick passwords/phrases that they *think* they'll remember when they next decide to decrypt the file or whatever. and these are the people that come out of shopping malls and have hard time finding where they parked car. how many times have you had to regen your pub/sec keys? :) sweet & sour, Ducoyuh Tokuzuham Gemugez Neshotsu

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an open offer
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A >(To the insiders: it will be quite awhile before we sort everything A >out and file charges, so be patient.) Don't wait too long. We might be out of the jurisdiction. DCF Say, is there any way we could knock cypherpunks off the nets for four days? Did the s/n ratio on extropians a world of good. Maybe the extropian list software could incorporate random outages throughout the year. Just a thought... --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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Re: No subject
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'll be there, but I probably won't identify myself without my mask. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Anonymous Geeks With Killfiles
by lefty＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some anonymous geek writes: > >In article <931025174804_72114.1712_FHF124-2(a)compuserve.com>, >Sandy <72114.1712(a)CompuServe.COM> wrote: >: [who cares?] > >You are a rude and obnoxious individual who believes that an >argument can be answered with ad hominem. What, you mean like calling 'em "rude and obnoxious"? >If you had anything >worth paying attention to, you sabotaged any possibility of my >paying attention to it by your actions. > >Welcome to my killfile. I can imagine the extreme degree of concern that Sandy must be feeling over being placed in the killfile of an unidentified non-entity. -- Lefty (lefty(a)apple.com) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.

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Re: DC-nets, up from the basic concept
by pierre＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> You could (maaaybe :-( establish the layering: > > Coaxial - Ethernet - IP - TCP / Telnet - RFC822 email - > PEM - DC-net - IP - TCP / Telnet - RFC822 email - PEM Before somebody takes the above tooooo seriously, I'll add that it would take major work to modify TCP/IP to function as the second "TCP/IP" layer in the example above. This is because TCP/IP relies on dialogs between machines/nets instead of broadcasts (at least at the internetwork level), so messages should be traceable back to an inter-DC-net "table", but could not be traced back to a specific host. Pierre pierre(a)shell.portal.com

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Enough!
by Philippe_D_Nave 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, all! The Detweiler-flaming is getting out of hand, folks. Some of you have individual gripes with him, and I recognize your right to carry on conversations via e-mail, but I (for one) am thoroughly sick of looking at this latest wave of gratuitous harassment. There are plenty of arenas that provide this sort of entertainment; if the best you can do with your Internet access is send 'nyah-nyah-nyah' messages, I suggest that you log into some local PC bulletin boards and flame away. (Those of you with multiple personalities and/or avatars can flame yourselves; you'll get better response time that way anyway. <grin>). The death threats are particularly infantile, regardless of whether or not they were meant as some sort of obscure joke. The reason coffee houses don't normally have bouncers is that they normally don't _need_ them; in our case, I hope we can move past this disruptive behavior and keep the coffee house crowd from permanently polarizing into opposing camps. If that happens, I think we'll lose whatever benefit there is to be had from this sort of forum. I appeal to all of us to reconsider the motives that led us to the 'punks to start with - are we 'cypherpunks' who 'write code' and 'have fun,' or are we just 'punks' who try to impress one another with how vicious we can be? There is a big difference. Newbies : If you think that there is stature to be gained by joining in this sorry spectacle, think again. The only place you can gain respect by abusing someone else is a street gang (or the U.S. Congress, perhaps). ........................................................................ Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | The person who does not use message encryption pdn(a)dwroll.dw.att.com | will soon be at the mercy of those who DO... Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.

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why a nym?
by nobody＠rosebud.ee.uh.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Arthur Chandler asks why run a nym -- > Isn't it tough enough to build up a rep under our real names? What is > the point to using a pseudonym? I can think of some bad reasons; but I > can't come up with any good ones, except for "fun" and "just to see what > it feels like to put out opinions not my own." I'm sure I'm missing the > point; so, before you jump on me as a Clueless Newbie, can you run by > the reasons why you want to have alternate personas on the NET? I had a nice long message composed in response, explaining my own circumstances, but on review, it's clear that I can't explain without revealing personal information, threatening exposure. Sorry. But use your imagination. There are plenty of uses, such as speaking out and whistle blowing, and cypherpunks are interested in anonymous digital economies, so running a nym is good for practice. If you listen to some cypherpunks, there are research questions, too. Anonymous

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TELECOMMUNICATIONS POLICY ROUNDTABLE -- a cast of billions (fwd)
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TELECOMMUNICATIONS POLICY ROUNDTABLE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Jeff Chester OCTOBER 26, 1993 (202) 628-2620 New Coalition Unveils Public Interest Blueprint for America's 21st Century Telecommunications Highway Washington, DC -- A new coalition, the Telecommunications Policy Roundtable, is calling on Americans to make their voices heard on seven vital issues of communications policy. The coalition's goal is the creation of new approaches to building our nation's emerging information infrastructure. The Telecommunications Policy Roundtable is a public interest coalition of more than seventy organizations. Its statement of principles comes less than a month after the Clinton administration released its own blueprint: "National Information Infrastructure: Agenda for Action." The Clinton program envisions a national network linking computer, telephone and television technologies. The statement also follows dramatic developments in the telecommunications industry, including the planned merger of Bell Atlantic and Tele-Communications Incorporated (TCI). The statement, entitled "Renewing the Commitment to a Public Interest Telecommunications Policy," outlines a series of principles, and introduces them with this credo: "We believe that the following principles must guide policymaking in order to ensure that future generations inherit an information infrastructure which enhances the quality of life for everyone." The seven principles are: o Universal access -- In our information age, everyone has a right to affordable news, education and government information. Information that is essential to the functioning of citizens in a democracy should be free. o Freedom to Communicate -- Information is a two way street. The design of the new networks should aid two-way audio and video communication from anyone to any individual, group or network. o Vital civic sector -- The new networks should allow all groups and individuals to freely express their ideas and opinions. The new networks should include a way for us to build communities. o Diverse and competitive marketplace -- No one should ever control both the wire or wires into our home and the content of the programs that go over those wires. o Equitable workplace -- workers must be valued and protected in the new electronic workplace. Nondiscriminatory practices must form the core of the new information marketplace. o Privacy protection -- Privacy should be carefully protected and extended. o Democratic policy making -- Every American deserves to be heard on this complex set of issues. The coalition meets monthly in Washington, DC. A complete list of member organizations is attached. TELECOMMUNICATIONS POLICY ROUNDTABLE Member Organizations List Current Through October 26, 1993 Alliance for Community Media Alliance for Public Technology American Arts Alliance American Association of Law Libraries American Civil Liberties Union American Council of the Blind American Library Association Arts Wire American Speech-Language-Hearing Association Association of America's Public Television Stations Association of Research Libraries The Benton Foundation Boston Computer Society, Public Service Committee Center for Civic Networking Center for Excellence in Education/Advanced Engineering Research & Associates Center for Media Education Center for Policy Alternatives Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility Computer Researching Association Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities Consortium of Social Science Associations Consumer Federation of America Coalition for Networked Information Electronic Frontier Foundation Gallaudet University Government Accountability Project High Performance, an arts magazine The Information Trust Institute for Public Representation Institute for Alternative Journalism Iris Network for Teachers, an on-line system on the MetaNetwork The Legacy Project Libraries for the Future Lowenstein and Associates Media Access Project Medical Library Association Minority Legislative Education Program National Alliance of Media Arts and Culture National Association for the Deaf National Association of Artists Organizations National Capitol Area Public Access Network (CapAccess) National Center for Law and Deafness National Citizens Communications Lobby National Coalition on Black Voter Participation National Coordinating Committee for the Promotion of History National Federation of Community Broadcasters National Learning Foundation National Security Archive National Writers Union (Local 1981 UAW) New York Foundation for the Arts OMB Watch People for the American Way Public Citizen Public Service Telecommunications Corporation Seattle Community Network Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Inc. SLONET Special Libraries Association Sports Fans United Taxpayer Assets Project The Technology Education Council of Somerville (Massachusetts) Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc. Telecommunications Committee, National Association for the Deaf Telecommunications Section of the Community Development Society TVFA, Television for All Telluride Institute/InfoZone Unison Institute United Cerebral Palsy Associations, Inc. U.S. Public Policy Committee of the Association for Computing Machinery World Institute on Disability Writers Guild of America, East, Inc. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ For more information about the Telecommunications Policy Roundtable, please contact Jeff Chester at the below address. C E N T E R F O R M E D I A E D U C A T I O N 1511 K Street, NW, Suite 518 Washington, DC 20005 Telephone: (202) 628-2620 Fax: (202) 628-2554 Internet: cme(a)access.digex.net -- -=> mech(a)eff.org <=- Stanton McCandlish Electronic Frontier Foundation Online Activist & SysOp "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood of ideas in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -JFK NitV-DC BBS 202-232-2715, Fido 1:109/? IndraNet 369:111/1, 14.4V32b 16.8ZyX

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Re: help/subscribe
by peb＠PROCASE.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It seems I perpetrated a vile and offensive error in sending a subscribe >request directly to the list. I don't get offended, I just save the subscribe/unsubscribe message in a special folder that I will use to train a learning algorithm to recognize these kinds of requests. Then, I will create a program that detects these so that mailing lists everywhere can automatically bounce messages back to the sender with specific message like "please send un/subscribe messages to fubar-request(a)node.com". In other words, thanks for your example. Anyone who sends me examples will benefit this project. (But don't send examples from cypherpunks--I already get them.) If anyone has suggestions for implementation that maximizes applicability (e.g., I could write a C program that reads stdin or a named file and returns a status code), please let me know. Paul E. Baclace peb(a)procase.com

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MEETING: UK Cryptoprivacy Association
by 1＠eternity.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- UK Cryptoprivacy Association meeting Date: Sunday, 31 October 1993 Time: 1430 At the offices of: FOREST 4th floor 2 Grosvenor Gardens London SW1W 0DH [ FOREST is located at the corner of Grosvenor Gardens and Hobart Place, a couple of blocks west of Victoria Station. There is a taxi shelter across the street from the office. Those who have trouble finding this location can page Russell Whitaker on 081-812-2661, and stand by the payphone or cellphone for a callback. ] The UK Cryptoprivacy Association has its roots in the U.S. cypherpunk advocacy of strong personal cryptography. The next UKCA meeting, to be held at the offices of FOREST (see the above), will feature roundtable discussion on such issues as: - The recent well-publicised discovery of a larger number of U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) electronic listening posts than had been previously suspected; - Further news on the spread of freely-available public key cryptography software in Eastern Europe, Russia, and the Transcaucasian states; - The status of the various UK and Moscow PGP public key servers and software archive sites, with input from a couple of maintainers of these services in the UK; - The implications of the legal controversy surrounding the development and distribution of PGP encryption software in the U.S., with further discussion on the possibility of volunteer contributions to Phil Zimmermann's legal defence fund; - Introduction to public key cryptography for novices Attendees are encouraged to bring and exchange diskettes with their PGP public keys. A few of us will bring along our MS-DOS laptops, to sign public keys on site. In the interest of speeding things along, it is recommended that all keys signed at the meeting be submitted later, with their newly appended signatures, to the PGP Key Server at Demon Internet Services. Send a message with the subject line "help" to pgp-public-keys(a)demon.co.uk, for more information. PGP (Phil Zimmermann's "Pretty Good Privacy") public key encryption software can be obtained by ftp from, among other places, ftp.demon.co.uk in the directory /pub/pgp. Versions include, but are not limited to, Unix, MS-DOS, Archimedes, and MacOS. Full source code is available. This meeting will also feature discussion on the upcoming First European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy (ECFP '93) to be held on 20 November 1993, which will feature speakers including John Gilmore, David Chaum, and Duncan Frissell, as well as a representative of the UK's Data Protection Registry. Russell Earl Whitaker ECFP Ventures Ltd -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLLTAC4Tj7/vxxWtPAQGxdQP9G7uFHCcLJeSTTOBKYFBck2PpVk/jvWyM bxRg0stdjuWpHkIIZHAq4koh9BfUo46N3WOIG95SlfuRLVxzm3WmvKV7PJKhyfdh pFoYIwB2UcAknLPJva5eFBpi1VdDAMqv9G7qQfkoJQGXNAOlmh9GKhZkeLIeqVwv qfb7Q2SjLaI= =4OyJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Russell Earl Whitaker whitaker(a)eternity.demon.co.uk Communications Editor AMiX: RWhitaker EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought Board member, Extropy Institute (ExI) Co-organizer, 1st European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy, London, 20 November 1993

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LD
by frc%bwnmr4＠harvard.harvard.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Len, Do you want to me start taking you seriously again? (I used to. You posted some great stuff.) Try signing your posts. Prove your identity. Then maybe I'll start believing that the same guy who wrote the anonymity faq is losing his marbles over spoofs. FRC -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLM2ikbbAlE4AqlTZAQFV5gP+IZE8VupNW6iJxinLlQreJAV8HWXwXyAz sUOsqLUAcN6T75iFjM+X8fprUVhQFci5Nq1IfpPLWZpOmL9TVdoBmtlSX3EFOpdB nX7aaq3FN2b0v5Rd5PAJlvY3fbSDDWRdEx6n4zI6l7Adc8+8iHeJqdpHUSjy8uak TjNJpZSNYHQ= =npG/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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DC-nets, up from the basic concept
by pierre＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A few pseudonymous questions went astray and landed in my mail box among a few others (without much of a return address too... the problems of anonymity) So I'll volunteer some possible answers, and while doing so will generate more questions :-). Others feel free to elaborate (especially thoses who HAVE read the papers) Still, no mention of detweil(er)ing will be made :-) although I will mention spoofing... 1) "PHYSICAL LAYER" =================== Q: How do you implement the idea that I can see my coin and the coin on the left, but no others? A: You use public key cryptography. You join a "table" by contacting one of the persons already at the "table". He hands you address and public key of (say) his right neighbor, and you hand him your address and your public key. Each time you "toss a coin" you encrypt it and send it to his ex right neighbor (now your right neighbor). You use the same public key protocols to send out to everybody your "different/same" vote, and collect and count everybody elses. It's easy to add and remove individuals, and you can be part of as many "tables" as you want. 2) MORE SPOOFING ================ New question: how do you make sure you are not spoofed to death, and (mis)led to join a "table" of, say, 126 personae of the same three letter entity, and Yourself. In which case, your messages are not very untraceable anymore? Not very satisfying answer: you meet in person your left AND right neighbor at least once to exchange address and keys... Any better answer? 3) GROUP RESPONSIBILITY AND HIGHER LAYERS ========================================= Q: couldn't every member of the group be implicated because they must all participate to produce the bit of information? A: No, when a "table" is established, what you have is a CSMA/CD network in the classical sense (CSMA/CD = Carrier Sense Multiple Access/ Collision Detection) just like Ethernet is one. Your "DC-net physical layer" is now very complicated, and multi-layered itself, but that only affects speed, not much else. You could (maaaybe :-( establish the layering: Coaxial - Ethernet - IP - TCP / Telnet - RFC822 email - PEM - DC-net - IP - TCP / Telnet - RFC822 email - PEM Except that now, your second layer of TCP/IP is untraceable. By the same token (sorry :-), once you have these protocols established for one "table", you can internetwork many "tables" at will. Poof! Inter-DC-net! But, boy, would the above implementations be slow :-) In any case, even though the participants of any network must cooperate for any message to go through (especially true in the case of Usenet, or FIDO, for example), it is hard to hold all the participants responsible for every message just for being part of the infrastructure. It would be different (even with todays networks), if a large proportion of the messages were CLEARLY illegal. Still, even now, it is impossible to tell whether an encrypted message's content is illegal or not (see the previous netnews discussion with respect to FIDO, mail privacy and encryption), and peeking in un-encrypted email is illegal, depending on caller contract. So I would, until contradicted by the legal types among us, consider a DC-net or Inter-DC-net no different legally, than any other cooperative network out there (Usenet, FIDO, internet...), until specifically regulated. Disclaimer: Of course, this is only a technical opinion, legal decisions may or may not consider the technical precedents :-) Reasonable technical arguments have as much weight legally as unreasonable ones (or so it seems at times) (meaning: of course, I'm not a lawuer) Pierre. pierre(a)shell.portal.com

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by fnerd＠smds.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MASSAGE------ Cpunx-- Sorry for the premature post on signatures in Mush. I looked at the sources to figure out how to use it. If you want to append a multiline signature to your messages without adding the gratuitous "\n--\n", do something like this in your .mushrc: set autosign='\-fnerd\n\ quote me' I'll pass on any other relevant tidbits I receive by email. And thanks to Eric Hughes for getting me off my butt for a bit. -fnerd quote me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a +aKxB8nktcBAQHabQP/d7yhWgpGZBIoIqII8cY9nG55HYHgvtoxiQCVAgUBLMs3K ui6XaCZmKH68fOWY ySKAzPkXyfYKnOlzsIjp2toust1Q5A3/n54PBKrUDN9tHVz 3Ch466q9EKUuDulTU6OLsilzmRvQJn0EJhzd4pht6hanC0R3seYNhUYhoJViCcCG sRjLQs4iVVM= =9wqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Enough!
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Philippe_D_Nave" writes... > Newbies : If you think that there is stature to be gained by > joining in this sorry spectacle, think again. The only > place you can gain respect by abusing someone else is a > street gang (or the U.S. Congress, perhaps). > Pretty presumptuous of you to attach a motive to my post. I don't think my post was abusive, and I didn't post it in an attempt to "gain stature". Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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How do I unsub
by Matt Harrop 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could some kind person tell me how to get myself off this list. The signal-to-noise ratio has become far to high.

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sure...
by Alexander Reynolds 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

..I'll do my best to provide you with some literature on behavior control. I've got midterms this and next week, so a more complete bibliography will have to wait for a few. One book which I can say is a good intro to the topic is B. F. Skinner's _Beyond Freedom and Dignity_. It isn't as scientifically rigorous as most psych texts I've seen, but it's a good start if you want to really pursue the topic. Hannah Arendt's _Totalitarianism_ looks a bit into the nature of behavior control from a poli sci view. There are more, and I'll create a list ASAP. Later, Alex

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CyberDesk
by DON_HENSON＠delphi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A recent article in CompuServe Magazine concerning encryption made passing mention of a Nan Atwell of CyberCorp and a product called 'CyberDesk' which gives users a single windows interface to multiple e- mail and public information systems and has a seamless hook to third- party encryption programs of the users choice. Unfortunately, the article failed to include any contact info. Does anyone know how I can contact Nan Atwell or CyberCorp? An email address would be ideal but a vox phone number, a USnail address, or even a (Yuck!) fax number would be sincerely appreciated. Please respond via private email (Don_Henson(a)delphi.com) if you can help me. Don Henson PGP key avail on server or on request

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CONFERENCE: The Security Services: Are They a Threat to Freedom?
by 1＠eternity.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Libertarian Alliance One Day Conference THE SECURITY SERVICES: ARE THEY A THREAT TO FREEDOM? Date: Sunday, 14 November, 1993 (PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS CONFERENCE IS ON A SUNDAY, AND NOT A SATURDAY AS IS OUR NORMAL PRACTICE) Admission: 5.00 pounds UK per person. By ticket only. Venue: The Jubilee Room The New Cavendish Club 44 Great Cumberland Place (entrance in Upper Berkeley Street) London W1H 8BS (Nearest tube: Marble Arch) 10.30am - 11.00am Arrival - Tea and Coffee will be served Introduction by Simon McIlwaine, Conference Chairman 11.00am - 12.00pm Brian Crozier "The Security Services and Their Role in A Free Society" 12.00 Noon - 12.30pm Discussion Brian Crozier is one of Britain's leading thinkers and writers on foreign policy and defence issues. His books include Strategy of Survival, The Rebels, A Theory of Conflict, Neo- Colonialism, The Future of Communist Power, The Minimal State and The Struggle for the Third World. His autobiography, Free Agent, was published this year and extracts were serialised in The Times. 12.30pm - 1.30 pm Lunch Break 1.30pm - 2.30pm Robin Ramsay "Unsupervised and Uncontrolled: The Problem of Security Services in a Free Society" 2.30pm - 3.00pm Discussion Robin Ramsay is editor of Lobster, Britain's premier, and highly respected journal on parapolitics, "conspiracy" and the "secret state". He is co-author of Smear: Wilson and the Secret State and has contributed to a wide range of publications, including Tribune, Open Eye, and The Times Higher Education Supplement. 3.00pm - 3.15pm Tea Break 3.15pm - 4.15pm Larry O'Hara "Searchlight Magazine: A Case Study in Secret State Media Manipulation" 4.15pm - 4.45pm Discussion Larry O'Hara is an independent researcher into fascism and the "secret state". He is currently completing his Ph.d on "The National Front, 1986-1990" at Birckbeck College. His articles include "Notes From the Underground: British Fascism 1974-1992" in Lobster and "British Fascism: The Persistence of Anti-Semitism" in Return. 4.45pm - 5.45pm Brian Micklethwait "What Should Libertarians Do About the Spies?" 5.45pm - 6.15pm Discussion Brian Micklethwait is Editorial Director of the Libertarian Alliance. He appears regularly on British television and radio on behalf of the LA as well as speaking widely at universities and political meetings. As well as his writing for the LA, he has contributed to such publications as Economic Affairs, Gay News and Ideer Om Frihet. 6.15pm Close of Conference - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me ... ticket(s) for the LA Conference "The Security Services: Are They a Threat to Freedom?" on Sunday, 14 November, at 5.00 pounds UK each. I enclose a cheque/postal order/cash payable to the Libertarian Alliance, for ...... Name: .................................................... Address: ................................................. ................................................. ............................. Tel: .............. (Useful if we have to notify you of any last minute changes) _____________________________________________________________________ Please Return by First Class Mail to: Chris R. Tame Director Libertarian Alliance 25 Chapter Chambers Esterbrooke Street London SW1P 4NN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLM0FDoTj7/vxxWtPAQGhQwQAuhIjIa11jqmRwIpb9JHQqwjaCa/3IhWH b34HfewITnM1q/lzTCdFk/YU/6cAGC+0rdinLjJcb1wadXo5wx+dyeScFr7yaEaN fAgD349hA03Xng8Wt0NLJVawPd9nguIeoslwMf6Z2m/iYa89xpfaRU/AvhUZg4lP 6A2DyUOXaI4= =F5u2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Russell Earl Whitaker whitaker(a)eternity.demon.co.uk Communications Editor AMiX: RWhitaker EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought Board member, Extropy Institute (ExI) Co-organizer, 1st European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy, London, 20 November 1993

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CONFERENCE: European Computers, Freedom & Privacy (ECFP)
by 1＠eternity.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ECFP '93: The First European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy The New Cavendish Club London, England 20th November 1993 Organised by ECFP Ventures Limited Co-operating organisations : The Libertarian Alliance Privacy International, UK UK Cryptoprivacy Association SCOPE - ---------------------------------- The widespread use of computers and communication systems has brought considerable benefits to our business and personal lives and will continue to change and shape the way in which we live. However, with those benefits come unprecedented threats to our personal privacy and potential for abuse. A variety of different models for protection of individual privacy in the electronic age have been suggested, ranging from state regulation to individual action through the use of strong cryptography. However, these solutions bring with them their own class of problems, including excessive state involvement in private matters and the frustration of law enforcement and national security objectives. The First European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy will both provide an introduction to these issues and the technological developments that drive them, and examine different ways in which individual rights can be guaranteed. These questions are central to the preservation of a free society in the Information Age. John M. Brimacombe Conference Chair KEYNOTE SPEAKER - ---------------------------------- John Gilmore Email: gnu(a)cygnus.com JOHN GILMORE is Chairman of the Board of Cygnus Support, who provide commercial support for free software. As founder and board member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Cypherpunks, he has campaigned extensively for electronic privacy. John will speak on building a society in which personal privacy is guaranteed through the use of strong cryptography. OTHER SPEAKERS - ---------------------------------- John Brimacombe (Chairman) Email: john(a)mantis.co.uk JOHN BRIMACOMBE is the Managing Director of Jobstream Group plc, developers of business software. A graduate in both law and computer science, he was an advisor to CFP '93 in San Francisco. John will serve as conference moderator. Simon Davies Email: davies(a)privint.demon.co.uk SIMON DAVIES is Director General of Privacy International and a member of the School of Law at the University of New South Wales. He will be looking at new developments in surveillance and ways of combating them. Tom Burroughes Email: tom(a)reptile.demon.co.uk (after 10 October 1993) TOM BURROUGHES is Deputy Chief Reporter with the East Anglian Daily Times in Ipswich, England. He will be giving a journalist's point of view on privacy issues, including recent incidents involving eavesdropping on cellular telephones, and the roles of various corporate and government bodies in the recent adoption of cellphone signal encryption standards in the UK. David Chaum Email: chaum(a)digicash.nl DAVID CHAUM is head of the Cryptography Group at the Center for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI) in Amsterdam, and founder of DigiCash, which develops electronic payments systems. Dr. Chaum received his Ph.D. in computer science from the University of California, Berkeley, in 1982, and joined CWI in 1984. He helped to found the International Association for Cryptologic Research and remains active on its board. David also consults internationally on cryptology. Duncan Frissell Email: frissell(a)panix.com DUNCAN FRISSELL is an attorney, technical author and consultant on matters of personal and financial privacy. Duncan will speak on "Traditional Privacy in the Electronic Age". Elaine Fletcher ELAINE FLETCHER is Assistant Solicitor for Eric James Howe, Data Protection Registrar (UK). Elaine will speak on issues arising from the Data Protection regime established under the 1984 Data Protection Act. Chris Tame CHRIS TAME is the Director of the Libertarian Alliance and Director of the smokers rights group FOREST, as well as UK representative of the Libertarian International. He has written extensively for such academic journals as /Science and Public Policy/, /Economic Affairs/, and /The Jewish Journal of Sociology/, and such books as *The Case For Private Enterprise* and *The Politics of Crime Control*. He appears regularly on radio and television in the UK. Chris will speak on the libertarian views of data protection and privacy. Russell Whitaker Email: whitaker(a)eternity.demon.co.uk RUSSELL WHITAKER, conference co-organiser, is a consultant on electronic communications, a director of ECFP Ventures Ltd and communications editor of Extropy magazine. Russell will speak on the composition of, and influences upon, the electronic community in Britain today, and how public policy affects those on computer bulletin boards and online services. PROGRAMME - --------------------------------- Registration 9.30 - 10.00 am First session 10.00 - 11.30 am BREAK 11.30 - 11.50 am Second session 11.50 am - 1.20 pm BREAK 1.20 - 2.20 pm Third session 2.20 - 3.50 pm BREAK 3.50 - 4.10 pm Fourth session 4.10 - 5.40 pm PANEL SESSION 5.40 - 6.20 pm Closing remarks 6.20 - 6.30 pm Lunchtime is the break after the second session, and lunch itself is not included in the price of the conference. There are pubs and restaurants in the immediate vicinity. Coffee, tea and biscuits will be on sale through the day, however. Registration form: - --------------------------------- NAME _____________________________________ JOB TITLE _____________________________________ ORGANISATION/AFFILIATION _________________________ ___________________________________________ MAILING ADDRESS _____________________________________ ____________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________ TELEPHONE ___________________________________________ FAX ___________________________________________ E-MAIL ___________________________________________ IMPORTANT NOTE: only *fully* completed forms with full telephonic details will be accepted, to be used in the event of any emergency changes, such as change of venue. This is not optional. CLASS OF REGISTRATION : [Prices are Pounds Sterling] Student 10.00 ($16.00 U.S.) Normal 17.50 ($28.00 U.S.) Normal before 1 Nov 93: 15.00 ($24.00 U.S.) Press (Contact for arrangements) MEANS OF PAYMENT: - U.S. cheques/cash - U.K. cheques/cash - EuroCheques (tm) Unfortunately, due to bank conversion charges, we are unable to accept cheques drawn on other overseas accounts, for payment of this year's attendance fees. PROCEEDINGS AND AUDIO/VIDEOGRAPHY - ------------------------------------------- You may pre-order copies of transcripts of the proceedings, which will be shipped within 90 days after the conference: "Please send me ____ copies of the conference proceedings at 20 pounds each." Video and audio recordings will be made of the conference, in its entirety. No pre-sales will be made; tapes go on sale in December 93/January 94. Cheques, made payable to "ECFP Ventures Limited", should be sent with this form to : 16 Circus Road MM Box 8593 London NW8 6PG England Please direct any further enquiries to the above address, or: ecfp-1st(a)eternity.demon.co.uk (Email) +44 81-812-2661 (Manned message service; quick response) HOW TO FIND THE NEW CAVENDISH CLUB : - ---------------------------------------------- The New Cavendish Club is 2 minutes walk from Marble Arch Underground station. Immediately turn right as you exit from the station onto Oxford Street. Then take the first turning on the right, i.e. Great Cumberland Street. The New Cavendish Club is 3 blocks north on the northeast corner of the intersection of Great Cumberland Street with Upper Berkeley Street. Address: New Cavendish Club 44 Great Cumberland Place London W1H 8BS - ----- Text ends --------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLKjhjYTj7/vxxWtPAQGjQAP+NW1LOc806i0c3MmA2RiluzWmDKvFEPPm ibtU3tbqqF93fb0lqJ/z1q8DEtWeiG6LnLQ41IasIHDL6o7EmZEWXN6G17CDFLSk cQHCGaIpC9BkBI8VwnsPZIlItL5T+TkcOwLjdqp7x24tQ9uAm3BhpFLGMfLJAnwB xI/ZG0zMEIs= =QElR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Russell Earl Whitaker whitaker(a)eternity.demon.co.uk Communications Editor AMiX: RWhitaker EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought Board member, Extropy Institute (ExI) Co-organizer, 1st European Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy, London, 20 November 1993

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CPSR Crypto Resolution
by Dave Banisar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CPSR Crypto Resolution CPSR Cryptography Resolution Adopted by the CPSR Board of Directors, San Francisco, CA October 18, 1993 WHEREAS, Digital communications technology is becoming an increasingly significant component of our lives, affecting our educational, financial, political and social interaction; and The National Information Infrastructure requires high assurances of privacy to be useful; and Encryption technology provides the most effective technical means of ensuring the privacy and security of digital communications; and Restrictions on cryptography are likely to impose significant costs on scientific freedom, government accountability, and economic development; and The right of individuals to freely use encryption technology is consistent with the principles embodied in the Constitution of the United States; and The privacy and security of digital communications is essential to the preservation of a democratic society in our information age; and CPSR has played a leading role in many efforts to promote privacy protection for new communications technologies: BE IT RESOLVED THAT Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility supports the right of all individuals to design, distribute, obtain and use encryption technology and opposes any government attempt to interfere with the exercise of that right; and CPSR opposes the development of classified technical standards for the National Information Infrastructure.

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blacknet international offers DOSSIERS for SALE
by remail＠tamsun.tamu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

blacknet international is pleased to offer the following materials for sale: DOSSIERS: on the current participants in the Cypherpunks Mailing List Flame war PRICES: Prices and delivery terms upon request via encrypted anonymous return address. SUBJECTS: Perry Metzger <pmetzger(a)lehman.com> Duncan Frissell <frissell(a)panix.com> S. Boxx <an12070(a)anon.penet.fi> L. Detweiler<ld231782(a)longs.lance.colostate.edu> Timothy C. May <tcmay(a)netcom.com> Ray Cromwell <rjc(a)gnu.ai.mit.edu> David Sternlight <strnlght(a)netcom.com> These are available now via PGP encrypted return anonymous mail. To reply to I/We please use the enclosed public key to encrypt your message back to us. The anonymous remailer encrypted return block may be used for now but if current(known to be good) paths are needed look for the latest in cypherpunks(a)toad.com. Please encrypt ALL mail sent to us... -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCNAizMFlcAAAEEALPYHDpT3OhTyO0qfEcqnbwY30pZb3ET6JUP70jfIQPiTrkA i7WJFYnDWv0FBk3aMxfH2DpI0fauCQKLnJJrc0/WHi5AgZVJh7KTwfCyAS+Zr2xM 7xjFZlwd9Q0Ow5k3hLfO4LQpTOW8IBMATV8or1g/+Zv3m87WjLgMmjAEwDypAAUR tDxibGluZHBpcGUgPHVzZSBjdXJyZW50IHJlbWFpbGVyIGJsb2NrIHBvc3RlZCB0 byBjeXBoZXJwdW5rcz4= =IHVG -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --------8<--cut here-->8-------- :: Encrypted: PGP -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.3a hEwClqx1g6tk6KcBAf9Nly0MsbjTHys9iZwvkew2KEls/4T+4uXG+Ri8gtJnA9P0 5NvGZYIU0A40CHeHWttwE+cjwVyREWWcCPUVeMqcpgAAAYWHYP4OYPHDdUFKrs1i FW2F5lMQ1m4pU475xcLJH+NqQUYToSqmTlyH5dlOLmkC0s97n2OMQKJyDkUHkIbZ nqEg42KQkjAWotu85dBuXFjgLyShkACvah/VBXYcKHMsgfO41tCbCQiWVkg022/F TheZmlX5mPj0pgLFlpd+nYYIsGcH2memKLXWuhaY4yThRPYCu5OEYBlQEE1TtQTs glC6926Nu1RHvs4ivD3OabzeLdl2Kh2wZI2IcznUKOIKhH3nsXgI9ZvuHVkrKkmw 5ABXnhj2rgWW6/SxOT6XejUKH6WHu82HBjnEi6dDviB5pnGL8D2ayxw+ySwjNZ94 lJyrGVeq40XVG4HywxUbmrSbM/a6OOvH2f5zmXQAccoj2iwWa0khPJ0kjlndV/I9 FSLeIP8BZZSHU1tA9/genoDd3auQDAregfuzA10KjVr96+TcLdlh/7eM9TfQDaPz VtCrLR+X/n2J083WtmyzbZhpeI2qzjL7YqPXNlRsofenVucl3E1k0A== =WPI/ -----END PGP MESSAGE----- <To reply, save everything below the "cut here" marks above <into another file. Type your reply here (below the blank <line three lines above!) and mail to remailer(a)utter.dis.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: anti-social behavior
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

B >ASAR stands for "alt.sexual.abuse.recovery", a newsgroup I run an B >anonymous server for. This group actually has survivors of all B >sorts of abuse, including the verbal abuse that rjc perpetrated. "Sticks and stones" etc. --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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: a desperate please
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A >I can't come up with any good ones, except for "fun" and "just to see A >what it feels like to put out opinions not my own." Virago is a "feminist" publisher in the UK. A few years ago, they brought out (to wide critical praise) a collection of short stories about immigrant life in the UK by a new Asian (means from the Indian subcontinent in the UK) woman. They had never met her and were very embarrassed when "she" turned out to be a retired, male vicar. Seems like a good idea to use a pseudonym in this case. I guess that is the use you meant about "putting out opinions not my own." Whenever I want to do that I just switch to lawyer mode. Duncan Frissell --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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ADMIN: toad.com's mail hicups Tuesday morning...
by hugh＠ecotone.toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The list mailhost, toad.com, had massive problems today with sendmail queues, resulting in load averages over 90 (on a machine where 6 is high) and other unfun problems for me to chase. To my knowledge no mail was droped on the floor, but some mail did come out of the machine with headders missing. I have no idea what the mail software thought it was doing by droping headers, but I think we will live even so. I am looking at installing some newer software to deal with the problems of today, though the root causes are solved for now, better software (sendmail) is called for. On the other hand better software is ALLWAYS called for... Guess I had better get back to doing that sort of work... ||ugh Daniel Sysadmin of the month hugh(a)toad.com

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shut up, assmunch
by nobody＠cicada.berkeley.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

don't make me slap you again, detwiler.

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