December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

DEATH TO TYRANTS
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

By the way, I don't recall it being mentioned that the message from "IRS Inspection" had an interesting subject line: DEATH TO TYRANTS. I don't know if this was on the message others received, but it was on my version. Included below are the headers. Odd that this would be used, and probably not coincidental that the famous quote has been in my most recent .sig for only a few months, and only _after_ the Bell arrest (as far as I can recall). It's unlikely the IRS "Inspectors" had any mail from me via Bell's computer(s) with this quote in it. --Tim May >Received: from you for tcmay > with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.13 1996/12/26) Fri Jul 18 19:25:02 1997 >X-From_: irsnwpr(a)net.insp.irs.gov Fri Jul 18 15:30:05 1997 >Received: from tcs_gateway1.treas.gov (tcs-gateway1.treas.gov >[204.151.245.2]) by you.got.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA28395 for ><tcmay(a)got.net>; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:29:59 -0700 >X-Real-To: <tcmay(a)got.net> >Received: by tcs_gateway1.treas.gov id AA19560 > (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for tcmay(a)got.net) > Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:36:21 -0400 >Received: by tcs_gateway1.treas.gov (Internal Mail Agent-2); > Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:36:21 -0400 >Received: by tcs_gateway1.treas.gov (Internal Mail Agent-1); > Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:36:21 -0400 >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:18:35 -0400 >From: IRS Inspection <irsnwpr(a)net.insp.irs.gov> >Message-Id: <199707171618.MAA02670(a)net.insp.irs.gov> >To: Interested-Parties(a)net.insp.irs.gov >Subject: DEATH TO TYRANTS > > > > United States Attorney > Western District of Washington > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >July 18, 1997 > >JAMES D. BELL PLEADS GUILTY TO OBSTRUCTING THE IRS AND USING FALSE SOCIAL >SECURITY NUMBERS .... There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: IRS sending warning notes, violating ECPA?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Paul Bradley wrote: > > > It certainly appears that the IRS has sent "warnings" out to all of us > > active in the debate. > The way I see it there are two possible ways the motherfuckers got the > addresses, either they found the lists Jim subscribed to and did "who > cypherpunks" etc. to the servers, to get the list of participants, or > they used any adresses off the mail jim has recieved in the past, I got a > copy of it and I have privately emailed Jim several times so I can`t > really say which is more likely. > > If it is the second I am hereby giving Jim a public dresssing down for > not encrypting the filesystem ;-).... Paul, I spoke to the judge in the case and he has agreed that your "dressing down" of Jim is a far more severe sentence than anything he could impose, so he is turning Jim loose this afternoon. Seriously... Your comments reminded me why I read the PRZ's PGP manual/intro every now and again to refresh my memory/paranoia about security issues. Perhaps the hardest part of maintaining secure communications and personal privacy is remembering that, no matter how tight you run your own ship, you are, to a certain extent, "married" to the people with whom you communicate. And, to use an AIDS analogy, you are also "married" to everyone they have slept with. Perhaps you would trust "mom" with your life. However, what if the ever-present "they" threatened to kill all of her other children unless she ratted you out? The answer to this question doesn't matter if you have used cryptography and/or anonymity in a manner that doesn't leave you vulnerable to anyone else. Even if mom would never 'rat you out' under any circumstances, does she have the knowledge and discipline needed to keep "them" from being able to access your communications with her? The bottom line is that one should "err" on the side of safety. Being _too_ paranoid is less costly than not being paranoid enough. Tim May's rants are not done in ignorance. He understands the legal differences between saying "The criminals in D.C. _should_ be nuked.", and saying, "I _am_going_to_ nuke the criminals in D.C., someday." (Friday, at 4 o'clock.) I am certain that Tim is well aware that, even if he is right about his statements being Constitutionally protected free speech, there is always the chance that he could suffer grief or imprisonment for them( quite simply because "the criminals" are getting more profecient at subverting and destroying the rights protected by the Constitution). I am just as certain that Tim has made a conscious decision as to what level of risk he is willing to take to speak his mind and perhaps make a difference in the events of his time, without merely being egoistical, stupid, and suicidal. Kent Crispin, when he's not being just plain ignorant, sometimes manages to raise valid issues that serve as a counter-point to Tim's views, but the bottom line is that, in the presence of two other world-leaders who are privy to the mountains of information that is kept hidden from the public by their governments, Jean Chretien, the Prime Minister of Canada, openly stated that the politicians in the U.S. would be imprisoned as criminals in most countries. It's true. Currently, Saskatchewan politicians are being prosecuted for what would be considered "nickle and dime" matters in the U.S. (e.g. <$1,000 wrongful use of expense accounts). In the U.S., the S&L scandal involved _billions_ of dollars in fraud and thievery and only a few of the really stupid bit-players got thrown to the wolves. In short, when you communicate with anyone, it is your own responsibility to limit the level of your future vulnerability. If you think that it's OK to post a message to the list saying, "I'm going to nuke D.C. on Friday, at 4 p.m. Shhh! Don't tell anybody.", then go for it. (But keep in mind that some people just can't keep a secret.) TruthMonger

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Re: R.I.P Jim Bell
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Duvos wrote the stuff appended to this post: Mike, I found this post either really funny or really scary. Maybe both. TruthMonger ----------- > Duncan Frissell <frissell(a)panix.com> writes: > > > I'll be curious to see what kind of deal he got. It had > > better be an awfully good one (say "time served"). If not > > he was as dumb as toast. > > Let's hope it was not the "8 years" I heard on the evening news, > although I didn't catch whether that was just a possible > sentence, or the results of the plea bargain negotiations. > > > He had a perfect chance to rake the Feds over the > > coals and try nasty disfavored defenses like > > Selective Prosecution. Hard to win that one but > > he had as good a case as any one I've seen for > > that defense. At the most, he would have gotten a > > short sentence if convicted. Big deal. > > Perhaps. But he would have been tried in the media, and would > probably have been transformed into "Terrorist Jim Bell" at the > hands of the spin masters. In the end, even if he won in court, > he would have been about as popular as OJ, and the entire > population of America would have learned to live their lives in > constant fear of smelly organic chemicals and nickel-plated > carbon fibers. Parents would be mail-ordering carbon fiber test > kits to use in their childrens' rooms. > > > Since he was apparently not doing a great deal with his > > life in any case, he could have used it for some good. Make > > the Feds spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on him and > > tie up their resources. > > I would certainly try to make any such harrassment of me as > expensive as possible for those engaging in it. On the other > hand, Bell does have living relatives, which makes unilateral > nose-thumbing at the state apparatus more risky. > > > Prison is no punishment for those who like to read and write. > > Being bossed around by assholes is always annoying, regardless of > ones academic interests. > > > In these political cases where the Feds are clearly > > overreaching, those who don't plead do much better than > > those who do. This is the reverse of the situation in > > normal criminal cases. > > Tell that to Robert "ream me again, please" Thomas of Amateur > Action BBS fame, who wasn't even accused of being a potential > terrorist, much less of trying to overthrow the entire > government. > > > Don't plead in political cases. It's stupid. > > Don't plead in political cases like Steve Jackson Games, PROMIS, > Operation Sun Devil, etc... On the other hand, if you are > accused of being one of the actual Four Horsemen, and the feds > are holding press conferences on every channel with inflammatory > voice-over editorials describing the alleged contents of your > dwelling, some capitulation to the Barbarians may be necessary. > > There are a number of adages which apply to this situation, > amongst them... > > Don't get involved in fights you can't win. > > When you aim for the King, shoot to kill. > > The goal of war is not to die for your country, but to make > sure the enemy dies for theirs. > > etc... > > Enumerating Bell's violations of these common sense principles is > left as an exercise to the reader. > > -- > Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ > enoch(a)zipcon.com $ via Finger $ > {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}

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Re: DEATH TO TYRANTS
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >By the way, I don't recall it being mentioned that [my] message from "IRS >Inspection" had an interesting subject line: DEATH TO TYRANTS. The six other headers received or forwarded here have the same subject: "Something of Interest." Further, Tim's message is so far the earliest of the batch: 12:18 compared to the next at 12:25 which went to a mail list based in Norway. Others followed at about 1 minute intervals, the last at 12:33. See the full headers at: http://jya.com/irs-header.txt BTW, Declan, did you not once write that IRS offices are down the corridor from yours? If so, would you care to ask the thieves their opinion of the spam, especially if they are the authors, sneaking into your box and lifting lists while you're sipping and baseballing with the brokers? Cite me as inquring an CU-FU, if you prefer to keep reportorial distance. Write up spam story, do, providing that you're up to snuff paying Crispin-bandit extortion.

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House crypto-vote echoes classified briefing (plus: COWS!)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:43:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship-announce(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: House crypto-vote echoes classified briefing (plus: COWS!) Another House panel approved the SAFE encryption bill Tuesday afternoon after a tense debate, capped by the surprise testimony of a phalanx of law enforcement lobbyists who appeared at what was scheduled to be a straightforward vote. The International Relations committee rejected 22-13 an amendment that would gut the generally pro-crypto measure by returning complete control over crypto-exports to the president, then passed the SAFE bill unchanged. In the process, the committee replayed an off-the-record debate that took place on June 26 at a classified briefing in the Capitol. The 64-page transcript of last month's hearing, now redacted and declassified, reveals the same tension between law enforcement and national security lobbyists and two SAFE backers: Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va) and Rep. Lofgren (D-Ca). Much of the talk at the classified briefing centered around how to coerce Americans -- and more importantly, high tech firms -- to adopt and use a "key recovery infrastructure" that would allow the government to have ready access to the secret keys used for encryption and decryption. Bill Reinsch, Commerce Department undersecretary, said, "The question is, how do we get there? We were trying to get there through export controls. That may or may not be the best way. Arguably import control might be the better way, but nobody wants to do import controls, and they are off the map." Rep. Howard Berman (D-Ca) suggested banning unapproved encryption altogether: "Why don't you treat it like heroin or something?" Replied FBI Director Louis Freeh: "Within the administration there have been long and not harmonious discussions about what approach is more requisite. The law enforcement components perhaps have more immediate view, and that debate is pretty much over within the administration..." Then Reinsch complained that Microsoft wasn't playing ball with the administration: "They appear not to believe that key recovery is the way of the future." (I don't make this stuff up, folks.) He wasn't the only one to sound an Orwellian note. The NSA's Crowell said, "There is a need for an instrument, just like the FCC has. When you get a garage door opener, it is licensed so you will not turn on your neighbor's TV with the garage door opener. There is a need for a licensing process xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx." The rest of his statement is gone from the transcript, crossed out by the thick, eager pens of government censors. This is why reading redacted documents is always a nerve-wracking experience: you feel like you're being teased with not enough information. That also happened this afternoon. I've never seen lobbyists as nervous as they were today before the International Relations committee met for the SAFE vote. Everyone expected the chair of the committee, Rep. Benjamin Gilman (R-NY), to introduce amendments that would tilt the bill to favor national security, but how would they be phrased? Nobody knew. Why was the hearing postponed three times -- was it official House business, or last-minute deal-cutting? And why was Clipper Chip proponent James Kallstrom, assistant director of the FBI, sitting in the front row -- would he testify as an unscheduled administration expert? In the end, of course law enforcement and national security advocates launched a full-court press -- and lost. Gilman, the committee chair, introduced an amendment that would gut the generally pro-crypto SAFE bill by returning complete control over crypto-exports to the president. Industry groups and civil libertarians denounced it (correctly) as nullifying SAFE. It would be just as bad, and arguably worse, than Congress not passing any bill in the first place. Worse yet, they said, Gilman cloaked his amendment in "national security" language that would appeal to members of his committee who are used to approving such measures. Then there were the cows. Again, I'm not making this up. Apparently if a cow is out of the barn, it no longer makes sense to shut the barn door to prevent any more cows from leaving. (I can't attest to this personally. Perhaps cows have an inherent sense of occasion.) "Do we open the doors to let all the cows out?" asked one committee member. The FBI's Kallstrom rebutted: "There are many, many still left inside the barn." No, said Lofgren. "The cows are tromping all over America. Cows can replicate. They're being born all over the world. There's plenty of beef available!" SAFE now moves to three more committees simultaneously: Commerce, National Security, and Intelligence, which have until early September to vote on the bill. Since the Clinton administration lobbyists met with a bitter defeat in the International Relations committee, expect them to use the August recess to redouble their lobbying attempts. They may concentrate hardest on House Rules committee members, who will be tasked with reconciling any amendments to SAFE. Yet even after today's vote, the overall encryption outlook in Congress remains dismal. SAFE's companion bill in the Senate, ProCODE, is dead and gutted. It's been replaced with the McCain-Kerrey bill, which is pro-key escrow legislation that the administration supports. And, most importantly, the president has said he'll veto any pro-crypto bill that comes across his desk... --- Gilman's amendment offered today: NATIONAL SECURITY EXCEPTION -- Notwithstanding any other provision of this subsection, the President shall have the authority to regulate, including through the approval or denial of licenses or other means deemed appropriate, the export or reexport of encryption items, including hardware and software with encryption capabilities, if the President find that the export of such items would adversely affect the national security. National security shall include, but not be limited to, the ability of law enforcement agencies, including Federal, State, and local agencies, to combat espionage, terrorism, illicit drugs, kidnapping, or other criminal acts, or otherwise would involve the potential for loss of human life. --- Excerpt from Secretary of Defense William Cohen's letter to Congress, dated July 21, 1997: It is also important to note that the Department of Defense relies on the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the apprehension and prosecution of spies. Sadly, there have been over 60 espionage convictions of federal employees over the last decade. While these individuals represent a tiny minority of government employees, the impact of espionage activities on our nation's security can be enormous. As the recent arrests of Nicholson, Pitts, and Kim clearly indicate, espionage remains a very serious problem. Any policies that detract from the FBI's ability to perform its vital counterintelligence function, including the ability to perform wiretaps, inevitably detract from the security of the Department of Defense and the nation... Encryption legislation must also address the nation's domestic information security needs. Today, approximately 95% of DoD communications rely on public networks; other parts of government, and industry, are even more dependent on the trustworthiness of such networks. Clearly, we must ensure that encryption legislation addresses these needs. An approach such as the one contained in S.909 can go a long way toward balancing the need for strong encryption with the need to preserve national security and public safety. I hope that you will work with the Administration to enact legislation that addresses these national security concerns as well as the rights of the American people... --- More info: http://pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1022,00.html http://pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,931,00.html http://www.jya.com/declan3.txt http://www.jya.com/declan2.txt http://www.jya.com/declan1.txt http://www.well.com/~declan/fc/ ###

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17 Dec '03

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Jim Bell Docket 3
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've updated Jim Bell's court docket to show July 18 entries for the plea agreement: http://jya.com/jimbell-dock2.htm It lists a waiver of indictment, a plea agreement "filed under seal" and a hearing for sentencing set for October 17. Jim's remanded to jail until then, making a total of five months of time served since arrest. Consider that everyone in the case is supported by the tax-extortion Jim was fighting. The Federal/Community Defender program is bribed at $308,000,000 for FY 1998. Keep up this self-serving banditry, you millions of members of Crispin's extortion-by-law-mil/gov big-gun-show world, and reap what you sow.

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Assume your goal is to get 10 people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet could EASILY get a better response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR BUILDING ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 10 downline members. Follow this example for the STAGGERING results below. 1st level -- 10 members with $5 ($5 x 10) $50 2nd level -- 10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100) $500 3rd level -- 10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1,000) $5,000 4th level -- 10 members from those 1,000 ($5 x 10,000) $50,000 THIS TOTALS --> $55,550 Remember friends, this is assuming that the people who participate only recruit 10 people each. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone got 20 people to participate! Some people get 100's of recruits! THINK ABOUT IT! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and email is FREE!!! REPORT#3 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing and purchasing email lists. REMEMBER: Approx. 50,000 new people get online monthly! ORDER YOUR REPORTS NOW!!! *******TIPS FOR SUCCESS******* TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY, so you will have them when the orders start coming in because: When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested product/report to comply with the U.S. Postal & Lottery Laws, Title 18, Sections 1302 and 1341 or Title 18, Section 3005 in the U.S. Code, also Code of Federal Regs. vol. 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state that "a product or service must be exchanged for money received." * ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. * Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the instructions exactly the results WILL undoubtedly be SUCCESS! * ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN SUCCEED! *******YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINE******* The check point that guarantees your success is simply this: You MUST receive 10 to 20 orders for REPORT #1! THIS IS A MUST! If you don't within two weeks, advertise more and send out more programs until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2. If you don't, advertise more and send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100, or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because you will be on your way to the BANK! -OR- You can DOUBLE your efforts! REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list you are in front of a DIFFERENT report, so you can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by what report people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY!!! NOTE: IF YOU NEED HELP with starting a business, registering a business name, how income tax is handled, etc., contact your local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal agency) for free help and answers to questions. Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and free seminars about business taxes. ******* T E S T I M O N I A L S ******* This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it won't work, you'll lose a lot of money. I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow Christian and are in financial trouble like I was, consider this a sign. I DID! Good Luck & God Bless You, Sincerely, Chris Johnson P.S. Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,500) looks like piled up on the kitchen table?...IT'S AWESOME! My name is Frank. My wife Doris and I live in Bel-Air, MD. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Doris about receiving "junk mail"! I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Doris totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was stunned. I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work...I AM a believer now. I have joined Doris in her "little" hobby. I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me...We owe it all to MLM. Frank T., Bel-Air, MD I just want to pass along my best wishes and encouragement to you. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. I even checked with the U.S. Post Office to verify that the plan was legal. It definitely is! IT WORKS!!! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC This is the only realistic money-making offer I've ever received. I participated because this plan truly makes sense. I was surprised when the $5.00 bills started filling my mail box. By the time it tapered off I had received over 8,000 orders with over $40,000 in cash. Dozens of people have sent warm personal notes too, sharing the news of their good fortunes! It's been WONDERFUL. Carl Winslow Tulsa, OK The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. Initially I let no one in the organization know that I was an attorney and, to my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Sincerely yours, Phillip A. Brown This plan works like GANG-BUSTERS!! So far I have had 9,735 total orders OVER $48,000!!! I hope I have sparked your own excitement, if you follow the program exactly, you could have the same success I have, if not better. Your success is right around the corner, but you must do a little work. Good Luck! G. Bank Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. Boy I was surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders. After that it got so over-loaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this deal is that it doesn't matter where in the U.S. the people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return. Mary Rockland, Lansing, MI I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another program...11 months passed then it came...I didn't delete this one!...I made $41,000 on the first try!! D. Wilburn, Muncie, IN This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and quite soon we will buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Remember, when you order your four reports, SEND CASH. Checks have to clear the bank and create too many delays. Good luck and happy spending! Charles Fairchild, Spokane, WA Typically when I look at a money-making deal I want to know if the company is strong, will it be here when it's time for my big pay off. In this crazy thing there is no company intervention for management to blow it. Just people like me ordering directly from the source! Interesting...I had a couple of projects I'd been trying to fund to no avail so I thought; Why not give it a try? Well 2 1/2 weeks later the orders started coming in. One project is funded and I'm sure the other will be soon! Marilynn St. Claire, Logan, UT ==================================================== We could be printing YOUR testimonial next!!! ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED DOWN THE ROAD TO YOUR FINANCIAL FREEDOM!!! </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3>

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REFFERAL REWARDS ( NOT CLUBPIX )
by promotions＠web-promotions.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message has been sent by Web-Promotions.Com and adheres to all North American laws pertaining to Bulk Email. If you would like to be removed from future mailings please respond back to the sending address and put REMOVE in the SUBJECT BOX. Placing the word remove in any other area of the email may go unnoticed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Attention Adult Webmaster: We Want YOU To Be A Part of US! This is NOT a Click Thru Program, nor a Limited Money Making MLM Program! This is YOUR opportunity to get what you deserve! REFERRAL REWARDS!!!!!! WEG Inc. has designed a referral program that rewards the Adult Webmasters for their hard work and dedication to their site. This program has been in operation since mid April to a select few and is now ready for full operation and distribution. Payment references from some bigger adult webmasters that are involved in the program are available upon request! Here's How It Works: Basically our program allows you to promote our site but you the webmaster receives your own link, with your own assigned script code. The script code is how we determine who's signup is who's! So in reality you can consider it your site, it's just that you don't have to waste your time and energy updating material, buying material, and maintenance of your site! Not to mention bandwidth costs! We do all the grunt work! Heres what you get: For every signup, you receive 40% commission. We charge a retail of $19.95 per signup, per month. So that gives you a net of $7.98 per signup. Now here's where it really gets good... RECURRING REVENUE!!!!!! That's right, the webmaster not only receives the initial commission of $7.98 (40%), but they also get the recurring revenue. So every month for each referral that has signed up and stays a member you keep getting the recurring billing - $7.98 (40%). ALL COMMISSIONS ARE PAID OUT WEEKLY!!! All webmasters will receive a check every week for what ever commission is owed to their account. Doesn't matter if you had 1 signup for that weekly pay period. You get a check every week! 900 ACCESS SIGNUPS TOO! We have the ability to assign each webmaster that signs up to our program their own 900 Access number. But the problem we run into is that we have to pay $10 per 900 number. It doesn't sound like much, but when you have over 100 people involved in the program and some people are doing signups and some aren't, it doesn't make sense to order a whole bunch of 900 lines and they won't even be utilized. So this is what we have decided to do. We will use one universal 900 number. If you had 10 credit card signups for the one week pay period and all webmasters combined had 100 signups, your cut of the 900 revenue will be 10%. If you are absolutely serious with our program and feel you will warrant the need for your own 900 Access number, we will assign your account your own personal 900 number free of charge. ONLINE STATS Online stats are available to each Referral Rewards member. So you will always be able to check your stats. STOP WASTING YOUR TRAFFIC!!! So what are you waiting for? Start maximizing your traffic today! Sign up to our Referral Rewards program and start collecting the revenue you truly deserve. Signup Page http://www.weginc.com/referral/signup.html Referral Rewards Main Site and More Info http://www.weginc.com/referral/ If you should have any questions, please feel free to email us at rewards(a)900.net. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message has been sent by Web-Promotions.Com and adheres to all North American laws pertaining to Bulk Email. If you would like to be removed from future mailings please respond back to the sending address and put REMOVE in the SUBJECT BOX. Placing the word remove in any other area of the email may go unnoticed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Jim Bell Docket 3
by CST Administration Dept 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Consider that everyone in the case is supported by the tax-extortion Jim >was fighting. The Federal/Community Defender program is bribed at >$308,000,000 for FY 1998. > When doesn't the government get big bucks? I mean look at what they did to us soldiers? Congress gave themselves a 6.8% payraise in 1 (one) year, and gave us a 2.6% pay raise spread across 3 (three)! >Keep up this self-serving banditry, you millions of members of Crispin's >extortion-by-law-mil/gov big-gun-show world, and reap what you sow. We all know that the very seeds of civil rebellion that fueled the civil war and others of that caliber across the globe are now present in the U.S once again. Believe you me, they will reap what they sow. They caused it. They can deal with it. The only thing I have to say to them is.. "Don't expect me to help clean it up. I will not fire on my fellow countrymen, except in the defense of my family!" So, don't worry. Their day is coming, far quicker than they realize.

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Force is not physical
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

elton(a)sybase.com: > "Rule", or "political ... control" are only ever exercised through force. > People keep using that word, "enforce", without looking carefully at it. "Force" is not necessarily physical and cannot be equated solely with the monopoly over guns. This whole thing started in the context of governance in cyberspace. In cyberspace, if you loose your net connection, right to post, read whatever, you're dead. You could be 'killed' by a coalition of system providers, or a 'government monopoly'. You _will_ follow the rules, won't you? The point of this discussion was a model government for cyberspace (and here the sense of 'governance' is administration), and its possible extension to brickspace. It is not true that cyberspace is invincible, that the Net can't be tamed and all that rot. The Internet cannot be censored as long as a part of it exists. The money, power and intention could destroy it completely, which would of course be foolish in the extreme. Assuming that it survives, 'untamed', how is it to be run, and how will it affect the way the rest of our lives are run? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "Clean the air! clean the sky! wash the wind! rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in take stone from stone and wash them..." Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Re: Government and Repression
by Rachel_P._Kovner＠gorgias.ilt.columbia.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>In most of the world, indiscipline and bad behavior in the >prison will get you beaten, unofficially in Australia, officially >in Japan. (Yes, *corporal punishment*, gasp, oh the horror). Umm, minor point, but just for my personal clarification, are you sure there's corporal punishment in Japan? I seem to remember that during this whole Singapore thing, Japan was often raised as a model of a society with Singaporean crime rates and no corporal punishment. Rk ---------------------------------------------- Delivered by the NLTL Internet Gateway

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(Fwd) Re: Problems with anonymous escrow 2--response
by blancw＠pylon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by solman(a)MIT.EDU The skills of an entity without any reputation capital are absolutely worthless. But usually an anonymous entity will come around brandishing all sorts of certifications (reputation capital). .......................................................... Well, I was thinking that certifications & reputations wouldn't mean all that much to me, nor either knowing or being unfamiliar with someone's identity (or pseudonymousness). I would be more convinced with a demo. Something which could demostrate facility or ability would be more valuable to me than a second-hand proof. I realize some professions cannot provide such demonstrations, but I myself would rather have a way of making decisions based on the excercise of first-hand judgement whenever possible. This anonymity/identity and certification/reputation business appears something like trying to have one's cake and eat it, too, as the expression goes. A featureless landscape with remote associations to actual substance so as to both please the aloof-ers & appease the uncertain. It's a bit paradoxical that for every method which is found by which to hide, another method is found by which to reveal what was heretofore undetectable in Nature. While scientists push back the envelope & reveal what was previously 'invisible' to our eyes, others work to effect stealth techniques against the tools of Consciousness. Kind of strange, though interesting. Blanc

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Odds and Ends (Books) (fwd) Re: Books: wanted to buy
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article p00122(a)psilink.com, "BSW Gateway" <p00122(a)psilink.com> () writes: >I am searching for two out-of-print books. I would like to purchase one >copy each in reasonably good condition. If you have either and are willing >to part with it, please contact me by email. Thanks. > >Tutorial: The Security of Data in Networks >by Davies >IEEE Computer Society Press, 1981 > >Kahn on Codes >by Kahn >Macmillan, 1983 > >Note: the second book is NOT "The Codebreakers" but a later book by Kahn. I tried e-mail but the message is bouncing around like a kangaroo on certain controlled substances. The following is a list of bookstores dealing, more or less specifically with espionage and intelligence and include some coverage of crypto. My recommendation for the first title would be to try Elm. If you contact C&D, ELM, or NIBC, mentioning my name _might_ help. Alec Chambers Cloak and Dagger Books, 9 Eastman Avenue Bedford, NH 03110-6701 Phone: (603) 668-1629 (evenings) Proprietor: Dan Halpin Jr. Dealer in out of print and rare books relating to nonfiction espionage, crypto, terrorism and partisan and guerilla warfare. Stocks more than 10,000 books and will do searches. Dan is extraordinarily amiable and helpful, but does ask that you send $2.50 for a catalog. I have dealt happily with him for some time. Elm Spy Books, P.O.Box 9753 Arnold, MD 21012 Phone: (301) 544-9014. Proprietor: Emil Levine Has a coverage similar to Cloak and Dagger, but is interested in specializing in crypto (he's not too far from Ft. George mmmmmmmfff...). Another helpful individual with whom I have dealt. Catalog costs $2.00. Military Bookman, 29 East 93rd Street New York, NY 10128. Mail Order (212) 348-1280 Large collection of military titles, including military intelligence. Catalogs available National Intelligence Book Center, 1700 K Street NW, Suite 607 Washington DC Phone: (202) 785-4334 FAX: (202) 331-7456 e-mail: 70346.1166(a)COMPUSERVE.COM Publishes an annotated, bimonthly publication, Surveillant: Acquisitions for the Intelligence and Security Professional, listing new books, paperback editions, foreign language titles, US government documents on intelligence, video, and audio tapes, forthcoming books and works in progress, and news and events. Annual subscription is $96 in the U.S. The Book Center will also compile bibliographies on _specific_ intelligence on request. All sales are now conducted through Olsson's Books, 1200 F Street, NW, Washington DC 20004 (202) 337-8084. Q.M.Dabney&Co., 11910-P Parklawn Drive, Rockville, MD 20852 Phone (301) 881-1470 Very large military collection with some intelligence titles. Carries only out-of-print books. Not a browsing bookstores, phone orders only, catalogs available. I have dealt happily with them for years although they are SLOW on actually sending the stuff out. Ruth Koffsky Books, 5515 Greystone Street, Chevy Chase, MD 20815 Phone: (301) 656-5587 Specializes in ex-library and reader's copies of works on intelligence, politics, and world affairs. Open by appointment only or by mail. Upon request will send a list of titles on a very specific topic. Sidney Kramer Books, 1825 I Street, NW Washington, DC 20006. Mail order: (202) 293-2685 Fax: (202) 835-9756 Large collection of intelligence-related titles in sections on "intelligence," "military affairs," and "regional studies." Offers catalogs and will special order. Sky Books, 48 E. 50th Street, Second Floor, New York, NY 10022 Mail Order: (212) 688-5086. Large selection of titles on military intelligence and espionage. Offers book club with selection of intelligence titles.

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Random Numbers
by Mike Ingle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

an31185(a)anon.penet.fi writes: >So, it sounds like what we *really* need is a little box with a shot-noise >generator that attaches to a serial port and generates truly random >numbers to use for the key. Anyone out there feel like designing one >for us? That sounds doable. Tune a radio to a spot where there is static, plug it into the audio in port of a SoundBlaster card, sample a few Kbytes, and MD5 it to get your key. Nobody is going to reconstruct that. < MikeIngle(a)delphi.com > P.S. Has anyone called Mykotronx lately? I called a while ago and asked for any databooks and appnotes on Clipper. They said the databooks weren't ready yet, and offered to put me on a mailing list for appnotes when they were ready. I got the impression Mykotronx isn't too happy about the status of the Clipper/Spooktap project. :-)

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Re: caching scripts
by George A. Gleason 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

filler messages.... Little Jack Horner sat in the corner decrypting a long email letter. The letter was dull but the humorous "null" that it ended with made him feel better! -gg

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Digital noise
by I am not a number. I am an unbound variable. 16-Sep-1993 0950 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy Newsham writes: >Last time I was fingering through an analog parts catalog under the >telephony section I noticed a bunch of parts that generate audio-noise. >Maybe some of these would be suitable (if they dont use an internal >digital state machine to generate the noise). Unfortunately, last time I checked, they used a fairly short internal PRNG to generate the "noise" (which means it's not noise at all, it's completely correllated and repeating, it just _sounds_ like noise to a human ear. To get real random noise, try using a transistor "backwards", as a zener diode. Then look at the voltage- it's quite "noisy", esp. if you use a decent-sized series resistor (try 100Kohms). -Bill (done this before)...

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Re: Digital noise
by freeman＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> To get real random noise, try using a transistor "backwards", as a > zener diode. Then look at the voltage- it's quite "noisy", esp. if you > use a decent-sized series resistor (try 100Kohms). When I was in graduate school, a colleague built a gadget based on this principle as a source of Poisson-distributed pulses for testing the post-detector electronics of X-ray and extreme-ultraviolet astronomical instruments. I don't remember the precise source of the noise, but it was similar to the "zener" trick cited in that it was based on quantum phenomena rather than a mathematical generator. The idea was to get random pulses of varying amplitudes, amplify them up and use only those bigger than a threshold to generate output pulses. The instrument also averaged the output rate and used it via feedback to adjust the amplifier, so as to obtain a desired average rate of outputs. I think that for a while at least there was a commercial random-noise generator available that used this principle, though I don't remember whose (and it's been long enough that it probably doesn't matter). Try scientific-instrument catalogs, et cetera. -- Jay Freeman

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Re: Random Numbers
by cme＠ellisun.sw.stratus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 02:38:26 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mike Ingle <MIKEINGLE(a)delphi.com> >Subject: Random Numbers >Message-Id: <01H300QM3KUI8ZG7IN(a)delphi.com> > >That sounds doable. Tune a radio to a spot where there is static, plug it >into the audio in port of a SoundBlaster card, sample a few Kbytes, and >MD5 it to get your key. Nobody is going to reconstruct that. A poster a while back on sci.crypt pointed out that if you plug nothing in to the audio input (eg., /dev/audio on a Sun), what you get is circuit noise. If you then compress it, you get pretty good random input. It's not something someone else can monitor or interfere with. If you then pull off some bits for encryption keys and encrypt the rest using those keys, .... I have a small C program to do that -- do any left-over compression and build a shell script to drive IDEA for encryption. It's avbl by mail if anyone wants it. If enough want it, I'll post it on sci.crypt. > < MikeIngle(a)delphi.com > [p.s.] > I got the impression Mykotronx isn't too happy about the status >of the Clipper/Spooktap project. :-) Yeah? Do tell. What did they say?

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Re: Random Numbers
by mjr＠TIS.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I admit I'm guilty of being somewhat ignorant of how PGP implements randseed.bin. My experience with PGP indicates that it's pretty well-thought-out in general, so perhaps I'm repeating the obvious. One possibility is to treat part of the random seed as if it was your secret RSA key. Systems like PEM store the RSA key encrypted on disk someplace - you could also store an encrypted random seed which you decrypt when you retrieve the secret key, use to bootstrap your PRNG, and then replace with some output from the PRNG when you're done. That way, the seed is (by definition) hidden, and an attacker is going to have much more trouble attacking your PRNG by searching your random seed space. mjr.

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Fwd: PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES (PCS) SPECTRUM AUCTION
by stig＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I thought the Cypherpunks might take an interest in this... In <9309151633.AA29877(a)essential.org>, james love wrote... > > Taxpayer Assets Project > Information Policy Note > September 15, 1993 > > > TAXPAYER ASSETS PROJECT FILES COMMENTS WITH FCC ON > PERSONAL COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES (PCS) SPECTRUM AUCTION > > On Friday September 10, 1993 the Taxpayer Assets Project > (TAP) filed comments with the Federal Communications Commission > (FCC) on the proposed auction of spectrum for Personal > Communications Services (PCS). PCS is the name for a new class > of wireless telecommunications services that industry groups > claim will generate more than $200 billion in revenue by the year > 2010. > > TAP's comments addressed two issues, the size of the > spectrum blocks to be auctioned, and the bidding methods used to > allocate the PCS licenses. > > BACKGROUND > > Congress and the Clinton Administration will use auctions to > award licenses to use new spectrum that was previously allocated > to the government and other uses. Industry groups are engaged in > intense lobbying over the terms of the auctions, which will be > designed by the FCC. A key issue is the number of licenses to be > awarded in each market. PCS Action, Inc., an industry trade > group, wants the FCC to limit the number of licenses in each > market, in order to limit "excessive" competition, that would > "marginalize" PCS services. PCS Action prefers two licenses per > market, and "certainly no more than three." PCS Action, Inc. has > also argued that large blocks of spectrum (40 Mhz) are needed for > each license for technical reasons. If the large 40 Mhz blocks > are used the FCC can award no more than 3 license per market. > > Other potential license holders or PCS competitors have > argued that much smaller spectrum blocks are technically > feasible, and would provide more post auction competition. MCI > and Bell Atlantic have filed comments with the FCC saying that 20 > Mhz blocks are adequate, and some PCS bidders have indicated that > blocks as small as 10 Mhz may be large enough. The issue of the > size of spectrum blocks is important, since it will determine the > maximum number of licenses that can be issued in each local > market. > > A second issue that has received less attention concerns the > methods used to receive revenues from winning bidders. The > government can require bidders to submit up front cash payments, > or payments over time, including royalties against future PCS > revenues. > > > > TAP COMMENTS ON THE SIZE OF PCS SPECTRUM BLOCKS > > Regarding the size of the spectrum blocks to be auctioned, > TAP said: > > The FCC should allow bidders to purchase the smallest > possible blocks of the spectrum, while providing for > mechanisms that will allow bidders to aggregate or > consolidate blocks, subject to FCC approval. . . > > By choosing the smallest possible blocks of spectrum to > auction, the FCC will assign the initial rights to use the > spectrum to a potentially large group of license holders, > who can be expected to consider a wider range on innovative > PCS services. However, some important PCS services may > require the larger bandwidth. The FCC can easily > accommodate this problem by allowing bidders to aggregate > and consolidate spectrum blocks, in order to offer higher > bandwidth services. The aggregation and consolidation of > spectrum blocks should be subject to an FCC finding that the > new allocation is in the public interest. This procedure > would allow more flexibility in determining the size of > allocation blocks with each market, and provide better > opportunities for smaller firms to bid on spectrum. > > The initial size of spectrum blocks will be an important > decision, since it is unlikely that the FCC will "split" > licenses, even if it turns out that smaller blocks are adequate > to provide useful PCS services. By beginning with the "smallest > possible blocks," the FCC can always allow license holders to > aggregate and consolidate blocks, if the larger blocks are truly > needed. This will also allow local markets to consider a wider > range of configurations, including combinations of small and > large blocks, as PCS markets develop. > > > TAP CAUTIONS AGAINST BIDDING METHODS THAT RELY EXCESSIVELY UPON > UP FRONT CASH PAYMENTS > > TAP also told the FCC the auction should not rely > excessively on up front cash payments. The federal government > can structure the payments on the license in a number of ways, > including up front cash payments, fixed payments spread out over > several years, or payments which are contingent on future cash > flows, such as royalties on future revenues or units of services > provided. > > The PCS spectrum auction will be the largest non-financial > auction held by the federal government. But the economic value > of a PCS license will depend upon a highly uncertain cash flow > over the long period of time. If the FCC auctions the licenses > to the highest cash bidders, the government will be asking firms > to pay now for the rights to enter a business that will not be > fully developed for many years. > > TAP raised two objections to excessive reliance upon up > front cash payments to auction the spectrum. First, many smaller > firms will be unlikely to raise enough cash to bid against the > larger incumbents in the telecommunications markets. Second, > bidders will discount the future "economic rents" from licenses > by a higher "discount rate" than the government's costs of > capital (the rate of interest on its bonds), leading to excessive > discounting of license revenues. > > In order to promote more competition in the auctions, and > also to increase the present value of license payments, TAP urges > the FCC to consider a bidding system that combines cash payments > with payments that are contingent upon future PCS revenues, such > as a royalty on future PCS revenues. We believe that over the > long run, the government (the taxpayers) will earn more from > royalties on a mature PCS market, than it will earn from up front > cash payments for licenses. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Taxpayer Assets Project, P.O. Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036 > v. 202/387-8030; f. 202/234-5176; internet: tap(a)essential.org > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Subscriptions to tap-info are available by sending an email > message to listserver(a)essential.org with the folowing message: > subscribe tap-info your name > --------------------------------------------------------------- ;; __________________________________________________________________________ ;; Stig(a)netcom.com netcom.com:/pub/stig/00-PGP-KEY ;; It's hard to be cutting-edge at your own pace... 32 DF B9 19 AE 28 D1 7A ;; Bullet-proof code cannot stand up to teflon bugs. A3 9D 0B 1A 33 13 4D 7F

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Government agenda on cryptography
by bart＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From the National Information Infrastructure Agenda for Action: Action: Review privacy concerns of the NII. The IITF has developed a work plan to investigate what policies are necessary to ensure individual privacy, while recognizing the legitimate societal needs for information, including those of law enforcement. The IITF has also developed a work plan to investigate how the government will ensure that the infrastructure's operations are compatible with the legitimate privacy interests of its users. Action: Review of encryption technology. In April, the President announced a thorough review of Federal policies on encryption technology. In addition, Federal agencies are working with industry to develop new technologies that protect the privacy of citizens, while enabling law enforcement agencies to continue to use court-authorized wiretaps to fight terrorism, drug rings, organized crime, and corruption. Federal agencies are working with industry to develop encryption hardware and software that can be used for this application. MUST reading I suggest. Sources for FTP: The package is available in ASCII format through both FTP and Gopher. The name of the file is "niiagenda.asc". Access information and directories are described below. FTP: Address: ftp.ntia.doc.gov Login as "anonymous". Use your email address or guest as the password. Change directory to "pub". Address: enh.nist.gov Login as "anonymous" using "guest" as the password. Address: isdres.er.usgs.gov Login as "anonymous". Use your email address or "guest" as the password. Change directory to npr. The package also may be present in a self extracting compressed file named "niiagend.exe". Remember to issue the binary command before "getting" the compressed file. I also have it here on Netcom in /u4/bart/public with read permissions set I think so it can be copied.

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Whit Diffie on satellite TV, Sept 28th
by gnu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Florida SunFlash Sunergy #7 Satellite Broadcast September 28, 1993 SunFLASH Vol 57 #14 September 1993 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 57.14 Sunergy #7 Satellite Broadcast September 28, 1993 Live Satellite Broadcast. Theme is "Cyberjockying in the 21st Century". This next Sunergy live broadcast will focus on the issues and technologies surrounding the worldwide movement of information. It will take a look at the internet, information suppliers, information retrievers and the other related resources. Discussions will also include regulation and security on the internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: the Ft. Lauderdale office will be hosting this event in our office at 500 Cypress Creek Rd West, Ft. Lauderdale 305 776 7770 12 noon to 1:45 EDT. -johnj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: sunergy(a)sun.com phone: +1 415/336-5847 If you have satellite receive capabilities and wish to downlink this program please send email to sunergy(a)sun.com. We will add your name to our alias and send the appropriate satellite and transponder information when it becomes available. ##################################### Sunergy #7 Satellite Broadcast September 28, 1993 9:00 - 10:45 am PDT Cyberjockying in the 21st Century ###################################### How will supernetworks transport you to the far reaches of the data galaxy? What is the current status of the internet and other "information highways"? What can these "highways" do for you today? This next Sunergy live broadcast will focus on the issues and technologies surrounding the worldwide movement of information. It will take a look at the internet, information suppliers, information retrievers and the other related resources. Discussions will also include regulation and security on the internet. Demonstrations will include: - a live teleconference over workstations between 3-4 geographies - sending white papers over the vertical blanking interval of a satellite signal to various sites - the use of WAIS to access information - others TBA Guests include: John Gage - Director of the Science Office, SMCC Whitfield Diffie - Distinguished Engineer, Security - SMCC Carl Malamud - President, Internet Multicasting Service Brewster Kahle - President, WAIS Inc If you wish to downlink this broadcast, please send email to sunergy(a)Sun.COM or phone the Sunergy office at +1 415/336-5847 Program is available on satellites over Europe (west, central and east), Canada, Latin America and the US. _______________________________________________________________________ Biographies: John Gage Director, Science Office Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation John Gage works for Bill Joy, the Chief Technical Officer of Sun, and is responsible for Sun's relationships with the world scientific and public policy communities, international scientific institutions and groups developing new forms of scientific research involving computing. He is on scientific and advisory panels of the United States National Science Foundation, the US Congress Office of Technology Assessment, the European institute of Technology and the United States National Academy of Sciences. He has recently been appointed to the US National Research Council Mathematical Sciences Education Board. He is a member of ACM, IEEE, SIAM, AMS, AAAS, and SMPTE. He attended the Harvard Business School and the Harvard Graduate School of Public Policy. He did doctoral work in economics and mathematics at the university of Berkeley at the same time as Bill Joy. Gage subsequently left Berkeley with Joy to start Sun in 1982. Gage is on the Board of Directors of Unicode, an industry consortium of IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Novell, Sun, GO Corporation, and others to provide multilingual capability in all world scripts for all documents and applications. _______________________________________________________________________ Carl Malamud President Internet Multicasting Service Carl Malamud is the author of seven professional reference books including STACKS (Prentice Hall), Analyzing Sun Networks (Van Nostrand Reinhold), and Exploring the Internet: A Technical Travelogue (Prentice Hall). Currently, Carl is producing the Internet Town Hall and Internet Talk Radio series for the Internet Multicasting Service and conducts research on integration of telephone systems into the Internet. ________________________________________________________________________ Whitfield Diffie Distinguished Engineer Sun Microsystems Whitfield Diffie is best known for his 1975 discovery of the concept of public key cryptography, for which he was recently awarded a Doctorate in Technical Sciences (Honoris Causa) by the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. For a dozen years prior to assuming his present position in 1991, Diffie was Manager of Secure Systems Research for Northern Telecom, functioning as the center of expertise in advanced security technologies throughout the corporation. Among his achievements in this position was the design of the key management architecture for NT's recently released PDSO security system for X.25 packet networks. Diffie received a Bachelor of Science degree in mathematics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1965. Prior to becoming interested in cryptography, he worked on the development of the Mathlab symbolic manipulation system --- sponsored jointly at Mitre and the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory --- and later on proof of correctness of computer programs at Stanford University. He is the recipient of the IEEE Information Theory Society Best Paper Award for 1979 and the IEEE Donald E. Fink award for 1981. _________________________________________________________________________ Brewster Kahle President Wide Area Information Servers, Inc. Inventor and architect of the WAIS electronic publishing system, Brewster Kahle has lead the multi-company effort to build a practical system for end-users to find and retrieve information from servers worldwide. Before this work, he helped design and build parallel supercomputers at Thinking Machines Corporation. Brewster was schooled at MIT in Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence. ********************************************************************** For information about SunFlash send mail to info-sunflash(a)Sun.COM. Subscription requests should be sent to sunflash-request(a)Sun.COM. Archives are on draco.nova.edu, ftp.uu.net, sunsite.unc.edu, src.doc.ic.ac.uk and ftp.adelaide.edu.au All prices, availability, and other statements relating to Sun or third party products are valid in the U.S. only. Please contact your local Sales Representative for details of pricing and product availability in your region. Descriptions of, or references to products or publications within SunFlash does not imply an endorsement of that product or publication by Sun Microsystems. Send brief articles (e.g. third party announcements) and include contact information (non-800#, fax #, email, etc) to: John McLaughlin, SunFlash editor, flash(a)Sun.COM. +1 305 351 4909

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CSSPAB meeting of September 1 and 2.
by Peter Wayner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm sorry that this is so late, but I got backed up doing too many other things. Feel free to go to the anonymous mailers and post sarcastic remarks, straight-forward discussions or other comments. --Peter ----------------------- Here's my report from what I saw attending the Computer System Security and Privacy Advisory Board meeting on September 1st and 2nd in Baltimore, MD. This group is a Congressionally chartered organization with the responsibity to render advice on questions of cryptography and computer security. It's members are made up of people from government and industry. One member must be a representative from the National Security Agency. The meeting this time was at the Hyatt in Baltimore and there were several differences between this meeting and the last two which were held at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Gaithersburg, MD. First, there were coffee, juice and doughnuts available in the morning. Second, I did not notice any recording devices or stenographers keeping track of what was said. Previous meetings at NIST had been both video and audio taped. There were two major parts to the meeting: 1) listening presentations from a variety of different people and 2) debating resolutions about the government's proposed Key Escrow standard. I attended most of the presentations, but I skipped most of the debate about the resolutions. The remarks that follow are basically my personal recollections. The most interesting bit of information I learned on the first day concerned a software version of the Key Escrow system. The strongest and least controversial arguments against deploying all revolve around the fact that the proposed chips we've seen so far are all based in hardware. Adding an additional chip to computers and phones costs money ($25-100), adds weight (bad for portable phones) and increases power consumption. None of these are desirable attributes. More importantly, a hardware standard not very flexible and the nation's entire computer system could be compromised for 6 months to a year if the key escrow agents went bad. That's my estimate for the amount of time it would take us to replace all the chips. NIST, in recognition of these facts, has announced a "Cooperative Research and Development" plan (called CRADA-- the "A" might stand for agreement). This would allow members of industry and academia to join together with NIST and the NSA to try and discover a good, software based, Key Escrow scheme. Ray Bonner, deputy director of NIST, discussed the plan and said that he wasn't sure that it would lead to anything but that it was worth a try. He also said that we should keep a copy of the Federal Register containing the announcement (Vol 58, #162, Tues, Aug 24 1993, pg 44662) because it could be the only CRADA ever involving the NSA. It could become a collectors item. If anyone is interested in getting involved with this project, they should call Dennis Branstad at NIST (301-975-2913). To me, it seems like it is easy to accomplish a key escrow plan in software. It just depends how many features you want to add. A simple method is to encrypt the session key with the government's public key(s)and append this in a LEAF. If the cops wanted to listen in, they could decrypt the LEAF using the private key(s that would be kept by the escrow agency. Naturally, this could be compromised if the keys got out. More sophisticated methods could involve a three-way Diffie-Hellman key exchange at the start of each conversation on the phone system. Or the government might want to explore Silvio Micali's work at MIT. It would also be possible to use Gus Simmon's subliminal channels to implement a signature/escrow scheme. The LEAF would be a DSS signature and the session key would be held in subliminal channel. The other half of the conversation would be able to verify that the LEAF was there and the conversation was authentic, and the LE people could get the key if they so desired. (This could be easily broken. I can't remember the details of Simmons's solution at this moment.) There are several other answers that come to mind. The traditional objections to software implementations of the Key Escrow plan are (1) easy tamperability and (2) publication of NSA secrets. While software may be easier to change, people have also proposed very simple ways to circumvent Clipper. If both halves of the conversation coordinate themselves beforehand, any amount of duplicity is possible whether or not a hardware chip is part of the standard. It is possible to super-encrypt the entire data stream in software and the LEAF would be foiled. It doesn't seem as if there is that much difference on a relative scale. The critical problem to developing a software key escrow system is finding a way to prevent a modified piece of software from working with an unmodified piece of software. This would stop people from establishing links without prior arrangements for extra security. I believe that this may be possible to do this using two different types of LEAFS and shifting session keys every so often. Of course, sending out a software version of an algorithm will leak information from the NSA-- something that really worries them. But the CRADA says that the NSA will work on the software Key escrow plan on a complete unclassifed basis. People on the CSSAB made light of the strangeness of all of this. Other Presentations Most of the rest of the meeting was devoted to people not saying anything on purpose. The plan to give the DSS to the RSA to resolve patent differences and give the nation a standard has not generated any new facts. Mike Rubin, the lawyer in charge, was not at the meeting and he is apparently processing the public comments as I write. Some summarized the comments as uniformly stating, "Free is good, paying is bad." A group of computer scientists from NIST came to discuss their plan for the Federal Criteria for secure systems and the new "Common Criteria" that may emerge. This is an updated version of the old Orange Book classification scheme of C2 and B1 and stuff like that. The scientists said the draft is being finished but it isn't ready for release. But now, they're working on "Something Better." This is a new plan to standardize the grading of secure systems with other countries and evolve a "Common Criteria." In general, the board groused about the fact that the public and industry have never been invited to give comments during the process. The summary of this talk is: "We might be able to tell you something someday." Geoff Greiveldinger took up a whole hour in the afternoon to tell us that it would be impolite for him to discuss the key escrow system with the CSSAB before talking about it with Congress. He is the lawyer from the Justice department responsible for setting up the system. Some members of the board mentioned that the board was chartered by Congress and so he could speak freely, but others refused to be so impolite as to question his polite excuse. He filled the hour with more descriptions with all of the restrictions that they place on wiretaps at the Justice department. Once again, I found myself wondering why they are going through so much trouble over something that just seems to cause them grief. The taps cost money. They divert manpower. Etc. Yet, the FBI and the rest of the community is willing to go through a full court press on this topic. The taps are essential in crime encapsulated in conversations (i.e. influence peddling, bribery). Perhaps those of us outside of government (sadly only 4 out 5 people) should quit worrying about this topic. The crimes we're likely to commit all involve action: grand theft auto, drunk driving, pickpocketting, murder, rape, illegal parking etc. No one really cares what we say. It's just if we _do_ something and violate a property right. Usually, members of the government are the ones who could break the law just by openning their mouth. Some people from the Social Security Agency came to tell the board about their internal security procedures that they use to track down people inside the agency generating information for outsiders like private detectives. They routinely run sting operations where they call up information brokers and ask them to get a Social Security file for an individual. Then they watch for accesses to that record and flag the miscreant. One of the old hobbies at the agency was looking up the records of stars. (When your job is sitting around watching people get old, you've got to have something to do.) The agency keeps a watch list of the celebrity's real name and SS number. Special programs now watch for inquiries into these records. A nice guy from ARPA (Steve Squires) came and showed us complicated slides representing the various factions at ARPA who are going about developing the National Information Infrastructure. It seemed to be more a polite introduction than a fact-based briefing about what might come out of Al Gore's dreams. Dorothy Denning came to say that there was no final report from the outside team performing an outside review of the Clipper algorithm. In general, she said that the comments have been favorable to their work. Several members of the board questioned the independence of the review given that it was done at the NSA using NSA's computers and NSA's programmers. They also wondered about the depth of the review because it was apparent that Denning leaned heavily on the NSA's analysis. The EFF and Clipper The final presentation came from Jerry Berman from the EFF. In reality, he was representing the "Digital Privacy and Security Working Group" which is a group of industry and political groups that have joined together to say something about Clipper. This was the last presentation of the meeting and it became sort of a climax because people kept saying, "We'll see what the EFF has to say." Their statement was simple. The group feels that it can accept Clipper if any participation in the key escrow program is completely volutary. They proposed to test the administration's committment to volunteerism by noting whether they relaxed export requirements. To me, the statement was little more than a political gambit. All of the companies involved in the DPSWG really, really, really want export restrictions eased. So they offered their support for Clipper as a quid pro quo. Let us export anything (not just Clipper) and we'll support it. If you ask me, they shouldn't have been so bald about their horse trading, but then I'm not a regular in Washington log rolling. It should be possible to make a statement about Clipper without involving the other issue, but maybe it's a smart deal. The main members of the group are companies and the group had to standardize its message on what its members want. The Debate The rest of the meeting was centered around the debate on the board's resolution on Clipper. I missed most of this because it really seemed very petty. Most of the board wanted to say that the Clipper chip was a pain in the neck that wasn't worth the trouble but they couldn't come up with the right words. Is it "expensive", "more expensive than software", "more expensive than other alternatives", etc. The fight seemed to break down between government employees and non-government employees. Those outside the government kept arguing for stronger language and those inside kept saying things like, "But expensive relative to what? We don't have any concrete cost estimates." In the end, they passed resolutions that recorded reservations and a call for "public" debate on the topic including a decision by Congress on the needs of key escrow. If you have any questions about this summary, feel free to contact me at pcw(a)access.digex.com. --Peter Wayner

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CRADA
by ferguson＠fiber.sprintlink.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 16 Sep 1993 15:55:22 -0400, Peter Wayner <pcw(a)access.digex.net> wrote - > NIST, in recognition of these facts, has announced a "Cooperative > Research and Development" plan (called CRADA-- the "A" might > stand for agreement). This would allow members of industry and > academia to join together with NIST and the NSA to try and discover > a good, software based, Key Escrow scheme. Ray Bonner, deputy director > of NIST, discussed the plan and said that he wasn't sure that it > would lead to anything but that it was worth a try. He also said > that we should keep a copy of the Federal Register containing the > announcement (Vol 58, #162, Tues, Aug 24 1993, pg 44662) because > it could be the only CRADA ever involving the NSA. It could become > a collectors item. Where could one find an ASCII copy of the pertinent portion of the Federal Register (specifically, Vol. 58, #162, Tues., Aug 24 1993, pg 44662) that includes this "CRADA"? If anyone manages to obtain a copy, please let us (me) know. _____________________________________________________________________________ Paul Ferguson Mindbank Consulting Group fergp(a)sytex.com Fairfax, Virginia USA ferguson(a)icp.net

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