December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: (none)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous asks: > If its so easy to make your own biological weapons, > hoembrewed in a bathtub (or vat or whatever), how > about posting some web links or pointers? > > If its so easy why haven't more downtrodden > Americans (there are a lot of loonies in this > country) tried this stuff out yet? Because it's so easy to kill yourself doing so.

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RE: bugged?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Alan, I thought he was refering to that too, but notice he says the beep is before the negotiation, just after the dialing. Bye for now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Olsen [SMTP:alan@clueserver.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:06 AM > To: Ken Williams > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com; dc-stuff(a)dis.org; > hh-chat(a)gateway-1.secureservers.net > Subject: Re: bugged? > > At 06:20 AM 2/16/98 -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > > > >anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to > me > >from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this > is > >coming from a .au domain, btw. > > Sounds like he has a 56k modem and his ISP just upgraded to the same > sort > of 56k modem he has. That is part of the protocol negotiation. (In > the > future, it will take 30 minutes to finish connecting with a modem, but > we > will all get 666k transmission speed over normal phone lines.) > > > > >thanx, > > > >TATTOOMAN > > > >http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 > >From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX > >To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu > >Subject: PGP > > > >Yo tat, > > > >I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) > > > >Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the > >question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). > > > >Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm > getting > >a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The > >beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before > all the > >noise you get before the connection. > > > >Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a > connection > >like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being > tapped. > > > >Any suggestions ?? > > > >XXXXX > > > >P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than > >Tattooman..here's to you (_|_) > > > > > --- > | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand > | > |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: > | > | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man > | > |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the > keyboard.| > | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ > |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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payment mix
by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A payment mix is like an email mix, but instead of mixing and remailing emails, it mixes and repays payments. This would be useful when the payment system itself does not offer anonymity. A payment mix basicly turns any traceable payment system into an anonymous one. Payment mixes could be chained for additional security, just like email mixes. But by using blind signatures this could also be avoided. In that case the payment mix would be acting like a mini ecash mint. To illustrate how it would work, suppose Alice wants to give $1 to Bob. 1. Alice pays $1 to the payment mix using the traceable payment system. 2. In exchange, the payment mix issues Alice $1 in blinded (Chaumian) ecash. 3. Alice gives the ecash to Bob. 4. Bob gives the ecash back to the payment mix. 5. The payment mix pays Bob $1 using the traceable payment system. Notice that because of blinding, in step 4 the payment mix cannot connect the ecash it gets from Bob to the ecash it issued to Alice. This is a pretty simple idea, but I don't remember if we talked about it here already. If blinding is used, a payment mix would basicly BE an ecash mint, except the cash it issues would be held only momentarily by its users. Because its total outstanding liability at any given moment would be fairly low, a payment mix would only have to be minimally trusted.

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Re: Letter of the law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute an act of export?? > From jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Sat Feb 14 02:07:45 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu: jkwilli2 owned process doing -bs > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 04:27:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> > X-Sender: jkwilli2(a)c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Letter of the law > X-Copyright: The contents of this message may not be reproduced in any form > X-Copyright: (including Commercial use) unless specific permission is granted > X-Copyright: by the author of the message. All requests must be in writing. > X-Disclaimer: The contents of this email are for educational purposes only > X-Disclaimer: and do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself > X-Disclaimer: or my employer and are not endorsed by sponsored by or provided > X-Disclaimer: on behalf of North Carolina State University. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Anonymous wrote: > > >>I'm in El Paso Texas... so close to the border > >>I can see Old Mex outside my window as I write this.. > >>I'm over there nearly every day for lunch ( I actually > >>walk there from my house it's so close) If I write > >>a crypto program on my laptop over there and ftp > >>it to a web page I have on a server outside the US > >>will I have avoided the foolish export regs?? > >>Does anyone know of someone trying this before?? > > > >My guess is this: > > if it has the name of a US citizen in the copyright > >notice, it will be assumed to have been made in the > >US. if the morons even go after you. you still may have > >a plausable excuse if ever taken to court. > >after all, you "exported" youself, which is a perfectly > >legal thing to take out of the country, and "yourself" > >accidentally spewed a copy of something that couldn't > >cross the border. > >I don't think anybody has tried this and been challenged. > >then again, a lot of us don't have the opportunity. > >It's easier to ask forgivness than permission... > >Another easier excuse would be to publish it freely in > >hardcopy form, and just "happen" to have somebody end up > >"typing" in your source code abroad, making a legit > >international copy... > >-Anon2 > > i would think that the big question here, legally, is whether or not you > would be ustilizing a US ISP and/or cellular provider to make the upload > of the crypto program to the foreign server via ftp. as long as all the > packets stay outside of US borders, in other words, as long as you don't > use a US ISP and cellular provider, then i don't see how you would be > violating any laws in this case. > > Regards, > > TATTOOMAN > > http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ > Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com The views expressed herein are my own, and are not attributable to any other source, be it employer, friend or foe.

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The danger of certificates
by Henri La Bouche 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IMHO there is a serious situation creeping up that I have not seen much attention on. That is the use of certificates to encrypt e-mail. I think these are two entirely separate subjects and unless the distinction is made and people are made to see it strong encryption will be next to useless. If I may draw an analogy (albeit flawed <g>). Using a certificate to sign or encrypt a message is akin to notarizing a document. Using strong encryption is akin to putting snail mail in an envelope before sending. To have to notarize every piece of mail you send, or to be required to go to the post office and show ID in order to send mail would be a gross invasion of privacy and completely unacceptable. Yet this is what is done when using certificates to encrypt e-mail. Currently this use of certificates is not widespread, but if any lesson is to be learned from the "browser wars" is that if you give it away people will use it regardless of quality. And in America especially, if something requires brains or intelligence to use you know right off that the general public will not accept it. As e-mail becomes more and more the standard it will be easy to whip the populace into a frenzy regarding "privacy" and spam then provide the simple and easy method of using certificates as a standard. Let's put on the black hat for a moment and create a plan. We want to snooker the public into believing it has security through strong encryption and yet we have the ability to track connections and communications. Further we would like to get a net gain of intel, not just replace the current system with something new. The primary goals would be 1. Knock out any competing encryption system. 2. Provide a system that is apparently strong but is not. The best way to defeat number one is to give away number two (pun intended). The specs for such a system would be: 1. A backdoor or key escrow or other method to easily decrypt the information sent. 2. A means to trace all messages back to the actual originator. 3. A means to know who is the true recipient. 4. User friendly (no-brainer). 5. It must provide benefits above and beyond encryption and digital signatures. 6. Acceptable to the general public. The simplest method of creating key escrow is to have a single source for issuing keys. If people are unable to create their own keys then there will be no problem with having to break unknown keys. To make this acceptable to the populace there has to be an apparent benefit. If the keys are issued by a "trusted" authority who supposedly takes great pains to verify identity before issuing a key, then the people don't have to think or be bother to look for deceit. The authority will be there to ensure it never happens. This system also provides traceability of originator and recipient. To make it user friendly, make it password free, fully integrated into the e-mail client and fully transparent to the user. Additional benefits could be the noted above "trusted" authority factor as well as whipping up a frenzy about "hackers" reading your mail and doing horrible things, which will be prevented if your just use our encryption. Also "faster" protocols can be invented that whisk certificate encrypted mail through the internet faster and more reliably. Use of certificates can eliminate spam, simply filter out all mail that is not encrypted with one of our certificates, after all, if someone doesn't use our certificate then they must have something to hide. Making it acceptable would require that it appear to be not controlled by the government and then run a PR campaign selling it. First off have a few large corporations back it, have the certificates issued by an apparently private corporation and finally have athlete and movie star endorsements, i.e. "Got Encryption". The political deviants who refuse to use this system will be easy to isolate and target. Henri <hedgehog(a)anon.efga.org>

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17 Dec '03

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$10million logic bomb goes off
by David Honig 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Letter of the law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ken, I guess I was thinking about the NSA, recording the message and deciding to make an example. They seem to do that occassionally just to keep the rest of us folks 'in line'. I can't see the INS even understanding what they were looking at, even if you showed them. "My, my, my! All those bits are really in that little box?" You have to understand the difference between a 'large possibility' and a 'fat chance', yes? Now, drugs! That they understand ... But a PKI key? Or, a file?? Or, a crypto program (especially renamed)??? What piece of this trick question am I missing? Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com The views expressed herein are my own, and are not attributable to any other source, be it employer, friend or foe. > From jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Tue Feb 17 10:56:22 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu: jkwilli2 owned process doing -bs > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:56:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Williams <jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu> > X-Sender: jkwilli2(a)c00954-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu > To: Bob De Witt <rdew(a)el.nec.com> > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Letter of the law > X-Copyright: The contents of this message may not be reproduced in any form > X-Copyright: (including Commercial use) unless specific permission is granted > X-Copyright: by the author of the message. All requests must be in writing. > X-Disclaimer: The contents of this email are for educational purposes only > X-Disclaimer: and do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself > X-Disclaimer: or my employer and are not endorsed by sponsored by or provided > X-Disclaimer: on behalf of North Carolina State University. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Bob De Witt wrote: > > >Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute > >an act of export?? > > well, yes, of course. that was taken for granted in my comments. > likewise, if you go to a tattoo parlor and get the infamous 4 line > crypto-sig tattooed on your ass, then you are classified as a munition, > and you cannot leave the US. > > the only relevant question here regards the odds that a US Customs officer > is going to want you to drop your drawers and bend over... > ;-) > > ken > > >> >>I'm in El Paso Texas... so close to the border > >> >>I can see Old Mex outside my window as I write this.. > >> >>I'm over there nearly every day for lunch ( I actually > >> >>walk there from my house it's so close) If I write > >> >>a crypto program on my laptop over there and ftp > >> >>it to a web page I have on a server outside the US > >> >>will I have avoided the foolish export regs?? > >> >>Does anyone know of someone trying this before?? > >> > > >> >My guess is this: > >> > if it has the name of a US citizen in the copyright > >> >notice, it will be assumed to have been made in the > >> >US. if the morons even go after you. you still may have > >> >a plausable excuse if ever taken to court. > >> >after all, you "exported" youself, which is a perfectly > >> >legal thing to take out of the country, and "yourself" > >> >accidentally spewed a copy of something that couldn't > >> >cross the border. > >> >I don't think anybody has tried this and been challenged. > >> >then again, a lot of us don't have the opportunity. > >> >It's easier to ask forgivness than permission... > >> >Another easier excuse would be to publish it freely in > >> >hardcopy form, and just "happen" to have somebody end up > >> >"typing" in your source code abroad, making a legit > >> >international copy... > >> >-Anon2 > >> > >> i would think that the big question here, legally, is whether or not you > >> would be ustilizing a US ISP and/or cellular provider to make the upload > >> of the crypto program to the foreign server via ftp. as long as all the > >> packets stay outside of US borders, in other words, as long as you don't > >> use a US ISP and cellular provider, then i don't see how you would be > >> violating any laws in this case. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> TATTOOMAN > >> > >> http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ > >> > >Bob De Witt, > >rdew(a)el.nec.com > >The views expressed herein are my own, > >and are not attributable to any other > >source, be it employer, friend or foe. > > > > > > TATTOOMAN > > /--------------------------[ TATTOOMAN ]--------------------------\ > | ORG: NC State Computer Science Dept VP of The E. H. A. P. Corp. | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)adm.csc.ncsu.edu ehap(a)hackers.com | > | EML: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu ehap-secure(a)hackers.com | > | WWW: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jkwilli2/ http://www.hackers.com/ehap/ | > | FTP: ftp://152.7.11.38/pub/personal/tattooman/ | > | W3B: http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/w3board/ | > | PGP: finger tattooman(a)152.7.11.38 | > \----------------[ http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman/ ]----------------/ > > >

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by mark＠mtcnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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FREE Pentium II Computer!!!
by rlbrye＠daltek.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute >an act of export?? Well, yes it would, but the original scenario includes WRITING the code outside of the US, which means it never was a US creation, even if the creature that happened to be writing the code was native to the US. The question is whether the dude could pull a stunt like this and get away with it. I'd say go for it. You got a plausible loophole to a stupid law that might not hold in court anyways. -Anon

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description of my stream cipher
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: description of my stream cipher From: Jouni Vuorio <Jouni.Vuorio(a)vtoy.fi> Date: 1998/02/17 Message-ID: <34E9D794.371(a)vtoy.fi> Newsgroups: sci.crypt [Subscribe to sci.crypt] [More Headers] Here is description of my stream cipher, it operates one byte at time, instead of one bit at time. itŽs key length is up to 255 bytes (2040 bits) im sure that there are no need for longer description, becourse that vb source code explanes details. only thing that could be difficult to understund is Asc(Mid(Text2, R2 - 1, 1)) that simppely means that take asci value from text (in this case string text2) starting from R2 - 1 and length of 1. i think that everyone understunds the rest. VB source code: Initializing the substitution-box On Error Resume Next D = Len(Key) R = 1 For R2 = 1 To 256 H1 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R2 - 1, 1)) K1 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R, 1)) K2 = Asc(Mid(Text2, D Mod Len(Text2), 1)) K3 = Asc(Mid(Text2, D * R Mod Len(Text2), 1)) K4 = Asc(Mid(Text2, R + D Mod Len(Text2), 1)) R1 = ((R1 + R2 + K + 1) Xor (R1 * R2 + 1)) Mod 256 R3 = ((R3 + R1 + 1) + R2 + (R1 * K + 1 Mod (R3 + R1 + 1))) Mod 256 R4 = (R4 + R3 + R1 + 1) ^ 2 Mod 256 R = R + 1 If (R - 1) = Len(Text2) Then R = 1 C = (C + (H1 + K1 + K2 + K3 + K4 + D + R1 + R3 + R4) Mod 256) Mod 256 C = C Mod 256 SBox = SBox & Chr(C Mod 255 + 1) Next On Error Resume Next Key = Text2 texti = Text1 Text1 = "" R = 1 S1 = Len(Key) S2 = 11 For R2 = 1 To Len(texti) C = Asc(Mid(texti, R2, 1)) - 1 K = (K + Asc(Mid(Key, R2 Mod Len(Key), 1))) Mod 256 K = (K + Asc(Mid(SBox, (((K * R2 Mod 256) - 255) * -1) Mod 257, 1))) Mod 256 R1 = ((R1 + R2 + K) Xor (R1 * R2)) Mod 256 R3 = ((R3 + R1) + R2 + (R1 * K Mod (R3 + R1))) Mod 256 R4 = (R4 + R3 + R1) ^ 2 Mod 256 F1 = (F1 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R1 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F2 = (F2 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R2 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F3 = (F3 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R3 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F4 = (F4 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, R4 Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) F5 = (F5 + (Asc(Mid(SBox, K Mod 256, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) temp = F1 + F2 + F3 + F4 + F5 + M Mod 256 F = (F + (Asc(Mid(SBox, temp, 1)) Mod 256) Mod 256) M = M + 1 If M = 2 Then M = 0 If M = 0 Then C = C Xor ((F + K) Mod 256) If M = 1 Then C = C Xor ((((F + K) Mod 256) - 255) * -1) C = (C Mod 256) + 1 Mid(texti, R2, 1) = Chr(C) Next Text1 = texti -- Jouni.vuorio(a)vtoy.fi GSM 050-5456235 PahaeNTeistä soNTaa viNTiöt peNTteihin aseNTavat...

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Handling spam
by The Sheriff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those of you who use mail-reading/downloading softs that let you filter your messages based on header/body content (ie Eudora, ect), I've found a helpfull tool that assists in the filtering out of spam. If the Sender: header is "owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com" and the To: line does not contain the list address, you can easily get a lot of the spam that comes through here. I've resigned myself to creatively filtering out the spam into the trash folder (or your equivilent, like deleting) and leaving it at that, because of time constraints. Best wishes and fresh-roasted peanut taste, The Sheriff. -- ***<REPLY TO: sheriff(a)speakeasy.org>*** --- As kinky as this sounds, finger sheriff(a)speakeasy.org for my RSA PGP public key and my ICQ UIN. If you don't know what a UIN is, head on over to http://www.icq.com :) --- Any and all commercial e-mail will be subject to a $5000 downloading, archival and consulting fee. Cash/MO only. Refusals will result in a default judgement of $10,000 and persuit from my favorite collection agency. NO SPAM! --- --- BEGIN INFLAMATORY BLOCK --- Version: 0 (Survivors) Comments: I was stewing about cliques when the rhyming bug bit. Watch them gather, watch them play. Watch the mailman blow them away. --- END INFLAMATORY BLOCK ---

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nobody(a)REPLAY.COM wrote: ----------------------------------------------------- Here is description of my stream cipher, it operates one ... ... VB source code: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------------------------------ Who the hell uses VB of all languages - to write a crypto algorithm? And, which sane person uses MicroSucks Winduhz?

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Stupid Law
by rdew＠el.nec.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, it is. Even if he wrote a program in Mexico, but carried his laptop back and forth daily, each piece can come into the US, but cannot leave again! Uuuuuuuuummmmmmm, gooooood! Read the actual documents. Bob De Witt, rdew(a)el.nec.com > From anon(a)anon.efga.org Tue Feb 17 19:44:29 1998 > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:08:26 -0500 > From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> > Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. > It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. > Please report problems or inappropriate use to the > remailer administrator at <admin(a)anon.efga.org>. > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > > >Doesn't the act of taking it across the border, in the laptop, constitute > >an act of export?? > > Well, yes it would, but the original scenario includes WRITING the code > outside of the US, which means it never was a US creation, even if the > creature that happened to be writing the code was native to the US. > > The question is whether the dude could pull a stunt like this and get > away with it. I'd say go for it. You got a plausible loophole to a > stupid law that might not hold in court anyways. > > -Anon > > >

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Squelch discussions of the "spam problem"
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Several lists I'm on are beating the spam problem once again. What to do about it, whether government should step in, and so on. Look, folks, I guarantee that the more everyone talks about the "spam problem," even if most of us don't think it's a pressing problem, the more likely it is that spam legislation will be introduced. And that won't be good, whatever one thinks of spam. Congress operates by catering to special interests and popular calls for "action." Doesn't matter to them what action they take, so long as they can hold up their "Digital Protectin and Children's Safe Surfing Act of 1998" legislation. The more jostling and chatter that goes on, the more likely Congressional aides will start drawing up legislative language. So, even if you think spam is a serious problem, I urge you to suppress the desire to throw your two cents in on what kind of a horrible thing it is, how its corrupting the nation's precious bodily fluids, and how *something* must be done! I guarantee you won't like the results you get, no matter your views on spam. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Sneak Preview!!!
by sneakpreview＠amninc.nu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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167 business and financial reports -53016
by 77224.who＠cygnus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: I was auto-outed by an IMG tag in HTML spam
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This can also happen with embedded tags in news messages, if you use Netscape to read news while 'autoload images' is turned on. It's an interesting form of entrapment. Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Anonymous [SMTP:anon@anon.efga.org] [Trei, Peter] [edited] > They sent a message to my > off-site address (along with those of other critics about whom > they wanted to know more). It was an HTML message with an > embedded IMG tag. > > When Netscape saw that IMG > tag, it happily connected to marketing's "customer" tracking > server, and downloaded the keyed graphic. > > My boss just let me see the log he got from the marketing VP, > showing clearly that my workstation read the message.

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Commercial delegate in Egypt
by awbd＠awbd.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Feb. 18th 1998. . Dear Sirs, I have the pleasure to enclose herewith a copy of my C.V. introducing myself to you as a person of very good experience in Freight Forwarding & International Transportation and in the different commercial services related thereto; and proposing myself for representing your company in Egypt and the Middle East as its own local resident COMMERCIAL DELEGATE looking after your interests and projects in this area. As a matter of fact, among lots of investors, many international freight forwarding & transportation companies have started their own presence in Egypt seizing the opportunity of the economic reformation achieved in this area; as now is the right time for business starting in Egypt. Starting with Commercial Delegation I foresee our final target, in case my proposal meets your interest, is to develop that delegation into the full operating companys branch in Egypt. That is to be achieved gradually by time, but as quickly as possible, through building a good account of clients and by selecting and training an efficient professional work team. In addition to my qualifications shown in my enclosed C.V., I am actually a USA resident as per the Green Card I have got for lawful admission for permanent residence in America (Employment Authorized). Such advantage is considered as a good asset for a person appointed by an American company to represent it as its own Commercial Delegate in the area where he was grown up. Speaking their own language and understanding their mentality and the way they think, such delegate can move among the companys correspondents & agents, its clients, the local official authorities, and any other concerned parties to intervene, for his companys favor, to avoid any probable problems and to enhance the companys achievements in this area. For any further details and/or information, please feel free and do not hesitate to contact me through any of the contact means listed among my personal data in my C.V. attached hereto. You may also contact me, for the time being and until Feb. 24th when I leave back to Egypt, through my address in USA which is as follows: 915 Mount Olive Dr. #3 Duarte, CA 91010 Tel & Fax (626) 357 0243 E-mail: info(a)awbd.com Looking forward to getting the honor of working with your esteemed company, I wish you all the best and remain faithfully yours. Isaac Youssef CURRICULUM VITAE PERSONAL DATA: Name: Isaac Youssef Atiya Nationality; Egyptian Place and date of birth: Cairo, On Oct. 5th 1951 Marital Status: Single Education Degree: B.Sc. Cairo University Contact Address: PO Box #15 Al- Afdal Post Office Cairo-11627, Egypt. Tel: 00202-235-3997 Fax: 00202-236-7413 E-mail: andyeg(a)eis.egnet.net JOB HISTORY & BUSINESS EXPERIENCE: Jan. 1st. 94 - Currently: PARTNER and MANAGER of CFT Int1., CENTRE DU FRET ET DU TRANSPORT INTERNATIONAL, which is actually an extension of GONDRAND Egypt (A former company mentioned below). As CFT Intl., I represented the following companies: = SDV group, including SCAC, TTA, & ATT France = TRANSCAP INTERNATIONAL France = GEFCO France Aug, 15th 91 - May 31st 94 The GENERAL MANAGER, and the only ACTIVE PARTNER of GONDRAND Egypt, one of the most leading freight forwarding agents and the international transport companies working in Egypt. As GONDRAND Egypt, I was the agent of many world wide companies such as : = S.F.T. GONDRAND FRERES France = MACH + France = SAVING SHIPPING & FORWARDING Italy = UTC, UNION TRANSPORT CORPORATION USA = UAT, UNION AIR TRANSPORT Europe = DSL, DISTRIBUTION SERVICES LTD USA = GEFCO France = TRUST FREIGHT USA Sep. 1st 88 - Aug. 14th 91: During that period, besides managing an export- import group consisting of 3 sister companies, I worked in the following companies: = DMC, the Egyptian daughter company of DOLLFUS MIEG ET CIE, one of the most leading world wide French threads manufacturers, in which I worked as the MATERIALS / INFORMATION FLOW & PURCHASING MANAGER. My duties included the following: 1- Supplying and furnishing both of the clients of the company and its employees with whatever they needed of information, materials, services, and /or products. 2- Controlling the flow of all the materials imported or locally purchased. 3- Supervising the import formalities and regulations with Banks, Customs and Governmental authorities, Air and Maritime lines, and Freight Forwarding agents. 4- Supervising purchasing and maintenance of the company assets through different contractors, suppliers, and services companies. 5- Controlling the circulation of raw materials and products. = AMECO, an Egyptian freight forwarder which, in the same time, represents ships owners. In AMECO I had the position of the ASSISTANT MANAGER of Cairo branch. = MEDTRANS, The Egyptian correspondent of a group of European and American freight forwarding companies, such as the French company S.F.T. GONDRAND FRERES, And the American company DANIEL F. YOUNG Inc.. In MEDTRANS I had the position of the EXECUTIVE MANAGER. Feb. 1st 80 - Aug. 31st 88 : A SUPERVISOR and a DEPARTMENT HEAD in MFA - MISR FREIGHT AGENCIES - The Egyptian branch of the world wide DANZAS company for international transportation and freight forwarding - which had, at that time, 450 offices distributed in 42 countries with the head office in Switzerland. In MFA- DANZAS Egypt - I supervised the following departments: 1- Sea Freight Dep. (Conventional and General Cargo, and Containerized Shipments). 2- Air Freight Dep. 3- Projects Transport Dep. 4- Transit Goods & Distribution Dep. 5- Fairs & International Exhibitions Transport Dep. 6- The Local Operations & Inland Road Transport Dep. 7- Besides the above, I supervised some special inter-branches relations between MFA and the other world wide branches of DANZAS group. Before MFA was founded, I worked in the above capacities for the COMMERCIAL DELEGATION OF DANZAS in Egypt. Sept. 78 - Jan. 31st 80: The DIRECTOR ASSISTANT of CENTER FOR EGYPTIAN CIVILIZATION STUDIES, in which I supervised the following: 1- Planning & Execution of programs 2- Administration 3- Public Relations 4- Correspondence 5- Translation OTHER QUALIFICATIONS: = Courses in MANAGEMENT SKILLS FOR SUPERVISORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS organized by Monadonck International Limited - London, for International Management Development. = A seminar and a long training course in PROJECTS TRANSPORT, SEA FREIGHT, and INLAND ROAD TRANSPORT in DANZAS branch in Zurich city, and in AIR FREIGHT in its branch in Kloten airport of Zurich. = Courses in BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION including FINANCE FOR NON- FINANCIAL MANAGERS, AN INTRODUCTION TO COST ACCOUNTING, and BASIC PRINCIPLES OF FEASIBILITY STUDIES. These courses were organized by The Egyptian-German Association for Economical and Social Development of The Arab-German Chamber of Commerce in Cairo, among the Business Administration Program in Egypt sponsored by Konrad-Adenauer Foundation. = Write and Speak English language. = Some courses in French language, and still studying. = Traveled in Business Trips to many countries, such as Switzerland, UK, France, Germany, Turkey, and USA. = Active, Head Working, Ambitious, and willing for constant movement & traveling. = Fond of creating new businesses in Egypt. Signature Isaac Youssef PS: Besides the ordinary transport activities and the services related to the freight forwarding business, I represent my clients in the various official authorities, e.g. Customs Authority; Investment Authority, General Organization for Fairs & International Exhibitions, Egyptian General Petroleum Corporation, National Authority for Wire and Wireless Communications, Traffic Administration, The Import Rationalization Committee of the Ministry of Foreign Trade, Banks, Embassies, and Chambers of Commerceetc..

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17 Dec '03

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