December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

$200,000 pussy for sale/Double Ds make me sneeze
by STUFFED/EUREKA! 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Fisher�s ORDER of July 22, 1998
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tuesday 7/28/98 7:34 AM John Young Morales and I met for lunch yesterday. We formulated our response to Fishers ORDER of July 22, 1998. We will get it out this week. Wayland wants to meet this morning to talk BUSINESS. I attach what I wrote for Wayland's and his Texas A&M buddies SBIR proposal. I am also working on the techie side of the digital FX. I am getting 8051 machines working AGAIN. Thank goodness I wrote a book documenting what we did. I have to study my own book to TRY TO figure out what is going wrong! Our phone conversation when you told me about some SCARY people you met some years ago reminds me of Sandian James Gosler. Sandia transferred me into Robert Ewings division to break electronic locks for the FBI. Gosler was then made Ewings projects boss. It was at this time that Gosler told me that my abilities were being wasted breaking locks for the FBI. Gosler told me he was going to transfer me to an NSA project. I refused. NSA requires signed ones civil liberties away to work on their projects. http://www.jya.com/nsa-sun.htm After I just met Bob Wayland, Wayland told me to keep away from Gosler. Wayland told me - and others too - that one of Goslers female employees invited Gosler to her home after work. Gosler raped her, I was told. Gosler threatened to kill her if she revealed the rape, I was told. My former department manager, Kent Parsons, and Forth advocate told me that he thought that Gosler was one of Sandias true crazies. Gosler is the supervisor to told me When Payne balked, his supervisor said Payne "did not choose his jobs. Rather, Sandia assigns duties to" him. http://www.jya.com/whp1.htm What scares me is that guys like Gosler are working for our government. Lets all hope for settlement before this matter gets WORSE. Later bill WEED KILLER computer interface proposal section 7/27/98 10:11 AM Solution to controlling and collecting data from the WEED KILLER involves interfacing a personal computer running a version of the Windows operating system to the WEED KILLER analog/digital hardware. Windows is not a real-time operating system, therefore microcontroller controller/collector hardware interface must be installed between a Wintel PC and the WEED KILLER hardware. Essence of the Wintel data collector problem is that Windows 3.x or 9x responds to a hardware interrupt usually between 70 to 150 microseconds. In rare occasions the interrupt latency may extend to 1.5 milliseconds or even longer. A microcontroller responds to an interrupt in several microseconds. Wintel hardware controller interface is even more difficult than collection for the reason that the Windows operating system only gives control to an application when Windows decides. In the collection, mode at least a hardware interrupt signals Windows that the application wants control. However, the microcontroller can send the Wintel an interrupt asking the applications code whether there is any message it needs to send the microcontroller. Microcontrollers have specialized timers, serial expansion ports and are, therefore, designed to be interfaced to analog and digital hardware. An 80C32 family microcontroller is proposed for the WEED KILLER application for reasons. 1 The 80C32 will do the job. 2 Multiple vendors of 80C32 guarantee future supply at a competitive price. Current suppliers include Intel, AMD, Winbond, Dallas, Philips, Siemens, OKI, ATMEL, ... 3 High-speed parallel port bi-directional IEEE 1284 enhanced capability port 9 (ecp) communications hardware between an 80C32 and PC is in the final stage of development. 4 IEEE 1284 hardware drivers are supplied with Windows NT. Custom assembler dll drivers are available for 9x and 3.x. 5 A public-domain Forth 8051 operating system hosting a high-level language and interactive assembler with complete source code documentation is available on Internet. http://jya.com/f86/whpf86.htm Hardcover book further documenting 5 is available from Academic Press. http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2 Only a Wintel machine is required for both hardware and software for the WEED KILLER project. Usually a Forth hardware/software development probject on requres a voltmeter, logic probe, and, infrequently, an oscilloscope. Reason is the INTERACTIVE control of the hardware and software from a PC keyboard and diagnostic information easily printed to a PC monitor. Justification for assertion made in the above paragraph comes from Internet. NASA uses Forth extensively for its space programs. http://groucho.gsfc.nasa.gov/forth/ Ballard used polyForth http://av.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=polyforth&z=2&hc=0&hs=0 to locate wrecks of the Titanic, Bismarck, and Yorktown. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/98/midway Sun Microsystems workstation boot into Forth then invokes Solaris. http://playground.sun.com/pub/1275/ Adobe Postscript is a version of Forth. http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/language/forth-postscript.html Video game software are written mostly in Forth. The Wintel side of the WEED KILLER project will be most-likely written in a small amount of assembler interface code and Visual Basic. While Forth threaded code software technology is extremely valuable in some settings, it is not in others. Java is a variation of Forth. http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/meyer/jvmref/ Future of Java on Wintel machines is unclear at this time. For example, The hottest items among techies is a browser called Opera. This is a $40 shareware program that in speed and compact size buts both IE and Communicator to shame. It has a slightly different interface from either of the majors - an interface some find refreshing while other find less than useful. As it's shareware, you can try and then buy if you like it. One reason for its speed is that it ignores Java - the Internet's Bandwidth Pig (IBP). The Rumor Mill by Paul Cassel ComputerScene Magazine July 1998 Forth executes code High-level at about 10% the speed of a compiled high-level language. Speed of execution of small applications is not effected by Forths slow execution. Reason is that initial code is written in high-level Forth. Inner loops are then translated into Forth assembler. Speed is maintained with the advantage that data structures are created an maintained in high-level language while the interactive operating system is retained for trouble shooting both hardware and software problem. Hardware cost of building the 80C32 the WEED KILLER boards is estimated at $10k. Hardware design is estimated at 1 month labor at $50/hr for a total of $8k. Software development on the 80C32 side in Forth and Forth assembler, software on the Wintel side in Visual Basic and assembler, documentation, and training is estimated to be 4 months for a total of $32k /\/\/\ end Counterfeiting Wiegand Wire Access Credentials Bill Payne October 16,1996 Abstract Wiegand wire access credentials are easy and inexpensive to counterfeit. Access Control & Security Systems Integration magazine, October 1996 [http://www/securitysolutions.com] published the article, Wiegand technology stands the test of time by PAUL J. BODELL, page 12 Many card and reader manufacturers offer Wiegand (pronounced wee-gand) output. However, only three companies in the world make Wiegand readers. Sensor Engineering of Hamden Conn., holds the patent for Wiegand, and Sensor has licensed Cardkey of Simi Valley, Calif., and Doduco of Pforzheim, Germany, to manufacture Wiegand cards and readers. ... A Wiegand output reader is not the same thing as a Wiegand reader, and it is important to understand the differences. In brief, Wiegand reader use the Wiegand effect to translate card information around the patented Wiegand effect in which a segment of a specially treated wire generates an electronic pulse when subjected to a specific magnetic field. If the pulse is generated when the wire is near a pick-up coil, the pulse can be detected by a circuit. Lining up several rows of wires and passing them by a cold would generate a series of pulses. Lining up two rows of wires - calling on row "zero bits" and the other "one bits" - and passing them by two different coils would generate two series of pulses, or data bits. These data bits can then be interpreted as binary data and used to control other devices. If you seal the coils in a rugged housing with properly placed magnets, and LED and some simple circuitry, you have a Wiegand reader. Carefully laminate the special wires in vinyl, and artwork, and hot-stamp a number on the vinyl, and you have a Wiegand card. IN THE BEGINNING Wiegand was first to introduce to the access control market in the late 1970s. It was immediately successful because it filled the need for durable, secure card and reader technology. Embedded in the cards, Wiegand wires cannot be altered or duplicated. ... Bodell's Last statement is incorrect. Tasks for EASILY counterfeiting Wiegand wire cards are 1 Locate the wires inside the card to read the 0s and 1s. 2 Build an ACCEPTABLE copy of the card. Bodell's clear explanation of the working of a Wiegand card can be visualized zero row | | | one row | | binary 0 1 0 0 1 representation Solutions to Task 1 A X-ray the card B MAGNI VIEW FILM, Mylar film reads magnetic fields ... Edmunds Scientific Company, catalog 16N1, page 205, C33,447 $11.75 is placed over the top of the Wiegand card. COW MAGNET, Cow magnetics allow farmers to trap metal in the stomachs of their cows. Edmunds, page 204, C31,101 $10.75 is placed under the card. Location of the wires is easily seen on the green film. Mark the position of the wires with a pen. Next chop the card vertically using a shear into about 80/1000s paper-match-sized strips. Don't worry about cutting a wire or two. Note that a 0 has the pen mark to the top. A 1 has the pen mark at the bottom. Take a business card and layout the "paper match"-like strips to counterfeit the card number desired. Don't worry about spacing. Wiegand output is self-clocking! Tape the "paper-match - like" strips to the business card. Only the FUNCTION of the card needs to be reproduced! History Breaking electronic locks was done as "work for others" at Sandia National Laboratories beginning in 1992 funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation/Engineering Research Facility, Quantico, VA. The FBI opined that this work was SECRET/NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION. Details of the consequences of this work are covered in Fired Worker File Lawsuit Against Sandia Specialist Says He Balked When Lab Sought Electronic Picklock Software, Albuquer Journal, Sunday April 25, 1993 State-sanctioned paranoia, EE Times, January 22, 1996 One man's battle, EE Times, March 22, 1994 Damn the torpedoes, EE Times, June 6, 1994 Protecting properly classified info, EE Times, April 11, 1994 DOE to scrutinize fairness in old whistle-blower cases, Albuquerque Tribune, Nov 7 1995 DOE boss accelerates whistle-blower protection, Albuquerque Tribune, March 27, 1996 DOE doesn't plan to compensate 'old' whistle-blowers with money, Albuquerque Tribune September 27, 199

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Re: FDR
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Jim Gillogly wrote: >Woops, cryptography relevance inadvertently embedded in a farrago by Attila: > >> I always wanted to believe Alger Hiss was innocent as his son Tony >> was in my class at Harvard --he wasnt innocent, nor were the Rosenbergs >> as the CIA had cracked the code but would not show it in court --they >> even knew who handed over the trigger mechanism (never punished and he >> left the U.S. after the Manhattan project and taught for many years at >> Oxford). > >For one thing, the CIA didn't crack the VENONA ciphers: it was the >Signal Intelligence Service at Arlington Hall, a predecessor of the >NSA, and NSA continued the cracks for the next three decades. > you are absolutely correct --my gaffe. CIA has never worked code to my knowledge. in fact, the old man who was the lead mathematician on the Verona project just died, did he not? >While the VENONA decrypts do indeed establish the Rosenbergs' guilt >beyond reasonable doubt, the evidence about Alger Hiss is more >tenuous. The only relevant evidence released is a single decrypt at >http://www.nsa.gov:8080/docs/venona/docs/Mar45/30_Mar_1945_R3_m4_p1.gif >about an interview with a Communist agent code-named ALES. A footnote >says ALES is "Probably Alger Hiss". The text of the message says that >ALES was at the Yalta conference (Alger Hiss was in fact there) and >went on to Moscow (I don't know whether Hiss did this or not, nor how >many others of the rather large American team did so). > I believe he went on to Moscow since he was one of FDR's two or three top people. I would need to reread the rather long paper on the various people involved and just how close McCarthy was to a truth he could not prove --didn't make McCarthy any less of a scumbag, though. I read the Alger Hiss portions of the documen- tation rather carefully because of the personal friendship I had with Tony who was a very genuine, refined individual (we were on the Harvard Crimson editorial staff together). I will also check your reference on Verona, but I believe there is more in the open records which ties it down. what is interesting is the number of intelligent individuals who not only believe in the concept of socialism/communism, but were essentially apologists for Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, etc. through the period 1917-1950. it was if the pain of Russia's people was just a catharsis on the road to Utopia --by 1950, the apologia wore rather thin... the guilt of the man who passed the trigger from White Sands is confirmed beyond a doubt by Verona also. > >In any case, the identification is less than certain, and much less >definitive than the Rosenberg data. > granted, but with the outside information, sufficient I believe to raise more than an eyebrow and Alger Hiss certainly should not have been in the position of trust and power that he was. part of the evidence is based on process of elimination --if not Hiss, who was standing at FDR's side in incident or "give-up" time and time again? with or without the McCarthy Red scare, I think the evidence was sufficient to convict, but then and again, I am known to be wrong --as above... __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__

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Re: FDR
by S. M. Halloran 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone assuming the personality of attila about yesterday (who is he today? ask him--you might like the answer) wrote while in a mental state that could be characterized as perceiving reality for only the very briefest of moments: [humongous snip of recycled rumors, shameless fabrications, hypocritical innuendo, outright slander, and maybe a paucity of conceded-by-all- including-the-man-himself historical fact] > there is no left and right; there is no moral government; it's all > about power and staying in power. ever notice how reformers only > stay reformers until they need to run for reelection and the money > goes to those who play ball? So learn to play the game. Yeah, no one, even the icons we build, is a born angel. There are relative levels of the good and bad in our society. Do you see the word "relative"? It means no absolutes. If you want absolutes, check out the Bible readers for whom every word is sacred. One of my rotating tag lines talks (another Turkish proverb) addresses the very issue you bring up: power. I hope it shows up at the end of this message. > > the U.S. is already an oligarchy, next comes the plutocracy, followed > by the triumvirate, and then the emporer (maybe with clothes) -then > there will be a winnowing and anarchy followed by tribal states. welcome > to history, but few will live to see it run its course --America, the > universally hated, will be the first to be plowed under when she can > no longer bully or buy the -pax americanus-. and the men in power know > that a hungry disorganized populace can be subjugated by a well fed > army. Well, that's what we call human history. Nations and empires rise and fall, birth and death, a natural progression. The only thing you need worry about while living in this kennel called the planet Earth is to be top dog. > sorry, I really am crazy, but it's better to be crazy than insane. You're sure about that, are you? Mitch Halloran Research (Bio)chemist Duzen Laboratories Group Ankara TURKEY mitch(a)duzen.com.tr A woman without a husband is like a horse without reins. --Turkish proverb

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DoD on Infosec and Crypto
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DoD released today a July 21 speech by John Hamre to a gathering of Fortune 500 CIOs of which about half dealt with infosec and encryption issues: http://jya.com/dod072198.htm (53K) Mentioned: the EFF DES crack, PGP, offshore products, the need for expensive hardware to bolster cheap code, Eligible Receiver, the difficulty of DoD meshing its legacy decrepit systems with cutting edge warfighting technology, concern about foreign Y2K, the need to slaughter when no one volunteers to help. DoD boosts strong encryption as the primary means to protect mil and com info but insists on "balancing" the needs of privacy and law enforcement. Questioners bluntly challenged equating the two.

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - July 28, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

========================================== Welcome to today's edition of the CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM. Please click on the icon / attachment for the most important news in wireless communications today. A new multi-billion dollar industry is here! Be at CTIA's WIRELESS I.T. '98 where personal computing and communications converge! Don't Miss Your Chance -- October 12-14, 1998 Bally's Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV For more information, visit http://www.wirelessit.com ===========================================

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Re: Fw: 1998-07-28 VP Statement on the Growing Digital Divide
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 29 Jul 98 01:19:56 -0000 (DST), kryz wrote: >> Office of the Vice President >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> For Immediate Release July 28, 1998 >> >> >> >> STATEMENT BY VICE PRESIDENT GORE >> ON DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE REPORT ABOUT >> THE GROWING DIGITAL DIVIDE >> The data shows that, although many more Americans now own computers, >> minorities and low-income households are still far less likely to have >> personal computers or on-line access to the Internet than white or more >> affluent households. Geee... who would have suspected that?!? >> and Internet access -- with the deepest discounts going to the poorest >> urban and rural schools. > >> In short, the E-Rate program will enable all of our children to mine >> the riches Yeah, mine the rich, just like "milk the cows" ... >> will have access to the same universe of knowledge as a child in the >> most affluent suburb. But what about the child of the rich that got just a little less rich for making the unrich richer and by being unrich, cannot make or affort the latest "save the world gizmo" who would have made us all more richer? >> Now is the time to bridge the digital divide, prevent those who can >> benefit the most from falling through the net, and move forward with the Three cheers for Komrad Gore! Ciao JFA " There can be no compromise on basic principles. There can be no compromise on moral issues. There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction." -Ayn Rand "The government has no source of revenue, except the taxes paid by the producers. To free itself -for a while- from the limits set by reality, the government initiates a credit con game on a scale which the private manipulator could not dream of. It borrows money from you today, which is to be repaid with money it will borrow from you day after tomorrow, and so on. This is known as "deficit financing." It is made possible by the fact that the government cuts the connection between goods and money. It issues paper money, which is used as a claim check on actually existing goods-but that money is not backed by any goods, it is not backed by gold, it is backed by nothing. It is a promissory note issued to you in exchange for your goods, to be paid by you (in the form of taxes) out of your future production." -Ayn Rand

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vehicle plate owner registration
by BagbyHtSpg＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi- whether the law has changed or not, what is the status of getting lists of oregon license plate owner's perhaps from previous sources? If this is either very illegal, or no longer possible please let me know thank you.

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none
by nobody＠nsm.htp.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BagbyHtSpg(a)aol.com wrote: > > Hi- whether the law has changed or not, what is the status of getting lists of > oregon license plate owner's perhaps from previous sources? If this is either > very illegal, or no longer possible please let me know thank you. Sure, no problem. Just send fifty bucks per plate, money orders only (do not fill in the "pay to the order of" part) to me, Sammy, at: Oregon State Penitentiary 2004 Coastal Hwy. Portland, Oregon 89002 Attn: Sammy Polinski A 44E52J (Block 9) That's $50.00 per address/plate, no questions asked. Nice doin business withdya. Sammy

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Spamming
by Art1Carol 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I do not spam! I don't think....The Government Lets it's post office's around the country spam everyone every day, for the postage Don't we wish we had a delete button for that? As a matter of fact when Uncle Bill and the henchmen in Washington can figure out how to make a profit off of email, "and they will" there won't be any spamming laws because uncle Tax will be making a windfall of money. I do believe each provider should have a block for unsolicited email and instruct their customers how to use it, and if they don't, Spam Away... The people who cry about spamming, don't know what they are going to create, wait til they send thier loved ones an email and get charged for it, then they'll wish they would have shut up and used the delete button....Thanks Art smith

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No Subject
by nulo66＠interaktiv.design.no 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

They're Young ! They're Fresh ! They're Beautiful ! They're L I V E !!! And They are yours FREE for 1 week. Stop by and take a look: http://207.212.128.4/newteenpics/xxxteen/enter.html

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Re: infant SSN assignment (whoops)
by Richard Storey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I remember discussing the changes with a friend around 1991. At the time I was reading the changes noted to the law in IRS publication no. 17. I believe it is also noted on Form 1040 (look in the area used for children's SSN, it should be ref. in the instructions). Between the two of these, you should get a pointer to the code, and all of these are available online. The IRS is the only agency, that I have know, of using this law and, again, I think that congress made it law c. '91. Richard Storey Mark Hedges wrote: > > Could someone kindly point toward an authoritative resource which proves > assignment of SSN's to newborns is mandatory? Gratzi. -hedges-

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My hubby smears curry on my breasts/17in willy too heavy to carry
by STUFFED/EUREKA! 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Free NNTP server question...
by Kurt Wolter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi cypherpunks, I grabbed your email address of an html posting of this newsgroup - in other words, your my randomly selected answer person(s). My question: My isp doesn't have an NNTP Server, but I'm under the impression that I can use a "free" news server somehow. I need to be pointed in the direction of how to set up news with a server other than my isp. Thanks, serpent(a)rths.rochelle.net

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present president
by Richard Storey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Gillogly wrote: > > However, SSN abuse seems like pretty thin [ice?] grounds, and not specifically attributable to the current President. > Jim Gillogly Yes, perjury, conspiracy, and other possible felonies seem to be much more in evidence--for now. Richard Storey

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - July 29, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

========================================== Welcome to today's edition of the CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM. Please click on the icon / attachment for the most important news in wireless communications today. A new multi-billion dollar industry is here! Be at CTIA's WIRELESS I.T. '98 where personal computing and communications converge! Don't Miss Your Chance -- October 12-14, 1998 Bally's Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV For more information, visit http://www.wirelessit.com ===========================================

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NSA Losing Crypto Experts
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Government Executive, August, 1998: The National Security Agency is losing ground in the fight to keep hard-to-find cryptography experts from being lured to greener pastures. By Richard Lardner Price Waterhouse didn't become a force in the consulting world by ignoring market trends. So it was no surprise when the firm decided to expand its information security operation. After all, the Internet has completely changed the way business is done: Paper is out, electrons are in. But just as electronic commerce is skyrocketing, so too are the odds that sensitive corporate information might be tampered with as it travels through cyberspace. With the private sector beginning to recognize that the digital door swings both ways, there's growing demand for the "risk management" services Price Waterhouse and other companies are offering to help keep the hackers at bay. To snare these potential clients, the company needed to hire hundreds of information technology professionals. Trouble is, information protection may be a huge growth area, but the talent pool is mighty shallow. So officials at Price Waterhouse did what many other commercial enterprises have done, and continue to do. They targeted a group of employees at the Defense Department's secretive National Security Agency, where thousands of the federal government's best and brightest spend their days eavesdropping on other countries while at the same time ensuring that U.S. information networks are secure. Because of the highly sensitive missions the agency performs, companies like Price Waterhouse know they are getting employees who are extremely good at what they do and are solid citizens too-NSA is picky about whom it hires and conducts thorough background investigations. Full text: http://www.jya.com/nsa-loss.htm

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Amused but still looking for...
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I love the SPACE ALIENS stuff : it's like the X-files on a druggie's version of a Long Island Iced Tea. The politics are agreeable and predictable. The up-to-the-minute news and the entertainment is fun but there's really not much that is technical happening here. Is there a coderpunks mail archive available anywhere? The URL that I've found has been down for too long. How about a list of ongoing projects? When is the next CP meeting? Mike "Just because a taste of freedom made you lose your lunch doesn't mean it should be removed from the menu."

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Re: Spamming
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Art1Carol wrote: > > I do not spam! I don't think....The Government Lets it's post office's > around the country spam everyone every day, for the postage Don't we wish we > had a delete button for that? Hello, McFly? Anybody home? McFly! When somebody sends mail through the postal service, they pay postage. It costs the recipient nothing and, if anything, is actually useful for getting a fire started in the winter. When somebody spams through the Internet, they pay virtually nothing, yet everybody else gets to pay to deliver, store, and filter the shit. Then there are the morons who connect to other peoples' machines and use those to relay mail; that's quite obviously theft. Take your spam, for instance. You go out and pay MSN a bit of money for some account. You mail the Cypherpunks list with your ad for porn or whatever it was. The list operators then have to deliver it to a few thousand people. You steal the resources of the CDR operators to deliver it. You steal the resources of the Cypherpunks to store it. You steal CPU time all over the place to filter it. You steal bandwidth all over the place to deliver it. This is obvious to anybody with more than a few dozen brain cells to rub together. Then again, this kind of grammatically-challenged and logically invalid garbage is what I've come to expect from users of lame services like AOL, Prodigy, MSN, Hotmail, et al. It goes with the territory for sites which cater to the lowest common denominator. > I do believe each provider should have a block for unsolicited email and > instruct their customers how to use it, and if they don't, Spam Away... Right, and they still get to pay for the transmission, temporary storage, filtering, etc. Let's see. Say I filter it. My ISP gets the spam. It has to store it. I log into the POP3 server to get my mail. I have to transfer it. After it's been stored on the ISP for quite a while, after it's been transmitted, after it's eaten my bandwidth, and after I've waited around for it to transfer, I have to blow CPU time to filter it. Yeah, like in postal junk mail the sender is really the one paying, not the recipient. Your clue check has bounced. [Remainder of drivel snipped.] Copy to MSN. Copy to the Cypherpunks list for the other lamers who like to spam it.

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cryptographic signatures
by ulf＠fitug.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A few months ago I posted statistics of the types of digital signatures used on Usenet and in mailings lists. It turns out that the moderators' signatures in a moderated newsgroup were tabulated for the individual posters, resulting in somewhat too big figures for one particular version of PGP. Here are the current figures: 56.6% PGP 2.* 33.7% PGP 5.* 3.6% other OpenPGP implementations 4.0% S/MIME The sample contains 249 unique (e-mail address, software version) pairs taken from various international and local newsgroups and mailing lists that happen to be available in my news spool (consisting of some 24,000 articles). Perhaps someone with a full newsfeed -- whatever that is in these days -- would like to try the same? These are the PGP Version headers: 55 2.6.2 24 2.6.3i 19 2.6.3ia 17 PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use <http://www.pgpi.com> 15 2.6.3in 14 PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 10 PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.3 9 2.6.3a 8 PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use 7 PGP 5.5.5 6 2.6.2i 4 PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.5 4 2.6.3a-sha1 3 PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0.1iRu 3 PGP for Business Security 5.5 3 2.6.3 2 PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com> 2 PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use 2 PGP for Business Security 5.5.6 2 PGP for Business Security 5.5.2 2 PGP Cyber-Knights Templar build 5.5.3ckt 2 GNUPG v0.3.1 (GNU/Linux) 2 GNUPG v0.3.0 (GNU/Linux) 2 CTCDOS 0.1 1 Version 2.0.0 1 PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use 1 PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> 1 PGPfreeware 5.5.2 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> 1 PGPfreeware 5.0 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> 1 PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5 1 PGP 5.5.3 It's not only for cool looking messages! 1 PGP 5.0i 1 PGP 5.0 1 GNUPG v0.3.2a (GNU/Linux) 1 GNUPG v0.3.2 (GNU/Linux) 1 GNUPG v0.3.1a (GNU/Linux) 1 4.0 Business Edition 1 2.7.1 1 2.7 1 2.6.i 1 2.6.3uin 1 2.6.1 1 2.6

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MORE!!!!
by CLCTCHR＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by Babybee390＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by quickfacts9＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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In and out brothel/My wife lays eggs like a chicken
by STUFFED/EUREKA! 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Welcome to today's issue of Stuffed. To read it you should click on the URL below. If it is not made clickable by your email program you will need to use your mouse to highlight the line, copy it and then paste it into your browser (then press Return). http://stuffed.net/98/7/30/ If you have an email program that can display web pages you will find today's front cover should have already been disp- layed and can be clicked on to take you straight to Stuffed. This email is never sent unsolicited. Stuffed is the supplement for the Eureka newsletter you subscribed to. Full instructions on unsubscribing are in every issue of Eureka!

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - July 30, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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