December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Internet Casinos
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Internet Casinos Find a Haven in the Caribbean Los Angeles Times ST. JOHN'S, Antigua and Barbuda-None of the 64,000 residents of this small, three-island Caribbean nation have complained about the latest international gambling boom to sweep their secretive little piece of paradise. In the past few months alone, more than a dozen casinos have opened here. But most Antiguans don't even know they exist. That's because you can't see them. Packed with games of roulette, blackjack, poker and craps, each gambling house is small enough to fit into the corner of a tiny room. Yet their owners say they're taking in millions of dollars a month from thousands of bettors, from Los Angeles to New York and beyond. It's Internet gambling - a wave of hot new Web sites set up as "virtual casinos" that enable you to win or lose real money from the comfort of your own home. And most of these sites originate in small villas or obscure offices on 108-square-mile Antigua, which is as famous for its secrecy and scandals as it is for its freewheeling tax laws and banking policies. There are no taxes on capital gains or income in Antigua and Barbuda. The government shuns outside scrutiny, even from its own citizens. During the past decade, it has licensed at least 57 offshore banks and at least two major sports-betting operations, and only it knows the names and assets of their owners. Under legislation passed earlier this year, Antigua has been charging just $100,000 a year for an Internet casino license that offers a similar promise of minimum regulation, maximum anonymity and tax-free profit. But all that soon may change. The Interbet boom comes amid a series of recent corruption and fraud scandals here, the biggest involving the world's first Internet bank collapse. From a base in Antigua and with the promise of "utmost privacy," two Russians allegedly used the Web to bilk wealthy customers in the United States and elsewhere out of tens of millions of dollars before closing the bank and fleeing in August. The virtual casino boom also comes at a time when off-island critics, among them U.S. law enforcement agencies and the State Department, say Antigua's loose regulatory track record and its secrecy laws have amounted to a recipe for disaster. Together, they offer organized crime rings and international drug cartels a haven to "wash" billions in illicit profits through Antiguan offshore businesses. "Antigua's offshore banking sector established in the mid1980s with only limited regulation-expanded rapidly in recent years.... Unfortunately, inadequate regulation and vetting led to a surge in questionable banking operations-a number with alleged links to Russian criminal elements," declared the State Department's most recent report on the international narcotics and money-laundering trades, issued in March. "The growing potential for money laundering has been a I increasing concern of both th l U.S. and Antigua governments," the report added. The U.S. report carefully praised Antiguan Prime Minister Lester Bird for tough new laws against money laundering passed last December and for his personal vow to crack down on the island's booming drug transshipment trade. His government also has promised tougher regulation of all offshore operations in the months ahead, the State Department noted. To play at an Internet casino, gamblers access a casino site on the World Wide Web through their personal computers, establish an account with a credit card or money order and collect their virtual "chips." The computer program ushers them into a fullcolor, multi-dimensional casino that looks remarkably similar to those in Las Vegas, and they can gamble at the table of their choice. Given that it is an industry where only the customers' credit cards and money orders are real - risked against software and humans they never $see- Bill Scott, one Web casino entrepreneur acknowledged that Antigua's latest cybercraze is technology to, as he puts it, "convert real money into virtual cash" quickly and safely. And all winners, he said, are paid off in a day. Although Scott said he welcomed the "big package of new regulations" that the Antiguan government recently sent him as I key to protecting the image of the new industry, he added, "I don't I think anybody has the knowledge of how to regulate this technology." U.S. officials say regulating gambling technology is especially tricky in Antigua, where the cash-strapped government has few resources and little resolve to become more open. "This island is operated like a lodge. Its a secret society," said Winston Derrick, who publishes Antigua's only independent newspaper. "You have to fight and fight for information." The government's annual expenditures, for example, are published, but years after the money is spent-a deliberate effort to minimize public interest and scrutiny, Derrick said. He added that police officials say even the most basic crime report is confidential. Although the government permits Derrick to publish his feisty Daily Observer, he and his brother were arrested when they started the island's first independent radio station last December. The case is still in court, and the station hasn't reopened. The prospect of prison also looms for Leonard Tim Hector if the opposition leader and publisher writes another word about the island's latest scandal-this one involving the prime minister and his family-in Hector's biweekly, the Outlet. Bird, whose family has controlled Antigua's power and politics for half a century, sought and won an injunction against Hector after the opposition leader published a series of stories viciously attacking the prime minister for alleged corruption. One quoted a Venezuelan businessman, who was convicted of cocaine trafficking along with one of Bird's brothers two years ago, as saying that the prime minister took a $1 million bribe from Colombia's Cali cartel to permit drug transshipments through Antigua -a charge Bird flatly denies. The injunction hasn't stopped Hector from sharply criticizing Bird's government for its policies toward offshore business and its lax regulation. He blamed those factors for the recent Internet bank debacle and said they invite similar abuse in the virtual casino industry. "They simply do not intend to regulate these new Internet casinos," Hector said in a recent interview. "The prime minister doesn't see that in his best interest." None of the few government officials who oversee the new cyber-casino trade along with all other offshore businesses on the island could be reached for comment. In the aftermath of the Internet bank collapse, though, the official Antigua & Barbuda Government Internet Web page-an elaborate electronic magnet designed to attract all kinds of international businesses -has posted the new offshore rules and regulations for closer inspection. But a look at the rise and fall of the European Union Bank, which billed itself as the world's first, full-service Internet bank helps explain why U.S. officials are viewing Antigua's latest cyberboom with concern. Privately, many of those officials said the Antiguan government should have been suspicious of the bank's operations long before it closed its only door. shut down its Web site and laid off its half a dozen employees ih early August, leaving tens of millions of dollars in deposits missing in cyberspace. The Bank of England grew suspicious of the bank last October, It publicly warned investors that the bank, which the two Russians had opened in a small office above a St. John's bar two years before, was offering unrealistically high interest rates in an unsecured environment that is not policed. After a similar alert from U.S. banking officials in April, the state of Idaho issued a cease. and-desist order against the bank, barring it from offering its wide array of banking and credit card services to Internet customers in the state. But it wasn't until the day the bank shut down and its directors disappeared this summer that Antigua's new Office of National Drugs and Money Laundering Policy issued an official "fraud alert," which opposition publisher Hector called "closing the stable door after both thieves and horses have bolted." --end Antigua bookies not worried Los Angeles Times ST. JOHN'S, Antigua and Barbuda-The few owners of virtual casinos in Antigua who agreed tO be interviewed by the Los Angeles Times asserted that they would welcome the new Internet betting laws, insisting that their operations are not only legal and honest but also state of the art. American Bill Scott, who moved his offshore sports betting operation to Antigua from the nearby island of St. Martin two years ago, said his Intercasino Web site was a natural next step for his parent company, World Wide Tele Sports. Located in the heart of St. John's, the nation's capital-atop a modern five-story, glass-and-marble building that most Antiguans think houses a computer school-Scott's operation handles millions of dollars in U.S. sports bets via toll-free telephone numbers under a separate Antiguan gaming license, he says. Scott says he was drawn to Antigua by the efficient phone system and, of course, the fact that gambling is legal here in a tax haven where confidentiality reigns and where even the Internet casinos are not viewed askance. Surrounded by dozens of computer stations where young Antiguans in headsets were taking sports bets on every conceivable contest one recent Sunday afternoon, Scott said business in his new Internet casino-located in a tiny box in an adjacent office-is so good he plans to open two more this week. "It's like Vegas. If you lose in one casino, you can go down the street to another," he said. --end PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear (N7ZEZ) | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net 7075 West Gowan Road | Voice: 1-702-658-2654 Suite 2148 | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 Las Vegas, NV 89129 | economic and crypto dissident --------------------------------------------------------------------- The push by western governments for financial transparency and banning unrestricted use of cryptography is blatent politicial tyranny. Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell

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Re: TWA FLIGHT 800 (Subject matter - Terrorism)
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following message is forwarded to you by "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)users.invweb.net> (listed as the From user of this message). The original sender (see the header, below) was <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> and has been set as the "Reply-To" field of this message. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Return-Path: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Received: from mediccom.org (mediccom.org [206.244.73.73]) > by users.invweb.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA19691 > for <WHGIII(a)INVWEB.NET>; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:30:40 -0500 >Received: by mediccom.org (Wildcat!) > id Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:32:55 GMT >Received: from portal by portal.pcps.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id IAA27658; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:25:20 -0500 >Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971113083334.009d0810(a)pcps.edu> >X-Sender: m.innera(a)pcps.edu >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:33:34 -0500 >X-Old_TimeStamp: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:33:34 -0500 >To: TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org >From: "Malcolm R.Innerarity" <m.innera(a)pcps.edu> >Subject: TWA FLIGHT 800 (Subject matter - Terrorism) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Reply-To: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Errors-To: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Status: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:23:33 -0800 From: ewolfe(a)involved.com (Ed Wolfe) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) From: Ian Goddard <igoddard(a)netkonnect.net> CNN said that my TWA 800 research was a "sham" and a "plot." That is a lie. Here is one of my reports. All these referenced items are accurate. Can you find any "sham" or "plot"? If not, what does that tell us about CNN? Spread this far and wide. Please save this now historical report. Other reports may be found here: http://www.copi.com/articles/Goddard <smaller> </smaller> ______________________________________ (free to forward & copy with attribute) -------------------------------------- T W A 8 0 0 M I S S I L E T H E O R Y - S T R O N G E R T H A N E V E R (c) (07/17/97) Ian Williams Goddard One year after the pulverized remains of TWA Flight 800 plunged into the sea, it's clearer than ever that the passengers on board were victims of a missile strike. While most of the 154 missile-witness accounts taken by the FBI remain covered up, a few accounts are available to the public, such as the accounts of 5 pilots who were flying in the area when TWA 800 was suddenly annihilated: FIVE PILOTS - FIVE MISSILE WITNESSES PILOT 1: Colonel William Stratemeier, Jr. AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY reported that Air National Guard C-130 pilot Colonel Stratemeier "said he had seen what appeared to be the trail of a shoulder-fired SAM ending in a flash on the 747." [1] However, in the next issue of AVIATION WEEK Stratemeier re- cants, saying: "We did not see smoke trails [from a missile], any ignition source from the tail end of a rocket nor anything..."[2] Col. Stratemeier recanted and therefore was not hit with an FBI gag order, but the next two ANG pilots did not recant their accounts and therefore were hit with FBI gag orders. PILOT 2: Captain Christian Baur AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY reports that right after the TWA 800 accident, ANG HH-60 helicopter co-pilot Captain Baur told federal officials: "Almost due south, there was a hard white light, like burning pyrotech- nics, in level flight. I was trying to figure out what it was. It was the wrong color for flares. It struck an object coming from the right [TWA 800] and made it explode." [3] PILOT 3: Major Frederick Meyer At a press conference the day after the TWA 800 accident, ANG HH-60 helicopter pilot Major Meyer said: "I saw something that looked to me like a shooting star. Now you normally don't see a shooting star when the sun is up. It was still bright... Almost immediately thereafter, I saw, in rapid succession, a small explosion then a large explosion." [4] Meyer said that the initial explosion "looked identical to the detonation of an antiaircraft shell."[3] PILOT 4: Vasilis Bakounis Private Pilot and Olympic Airlines engineer Vasilis Bakounis told the Greek publication ELEFTHEROTYPIA [5] that as he was heading toward Gabreski Airport on July 17, 1996, "Suddenly I saw in the fog to my left toward the ocean, a small flame rising quickly to- ward the sky. Before I realized it, I saw this flame become huge. My first thought was that it was a flare that had been launched from some boat... This flame then started to quickly lose altitude and a few seconds later there was... a second explosion." PILOT 5: Sven Faret Flying at 8,500 feet moments before the cataclysmic explosion of TWA 800, private pilot Sven Faret reported that a "short pin-flash of light appeared on the ground, perhaps water." [6] When asked if the flash of light rose upwards vertically from the earth, Sven confirmed that it did, stating that it was "like a rocket launch at a fireworks display" with a point-of-origin "near the shoreline or in the water." [7] All 5 pilots witnessed a rapidly moving luminous and fiery object that was: 1. like a surface-to-air missile 2. like burning pyrotechnics 3. like a meteor yet not like a meteor 4. like a small flame rising quickly 5. like a rocket at a fireworks display All 5 accounts indicate that this rapidly moving fiery object hit TWA 800 initiating the explosions that killed all on board. At least 2 of the pilots saw the object early enough in its trajectory to have seen it rise upwards from the Earth. The accounts of the pilots in the air are corroborated by over 100 witnesses on the ground who also saw a fiery object shoot upwards and intercept TWA 800. Some of them said that the fiery object was: * like a flare * like a thin white line * like Grucci fireworks * like a skyrocket Most witnesses, such as Naneen Levine on CNN [8], report that the fiery object followed a curving trajectory as it shot upwards toward TWA 800. There is simply no phenomena other than the firing of a missile that can explain all the details reported by the witnesses who saw that luminous object streak toward TWA 800. When we also consider that TWA 800 wreck- age shows the signs of missile damage,[9] the real question is not was it a missile that hit TWA 800, but whose missile was it. TERRORISTS OR THE U.S. NAVY? While the number of "terrorist-missile theories" is greater than zero, the number of terrorists known to be in the area during the crash is zero. Military experts have shown that the probability that terrorists could even deploy the military hardware necessary to destroy TWA 800 with a missile is near zero. In sum, the terrorist-missile theory offers us a whole lot of nothing. In contrast to the terrorist-missile theory, the U.S. Navy (a) could deploy the military hardware necessary to take out TWA 800, (b) did deploy assets to the area that were both below and above TWA 800 when it was hit, and (c) did activate warning zones near TWA 800 for military exercises and live-firings. TWA 800 even changed course to avoid an active naval-warning zone moments before it was hit. Unlike the terrorist theory, the Navy-missile theory is overflowing with evidence. THE NAVY SHUFFLE It is common for the guilty to try to deny the facts that place them at the scene of the crime or accident. The U.S. military tried to deny the fact that it was at the scene of the TWA 800 accident. On July 23, 1996, Department of Defense spokesman Kenneth Bacon told the press: I'm not aware [that] there were any military exercises in the area. I've been told by the Joint [Chiefs of] Staff that there were not. [10] Yet after eight months of such denials, the Navy finally admitted that naval exercises were taking place off Long Island at the time of the TWA 800 accident. [11] The Navy also admitted that they had three submarines off Long Island in the ocean below TWA 800. [11] We know that there were at least 8 military assets in the area of the TWA 800 accident: 1. NAVY: The ALBUQUERQUE, attack sub 2. NAVY: The TREPANG, attack sub 3. NAVY: The WYOMING, ICBM sub 4. NAVY: P-3 Orion aircraft 5. NAVY: The NORMANDY, missile cruiser 6. USCG: The ADAK, CG patrol boat 7. NYANG: HC-130 aircraft 8. NYANG: HH-60 helicopter Every asset except the Adak has either (a) been denied to exist or (b) had its reported location at the time of the TWA 800 accident changed by the military. For example, while shuffling around crash-time locations for months, the military placed 4 of its assets in 11 locations: The Navy-missile-cruiser Normandy was: 1. 180 miles away [12] 2. 185 miles away [13] 3. over 200 miles away [11] The Navy P-3 Orion aircraft was: 1. 15 miles to the south [14] 2. about 1 mile southwest [15] 3. 3,700 feet below TWA 800 [16] 4. 7,000 feet above TWA 800 [15] The ANG C-130 aircraft was: 1. 10 miles offshore [17] 2. flying along the coast [18] The ANG HH-60 helicopter was: 1. 10 miles offshore at 3,000 feet doing search and rescue practice.[1] 2. 3 miles inland at 100 feet doing practice landings. [19] Are we to believe that with as many as nine military radar systems blanketing the area [20] it would take months for the military to figure out where it was? The pattern of location shifting has been to move military assets further away from the accident than initially reported or further than was eventually discovered, as in the case of the P-3, which tapes proved was more than 10x closer to TWA 800 than once claimed. If the denial of evidenced proximity to the crime scene is evidence of culpability, then, since multiple instances of military proximity to TWA 800 have been denied by the military, the evidence that the mili- tary is culpable in the downing of TWA 800 is significant. The fact that not only assets but military exercises were denied, makes this evidence compelling. CONNECTING THE DOTS TWA 800 researcher Tom Shoemaker recently discovered documents showing that both the New York Air National Guard and the Navy were engaged in a large-scale exercise called "Global Yankee '96" taking place off shore between July 16 and 26, 1996.[20] Shoemaker's findings confirm the claim of TWA 800 researcher James Sanders that the Navy and the ANG were working together at the time of the accident. [21] While the fact that ANG pilots reported what they saw would seem to contradict the possibility of their culpability, it is clear that the ANG is not being forth- right about the locations of ANG assets at crash time.[18,URL] It should also be noted that ANG co-pilot Baur never said what he saw when he had the chance to at a press conference after the crash; that Major Meyer suggested first and foremost that TWA 800 was hit by a meteorite; and that Stratemeier suggested it was hit by a terrorist-style missile, then suddenly claimed he saw nothing. If the Navy and/ or the ANG are guilty, then the ANG pilot responses would be predictable misleads. One year after the fiery demise of TWA 800, the Navy-missile theory not only remains superior to all other TWA 800 theories, but is stronger than ever. _____________________________________________________________ REFERENCES___________________________________________________ [1] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: Terrorist Fears Deepen With 747's Destruction. E.Phillips, P.Mann (7/22/96) p.20. [2] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: ANG Eyewitnesses Reject Missile Theory. David Fulghum, July 29, 1996, page 32. [3] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: ANG Pilot: Jet Hit by Object. By David Fulghum, March 10, 1997. [4] New York Air National Guard, 106th Rescue Wing press conference, July 18, 1996. [5] ELEFTHEROTYPIA. Greece, August 23, 1996. Article by Aris Hatzigeorgiou. http://www.enet.gr [6] Report of TWA 800 witness Sven Faret: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/aviator.html [7] http://www.erols.com/igoddard/sven.htm [8] CNN: TWA 800 witness Naneen Levine illustrates missile trajectory: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/levine.htm [9] Debris: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/crash.htm [10] Department of Defense press conference, July 23, 1996: http://www.dtic.mil/defenselink/news/Jul96/t072396_t0723asd.html [11] NEWSDAY: TWA Probe: Submarines Off LI. By R.E. Kessler, 03/22/97. http://www.newsday.com/jet/cras0322.htm [12] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Missile Attack a Favorite of Conspiracy Theorists. 09/03/96. [13] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Document Says Navy Hit TWA Plane. By Jocelyn Noveck, 11/08/96. [14] NEWSDAY: The Story So Far. By Craig Gordon, Lima Pleven, 08/20/96. http://www.newsday.com/jet/jemyst20.htm [15] ASSOCIATED PRESS: FBI Says Mystery Blip on Radar Tape is Unarmed Navy Reconnaissance Plane. 03/21/97. [16] THE NEW AMERICAN: What Really Happened to TWA 800? By W. Jasper, 10/14/96. http://www.jbs.org/vo12no21.htm#TWA800 [17] NYANG says that the C-130 was in the area JAWS: http://www.infoshop.com/106rescue/html/twa800-pres/sld002.html NYANG rep. James Finkle says JAWS is 10 miles offshore: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html [18] NYANG rep. James Finkle says the C-130 was not in JAWS: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html [19] In [1] the HH-60 is reported to have been offshore with the C-130, which the ANG says was in JAWS ten miles offshore, but then suddenly the HH-60 was moved over Gabreski Airport: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html I called AVIATION WEEK and was told that it was an NYANG representative who told them that the HH-60 was offshore. I was told that the NYANG rep. read the off shore 3,000 ft altitude location straight from Major Meyer's report. [20] http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/newsfour.html Visit these pages and copy their contents: http://www.ang.af.mil/angrc-xo/xoom/aargy96.htm http://www.ang.af.mil/angrc-xo/glbynk/partcpnt.htm http://www.rl.af.mil/Lab/C3/current-events/gy_rap1.jpg [21] The Downing of TWA Flight 800. By James Sanders, 1997. <smaller> </smaller>A pack of "unreferenced rumors"? HA! The media's presentation of Ian Goddard's TWA 800 inquiry is a Big Lie in full display. _____________________________________________ Ian Goddard <<igoddard(a)netkonnect.net> - -- Ultimately, a nation of people are governed as they wish to be governed. - Jon Dougherty ====================================================================== To post a new message to the list, send E-mail terrorism(a)mediccom.org. 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Arthritic aardvarks?
by doitnow＠t-1net.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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PGP 5.5 Conventional Encryption: Which Algorithm?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know what algorithm PGP 5.5 uses for conventional encryption? Also is PGP 5.5 capable of generating RSA keys of 4096 bits? Thanks.

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Quote from Mao
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

===== forwarded from the Canadian Firearms Digest mailing list ==== >"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" > - Mao Which is why the Liberals only want the state to have guns. - -keith Keith P. de Solla, P.Eng - NFA Field Officer kdesolla(a)cyberus.ca http://www.cyberus.ca/~kdesolla/eohc.htm -- Jean-Francois Avon, Pierrefonds(Montreal) QC Canada DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee Finest of Limoges porcelain and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants physicists and engineers, LabView programing. PGP encryption keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 ID# 5B51964D : 152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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Re: [OB: CRYTO] Re: about RC4
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ryan Anderson wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Anonymous wrote: > > > > (And they wonder why we kicked Japan's butt.) > > > Because they couldn't speak a non-native language perfectly? > > No...because they couldn't speak a 'Native' language perfectly. > > Cherokee! > Navajo, if I understand what reference you're making. :-) You are > referring to the practice of using Navajo Indians for much of the > top-secret communications during WWII, right? Right! It is em-bare-ass'ing to admit that my second 'guess' was going to be Comanche... I'm not too dumb to use a Search Engine, just too lazy.

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getting premail
by ichudov＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone know of a WORKING site where I can download premail from? kiwi...berkeley is refusing connections. thanxZ ignoramus

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Re: Is Anonymous Communication only for "Criminals"?
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>(Even the _ability_ to block a pay phone, qua pay phone, must imply that >pay phones send out some kind of signal announcing themselves as pay >phones, which I had not heard of before. I assumed a pay phone was Just >Another Phone Number.) Caller ID identifies most pay phones as "PAY PHONE".

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Re: Frank Olson
by Bruce Balden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At that time, snail mail was pretty safe even from the spooks (with certain precautions). So what's your point? If the military-industrial complex wants to ruin your life, it's the guns and fences and dogs that ultimately tell the story, cause your unbreakable cipher to be compromised yourself under truth drugs, etc. The bureaucractic mess surrounding key recovery would probably make most spooks look for much more low-tech methods of compromising your security. -----Original Message----- From: Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Date: Saturday, December 20, 1997 3:15 PM Subject: Frank Olson >I just saw a very interesting story on the Discovery Channel. > >In 1953 the US was actively pursuing bio warfare (a subject of current >interest to me). Frank Olson was a good bacteriologist working for the gubmint >(NIH?), in close contact with the CIA. One night he attended a work-related >party, where everyone acted strangely; the next day, he a) decided to resign >his job, b) discussed his classified bio warfare work with people on his car >pool. But the gubmint didn't accept his resignation and instead sent him to >NYC for a psychiatric evaluation. He was sharing a hotel room with a CIA >employee, who claims that he was woken up the sound of breaking glass: Frank >Olson supposedly jumped out the window. > >In 1975 it was revealed that at the party the attendees were given LSD without >their concent as part of a CIA experiment, which is why everyone was acting >strangely. Pres Ford issued an official apology to Olson's family and gave >them $750,000 in compensation. > >Now there's a new twist. In 1953, the gubmint insisted that Olson be buried in >a closed casket, claiming he had cuts and bruises on his face. The family >never saw him. In 1994 his son has the body exhumed and re-examined. There >were no cuts and bruises, but forensic evidence suggests very strongly that he >was hit with something over the head and then thrown out the window. The NYC >DA has now started a murder investigation. > >This has little crypto relevance, except for the bio warfare angle, and the >question: do you want these guys to have access to your cryptographic keys? > >--- > >Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM >Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Bulk Email For Profit
by hupiu79＠arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

****************************************************** MAIL THOUSANDS OF EMAIL MESSAGES PER HOUR - NO KIDDING !! SEND YOUR EMAIL MESSAGES OUT, AT 1,000's MESSAGES / HOUR (28.8K modem) YES, 1,000's Of Messages An Hour ****************************************************** MILLIONS OF EMAIL ADDRESSES ******** $100.00 ******* ****************************************************** YOU'LL RECEIVE 2 HIGH-SPEED EMAIL SOFTWARE PROGRAMS Introducing...."FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER" AND...."GOLDRUSH STEALTH MASS MAILER" This is the same software that all bulk emailing services use! ---------------------------------------------------- Floodgate Bulk Email Loader Version 5.2 AND Goldrush Stealth Mass Mailer Version 3.215 for Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 now Supports 17 (really more with the free form filter) File Formats ---------------------------------------------------- SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY! Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely swamped with email inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do. And each one of these bulk mailings costs me nothing. I can teach you how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll need. If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the floodgates. You'll be deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales, using nothing but email alone. Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite my marketing letters a half dozen times before I get the results I'm looking for. But once you have a good letter, as you probably know, you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month. It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to THOUSANDS of fresh email addresses. I can do this, thanks to a Windows program I use. It's called Floodgate and Goldrush Stealth Mass Mailer. It's a bulk email loader and an email software program. If you're interested in electronic marketing, you should know about these programs. PROGRAM #1: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone can download from CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet. These text files contain classified ads, forum messages, or data from the member directory. Each of these files is filled with email addresses. Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click. You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people or 10,000 people -- the cost is always the same. NOTHING! NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 20,000+ people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some people are always collecting new addresses, but if you publish a newsletter or adsheet, you'll be using the same addresses over and over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've previously collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of 50,000+ in less than a half hour. (To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.) The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut and paste the formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet account, how to create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have to think. It's that simple! FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned upon, and most service providers have rules against it. But, like jay-walking, there is little enforcement. It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the citation (and don't let them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it because it's not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And that's about it. About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list", which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back thanking me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people though, just reply and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three letters to close a sale. The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test and rewrite. Then, once you've got it, just push a few buttons, and open the floodgates!!! THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 17+ FILE FORMATS 1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running a classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any single ad category. This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every day and they're already in business. 2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15 minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales. 3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of forum messages in a matter of minutes. 4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good targeted lists. 5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of forum messages. More targeted lists. 6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send your marketing letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's of addresses per hour. 7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all member directories. Build huge targeted lists. 8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000 email addresses an hour. 9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for people based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can easily generate 5,000 addresses. 10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member directories. 11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses in the CIM file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your marketing letter to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard drive. 12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what you need. Just enter a key word to search for. 13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build targeted lists here. Each search can easily bring you 500+ addresses. 14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a lot of addresses very quickly from Genie. 15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge files and do selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that you might purchase. Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could include only email addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all noc, root, and other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are fully configurable and can be used together. BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you download from the same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new people. Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and prepare a mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to the Master File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows. You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new marketing campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on your Master List. If you write a newsletter, each time you send your newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a Master List. THE REMOVE LIST Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you will be operating your business with the most professionalism possible. DON'T BE FOOLED We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER....... **Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release. **Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation. **Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee. **Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use. **There is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far, the BEST technical support. SOME QUICK MATH Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few keystrokes away. Let's do the math: - Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours) - Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale. - Let's also say you only get a 1% response(occasionally higher). * That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters would do for your business !! WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE? You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it on-line. EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The SUPPLIED MANUAL tells you where to go, what to do, and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned with a little practice or help from our computer savvy technicians. PROGRAM #2: GOLDRUSH STEALTH MASS MAILER Do not get this program confused with other slow speed programs that call themselves "STEALTH". This program is the only one in the world that can send email out at HIGH SPEEDS with one single connection to the internet. This is NEW, Cutting Edge Email Technology. First Of It's Kind.. The Most Powerful BULK EMAIL SENDER In The World.. NOTHING CAN EVEN COME CLOSE! Thanks to our top programmer's, this technology is NOW available and we are the only place you can get it from! *ONLY "ONE" DIAL-UP OR ISDN CONNECTION NEEDED. *NO MORE TERMINATED CONNECTIONS. *NO MORE WAITING TO SEND LARGE AMOUNTS OF EMAIL. *IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO YOUR MASS MAILINGS. *YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE CONTROL AND CONFIDENCE OF SENDING EMAIL THE WAY IT SHOULD BE SENT... IN HUGE AMOUNTS! *SEND YOUR WHOLE LIST IN ONE DAY, WHETHER IT BE 500,000 OR 5 MILLION - AND JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR YOUR ORDERS TO POUR IN. *NO MORE DOWNLOADING UNDELIVERABLE NAMES. Bulk Emailer's Dream Come True!!! - >>>GOLDRUSH STEALTH MASS MAILER<<< Connect to multiple mail servers (20 or more), make multiple connections to a single server or any combination of the two ( All Simultaneously ) with one single dial-up connection. SEND MULTIPLE SIMULTANEOUS MAILINGS... View complete details about your mailings. 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This software will no doubt, add to your sales, for customers who don't have credit cards, as well as the impulse buyers. With this software, you can print up your payments as soon as your customer gives you his/her checking information. You will then add the information given, to the proper blank check spaces, then just print and go to the bank!! *************************************************** To get your FREE demo and "test drive" our state-of-the-art software, visit our web site at: http://www.t-1net.com/floodgate **************************************************** HURRY ... RESERVE YOURS TODAY! So, if you are interested in taking advantage of the most powerful bulk email software in the world and start making money hand over fist..... Print out the EZ ORDER form below and FAX or MAIL it to our office. 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Re: Fwd: Dec. 16 column -- Bill of Rights
by David Orgel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 12/20/97 5:08 PM EST (-0500), Brian B. Riley wrote: >To their credit, Aaron Zelman and J.E. Simkin of the little >Milwaukee-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ... Oy vey. (I'm sort of average height and not based in Milwaukee, so they probably wouldn't let me in.) --David

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RE: ECB, CBC, CFB, OFB
by Johnson, Michael P (Mike) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Somebody asked: >>Can somebody more experienced than I am explain the strengths and weaknesses >>of these encryption modes as applied to CAST, IDEA, DES, and Blowfish? > >> ecb Electronic codebook mode >> c[i] = f1(K, p[i]) >> p[i] = f2(K, c[i]) This is the weakest mode. Patterns in the plain text tend to cause repeated blocks in the output, causing some information leakage. This mode is really only suitable if you have exactly one block or less to encrypt or if random access at the block level is critical. An error in the ciphertext or plaintext only affects one block, as long as bit count integrity is maintained. >> cbc Ciphertext block chaining mode >> c[i] = f1(K, p[i]) ^ c[i-1] >> p[i] = f2(K, c[i]) ^ c[i-1] This is good at preventing information leakage. A one bit error in the ciphertext causes a one block error in the plain text => reasonable balance between tamper detection and error resistance. This mode is commonly used. >> cfb Ciphertext feeback mode >> c[i] = f1(K, c[i-1]) ^ p[i] >> p[i] = f1(K, c[i-1]) ^ c[i] This is good at preventing information leakage. A one bit error in the ciphertext causes a one bit error in the plain text => good for use in high noise environments where error detection and correction is (inexplicably) not used and tamper detection is not as critical. Doesn't require a decryption mode, so a hash function like SHA1 could be used in this mode instead of a general block cipher. >> ofb Output feeback mode >> h[i] = f1(K, h[i-1]) >> c[i] = p[i] ^ h[i] >> p[i] = c[i] ^ h[i] This mode essentially turns a block cipher into a stream cipher without feedback. It must be used with the same caution as such a cipher. In other words, the same stream should not be reused, but a new starting point (initialization vector = h[-1]) and/or key should be chosen for each message. No padding or data size expansion is necessary. Several other modes are possible... For really slow performance, you can try some kind of key feedback. :-) K[i] = K[i-1] ^ p[i-1] or maybe K[i] = e(K[i-1], K[i-2]) c[i] = e(K[i], p[i]) p[i] = d(K[i], c[i]) Caution: bizarre modes may not be well analyzed... although I think some key feedback modes have merit when you are trying to slow an attacker down. They might really mess up specialized cracking hardware. :-)

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World SpyMonger System [WAS NEVER: The Last Lamer CypherPunk]
by Six 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri(a)netcom.com> >- ---------------------------------------------------------- >>Daily Telegraph Connected Supplement 16th December 1997 >> >>A European Commission report warns that the United States has developed an >>extensive spying network on European Citizens and we should all be worried, >>reports Simon Davies. >> >>A global electronic spy network that can eavesdrop on every telephone,email >>and telex communication around the world will be officially acknowledged >>for the first time in a European Commission report to be delivered this >>week. On a mailing list whose subscribers are alleged to include the last of a variety of dying breeds [Last True CypherPunk, Last Canadian Outlaw, Last Anarchist], it is no doubt inevitable that the Last Lamer CypherPunk must also be among the current ranks. How can you tell if *you* are the Last Lamer CypherPunk? Were you surprised to find out that Knixon knew? Were you surprised to find out that RSA was 'developed' <hee, hee> with funding by Naval Intelligence after *years* of experimentation and use by British Intelligence? Were you surprised to find out that unelected representatives of secret agencies are involved in worldwide monitoring and manipulation of all communications and financial transactions? Do you plan to be surprised when fallout from the Y2K problem turns out to be the definitive excuse for instituting a global, financial New World Order? If you can answer "Yes" to all of the above questions, you may be the Last Lamer CypherPunk. >>Until now evidence of such astounding technology has been patchy and >>anecdotal. For those living in LamerWorld, maybe. I was aware of the details currently being 'discovered' when I was eight years old. I was also playing with IRS source code at that age, studying the Millennium Bug. >>"The Echelon system forms part of the UKUSA system but unlike many of the >>electronic spy sysfems developed during the Cold War, Echelon is designed >>primarily for non-military targets: governments, organizations and >>businesses in virtually every country. In other words, while list members are decrying Tim C. May's use of the phrase, "broken eggs and all that," in reference to his "other brother Timmy's" political statement, the targets of McVeigh's wrath are busily at work in another government building (still hiding behind children) deciding which individuals, businesses, governments and countries will live, and which ones will die. >>Former signals intelligence operatives have claimed that spy bases control >>led by America have the ability to search nearly all data communications >>for kev words. They claim that Echelon automatically analyses most email >>messaging for "precursor". data which assists intelligence agencies to >>determine targets. Of course, those who have been disseminating manuscripts concerning this activity across the InterNet for almost a decade are still considered fringe lunatics. This will still no doubt be the case when the clock strikes midnight on Dec. 31, 1999, at which time the prophecy that "Gomez is coming" will be fulfilled as described in 1989, in the opening chapter of "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre": "His Login is Panic His Password is Crash When Time is of Essence He'll Rise from the Ash." >>The driving force behind the report is Glyn Ford. Labour MEP for Greater >>Manchester East. He believes the report is crucial to the future of civil >>liberties in Europe. >>"There are times in history when technology helps democratise, and times >>when it helps centralise. This is a time of centralisation. The justice >>and home affairs pillar of Europe has become more powerful without a >>corresponding strengthening of civil liberties." This time, it is global--it is for "all the marbles." Anyone who still believes that the "Forces of Light" and "Dark Allies" analogies in 'The True Story of the InterNet' are frivolous, should just turn on the TV and go back to sleep. Anyone who fails to see that the encryption, anonymity and privacy issues dealt with on the CypherPunks list will soon be literal life-and-death issues in the near future needs to send their private keys to the government immediately, so that they can 'save' you more efficiently in the future. >>Glyn Ford hopes his report may be the first step in a long road to more >>openness. "Some democratically elected body should surely have a right to >>know at some level. At the monment that's nowhere." If you are waiting for "some democratically elected body" to 'save' you from the 'bad guys', then you may well be the Last Lamer CypherPunk (TM). The Revolution Is Now! Sixual Deviate CypherKid Cult of One |<---->| 8"

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Re: Automatic Translations
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just out of curiosity I ran a paragraph of one of Bob H's wordy pieces through a few translations and, son of a bitch! if it didn't become clearer! "The similarities are still the small for the things as hashcash or or to a larger MicroMint. As modernities, which are applicable in meatspace, it is economic 'the expensive Minze' first modernity the gift of the electrical noises, but the remainder vanishingly. Although it it, which it would estimate in the value, which something is left, without regulation to it says the duration of the loop to this. It is, because the alternative of the costs of everything occurs inflamed to inside and this of. If the right of the value is not only repaired to the useful articles, qualcun another and Arbitraging in the whole case begins. Scalpers the card is a traditional example of this. The sources of the trade to the resistance press it ulteriorly, in the height production, qualcun another, I, appear out."

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A Business Opportunity just for You...
by busniess_123jst＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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This multi-level e-mail order marketing program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. E-mail is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using e-mail. Get your piece of this action!!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and the Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold through multi-level methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the U.S., 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happend in my life and I am writing to share the experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER FINANCIALLY!!! In mid December, I received this program via e-mail. Six month's prior to receiving this program I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they would work or not. One claimed that I would make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it! But like I was saying, in December of 1995 I received this program. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further into debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. After determining the program was LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT." Initially I sent out 10,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I don't need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me! In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15-20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $50,000 in 20-90 days was done. By January 30, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100+ ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 19, of my e-mailing of 10,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER!!! Remember, it won't work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It won't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee, 15-20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100+ orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $50,000 or more in 20-90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS!!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I am sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and are if financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Christopher Erickson P.S. Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000) look like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: By the time you have read the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for 10 years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successfull for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happend to the unemployment rate... because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of this money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over 4 MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices that make this and several other programs here and over seas. By the spring we wish to market the "internet" by a partnership with AMERICA ON LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those 0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The 0.5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The 0.5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 $5 bills for you. CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and e-mail is FREE!!! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing and obtaining e-mail lists. INSTRUCTIONS: We at Erris Mail Order Marketing Businesses, have a method of raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERYTIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20-90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four (4) REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four (4) names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the REPORT requested to the person you are ordering it from. You will need ALL FOUR (4) REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with yours, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 TO REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and the address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY!!! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the requested changes in the NAME list, save it as text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever e-mail program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk e-mailing and acquiring e-mail lists. Step (4) E-mail a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, e-mail to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get e-mail addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in e-mail mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four (4) REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS: ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER. ____________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Ekrit T. 4470 Sunset Blvd. # 731 Los Angeles, CA 90027 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: KATHY SMITH 5312 S. E. 30 AVE OCALA, FL 34480-7524 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Liberty Publishing Inc. 2107 W. Commonwealth Ave. Dept.264 Alhambra, CA 91803 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: Kal Inc. P.O. Box 2433 Glenview, IL. 60025-2433 ____________________________________________________ CONCLUSION: I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20-90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that cost me pennies to produce and e-mail. I should also point out that this program is LEGAL and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or a pyramid scam. At times you probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four (4) FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luc

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(Last Call) -Big Year End Sale!!!-
by Call-NOW＠1-602-267-9688 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********************************* Linko -- P.O. Box 66781 -- Phoenix, AZ 85082 Phone (602)267-9688 Fax (602)275-1868 1-11pm (MST) - LAST CALL -- LAST CALL -- LAST CALL - *************************************** Greetings Business Owners & Managers, We welcome you to our "Years End Holiday Special"...." Sale of all Sales". We are slashing the prices to the bare bones on all of our Commercial Bulk E-mail Services and the prices of all our E-mail lists. The prices stated below will remain in effect until midnight January 1, 1998. If you would like to order please call Linko at (602)267-9688 to discuss the details. We accept checks by phone or fax. We will be raising our prices slightly in 1998. Order now!!! ******************** Commercial E-mail Service Rates: We will mail your two page sales letter,(80 lines total), to our best lists for the prices stated below. If you want us to send a longer message please add 20% for each extra page. Bulk e-mail to 100,000 General List.. Reg. $79.95.. Sale price $49.95 Bulk e-mail to 50,000 General List... Reg. $59.95.. Sale price $29.95 Bulk e-mail to 100,000 Biz-owners.. Reg. $199.95.. Sale price $129.95 Bulk e-mail to 50,000 Biz-owners....Reg. $129.95.. Sale price $69.95 Bulk e-mail to 50,000 MLM List... Reg. $139.95.... Sale price $79.95 Bulk e-mail to 25,000 MLM List... Reg. $99.95..... Sale price $59.95 Bulk e-mail to 5,000 MLM List.... Reg. $39.95..... Sale price $24.95 Bulk mail to custom lists is also available in some cases. Please call to discuss building of special custom lists. ***** NOBODY BUT NOBODY BEATS OUR COMMERCIAL E-MAIL PRICES **** ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** GOOD QUALITY E-MAIL LISTS: 100,000 GENERAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $19.95.... Sale price $9.95 500,000 GENERAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $59.95.... Sale price $29.95 10,000 BIZ OWNERS E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $39.95... Sale Price $19.95 25,000 BIZ OWNERS E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $59.95... Sale Price $29.95 50,000 BIZ OWNERS E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $79.95... Sale Price $39.95 5,000 MLM E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG.. $29.95......... Sale Price $14.95 25,000 MLM E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $99.95......... Sale Price $49.95 50,000 MLM E-MAIL ADDRESSES REG. $139.95........ Sale Price $69.95 *ALL LISTS ARE MAILED U.S.P.S. WITH ONE ON A LINE IN .TXT FORMAT* *** 1.4 MG - 3-1/2" DISKETTE *** ***** DON'T FORGET.... THIS SALE ENDS January 1, 1998 ***** ****** YOUR BUSINESS IS APPRECIATED...... THANKS ******* ******************************************************************

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Re: Why I Support Microsoft
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The NYT reports today on the MS-DoJ case and notes that Microsoft has opposed the administration on several issues -- one being encryption -- which have captured the attention of publicity-seeking legislators as well. Another NYT report is on Microsoft's past neglect of major lobbying of the government and bigtime contribution to PACs, in contrast to other industrial giants, and that MS it is fast coming around on both counts now, with big bucks being poured into DC coffers of PR firms. (Could this beneficence be the incentive of $ieger and $habbar?) The report notes that Microsoft is for the first time beginning to consider that it cannot continue to grow without coming to terms with the USG, the lesson all the giants have learned so well and are happy to see Bill Gates cut down to fit the mold. Now, was it not the case that not too long ago Microsoft was allegedly funding the strong crypto bills? And is a plea bargain in the works for MS sentence of worldwide GAK in Explorer?

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Re: Making them eat their words... (while they watch!)
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A federal judge Friday told Microsoft > Corp. he easily uninstalled the company's Web browser > without breaking Windows 95 and ordered company officials to > explain why they could not do the same. "Windows 95 > functioned flawlessly" with Internet Explorer uninstalled, > U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson told Microsoft. > mistake #1: dont piss off a federal judge --let alone try to show that he is ignorant. > After the hearing, Brad Smith, associate general counsel of > Microsoft, was asked about news reports speculating that the > company might settle the case. > > "There's no discussion that I'm aware of," he said in a > telephone interview, adding that he probably would know > about such discussions. "The case is continuing." > this is my one big fear: the DOJ will accept a plea bargain like they did last time and it will be back to business as usual for M$ --and they will be back in court within a year having gained even more horizontal and vertical control of the entire communications and information industries --and claiming again that they are misunderstood --and complying with the order, etc. there is only one solution to organizations like M$ which are operated without ethics: treat them to the pleasures of not only the antitrust laws but the exquisite delights of RICO. M$ is a cancer; it has fully metasticized and is gorging itself at the banquet of the vanquished. if the legal juggernaut keeps building momentum at the current rate, there will hopefully be no alternative to carry the investigation to its culmination after the report of the special master in May. the appointment of the special master was a clear indication that the judge wishes to get at the bottom of the tank and examine the underpinnings and motivations of M$ total modus operandi --yes, and M$ is crying foul that the judge is going past the original complaint of the DOJ --but, despite M$' claims, the judge is giving M$ time to be heard --six months. seems to me Jackson inherited the case from Royce Lamberth who was overruled and removed by the appeal court when he refused to OK the DOJ settlement in question. Gary Reback had a hand in educating Lambert to the dangers of M$. Is Reback representing anyone in the case before Jackson as an intervener or in an amicus curiae brief? Lambert's at it again --taking the government head on over Hillary's obfuscation over her health care committee-- "The White House and lawyers defending first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton lied in an effort to keep internal working papers used to develop President Clinton's universal health care plan in 1993 secret, a federal judge said Thursday. "Using blunt language in a written order, U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth also accused administration officials at "the highest levels of government" of engaging in a "cover-up" and pressuring the Justice Department to defend its "dishonest" actions." anyway, just think where M$ would be with Royce today! Gate$ and Ballmer might be down at the local MCC for a few free 3 hots and a cot, all expenses paid, "enjoying" a well earned vacation from screwing all of us. Other than the usual ills of a monopoly, what really irks anyone with a modicum of intelligence is that Gate$ intends to migrate the entire package for the benefit of the couch potatoes; Gate$ intends to dictate not only what we use to view his trash, but that only his trash is splashed. > Smith also said that the uninstall mechanism described by > the judge actually left 97 percent of Internet Explorer > intact, removing little more than the "icon" on the screen > known as the "desktop." > so? M$ can fill any hard disk --the more powerful the computer, the more energy the pretty program loader on a boot sector virus base requires. what's a few spare bytes here and there? So, Mr. Smith, just tell us what files are useless and we'll delete them too. > He said that despite what Jackson said about the program > functioning flawlessly, the removal breaks a couple of > functions in Windows 95, such as the ability to easily > download other Web browsers. Smith said Windows 95 is a > technologicially complex product that is best left alone > by the government. "You simply can't slice and dice it > with a legal meat cleaver," Smith said. > well, maybe we can just "slice and dice it" right out the market place. his arguments are pure mumbo jumbo for the unwashed --or, more of Gate$' usual arrogance. > well, of course, you can not pull a web download if you remove the browser... but you can get it with ftp, rz, or standard mail via your ISP (if Netscape wants to make it available that way). more blowing of smoke as usual. M$ would like us to believe that removing Explorer means that PPP, etc. plus basic net utilities must be removed as well. the browser is not the only program that uses the PPP or wired connection. whether or not the judge just removed the icon or not becomes irrelevant rather quickly... the point is that he took the trouble to look at the issue after the DOJ came in complaining that M$ was giving him the freeway salute (both hands off the wheel, too). Secondly, a judge is not prohibited from reading news analysis of the technical issues involved --particularly since the news articles are reflecting the complaints of the competition which has been injured by M$' actions, and the user groups who are complaining about all of M$' competition being literally expunged from the marketplace by M$' predatory actions. all of the news material is clearly relevant in an antitrust action. Even the NYTimes stated in an editorial M$ was defying the judges order and mocking the whole process. > The Justice Department, however, is beefing up its legal > team. It has retained David Boies, a highly regarded New > York lawyer, to help try the case against Microsoft. > yes, I would say they are serious, and paying close to $300 per hour for his time --but only half his usual rate. keep in mind that his fee is just the tip of the iceberg --consider the enormous staff the man will require just to paw through and analyze the mountains of information on both sides plus the obvious tactic of burying the case in even more mounds of paperwork from M$' legal flunkies, which probably number between 200 and 500 full blown lawyers culled from most of the prestigious firms in the US. then add support staff, researchers, clerks, etc.... I doubt Boies will use that many DOJ staff attorneys --lack of performance as the good ones leave after the initial intern experience for the extra bucks in private firms on the other side of the table. only the lazy and incompetent hang around the DOJ for a career. > After the hearing Friday, Christine Varney, a former Federal > Trade Commissioner now representing Netscape, was jubilant. > "I think the judge has understood the seriousness of the > issue," she said. > she had every reason to be jubilant --so far. even if the judge did not fully understand the technological bullshit M$ was trying to slide on by, the judge fully understands that M$ was trying to blind pitch him --and insulting him to boot. M$' freeway saluting of the judge may have changed the destiny of M$ by that very action. Gate$ pulled his usual arrogance out of his ass and slapped it on the table presuming everybody knew he was the smartest kid on the block --and his shit did not stink. > Microsoft stock closed at $128.69, down $2.19 on NASDAQ, > where it was among the most active issues. > yes, down almost 20 points since their fiasco with the DOJ started. before it's over, I hope to see M$ listed with the junk bonds and issues --in the penny stocks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNJt2FbR8UA6T6u61AQHtVAH/ZuVzmKu+we/vRObBClOVAtqYmLPQmykh 9CzsID7+HETw6/2bkYCL5JXNy12JoyenB19XvYai6WtMt24dCLh0fQ== =sf18 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hee Haw! DOJ hires big bad dog for M$ kill!
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hee Haw! DOJ hires big bad dog for M$ kill! http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/reut/1219/265045.html "The Justice Department has hired New York superlawyer David Boies to help the government win its antitrust case against Microsoft Corp, "...the government's decision to hire Boies signaled its determination to win its case...." Reuters December 19, 1997 7:30 AM PS Sic 'Em. Rover! now that is fair use! [double your bubble, too] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNJqmwLR8UA6T6u61AQFPPAH9GQO2WadcPR+QHS2AQew0jzfM+qBbNG22 B94sIsMfoptfKoiGNavXKT6C9vIe6p499SWtTxz1FggydiKZBwS7tg== =8Mmz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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fuckin' M$ blowing smoke blown
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

this is more than fair use, but worth the read --and I am too lazy and short of time this morning to condense it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> fuckin' M$ blowing smoke blown Microsoft claim debunked! By Michael Caton December 18, 1997 5:54 PM PST PC Week Online When Ronald Reagan's facts were in contradiction with reality, he would later claim that he "misspoke." Microsoft Corp. misspoke this week when it asserted that Internet Explorer cannot be removed from Windows 95. In a letter to the U.S. Department of Justice and in press releases issued this week, Microsoft officials said IE 3.0 is an integrated component of the Windows 95 operating system, as shipped in OSR (OEM Service Release) version 2. They further asserted that the removal of certain IE DLLs from OSR 2 would render the operating system unbootable. PC Week Labs' tests have shown that this is not the case. Using copies of OSR 2 CDs provided with OEM PCs, we merely modified four lines in one of the Windows 95 setup files to prevent IE 3.0 from installing. This modification had no impact on the operating system's capabilities or performance. Instead of the install script overwriting Windows 95 DLLs with files from IE 3.0, the original Windows 95 DLLs remained intact. Moreover, significant OSR 2 features, like the FAT32 file system, remained intact using our modified install program. Microsoft would likely disagree, but our experience with Windows 95 and recent tests of Windows 98 show that the operating systems are much better suited for corporate deployment without the browser. Removing IE 4.0 from Windows 98 in particular eliminates the very features that will incur the most costs in a corporate setting: Active Desktop, channels and the Web-based Windows System Update. The Active Desktop user interface, for example, differs significantly from Windows 95 and will require considerable user retraining. If Microsoft prevails and includes IE 4.0 with the shipping version of Windows 98, it is easy enough to disable Active Desktop using either administration tools or by modifying the user interface directly. The end result will be the same user interface as Windows 95. With their current focus on entertainment, the channels feature afforded by IE 4.0 in Windows 98 likewise is not ready for corporate prime time. System Update--which uses ActiveX controls to scan a Windows 98 system to determine if it has out-of-date software and drivers-is compelling in consumer applications but will be a poor match in a corporate setting. A better solution than users upgrading their own systems when they see fit would be to push the updates to all applicable clients at once, so that software versions are consistent across large numbers of clients. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNJqjhbR8UA6T6u61AQEGPgH/Wljd7RZBMqeq0PjdHJSHKvh5EHb3a/JI 7m41g58jHJTDh0N3HW3sFUqXfPaj4zxabdVXNXE8adcm6AwRxCAJig== =qg6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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true in the near term: "Why M$ has won" (I@week)
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> this echos my feelings on what actions Gates will take in the near term. frankly, the sooner he does it, the better off we will be --this needs to be done before the special master makes his recommendations in May and Gate$' actions will hopefully incense enough people that they will ask for his head on a platter. --the issue in my mind is that the wheels of justice turn too slowly. Why Bill Gates won By Tom Steinert-Threlkeld December 12, 1997 5:11 PM PST Inter@ctive Week Online Netscape Communications Corp.'s stock finished up 6 percent Friday and Microsoft Corp.'s fell 1.7 percent. While still early in the game, it may be that Netscape's shareholders are applauding U.S. District Court Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson too soon. In the meantime, Microsoft's owners may be the ones that should be shaking his hand. Best as these eyes can tell, nothing in the 19-page ruling issued late Thursday says Microsoft can't bundle its Internet Explorer browser with its Windows operating system. Nor does anything in the ruling say Microsoft can't integrate its browser into its operating system. Instead, it says it can't use licensing tactics to achieve a dominance in browsers. "Whether or not the government has correctly defined Microsoft's intentions, the probability that Microsoft will not only continue to reinforce its operating system monopoly by its licensing practices, but might also acquire yet another monopoly in the Internet browser market, is simply too great to tolerate indefinitely until the issue is finally resolved." So, it can't coerce computer makers to license the IE browser as a condition of licensing the Windows operating system, forcing them to install both onto the machines they sell to the public. If "licensing practices'' turns out to be the crux of all this, big deal. That simply gives Jim Barksdale and his jubilant troops a few months in which to try and work new deals with computer makers before Microsoft gets really aggressive. After all, what Judge Jackson has done is given Microsoft a better view of the playing field before it. It clearly will not be able to argue effectively that a product that it also sells as a stand-alone product to PC users can be considered an "integral element'' of the machine's operating system. Duh. So, now, if you're in Bill Gates' typically ultra-aggressive shoes, does this slow you down? No, it could speed you up. You simply come out with your fully integrated operating system, where the features of the browser are built-in essentials. You dissipate demand for the browser as a separate product. Of course, this puts, as SoftLetter publisher Jeffrey Tarter puts it, "tremendous pressure on them [Microsoft] to integrate the products fully, so there's no question that IE is not a separate product.'' But, if you're Mr. Bill with a 90 percent share of the desktop operating system market, isn't that the goal anyway? As soon as you release Windows 98, you simply stop selling IE as an independent product. Cede, for a while anyway, the Unix and Mac markets to Netscape. And then see whether the market does marginalize the market for an independent product called a browser - where there already are no margins today. Then, to keep up with Netscape's "high-performance'' browser (which you start to call a "utility"), you simply update your operating system more often. Windows June, perhaps? Microsoft simply achieves, over a longer period of time, the dominance it sought anyway. Only the clock starts ticking sooner than if it had left IE as an independent product. Computer makers are not going to stop providing their customers with an operating system. The Department of Justice and Microsoft's Silicon Valley opponents, of course, will try to push the point that browsers must stay separate. But it's unclear how strong the legal lineage is behind the idea that once a product is an independent product, it always must stay an independent product. If you're Bill Gates, do you sit back and wait to see how this issue resolves itself in court? Or do you push down the pedal in the marketplace. You'd have to believe he's shown his inclination many times in the past. And his shareholders count themselves the beneficiaries. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNJfkD7R8UA6T6u61AQFTTAH9Fh/Mp/QluofgTSebYMRTz+t5eie3KEu6 3xM7nC7SPAUZPA0z4mlrWkdnKm+IPwRGqWbCDo/cAO0bnFipdDFr6Q== =0Xyp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: "The Right to Read" by Richard Stallman
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- unfortunately, Stallman's "The Right to Read" is no longer science fiction. Clinton signed the revised copyright law, with the abridgement of fair use, punishable by rather draconian fines, the 16th. technically, it is quite feasible to force the use of the "thin client" which can contain unmodifiable firmware identification and authentication. add an LCD minicam to the CPU coded monitor and retinal identification can be employed. Dan and Lissa joined the Luna revolution when they were unable to read the research papers after their student grants expired and the thin client workstations banned their own writings without a captive association. MicroSoft refused to store their data without a government license, and paper copies were banned. Dan and Lissa were aboard the last passenger capsule before the government initiated non-consenual innoculation with a temperature variation powered data ID microchip under the skin of your right wrist. notes: 1. _if_ history is written accurately (even if it is slanted to be Clinton correct), it will show that FDR changed the American government and financial management, and Clinton destroyed the freedom of information. inevitable, I suppose, since Hillary communes with Eleanor. 2. Microsoft actually has a proposal out to major companies to provide massive data farm banks... just adding another chink in Billy's drive to control information --the ultimate aphrodisiac. - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 02:41:21 -0500 From: Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.ai.mit.edu> To: declan(a)well.com Subject: Re: Feb CACM Here is my CACM story. It is my first published work of science fiction. Copyright (C) 1996 Richard Stallman Verbatim copying is permitted provided this notice is preserved. This article appeared in the February 1997 issue of Communications of the ACM (Volume 40, Number 2). The Right to Read by Richard Stallman (from "The Road To Tycho", a collection of articles about the antecedents of the Lunarian Revolution, published in Luna City in 2096) For Dan Halbert, the road to Tycho began in college--when Lissa Lenz asked to borrow his computer. Hers had broken down, and unless she could borrow another, she would fail her midterm project. There was no one she dared ask, except Dan. This put Dan in a dilemma. He had to help her--but if he lent her his computer, she might read his books. Aside from the fact that you could go to prison for many years for letting someone else read your books, the very idea shocked him at first. Like everyone, he had been taught since elementary school that sharing books was nasty and wrong--something that only pirates would do. And there wasn't much chance that the SPA--the Software Protection Authority--would fail to catch him. In his software class, Dan had learned that each book had a copyright monitor that reported when and where it was read, and by whom, to Central Licensing. (They used this information to catch reading pirates, but also to sell personal interest profiles to retailers.) The next time his computer was networked, Central Licensing would find out. He, as computer owner, would receive the harshest punishment--for not taking pains to prevent the crime. Of course, Lissa did not necessarily intend to read his books. She might want the computer only to write her midterm. But Dan knew she came from a middle-class family and could hardly afford the tuition, let alone her reading fees. Reading his books might be the only way she could graduate. He understood this situation; he himself had had to borrow to pay for all the research papers he read. (10% of those fees went to the researchers who wrote the papers; since Dan aimed for an academic career, he could hope that his own research papers, if frequently referenced, would bring in enough to repay this loan.) Later on, Dan would learn there was a time when anyone could go to the library and read journal articles, and even books, without having to pay. There were independent scholars who read thousands of pages without government library grants. But in the 1990s, both commercial and nonprofit journal publishers had begun charging fees for access. By 2047, libraries offering free public access to scholarly literature were a dim memory. There were ways, of course, to get around the SPA and Central Licensing. They were themselves illegal. Dan had had a classmate in software, Frank Martucci, who had obtained an illicit debugging tool, and used it to skip over the copyright monitor code when reading books. But he had told too many friends about it, and one of them turned him in to the SPA for a reward (students deep in debt were easily tempted into betrayal). In 2047, Frank was in prison, not for pirate reading, but for possessing a debugger. Dan would later learn that there was a time when anyone could have debugging tools. There were even free debugging tools available on CD or downloadable over the net. But ordinary users started using them to bypass copyright monitors, and eventually a judge ruled that this had become their principal use in actual practice. This meant they were illegal; the debuggers' developers were sent to prison. Programmers still needed debugging tools, of course, but debugger vendors in 2047 distributed numbered copies only, and only to officially licensed and bonded programmers. The debugger Dan used in software class was kept behind a special firewall so that it could be used only for class exercises. It was also possible to bypass the copyright monitors by installing a modified system kernel. Dan would eventually find out about the free kernels, even entire free operating systems, that had existed around the turn of the century. But not only were they illegal, like debuggers--you could not install one if you had one, without knowing your computer's root password. And neither the FBI nor Microsoft Support would tell you that. Dan concluded that he couldn't simply lend Lissa his computer. But he couldn't refuse to help her, because he loved her. Every chance to speak with her filled him with delight. And that she chose him to ask for help, that could mean she loved him too. Dan resolved the dilemma by doing something even more unthinkable--he lent her the computer, and told her his password. This way, if Lissa read his books, Central Licensing would think he was reading them. It was still a crime, but the SPA would not automatically find out about it. They would only find out if Lissa reported him. Of course, if the school ever found out that he had given Lissa his own password, it would be curtains for both of them as students, regardless of what she had used it for. School policy was that any interference with their means of monitoring students' computer use was grounds for disciplinary action. It didn't matter whether you did anything harmful--the offense was making it hard for the administrators to check on you. They assumed this meant you were doing something else forbidden, and they did not need to know what it was. Students were not usually expelled for this--not directly. Instead they were banned from the school computer systems, and would inevitably fail all their classes. Later, Dan would learn that this kind of university policy started only in the 1980s, when university students in large numbers began using computers. Previously, universities maintained a different approach to student discipline; they punished activities that were harmful, not those that merely raised suspicion. Lissa did not report Dan to the SPA. His decision to help her led to their marriage, and also led them to question what they had been taught about piracy as children. The couple began reading about the history of copyright, about the Soviet Union and its restrictions on copying, and even the original United States Constitution. They moved to Luna, where they found others who had likewise gravitated away from the long arm of the SPA. When the Tycho Uprising began in 2062, the universal right to read soon became one of its central aims. Author's Note: The right to read is a battle being fought today. Although it may take 50 years for our present way of life to fade into obscurity, most of the specific laws and practices described above have already been proposed--either by the Clinton Administration or by publishers. There is one exception: the idea that the FBI and Microsoft will keep the root passwords for personal computers. This is an extrapolation from the Clipper chip and similar Clinton Administration key-escrow proposals, together with a long-term trend: computer systems are increasingly set up to give absentee operators control over the people actually using the computer system. The SPA, which actually stands for Software Publisher's Association, is not today an official police force. Unofficially, it acts like one. It invites people to inform on their coworkers and friends; like the Clinton Administration, it advocates a policy of collective responsibility whereby computer owners must actively enforce copyright or be punished. The SPA is currently threatening small Internet service providers, demanding they permit the SPA to monitor all users. Most ISPs surrender when threatened, because they cannot afford to fight back in court. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 1 Oct 96, D3.) At least one ISP, Community ConneXion in Oakland CA, refused the demand and was actually sued (https://www.c2.net/ispdc/) The SPA is said to have dropped this suit recently, but they are sure to continue the campaign in various other ways. The university security policies described above are not imaginary. For example, a computer at one Chicago-area university prints this message when you log in (quotation marks are in the original): "This system is for the use of authorized users only. Individuals using this computer system without authority or in the excess of their authority are subject to having all their activities on this system monitored and recorded by system personnel. In the course of monitoring individuals improperly using this system or in the course of system maintenance, the activities of authorized user may also be monitored. Anyone using this system expressly consents to such monitoring and is advised that if such monitoring reveals possible evidence of illegal activity or violation of University regulations system personnel may provide the evidence of such monitoring to University authorities and/or law enforcement officials." This is an interesting approach to the Fourth Amendment: pressure most everyone to agree, in advance, to waive their rights under it. References: The administration's "White Paper": Information Infrastructure Task Force, Intellectual Property and the National Information Infrastructure: The Report of the Working Group on Intellectual Property Rights (1995). An explanation of the White Paper: The Copyright Grab, Pamela Samuelson, Wired, Jan. 1996 (http://www.hotwired.com/wired 4.01/features/whitepaper.html). Sold Out, James Boyle, New York Times, 31 March 1996 (http://www.ese.ogi.edu/sold.out.html) Public Data or Private Data, Washington Post, 4 Nov 1996 (http://wp2.washingtonpost.com/cgi-bin/displaySearch?WPlate+33653+%28databas… geneva%29%3Adescription%26and%2619961102%3Cevent%5Fdate). Union for the Public Domain--a new organization which aims to resist and reverse the overextension of intellectual property powers. For more information, see http://www.public-domain.org/. Bio: Richard Stallman received the 1990 ACM Grace Murray Hopper award for developing GNU Emacs. He is also the author of the free symbolic debugger GDB, and founded the project to develop the free GNU operating system. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNJ1Q1LR8UA6T6u61AQGpJwH+IZSj9oeAsjl3o9ikGH8a/BESVPNqew94 bHJkfS6+CA9n79GZhgZ6goej4z023gx/evuHHqqTL9UQDNroOWQFHA== =d7kR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Completely anonymous communications ARE only for "Criminals"
by Charlie Comsec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- gburnore(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > :That's the whole point of using remailers -- so that some country that wants > :to be tyrranical can't hunt down someone in another country that does something > :it considers "politically incorrect". If something annoys you, then stop > :reading it. Killfile the author. Killfile all remailers if you like. Don't > :use dynamite (pun intended) to exterminate cockroaches. > > So what do you do in those instances where you're slandered continously in > USENet by someone posting anonymously. In the non-cyber world, the speaker > would be held responsible. Who's held responsible when it's commited in > USENet? I'm assuming that you really meant to refer to libel (written) rather than slander (verbal). I suspect that there is very little that can be done, and that holds true for non-anonymous posts as well. Just looking at some of the massive cross-posts with subject lines that say "So-and-so is a pedophile" (some of them with Netcom addresses who seem to be able to hang onto their accounts despite making such accusations), I'd say that usenet is a different ballgame from the print media where for-profit publishers have deeper pockets. The problem with tort laws is that to successfully sue for libel you have to prove damages as well as prove that what was said was false. Thus, you'd have to prove to a jury that someone made a defamatory statement about you that was false, that people believed it, and that your reputation has suffered measurably as a result. Identifying the person who posted the message is only a small part of the problem. Moreover, if the plaintiff has attained the status of a "public figure", he has to prove additionally that the defendant KNOWINGLY and MAILICIOUSLY published FALSE information. Thus, if you said that Clinton sexually harassed Paula Jones, it's unlikely that the President could sue you and win. He'd have to prove that you knew the accusation was false and made it anyway with malicious intent. The problem with libel via usenet is that in order to win you'd have to prove that you had an impeccable reputation until someone defamed you with a usenet post, people believed the post, and now your name is mud because of it. An anonymous post would be even more problematic, since you'd have to persuade a jury that people who'd previously believed you to be a fine upstanding netizen were convinced otherwise by a nameless accuser. Usually the people who will believe dirt about someone are those who already suspect he's a no-good-so-and-so, so it'd be hard to make a legal case for his reputation being diminished. > :Are you offering to donate the disk space? If you can convince Hotmail and > :other providers to do what you're suggesting, and provided they properly > :inform all new and existing users of this new policy far enough in advance > :to make other plans if they so desire, I would not object. > > Hotmail DOES know who signs up and uses their mail service (at least the > connection information such as IP and provider. That's probably reason enough for someone who truly needs anonymity to avoid such a service. The problem is that once it's known that the identifying information exists somewhere, the keeper of that information becomes a target for coercion, bribery, hacking, burglary, etc. > :And if the remailer stored no information to tempt litigious individuals, > :firms, and governments, then that problem would be solved altogether. > It's the same principle that stores > :use when they leave their cash registers EMPTY and UNLOCKED at night. A thief > :will often cause more damage to the cash register breaking into it than the > :amount of the money that it contains. What you're suggesting is that the > :person's privacy be violated BEFORE any law is broken, just in case he MIGHT > :break a law later. > > There's still no way to do something even if the law has already been broken. If someone has already been convicted of an offense that involved the internet, it might be possible to suggest that one condition of any probation or parole be to avoid using the internet, similar to what happens when one is convicted of drunk driving. Many jurisdictions allow victim input into the sentencing/parole process. (I'm not advocating this, merely pointing out that it's possible.) > :It's your choice. Go visit the list of remailers currently in operation and > :count how many there are. If it's too much trouble for you to send a single > :block request, CCed to a dozen or so addresses, then you probably don't have > :a strong enough case to go to court, obtain a warrant or subpoena, either. > :By the time you go through that process, you'll have invested far more time > :and effort than sending an e-mail or two to prevent the problem. > > He's saying someone's harassing him. (Sounds like in USENet and Email) > Blocking your address only helps the email part. Not USENet. No, actually he was saying that he wasn't worrying about someone doing it TO HIM, but he was worrying (vicariously) about other potential victims. Yes, usenet is a different story and by its very nature it can never be totally offense-free. The best remedy there is to use a killfile, or even avoid some NGs altogether, especially unmoderated ones, where one is likely to be offended by what he reads. The problem is that devising workable solutions to problems that don't yet exist is much more difficult that resolving problems that do already exist. And that's doubly true if the person refuses to implement the preventive measures already suggested. It's sort of like saying, "Why should I be careful with that hot coffee? I'll just wait until it spills and injures me, then I can sue someone!" > :If it's not serious enough for you to request that your e-mail address > :be blocked, then why should the authorities think it's serious enough to > :devote the resources to hunt down your harasser? > > Blocking all remailers means you get _NO_ anonymous posts. Pretty serious when > you've only a problem with one abuser, no? It wasn't intended as universal advice. But since his premise was that 'Completely anonymous communications ARE only for "Criminals"', it seemed a wise precaution FOR HIM to take if he wanted to prevent any of those "criminals" from bothering him. > :If the only purpose of anonymous e-mail is to break the law, then why > :WOULDN'T you want to block it? Do you have some reason you'd want to hear > :from people you consider lawbreakers? > > I still think he's mistaken by thinking that all who post anonymously are > lawbreakers. I do too. But his premise was used to support his suggested remedy. If an anonymous user is NOT presumed to be a criminal, then you can't justify treating him like one. > It's like anything else in life, a few assholes ruining things > for everyone. So true ... of remailers, of Netcom and AOL accounts, usenet, and the internet in general. But they'll only ruin it if you let them. Trolls and flaming predate the internet itself and go back to Fidonet and BBSes in general. (I wouldn't doubt that people were lamenting the misuse of free speech back in ancient Greece.) It's sort of like cable TV. There's enough bandwidth (excluding outright spammers for the moment) that you can choose the "channels" with what you perceive to have a sufficient signal to noise ratio, and avoid the rest. Everyone has his own threshold. That's why many NGs come in both moderated and unmoderated flavors. > :> If someone really wants to send me email, there > :> is no way I can prevent it short of not allowing any untrusted > :> accounts to email me. And that's reducing my lifestyle. It's giving > :> in. > : > :That's your choice. The solution exists if you choose to use it. > > It's a lousy solution that only cures part of the problem. In an imperfect world, you often have to settle for the best you can get, being careful that you don't enact a cure that's worse than the disease. > :> Only within a single country. With an international network like this > :> one, it is ridiculously easy to get around the laws of any one > :> country. Getting around the laws of EVERY country on the net is a lot > :> harder, and should rightly be so. > : > :So if somebody in Argentina decides to harrass someone in England, how would > :what you're proposing solve that problem? > > If they weren't posting anonymously, there'd be things that could be done. > But if they're posting anonymously, how wouyld you know they were in > Argentina? You wouldn't. But if you'd jumped through all the hoops to hunt down the anonymous annoyance and the trail led to Argentina, then the spirit of non-cooperation between the Brits and the Argentines might well mean that the trail ends right there. Or take it a step further. Suppose the Argentine remailer cooperated, and told the authorities that the message in question was chained through a remailer in Germany. And so on... Politas' solution is conditioned on an ideal world where everyone cooperated with everyone else. What he cited as the protection an anonymous poster would have against an oppresive regime is also why his scheme would not work. Very little in the way of abuse goes on on the Internet that would be universally recognized as criminal by EVERY country. Not all countries deem copyright violations, posting kiddie porn, libel, blasphemy, sedition, posting birth control information, or even bomb-making recipes as actionable offenses worthy of governmental intervention to identify and prosecute the culprit. Take "libel", for example. Let's suppose a law were enacted today to make defaming the President of the United States a criminal offense. How much success do you think you'd have in forcing a remailer in Libya or Iraq to aid in hunting down such an offender? - --- Finger <comsec(a)nym.alias.net> for PGP public key (Key ID=19BE8B0D) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNJ1P1wbp0h8ZvosNAQFaRAf+NfkhWJpic1Ha6d7V5qmf5OmJ3GFTcTdw FFfaC+fIG2SD2I/lJ7Oe1zDengWLFCdr+N25TT5H0zUhjm22NUDc9A1JVH0J4Xes haSNeA8XhON2f2SF9XS8EQebfXyIAj0m7c8f2HeecRVZC+MBCR1uXqotL5l8J4bA 1WXG/GCIId9JLMC0oi5W26XHwefu1UP3uYd13Z1AFOVfi7lTFh15YOOTfwlRjgl2 Aion64yujcjq6z7voNuidaz3HQVQmgwmeZKGeYJ935HzpA0XTYu/xr9L5p+gbmE3 S33fzHwgljymm6joJzUK8x/u3rrChp5a6O7qL07U5ZmgotQv7I0YDw== =tkvg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Why I Support Microsoft
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Over the years I've sometimes joined in on the jokes about Microsoft and Bill Gates...the jokes about the Borg, assimilation, and the habits of Gates. And I've lately really enjoyed the "Saturday Night Live" skits involving Bill Gates interrupting the Pope to announce that Microsoft has merged with Christmas, and so on. As a longtime Macintosh user, and only occasional user of MS products, it's mostly of entertainment value to me to see what MS is doing. (Caveat: I used Microsoft Basic on Intel MDS systems (8080-based), circa 1977-78, bought a PC in the early 80s, bought "Microsoft Word" Version 1.00 when most people were buying Samna Word, Wordstar, and other such vanished products, and even bought the execrable, terrible, crufty, horrible "Windows 1.0" when it first came out, circa 1984. And for my Macintosh, I bought Microsoft Word 1.05 and used it for many years in various versions. I currently use no Microsoft products on a daily basis.) Anyway, the recent government actions against Microsoft are reprehensible to any person who values liberty. Microsoft is being punished for its success. The appearance of Ralph Nader, Jamie Love, and executives of Netscape (who are miffed that _their_ attempted monopoly is being threatened by MS!), in the (ironic) "Microsoft Bash," along with opportunistic actions by various states' attorney generals, and with judges imposing million dollar a day fines..... Well, it's all a familiar pattern. I hate to say it, but read parts of "Atlas Shrugged" to see this piling on, this "taking down the successful a few notches" behavior. Attila T. Hun is, for some reason, bashing MS a lot. I'll use one of his posts to make some specific points: At 10:15 AM -0700 12/21/97, Attila T. Hun wrote: >> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A federal judge Friday told Microsoft >> Corp. he easily uninstalled the company's Web browser >> without breaking Windows 95 and ordered company officials to >> explain why they could not do the same. "Windows 95 >> functioned flawlessly" with Internet Explorer uninstalled, >> U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson told Microsoft. >> > mistake #1: dont piss off a federal judge --let alone > try to show that he is ignorant. PC makers like Compaq, Dell, Gateway, etc., are in fact perfectly free to bundle Netscape Navigator (or whatever the Do Everything version is called) with their systems. Microsoft is then perfectly free, in a free society, to say "Fine, then don't put Windows on your machines." Right? Customers can then make their choices. Or can buy Windows in the nearest software store. The way it used to be done. Yielding to pressure from the court, MS is now allowing PC makers to also include Netscape Navigator. Well, none have yet elected to do so...quite probably because Netscape is _charging_ for this, and MS is not. (To Ralph Nader, and perhaps even to Attila, that MS is _giving_ away its browser, free for the download and free to the PC vendors, is itself a crime.) ... > this is my one big fear: the DOJ will accept a plea > bargain like they did last time and it will be back > to business as usual for M$ --and they will be back in > court within a year having gained even more horizontal > and vertical control of the entire communications > and information industries --and claiming again that > they are misunderstood --and complying with the order, > etc. Customers are voting with their pocketbooks. They like the MS offerings more than they like the competing offerings...of which there are still many. (Macintosh, Unix in several flavors (incl Linux), and loyal followings for older OSes. Sun and Oracle and others are pushing for Java-based systems to obsolete the MS products. This is a major struggle which analyses about Microsoft's "domination" seem to ignore.) > > there is only one solution to organizations like M$ > which are operated without ethics: treat them to the > pleasures of not only the antitrust laws but the > exquisite delights of RICO. I cannot understand how Attila can so enthusiastically support this. His "exquisite delights" even recalls Torquemada and the Inquistion. A suitable term for what is being to MS, in my view. > M$ is a cancer; it has fully metasticized and is gorging > itself at the banquet of the vanquished. Ralph Nader would probably be interested in hiring ATH as a speech writer. .... > anyway, just think where M$ would be with Royce today! > Gate$ and Ballmer might be down at the local MCC for a > few free 3 hots and a cot, all expenses paid, "enjoying" > a well earned vacation from screwing all of us. I take it that ATH means that because something like 20 or 30 million Americans chose to buy Windows 95 (and thus gain the benefits we Macintosh users have had for many years :-}) that this means "we" were screwed? > Other than the usual ills of a monopoly, what really > irks anyone with a modicum of intelligence is that Gate$ > intends to migrate the entire package for the benefit of > the couch potatoes; Gate$ intends to dictate not only > what we use to view his trash, but that only his trash > is splashed. Why not pick on Intel? Intel is, if anything, even more of a "monopoly" than MS is. While customers have some reasonable choices in OSes (Windows/NT, Unix, Linux, Macintosh, AmigaOS, Inferno, Java-based developments, etc.), the fact is that all of the surviving OSes are being ported to the Intel platform (pace recent announcements by Sun that Solaris will be on Merced at its rollout in 1999, and earlier announcements by H-P, DEC, and IBM along the same lines). But neither MS nor Intel are "monopolies." They are just the People's Choice. Which always tends to cluster...the big really do get bigger. For awhile, at least, until the paradigm shifts and the big can't adapt quickly enough. Of the 10 biggest chip makers in 1970, all are distant seconds to Intel, the world's largest producer of chips, in dollar amount. (And in total square meters of silicon output.) .... >> After the hearing Friday, Christine Varney, a former Federal >> Trade Commissioner now representing Netscape, was jubilant. >> "I think the judge has understood the seriousness of the >> issue," she said. >> > she had every reason to be jubilant --so far. even if > the judge did not fully understand the technological > bullshit M$ was trying to slide on by, the judge fully > understands that M$ was trying to blind pitch him --and > insulting him to boot. Of _course_ she's jubilant! Netscape wants its "rightfully-earned monopoly" back! Has anyone forgotten that in 1995 it was looking like Netscape would be on 95% of all desktops, Windows, Mac, and Unix, and that it was turning into the Big Bad Monopoly? Are memories really that short? Netscape has been using its legal manouvers to attempt to stop Microsoft from horning in on _its_ monopoly. (I hate using the term "monopoly," but if critics of MS are going to use it, hey, when in Rome....) >> Microsoft stock closed at $128.69, down $2.19 on NASDAQ, >> where it was among the most active issues. > yes, down almost 20 points since their fiasco with the > DOJ started. before it's over, I hope to see M$ listed > with the junk bonds and issues --in the penny stocks. > Yep, sort of the way Netscape stock went from its IPO price of around $25 (in today's shares) to $80 when it looked like Netscape Navigator and related products were going to be the Next Big Monopoly....and then plummeted down to the $30-40 range as it appeared this was not the way things were going to turn out.... Netscape stock is currently at $27 3/4, just about where it began trading in '95. Even so, Navigator remains popular on many platforms. Microsoft Explorer is by no means a monopoly. And MS announced a long time ago, in '95 if I recall correctly, that the Web was such a big deal (let us not forget that some were saying Gates had missed the boat on the Web and MS would falter) that the URL addressing scheme would be _built in_ to future versions of its OS so as to make Web browsing and file browsing identical, and to facillitate intranets. "One big file system." Like this or not, it makes a certain amount of sense. Ah, but now we face the spectacle of a judge or panel of Nader-pandering bureaucrats telling Microsoft what features it will be allowed to include in its operating system. Perhaps the graphics chip companies facing extinction as Intel puts massive graphics capabilities into new chips can sue on antitrust grounds and get a "special master" to dictate to Intel what features it may put into chips? (Certainly the long-departed Weitek might have survived a few more years had Ralph Nader turned his unsafe at any speed attention to the floating point processing market and gotten an injunction against Intel putting onboard floating point instructions into the 486.) I cannot understand how any Cypherpunk can be advocating interference in the market the way Attila and a few others are doing. Making jokes about Bill Gates is one thing, just harmless fun. But advocating the Men with Guns (TM) seize control of the products he offers to uncoerced customers is simply wrong. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Automatic Translations
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

bureau42 wrote: >Just out of curiosity I ran a paragraph of one of Bob H's wordy >pieces through a few translations and, son of a bitch! if it didn't become clearer! Now this is truly helpful advice to get what's being miscommunicated by deranged brute-forcers spit and shined and pinstripped like truetext masterblasters. If some dingdong's spew comes through translation unchanged then it is the plain vanilla-est, the most unshaded, unnuanced, unbiased, untrickery, unimaginative, and thus the most omnipotent of all possible upchuckery aimed to infect the globe with toenail jam passing as troot juice. If these lies (aka blackheart pus-drip) remain unchanged by translation and unmangled by retranslation through all spitbucket languages and all Earth's cheese-bowels bent on misconstruance and prejudicial warp to fit preconceptions of perfectly slit-minded right to disembowel and deny life and liberty to those of opposing views, then it is the word of You Know Who, and your way-behind clan better believe it, and copy it, and bray-pray in it and bet your bed-watering, unwavering Clone Constitution Bible Koran Hit Man Browser on it. Seattle-shrouded in this Kelvar-asbestos cloak, napalm those east of the Rockies (and west) who question the Macrosoft Word, PR sizzle those who mock it, and Jesus-crowbar the infidels who mess with mismarketing PICS to the world's DoJs and 1st Amend lingo freedom-futzing bill-mauling mud-doggies. Sez Iggy, plain and simple.

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