December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by 63716769＠online-now.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Intermittent SSZ downtime
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, SSZ is going to be offline at least twice over the next 36 hours or so. It should be down on longer than a couple of hours for some hardware upgrades in preperation for a full software upgrade. There are two additional outages planned next weekend. Please plan accordingly, we apologize for any inconvenience. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Speak the truth, but leave immediately after. | | | | Slovenian Proverb | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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Is Bill Clinton Obstructing Justice???
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is Bill Clinton Obstructing Justice in the Case of Charles Hayes? by J. Orlin Grabbe 1. Did President Bill Clinton meet with Kentucky District Judge Jennifer B. Coffman at the Watergate Hotel on May 21, 1997? Has Coffman suddenly become an important Presidential advisor? Was the meeting just another tête-à-tête similar to the one Clinton had with Paula Jones? Is Bill Clinton obstructing justice? 2. Is Judge Coffman in the meantime sitting on, and attempting to ignore, a slew of motions from Hayes' attorney Marvin Miller? Is Judge Coffman herself guilty of judicial misconduct? 3. Why did Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick Malloy recently asked to withdraw from the Chuck Hayes' case? Why did Judge Coffman refuse to allow him to withdraw? 4. Where has the alleged hit man Don Yarbrough disappeared to? Does his disappearance have anything to do with falsified information given to the FBI? Did the FBI previously say they had verified this information? 5. What perjury charges have been filed against FBI agent Stephen Brannan? 6. What perjury charges have been filed against FBI agent David Keller? Was or was not David Keller transferred to the Atlanta office of the FBI? 7. Has Lawrence Myers been impeached as a witness because he was diagnosed as having multiple personalities by the U.S. Army? 8. Are there any remaining witnesses against Charles Hayes? 9. What is the relationship between Judge Jennifer Coffman and Wendell Ford? 10. Was Jennifer Coffman under investigation for financial improprieties at the time she was appointed judge?

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Another prosecution/ruling re Thomases/Amateur Action
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

List members may be familiar with the prosecution of Robert Thomas, a Bay Area man who runs (ran?) a BBS entitled "Amateur Action", which provided, via modem and mail order, pornographic images to its customers. Robert Thomas was arrested in California, then prosecuted in and imprisoned by a federal district court in Tennessee based on Tennessee community standards for the material he made available from California; apparently that prosecution centered on one or more pictures involving sex between human(s) and animals. Subsequently, he was indicted by a federal grand jury in Utah for distribution of child pornography; he moved to dismiss that second prosecution on the grounds of double jeopardy and collateral estoppel. His motion was denied, and he subsequently plead guilty to a single count and was sentenced to 26 months' imprisonment. He appealed the denial of his motions to dismiss, and was unsuccessful; the Tenth Circuit ruled that the constitution's protection against double jeopardy and the doctrine of collateral estoppel were not applicable because the two prosecutions involved two different charges (obscenity in TN and child porn in UT) and different findings of fact. He also requested that his sentence be reduced to end at the time his sentence ends in for the TN prosecution, but his request was denied and the appeals court declined to modify the trial court's sentence. The text of the appellate court's ruling is at <http://www.ljx.com/cgi-bin/f_cat?prod/ljextra/data/external/1997/06/9706024 .c10>, I have mirrored it at <http://www.parrhesia.com/thomas.txt>. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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Test [List Operator Reply Only]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, This is a test. List operators only please reply. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Speak the truth, but leave immediately after. | | | | Slovenian Proverb | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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Tim C. Stalker
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > Soon we'll be able to have true "stalker's pages," with links to home > addresss and zipcode data bases. > > (And when I find some young nymphette in one of the chat groups, I'll be > able to click on her name and call up all the relevant information to allow > me to go visit her! We'll have a grand time...or at least I will.) > > --Jack D. Ripper I set up a "spoof" of the anonymizer page where it says "Click here to find out what we know about you." <paraphrased) and turned a friend on to the URL. When she clicked on the link, it provided all of the relevant computer info, as well as her home address, the color of her favorite nightie, and the fact that she sleeps with her bedroom window open. She was only fooled for a fraction of a second, but in that time she wet her drawers. I have no doubt that at some point in the future she will be able to click on a similar link which is *not* a spoof. ^ ! ! Flipper _ ^ ! ! ^ _ ( )

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Re: Steak Knife Decryption
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rabid Wombat wrote: >A "duress" PIN which cancels the account would be a good addition; >similar to the "duress" code on home security systems that appear to >disarm the alarm but send a silent alarm to the monitoring station. > >-r.w. Sure. Could also have marked bills coated with staining UV flourescent powder preloaded for just such an occasion. Optionally, depending on the location of the ATM, emergency lockdown features preventing the guy from bugging out. Easy enough to do....

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Stats on the lists
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone said a while ago that they were working on a list stats generator that makes a summary of what messages were on one feed and not another, how fast each feed ran, and so on. Is there any news on this? thanks

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Invitation To The Electronic Academy Of Law
by lawchek＠softcell.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Electronic Academy of Law INVITATION TO THE ELECTRONIC ACADEMY OF LAW //HTTP://www.Lawchek.com/academy.htm You are cordially invited to be inducted into the electronic Academy of Law (eAL), developed for lawyers who recognize the value of legal electronic media. In addition to your personal profile listing, free legal software and web site information is included in your membership. Further information can be found at our web site located at http://www.Lawchek.com/academy.htm

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Re: Steak Knife Decryption (Gun control comment)
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 6/7/97 Lucky Green wrote: >Had the victim carried a firearm, his chances of survival would have >improved dramatically. Statistical fact: armed private citizens caputre and/or kill more criminals in the US than all LEAs combined. Of course, armed criminals also kill more private citizens than all LEAs combined. >Gun control kills kids (and adults), "For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead to the future." --- Adolf Hitler

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Stats on the lists
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone said a while ago that they were working on a list stats generator that makes a summary of what messages were on one feed and not another, how fast each feed ran, and so on. Is there any news on this? thanks

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Re: [CRYPTO] ElGamal
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Warning: if you fuck Timmy Mayflower in the ass, a rabid tapeworm might bite your penis. ///// [ o o ] Timmy Mayflower \_=_/ _| |_ / \_/ \ _oOOO___OOOo_

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PGP 5.0 Beta
by Philip A. Mongelluzzo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This may be the wrong forum for this question, if so then ignore me. I have posted this question to the folks at PGP... In the process of creating a set of keys with PGP 5.0 Beta an Access Violation took place (this is NT). The public key was sent to keys.pgp.com but the key ring was not created (or was corrupted). How does one go about getting a key revoked with a lost private key? Thanks, Phil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM5qKS+S/ZBRgc6KnAQEXMQf/Y27LfZzhy9pePlemw5fteRox/ZfR7Eoj pcdBkJiFYgY+RXOqzmQAQFHfiA4pnGroYAokA3CjMmqIuWUskTl07sIZkRb3Jdf5 jJ6caoEXEwusVi4koViD1wTvjIb0/csh2ORqo9uZi861lwWRsPKfjEo1x5bTLtRQ 3MioVndws7cJVDpw/D0f3LVdomZNs0GLzhMPz5/FrmbWw0E+OdLV7lcNRWpo+y7E qGyciXbItpxpLIxV6r1cQgYVqKYwTQNZUZbWcmaIJNSpoYdG7F9BIQ/maFpKFR+2 ELsPdg9DfJYX7h/04O5HkO90cah2fjjyl036F+B0GHyT0t2L1Z+bKQ== =wJ4+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [CONTROVERSIAL]: A Defense of Terrorism
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <Pine.LNX.3.91.970607230450.11734A-100000(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk>, on 06/07/97 at 11:11 PM, Paul Bradley <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> said: >I live in mainland England. NI, although still violent, is now not the >only place bombed by the IRA, until a few years ago they mainly attacked >targets in NI, they now bomb all over the country. Well I can only see this as a good thing. :) It is the people of England that support that illegal occupation of Irish soil by Brittish troops. It is only right that they should have to suffer the consequences. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5qhjY9Co1n+aLhhAQF2agQAh/6P7KFgZSmeHD1hgT0rHjWOfWArXe8g UQMTolwI9CzRL3V4HLpd7yBJQ5VwrtcZr4nrETmONnLSwDqf23b0CxIr3nV7OlUv FVkdz71Xz2c59MUjMXob4XTXEjtfe8/WRT3gajEAlrDQQF06lQEgCTjEtiBArAB4 Wfu/DCX18OI= =HmfP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Responses to "Spam costs and questions" (long)
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <Pine.GSO.3.95.970608053415.20770A-100000(a)well.com>, on 06/08/97 at 07:36 AM, Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> said: >I don't think commercial speech should be treated as second-class speech. >But my position is hardly surprising. Well I think that there are some that would confuse the issue between 1st Amendment free speech and the issues surrounding fraud. Especially those in government who write the laws that regulate commercial speech. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5qsdY9Co1n+aLhhAQHXDQP/XXKYn5xkMENOzSe4/stMvo4TwSYgJvUm 7Z7j4Zb+lEj6+eag923IGI50q42D+uBrjEDeepvTv09GDxfyAWLjqdx9uwW56KOe Fo6vvyQ5Rx0rOGtLJs7Sy+XqWrzpHOZdA5Gj1KRdt8shmMuXocKT7/Fo8Czjv36J LqcbJ4BZZHc= =6Yqy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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show me the money
by show.me.the.money＠denmark.it.earthlink.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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CFP: 1998 Symposium on Network and Distributed System Security
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:05:43 -0700 From: bishop(a)cs.ucdavis.edu (Matt Bishop) To: ipsec(a)ans.net Subject: CFP: 1998 Symposium on Network and Distributed System Security Sender: owner-ipsec(a)ex.tis.com Precedence: bulk CALL FOR PAPERS The Internet Society Symposium on Network and Distributed System Security Where: San Diego, California When: March 1998 GOAL: The symposium will foster information exchange between hardware and software developers of network and distributed system security services. The intended audience is those who are interested in the practical aspects of network and distributed system security, focusing on actual system design and implementation, rather than theory. Encouraging and enabling the Internet community to apply, deploy, and advance the state of available security technology is the major focus of symposium. Symposium proceedings will be published by the Internet Society. Topics for the symposium include, but are not limited to, the following: * Architectures for large-scale, heterogeneous distributed systems * Security in malleable systems: mobile code, mobile agents, dynamic policy updates, etc. * Special problems: e.g. interplay between security goals and other goals -- efficiency, reliability, interoperability, resource sharing, and cost. * Integrating security services with system and application security facilities and with application protocols, including message handling, file transport, remote file access, directories, time synchronization, data base management, routing, voice and video multicast, network management, boot services, and mobile computing. * Fundamental services: authentication, integrity, confidentiality, authorization, non-repudiation, and availability. * Supporting mechanisms and APIs: key management and certification infrastructures, audit, and intrusion detection. * Telecommunications security, especially for emerging technologies -- very large systems like the Internet, high-speed systems like the gigabit testbeds, wireless systems, and personal communication systems. * Controls: firewalls, packet filters, application gateways * Object security and security objects * Network information resources and tools such as World Wide Web (WWW), Gopher, Archie, and WAIS. * Electronic commerce: payment services, fee-for-access, EDI, notary; endorsement, licensing, bonding, and other forms of assurance; intellectual property protections GENERAL CHAIR: David Balenson, Trusted Information Systems PROGRAM CHAIRS: Matt Bishop, University of California at Davis Steve Kent, BBN PROGRAM COMMITTEE: Steve Bellovin, AT&T Labs -- Research Doug Engert, Argonne National Laboratories Warwick Ford, VeriSign Li Gong, JavaSoft Rich Graveman, Bellcore Ari Juels, RSA Laboratories Tom Longstaff, CERT/CC Doug Maughan, National Security Agency Dan Nessett, 3Com Corporation Rich Parker, NATO Michael Roe, Cambridge University Rob Rosenthal, DARPA Wolfgang Schneider, GMD Darmstadt Christoph Schuba, Purdue University Win Treese, Open Market, Inc. Jonathan Trostle, Novell Gene Tsudik, USC/Information Sciences Institute Steve Welke, Institute for Defense Analyses LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS CHAIR: Thomas Hutton, San Diego Supercomputer Center PUBLICATIONS CHAIR: Steve Welke, Institute for Defense Analyses LOGISTICS CHAIR: Torryn Brazell, Internet Society SUBMISSIONS: The committee invites technical papers and panel proposals, for topics of technical and general interest. Technical papers should be 10-20 pages in length. Panel proposals should be two pages and should describe the topic, identify the panel chair, explain the format of the panel, and list three to four potential panelists. Technical papers will appear in the proceedings. A description of each panel will appear in the proceedings, and may at the discretion of the panel chair, include written position statements from each panelist. Each submission must contain a separate title page with the type of submission (paper or panel), the title or topic, the names of the author(s), organizational affiliation(s), telephone and FAX numbers, postal addresses, Internet electronic mail addresses, and must list a single point of contact if more than one author. The names of authors, affiliations, and other identifying information should appear only on the separate title page. Submissions must be received by 1 August 1997, and should be made via electronic mail in either PostScript or ASCII format. If the committee is unable to print a PostScript submission, it will be returned and hardcopy requested. Therefore, PostScript submissions should arrive well before 1 August. If electronic submission is difficult, submissions should be sent via postal mail. All submissions and program related correspondence (only) should be directed to the program chair: Matt Bishop, Department of Computer Science, University of California at Davis, Davis CA 95616-8562, Email: sndss98-submissions(a)cs.ucdavis.edu. Phone: +1 (916) 752-8060, FAX: +1 (916) 752-4767, Dates, final call for papers, advance program, and registration information will be available at the URL: http://www.isoc.org/conferences/ndss98. Each submission will be acknowledged by e-mail. If acknowledgment is not received within seven days, please contact the program chair as in- dicated above. Authors and panelists will be notified of acceptance by 1 October 1997. Instructions for preparing camera-ready copy for the proceedings will be sent at that time. The camera-ready copy must be received by 1 November 1997. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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ethanol, which is a fuel made from a mixture of corn and your tax dollars
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

June 6, 1997 Potomac Watch Guess Who's Trying To Save Corporate Welfare By PAUL A. GIGOT Let us now break this column's recent pattern and praise a Republican. He's Texan Bill Archer, who is taking a run at the federal government's worst case of corporate welfare. He has just one problem: Other Republicans, notably the speaker of the House. Mr. Archer wouldn't have sat in the minority for 24 years if he wasn't willing to tilt at windmills. But now that he's running the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, his tilting matters. So this year he's aiming at ethanol, which is a fuel made from a mixture of corn and your tax dollars. He has enough votes to get the bill through his committee, and it could pass Congress if the GOP leadership gave it a push. The entire corporate welfare debate is a good test of whether the GOP's ultimate loyalties lie with business, or with taxpayers. The ethanol savings would be only a couple of billion dollars, but in today's Washington we have to be grateful for small favors. By shutting down this corn sluice, Republicans would show they can ox their own political gore. They'd also create more space for tax cuts that'd help more Americans, such as for capital gains. ? The political timing won't get any better. When Mr. Archer first tried this in late 1995, Bob Dole, self-described Senator Ethanol, hadn't yet retired. The presidential caucuses in Iowa, ethanol's Elysian fields, were three months away, not three years as they are now. Archer-Daniels-Midland Co., the political benefactor and ethanol beneficiary, hadn't yet pleaded guilty to price-fixing charges. Farm-state Republicans had more leverage over their leadership in 1995 because the GOP was trying to pass a budget with only GOP votes. Now in bipartisan mode, Republican leaders can pick up some Democrats to keep a majority. All of which puts the pressure squarely on Newt Gingrich, who has to decide if he again wants to rescue the ethanol subsidy at the House Rules Committee pass. That's what he did in 1995 after consulting Senator Ethanol. The speaker explained to some of us then that killing the subsidy was too politically risky while Republicans were trying to change so much of the rest of the government. But Republicans are now trying to change very little of the government, and Mr. Gingrich is still resisting. "I do not believe it is possible in this Congress to eliminate the ethanol tax break," the speaker told reporters this week. That's analysis masking incumbent protection. The speaker is fronting for members who don't want to cast any difficult votes this Congress. Those members include several ferocious Republican opponents of the welfare state, nonfarm version: Nebraska's Jon Christensen, erstwhile revolutionary; John Boehner, from the farm state of greater Cincinnati; Henry Hyde of the poverty-stricken Chicago suburbs; Michigan's Fred Upton, the renowned budget balancer; and Helen Chenoweth, Idaho's scourge of Big Government. Perhaps they were inspired to sign a letter embracing ethanol subsidies by another co-signer, the greatest class warrior in all of Congress, Michigan Democrat and man of the people, David Bonior. He's now earned the title of Congressman Ethanol. This crowd must have missed a recent General Accounting Office report, which found that the ethanol subsidy justifies none of its political boasts. It doesn't help air quality much, hardly reduces U.S. dependence on foreign oil and shovels much of its benefit to big ethanol producers. "Sixty-five percent of capacity is owned by the three largest firms, and the largest firm, Archer-Daniels-Midland, owns 50% of capacity," says the GAO study. Some things dubbed "corporate welfare" are arguably useful, but this isn't one of them. What's most notable, and depressing, about all of this is that it symbolizes the GOP Congress's change from reformers to incumbents. A majority Democratic coalition is naturally held together by its power to dispense government favors. But Republicans won their majority in 1994 running on ideas and reform. The danger for Republicans is that they are slowly evolving into a majority whose main rationale is keeping power. "That's what I fear more than anything," says Indiana Rep. David McIntosh, who voted against the budget deal for that reason. This may let Republicans keep their majority in 1998, but it hardly offers much reason to increase it, or much of an agenda. And sooner or later even House Democrats will figure out they can win back the House if they depict Republicans as the party of status quo government. All politicians claim to hate corporate welfare, but they vote for it when only the beneficiaries are watching. They could learn from T.J. Rodgers, the Silicon Valley entrepreneur, who has rounded up 61 fellow high-tech CEOs to say they support cutting corporate subsidies, even if it means giving up their own federal grants. Republicans are supposed to believe this too, as Bill Archer, to his credit, is reminding them. --from the Wall Street Urinal, used without permission, all rights ignored.

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$$$$$opportunity
by $$$$$opportunity＠denmark.it.earthlink.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear friend, June 1997. Mark your calender. This is no joke and I'm not here to waste your time, so pay close attention. I didn't originate this, but I sent it. The plan is SIMPLE, and actually WORKS, for one reason only: "32 cents" By this I mean a lack thereof...no letters to mail. Only a few strokes of your keyboard and a few thousand emails moving at the speed of light, basically for FREE, other than your internet access fee. It's started with VERY MINIMAL outlay ($20) and the income return will have you laughing in DISBELIEF all the way to the bank. Do it now or hear about it later...read on please, and thank me when you make your first $1000.... Talk to you in eight weeks... <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> You are about to make at least $50,000 - In less than 90 days. Read the enclosed program...THEN READ IT AGAIN!... <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends, and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. I truly believe it was wrong for me to be in debt like this. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happened in my life and I am writing to share my experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER....FINANCIALLY!!! In mid-December, I received this program via email. Six months prior to receiving this program I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they worked or not. One claimed I'd make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it. But like I was saying, in December of '95 I received this program. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY-MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further in debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. After determining that the program is LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT". Initially I sent out 10,000 emails. It only cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about email is that I didn't need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me! A good program to help do this is Ready Aim Fire, an email extracting and mass mail program at: http://microsyssolutions.com/ In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13th, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15 TO 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was done. By January 30th, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 19th, of my emailing of 10,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER! Remember, it wont work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It doesn't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee, 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100 or more orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $50,000 or more in 20 to 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS !!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I'm sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and you are in financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Christopher Erickson PS Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000) look like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! "I THREW IT AWAY" "I had received this program before. I threw it away, but later wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get a copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed another copy of the program. Eleven months passed, then it came. I DIDN'T throw this one away. I made $41,000 on the first try." Dawn W., Evansville, IN "NO FREE LUNCH" "My late father always told me, 'remember, Alan, there is no free lunch in life. You get out of life what you put into it.' Through trial and error and a somewhat slow frustrating start, I finally figured it out. The program works very well, I just had to find the right target group of people to email it to. So far this year, I have made over $63,000 using this program. I know my dad would have been very proud of me." Alan B., Philadelphia, PA A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM By the time you have read the enclosed information and looked over the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate...because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of your money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices which market this and several other programs here in the US and overseas. By the Spring, we wish to market the 'Internet' by a partnership with AMERICA ON LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to email a copy of this exciting program to everyone that you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000...and your name will be on every one of them!. Remember though, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! Definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$$ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a .5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a .5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those .5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The .5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The .5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 five dollar bills for you. CASH!!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5000 +$50,000 for a total of $55,550!!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONLY 2,000. Believe me, many people will do that and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and email is FREE!!! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing and purchasing email lists. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come in contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get the mail. If you believe that someday you'll get that big break that you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions, and your dream will come true. This multi-level email order marketing program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. Email is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using email. Get your piece of this action!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and The Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold throughout Multi-level Methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the US, 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. INSTRUCTIONS We at Erris Mail Order Marketing Business, have a method of raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20 to 90 days. Before you say "Bull", please read the program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what we do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four 4 REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four 4 names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the report requested to the person you are ordering from. You will need ALL FOUR (4) REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with yours, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 to REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the required changes in the NAME list, save it as a text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever email program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk emailing and acquiring email lists. Step (4) Email a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. that's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, email to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get email addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in email mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35.00. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four 4 REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER ________________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "SURVIVAL TIPS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: MARK BLACK 718 FOREST AVE LARCHMONT, NY 10538 ________________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "HOW AND WHERE TO ADVERTISE" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: MARYANNE BRUNO 411 WESTCHESTER AVE APT 2K PORTCHESTER, NY 10573 ________________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "SECRETS TO SUCCESSFULLY STARTING YOUR OWN BUSINESS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: CARMELA BRUNO 30-21 70 STREET JACKSON HEIGHTS, NY 11370 ________________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "BIG DOLLARS IN YOUR MAILBOX" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: MIKE BLACK 411 WESTCHESTER AVE APT 2K PORTCHESTER, NY 10573 _______________________________________________________ CONCLUSION I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that costs me pennies to produce and email. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four 4 FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost off about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luck! "IT WAS TRULY AMAZING" "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this program. But conservative as I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was no way that I could not get enough orders to at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever surprised when I found my medium sized post office box crammed with orders! I will make more money this year than any ten years of my life before." Mary Riceland, Lansing, MI TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four 4 REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new company. You can use your own name if you desire. 2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. You must remember, your name and address go next to REPORT #1 and the others all move down one, with the fourth one being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain as many email addresses as possible to send until you receive the information on mailing list companies in REPORT #3. 5. Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you send, and the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy the four 4 REPORTS so you are able to sent them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! 8. Make certain the letter and reports are neat and legible. YOUR GUARANTEE The check point which GUARANTEES your success is simply this: you must receive 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1. This is a must!!! If you don't within two weeks, email out more programs until you do. Then a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2, if you don't, send out more programs until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, (take a deep breath) you can sit back and relax, because YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST $50,000. Mathematically it is a proven guarantee. Of those who have participated in the program and reached the above GUARANTEES-ALL have reached their $50,000 goal. Also, remember, every time your name is moved down the list you are in front of a different REPORT, so you can keep track of your program by knowing what people are ordering from you. IT'S THAT EASY, REALLY, IT IS!!! REMEMBER: "HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED NOT HOPE FOR ANYTHING." "INVEST A LITTLE TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY NOW OR SEARCH FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE."

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Re(2): With friends like these...
by Theodor.SCHLICKMANN＠bxl.dg13.cec.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We have to live with the fact that industry has a janus head. On one hand - and here we should follow their example - they are reluctant to allow somebody else to keep their keys in trust. On the other hand - in contradiction to the previous - they invest in development of key escrow systems including key management protocols which allow third parties having uncontrolled access to keys. Theodor Schlickmann

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MS Access 97 deprotection?
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An acquaintence of mine who runs a small consulting business here in Massachusetts called last night. He seems to be suffering from one of the classic aftereffects of a having 'disgruntled, about-to-be-ex-employee'; one of the database files on which his business relies has been encrypted within Microsoft Access 97, and he needs to recover the data. A quick look around at the obvious sites shows no generic de-protector, as there are for MS Word and many other systems. Anyone have any clue how he might get his data back? (I've already told him to consider the lawyer-based route). Send me mail - I'll pass it on to him. thanks, Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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PGP 5.0 doesn't tell me Which key a message is signed by! [SEVERITY 1]
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Yow! I'm using PGP 5.0, with the PGPtray and the Eudora Plugin, in a version that appears to be b14c3 for Win95. When I receive a signed email message, or check with PGPtray, it tells me the message is from "User <email(a)foo.com>", but doesn't tell me it's from KeyID 0x12345678 or the fingerprint of the key or anything even vaguely difficult to fake. Thus, I've signed this message as Phil Zimmermann FAKE <prz(a)acm.org>, and if I'd left out the FAKE it would be difficult to tell it from a real Phil key. The GUI happily gives me a message box saying "Good signature from Phil Zimmermann FAKE <prz(a)acm.org>". We've been discussing 0xDEADBEEF attacks on Cypherpunks and Coderpunks, but this appears to be far worse - I hope it's been fixed for the production version? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM5u51kEvGqT1DvpRAQHnwgIAzF7uBmgsk9+c4IZObsnXBJBHuCFEUsMr 3V64azY6Wp156SFgDPGODQvQxzDiQCb96hUz2RK2j7DxfekOZ7rzjw== =u93K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list or news, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Thoughtcrime (Re: My War) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 18:35:34 -0700 > From: Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: Thoughtcrime (Re: My War) > Let us assume that it is unethical to force children to participate in the > production of child pornography. (For the benefit of Kent and the more > ignorant people on this list, I will state that I firmly believe this to be > true, despite the fact that doing so should be irrelevant for the argument.) > Furthermore, let us assume that there are a number of individuals who enjoy > looking at hard core child pornography. > The question then is: does going after the distributors provide a benefit > to the children being (potentially) used for such pictures? > The answer is clearly no. Assuming, tacitly of course, that the supply of distributors is unlimited. If the resource is limited, as it actualy is, by getting the distribution node you in effect cut many people off. Thus forcing either total denial or else direct intervention, thus raising the chance of getting caught because more persons would be involved than would normaly be the case. This in effect clearly indicates a benefit to going after the distributors. This argument can be extended to the film-maker as well. Now some will say that it doesn't matter, somebody else will always pop up. The problem with this is that we have a limited population and there are only a statistical percentage going to be interested in the activity. This implies that there is some set of persons who will not participate. The trick is to get the non-participants to be the larger of the two. > By limiting the distribution of an individual > picture, you increase the total number of pictures required to satisfy > market demand. That means more children will be required to meet demand. By extension then full and complete public distribution would minimize it completely. So, you are seriously stating that we should put such pictures on the daily television, say during childrens hour? Now if we follow this further we are left with the image of our government hiring children to pose for said images because the supply of 'actual' images had diminished. That is truly a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Plus the sicko's get free, danger free, thrills at the public expence. Wooo, just what I want my tax dollars spent on. We are clearly dealing with a cusp-shaped function here. The implication being that some form of regulation is beneficial if we want to actualy reduce child abuse. > Thus, by going after the distributors, Se7en causes more children to be > violated by child pornographers. Or just possibly making the supply even more scarce because fewer and fewer are willing to take the chance of making a few bucks. > The only question that remains is: how can he live with this? > > Logic != base emotions, Ahmen brother! Otherwise, feldercarb. _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Moderation in all things, including moderation. | | | | -I wish I could remember- | | | | Jim Choate ravage(a)ssz.com | | The Armadillo Group www.ssz.com | | Austin, Texas, USA 512-451-7087 | |_______________________________________________________________________|

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Re: FCPUNX:McVeigh
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:42 PM 6/4/97 -0400, Hallam-Baker wrote: > Bell's Murder Politics scheme was a censorship scheme. Surely people would be more inclined to kill politicians for what they do, rather than what they say. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Julf ordered to reveal anon IDs
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Julf Johan Helsingius (Julf) has been ordered to release the identity of the poster of one of the Scamizdat series of confidential materials. "The Court of Appeals of Helsinki (Helsingin hovioikeus) has upheld the decision of the local court of Helsinki, in which Johan 'Julf' Helsingius was ordered to reveal the user id of the person who used the anon.penet.fi server to repost parts of Scamizdat, a collection of secret Scientology scriptures. "In its decision dated 4th of June 1997, the Court of Appeals orders Helsingius to reveal the names in 30 days after the decision becomes final. If he doesn't try to appeal the decision it will mean that he has to reveal the user id within three months. He might appeal the decision to the Supreme Court within 60 days, in which case the whole thing will take longer, regardless of whether the Supreme Court chooses to consider the case or not. "The following ID's were used to send material through anon.penet.fi: an498608(a)anon.penet.fi, an545430(a)anon.penet.fi "The material was a repost of Scamizdat #11, in several parts. The original repost was done on 15.2.1996, and partly repeated 12.3.1996." Message-ID: <5n7g0v$h75(a)reimari.uwasa.fi>

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